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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, alright, alright, Jets fans, I commend you. I commend you.
That's right, I do. I commend you, I really do.
If you're still here hanging out, I commend you. I
you know, like, what do we do? What do we

(00:47):
do with these guys, Jets fans? You'd love to you know,
I just wish we had some semblance of control, some
something input, not even control input. If something we said
as a collective could whittle its way up into the

(01:09):
boss's year holes, it would be good for me. Well,
we don't get that, Dewey. So we're all in this together.
Welcome to the show, everybody, Episode one hundred and eighty
seven agreed be to jests Pod. I am glad you're here. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
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We'd like to call it. Squeeze in the milk dung.
Squeeze those milk dumbs span the life one and that
makes me happy. It makes my day, as they say,
and look, man, Jets fans, it is tough. Is a

(02:17):
tough gig, you know. Let's put our feet up for
a second. Relax, bring in the Ottoman, kick up the recliner. Okay,
if you're driving right now, Hello to you audio folks, Hello, hello, Hello.
You don't put your feet up if that's you, but
everybody else put our feet up for a second. Let's
say our figurative feet and let's have let's take a

(02:40):
second back this up last year, last two so think
about this. Okay, all right, but three years all right,
So we draft a young kid number two overall. We
let's we let one go, Sam Donold number three overall
pick not working out. We had hopes and dreams. They

(03:01):
didn't support him at all. We get Zach Wilson and
the number with the number two pick we don't really
do it. What good job with him? And we go out.
We have two shitty years. We were seven and three
and still didn't make the playoffs, that kind of stuff,
very disappointing, went on a real run at the end
of the year, just couldn't seem to win a game.

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And then we go and we make a trade for
Aaron Rodgers. Oh my god, the hoopla. The NFL responds,
giving us all kinds of nighttime, prime time spots. We
get four plays after he runs into the stadium with
the American flag, O lily, don't know, don't know, right,

(03:45):
we're doing the whole thing. Four plays we get that year,
and we got to watch Zaki Pooh and the whole
thing again. And then we get down to Tim Boyle
and Trevor Simeon all this kind of stuff. So then
we get Aaron Rogers for real, and we get five
wins and it's crazy. Could we trade for Devonte Adams?

(04:07):
We fire Robert SoloMid season Oh boh, what's crazy? And
I thought, like so many of you, that this is
the deepest, darkest depths that the Jets could possibly take
us to to raise the expectations so high and to
dash us on the rocks. I really, I mean, it

(04:29):
took so much out of me that, you know, like
in the off months, we're still kind of hanging around
looking at mocks and we're doing stuff. Still. I did
not I couldn't do it this year. I just couldn't
do it. I had to take a real break from
this friggin team. I thought it was I'm like, I'm

(04:49):
telling you, I thought there's no way. It took so
much out of me. It was worse than one in fifteen,
you know, worse because of the hope, the expectations. And
then we fire our guys. We hire a new coach,
and the first thing he does he gets rid of

(05:09):
Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams and C. J. Mosley and
Solomon Thomas and you know, then the kin Laws and
Reddick's of the world and all that kind of stuff.
Tyron Smith whoever that was, and he makes some climp
Now the thing is, he's boasting and all that, but

(05:32):
you know, he's Aaron Glenn, he's a former Jet great.
I remember watching the draft that we drafted him. I
was very excited. And then when Parcells came here, one
of the first things he said, like Parcells extended Aaron
Glenn that first year, I think, and he said, if
you have Champ paraphrasing hero. But Bill pars Sells said,

(05:53):
if your goal is getting to the championship, you need.
You gotta players like Aaron Glenn around. You need you
need this guy. If you're gout, if your hope is
to actually do something, win to win the ring, you
need you don't let players like Aaron Glen go right.
So loved Aaron Glenn, love him so the fact that

(06:17):
it's him. He comes back and he's like he's getting
rid of people and all this stuff, and he's making
boasts and claims. You know it's gonna be rough, but
it's Aaron Glenn, and you got some hope. Okay, we're
gonna claw and scratch and kick and fight, but it's
gonna be a losing season. But it's okay. We'll win some,
we lose some. And let me tell you something again,

(06:40):
thought the depths were the lowest we could go. The
expectations were low this year for me, and let me dude,
we are zero and seven and getting worse. It. I
don't want I don't know if I'll say it it's

(07:01):
worse than the previous year with Aaron Rodgers and all.
I don't know if it's worse yet, but it is
unique and it's a different like somewhere, there's a different
compartment in my emotional heart box, somewhere that they found
another place for us to go in the in the pain,

(07:27):
in the amusement park of pain. You think there's you've
ridden every roller coaster, you've seen, every show, you've eaten
at every little kiosk, you know, you pet in every bathroom,
and then you're about to like walk out, and you're like, no, no, no,
there's a whole section like what weed, I gotta go,

(07:48):
I'm ready, I'm done with this fucking amusement park. And
it's no, there's a whole other part. There's more rides,
more roller coasters, more, and it's like, oh, but I'm
so tired. They don't care. I don't know what the
hell's going on. And the craziest part about it for

(08:09):
a fan like myself is that I support Erin Glenn.
I didn't want him, I love him. I didn't want
to hire this guy. I didn't want to hire not
because I didn't want Aaron Glenn. You know this. I
didn't want to hire a fucking defensive rookie and couple
him with another rookie GM because we keep doing it.

