2025 Week 12: Quarterback Conundrums

Joe Burrow back? Aaron Rodgers with a broken bone? There are QB questions that The Collective try to answer. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
World. Welcome back to Great ire Cambell, the only podcast
to put this money where its mouth is. I'm your host,
rich Ron and I'm joined by the entire collective, The Disciple,
Brett Colsen, Donnie D. P. Peters, and the Resident moves himself.

(00:30):
Mo Nowara. If you're watching this on YouTube, please like
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Davis Mills, the Georgia product Stanford Cardinal. It was a
five star quarterback prospect and now the starting quarterback for

(00:54):
the Houston Texans. Oh my goodness. You know I was
pressing my buttons before we hit record. I got into
a good rhythm of them not sticking, and then as
soon as we hit the record button, I pressed them.
I get nothing. What the hell? Okay, this is Bulls.
Make that sound. They're currently trailing six nail against Brett's

(01:18):
beloved Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Make majuana.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I've got under forty four and a half. Brett's got
something to say.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
The Bills even have a four star player players with
the scrub ass schools.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
What about Dion James Cook was four star for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
What about Big.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
A temple.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
With a temple. Yeah wow, yeah, three.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Star Utah Wyoming always from Boise State, Shakir. All these
guys went to scrub schools.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
He's from Rahway, Rahway, New Jersey. Mister Dawkins a Mari
Amari Cooper.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Three and two body blow for the collective last week,
Yo Boy was the only one to submit an above
five hundred card at exactly three and two. Mo was
two to two and one. Donnie and Brett were two
and three. Donnie, did I mushit? Am I the reason why? Uh?
These two Jimokes couldn't put winners on the card? Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes, hands down? Okay, yeah you do. You definitely deserve
that ball that uh Dolphins cover. Definitely, Yeah you did.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
You did put a winner on the card. I was,
I was. I was juggling on the fly as to
whether or not it was the collective or or you
two that got it wrong, And it was indeed the collective
with most Kansas City chiefs who starting to get late
early out in Kansas City. Mo, you were at the game.
We'll get into the games here in a second. It's
a very wonky week with a lot of injuries and

(02:55):
a lot of a tough capping week personally, But MO,
you were at like, I don't even know the name
of It's not my Ohio anymore.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's some something empower Yeah, some crap bag company sponsored stadium.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Did you watch the end of the Dynasty in person? Maybe?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It was a not a fun game in some senses.
It was a fun game in other senses. I really
enjoyed the stadium and the fans. I told them that
they weren't loud enough, but they were actually pretty loud,
so that was nice to see. And yeah, the Chiefs
didn't deserve it. So I just you know, all the

(03:41):
metrics are telling us this team is just fine. So
I'm sure that certain people may have read into that
this week, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm sure you heard a lot of call please from
the Bronco faithful. All right, let's get into split contests,
where there are two hosts on one side and two
hosts on the other, and there is a game that
is featured in every single member of the Collective's top five.

(04:11):
It is Patriots at Bengals, and the big story with
this game is whether or not Joe Burrow will be
at quarterback. Four Cincinnati two straight full practices this week.
The most recent national reporting before this week was from
Jay Glazer, who said that Burrow was targeting Thanksgiving and

(04:31):
then walked it back and said Thanksgiving ish, which I
didn't know if it meant earlier or later. But it
seems as if Joe Cool is gung ho on playing
football this week, and I don't know what's going to
stop him from doing so. So the line which was

(04:52):
a it was a five and a half look ahead,
It actually opened at seven or north of seven in
some places and has now dropped back down to six
and a half. And Donnie and I are on the
road favorites here. I'm especially interested in hearing Donnie's opinion
because he's been shitting on Drake May, the presumed most

(05:16):
valuable player in his beloved pageots. But maybe he's just back.
He's just rabel pill blinders on Donnie's back. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, rule of ODB. Don't be stubborn, boys and girls.
I mean this, how bad really is this Bengals defense?
I mean, look at guys, seriously, Please explain to me
how in the world the Bengals are going to hold
them to sub forty please, Like I would love to
hear that argument, because all they do is give up

(05:45):
at least twenty seven points against every team. Now you
have Drake May and this offense, which is Hume and
coming into town. I mean, they're gonna hang a forty
burger on them. And then what's on the other side.
Pat's defense plays well. Bengals offensive line is Herri. Pats
have some pretty good corners that can mitigate I wouldn't
say shut down, but mitigate Chase and Higgins. And then

(06:07):
you're either gonna get what statue Joe Flacco or guy
running around on one toe like what?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I mean, how if Joe Burrow gets in there, how
long is he gonna last a week?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I mean, come on, this guy's just gonna this guy's
gonna jump out of nowhere, hasn't played football and god
knows how long, and he's just gonna come back in there,
and everyone's just gonna back the Bengals. And I hope
he gets announced in and I hope we get to
pick them at like minus six and a half when
it's like minus five everywhere else. That would just be great, Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
And we don't even have to mitigate Jamar Chase because
he mitigated himself by spitting on Jalen Ramsey and will
be suspended for this game. So there's no chase the
actual most important player on this football team. And Donnie's
absolutely right. How are the Cincinnati Bengals going to show
an absolute ounce of resistance on defense to the Patriots

(06:58):
who are coming off of the Mini The Patriots who
didn't even have to play a football game ten days ago.
They just had a walk through against the Jets where
every time in a high liverage situation it was just
hot knife through butter. Somebody was just wide open for
them to make a play. And the Bengals are just
getting more injured. Trey Hendriston is still dnp quit Cam.

