December 12, 2025 • 61 mins
The byes are over, and there are 15 games, but somehow The Collective have zero consensus picks. Gulp.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome back to Great ire Cambele, the only podcast
that puts its money where its mouth is. I'm your host,
rich Ron and I'm joined by two members of the collective,
the Disciple Brett Coulson and the Resident Moose himself mo Nowara.
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Donnie is battling something poker right now in the WPT
Prime Championship. At last check he had about forty big
blinds and he was actually saved. By the way, if
you're watching this on YouTube, please like the video subscribe
to the channel listeners rating review on your podcatcher of
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choice five stars only, like Jon Robinson, who's currently tied
seven seven on Thursday Night Football Falcon Bucks. But DP
was saved because of the old live read somebody did
a literal teddy KGV at his table. They played a
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hand earlier today where the fella three bet shoved queens.
Excuse me, Donnie four bet shoved queens and the fella
who three bet before he called started fumbling with his
phone to record with pocket Queens. The queens hold up
against Donnie's tens, the pot is shipped his way. Later on,
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DP raises with the pocket queens himself. Phone man three
bets somebody else four bet shoves, and before Donnie can act,
my guy starts fumbling with his phone. Donnie notices this,
pitches the Queens into the muck, and my guy calls
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with the pocket king and hold. So, all you guys
out there playing the poker, you want to film your hands,
You want to make sure that they get on your
Instagram reels, anybody who has a sweat of you, any
of the evidence. Maybe you should wait until all the
action is completed before you wizards, before you get the
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video record app out. I'm rambling a little bit because
we had a very sour two and three in circa
Sports million, poor Mo. We talked Mo off of the
ledge of selecting the Kansas City Chiefs because we knew
it was going to be popular. It was the most
popular selection in the contest last week, and of course
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the Chiefs do not win, let alone cover against the Texans,
and Moe flipped a literal coin between the selection that
he made or I guess that fate made the Atlanta
Falcons plus seven or the Tennessee Titans plus four and
a half, and the coin came up Falcons, So we
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lost the literal coin flip there, but I was able
to flip from uh oh, I basically had no pick,
but I flipped to the second best leverage pick of
the week, which was the Minnesota Viking. Sue, did they
did Minnesota win? Did they win? Outright?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They won by a mile?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
What did that contest go? Thirty one? Zap? In Minnesota?
Everybody was just spilling over themselves to get a gimpy
Jaden Daniels onto the card, a man who didn't even
make it out of the first half as the quarterback
for the formerly Washington Racial Slurs, formerly football team, now Commies.
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But all that being said, were still only a half
game out. There's still a lot to play for. Basically,
if we go three and two out, we're going to
cash in this thing, and for what amount? Who knows?
But Mo, Mo is just mo, Can you give the
people just a taste of of how you've been in
the group? Chat?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, I already know what the final result is, So
I'm just I just told you guys, he's got the screw.
Pointless to even put in a pick, really, because twelve
years of evidence tells me as soon as things are
going well, the light at the end of the tunnel
becomes a train, and we get smashed in the face,
and we finish forty percent for the last month and
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then we get nothing. What's it called, Charlie in the
chocolate factory? You get nothing? Fuck you get out. I mean,
that's what's gonna happen. I know what's what's gonna happen.
It already started happening multiple weeks ago. Last week it
happened some more. I mean, let's be honest. As much
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as the Eagles was miserable, that was the right side.
I mean, the Chargers couldn't get a yard and they
still and they still won. So thank you, Jalen hurts.
You stink, And I hope dan Orlowski is on a
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public apology tour. I'm guessing he's not, but he should be.
For those offseason takes that was embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I was gonna read verbatim your train line because that
was the best part about the light in the tunnel
ends up being a train. But all right, mo all
we need again three and two the rest of the way.
Just some body blows and we'll be in the money.
And if we heat up we put together some four
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and ones, we can still win this thing. By the way,
if we five and oho out. We are the winners.
What is disgusted at any thought of optimism. Let's get
into the football. I'm I made a mistake in extending
this intro because we have fifteen games, many of which
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are split contests, because we have zero consensus picks this week,
and we will start with one of the marquee matchups
of the week. It's Lions at Rams. Both of those
animals make that sound. This nearly made everybody's top five
because I'm the lowest and I have this game bubbling
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my top five. But the biggest opinion comes from mister Manati,
who unsurprisingly is fading Dan Campbell.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know, I'm not sure people are paying close enough
attention to just how ravaged this Lion's secondary is right now.
Branch is out for the year, Kirby Joseph downgraded in
practice on Thursday, which is not encouraging. This is the
second straight year that lack of attrition on the defense
has created problems for Detroit, and unfortunately they're running out
of time and that's might be the end because now
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they play the Rams, probably the best team in the
NFL an offense that is humming stef effort McVeigh. This,
This passing game punishes and experienced defensive backs like they
just get Detroit just gave up four hundred and twenty
five yards to a Dallas offense that didn't have Ceedee
lamp for half the game. They won, but it took
an enormous effort to do it. It was a max
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output performance. And when teams are stretched this thin, they
have to empty the tank to survive. And I feel
like this is the week the following week where it breaks.
And I think coaching is a huge piece here too.
McVeigh knows golf as well as anyone better than probably
Golf's current coaches know him, so a lot of familiarity there,
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which means in laid down, short yarded situations, I think
Campbell's aggressiveness could come back to haunt him, and the
Rams offense could stop Detroit in short fields if you
know they can't convert in short yardage a high levelge situation.
So I think LA's going to score a lot here,
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and I don't think Detroit has the horsepower to trade
punches with La for four quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I to him on the Rams. I actually have a
Rams and over ticket in my account. This line secondary
is just completely gone. Bryan Branch out for the season.
Kirby Joseph tried to make a go of it. He
tried to practice on Wednesday and then came up as
a dnp here on Thursday. So they have no safeties.
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They have the corpse of DJ Reid out there, former
Jet legend. I'm very happy they let him walk. Never
ever give undersized cornerbacks a third contract. That is one
of a rule that should be etched in stone in
this league. He was getting a clown suit stitched on
him in every one on one situation in that Cowboys game.
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And it's not to mention that George Pickens was basically
completely checked out in that game, and yet the Cowboys
passing attack had so much success. We've seen this Rams
team clown much lesser opponents on the defensive end than
what the Lions are going to try it out on Sunday.
So yeah, I think the Lions are going to have
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their way on offense. But Mo is on Detroit Motor City.
Donnie is two in his top five, but he can't
speak for himself, but Mo pick up the torch for
Dan Campbell and Nimbles.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, the why the Lions beat the Cowboys. Is it
because they scored forty four points because they were playing
indoors with Jared Goff and a pretty good offense. I
don't know, maybe they could just score some more points
against the Rams too, well.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Is that the Cowboys defense? Is that Cowboys defense bottom
five at everything?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, it's pretty badly not bottom five stop.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Fine, they're fine. They're just run of the mill, below
average team.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I just I just pulled it up now thirty then
past the.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's over the fall season though, irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Man, they're fine for the last month. They're just fine.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like, you're right. No, No, you're absolutely right. They're fine
when they play the Vegas Raiders, they're fine when they
play the Ghosts of the Kansas City Chiefs. You're right
there completely.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They can still rush the passer. Matt Stafford is bad still,
if you have any pressure on him, it's still stinks.
This is the weirdest multi pressure on him. He sinks
one person who can even threaten the defense. Yes, there's
a lot of injuries. This is also Detroit extra time
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to prepare, Dan Campbell extra time to prepare. And isn't
this the game where you want Dan Campbell to be
a lunatic.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Brett's making that out to be a bad thing. And
then yeah, they'll have a plenty of stuff cooked up.
I think for this one, Dan Campbell definitely will. I
would expect some trick plays and just way way better
playmakers on the turf man for for Detroit, just way
better playmakers than what the Rams have out there. Slow
running backs, injured Davante Adams at best and uh yeah,
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Detroit much better receiving corps and uh and running backs.
So I think they can keep this within reason. This
this line is two points too high for me.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So this is what they could field. This is GoF
on the road against a fronts that can get.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
To the road. Yeah, terrifying place to play.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
This is. This is GoF on the road indoors against
a defense that can get to the quarterback without blitzing
thirtieth and blitz rates seventh in adjusted Zach Ray. This
is this is GoF throwing at seven guys in coverage
with pressure, his brain melting and making mistakes. That's what
this is this and that's what Gough has done in
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this spot for his entire career. So I don't see
why why this would be any different this next one.
We go from a very exciting indoor, high flying affair
to Browns at Bears, a game on the lake which
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is going to have frigid temperatures. And I got to
give you guys props. Last week. Nobody said it, but
the cap for the Browns was they quit their defense,
quit it was over. They let the Titans score thirty
points against them. And it's two weeks in a row
now that the Browns have been scored on. So if
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it's quit season, if the only thing that holds this
team together is going to quit, and we know that
they only perform at home, aren't they going to go
to Chicago and just get waxed by Ben Johnson? Of
course Brett doesn't think so, because Brett has been fading
the Bears all season and it's happening once again in
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Week fifty. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Look, Chicago has earned some market respect with the win
in Philly, and they played Green Bay really close last week.
But I'm sticking to the thought that this is not
a team built especially to win games by margin, which
they're going to have to do here. They have three
wins all season by more than seven points. Now they're
links seven and a half against a defense that, yeah,
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maybe they have given up, but we know what the
ceiling is with this Browns defense. This is Shudur Sandsers's
first real rod test. But Chicago can't rush the passer
the twenty eighth and pressure rate, So the Browns can
stick with what worked. You know, Quick Quick throws a
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heavy dose of quin Shawn Jenkins in the run game,
and I think this is a perfect matchup to run
the ball to Chicago thirty eighth in yards per carry allowed,
one of the worst tackling teams in the league, which
gets even more exposed in cold weather. So I think
with a proper game plan here, Chicago or Cleveland can
keep this. I'm a close cha guy was also banged
up in the secondary two Kyler Gordon Mamos again, Tyrek Stevenson,
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Jalen Johnson's still on a snapcount, I think, So I
think there's enough here for Cleveland to keep this within
a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Mo has no opinion, but he has a strong opinion
on this next one. Vikings at Cowboys. The Cowboys are
minus five and a half in the contest, and Moe
is interested in fading JJ McCarthy off of a thirty
one point victor.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, he just played a fake game against a fake defense.
Look at the rest of his season. He's the worst.
And then you have a Minnesota defense that is grading
out very well. But I think is a bit of
a cupcake masher in the sense of like they just
exploit bad quarterbacks and like coaches who can't prepare for
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Brian Flores' stupid tricks. But I'm impressed with what this
Dallas staff is cooked up this year. And they have
a veteran quarterback who I just watched replace every blitz
Steve Spagnolo threw at him. So I just feel like
Dallas should be probably seven point favorites here against a
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horrific Minnesota team on offense that yes, they finally scored
some points, but look at all their games before that.