(08:38):
But it was Aaron Glenn, so it's okay, okay, if
it's gonna be that, it's like they found another way
to justify it. And what's making this so painful. It's
not the fact that we're owing seven that sucks. It's
a whole thing that's got enough momentum to suck all
on its own. What makes it worse is that Aaron Glenn,

(09:04):
to me, looks truly lost, like lost in Stubbornville, you
know what I mean. Like when you go out on
a limb and you say some wacky stuff or you
make a bold claim and then it's clear that you're wrong.

(09:29):
You have a choice. You either go, holy shit, I
was wrong, or you double down. And what I'm seeing
is some double down and going on. Now. The good
news is one of those things. The quarterback situation. He

(09:49):
did double down, but he went back on it today.
He didn't really talk and commit, but actions speak louder
than words, and we saw a benching of our starting quarterback,
the free age of the crown jewel of the free
agent group this year justin fields. We saw him benched.

(10:12):
We saw it, we saw it, which is crazy. Now
what's even crazier yet, is that the guy coming in
we bench our starting quarterback. And the guy coming in
now is his second year with the team. Obviously first
year with this group because he's with the the salah

(10:33):
Olbricht Aaron Rodgers connection last year. But he's here with
us now. He's been here for a minute. So he
was a Giant before that a couple of years, and
he's been a Jet for now his second year. And
he's an old player. He was with the Patriots and
Bills and shit, so he's been in the AFC. So
we know this guy. He's been around a long time.
We're not have any illusions about who he is or anything.

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But he comes in and he throws two interceptions and
underthrows a wide open Alan Lazard in the end zone
on a crazy, well constructed flea flickeresque play. Well designed
play by Tanner engstrand executed well by the team. It works.

(11:20):
Alan Lazard is wide open and he underthrows him. Alan
Lazard has to stop and come back to the ball.
That's how bad it was not just he had to
slow down, he had to stop and come back to
it in order to have a chance, and then he
fucking drops it like terrible. So the quarterback we bent

(11:42):
our starting quarterback. The quarterback coming in throws two interceptions
and underthrows a touchdown. But he still looked remarkably better
than Justin Fields. Make it make sense? How does it work?

(12:02):
The math? Ain't mathon Justin Fields? When he left, had
six quarters in the last six quarters of football, had
a net offensive output in the passing game, a net
of fifteen yards in six quarters. Plus we found out

(12:26):
that his knees were not so good, so he wasn't
running either. The thing that makes Justin Fields even mildly
attractive as a quarterback prospect to maybe this is the
guy he can catch lightning in the bottle blah blah
blah is the fact that he's a true dual threat.
Like he's got a crazy strong arm, not very accurate,

(12:47):
doesn't have the process. He's a one read guy, doesn't
have the processing to like, you know, scan the field
and do all that. So what makes him attractive That
he's got a strong arm, but he can run and
he's a legit threat, like he's on par with the
top guys in that respect, like he's not Lamar Jackson.

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But as far as his running, he's in that same
conversation with his abilities with his feet. Not as good
as Lamar Jackson, of course, but so we find out
that he hasn't been able to do that for the
past couple weeks since the Miami game. So in sixth

(13:29):
and last full game and then until he was benched
in this game, he had a net passing game output
of fifteen yards net fifteen yards six quarters. So he's
benched and Tyrod Taylor comes in, throws two picks and

(13:54):
underthrows a touchdown, and then there was more bad stuff
and he was still there's no debate that he was
significantly better than justin fields and the offense looked different
and people were catching passes and running around and it
was a whole different offense. Two picks and one half.