(07:19):
Taylor Britt is now gonna miss Cam. Sample is now
gonna miss that. There's no cavalry coming. Everybody's gone, they've
left the building. So I need someone to explain to me.
We'll start with mo. I need you to explain to
me how the Bengals are gonna play competitive football in
this game.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, they have a very good professional quarterback coming back,
so they face a not particularly good team.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Guys, guys, the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Are minus six and a half on the road and
they're not a particularly good.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Team fourth s net EPA. That's not good.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I understand. Yeah, congratulations they got to play. This is
like Alabama beating Mercer fifty one to nil. I mean,
what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, yeah, and guess so they have this week. But
Dune Cookman, it's not like the Bengals could.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Outfit They can at least score some points. I mean,
why can't they score some points with Joe Burrow? And
there's gonna be energy in the building for this game now,
like energy in the locker room, like the players are
gonna case.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Capping for NRG Stadium that's where the Texans play.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
So so Bengals plus seven just just Joe Burrow's worth
half a point or whatever this is.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I thought I'm pretty sure it was nine at one point?
Yeah was I saw eight and a half nine?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Like and it's it's a weird middle ground too, So
it's not even like once he fully gets announced in
if that does happen, which it seems like it's going to,
then this is going to go even further.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But why would he be good at football if he
has a ten month injury or whatever Grade three turf
toe that he's now just playing football on.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
He's the fact that Chase isn't there and he's got
he still has to go behind this offensive line. The
offensive line did not change from when he got hurt
to now. It is still the same shit bag offensive
line that is they are putting out there.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Why shouldn't be scared of anything that Patriots are doing
on defense?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Brett get in here.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
So I cap this for Flacco in hopes that he plays,
because I want the Bengals. If Flacco plays, if Burrow plays,
I don't know what the hell to do with this game.
I think this is Burrow's or I think this is
Flaco's last shot, right, like this is his last game,
this is his swan song. I think that's the guy

(09:58):
I want a quarterback. If I'm to FM, take the
Bengals in the spot. So if that changes, if Burrow
does play, then I'm gonna bump this out of my
top five for sure. But that's that's the way I
approached this because the market, the market movement is just
it confused me, honestly, because I don't know that did
the look ahead Bacon the potential that Burrow was going
to play, I don't know what to think about that.

(10:21):
I don't know what this line should be, honestly, because
I don't know what. I don't know what Burl is
gonna look like.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
We moved to Bucks at Rams. A tough road to
hoe for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who had to travel
to Buffalo to take on Brett's Bill's very tough physical game.
Now they have to fly all the way to the
West coast to take on Mo. The best team in
the NFL, perhaps the lot Angels Rams. MO once again

(10:49):
baiting the Rams plus seven Tampa Bay in his top five.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, I mean, who was better between Seahawks and Rams?
Ninety percent of the players, the Seahawks were better. One
dip shit ruined it.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
But that was predictive.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
It can be. I don't know, But I'm just saying like,
I'm not gonna sit here and crown the Rams because
they won by two when the other team threw four
picks or whatever. I mean, that's just ridiculous. So yeah,
I think the Rams are still overvalued. And now Baker
Mayfield is getting seven points, so yeah, I think give

(11:30):
me that when he's facing a defense that isn't gonna
blitz him again. And the Bucks scored thirty two points
or whatever last week when Buffalo did what I said
they were gonna do, which was sit back and just
let him do what he wanted. So I think the
Rams are gonna do much the same. They just lost
one of their best defensive backs. So I just think

(11:54):
this line is like a point too high. I mean,
I just think especially when you see the Rams coming
off that where everyone wants to crown them, like you, you dummy,
So that makes me even more want to take the
other side.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Here DP Pylon, you two have Baker and them boys
in the top five.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah, but I'm not gonna stand here like like mo Is,
I mean, I almost want to play Devil's advocate to
everything that he just said. Like, I agree that I
think the line is probably a point too high, But like,
I don't know how you can say the Rams are overrated.
They're a really really good team, really good on both
sides of the ball. They've beat some really good teams. Yeah,
they've had a couple of mishaps during the season, but

(12:35):
who hasn't. And I mean, like this is a really
tough spot for the Bucks overall. Now, the Bucks are
also good, and I'm hoping that Jamel Dean can help
slow down Pokin Nakua. I mean, that's a chore in
and of itself. I don't even know if that's even
possible to happen. That guy's on absolute fire and no
one can cover that guy in the history. But if
he can, maybe this is a little bit closer, you know,

(12:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I ultimately don't think the Rams are the type of
team and play the type of style that they run
away from things to cover seven. So I think this
should be probably five and a half six in that range,
not a full touchdown. So That's where I'm at. But
I'm also it's kind of middleish to lower on my card,
and I'm not like, I'm not going to be surprised
if they win and cover the Rams, but you know,

(13:22):
it feels high.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I've got this extremely low in the contest, as does Brett,
and it's about the number the full seven. I have
a six and a half minus fifteen cents in my
accounts before it went to seven. I'm very happy about
that with the market movement, and I just think it's
another brutal spot for a Bucks team that when they
line up some cupcakes in the NFC South towards the

(13:46):
end of the season. I think they'll mow them down.
They'll be healthier. I still don't think we get Godwin
or Irving in this game, So I think they'll just
hold those guys out and just mow down their weaker
competition and put a bow on the division. But this
is just a gross spot after the Bills game. And
what did we talk about last week where Matt Stafford
struggles and did struggle against the Seahawks. It's getting pressure

(14:10):
with four The Bucks are twenty first in pressure rate
despite blitzing at the third highest rate in football. That
is not a recipe for success against Matt Stafford. So
I'm happy with the value that I have in real life.
Holy but Jesus, Josh just got himself killed. I think
he just broke his hand. Josh Allen just broke his hand.