They are struggling to get to twenty on a good day,
and they're facing a real offense with a real quarterback
and a real passing game.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I just.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Sell JJ McCarthy immediately to me. I just if he
has two good games in a row, I guess I'll
just pay for it. I mean, I don't understand why
Dallas is only five and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
For what it's worth. I like Dallas a lot too,
but I do think they're going to be popular. Hair
short of six.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Eighty six percent of the handle on the Dallas Cowboys,
And you know, it's a good recipe for an offense
that's struggling playing indoors against a bottom five defense. It's
the Dallas Cowboys half. So the market obviously loves the
Vikings coming off the seven, but I think at this
number short of that, I think the contest will buy
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back into to Dallas. But yeah, I put an next
next to Minnesota, but I cannot in good faith put
JJ McCarthy. McCarthy, excuse me off of a thirty one
point victory anywhere near my stop.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Dude, he has an alien at wide receiver and he
can't even get him a target. I mean, this guy
is incapable of throwing the ball more than eight yards downfield.
The Dallas is just gonna put their whole This secondary
is terrible, but they're just gonna put their whole defense
at the line of scrimmage rightfully.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So okay, I feel like I'm getting deja vu literally,
these two games in a row this first one, especially
because the culture traveling to Seattle, where the Hawks are
thirteen and a half point favorites, I feel like it's
happening again. There's a team just going to Seattle without
a quarterback. I've seen this story before, and not only so.
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Here are the options for the Indianapolis Goults. They either
play something Riley Leonard QB, power ass unprofessioned ass quarterback
who cannot complete forward passes.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Or.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I mean, they can't actually play Philip Rivers, right. I
heard this theme today from Adam Schefter was that they're
going in the directions you can't. It is malpractice to
put Philip Rivers on a football field against the Seattle Seahawks. Regardless,
this number has to be north of fourteen points. The
Hawks are just gonna do it again. They're just gonna
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cram another team that can't function. The Colts have nobody
in the secondary anymore. Sauces out ward is out. Disaster
time for Indy and they're just gonna get mushed again.
And once again Brett doesn't believe in the Hawks mushing
and has the cults bubbling is top five.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, this is just putting my trust in Shane Steichen
with a I mean, the guy's Hall of Famer, Like,
he's not gonna do anything too stupid, He's not gonna
do anything extra.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Stop it. Can you cannot just say he's a fault.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Actually believe you don't actually believe he's gonna play, do you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
He is going to do the way Adam shipped something?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Riley Leonard, I thought he actually didn't embarrass himself last week.
I refuse to believe somebody if if Philip Rivers actually plays,
then I have to change my pick. But I just
refuse to believe that's gonna happen. Well, so who are
you on that something?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Leonard?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
He was fine last week. He was throwing decent passes
and getting first down. I thought he was. I thought
he had no chance to be a professional. Okay, and
he actually didn't embarrass himself, I thought so. I think
with Psichin he can actually score a few points and
that's probably all they need to cover that. I think
there's multiple points between something Riley Leonard and the corpse
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of phil I we joke about the court, No, this
is the course. This is actually the corpse. You can't
put him you down the field.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You don't know yet we haven't seen him in five years.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I was blown away. I was blown away when I
went back and looked at that season and he was
eighth in ABA for play. Because my mind's eye was
do I did I save the sounder? Oh no, I
didn't save it was He's just gonna dump it off
to Nahaim Heines. That was just my That's all I remembered,
was just him throwing checkdown to Nahim Heines. But no,
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he's eighth in the EPA per play. But this is crazy.
He shouldn't even dress. Someone needs to be thrown in jail,
and this guy goes on to one.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm completely with it. That's why I'm refusing to believe
this is a real thing. I don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But on the other side, what's aren't the Hawks scoring thirty?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Here?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
This Colts defense is dust?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Why are the Hawks scoring thirty? Though?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Man, they because they always score thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We say that every week.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We say that every week, though, no, come on, last
week was a joke that we say that every week.
They struggled to If Max Brosmer wasn't handing them points,
they would have scored like sixteen points in that You're right,
if you score sixteen. It's really hard to cover thirteen
and a half or whatever this line was. I can't
even remember what it was, but it's really hard, really
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really hard.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
All right. Speaking of Brosmer, the New York Jets traveled
to Jacksonville to take on the Jaguars. Ah Like the Hawks,
the Jags are thirteen and a half point favorites, and
like the Hawks, this has to be north of fourteen. Okay.
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I have it on pretty good authority that Justin Fields
will never dress again for the New York Jets. They
approached him about doing some packages, some wildcat stuff. He
said he did not want to do that, so they said,
Justin Field's kick rocks, you will never ever dress ever
again for the New York Jets. They signed Adrian Martinez
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this week to be the backup to Brady Cook. So
it's either UDFA Brady Cook, who is very likely to
be the starter, and if anything happens to him in
the game, it's Adrian Martinez. And unlike something Brosmer, who
went to the Pacific Northwest with Justin Jefferson with a
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defense that is led by Brian Flores and can do
some things, this is the Jets who were rolling out
a d Mitchell John Metchi and a bottom three defense
in this lead. The Jags can run the ball on anybody,
and they're just gonna run the ball right down the
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Jets throat. They're gonna score thirty or forty in this game,
and it'll be a miracle if the Jets get to
two touchdowns. So this needs to be seventeen. This needs
to be Jags minus seventeen. Brett, tell me why not
you have the Jets in the middle of your fifteen?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, yeah, because nobody's clicking on the Jets A. And
then B it's Trevor Lawrence. Like, you're right, they're just
gonna run the football a lot. But it is Trevor
Lawrence who has just he's just wildly inconsistent. And I
just I don't know that I trust Trevor Lawrence to
be covering thirteen and a half ever, because he can,
like Sam Darnold, who we just talked about, Trevor Lawrence
can give away a game by himself. So that's where
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I landed on this game.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No, it's a good thing. Though. The Jets have as
many interceptions as the collective this season in Pro football,
zero right, Yes, I jesse gun. The Jets have gun
three hundred and forty days, three hundred and forty days
without intercepting a football.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's that's pathetic.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Did you look at Brady Cook's numbers last week? Unlike
Riley Leonard, he wasn't getting first down?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
No, okay, I can't. He can't function. He cannot function.
They they schemed up an unbelievable It was like it
was the new age fake orbit motion where John Mitchie
came in orbit and then stopped and then went back
to where he was wide open for a touchdown. Absolute layup,
the only decent throw of Brady Cook's day, and John
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MITCHI just drops it. I mean, this is just this.
This team is awful and they're going to get stomped
into the ground on Sunday, a game that nobody had
a strong opinion on. What's what the Bills make me wanna?
The Bills travel to Fox Burrow to take on the Patriots.
This is a pick in the contest, and Mo has
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the highest opinion on this game with this soft bubbling
his top five. It was the stone bottom for everybody else,
all all three others. We just had this at the bottom.
I personally think this is lined perfectly. I've got no
opinion here. Mo obviously has an opinion on the traveling
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, because the Patriots are actually gonna have to play
an opponent with a pulse now, and I think things
are gonna be a lot tougher than everything else that
they've been doing. And they have a coach who I mean,
congratulations for getting to this point, but like, is a
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bye week gonna matter for Meathead Rabel? Like, are they
just gonna like come out with anything sharp or like
inventive against the Bills here? I don't think so. And
this is just a good matchup for Buffalo. I think
that they they can't stop the run. This is an
absolutely pathetic and embarrassing run defense. But you have a
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Patriots team that is the worst upfront multiple injuries. They
were the worst before they had multiple injuries. Now, I
think Drake may is gonna be under a lot of pressure,
and I don't think Josh Allen and his handoff merchant
ways are gonna have a particularly tough day against an
okay Patriots defense. So I just I think the Bills
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because the matchup is so nice for them, because this
is such a huge spot because they've been waiting for
this game to kick the Patriots in the teeth. After
they got they kind of embarrassed themselves at home. I mean, yeah,
I just this just feels like this should be Buffalo
here to me. So I'm with you that on paper,
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I understand the line. I just think it's a good
a good matchup for the Bills. I know you're kidding too.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I know you're kidding with the handoff merchant stuff, but
it still hurts. It hurts to hear you say that
because you can't possibly mean that.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Why not James Cook is the best player on the offense?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh my god? Is it's can? People are gonna be
asking the question maybe after this game, if this is
better coach, better quarterback. I obviously don't believe that in
the Patriots direction. I mean, I obviously don't believe that
because I think Josh Allen is very special. But Drake
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May on all these charts, all these everything, Rake May
is up into the right because schedule matters. As Moe said,
these guys have lined up a bunch of tomato cans
and knocked them down fair play. When they went to Buffalo,
they played well Drake may played well, and I think
this Bill's defense has gotten worse since that first game somehow,
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some way. But yeah, I'm just excited to sit down
and watch this one because this, I mean, this is Brett.
This is y'all shot, right, the most open this conference
may ever be, And this is y'all shot. But unfortunately,
like you said on the discord, this is the worst
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collection of players you've had during Josh's tenure.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, in six years, this is the worst. Well maybe
not his rookie season, but since twenty twenty for sure,
this is the worst team we have put out on
the field. And yeah, this this is why I said
like our window might have closed last year, because the
roster is just the defense especially is just in shambles
right now. How are we getting stops against anybody? We
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better score thirty five points this week?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Two more split games, both will be very quick. Titans
at Niners. Brett, you have the Titans soft bubbling your
top five, catching twelve and a half points in Santa Clair.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I want to know if Brett is actually betting all
these absolute horror show teams.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, I'm not betting. This is all contest plays. You
know me, You yes, I clicked on the Titans because
I think people are going to click all of these favorites,
even at these huge numbers.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The narrative is the Titans of quit, the Browns of quit, like.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They're not going to click the Jags. No one is
no one.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Trevor Lawrence minus thirteen and a half in the contest.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You're probably right. That's really all this was for me.
I mean, how could you make a case for the
Titans other than everybody's going to click on the other side.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I mean, the case is. I think the case is
that they might score some points because yeah, man, there
are some absolutely deep, deep red numbers on Rich's chart
by the Niners defense. That's that's the way, right. I
feel like, if you if you bet the Titans with
real money, just parlay with the over, right, there's no
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way that the Titan Like, if this goes under, it's
because the forty nine ers won thirty one to ten
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, everybody with CMC in the Fantasy playoffs is licking
their chops at this matchup. Niners off the by man.
But you're right, this Niners defense is gettable, and I
feel like no one has exploited it. Again, schedule plays
into this. They've played the Browns, They've played the Panthers.