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So now Tyrod Taylor in his game and a half
has three picks, including a pick six, and he's still better.
H Can you take it? Like seriously, guys? And then
you listen to Aaron Glenn and he has no answers,

(14:45):
He's got no answers, Man, So I don't know, so
welcome to the show. You know, green Beans Jets Pod
episode one hundred and eighty seven. Right, it's my long form.
It's the thing we do each week for the past

(15:05):
number of years, one hundred and eighty seven episodes worth
of a long form podcast where I'm alone right now, Right,
you guys aren't here when we do live streams. I'm alone.
I'm in a room by myself unless teen Bean's here
or my little one, my daughter comes in. She decided
this year to commit and be a Jets fan. I

(15:26):
don't know, man, I don't know. She's seen it all,
she's been around the whole time. She sees But she said,
you know what I want in? I said, okay, she's fourteen.
What am I gonna do? Right? But I'm alone here,
and this is the show where I don't like you
live stream I record short videos and stuff sometimes, but
mainly it's live streams. We do the Tuesday night show.

(15:50):
We do another one in the week somewhere. We do
the live streaming for the game. Right each week, Frankie
from Flatbush Jet's Chaos there with me. Sometimes dom Seal
jump in. Sometimes we have some other guys. Matt O'Leary
likes to jump on at at halftime, so it's always
great to have him. Ryan's got the two kids, he's toast,

(16:11):
he's fried. He doesn't come in on at a half time anymore.
But you know, this show is the podcast long form
where I try to think of a like a creative
angle to look at this thing, right, because you know,

(16:31):
I try really hard to be among the positive Jets fans.
Now I'm certainly no, I'm not a homer like I
definitely have lots of gripes for the Jets. You know,
I'm not beyond being angry, but I consciously try to
be constructive, to be positive. And the reason is I

(16:58):
don't want to be miserable like there dude. For many years, man,
I can tell you stories about leaving the Jets games
and looking for a fight, like I was so upset,
so so angry, like no outlet. We didn't have Twitter,

(17:24):
we didn't have the fuck you man. You didn't you
weren't able to do that, you know, go online and
argue with people you know about about whatever and call
them names. You weren't able to We just walked down
the spirals at Giants Stadium. We're down that that escalator

(17:46):
and you walk through the parking lot and there were
the Broncos fans, the Bills fans, the Dolphins fans, the
fucking Niner fan whoever, and they were like yeah, And
I was consciously looking for a time I wanted to fight.
And then the rest of the week I was miserable
till like Wednesday, miserable. My wife told me, we were

(18:10):
just talking this morning. She said, no, I know, I've
noticed the last couple of years, like the game doesn't
affect you in the same way. She's like, I knew
if the Jets lost. It was like, all right, well,
don't talk to him the rest of the day because
I was liable to get into take something personally. I
was looking for a fight with my wife, with my kid,

(18:34):
with anybody. So I've tried. Guys, it takes effort to
not be, you know, to succumb to be at it's
it's the the Jets to be at their discretion to

(18:54):
like they control my emotions. But man, oh man, at
what point, guys, at what point listen to my voice?
I've been fucking yelling and screaming all day. At what
point do you reach the end of your tether with it.

(19:19):
It's like at some point, like I'm running at a juice.
It's been forty three years. The Jets have made the
playoffs eleven times in the forty three years that I've
been watching. And how many of those were one and dones? Right?
How many times did I excitedly watch my Jets at

(19:41):
eight and eight or nine and seven squeak into the
playoffs and just get shellacked and that's it's done, you know?
I mean how many times one? You know, we get
into the wild card and it's like, it's great, I'd
rather be in than not be and you get that
extra week of football and the whole thing. But it's it,
it's done. So like, you know, out of that eleven

(20:03):
I would say at least half of those are one dons.
You got the four AFC championship games, so that you know, eleven, ten, nine, eight,
so that's seven seven left. You got the Cleveland the
eighty six, so you know that we made it to
the semifinals. You got the Doug Brian double, you know,

(20:26):
doinky game where he missed two field goals. So now
we're down five, right, Like, so five times I mean,
I remember the Bruce Coslet Raoula le Gray year where
he kicked it. We were eight and eight. I was
at my buddy's wedding. I fucking watched the Jets game

(20:47):
the whole time at the wedding. The father, the mother,
the mother of the bride, we were at the bar
watching the game, like me and six guys. While the
wedding's going on. They're fucking cutting the cake and they're
doing garters and shit and broke bouquets and we're in
there watching the game. The father listen to this, The wife,
I'm sorry. The mother of the bride came in and

(21:11):
told the bartender shut that game off because we're yelling
and screaming and the weddings in the next room, and
she said I want this game shut off. And we
said hey to the bartender, why are you shutting the
game off? And he said, sorry, guys. Mother of the
bride and my buddy's father, who's right next to me

(21:32):
drinking beers and watching the game, stood up and goes, well,
I'm the fucking father of the groom and I want
it on like you do to start the whole thing.
So DUTs fan. His son is getting married in the
next room. My buddy came out and me said, dude,