(14:32):
I think that's the thing that just happened.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
So let me ask you what's your concern level on
DeVante Adams because zero, he's not on the injury port
But dude, oblique injuries usually last like a month. Yeah,
but what's he wasn't effective last week?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
They don't even use him until they get to the
red zone and then he just scores a touchdown like
that's just the way they used. Davante Pooka does everything
between the twenties. Play here. I think that might be
broken wrist, broken hand man, boo boo boo, Josh just
oh man, Okay, not fun, not good. I'm feeling for Brett,

(15:14):
but I'm also feeling for myself. My two biggest leagues
get I'm gonna get chopped in guillotine. Cool. Well, maybe
he's up now, maybe he's just being a wuss, but
the way he landed, all right, we'll keep it on
injury watch here on the show. The next game, I mean,
welcome to Week twelve of twenty twenty five. The Falcons

(15:39):
travel to Atlanta. Excuse me. The Falcons travel to New Orleans,
where the Saints are doing appoint favorite with Tyler Schuck
at quarterback, and it's because Michael Pennix towards acl again
brutal for the kid. Drake London will not play in
this contest either. And and one of the most shocking

(16:02):
selections I've seen all year is Brett not only taking
the Saints but having them soft bubble his top five Brett.
Isn't this rule of backup quarterback look ahead of three
and a half to two and a half something Michael
Pennix being worth all these points?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I struggled with that at first, but I think
this really just comes down to a spot where I
think Atlanta's just completely run out of gas. The Falcons
have played two straight overtime games, one of them overseas,
both heartbreaking losses, a lot of snaps for the defense,
That defense last week nowhere to be found in the
second half, and overtime, Bryce Young did whatever he wanted

(16:44):
so physically emotionally, I think this has just been a
brutal stretch for Atlanta, and it really just showed last
week where they just let the Panthers back into the
game and handed it to them on defense. Now they
got to go on the road without their starting quarterback
and their best wide receiver, their only receiver. Let's be honest,
is there a more important receiver to a team than

(17:07):
Drake London. They have nobody else, and they're facing a
Saints defense that's been far better than people will give
them credit for. Like they face the second toughest schedule
of opposing offenses, and the toughest slate of quarterbacks in
the league, and they're still top twenty in defense EPA
and top ten and rush success rate. And that's critical

(17:28):
because they can load the box and take away the
one good thing that Atlanta does well, and that's run
the football. So that leaves Kirk to try and win
this game, and I just don't I don't trust him.
I think that's where they get where this gets really
ugly for Atlanta. So as gross as it is to
click the Saints minus, I just think this is a

(17:49):
spot where Atlanta. I think Atlanta's just cooked.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Mose over there nodding like someone who has been dying
to put real American dollars on New Orleans and was
just waiting for someone to tell him to do it.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I mean, yeah, this is a weird I said before
the start of the season that Drake London was one
of the most important players when we were doing the
preseason stuff because the lack of pass catching options is
egregious on this team. So yeah, at the same time,
I think Tyler Shruck is terrible, But man, the Kirk
Cousins tape has been as bad as it gets. Dude,

(18:24):
is anybody worse than Kirk, he might just be done.
I don't know what to do with this game. But
everything is telling me that this is like roughly a
fair line, but I'm still I'm still kind of wanting
to bet the Saints because I and everyone's on the Falcons.
I guess like the ticket count is seventy something percent

(18:44):
on the Falcons, so everyone's just seeing Falcons, plus that
you can fade the Saints and clicking that. But I
don't know if that's right.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Man, DP, you've got the highest opinion on Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, I really don't have much here though. I ultimately
just don't want to points with the Saints. That's where
I'm at with this one. So yeah, I got London
obviously sucks, Kirk sucks, so it's just I guess.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's give me the two and a half.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I've gotten over forty and a half ticket in my account. Look,
the Saints are number one in situation neutral pace, and
Kirk Cousins feels like a volatility quarterback in that he
could either complete some splash plays the Darnell Mooney or
the Saints could have some short fields. So I think
there's gonna be some some sneaky points in this game.

(19:32):
Inside total, I'm seeing thirty nine now, so market thinks
I was an idiot for getting that down. So I
can see an angle for people looking up on Sunday
and seeing some points being scored in this game. Speaking
of a game, nobody has any opinion on the Hawks
at Titans. The Seahawks are thirteen and a half point

(19:55):
road favorites, and DP, believe it or not, you have
the highest opinion on this entire game on cool do
any does anybody have any angle in this game? No?

Speaker 4 (20:09):
This is just a decent spot for the Seahawks to
get right and they blow out bad teams like move on.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
If you want to bet this game, just bet Seahawks
minus seventeen and a half parlayed with an alt under.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Little negative correlation parlay There. Love that I came into
this exercise thinking that Tennessee would be a fine click
and then I see that Iomanor has not practiced this week,
and you're probably out there saying why with something elik
Iomanor matter And it's because there's literally nobody upright catching
passes for the Titans. It is timire Dk and that's it.