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How many of these teams are actually able to have
a functioning passing offense. So waiting for one of these
teams to test them post all these injuries, it just
hasn't happened yet. It could be cam Ward and damn boys.
Last one, Cardinals at Texans. Brett again, I'll bring you
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in because again, nobody has an opinion here. You've got
the highest opinion on this game. It's your boy something
gam it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Where I landed on this was that the Texans were
minus seven on the look ahead and we're looking at
nine and a half. I know the Texans looked great
last week, and Richie might be right like this is
a team that could probably make a run at the
Super Bowl. Just looking at the AFC right now, it
is that wide open. But again this is I don't
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think the Cardinals are going to be the more popular
side in this one. So I just clicked Arizona.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
All right, let's get out of this.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Did you did you take some seven hundred on the division?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Rich I do? I do have Texans seven to one
to win the division. I wanted to desperately bet them
to make the super Bowl when we were discussing prices,
but the the apex price was plus nineteen hundred. It
was actual, the market was out rate, just so I'd
rather I'd rather just get them for the division price
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and then maybe play some money line in the playoffs
once they get there, because they'll be plus the first
couple of rounds. But yeah, I mean, if CJ plays,
if CJ continues to play well, if Higgins continues to
get better, we know what Nico Collins is, who's going
to win this conference?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Like, if it is complete, aren't all the scary pass
rushes in the NFC too?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, like like this Houston offensive passengers, like these are
the teams that, yeah, they just can't be right, but
they wouldn't only have to play one of them in
there in the super Bowl if they get there.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I started playing playoff best ball this week, and I
cannot stop drafting Texans because it's just like they're right there.
They're as good as every single one of these other
teams right now, so I can see it, I see
a path.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You're right, Let's go Texans, all right, let's go lone Wolves.
I definitely know what this first one is from Brett
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something leverage Hick, the guy who did he play the
worst last week? Or did the loom just have the
maximum on the other side on the Pittsburgh Steelers, because
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Brett is laying the two and a half points on
the road with Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh do I love this for the contest. This is
a by low revenge spot leverage trifecta. Cincinnati just emptied
the tank in a wild game in the snow against Buffalo,
and I think the Ravens are just sitting in a
massive positive regression spot. So let's start start with the Bengals.
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We've basically watched them play back to back playoff games
the past two weeks. They got Burrow back on Thanksgiving,
the entire team gets a jolt and they pull the
shaker over Baltimore, and then last week kind of the
same thing, like desperation mode, playing in the snow like
their season depended on it, because it did, and they
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let that one slip away. So now there are nine
losses and I think the air is just out of
the blue now like Burrow looked unmotivated, he almost looked depressed.
And his presser this week, it's like this is typically
where the effort dips and execution drops and like the
flaws even masking, start to show up again. And the
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flaw here is obvious. The defense is terrible, and Burrow
doesn't fix that. And I think with the Ravens, you've
got a team that just lost two close divisional games.
They've been robbed by variants in both games, and I
think I think back it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Tell me why the Ravens deserve to win that game.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Which won both.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
They lost by twenty the first time.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, okay, but then what happened?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I mean you you they allowed eight yards per play
to the corpse of Aaron Rodgers and they didn't hold
onto a touchdown. Why is that?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well? Also the Rogers that was a bad play. The
Rogers pick was fake.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That was the Isaiah likely touchdown. The Isaiah likely fumble
two weeks ago completely flipped the game, like the things
have just not gone their way in the highest of
leverage a play. So I think you give John Harbaugh
a revenge game, a short number here and a Bengals
team that's coming off those two emotional games. I think
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this is exactly when baltim More shows up angry and focused,
and I think I think you're gonna get a really
good lover spot, like Ridge said, with Baltimore here.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
But it's funny. I don't think this is going to
be leverage right now. Thirty six percent of the handle
is on Cincy, and I think people are really going
to read into those Joe Burrow comments of him maybe
boking and not back the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The other thing, too, is that this is now moving
towards three. Sure, and if it does, if this gets everything.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, then then it becomes everybody and their mother is
going to click Baltimore, Mo, you've got the Ravens bubble
or you got the Bengals excuse me bubbling your top five?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah. Everything Brett said is what a good team would do.
The Ravens aren't a good team. They're a bad team.
So guess what They're going to come out and be
a bad team laying points on the road. They just
let Aaron Rodgers, who is done, have eight yards per.
That was embarrassing, dude.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I mean to be fair, like forty five of it
was on a dump off to Jalen Warren.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That So, why can't Joe Burrow dump it off? Why
can't he do whatever he wants in this game? I mean,
I'm with you that, like everything. Yeah, Joe Burrow did
look pissed off. He did look depressed. He's probably being
honest that he's over it in Cincinnati right now. But
it doesn't matter that this is still the Bengals at
home against the division rival. Dude, They're not gonna just
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let the Ravens waltz into the playoffs. Come on, this
is stupid that I think the Bengals should maybe even
be favored here this this should be a really close line.
So I just, uh yeah, I don't understand this line.
And and once I saw that, the uh you know,
there's some close to minus three's out there, so I
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think I think the Ravens are going to be the
fish side here. So uh yeah. Lamar Jackson in a
cold weather game. Did you see him again last week?
Just bundled up with his stupid ass sche mask could
on and just looking like the most miserable person in
the world on the sideline. Dude, what a loser. I
hate players who can't play in twenty five degree weather
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or what. I wasn't even that cold, grow up, lamar.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Your boys, Schottenheimer or a scheisty at practice. I think
it was Tuesday, and the reporters were asking him about
it afterward, and he's like, I don't know, I don't
like it. I couldn't breathe. It's ridiculous. So keep it
with Brett's lone Wolves and he is taking a team
that he loves this time or once again another road favorite.
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Does the Packers travel to Mile High to take on
the Broncos? They two are laying two and a half.
They did not make your top five, however, Brett, yeah one.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I think these are two different classes of football TAAs
I like Denver, but they are not a complete team
like green Bay is. So I think this number is
right or maybe even short. I had this at green
Bay minus three. People are going to look at this though,
as why is Denver getting points at home? I think
people are going to click Broncos here even at two
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and a half. So that's that's ultimately ultimately where I landed.
I think Green Bay is the second best team in
the NFL, if not one A, one B with the Rams,
and I think the Broncos are a tier below that.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I think you're wrong about leverage. I think everybody loves
the Packers. I haven't heard a single person support Denver
this week, and I don't think people are going to
worry about laying less than a field goal against bo
Nicks with what they perceived to be the best team
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in the league. But when I was staring at this
game and camping this game, I just kept hearing Mo
in the back of my head. When the times where
Love blows it is when he sees pressure. Right now,
one of the best pressure teams in the league fifth
and pressure rate first and a Justice Zach rate is
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the Denver Broncos. This is all I know. The NFC
North is tightly contested. This is an interconference game that
has a little bit lower stakes on it, And I
don't know, I just this feels like one of those
spots where Jordan Love just goes out and plays like
an asshole right in a very tough environment night game.
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Is this a night game or a four pm game?
Tough turn in after the late afternoon, the big four
PM slot. And then I just think Denver handles their
business right like nothing ever. Looks pretty on offense. But
it never looks like a complete disaster. I mean, we
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saw some disaster throws against Washington. The Bonix has the
special one in him every so often, but on the whole,
I don't think it's ever like the worst thing you've
ever seen. So I honestly think that this might be
a leverage spot in Denver's favor And yeah, I just
think it's a good spot for Denver against Jordan Love,
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who tends to crumble in these spots when he gets
pressure against them. So on the other side, there going
to mo speaking of Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers
laying the three and a half playing host to what
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are you shaking your head about? This is? This is
passing offense, passing offense, passing offense.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No, this is you know what this is? This there's
there's only there's only two ways to look at this game.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
They were fine in the cold life. They were finding
the cold last time football.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
And if you look at it about football, then the
Steelers should be more than three and a half point favorites.
If you care about leverage, then you can click on
the Dolphins. There's not one logical reason that the Steelers
shouldn't be more than three and a half point favorites.
It's Tua who is awful in the cold. He can't
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complete a pass. He keeps passing for one hundred and
twenty five yards every week, and the Dolphins keep winning
fake games. Brett talked about that Commander's game. Then we
have that Saints game where they couldn't complete a pass,
almost melted down, and then last week they played a
Triple A team. So I mean, they're actually gonna have
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to play a real football team now on the road
in the cold, and I think the Steelers are gonna
punk this trash bag Dolphins team that is just can't
do anything. I know the Steeler suck, but they are
on a different level of suck than the Dolphins. Dude,
they really are. I mean, what was the last time, too,
I had a decent game.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I don't know. I just think they've been fine. And
more importantly, the Steelers defense has taken substantial steps back.
And now TJ. Watt's not going to play because he
got doctor chowd somebody stabbed him during treatment. It sounds
like they're being very coy about it, but he was
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getting treatment and then all of a sudden he's got
a lung injury. Sounds very weird. I think the Dolphins
I joke about passing offense. I think the Dolphins can
run straight in this game with a chan with right
and with Oli Gordon and just run up the score
against a very poor Pittsburgh defense, keep the ball out
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of to his hands. Three and a half points. I
just do not trust Rogers in this offense. Put up
points scored and extend leads against anybody. And the Dolphins
have sneakily been okay on defense. Again, opponent matters right.
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The teams that they're playing haven't shown must resistance in Washington,
New Orleans and New York. But I got a bone
to pick with one of those teams that will circle
back on in a moment, this next one. I guess
Moe is just the super anti leverage guy because he
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is laying the two and a half with Jackson Dart
and the New York Giants playing host to the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I got nothing on this game. This is a fair line.
Why is this leverage? I don't people are just gonna
line up and take the Giants.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Seventy the handle currently on Jackson Dart and them boys
off a pie. Tell that's why you have Washington in
your top five?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Oh, this is me?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
This is this is picking the team that clearly looked
the worst last week, but now they have a quarterback
who gets a full week of prep knowing he's going
to be the starter again getting points against a bad
Giants team. Like, Look, I love Jackson Dart too. He's fun,
he's exciting, but he can be a huge liability as well.