(21:53):
are you for real? Are you really doing this? I
was one of like four friends he invited for that reason.
He just He's like, I'm only inviting a couple of
friends because I just know how we get. We're we're
not right in the head. And it just so happened
that the Jets got into this situation winning you're in

(22:14):
against the Dolphins. Remember Johnny Hector ran crazy, got us
RAOULA Legray, a guy we remember Pat lay That was
the year Pat Lay our kicker for seventeen years. He
got sciatica and just fell off a cliff, and we
went and signed Raoul Legray off the street he was
with the Giants, and he kicked the field goal and

(22:36):
got us a fifty yard field goal or forty eight
yarders yarder, and we got into the playoffs. What happened
Then we got into the playoffs, we were done one game.
Then there was the year. So that's now we're down
to four, you know what I mean? I mean like

(22:57):
that was the one in ues. So I think, like
the rest are all one and dones in my life,
maybe one or two. I don't remember. There's the AFC,
there's the mud Bowl, right, I counted that one with
the FOURFC championship games. So anyway, it's like, dude, they've
given us nothing, a smattering, just enough sustenance to keep

(23:20):
you alive. Man. So I don't know, I don't know
what's left. I don't know what we do now. What
we can do with this is we can spin it
around and we can root for the tank. But it
sucks to root for a tank in early October and
we're still technically in it. Lose one more, I mean

(23:41):
nine and eight, two more games, you were like a
officially out out out, But are we really rooting for
a tank? Now? We got to root for them to
get rid of some of our players so we can
have more ammo going into this draft that we're gonna
put all of our hopes and dreams on. And if
they do get the number one an overall pick, and

(24:01):
they pick a Mendoza or a fucking Sellers or a
club Nick or whoever more, whoever one of these guys
that we take will probably choose the wrong one, because
that's how that goes. But not to get there, get
stuck on that. But are we gonna support them. We
didn't support Sam, we didn't support Zach Sanchez got a

(24:23):
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(26:15):
let's talk a little bit about what I see Aaron
Glenn do it. What the deal really is with Aaron
Glenn Mousie the team any intelligent? Right, Well, I'll tell
you I don't like to I don't like this to
be the only thing I'm happy about. And I have

(26:36):
good people in my life that I care about, and
I know that they're very unhappy because of this. But
it was real nice to see the giants blow that lead.
Huh eh, all right, yea take that. That's what it is.
And you know, look, it just is what it is. Man.

(26:57):
I don't get any hope, I don't get any love,
I don't get any good positive vibes from my team,
So I'm rooting for your team. They'll do the same
to you. That's just the way I am, all right
the way I am. Now you see this nice jersey.
Let me show you what's going on here, everybody. This
is a quinnin Williams jersey. You see it Williams. Now,

(27:19):
if you're new here, you won't know this. If you've
been hanging out with me, you will. I refused to
buy a new Jets jersey until it was someone I
had to like, the player number one. But I was
waiting for a player that I liked to get a
legitimate second contract, not a Jordan Jenkins one year extension,
not a Nathan Shepherd one year extension, not shit like that.

(27:44):
I wanted a legit Jet guy. Draft pick did not
have to be first. I wanted a Jets draft pick
to get a legit second contract. Then by your stinking jersey.
So Quinn Williams it was. He got the big extension.

(28:08):
The Jets changed their look. I said yeah, because I
didn't want to buy. So you know, we got this
style right, This was a great This is my favorite jersey.
So this style here, this is my dirty Bird. This
is the dirty Bird right here, the dirty Bird jersey signed,
interestingly enough, signed by Mark Gasteneau. So I got my

(28:31):
bird jersey signed by Gastono. Gotta love it. But this
style is great. Then they got rid of that style.
They got rid of the best helmet I thought, my opinion,
the best helmets in the league, right and it was
a company with like this, this style dirty ass had.

(28:54):
I probably got to clean this thing one of these days.
But this style, this was it. I loved it, my favorite,
the best helmet in the business. And by the way,
if you go back through Jets lore, the annals of
Jets history, the timeline when if you look at our
best teams anytime we were a real success, there's only

(29:19):
one phase that wasn't with the white helmet, the Zach
Exchange that period, Kenny oh Wesley Walker, Freeman, McNeil, altoon
those guys, Mickey Schuler, those guys that they were with
the you know, with this logo, but every other thing.