(20:50):
Now that Calvin Ridley is officially done for the season,
so I don't even know how the back door would
be open because I don't even know who cam Ward
would be throwing cokeballs too. So let's get away from
this game as fast as possible and get to some
low wolves. I was admonished for the selection even before

(21:19):
the podcast started because Moe texted the group and said,
there's a certain game where if anybody has an opinion
on this, he's going to kick I think, just kick
me in the nuts? Is that what I'm what I'm
going to get? Because I have the Chicago Bears. I
don't know if I put him as the last thick

(21:40):
in my top four five or if I purposely bubble
them so I would avoid the kick from Mo. But
it's Bears minus two and a half hosting the Pittsburgh Steelers,
who themselves have some quarterback ambiguity because Annon Rodgers broke
a bone in his non throwing hand, and like Joe Burrow,
seems like he's on an absolute warpath to play in

(22:02):
this game. Mason Rudolph would be the alternative, and I'm
capping for Rogers. I think this guy Tomlin is going
to love the fact that his quarterback is just out
there playing with a broken bone in his hand. I
think he's gonna get off on that. And I think,
why know Rogers has been a bottom ten quarterback this

(22:22):
season and now he's playing with a broken bone on
the road. It just seems like a recipe for disaster.
And I know, I know all of the numbers are
pointing towards the Bears being one of the luckiest teams
in football plus sixteen in turnover differential, number one in
turnover EPA, But at the end of the day, this

(22:43):
still is a team that's tenth in offense EPA and
having some success. And we know the Steelers are just
going to roll out and do their thing, and I
think they're susceptible to being thrown on, and I think
Ben Johnson is going to be able to take advantage
of that. So I think if one team is going
to struggle to move the ball because their quarterback is hurt,

(23:04):
and one team is going to be able to take
advantage of a vanilla defense and have success, then I
gotta lay the two and a half, especially when the
look ahead was one and a half. You're telling me
I'm only getting a point of value when the quarterback
is going to be playing with a broken bone in
his hand. Brett, tell me why I'm wrong. You absolutely
despise the twenty twenty five Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah. I pick against them every week and that's going
really well for me right now. Aaron Rodgers owns the
Bears by the way. I love that, not that that's
an angle we should be playing, but I just love
that he's trying to get back and play this football game.
This game is great. This is the voodoo ball man.
Like I said last week, Chicago is NFC Pittsburgh with
all the luck that's gone their way in high leverage
this season, and now they play Pittsburgh. This is amazing

(23:46):
because something has to give. Chicago can't keep getting away
with this. They actually did kind of play outplay the
Vikes last week, but Caleb was sloppy, and once again,
they win the turnover battle by two and come away
with a late field goal for the win. Chicago has
played one team with a winning record this year. They

(24:07):
got whacked by Detroit. I don't think any of us
think the Steelers are very good, but they are a
physical team. They can get to the quarterback. They might
get Alex high Smith back this week, limited to practice
on Thursday, and that's big because Caleb is good at
evating pressure and making plays out of the pocket. But
he's also I think he's run a bit above expectation

(24:28):
there as well. And caleb sacks are worth more than
the ever sack because he takes a lot of risks
back there, and if the Steelers can contain him, wrap
him up. I think the Bears are going to find
themselves in some really tough, laid down situation, potentially some
turnover regression here, and when it comes down to it,
just give me Mike Tomlin voodo over any other voodoo
out there. So yeah, I like the Steelers quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
DP Pylon. You two have Pittsburgh in your top five.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Well, there is some reporting coming out recently about how
the Steelers are switching up what they do on defense.
So maybe Mike Tomlin finally had a light bulb go
off in his head. Maybe finally. I mean not that
I expect him to completely rework things on defense, but
you know, it is encouraging to see signs that he
is able to get out of his ways. I think

(25:16):
the Steelers have an advantage on both lines. How those
match up. I honestly don't know what the hell the
differences between Aaron Rodgers and Mason Rudolph. I mean, somebody
tell me. I mean, Rogers has been god awful, so like,
what's the difference. I guess give me the guy who
doesn't have a broken hand in one of his hands.
I mean, you know that seems fine. The Bears overall
continue to just underwhelm me. I mean, I feel like

(25:39):
I've had stuck watching this team a lot, just based
on some of our picks, and I don't know, I
don't see it. I mean, I know, the headlining stuff
is how lucky they're getting, and I mean, but that
checks out with like when I watch them, I mean,
Caleb's all over the place all the time. Like I
just don't I don't really see it. I think this

(26:00):
are enough competition, good enough defensively, Yeah, they do what
they do, and they do what they do on offense,
and they're not really gonna go too far downfield and whatever.
I don't know, but this feels like it should be
one and a half, not two and a half. So
I'm gonna take the two and a half. I'm gonna
ride with the Steelers here, and I'm gonna fade this
Bears team. Listen, maybe this Bears team at the end
of the day is just like you know, the Vikings

(26:21):
of the past, or even the Chiefs, which are getting
some flock now where they just won every close game. Ever,
maybe that's just how it's gonna shake out for the
Bears this year. But I kind of want to fade
that too.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
The positive for the Bears to say that was the
Patriots for like ten years too. By the way, the
Bears are.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Good all the right things like second and past block
win rate, fifth in rum block win rate, similar good
numbers and adjusted zach array twelfth and third in adjusted lineyards.
So like they're good at all the good things. They're
also on top of that getting super lucky in these
spots to actually win and cover. By the way, Josh Allen,

(26:57):
he's nflnymar that guy. If you when you guys see
the high.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I was gonna say that ship. This shit is embarrassing, dude.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Did you see?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Did you three? Yeah, he's rolling around crying basically on
the field like somebody shot him.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I mean, this is a joke, dude. I hope Josh.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Allen never wins a fucking meaningful game.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Dude, what an asshole.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
I was like this he's I was like, there's no
way this guy didn't break his hand to wrist on
that play. The way he reacted from getting back old
But now he's fine. It's just unbelievable. Speaking of unbelievable,
I couldn't believe it last week when Brett turned his

(27:41):
back on his guy, Jamis Winston, who did the damn
thing covered against the Packers nearly one outright, and now
and now I'm the only one back on Jamis plus
ten in Detroit. It's low, Okay, I have zero confidence points.

(28:05):
It is low, but he just introduces so much variance
that I can see a world where inside the Giants
are down two touchdowns, Jamis scores the most meaningless touchdown
at the end because he's continuing to chuck it and
the Giants get to cover again. No confidence points. I

(28:27):
don't love it. But there's just something stinky about Campbell
having to manage the game and call plays at the
same time. Something is just a little bit off in Detroit. Nonetheless,
DP is of course the highest on Detroit.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
What's off about that?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
They were awful?