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Thirty fourth and pass epa in neutral game state. Yeah,
he can make plays in those legs, but that's not
how you get after this Commander's defense. You gotta do
it through the air, and I'm just not sure he
can do that enough to warrant a two and a
half point spread with like no weapons at all. And
we know this is the number that people love to
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bet in the contest, this minus two and a half,
especially for home teams. So yeah, I think the Commanders
are the clear leverage side with Mariota, and so that's
why have got them so high.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Mario Ta, you know the look ahead was on this
game well with Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, I have no idea. I paid very little attention
to this game.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I'll be honest, Washington minus two and a half five
point move or Mario.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Ta that's what it moved against the Chiefs, same same situation.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, I can't get on this Giants team as favorites
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
This could also close three.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Well that would be I mean doubt I would mount
up and get Washington on the card if that's the case,
if all, if the Giants are going to be a
top two pick in the contest, then yeah, you have
to slam Wash because they stink. This Giants team stinks.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
All right, we'll bang through Johnny's taking Any argument for
me is just two bad teams.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
We'll bang through Donnie's two lone wolves. First. This is
one of the most interesting caps of the week. Chargers
at Chiefs. The Chiefs. The Chiefs are five and a
half point favorites in twenty twenty five against a playoff team,
and on the surface, I would think that everyone is
gonna look at that and say, how could you possibly
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lay points with Kansas City? But once again, everybody's lining
up to take the Chiefs. Ninety percent of the handle
is on Kansas City. All I've heard this week is
how is Herbert going to play outside in the cold
with a broken hand. I agree, I agree with all
these points. I wanted to love the Chiefs, like love, love,
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love the Chiefs, but I think Kansas City is going
to be a popular side. So Donnie's got the Chargers
in his top five. I don't know if he's going
full devil or what. I don't even know what the
explanation is other than I mean, the Chiefs suck. That's like,
that's the explanation there is that the Chiefs just stink.
They flat out stink. So how can they lay five
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and a half points? Brett? You've got Kansas City in
your top five?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Well, this this was four and a half. I think
most of that action that came in was at the
four and a half an hour at five and a half,
it's so six, is it really?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Then I don't like the Chiefs as much. That is,
I don't understand what's going on here. Dude, why are
people still hammering the Chiefs?
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Well, because because.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yards with no tackles and you're watching that game, this
is not a functional offense.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I didn't watch that game, thankfully, Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
You saved yourself a lot of misery. Let me just
say that. And after that, let me just say tell
you firsthand from somebody who watched that game, this Chargers
offense is non functional. Okay, they cannot pass the football.
And once again, same thing I said last week against
the it's another offensive line that spags and this defense
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can actually pick on. If you can protect your quarterback,
you can pass all over this chief secondary. But if
you can't, then the Texans. Basically, I mean, let's be honest,
the Chiefs got fucked once again by the refs and
then one big play by Nico Collins and that was
basically their entire offense. So yeah, I mean this is
and then obviously Andy Reid turning it over on the thirty,
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but you know, for Shee Rice caught the ball, maybe
a different story there. So yeah, it just I know
that the Eagles have a wonderful secondary still. But that
was concerning what the Chargers put on tape last week.
That was it's just it's not gonna work going forward.
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So something has to change, and I don't see what
can change. I mean, I just don't see what can change.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, and this is the Chief's ultimate back to the wall, right.
We've been saying it for weeks. They need to shrink
some once together. Now it's it's over right. You have
to win out and you need help. So this is
the ultimate leave it all on the field spot. I
think the Chiefs win by margin, but so does everybody else.
So I couldn't put the Chiefs higher. I couldn't put
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them in my top five. This next one, I mean, Donnie,
what are we doing? Donnie's laying eleven and a half
points with the Philadelphia eg cock card?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Why why won't he stop?
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I don't understand it? And of course it is the
Las Vegas Traders, it is can he piket. I understand
all of these things, but the Eagles can't complete forward passes.
They are right, you want to talk about non functional.
They are a non functional offense with no reason other
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than Lane Johnson, no reason to be this bad. So
total of thirty eight and a half, we're laying eleven
and a half half with the Eagles. I can't get
behind it. So yeah, this is a no brainer in
my top five. Love this play, and so too does Mo.
Mo loves the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah, I mean, do you guys know how many games
the Eagles have won by eleven and a half points.
This year it was one. It was the time that
they beat the Giants when the refs fucked the Giants again,
multiple bad calls, like really bad, the sorts of calls
that like swing things like turnovers instead being touchdowns and
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fourth downs being converted when there should be penalties. We
all know what those plays were. So they have one
kind of fake blowout win and they won zero other
games by this many points.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
And I understand that the Raiders are the worst team
in the NFL, but I've seen this movie before when
they played the Broncos twice that Broncos are a similar
team to the Eagles. They kept both of those within reason,
so I think they're gonna keep this within reason. I mean,
I just Gino Smith has an eleven percent sacrate this year. Okay,
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that's not reasonable? And can he Pickett has a horrific sackrate,
but his career sacraate is like two thirds of that.
It's less than two thirds of that, Okay, So how
can he be worse than Gino?
Speaker 1 (51:30):
He can't be. It also picket revenge former Eagles storming
back into.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Delphi plus against the worst run defense guys in the NFL.
Maybe Ashton Genty can get a few yards this week, maybe.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Right, I have one lone wolf, and I got a
bone to pick with you and the entire betting space.
I'm laying the two and a half on the road
with the Carolina Panthers because I'm sick and tired of
people trying to tell me that Tyler Shuck is not
a bad quarterback. This guy is a bad quarterback. Everyone's
telling me, Oh, he's fine, he's fine, he's functional. No,
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this guy stinks. Everybody is betting the Saints. Everybody thinks
this is the no brainer play of the week. Gotta
bet the Saints. Carolina never does anything on the road,
Gotta bet the Saints. So everyone's gonna bet the Saints.
And you know what Tyler Shuck's gonna do. He's gonna suck.
Canalys is gonna do it out of the by. Carolina's
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gonna have success throwing the ball against this dirt bag team,
and the Panther is gonna win by margin. But you,
but you guys, just like everybody else, Mo leading the pack,
think that the Saints are slam dunk the right side.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah, I don't know where you're getting any of these
number I'm seeing sixty nine percent of the tickets on
the Panthers. You said everybody's on the Chiefs. I'm seeing
twenty five percent of the tickets on the Chiefs. I
think you're pulling me numbers out of your ass, or
you're looking somewhere I'm not looking.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
I will say this one, this one does say the handle.
This one does say the handle is eighty three percent
in favor of the Panthers. But these are all handle
numbers that I'm pulling from DraftKings. So in this one,
the numbers are supporting that everyone is betting Carolina. But
I have not heard I've not heard one person long
half that makes content say anything positive about the Carolina.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Two and a half Carolina off the by a Saints
team that everybody's happy to fade. And I just think
this is a spot where the line is too high
and all the money is going to be on the
other side, and give me the Saints against. Do the
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Panthers have a more talented roster than the Saints. I
don't think they do. I looked up and down these
rosters and I'm like, I don't see much difference between
these teams. I think the Saints might have better players
than the Panthers. So yes, the Panthers have a better quarterback,
but that's that's baked into this line where they're two
and a half point road favorites. Man, I mean a
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team with seven wins is a two and a half
point favorite against two or three whatever win team the
Saints are. So you tell me what side people are
gonna take, and I will.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
I will bet a pizza on the Saints having more
selections in circa than the Panthers booked. I think most
of the side who is taking the Panthers as road
favorites nobody.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
It's two and a half and it might close. I
mean it might close three.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
Well, if it closes three, then I feel like I
have the right to avoid this. Then obviously they're going
to be more popular.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
But yeah, got the Saints to win because I do not.
I don't want to be sitting on my couch in
January watching the Carolina Panthers play for why in a
playoff game? Why the Panthers are things stink? And look,
I'd rather be watching Baker Mayfield in January than watching Bryce.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Young Mayfield the guy losing at home to Kirk cousins
in the Atlanta Falcons. That guy stinks. There was this
whole thread to DK. That's no, they all stink, this
whole thread. Someone's like, who's the next Sam Donald? You know,
we've seen all these reclamation projects, Sam Donald, Daniel Jones,
Baker Mayfield, a lot of they all stink. Those guys
still stink. They just stink a little less than they
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used to. Gino Smith, they stink well.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
Gino Smith didn't stink for a couple of years, but
he ultra stinks now.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Well. He had he had goat JSM. He was he
was holding JSN back then, was trying to break the
damn receiving record. Gino couldn't do the damn thing.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Does this mean you are no longer driving the Gino bus?
I'm still probably retired.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
The only passenger because everybody jumped off. But yeah, he stinks.
I've got the Panthers, Donnie has the Eagles and Chargers,
Moe's got the Steelers and Giants, Wherett's got the U,
Ravens and Packers. Let's make the week fifteen card.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Nine eight seven, five four three.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Two one fire. I went four and one last week.
I've got the first pick and we are taking the
team that is playing against Brady Cook because the Jacksonville
Jaguars should be minus seventeen, so we've got Jags minus
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thirteen and a half on the card.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
I kind of like this pick.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
I just.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, I mean the Jets are I.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Don't see a path to the Jets being compared.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Yeah, Like the Vikings could be competitive with the worst
quarterback in the NFL because they still have a defense
with a pulse. They have good players around the quarterback
in certain positions. The Jets have nothing. They have nothing.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Donnie's up next.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
It's a lot of a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
A lot of points. Donnie's up next, a lot of points.
He's got a game that nobody is gonna like. He
has the Cincinnati Bankals plus two and a half at
home against the Ravens. We gotta hope this guess at three.
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That's the hope, right, Yeah, And I guess the three
and we get leverage. But again, there will be tinkering.
Donnie's literally in the middle of a poker tournament. He
doubled or not DOUBLEDDKO. Somebody want to flip ace Queen
versus Jacks. He's up to one point, five million. I
think thirty k, big line, fifty bigs. Let's go dp MO.
You're up next, and you are going to take a
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team we literally just talked about every week.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
Can I just complain for ten seconds every week? My
pick is the collective pick. I never get to put
my top pick on, and it's always a winner and
so and then I've put some losers on and it sucks,
and it's probably gonna happen again. I might.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Part of it might because you rig the system. This
week you actually put reasonable confidence points. But when you
jam so many points, you rig, you stuff the ballot box.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
They're winners? Are they not winners? They keep being winners.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
You have your fun with this pick. I don't like
this pick.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
Have your fun with well, Brett likes it, so I'm
good with that. With Tyler Shuck getting less than a field,
nobody said he's good, But I'm looking and I think
this could be a better roster than what the Panthers
are rolling out there. Man, things have gone well for
the Panthers. I congratulate them, but like Brett said, they
still stink.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
I Brett's up next. He has a road dog.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
Hey, I've got the commies Mario Ta.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
All right, let's see what most top picket.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
The collective chooses.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
The loss Vegas. Kenny Pickett and his tiny hands in
the City of brother They love Raiders, Jags, Bengals, Saints,
Commis Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Tyler Schuck, Marcus, Mario Ta,
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and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
There's a couple of.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
Good players on there. We got Lawrence and Burrow. They're solid,
above average quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
There will be tinkering. It's crazy. We have no consensus
facts on a fifteen game slate.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
That's got to be a first, has to be a first.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Nothing ever goes well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
On these weeks, all right, there will be thinking tinkering
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guys next week. Peace,
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that puts its money where its mouth is. I'm your host,
rich Ron and I'm joined by two members of the collective,
the Disciple Brett Coulson and the Resident Moose himself mo Nowara.