(29:40):
If you look at the most successful Jets teams, three
of the four AFC Championship Game appearances all with the
white helmet. That was the thing, and that was my favorite.
I grew up. When I became a Jets fan. This
was the jerky, this was the helmet, and then Parcels
changed it back. We had the Parcels years to grow,

(30:03):
nine and seven, we had the Herm Edwards years, which
were pretty good, the Mangini years which were ten and six,
four and twelve, nine and seven. Then we had the
Rex two AFC Championship games. That was my favorite jersey,
Bravid helmet, favorite style. But then we went to the
Adam Gays Christopher Johnson style, which was what's the word

(30:28):
or the Yeah, well, let's let's call them hot garbage.
How's that sound hot garbage? Now I could have made
it work. I figured it out. The Jets would have
come out changed into that uniform and we started winning.
I mean, I don't care, I'm in right, But it
was as lame as lame got. The wings on the

(30:51):
jerseys silly. So I didn't want to buy if I
you know what I mean, if I had to, if
that was our jersey, you gotta buy it if that's
what you're gonna do. So Quinn Williams gets his con
tract and they changed styles to the I think they
called it what they called the Legend jersey, so it
is right before they officially did it. So I scooped

(31:12):
it up right away and I went to jets Camp
with my good buddy, the abstract, Q Tip himself. We
went into we went to jets Camp and we got
to hang out with the players. We were in the
VIP section. Not because of me, I'll tell you that.
But anyway, it was a great day and I let

(31:33):
it's funny because I let people know, like our our
guide and some other people. I said, I'm I had
a marker. I said, I want Quinn Williams. What I'm
really my number one goal here. I would like to
have Quinn Williams sign my jersey. And I was talking
to Who was I talking to? I might have been

(31:54):
talking to Joe Douglas and Hackett at the time. And
I turned around Q Tip. She said yo mean look
and I turned around and Quinn Williams was waiting for me.
They told him, hey, green Bean, this guy green Bean
over here really wants you to sign his jersey. So
he came right out. He waited for me to finish

(32:15):
my conversation. I think it was Joe Douglas and Hackett
because they were for Hackett. I'll tell you all the bolts,
all the football stuff aside as far as a fun
guy to talk to. Dude for the roof. If I
think it was him, it might have been Michael Clemens.
I had to forget. But anyway, Quinn Williams was right there.
You know who it was. It was Quincy and Nunuah.

(32:37):
It was Quincy and Nunuah, Oh and somebody else, maybe
bull All Powell because they were there too. It might
have been those guys. And I turned around and Quinnen
was waiting for me. We had a little chat. He
said the jersey looked good. Said that's a nice ass
jersey you got there. He didn't say that's a nice

(32:58):
jersey you got, I said. So he signed it right here,
and I haven't worn it ever. I wore it that
day to the camp. He signed it. I wore it
that night on a live stream. You guys all yelled
at me and said you gotta put it away. So
I put it away until today and I brought it
out as some as a clean, fresh good luck charm

(33:22):
for the Jets. It didn't work. So that's that I
wanted to point. That's what you're looking at here. That's
the old Q and we'll see. Now do you think
Quinn Williams is on the chopping block? You think he's
on the trading block? I don't know now if the Jets.
So here's the thing with Aaron Glenn. You got Aaron

(33:45):
Glenn and Darren Mugie, that's our brain trust. You. Now
you have Spielman. I'm not sure of his role in
all this, but he's there. And then you got the
Woody Christopher Johnson, Brick Johnson thing. Brick Johnson's now eighteen
years old, nineteen years old whatever he is, So he's
kinda you know, he's going to own the team soon.

(34:07):
Maybe not soon, but someday. Wood he's in his eighties.
Christopher Johnson is whatever, a little younger than Woody. And
then you got Brick. It's gonna be his team. I
would be surprised. That's what I'm That's what I see
in the future. So you got all these guys. But
they say that even though Mouge is the GM and

(34:29):
Spielman is a long time GM Vikings fame, right, Aaron
Glenn has the real final say on the players. Think
about that? Now, I don't know. I don't know. It's
good bad, I don't know. But what I will say

(34:51):
is this, it's another weird dynamic that we have. Right. So,
this is the thing with the Jets and why it's
so hard to believe that they're gonna do anything, that
they're gonna succeed, like it's gonna work, because it's never
just normal. It's always weird. We had a couple years

(35:13):
of normal. So the Jets for the last bunch of
for the last bunch of years, did what they had.
The GM and the head coach as equals, and they
both reported up to a guy who doesn't know shit
about football. So if they go tit for tat and
they go up to Johnson to Woodster, he's gonna do what.

(35:36):
He's gonna choose who he likes better. That's really what
it boils down to. So like for example, when Rex
was here, Rex and Tanny were so Tanny's here for
a bunch of years, came with Parcels. He was the accountant.
He's famous for the poison pill that got Curtis Martin here,
lauded Da da dada. He ends up being our GM,

(35:57):
probably the best GM we ever had, got us to
two AFC Championship Games. Trader Mike, so he is here
for a while. Hire fires Manginie, hires Rex Ryan. They
were successful. They had a good thing going on, but
then there was the as it started to fall apart.
In twenty eleven, you had the San Antonio Holmes blow up.