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I mean This is a great bounce back spot for
the Lions when they might just hang fifty on this
other team, because that's what the Lions do after bad losses,
bad weeks. They come out and blow doors and they
don't slow down. And you know what, they can do
it here by running the ball because the Giants are
freaking god awful at stopping the run, so they might
just line up and just run for three hundred yards

(29:09):
and call it a day.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
This is all fair. If you're betting Detroit. We say
this all the time in these spots. Just bet the Alts.
Find find a minus fourteen and a half, find a
minus seventeen and a half. If you're going to bet Detroit,
don't bet the minus ten. Bet something massive. And yeah,
I could certainly see a world where that happens. So
I'm not going to put up very much resistance, just

(29:31):
like I'm not gonna put very much resistance in this
car Panthers at Niners. I took the seven points with
the Panthers because the Niners can't stop anybody. Do I
want to take Carolina off of a win, No, absolutely not.
Do I want to take them all the way across
the country, No? Do I think that Brock Party coming

(29:54):
back looked like Brock Party, and this Niners offense was
humming last week, and they might just absolutely shred this
Carolina defense, which is twenty fourth in DPA depending the pass.
Of course, this is in the range of outcomes, but
this is just too good of a number, the full
seven getting with Carolina for me to not click them
in a contest. The one bit I do have in

(30:16):
this game is I have over I think I got
forty seven and a half because every Niners game has
to have a five every from here on out, every
total and every nine Ers game has to have a
five next to it because the Niners can score thirty
at the drop of a hat now that Perty is back,
and they can't stop anybody from scoring points. So I'm

(30:39):
happy to have this over DP once again on the
other side, with the Niners in his top five.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I mean, do you want to back Bryce Young after
throwing four hundred and fifty yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions,
looking like he's the fucking greatest thing in the world,
Like you want to do that too? I mean, listen,
I'll give you that this forty nine Ers defense is
not that good, but I think we've seen plenty of
times what happens with Bryce, specifically when he's at home

(31:05):
and Bryce when he's on the road. I mean, this
Niners defense can get got. Yes, they're still gonna play
their asses off and play super hard, and I'm not
just gonna be like, Yeah, the Carolina offense is amazing.
You mentioned perty, I mean they got pers all back
to that helped open up the offense. Kittles on a
freaking tear. We know what CMC can do. This Carolina
defense cannot cover anyone, So they're gonna score a million

(31:29):
points as far as I'm concerned, I mean everything you
said is why I'm on the forty nine ers here,
like literally everything that you said. So I guess have
your fun over there with your.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Lone wolf having zero fun. The rules of the game
is you have to put an X next to a team,
and I put an X next to it with zero volition.
The people keep it with you, and we'll keep it
with a staple. Because you were laying the three and
a half points on the road with the Phildelphia Eagles.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah, you guys know, I love my Eagles. Come on,
this Eagles defense is a problem, right, now they are
so so, so good, and I imagine that that unit
is going to give Dak and this offense plenty of issues.
And I know it's probably easy. I can already hear
most saying it passing offense, passing offense, passing offense. I mean, okay,

(32:21):
but that passing offense has to go against a really
good defense. And on the other side, why can't the
Eagles offense and passing offense do halfway decent against this
horrible Dallas defense. I mean, Da Dallas's d has looked
better in recent weeks. They played the Raiders last week,
and then they had a buye before that, and they
played the Cardinals before that. I mean, it's not like

(32:43):
this team like that's deceptive to me, Like, yeah, they're
playing a little bit better. They're playing shitty ass teams,
so of course they're gonna look better and rank better
and all that sort of stuff. This number is way
too short, so let's go Eagles.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
This was a game. I mean, every single person who
has microphones, who touts, who says anything, has talked about
betting the Cowboys this week, which is the exact reason
why I put an next next to it and put
it low, but that did not deter more Mow nor
Brett from putting it in there. Top five Mo talk
about them boys.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, Donnie's completely right. The Eagles are I mean the
Dallas offense it's good, and the Eagles. Dallas's defense can
only get stops against bad offenses. But guess what, guys,
the Eagles are bad offense. They suck, they have a

(33:43):
bad quarterback and they can't run the ball. And now
they're all universe. Right, tackle is out, so maybe the
center too. I mean, that guy who came in looked
like a bum behind Jerky. He was committing penalties. I
didn't even watch that whole game, really, but I saw
not some not great play from that guy who came
in behind Jurgens. So yeah, I mean, I just this

(34:07):
is an idiotic number. The problem is everyone knows it's
an idiotic number. It's already three. So I mean, this
is top five selection.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I think Brett on the Mega Turbo chalk as well
in your top five.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, I know, I know, but it's just it's just wrong.
Like this, This Eagles offense might be as broken as
it's ever looked in the Hurts era. The rhythm that
defined this team last year is just nowhere to be found.
Like they can't string a single drive together. And now,
as most said, without two offensive linemen, that's a big

(34:46):
deal when your quarterback refuses to throw into tight windows.
So the offense is obviously a big problem. Dallas's defense, Yeah,
it's starting to look a little competent again. The reinforcements
if they've kind of changed the shape of this unit. Wilson,
Quinn Williams, Overshown, both safeties are active, so they defense

(35:07):
finally has some teeth for the first time in like months.
So yeah, I like tell us a lot here. I
think I probably would have put this at the top
of my card if it wasn't going to be the
most chalky play of the week.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, I got to keep your eyes out for Cam Jurgens.
He's in the protocol. He was a limited participant today,
so I think with a full tomorrow on Friday, he
could get cleared for the game. But still without Lane Johnson,
this unit is not the same. And like you said,
the return of both overshown and the trade for Quinn
Williams has I mean, in one game, has made a