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Donnie is battling something poker right now in the WPT
Prime Championship. At last check he had about forty big
blinds and he was actually saved. By the way, if
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choice five stars only, like Jon Robinson, who's currently tied
seven seven on Thursday Night Football Falcon Bucks. But DP
was saved because of the old live read somebody did
a literal teddy KGV at his table. They played a
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hand earlier today where the fella three bet shoved queens.
Excuse me, Donnie four bet shoved queens and the fella
who three bet before he called started fumbling with his
phone to record with pocket Queens. The queens hold up
against Donnie's tens, the pot is shipped his way. Later on,
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DP raises with the pocket queens himself. Phone man three
bets somebody else four bet shoves, and before Donnie can act,
my guy starts fumbling with his phone. Donnie notices this,
pitches the Queens into the muck, and my guy calls
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with the pocket king and hold. So, all you guys
out there playing the poker, you want to film your hands,
You want to make sure that they get on your
Instagram reels, anybody who has a sweat of you, any
of the evidence. Maybe you should wait until all the
action is completed before you wizards, before you get the
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video record app out. I'm rambling a little bit because
we had a very sour two and three in circa
Sports million, poor Mo. We talked Mo off of the
ledge of selecting the Kansas City Chiefs because we knew
it was going to be popular. It was the most
popular selection in the contest last week, and of course
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the Chiefs do not win, let alone cover against the Texans,
and Moe flipped a literal coin between the selection that
he made or I guess that fate made the Atlanta
Falcons plus seven or the Tennessee Titans plus four and
a half, and the coin came up Falcons, So we
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lost the literal coin flip there, but I was able
to flip from uh oh, I basically had no pick,
but I flipped to the second best leverage pick of
the week, which was the Minnesota Viking. Sue, did they
did Minnesota win? Did they win? Outright?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They won by a mile?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
What did that contest go? Thirty one? Zap? In Minnesota?
Everybody was just spilling over themselves to get a gimpy
Jaden Daniels onto the card, a man who didn't even
make it out of the first half as the quarterback
for the formerly Washington Racial Slurs, formerly football team, now Commies.
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But all that being said, were still only a half
game out. There's still a lot to play for. Basically,
if we go three and two out, we're going to
cash in this thing, and for what amount? Who knows?
But Mo, Mo is just mo, Can you give the
people just a taste of of how you've been in
the group? Chat?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, I already know what the final result is, So
I'm just I just told you guys, he's got the screw.
Pointless to even put in a pick, really, because twelve
years of evidence tells me as soon as things are
going well, the light at the end of the tunnel
becomes a train, and we get smashed in the face,
and we finish forty percent for the last month and
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then we get nothing. What's it called, Charlie in the
chocolate factory? You get nothing? Fuck you get out. I mean,
that's what's gonna happen. I know what's what's gonna happen.
It already started happening multiple weeks ago. Last week it
happened some more. I mean, let's be honest. As much
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as the Eagles was miserable, that was the right side.
I mean, the Chargers couldn't get a yard and they
still and they still won. So thank you, Jalen hurts.
You stink, And I hope dan Orlowski is on a
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public apology tour. I'm guessing he's not, but he should be.
For those offseason takes that was embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I was gonna read verbatim your train line because that
was the best part about the light in the tunnel
ends up being a train. But all right, mo all
we need again three and two the rest of the way.
Just some body blows and we'll be in the money.
And if we heat up we put together some four
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and ones, we can still win this thing. By the way,
if we five and oho out. We are the winners.
What is disgusted at any thought of optimism. Let's get
into the football. I'm I made a mistake in extending
this intro because we have fifteen games, many of which
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are split contests, because we have zero consensus picks this week,
and we will start with one of the marquee matchups
of the week. It's Lions at Rams. Both of those
animals make that sound. This nearly made everybody's top five
because I'm the lowest and I have this game bubbling
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my top five. But the biggest opinion comes from mister Manati,
who unsurprisingly is fading Dan Campbell.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know, I'm not sure people are paying close enough
attention to just how ravaged this Lion's secondary is right now.
Branch is out for the year, Kirby Joseph downgraded in
practice on Thursday, which is not encouraging. This is the
second straight year that lack of attrition on the defense
has created problems for Detroit, and unfortunately they're running out
of time and that's might be the end because now
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they play the Rams, probably the best team in the
NFL an offense that is humming stef effort McVeigh. This,
This passing game punishes and experienced defensive backs like they
just get Detroit just gave up four hundred and twenty
five yards to a Dallas offense that didn't have Ceedee
lamp for half the game. They won, but it took
an enormous effort to do it. It was a max
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output performance. And when teams are stretched this thin, they
have to empty the tank to survive. And I feel
like this is the week the following week where it breaks.
And I think coaching is a huge piece here too.
McVeigh knows golf as well as anyone better than probably
Golf's current coaches know him, so a lot of familiarity there,
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which means in laid down, short yarded situations, I think
Campbell's aggressiveness could come back to haunt him, and the
Rams offense could stop Detroit in short fields if you
know they can't convert in short yardage a high levelge situation.
So I think LA's going to score a lot here,
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and I don't think Detroit has the horsepower to trade
punches with La for four quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I to him on the Rams. I actually have a
Rams and over ticket in my account. This line secondary
is just completely gone. Bryan Branch out for the season.
Kirby Joseph tried to make a go of it. He
tried to practice on Wednesday and then came up as
a dnp here on Thursday. So they have no safeties.
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They have the corpse of DJ Reid out there, former
Jet legend. I'm very happy they let him walk. Never
ever give undersized cornerbacks a third contract. That is one
of a rule that should be etched in stone in
this league. He was getting a clown suit stitched on
him in every one on one situation in that Cowboys game.
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And it's not to mention that George Pickens was basically
completely checked out in that game, and yet the Cowboys
passing attack had so much success. We've seen this Rams
team clown much lesser opponents on the defensive end than
what the Lions are going to try it out on Sunday.
So yeah, I think the Lions are going to have
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their way on offense. But Mo is on Detroit Motor City.
Donnie is two in his top five, but he can't
speak for himself, but Mo pick up the torch for
Dan Campbell and Nimbles.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, the why the Lions beat the Cowboys. Is it
because they scored forty four points because they were playing
indoors with Jared Goff and a pretty good offense. I
don't know, maybe they could just score some more points
against the Rams too, well.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Is that the Cowboys defense? Is that Cowboys defense bottom
five at everything?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, it's pretty badly not bottom five stop.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Fine, they're fine. They're just run of the mill, below
average team.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I just I just pulled it up now thirty then
past the.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's over the fall season though, irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Man, they're fine for the last month. They're just fine.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like, you're right. No, No, you're absolutely right. They're fine
when they play the Vegas Raiders, they're fine when they
play the Ghosts of the Kansas City Chiefs. You're right
there completely.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They can still rush the passer. Matt Stafford is bad still,
if you have any pressure on him, it's still stinks.
This is the weirdest multi pressure on him. He sinks
one person who can even threaten the defense. Yes, there's
a lot of injuries. This is also Detroit extra time
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to prepare, Dan Campbell extra time to prepare. And isn't
this the game where you want Dan Campbell to be
a lunatic.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Brett's making that out to be a bad thing. And
then yeah, they'll have a plenty of stuff cooked up.
I think for this one, Dan Campbell definitely will. I
would expect some trick plays and just way way better
playmakers on the turf man for for Detroit, just way
better playmakers than what the Rams have out there. Slow
running backs, injured Davante Adams at best and uh yeah,
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Detroit much better receiving corps and uh and running backs.
So I think they can keep this within reason. This
this line is two points too high for me.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So this is what they could field. This is GoF
on the road against a fronts that can get.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
To the road. Yeah, terrifying place to play.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
This is. This is GoF on the road indoors against
a defense that can get to the quarterback without blitzing
thirtieth and blitz rates seventh in adjusted Zach Ray. This
is this is GoF throwing at seven guys in coverage
with pressure, his brain melting and making mistakes. That's what
this is this and that's what Gough has done in
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this spot for his entire career. So I don't see
why why this would be any different this next one.
We go from a very exciting indoor, high flying affair
to Browns at Bears, a game on the lake which
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is going to have frigid temperatures. And I got to
give you guys props. Last week. Nobody said it, but
the cap for the Browns was they quit their defense,
quit it was over. They let the Titans score thirty
points against them. And it's two weeks in a row
now that the Browns have been scored on. So if
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it's quit season, if the only thing that holds this
team together is going to quit, and we know that
they only perform at home, aren't they going to go
to Chicago and just get waxed by Ben Johnson? Of
course Brett doesn't think so, because Brett has been fading
the Bears all season and it's happening once again in
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Week fifty. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Look, Chicago has earned some market respect with the win
in Philly, and they played Green Bay really close last week.
But I'm sticking to the thought that this is not
a team built especially to win games by margin, which
they're going to have to do here. They have three
wins all season by more than seven points. Now they're
links seven and a half against a defense that, yeah,
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maybe they have given up, but we know what the
ceiling is with this Browns defense. This is Shudur Sandsers's
first real rod test. But Chicago can't rush the passer
the twenty eighth and pressure rate, So the Browns can
stick with what worked. You know, Quick Quick throws a
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heavy dose of quin Shawn Jenkins in the run game,
and I think this is a perfect matchup to run
the ball to Chicago thirty eighth in yards per carry allowed,
one of the worst tackling teams in the league, which
gets even more exposed in cold weather. So I think
with a proper game plan here, Chicago or Cleveland can
keep this. I'm a close cha guy was also banged
up in the secondary two Kyler Gordon Mamos again, Tyrek Stevenson,
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Jalen Johnson's still on a snapcount, I think, So I
think there's enough here for Cleveland to keep this within
a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Mo has no opinion, but he has a strong opinion
on this next one. Vikings at Cowboys. The Cowboys are
minus five and a half in the contest, and Moe
is interested in fading JJ McCarthy off of a thirty
one point victor.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, he just played a fake game against a fake defense.
Look at the rest of his season. He's the worst.
And then you have a Minnesota defense that is grading
out very well. But I think is a bit of
a cupcake masher in the sense of like they just
exploit bad quarterbacks and like coaches who can't prepare for
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Brian Flores' stupid tricks. But I'm impressed with what this
Dallas staff is cooked up this year. And they have
a veteran quarterback who I just watched replace every blitz
Steve Spagnolo threw at him. So I just feel like
Dallas should be probably seven point favorites here against a
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horrific Minnesota team on offense that yes, they finally scored
some points, but look at all their games before that.
