2025 Week 5: Last Man Standing

The Collective live sweat a Survivor entry (sigh) as the build their Week 5 Circa Sports Million card.
 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hello, and welcome back to Great ire Jamble, the only
podcast that puts its money where its mouth is. I'm
your host, rich Ron, and I'm joined by two members
of the collective, the Disciple, Brett Colson and the Resident
moves himself mo Nowara. Donnie once again entangled in something poker,

(00:34):
this time work related. He is on Comms right now
at the twenty twenty five Poker Masters, but we do
have his picks. He was five and zero last week.
His top seven were all winners last week twelve and
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a guy who we need to start playing a little
bit better, Jared Verse. I could also say Matthew Stafford
because right now this is a very sweaty moment for
the collective. Because we did get there.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
There's no more sweat. It's over.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
We did get both Survivor entries through last week, in
addition to our four and one card and Circus Sports million,
but one of them is currently in action, but it's
unfortunately down two touchdowns with the Los Angeles Rams. Moe
what had you land on Los Angeles at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
There mainly just the fact that I thought everyone was
gonna circle the Rams against the Saints because they're projected
to be fourteen point favorites. So I just even though
the projections are telling me a lot of people are
going to pick the Rams this week, I kind of
thought so. I originally had Colts, so now I'm really
hoping the Colts lose. Then I just don't have to
lose any sleep over any of this. But I switched

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to Rams because I'd rather have the Rams now, I thought,
at a lower ownership than when they're ultra chalk against
the Saints, because it's not like I was loving the
Colts anyway. I just think that it's just a fine spot,
I guess, but like high variance because it's probably going

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to be a high scoring game in a Dome with
a Raiders team that has been pretty bad. But at
the same time they could clean it up because Gino
could score thirty on any given week. So just a
spot where and then all these forty nine ers injuries,
I thought, you know, the Rams might have a pulse

(02:43):
on d but I guess they're just terrible thirtieth in
the power rank. Apparently they're just getting clowned by the Niners.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Rams rejected to be forty three percent owned in that
Week nine matchup against the New Orleans Saints courtesy of
our good friends at Pool Genius, and I already selected
the Rams on the road week two against thirty two
of thirty two for sure at this point the Tennessee Titans,
so we couldn't get double whammied. Thankfully in this spot
and hopefully I mean fingers crossed, we still got three

(03:13):
full quarters of football left, plenty of time for the
clock to strike midnight and mac Jones to return to
pumpkins status. MO, it's just not buying the Optimus's mouth.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
There's no time. It's fourteen to nil, this game's over.
It's an embarrassing shit. Why where was Shanahan last week?
And just I want to sit down with every idiot
nerd from PFF who keeps giving Matt Stafford ninety grades.
He missed the most wide open easy throw from an

(03:47):
absolutely perfect pocket on their first drive.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Are you guys.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Paying attention to football? Stafford's been asked so far, guys,
all he can do. He's a Puka merchant. Now, that's
all he is. He can just throw it Puka, who,
let's just be honest, is the best receiver in the NFL,
and that's all he can do. One hundred and fifty
yards against the Eagles. They completely relied on their run game.
Stafford played awful that day. He just hasn't been good.

(04:13):
He's not a good quarterback.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
He's he's okay, and they're just grading him as the
best in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Pooka greater than Jamar Chase in this thread.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
As much as I love Chase and Jefferson, I just
I just feel like Pooka just does it all, man,
he does it at all.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I've said this, Pooka is exactly who everybody thought Cooper
Cup was. He's just he's him. He's an absolutely incredible player.
All right, let's move on to the rest. That was
an awful check bum bum brett. I don't know if
you saw that, but it is just the easiest checkdown

(04:51):
to a back you will ever see. And oh it's deflected. Okay,
this would have been one of the worst throws you've
ever seen if it was all right. Split contests where
there are two hosts on one side and two hosts
on the other and we'll keep it in the City
of Angels as the Washington Commanders travel to the West

(05:11):
Coast to take on the Chargers. The Chargers are two
and a half point favorites in this game, and it
is a very up in the air type of contest
due to injuries, because you've got one team with the
Commanders a quarterback returning from injury. But who is he
to throw to when I'm seeing that, Neither Noah Brown,

(05:32):
Terry McLaurin, neither Deebo Sanuel nor Deebo sand You'll have
practiced this week. Terry McLaurin specifically has a multi week injury.
I don't even know why they keep faking us out
by having him. He already has the out designation. But
then you have the Chargers who have no tackles for
remainings later out for the season in the preseason, and

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now Joel out is joining him in the training room.
All that being said, Moe has a strong opinion on
this game, and he's laying the two and a half
points with Justin Herbert and dem Boys.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I wanted to have a stronger opinion on this game,
but there's a major problem with this game. Maybe you
guys don't agree with me. I don't know who clicked Washington,
Isn't Isn't Chargers just an obvious side here with this
receiving core an absolute disaster. I said before the start
of the season that Washington, while I liked them, I