(35:40):
massive made a massive difference. And of course it is
the Raiders, right, But Cowboys look good on defense. I'll
see if they can replicate it again this week. Double
Sounder to close out dp's lone Wolves as he's got
the Jacksonville Jaguars laying three points on the road at

(36:03):
the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, I mean this is low. I don't really know
what to say here other than I think the Jaguars
can just run on this team. I think they look
like they're kind of just kind of coming together. Jacoby
Myers looks like he's gelling well with Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I don't have much here at all. I don't think
much of this Cardinals team. If you guys have a
big opinion on the other side, you know, by all
means take.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
It another Donnie Vick in Bratz top five. He's got
the Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, this to me is an undervalued Arizona team coming
off a really stinky loss against the Jacksonville team that's
being priced now like a contender. But Jacksonville, to me,
has no business laying a full field goal on the road.
Like three weeks ago they were in Vegas, didn't even
close minus three against the Raiders, a clean a team
that is clearly worse than the Cardinals to me, and

(36:56):
now we're getting the same price on the road against
a much better offense in a tough place to play.
I'm not sure enough has changed in a couple of
weeks to warrant that market sentiment. I think Arizona's gonna
be able to move the ball here. The Jaguars bottom
five in past defense success rate. They are the biggest
pass funnel in the league. Moe will tell you who

(37:19):
don't the Jaguars cover. They don't cover tight ends. Kelsey
Bauers shredded this defense and now Trey McBride is next up.
So I think Brissett is gonna have another big week
this week. His weapons had been fine outside of McBride too.
I mean, Michael Wilson had a monster game last week,
so I think they're gonna be okay. I capped this
closer to a pick than minus three, so I think

(37:40):
this is wildly off and the market is just too
high on Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Cardinals were averites. I'm gonna look ahead minus one and
a half, and we know that's not baking in Kyler
right because there's he's on ir so there's no right
there's no chance of return, right, So four and a
half points off of the Jags winning one football game

(38:05):
by a lot like, Yeah, they looked tremendous against the Chargers,
no doubt, but that is a massive swing for a
football team. That is just okay. I mean, the biggest
fear is what Donnie was saying for me, honestly, Like
Liam Cohen and Moe was on this early, Liam Cohen
has been scheming it up in the running game and
Arizona definitely struggles defending the run. So it is I'm

(38:29):
worried about seeing these Jaguars running backs scamper for big ones,
but I just I trust Jakobe and like you said,
the tight end funnel that the Jags have Tray McBride
is that guy train McBride could do what Michael Wilson
did last week, honestly and have like fifteen catches for
damn near two hundred yards. So I love the Cardinals

(38:52):
as well, also appearing in my top five, Mo is
doing what did last week, albeit not with the same
amount of fervor. Taking JJ McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings
as they travel to the Vikings are getting six and

(39:16):
a half points well, both of your lone wolves are low,
but you have to pick up the shield.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Nonetheless, I don't know what to say here other than
I initially cap this one very high and then I
took a closer look. And my concern here, I guess,
is a very high pressure defense playing against a quarterback
that I just don't think is good under pressure. Man,
every time I watch Jordan Love the games, where he
struggles is basically when he doesn't get his feet set

(39:44):
in the pocket. I think he's just a bad quarterback
on the move. So if you can get him off
his spot, I think it's going to be not ideal.
That being said, man, it's really hard to to overstate.
Can we just rewind the clock real quick and just

(40:06):
did he have an out of body experience against the Lions?
Because other than that one game, he's literally been the
worst quarterback in the NFL. He's literally at the bottom
of the EPA CPOE stuff. I'm baffled what happened in
that game. If that player could come back, then then
I could see the Vikings covering this very easily. But

(40:30):
he has been an abomination the last few weeks.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
If I recall, I don't think he yeah, he was
just like the Bears game where he's strung together a
couple drives. JJ was still minus point six point one
six epa per plague in that Lions game, so it
was just like a couple of plays where he did
the damn thing. But on the whole he was horrific
because he's been horrific all season. And the Vikings have

(40:59):
had a ton of sss like they always do, blitzing
and getting to the quarterback, but I think they've been
a bit of a paper tiger against the run, which
is why I think Josh Jacob's perhaps not playing most
likely not playing is kind of annoying because I feel
like if he was in there, I think the Packers
could just kind of run straight and be okay in

(41:22):
this game because they know the quarterback on the other
side is just so so bad. So the Packers snuck
into my top five at the bottom. I think this.
I think this should be seven. But it's just a
week where I don't love a lot of things, and
I think there's enough stink on the Packers where in

(41:44):
a contest like this, I even as bad as McCarthy
has been, I don't know how many people are gonna
line up to lay this many points with the Packers.
But then again, JJ has been that bad that people
might just be happy selecting Green Bay, So not much
resistance there. You're not going to get a lot of
resistance on this last one here, which is going to

(42:06):
get us out of the lone wolf segment, and it
is your beloved Kansas City Chiefs playing host to the
Indianapolis Colts. The Chiefs are three and a half point
favorites in the contest, and you're the only one to
put an X next to Danny Dimes.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, this is the exact same game as last week.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Everyone in the world thinks the Chiefs are just have
to win the game, so they have to be minus
three and a half against a team of the Pulse
that has a good passing offense, and Spagnolo has been
kind of bad this year, so I mean, I don't know.