They are struggling to get to twenty on a good day,
and they're facing a real offense with a real quarterback
and a real passing game.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I just.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Sell JJ McCarthy immediately to me. I just if he
has two good games in a row, I guess I'll
just pay for it. I mean, I don't understand why
Dallas is only five and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
For what it's worth. I like Dallas a lot too,
but I do think they're going to be popular. Hair
short of six.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Eighty six percent of the handle on the Dallas Cowboys,
And you know, it's a good recipe for an offense
that's struggling playing indoors against a bottom five defense. It's
the Dallas Cowboys half. So the market obviously loves the
Vikings coming off the seven, but I think at this
number short of that, I think the contest will buy
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back into to Dallas. But yeah, I put an next
next to Minnesota, but I cannot in good faith put
JJ McCarthy. McCarthy, excuse me off of a thirty one
point victory anywhere near my stop.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Dude, he has an alien at wide receiver and he
can't even get him a target. I mean, this guy
is incapable of throwing the ball more than eight yards downfield.
The Dallas is just gonna put their whole This secondary
is terrible, but they're just gonna put their whole defense
at the line of scrimmage rightfully.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So okay, I feel like I'm getting deja vu literally,
these two games in a row this first one, especially
because the culture traveling to Seattle, where the Hawks are
thirteen and a half point favorites, I feel like it's
happening again. There's a team just going to Seattle without
a quarterback. I've seen this story before, and not only so.
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Here are the options for the Indianapolis Goults. They either
play something Riley Leonard QB, power ass unprofessioned ass quarterback
who cannot complete forward passes.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Or.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I mean, they can't actually play Philip Rivers, right. I
heard this theme today from Adam Schefter was that they're
going in the directions you can't. It is malpractice to
put Philip Rivers on a football field against the Seattle Seahawks. Regardless,
this number has to be north of fourteen points. The
Hawks are just gonna do it again. They're just gonna
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cram another team that can't function. The Colts have nobody
in the secondary anymore. Sauces out ward is out. Disaster
time for Indy and they're just gonna get mushed again.
And once again Brett doesn't believe in the Hawks mushing
and has the cults bubbling is top five.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, this is just putting my trust in Shane Steichen
with a I mean, the guy's Hall of Famer, Like,
he's not gonna do anything too stupid, He's not gonna
do anything extra.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Stop it. Can you cannot just say he's a fault.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Actually believe you don't actually believe he's gonna play, do you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
He is going to do the way Adam shipped something?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Riley Leonard, I thought he actually didn't embarrass himself last week.
I refuse to believe somebody if if Philip Rivers actually plays,
then I have to change my pick. But I just
refuse to believe that's gonna happen. Well, so who are
you on that something?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Leonard?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
He was fine last week. He was throwing decent passes
and getting first down. I thought he was. I thought
he had no chance to be a professional. Okay, and
he actually didn't embarrass himself, I thought so. I think
with Psichin he can actually score a few points and
that's probably all they need to cover that. I think
there's multiple points between something Riley Leonard and the corpse
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of phil I we joke about the court, No, this
is the course. This is actually the corpse. You can't
put him you down the field.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You don't know yet we haven't seen him in five years.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I was blown away. I was blown away when I
went back and looked at that season and he was
eighth in ABA for play. Because my mind's eye was
do I did I save the sounder? Oh no, I
didn't save it was He's just gonna dump it off
to Nahaim Heines. That was just my That's all I remembered,
was just him throwing checkdown to Nahim Heines. But no,
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he's eighth in the EPA per play. But this is crazy.
He shouldn't even dress. Someone needs to be thrown in jail,
and this guy goes on to one.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm completely with it. That's why I'm refusing to believe
this is a real thing. I don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But on the other side, what's aren't the Hawks scoring thirty?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Here?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
This Colts defense is dust?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Why are the Hawks scoring thirty? Though?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Man, they because they always score thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We say that every week.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We say that every week, though, no, come on, last
week was a joke that we say that every week.
They struggled to If Max Brosmer wasn't handing them points,
they would have scored like sixteen points in that You're right,
if you score sixteen. It's really hard to cover thirteen
and a half or whatever this line was. I can't
even remember what it was, but it's really hard, really
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really hard.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
All right. Speaking of Brosmer, the New York Jets traveled
to Jacksonville to take on the Jaguars. Ah Like the Hawks,
the Jags are thirteen and a half point favorites, and
like the Hawks, this has to be north of fourteen. Okay.
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I have it on pretty good authority that Justin Fields
will never dress again for the New York Jets. They
approached him about doing some packages, some wildcat stuff. He
said he did not want to do that, so they said,
Justin Field's kick rocks, you will never ever dress ever
again for the New York Jets. They signed Adrian Martinez
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this week to be the backup to Brady Cook. So
it's either UDFA Brady Cook, who is very likely to
be the starter, and if anything happens to him in
the game, it's Adrian Martinez. And unlike something Brosmer, who
went to the Pacific Northwest with Justin Jefferson with a
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defense that is led by Brian Flores and can do
some things, this is the Jets who were rolling out
a d Mitchell John Metchi and a bottom three defense
in this lead. The Jags can run the ball on anybody,
and they're just gonna run the ball right down the
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Jets throat. They're gonna score thirty or forty in this game,
and it'll be a miracle if the Jets get to
two touchdowns. So this needs to be seventeen. This needs
to be Jags minus seventeen. Brett, tell me why not
you have the Jets in the middle of your fifteen?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, yeah, because nobody's clicking on the Jets A. And
then B it's Trevor Lawrence. Like, you're right, they're just
gonna run the football a lot. But it is Trevor
Lawrence who has just he's just wildly inconsistent. And I
just I don't know that I trust Trevor Lawrence to
be covering thirteen and a half ever, because he can,
like Sam Darnold, who we just talked about, Trevor Lawrence
can give away a game by himself. So that's where
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I landed on this game.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No, it's a good thing. Though. The Jets have as
many interceptions as the collective this season in Pro football,
zero right, Yes, I jesse gun. The Jets have gun
three hundred and forty days, three hundred and forty days
without intercepting a football.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's that's pathetic.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Did you look at Brady Cook's numbers last week? Unlike
Riley Leonard, he wasn't getting first down?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
No, okay, I can't. He can't function. He cannot function.
They they schemed up an unbelievable It was like it
was the new age fake orbit motion where John Mitchie
came in orbit and then stopped and then went back
to where he was wide open for a touchdown. Absolute layup,
the only decent throw of Brady Cook's day, and John
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MITCHI just drops it. I mean, this is just this.
This team is awful and they're going to get stomped
into the ground on Sunday, a game that nobody had
a strong opinion on. What's what the Bills make me wanna?
The Bills travel to Fox Burrow to take on the Patriots.
This is a pick in the contest, and Mo has
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the highest opinion on this game with this soft bubbling
his top five. It was the stone bottom for everybody else,
all all three others. We just had this at the bottom.
I personally think this is lined perfectly. I've got no
opinion here. Mo obviously has an opinion on the traveling
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, because the Patriots are actually gonna have to play
an opponent with a pulse now, and I think things
are gonna be a lot tougher than everything else that
they've been doing. And they have a coach who I mean,
congratulations for getting to this point, but like, is a
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bye week gonna matter for Meathead Rabel? Like, are they
just gonna like come out with anything sharp or like
inventive against the Bills here? I don't think so. And
this is just a good matchup for Buffalo. I think
that they they can't stop the run. This is an
absolutely pathetic and embarrassing run defense. But you have a
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Patriots team that is the worst upfront multiple injuries. They
were the worst before they had multiple injuries. Now, I
think Drake may is gonna be under a lot of pressure,
and I don't think Josh Allen and his handoff merchant
ways are gonna have a particularly tough day against an
okay Patriots defense. So I just I think the Bills
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because the matchup is so nice for them, because this
is such a huge spot because they've been waiting for
this game to kick the Patriots in the teeth. After
they got they kind of embarrassed themselves at home. I mean, yeah,
I just this just feels like this should be Buffalo
here to me. So I'm with you that on paper,
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I understand the line. I just think it's a good
a good matchup for the Bills. I know you're kidding too.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I know you're kidding with the handoff merchant stuff, but
it still hurts. It hurts to hear you say that
because you can't possibly mean that.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Why not James Cook is the best player on the offense?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh my god? Is it's can? People are gonna be
asking the question maybe after this game, if this is
better coach, better quarterback. I obviously don't believe that in
the Patriots direction. I mean, I obviously don't believe that
because I think Josh Allen is very special. But Drake
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May on all these charts, all these everything, Rake May
is up into the right because schedule matters. As Moe said,
these guys have lined up a bunch of tomato cans
and knocked them down fair play. When they went to Buffalo,
they played well Drake may played well, and I think
this Bill's defense has gotten worse since that first game somehow,
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some way. But yeah, I'm just excited to sit down
and watch this one because this, I mean, this is Brett.
This is y'all shot, right, the most open this conference
may ever be, And this is y'all shot. But unfortunately,
like you said on the discord, this is the worst
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collection of players you've had during Josh's tenure.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, in six years, this is the worst. Well maybe
not his rookie season, but since twenty twenty for sure,
this is the worst team we have put out on
the field. And yeah, this this is why I said
like our window might have closed last year, because the
roster is just the defense especially is just in shambles
right now. How are we getting stops against anybody? We
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better score thirty five points this week?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Two more split games, both will be very quick. Titans
at Niners. Brett, you have the Titans soft bubbling your
top five, catching twelve and a half points in Santa Clair.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I want to know if Brett is actually betting all
these absolute horror show teams.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, I'm not betting. This is all contest plays. You
know me, You yes, I clicked on the Titans because
I think people are going to click all of these favorites,
even at these huge numbers.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The narrative is the Titans of quit, the Browns of quit, like.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
They're not going to click the Jags. No one is
no one.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Trevor Lawrence minus thirteen and a half in the contest.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You're probably right. That's really all this was for me.
I mean, how could you make a case for the
Titans other than everybody's going to click on the other side.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I mean, the case is. I think the case is
that they might score some points because yeah, man, there
are some absolutely deep, deep red numbers on Rich's chart
by the Niners defense. That's that's the way, right. I
feel like, if you if you bet the Titans with
real money, just parlay with the over, right, there's no
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way that the Titan Like, if this goes under, it's
because the forty nine ers won thirty one to ten
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, everybody with CMC in the Fantasy playoffs is licking
their chops at this matchup. Niners off the by man.
But you're right, this Niners defense is gettable, and I
feel like no one has exploited it. Again, schedule plays
into this. They've played the Browns, They've played the Panthers.
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How many of these teams are actually able to have
a functioning passing offense. So waiting for one of these
teams to test them post all these injuries, it just
hasn't happened yet. It could be cam Ward and damn boys.