(06:28):
thought they were one of the most vulnerable teams to
injury because of Terry McLaurin. And then I think he
might be the only good downfield receiver on the team.
So then now he's hurt, and maybe no Noah Brown,
I mean, Deebo has been better than I.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Expected, but come on, man, Jalen Noel.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Something.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Jalen Lane that player that I've never heard of in
my life.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So I just don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
What this team has left as far as offensive weapons go.
And then and on the other side of the ball,
you have Joe All injury, which I think is big.
You apparently don't Rich, so I'm sure you're on my
team here, But yeah, I think that's big. But Washington
doesn't have any pass rushers that I'm concerned about. So
this is just a spot where I think the injuries

(07:18):
are just going to be more impactful for Washington. So
I think this line should probably be three or three
and a half, and I think that's obvious because it's
going there. So I wanted to have a bigger opinion
on this, but I'm just concerned this is going to
be a top five player in the contest.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
And Brett is nodding his head. I'm assuming that as
why you've got the highest opinion on Washington, but they
are quite lower.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, that's all this really is is I think everybody's
seeing what Mo was saying, with all these injuries on Washington,
Jadan Daniels in his first game back, what's.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
He gonna look like?

Speaker 5 (07:51):
And I think people just don't They don't properly cap
for how big a player like Joel is because that's massive.
So that that's really where I ended up in this game.
I think really Chargers minus two and a half is
the side if you're betting this game, but in a

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contest format, I prefer taking just the leverage side with.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
The Commanders the most. Show rolls on as we head
to Cincinnati for the Battle of Cats between the Bengals
and Lions. The Bengals are getting ten points in the contest,
and despite I feel like the entire collective coming around

(08:38):
to the fact that all the Detroit Lions do is
score touchdowns. MO really really likes the home dog coming
off of a national television ass kicking in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
This is this is this is another pinch or no spot.
This is an awful team with that just got absolutely
trounced on national TV. The market just massively inflating the
other way. The Lions keep blowing people out every This
is so embarrassing. This is so embarrassing by the Rams.

(09:17):
Just anyways, Yeah, it's just a spot where we've watched
this Bengals offense get absolutely punked.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
The last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
But the matchups have been dreadful. They're just getting absolutely
overwhelmed up front, and we know the Lions are monsters
at times, especially against the run. I don't think the
quality of the pass rush is is quite as strong
as these other teams they've been facing, playing against a

(09:50):
defense that I think they've They've played pretty well, the Lions,
but you know that I don't put them on the
level of of the Vikings and possibly you know, the Broncos.
So I think this is the week that we see
Jake Browning score some points so if Jake Browning can

(10:13):
score some points here, especially multiple injuries in the Detroit secondary,
I know that hasn't mattered so far because they can't
even give Jake Browning a pocket, but eventually he's bound
to complete some passes. Eventually there's going to be a
halfway decent pocket. I think this could be the week
where they finally score some points, and if they do,

(10:34):
I think they'll cover. This line is a couple points
higher than I think it should be. I mean, basically,
when I'm looking so like, I have Cincinnati in Cleveland
basically right next to each other, and I had I
had Detroit minus eleven and a half last week, so
I don't see why they should be minus ten on
the road against a similar team basically, And and then

(10:55):
I don't, I know, nobody likes to lay big numbers,
so maybe there's no bridge. But the line is moving
towards the Lions.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
And the contest historically loves Detroit, So from a betting perspective,
I'm not going to put real American dollars on the
Detroit Lions. But from a cont like, I don't. I
don't know how you don't just comfortably almost every week
against bad teams, put the Detroit Lions on your card.
In some of these contests. They just roll these horrifying teams.

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And the Bengals are another horrifying football team. The Lions
eleventh and pressure rate second and adjusted zach rate. Jake
Running may have no time to throw in this contest.
And then from an offensive perspective, Boennix is horrifying and
he breathed to that point total last week. What are

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the Lions going to do against this Bengals defense?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
And we know I don't know. I don't know the
total high enough for sure. I don't understand why this
total isn't like fifty five.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
And the Lions aren't gonna stop scoring. We know this.
They won't stop operating at a high level. It's just
what they do. They don't take their foot off the gas.
So I've got Detroit in my top five, it's at
the bottom of my top five. But Brett, all they
do is mush these horrific teams.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
I mean, yeah, a lot of it happens at home,
like the Lions offense is less dangerous on the road outdoors.
So well, yes, this does set up as an incredible matchup.
I gainst the bottom three defense. I think the Lions
lose a chunk of value when they're not in a dome.
I'm with mal I love this spot is a Browning
bounce back. He's faced two elite defenses in his first
two starts. Now gets a downgrade. With the Lions that