(36:18):
You had the contract with remember when he Tannenbaum wanted
to get Peyton Manning here and it heard Sanchez's feelings,
so then he gave Sanchez a weird extension out of nowhere,
like guilt. So there was that, and then they traded
for Tim Tebow and brought him over. It brought all

(36:39):
the t Bow wackados. I don't know if you guys remember.
I don't know if you guys remember all this, but
it was crazy. The Tebow fans were nuts, way worse
than the Zach Wilson BYU people, remember those guys. The
Tebow thing was nuts, and so they brought all that

(37:01):
noise over and it just was stupid. They didn't know
how to use them. And Rex distanced himself from all that.
And as we started to fail, Rex kind of threw
Tanny under the bus. So Tannenbaum took the fall on
the Sword, which is why when the thirty third team

(37:22):
r run by Tannebaum, they asked them to find the
next coach in GM, and Rex is the first interview.
Everybody that thought, I'm like, dude, there's no way Tannebaum's
not hiring Rex. A second time Tannenbaum got screwed by
Rex was never getting hired. Why can't anybody see the

(37:47):
reality of this world? There is no it's not It's
all an illusion, man. So what happens Tannebaumb goes away,
but they're keeping Red, which is weird. Right, You keep
the head coach, but fire the general manager, and then
you're gonna go interview general managers and come in here

(38:10):
to to do what be second fiddle to a guy
who's more than likely on his last legs unless he
miraculously turns it around. We got contracts from hell. So
they hire Idsick because they're not hiring anybody else. Nobody
else is coming here. They hire an accountant, numbers guy.
He's not a drill. GM takes the job. Who do

(38:32):
he thinks the boss Rex? Look when we look at
the Idsick twelve and you look at all these players,
you think Idsick decided to take a fucking strong safety
with his first round pick in the strongest wide receiver
class of all time up to that point. You think
that was Idsac or was it Rex? Come on, pay

(38:53):
it ten? What do we see? Just because Izac carries
the name general manager makes those sense? So again, then
that situation, you got the head coach over the GM.
Then you got they get rid of those guys and
you hire Casserly and Wolf to hire your next GM
and coach. They hire the fucking coach first, They hire

(39:16):
Bulls first. Balls was in the facility when Tannebaum, I
mean when Mike mccagnen got here and they hey, hey
doing he like he was waiting for still, So the
GM didn't hire the coach, and then they're both on
equal footing reporting to a guy that just needed to
hire Castlely to hire them. Do you see it? Do

(39:45):
you see it? They had to get corn Ferry, which
is inn word a firm, head hunting firm or some shit.
I don't know what the hell they are, but they
hire corn Ferry to hire insit. Great, good job, good stuff,
But what else are they gonna do? That blows up?
Then you go, you know what, let's hire somebody from
the NFL world. Good job, you hire Castley and ron

(40:08):
Wolf two former GMS, Ron Wolf former Jets Guy. Great.
They go out and hire their friends. Mike mccagdan and
Castley were buddies. That's how he got the job. He's
never even been an assistant GM, and here, fuck he is.
He's leading the charge. Here you go. It's amazing. And

(40:29):
so that doesn't work. You got you bring Mike mccagnen hires,
or Mike mccagnan and Christopher Johnson hire Adam Gase. Adam
Gase doesn't like the way mccagnuan does his draft, so
they let him use the draft third overall pick one
hundred million dollars in free agency, Levey On Bells, CJ. Moseley,

(40:51):
all the stuff quinnin Williams right. They let him do
the whole thing, and then they Adam Gase doesn't like mccagnin.
So because Peyton Manning called Christopher Johnson and spoke for
Adam Gase. When Adam Gase is man doesn't like mccagnet,
Christopher Johnson fucking fires M. So now you got a
head coach in here, we got no GM. The first

(41:14):
thing he does as the hey Geze is the de
facto interim GM. He goes and trades mccagnin's number one pick,
Darren Lee for like a sixth it's crazy man. And
then when they he gets Joe Douglas in here, he's
buddies with Joe Douglas. So they get Joe Douglas in here,

(41:35):
and then Joe Douglas has to fire Adam Gasee a
year and a half later. And then finally when they
fire Adam Gasee, they put at that time Joe Douglas
and then and gase were equals and reporting up, so
it's like weird. And then finally when they fire Adam
gase they make a statement. What do he makes a statement?