Last one, Cardinals at Texans. Brett again, I'll bring you
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in because again, nobody has an opinion here. You've got
the highest opinion on this game. It's your boy something
gam it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Where I landed on this was that the Texans were
minus seven on the look ahead and we're looking at
nine and a half. I know the Texans looked great
last week, and Richie might be right like this is
a team that could probably make a run at the
Super Bowl. Just looking at the AFC right now, it
is that wide open. But again this is I don't
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think the Cardinals are going to be the more popular
side in this one. So I just clicked Arizona.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
All right, let's get out of this.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Did you did you take some seven hundred on the division?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Rich I do? I do have Texans seven to one
to win the division. I wanted to desperately bet them
to make the super Bowl when we were discussing prices,
but the the apex price was plus nineteen hundred. It
was actual, the market was out rate, just so I'd
rather I'd rather just get them for the division price
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and then maybe play some money line in the playoffs
once they get there, because they'll be plus the first
couple of rounds. But yeah, I mean, if CJ plays,
if CJ continues to play well, if Higgins continues to
get better, we know what Nico Collins is, who's going
to win this conference?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Like, if it is complete, aren't all the scary pass
rushes in the NFC too?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, like like this Houston offensive passengers, like these are
the teams that, yeah, they just can't be right, but
they wouldn't only have to play one of them in
there in the super Bowl if they get there.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I started playing playoff best ball this week, and I
cannot stop drafting Texans because it's just like they're right there.
They're as good as every single one of these other
teams right now, so I can see it, I see
a path.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You're right, Let's go Texans, all right, let's go lone Wolves.
I definitely know what this first one is from Brett
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something leverage Hick, the guy who did he play the
worst last week? Or did the loom just have the
maximum on the other side on the Pittsburgh Steelers, because
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Brett is laying the two and a half points on
the road with Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh do I love this for the contest. This is
a by low revenge spot leverage trifecta. Cincinnati just emptied
the tank in a wild game in the snow against Buffalo,
and I think the Ravens are just sitting in a
massive positive regression spot. So let's start start with the Bengals.
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We've basically watched them play back to back playoff games
the past two weeks. They got Burrow back on Thanksgiving,
the entire team gets a jolt and they pull the
shaker over Baltimore, and then last week kind of the
same thing, like desperation mode, playing in the snow like
their season depended on it, because it did, and they
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let that one slip away. So now there are nine
losses and I think the air is just out of
the blue now like Burrow looked unmotivated, he almost looked depressed.
And his presser this week, it's like this is typically
where the effort dips and execution drops and like the
flaws even masking, start to show up again. And the
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flaw here is obvious. The defense is terrible, and Burrow
doesn't fix that. And I think with the Ravens, you've
got a team that just lost two close divisional games.
They've been robbed by variants in both games, and I
think I think back it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Tell me why the Ravens deserve to win that game.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Which won both.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
They lost by twenty the first time.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, okay, but then what happened?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I mean you you they allowed eight yards per play
to the corpse of Aaron Rodgers and they didn't hold
onto a touchdown. Why is that?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well? Also the Rogers that was a bad play. The
Rogers pick was fake.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That was the Isaiah likely touchdown. The Isaiah likely fumble
two weeks ago completely flipped the game, like the things
have just not gone their way in the highest of
leverage a play. So I think you give John Harbaugh
a revenge game, a short number here and a Bengals
team that's coming off those two emotional games. I think
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this is exactly when baltim More shows up angry and focused,
and I think I think you're gonna get a really
good lover spot, like Ridge said, with Baltimore here.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
But it's funny. I don't think this is going to
be leverage right now. Thirty six percent of the handle
is on Cincy, and I think people are really going
to read into those Joe Burrow comments of him maybe
boking and not back the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The other thing, too, is that this is now moving
towards three. Sure, and if it does, if this gets everything.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, then then it becomes everybody and their mother is
going to click Baltimore, Mo, you've got the Ravens bubble
or you got the Bengals excuse me bubbling your top five?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah. Everything Brett said is what a good team would do.
The Ravens aren't a good team. They're a bad team.
So guess what They're going to come out and be
a bad team laying points on the road. They just
let Aaron Rodgers, who is done, have eight yards per.
That was embarrassing, dude.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I mean to be fair, like forty five of it
was on a dump off to Jalen Warren.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That So, why can't Joe Burrow dump it off? Why
can't he do whatever he wants in this game? I mean,
I'm with you that, like everything. Yeah, Joe Burrow did
look pissed off. He did look depressed. He's probably being
honest that he's over it in Cincinnati right now. But
it doesn't matter that this is still the Bengals at
home against the division rival. Dude, They're not gonna just
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let the Ravens waltz into the playoffs. Come on, this
is stupid that I think the Bengals should maybe even
be favored here this this should be a really close line.
So I just, uh yeah, I don't understand this line.
And and once I saw that, the uh you know,
there's some close to minus three's out there, so I
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think I think the Ravens are going to be the
fish side here. So uh yeah. Lamar Jackson in a
cold weather game. Did you see him again last week?
Just bundled up with his stupid ass sche mask could
on and just looking like the most miserable person in
the world on the sideline. Dude, what a loser. I
hate players who can't play in twenty five degree weather
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or what. I wasn't even that cold, grow up, lamar.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Your boys, Schottenheimer or a scheisty at practice. I think
it was Tuesday, and the reporters were asking him about
it afterward, and he's like, I don't know, I don't
like it. I couldn't breathe. It's ridiculous. So keep it
with Brett's lone Wolves and he is taking a team
that he loves this time or once again another road favorite.
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Does the Packers travel to Mile High to take on
the Broncos? They two are laying two and a half.
They did not make your top five, however, Brett, yeah one.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I think these are two different classes of football TAAs
I like Denver, but they are not a complete team
like green Bay is. So I think this number is
right or maybe even short. I had this at green
Bay minus three. People are going to look at this though,
as why is Denver getting points at home? I think
people are going to click Broncos here even at two
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and a half. So that's that's ultimately ultimately where I landed.
I think Green Bay is the second best team in
the NFL, if not one A, one B with the Rams,
and I think the Broncos are a tier below that.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I think you're wrong about leverage. I think everybody loves
the Packers. I haven't heard a single person support Denver
this week, and I don't think people are going to
worry about laying less than a field goal against bo
Nicks with what they perceived to be the best team
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in the league. But when I was staring at this
game and camping this game, I just kept hearing Mo
in the back of my head. When the times where
Love blows it is when he sees pressure. Right now,
one of the best pressure teams in the league fifth
and pressure rate first and a Justice Zach rate is
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the Denver Broncos. This is all I know. The NFC
North is tightly contested. This is an interconference game that
has a little bit lower stakes on it, And I
don't know, I just this feels like one of those
spots where Jordan Love just goes out and plays like
an asshole right in a very tough environment night game.
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Is this a night game or a four pm game?
Tough turn in after the late afternoon, the big four
PM slot. And then I just think Denver handles their
business right like nothing ever. Looks pretty on offense. But
it never looks like a complete disaster. I mean, we
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saw some disaster throws against Washington. The Bonix has the
special one in him every so often, but on the whole,
I don't think it's ever like the worst thing you've
ever seen. So I honestly think that this might be
a leverage spot in Denver's favor And yeah, I just
think it's a good spot for Denver against Jordan Love,
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who tends to crumble in these spots when he gets
pressure against them. So on the other side, there going
to mo speaking of Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers
laying the three and a half playing host to what
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are you shaking your head about? This is? This is
passing offense, passing offense, passing offense.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No, this is you know what this is? This there's
there's only there's only two ways to look at this game.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
They were fine in the cold life. They were finding
the cold last time football.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
And if you look at it about football, then the
Steelers should be more than three and a half point favorites.
If you care about leverage, then you can click on
the Dolphins. There's not one logical reason that the Steelers
shouldn't be more than three and a half point favorites.
It's Tua who is awful in the cold. He can't
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complete a pass. He keeps passing for one hundred and
twenty five yards every week, and the Dolphins keep winning
fake games. Brett talked about that Commander's game. Then we
have that Saints game where they couldn't complete a pass,
almost melted down, and then last week they played a
Triple A team. So I mean, they're actually gonna have
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to play a real football team now on the road
in the cold, and I think the Steelers are gonna
punk this trash bag Dolphins team that is just can't
do anything. I know the Steeler suck, but they are
on a different level of suck than the Dolphins. Dude,
they really are. I mean, what was the last time, too,
I had a decent game.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I don't know. I just think they've been fine. And
more importantly, the Steelers defense has taken substantial steps back.
And now TJ. Watt's not going to play because he
got doctor chowd somebody stabbed him during treatment. It sounds
like they're being very coy about it, but he was
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getting treatment and then all of a sudden he's got
a lung injury. Sounds very weird. I think the Dolphins
I joke about passing offense. I think the Dolphins can
run straight in this game with a chan with right
and with Oli Gordon and just run up the score
against a very poor Pittsburgh defense, keep the ball out
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of to his hands. Three and a half points. I
just do not trust Rogers in this offense. Put up
points scored and extend leads against anybody. And the Dolphins
have sneakily been okay on defense. Again, opponent matters right.
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The teams that they're playing haven't shown must resistance in Washington,
New Orleans and New York. But I got a bone
to pick with one of those teams that will circle
back on in a moment, this next one. I guess
Moe is just the super anti leverage guy because he
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is laying the two and a half with Jackson Dart
and the New York Giants playing host to the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I got nothing on this game. This is a fair line.
Why is this leverage? I don't people are just gonna
line up and take the Giants.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Seventy the handle currently on Jackson Dart and them boys
off a pie. Tell that's why you have Washington in
your top five?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Oh, this is me?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
This is this is picking the team that clearly looked
the worst last week, but now they have a quarterback
who gets a full week of prep knowing he's going
to be the starter again getting points against a bad
Giants team. Like, Look, I love Jackson Dart too. He's fun,
he's exciting, but he can be a huge liability as well.