(42:48):
I think there's a few points in the Chiefs favor
One of them is that they have a history of
limiting these very, very very good running backs who are
trucking everybody else in the league. It doesn't really matter
what the Chief's numbers are, but they tend to do
pretty good against these guys and then just this defense
has been way better at home. So yeah, I could

(43:10):
see the Chiefs rolling here. I could see them also
losing because they just refuse to stop going out there
and taking dumps on the field. So your guess is
as good as mine on this one.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
This cap just comes down to what do bad quarterbacks
do in Arrowhead? They crumble like a cookie. The Colts
offense has feasted on the thirtiesiest schedule in football so far.
Now they have a very tough test going to Arrowhead.
All that being said, I'm not the highest on this.

(43:43):
Brett is. Brett has it very low. So you can
tell from the tenor of the three of us that
we don't have a very strong opinion on Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah. For me, it's Daniel Jones on the road, and
he's been a different quarterback on the road this year.
Ten touchdowns, two picks at home. I've touchdowns, five interceptions
on the road. And now the injury. Is that a thing?
I don't know? I do I do? Maybe I just
keep getting sucked into this casey with their backs against
the wall thing, But like maybe they're just bad. Maybe

(44:15):
I'll just keep getting these games wrong, But like I
still believe in Mahomes and read in a spot like
this at home where they really have to win to
stay in the playoff hunts. So that's that's part of
the cap for me. Embarrassed to say it, but I
still think that's a.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Thing something must win.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I mean, they're right in that territory now.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Moe's got the Vikings and Colts, Donnie's got the Eagles
and Jags. I've got the Bears, Giants and Panthers. All right, guys,
we're crawling on our hands and knees shining to get
to the mint cash. Let's put together another winning.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
Card nine eight six, five four three two one fire.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I am up first. I'm putting a split game on
the card for a second consecutive week, and we are
laying six and a half points on the road against
Joe Burrow with the New England Patriots. Let's go, let's

(45:35):
go leverage. I hope tomorrow Joe Burrow is announced as
a starter. I hope this falls to five. I will
still happily lay the six and a half against a
guy who can't move throwing to half of his elite receivers.
Let's go, Pats. Mo, you're up next. You've got a
home dog.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I've got the better passing offense, passing offense, passing offense,
and Dallas plus three and a half is that passing offense?
And yeah, another thing, I just I didn't even say
this before, but like, dude, this this defense did a
fine job against the Eagles. Last time these teams played.
I understand that was Week one, but.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
It's also a fake game. It stopped playing for like
two hours.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
The weirdest game, guys getting ejected to.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Veto for like seventy two hours.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Here, buddy, all right, mister Veto, You're up next, and
in true Donny fashion, you are laying some wood.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. You're a laying wood.
I had to outdo you, and I had to lay
more minus seven forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Let's go something, Bryce Young off of four hundred yards passing,
all right, DP, all right, Brett bring us back to
earth with a very collective selection.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Too many good quarterbacks. I got to break it to
on a notch. I'm taking Jacoby Brissette and the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, this is very Drake may Dak Prescott brock Purty
Murderers rote from the Collective this week until this big.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
The Collective chooses the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
The whole world knew it. Not wearing my watch, but
we're doing to watch Selly something. Shurs Andrews is on
the car. Look, people, they put a minus four next
to the Las Vegas Raiders. That's it, that's the cap.

(47:57):
That's the entire gap. Okay, the Las Vegas Raiders. This
is just trenches on both sides of the ball. Everyone
is going to be looking at the fact that Shere
Sanders is playing quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, and nobody
is going to be paying attention to the fact that
the only good down lineman on both sides of the

(48:18):
ball for the Raiders is Max Crosby. That's it. It's
him and nine clowns that play on the line. So
if the Browns defense can travel, which unfortunately is something
that it's kind of struggled to do, if the Browns
defense can travel, we gotta be able to stay within
four points, right.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Mo I certainly hope. So, I mean the total in
this game is like thirty seven, and they put the
they put not only did they put a minus sign
next to the Raiders name they put a minus sign
with a number that's greater than three. I mean, this
Raiders team is atrocious, man, you can't be any worse.

(49:09):
This is one of the worst teams I have ever
laid eyes on, and they're minus four, and everyone thinks
that it's justified because Shader came in in a spot
where he was never ever expecting to play pro football
and face the Ravens defense, which is getting way healthier
and better on the road with zero prep. Okay, so

(49:34):
if he can do anything with an actual week of
practice reps. You have two teams that are both awful basically,
but one of them has some things they do well,
which they Browns have a very good running back and
they have a very good defense. So good luck with
the worst offensive line in the business blocking Miles Garrett.

(49:56):
I shudder to think what is going to happen to
Gino in this game?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
The ones that everybody's floating around Shader Sanders minus thirty
four point eight cpo E the second lost blah blah
blah blah blah. But everybody knows this and it's all
bagged into the number, and yet still there are eighty
three percent of the handle is laying more than a

(50:22):
field goal with the Las Vegas rates.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Cool, guys, guys, why why did this move two and
a half points off the look ahead? We're talking about
Dylan Gabriel, who we've been saying it is the worst
starting quarterback in the league for two months. Is Sanders worse?
Are we sure? I don't think he is one percent worse?
I don't think. I don't think it's possible. Two things.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
One, did you watch him play last week? And what
Mo said is alarming to me. Now listen, I picked
the freaking Browns and I agree with everything you guys
are saying. The fact that he, in his wildest dreams,
did not look an ounce prepared to play football when
he is the backup is a bit alarming. Okay, I
mean injuries happened, this is professional football, Like, at least

(51:12):
have half a clue back there should do?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Come on, man, Okay, let me just say Inshauder's defense.
I was listening to one of the pods this week
and they were saying, basically, he has like not taking
a rep in practice this year, not one zeros.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Well it looks like it is.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, this is his first week of being a pro
football player.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Though, I think, man, I think can I think he's
a fine enough arm Just make it easy. Get some
one reads out here, right.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
This is rule of coaches numbers.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah, we'll call hm up.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Say buddy, that guy with the tattoos, the white guy,
Crosby quadruple team. I don't give a shit. No one
else can do a damn thing on this defense.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Is it about another thing too? Just like coaches like
Stefanski actually has a clue. Yes, Carol is done. Man,
I cannot believe how bad he is.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah, this this The Raiders are horrendous, horrendous at football
and they're minus four. I can't with this line. There
is one consensus s game, Miss Brett. Just saw that live.
Oh buddy, did you take it all the way back? Wow?