(41:57):
It says the coach that we hire will report to
the general manager, and the general manager will report to
the owner. Finally, well, that lasted three years, maybe we
could say four. Let's go three years, because then they
fired at or up because Woody Johnson fired Salah. Joe

(42:20):
Douglas didn't even know. It's all doomed to fail, all
of it. It's like, as you talk about this, this
brings us to this. We go out and we hire
our former general manager. Think about the incestuous sickness. We

(42:45):
hire the thirty third team, who is run by our
former general manager, Mike Tannebaum, by the way, hired and
the guys he hired, Adam Gase, our former coach that
got mccagnuin fired. He works for the thirty third team.

(43:08):
So we got this weird like, there's a million people
in the world and this is what's going on to
hire a former Jet defensive rookie head coach and the
GM that, for all intents and purposes, nobody was looking

(43:28):
at nobody. He wasn't on anybody's lists. He wasn't he
was just he came out of nowhere. Now did they
get turned down by I mean, what what was it?
So now we're looking at these guys and this is
the madness that they existed. Do you think it can work?

(43:49):
And we're very realistically looking at a top three pick
because I don't know about you. I have a real
hard time believing that the Jets, knowing the Jets and
like I said throughout this friggin' podcast, all the layers
of pain, that they find a whole new section of

(44:10):
the amusement bark of pain. I have a real hard
time believing that they are going to stick to this
and actually get the number one pick. I just don't
buy it. I'm totally down. But again, guys, it's been

(44:32):
twenty eight years since we did that, since we had
the number one pick. Let me share this with you.
It was a different owner. Woody has never had the
first overall pick, not one time think of it. And

(44:53):
somehow this year we're gonna do it somehow, and we're
gonna give a rookie head coach. Now they'll have a
year under their belt, so they won't be rookies anymore.
It'll be their second draft, but a very very novice

(45:16):
head coach general manager where the head coach is really
the boss. We're gonna give them the first overall pick
and whatever else we get out of this potential fire
sale that we might see in a couple weeks. Do
we get rid of Q, Do we get rid of

(45:37):
his brother? Do we get rid of Sherwood? Do we
get rid of Michael Carter? The second Bryce Hall. There's
been a lot of calls about our edge rushers. Do
they see like, look, it sucks, but do they see
something like, well, hey, we really need to retool this
damn team? And maybe they do allow with Jamaine Johnson

(46:01):
to go, I think he should be off the table.
He's one of those you see it man, He's on
a different level than most of the people on that
defensive line. You got Q, and you got Jermaine Johnson,
Will McDonald. We're starting to really see he's a pass
rushing specialist more than likely. That other part of his

(46:21):
game that's sealing the edge and run defender probably not
going to develop into that. Okay, fine, but outside of
those guys, Phillips looks solid. Briggs had a SEC in
this game, looks solid for sure. Nice collection of talent,
nice group, But Jamaine Johnson is definitely the top of

(46:45):
that heap. You got quinnin you know, Quinn's he is
having a great year, So make Quinn's probably number one,
I would say, but JJ's right behind him. If that
guy can stay healthy, you got you got a real one.
But maybe they do, like you know, so, I don't know,
maybe they do. Maybe they maybe somebody says, look, i'll

(47:06):
give you a first and next year's second, or first
and a fourth, or then they go, you know what,
having to first in this draft, let us take that
quarterback and get an immediate wide receiver. We got our second.
If we get a fourth, you know, we'll have three
fourths in the whole. You know what I mean? I

(47:26):
don't know, maybe they do, but we're gonna give it
to these guys or the alternative guys is that we
fire everybody. Whatever we get out of it now this year,
the fire sale will still be there is no matter
what happens at the end of the year. But here's

(47:49):
the thing. Who's gonna hire their replacements? You're going back
to the thirty third team. Great job with your one
and done. You can't possibly you can't possibly go back
to the thirty third team. They interviewed seven hundred people,

(48:10):
Remember how many ridiculous interviews they did, So you're going
to go back to them. Know who you're gonna Who's who?
Who are you gonna get to fucking hire the je Dude,
If you have any wonder why the Jets are so

(48:34):
fucking bad, look no further than we are an eight
point four billion dollar team and there's nobody in the
fucking building that can interview or hire a general manager.
We have a president and vice president of football operations. Dude.