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Thirty fourth and pass epa in neutral game state. Yeah,
he can make plays in those legs, but that's not
how you get after this Commander's defense. You gotta do
it through the air, and I'm just not sure he
can do that enough to warrant a two and a
half point spread with like no weapons at all. And
we know this is the number that people love to
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bet in the contest, this minus two and a half,
especially for home teams. So yeah, I think the Commanders
are the clear leverage side with Mariota, and so that's
why have got them so high.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Mario Ta, you know the look ahead was on this
game well with Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, I have no idea. I paid very little attention
to this game.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I'll be honest, Washington minus two and a half five
point move or Mario.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Ta that's what it moved against the Chiefs, same same situation.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, I can't get on this Giants team as favorites
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
This could also close three.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Well that would be I mean doubt I would mount
up and get Washington on the card if that's the case,
if all, if the Giants are going to be a
top two pick in the contest, then yeah, you have
to slam Wash because they stink. This Giants team stinks.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
All right, we'll bang through Johnny's taking Any argument for
me is just two bad teams.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
We'll bang through Donnie's two lone wolves. First. This is
one of the most interesting caps of the week. Chargers
at Chiefs. The Chiefs. The Chiefs are five and a
half point favorites in twenty twenty five against a playoff team,
and on the surface, I would think that everyone is
gonna look at that and say, how could you possibly
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lay points with Kansas City? But once again, everybody's lining
up to take the Chiefs. Ninety percent of the handle
is on Kansas City. All I've heard this week is
how is Herbert going to play outside in the cold
with a broken hand. I agree, I agree with all
these points. I wanted to love the Chiefs, like love, love,
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love the Chiefs, but I think Kansas City is going
to be a popular side. So Donnie's got the Chargers
in his top five. I don't know if he's going
full devil or what. I don't even know what the
explanation is other than I mean, the Chiefs suck. That's like,
that's the explanation there is that the Chiefs just stink.
They flat out stink. So how can they lay five
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and a half points? Brett? You've got Kansas City in
your top five?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Well, this this was four and a half. I think
most of that action that came in was at the
four and a half an hour at five and a half,
it's so six, is it really?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Then I don't like the Chiefs as much. That is,
I don't understand what's going on here. Dude, why are
people still hammering the Chiefs?
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Well, because because.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yards with no tackles and you're watching that game, this
is not a functional offense.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I didn't watch that game, thankfully, Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
You saved yourself a lot of misery. Let me just
say that. And after that, let me just say tell
you firsthand from somebody who watched that game, this Chargers
offense is non functional. Okay, they cannot pass the football.
And once again, same thing I said last week against
the it's another offensive line that spags and this defense
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can actually pick on. If you can protect your quarterback,
you can pass all over this chief secondary. But if
you can't, then the Texans. Basically, I mean, let's be honest,
the Chiefs got fucked once again by the refs and
then one big play by Nico Collins and that was
basically their entire offense. So yeah, I mean this is
and then obviously Andy Reid turning it over on the thirty,
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but you know, for Shee Rice caught the ball, maybe
a different story there. So yeah, it just I know
that the Eagles have a wonderful secondary still. But that
was concerning what the Chargers put on tape last week.
That was it's just it's not gonna work going forward.
(48:46):
So something has to change, and I don't see what
can change. I mean, I just don't see what can change.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, and this is the Chief's ultimate back to the wall, right.
We've been saying it for weeks. They need to shrink
some once together. Now it's it's over right. You have
to win out and you need help. So this is
the ultimate leave it all on the field spot. I
think the Chiefs win by margin, but so does everybody else.
So I couldn't put the Chiefs higher. I couldn't put
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them in my top five. This next one, I mean, Donnie,
what are we doing? Donnie's laying eleven and a half
points with the Philadelphia eg cock card?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Why why won't he stop?
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I don't understand it? And of course it is the
Las Vegas Traders, it is can he piket. I understand
all of these things, but the Eagles can't complete forward passes.
They are right, you want to talk about non functional.
They are a non functional offense with no reason other
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than Lane Johnson, no reason to be this bad. So
total of thirty eight and a half, we're laying eleven
and a half half with the Eagles. I can't get
behind it. So yeah, this is a no brainer in
my top five. Love this play, and so too does Mo.
Mo loves the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah, I mean, do you guys know how many games
the Eagles have won by eleven and a half points.
This year it was one. It was the time that
they beat the Giants when the refs fucked the Giants again,
multiple bad calls, like really bad, the sorts of calls
that like swing things like turnovers instead being touchdowns and
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fourth downs being converted when there should be penalties. We
all know what those plays were. So they have one
kind of fake blowout win and they won zero other
games by this many points.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
And I understand that the Raiders are the worst team
in the NFL, but I've seen this movie before when
they played the Broncos twice that Broncos are a similar
team to the Eagles. They kept both of those within reason,
so I think they're gonna keep this within reason. I mean,
I just Gino Smith has an eleven percent sacrate this year. Okay,
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that's not reasonable? And can he Pickett has a horrific sackrate,
but his career sacraate is like two thirds of that.
It's less than two thirds of that, Okay, So how
can he be worse than Gino?
Speaker 1 (51:30):
He can't be. It also picket revenge former Eagles storming
back into.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Delphi plus against the worst run defense guys in the NFL.
Maybe Ashton Genty can get a few yards this week, maybe.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Right, I have one lone wolf, and I got a
bone to pick with you and the entire betting space.
I'm laying the two and a half on the road
with the Carolina Panthers because I'm sick and tired of
people trying to tell me that Tyler Shuck is not
a bad quarterback. This guy is a bad quarterback. Everyone's
telling me, Oh, he's fine, he's fine, he's functional. No,
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this guy stinks. Everybody is betting the Saints. Everybody thinks
this is the no brainer play of the week. Gotta
bet the Saints. Carolina never does anything on the road,
Gotta bet the Saints. So everyone's gonna bet the Saints.
And you know what Tyler Shuck's gonna do. He's gonna suck.
Canalys is gonna do it out of the by. Carolina's
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gonna have success throwing the ball against this dirt bag team,
and the Panther is gonna win by margin. But you,
but you guys, just like everybody else, Mo leading the pack,
think that the Saints are slam dunk the right side.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah, I don't know where you're getting any of these
number I'm seeing sixty nine percent of the tickets on
the Panthers. You said everybody's on the Chiefs. I'm seeing
twenty five percent of the tickets on the Chiefs. I
think you're pulling me numbers out of your ass, or
you're looking somewhere I'm not looking.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
I will say this one, this one does say the handle.
This one does say the handle is eighty three percent
in favor of the Panthers. But these are all handle
numbers that I'm pulling from DraftKings. So in this one,
the numbers are supporting that everyone is betting Carolina. But
I have not heard I've not heard one person long
half that makes content say anything positive about the Carolina.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
Two and a half Carolina off the by a Saints
team that everybody's happy to fade. And I just think
this is a spot where the line is too high
and all the money is going to be on the
other side, and give me the Saints against. Do the
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Panthers have a more talented roster than the Saints. I
don't think they do. I looked up and down these
rosters and I'm like, I don't see much difference between
these teams. I think the Saints might have better players
than the Panthers. So yes, the Panthers have a better quarterback,
but that's that's baked into this line where they're two
and a half point road favorites. Man, I mean a
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team with seven wins is a two and a half
point favorite against two or three whatever win team the
Saints are. So you tell me what side people are
gonna take, and I will.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
I will bet a pizza on the Saints having more
selections in circa than the Panthers booked. I think most
of the side who is taking the Panthers as road
favorites nobody.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
It's two and a half and it might close. I
mean it might close three.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
Well, if it closes three, then I feel like I
have the right to avoid this. Then obviously they're going
to be more popular.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
But yeah, got the Saints to win because I do not.
I don't want to be sitting on my couch in
January watching the Carolina Panthers play for why in a
playoff game? Why the Panthers are things stink? And look,
I'd rather be watching Baker Mayfield in January than watching Bryce.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Young Mayfield the guy losing at home to Kirk cousins
in the Atlanta Falcons. That guy stinks. There was this
whole thread to DK. That's no, they all stink, this
whole thread. Someone's like, who's the next Sam Donald? You know,
we've seen all these reclamation projects, Sam Donald, Daniel Jones,
Baker Mayfield, a lot of they all stink. Those guys
still stink. They just stink a little less than they
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used to. Gino Smith, they stink well.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
Gino Smith didn't stink for a couple of years, but
he ultra stinks now.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Well. He had he had goat JSM. He was he
was holding JSN back then, was trying to break the
damn receiving record. Gino couldn't do the damn thing.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Does this mean you are no longer driving the Gino bus?
I'm still probably retired.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
The only passenger because everybody jumped off. But yeah, he stinks.
I've got the Panthers, Donnie has the Eagles and Chargers,
Moe's got the Steelers and Giants, Wherett's got the U,
Ravens and Packers. Let's make the week fifteen card.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Nine eight seven, five four three.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Two one fire. I went four and one last week.
I've got the first pick and we are taking the
team that is playing against Brady Cook because the Jacksonville
Jaguars should be minus seventeen, so we've got Jags minus
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thirteen and a half on the card.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
I kind of like this pick.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
I just.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, I mean the Jets are I.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Don't see a path to the Jets being compared.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Yeah, Like the Vikings could be competitive with the worst
quarterback in the NFL because they still have a defense
with a pulse. They have good players around the quarterback
in certain positions. The Jets have nothing. They have nothing.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Donnie's up next.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
It's a lot of a lot of points.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
A lot of points. Donnie's up next, a lot of points.
He's got a game that nobody is gonna like. He
has the Cincinnati Bankals plus two and a half at
home against the Ravens. We gotta hope this guess at three.
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That's the hope, right, Yeah, And I guess the three
and we get leverage. But again, there will be tinkering.
Donnie's literally in the middle of a poker tournament. He
doubled or not DOUBLEDDKO. Somebody want to flip ace Queen
versus Jacks. He's up to one point, five million. I
think thirty k, big line, fifty bigs. Let's go dp MO.
You're up next, and you are going to take a
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team we literally just talked about every week.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
Can I just complain for ten seconds every week? My
pick is the collective pick. I never get to put
my top pick on, and it's always a winner and
so and then I've put some losers on and it sucks,
and it's probably gonna happen again. I might.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Part of it might because you rig the system. This
week you actually put reasonable confidence points. But when you
jam so many points, you rig, you stuff the ballot box.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
They're winners? Are they not winners? They keep being winners.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
You have your fun with this pick. I don't like
this pick.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
Have your fun with well, Brett likes it, so I'm
good with that. With Tyler Shuck getting less than a field,
nobody said he's good, But I'm looking and I think
this could be a better roster than what the Panthers
are rolling out there. Man, things have gone well for
the Panthers. I congratulate them, but like Brett said, they
still stink.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
I Brett's up next. He has a road dog.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
Hey, I've got the commies Mario Ta.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
All right, let's see what most top picket.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
The collective chooses.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
The loss Vegas. Kenny Pickett and his tiny hands in
the City of brother They love Raiders, Jags, Bengals, Saints,
Commis Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Tyler Schuck, Marcus, Mario Ta,
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and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
There's a couple of.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
Good players on there. We got Lawrence and Burrow. They're solid,
above average quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
There will be tinkering. It's crazy. We have no consensus
facts on a fifteen game slate.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
That's got to be a first, has to be a first.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Nothing ever goes well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
On these weeks, all right, there will be thinking tinkering
at gerdyon Gamble check that. Check that out for our
final card on Sunday for all these guys at Brett Colson,
Clel s O N and at Monorora and you double
W A R A H. I'm Att rich T Ryan.
Best of luck in your betting ventures. We'll see you
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