(52:35):
Flag on the play? Though, so did Josh Allen pick
six flag on the play. There is one consensus pick
that did not make the card for me. This plus
what is it thirteen and a half in the contest.
I'm seeing fourteen's already in real life. Thirteen and a

(52:57):
half in the contest this scheme, I don't I don't know.
I don't know what to do with this number. Because
the Jets defense was bottom ten with Quinn Williams and
Sauce Gardner. I fear that it is going to be
bottom three, bottom two without them. I'll say it again,

(53:19):
the Patriots looked like they treated Thursday night last week
like a scrimmage. They looked like they were out there
in shorts, just like doing a walkthrough, and they were
able to cover ten and a half with ease on
a down to down basis. They looked very very very sleepy,
very sleepy. But then every single third down, in every
single higher leverage situation, they got chunk plays and they

(53:42):
got first downs. What are the Ravens going to do
with Lamar and Derrick Henry against this Jets defense? I
have my concerns where I don't have my concerns and
where I do have real American dollars on the Jets
t total over fourteen and a half. I think the

(54:04):
Jets are going to go out and score in this
game because everything that I'm seeing from an all twenty
two cut up perspective is guys are getting open for
the Jets, and Justin Fields just can't complete forward passes
in pro football. So I think Tyrod is going to

(54:25):
meet the baseline necessary to make some throws, and I
think the Jets offense is going to be okay in
this game. The other thing is this offensive line. You're
going to see a lot of grading, a lot of
pressure ratings, even the suggested sack grate blaring red thirty
two of thirty two. But the problem is is all

(54:46):
of these metrics don't have a time element to them.
So when you're giving up sacks three seconds after the
ball is snapped, you were getting the same demerit as
if you gave up a sack one second after the
ball was snapped. And I don't think it's indicative at
all of the level of line play that the Jets

(55:06):
are exhibiting. So I think they're gonna be able to
protect it. I think Tyrod's gonna be able to make
some throws. And to be honest, this just comes down
to what's the Jets defense gonna do. Are they able
to get stops? Moth does? Moe's got the Jets. Mo
thinks they will. He's got the Jets and to stop five.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, this is the one I thought you were one
hundred percent going to be on the other side. I
never in a million years in that I would have
laid minus five hundred you were going to take the Ravens.
But I just I think this is multiple points too
high because of what you were saying kind of so
I do. I'm with you that Tyrod I think could
provide a boost to this offense, especially in a situation

(55:45):
where you're expected to be behind and playing in a
negative script, and especially on the road. But the other
thing that I just keeps in my mind with this
Ravens team is what are gonna play a good game?
Why should I believe the Ravens can beat somebody by
double digits right now? Like they came out three like

(56:08):
pretty unimpressive games. Since Lamar came back, Man, is Lamar
gonna get his head out of his ass? My fantasy
teams want to know you suck so far this year? Man,
Like he came in, got a couple free touchdowns against
the Dolphins from turnovers and just like getting his ass
kicked up and down the field basically by the Browns,

(56:32):
I mean, took an entire half to get anything in
gear basically against the Vikings. I just I need to
see Lamar start dropping back and completing passes. This guy
looks same as Josh Allen. He looks nowhere near MVP Lamar.
So until I see that, I just cannot buy into

(56:53):
this team laying this many points. The Ravens are getting
treated like the Ravens of the last two years with
some of these lines, and I just can't get behind it.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Man. The other thing is with this Burrow scuttle butt.
They have the Bengals on Sunday Night football next week?
Is there a chance that the Ravens are kind of
peeking forward to a divisional matchup?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Is that Thursday?

Speaker 1 (57:18):
And I'm seeing five? Oh yeah, it's Thanksgiving that's right? Wow?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, Thanksgiving much shorter?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
So yeah, So just get out of this game and
get ready for Burrow.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
They don't need to win by margin, right, these guys
they get nothing extra if they win by one or
if they win by twenty one, right, So just get
to Cincinnati healthy, get to Thursday healthy. I think that
plays into this as well. So I'm happy with my
my Jets team total fourteen and fourteen and a half

(57:49):
in twenty twenty five. I mean it's being priced like
Fields is playing quarterback, like a guy who can't complete
forward passes is playing quarterback. So I'm very happy with that.
All right, Browns, Pats, Cowboys, Niners, Cardinals. As always, there
could be tinkering. Friday is a big news day, a
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Speaker 3 (58:43):
As long as it's a drunk cast.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Drunk cash buddy, you might be the only one who
drinks anymore.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I'll crack one out Tuesday. How it's it's too early?

Speaker 1 (58:59):
I mean I can went on. I have literally no plants.
Can anybody not do ones?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
What's the date?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
It is? The yeah? Seeing nods? All right, Live production
meeting adjourned now again follow Agard on Gamble or it'll
just pop up in your feed. You'll be you'll be
getting up on Thursday. You'll have to go make that

(59:27):
two hour trip to the place you really don't want
to go to eat the food you really don't want
to eat. But kardon Gamble's gonna pop up in the
feed and get you where you need to be. All right,
enjoy the football this weekend. Best of luck in your
bedding ventures out