(48:58):
It should tell you more than any any dude. It
speaks louder than if a hundred screaming, fucking up pulumpas
were yelling in your face. There's nothing they could say
that would tell them that would that would make it.
There's nothing they could say that would convince me that

(49:24):
money is not their priority. It's not football because nobody
in the building. There is nobody there what he has
owned this team for twenty five years. There is nobody
in the building that knows who to interview, how to interview,
what to do. They have no idea. Evidenced by the

(49:47):
last three times he did it. He had some outside
agency do it who doesn't know us, who doesn't They
just got here and we trust them with the fucking kingdom.
It's crazy. You gotta give it to Christopher Johnson. At
least he tried to do it himself, him and mccagnin,

(50:08):
but they weren't hiring a GM, they were only doing
a coach. So, I mean, dude, if do you really
think there's any success waiting for us? We are zero
and seven. Nobody in our organization knows how to interview
somebody for the fucking general manager or head coaching jobs.
They don't know how to do it. They don't know

(50:29):
who could possibly do it. He doesn't notice saydom to Tannebaum, Hey,
look we went through X Y and ZEBA. I really
want to go I want this, I want this type
of He has no idea. He just h I mean,
I don't know what those meetings look and sound like

(50:50):
HEIMI what does he do now? He's in trouble for
sexual assault? Like what is going on? So either you
fire everybody, all the people saying fire Aaron glennfid do
you realize what you're really saying who not only who

(51:12):
wants to come here? Because remember last year the Ben
Johnson is, the Liam Cohens, the offensive guys of the world.
They didn't even take an interview with us. They didn't
even want to be interviewed. They said no thanks, but

(51:35):
no thanks. We're not wasting our time. There is no
way in hell we're taking that job. So you got that,
But then on top of it, you have to find
some new group to hire these guys, because the one
you just did hired the guys you just fired after
one season. The alternative is to keep Aaron Glenn and

(52:04):
Mujie and let them just do what they do and
raw and learn, because this if we happen to get
that first round pick, of that first overall pick, remember
it's Woodi's first in twenty five years. It's the most
valuable football asset we've ever had, the most valuable asset

(52:27):
we've ever had under this guy. He has been here
for the entirety of this century. And we're gonna give
it to guys that have no really no idea. It's

(52:49):
what it looks like now in their defense. The penalties
are down right, so we see that. It looks like
the guys are playing hard. Blah blah blah all that,
but it does look like the mid season trades, you
know what I mean, Like the Brownlee Brownlee didn't have
the best game today, but he wasn't bad. But you

(53:10):
look at Briggs Phillips. They're solid, they're good, and you
gave up very little for them. So those were good trades,
you know. The draft class. Membo, dude, let me tell you,
Membo protecting justin fields like that, I don't care. He

(53:30):
didn't get the penalty, which is amazing, but I'll do that.
I'll take that penalty seven days a week the time,
unless it's like Super Bowl at the end of the
you know what I mean, situationally, but other than that,
loved what he did. Membo protected his quarterback. The kid

(53:52):
just got here. He's in the seventh game of his
entire career, and he's the way, you know what I mean,
He's the one like I don't know, man, the Jets,
we have so much to change, But Aaron Glenn, here's
the thing, guys, we gotta stop listening to his pressers.

(54:14):
We gotta stop paying attention to Well, if you would
have said this, maybe I think this, and we got
to push all that to the side. We really do.
It would be brutal to have to start over. The
only thing is that having that number one overall pick,
maybe that's attractive enough. You got pretty much the offensive
line intact, pretty much. You got Garrett Wilson, you got

(54:37):
two young running backs, you got Mason Taylor, you know
what I mean. You got a lot of pieces on
this offense. So if you have the number one overall
pick and the coach is guaranteed you're gonna be able
to use it on any quarterback you want, maybe that's
attractive enough to get with who Cliff Kingsbury, He said,

(55:03):
I mean Mike McCarthy. I mean, who are the who
who who? So anyway, the truth is, guys, it's not
Aaron Glenn, it's not Darren Mugie, it's not justin Fields.
Those are just the new faces. Those are just the
guys today. But at some point we have to let

(55:26):
somebody just put everything aside. Stop with our dramatic shit
about who's getting fired and blah blah, Just stop and
understand that at some point we got to step back
and let somebody build the foundation. At some point, maybe

(55:47):
you wish it would, maybe it should have been a
different guy than Eric, but he's the guy we got
and he's respected in league circles. What's his name? Dan Campbell,
the head coach of the Detroit Lions, said, if Aaron
Glenn can't turn that team around, no one can. That's
how highly he believed, That's how strongly he believes in him,

(56:08):
how highly he considers Aaron Glenn. So at some point,
he's a former Jet, clearly knows the game of ball.
We gotta let him figure it out. We gotta stop
putting him on the hot seat. We gotta stop making
him think about that shit and just support him. Give

(56:30):
them the number one overall pick if we get it,
support him, let him trade if he's gonna trade, Quinnin
Williams and his brother and Michael Carter the Second and
Breese Hall and maybe they trade Lazard and get a
seventh like who knows. We're gonna have to let them
do it. We're gonna have to let them use it,

(56:52):
and we're gonna have to ride because going back to
the damn well with an organization who has no fucking
idea how to hire anybody, it's just not what the
doctor ordered. Man, Oh my gosh, are you not entertained

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