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will be without two of the top cornerbacks, if not
two of their top cornerbacks, and DJ reading, Terry and Arnold.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
It looks like but.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, look at Browning if he gets some time in
the pocket, which is a big question mark at this point,
but this could be a feast spot for Chase and Higgins.
Who really, I mean, these guys want to get going.
Uh So that's what I'm staying here, Like, yeah, the
Lions could put up forty, but I don't see why
if Browning gets some time in the pocket that the
Bengals can't put up thirty plus either.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
DJ Reid placed on I are Terry And'arnold did return
as a full participant in practice.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
No Oday, So Kirby Joseph though right.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yes, Kirby Joseph has not been heard all week.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
We've been a monster for them.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I I mean, but this is the kind of game
like you're saying, Mo, like, the further back from the
lion of scrimmage, you are the less worried I am
when you're playing the Bengals, right, Like, you got to
get the ball out in order for guys that far
from the line of scrimmers to actually have an impact
on the contest. Once again, the most show rolls on
because the Bucks are traveling to the Pacific Northwest to

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take on the Seahawks. Come on, and Mo is completely
Baker may feel pilled before or the season he was
kicking a fush. People were telling me Baker's top five.
They're idiots. Baker's not top five. Baker's not that guy. Now,
all it is is that Baker is him. Moe just

(14:12):
beaking about Baker twenty four to seven, and he has
Baker and the Bucks in his top five.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, somebody stopped them. Why can't anybody stop them? The
Eagles got kind of wrecked.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
On d last week.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean, Tampa Bay is coming off a game where
everyone is looking at it like they lost to the Eagles,
they didn't cover whatever, They arguably outplayed the Eagles, and
then you know, I just I still think they're a
better team than the Seahawks. That's just what this comes
down to. And I keep upgrading the Seahawks every week.
I moved the Seahawks up. They're playing great.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I'm not gonna sit here and say they're not.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
But you know they've also played not the most inspiring
of competition without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Right, So this this Rams defense is apparently a joke.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I mean, they're they're just like like.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Can we not take Thursday night football games anymore?

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Like?

Speaker 7 (15:06):
What?

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
This is so frustrating.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
They're getting whatever they want and some bum just drop
the ball. So I mean signs of life maybe from
from the Rams. If they can, they've got a chance.
But yeah, I just I just think, like I just
think the Bucks are a little bit better. So I
just I know that it's a good spot for the Seahawks.
But you know, it's all gonna come down to getting

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pressure on Baker with four guys, because that's what the
Seahawks are good at. And that's a cheat code in general,
but it's definitely a cheat code against Baker because if
anybody has a chance to drive on the ball when
Baker Mayfield is back and staring people down, trying to
fit the ball in the tightest windows imaginable, because you
know he's gonna do that. Then there's a chance for

(15:54):
big plays, right. But you know, I still don't believe
in the Seahawks offense. I think that I keep waiting
for the Seahawks offensive line to get wrecked. So maybe
Videvea is the one who can do it. So they've
been playing pretty bad competition. I just can't get to
three and a half here for me, just because I
think the Bucks are better. But yeah, I understand why

(16:14):
everyone's excited about the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
They're playing very good ball.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
But I think the Bucks are too.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
But I think this could be popular too. I think
everyone's on the box, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's the spot for me. It's the extended rest versus
one of the longest travel spots in the year for
Tampa Bay. On top of that, the Bucks remain banged up.
Jamael Dean, you've got sterling Shepherd when your receiver room
is already on its last legs. Godwin is back, however,
and looked pretty good last week. He looked like a

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guy that they just put on ir for safety purposes,
but he ran a pretty high complimentary amount of routes.
The Bucky Irving thing, you know, seems massive when that
guy is ripping off explosive plays and it's an offense
that feasts off of explosives. Not having them back there
is a big problem. And then yeah, like you said,

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the Seahawks sixth in pressure rate, thirty first in blitz rate.
They're doing this with a four man front getting after
the quarterback. If you can do that and drop back
and coverage against Baker, he's gonna have a lot less success,
especially running. We know Baker likes to get outside the
pocket and move around a little bit, and it's a
lot harder to do that when you're not blitzing and

(17:28):
you've got eyes on the quarterback. So I just think
this is the spot for the Hawks. I'm the highest
on them, but I have them just in the middle
of my thirteen games. So not running to the window,
not loving it, but it's a fair line and I
just think the spot favors Seattle.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Here.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Let's get Brett involved as we travel up to Orchard Park.
The Bills make me a wanna. The Bills are seven
and a half point favorites at home against their AFC
East rivals, the new England Triots and Buffalo bubbled your card, Brot.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, I'm just selling the Patriots after that win last week.
I think we all saw that one coming. The Panthers
on the road going into New England and the Bills
getting a little healthier on defense, it looks like, and
they're just far better than the Patriots. Like, I don't

(18:26):
see New England competing in this game. I just don't
see them getting there. The look ahead on this was ten.
Why are we down to seven and a half now?
I just I don't understand what's going on here.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Pre season eight and a half, Like you said, look
ahead of ten, everybody just excited about this is just
the young quarterback ascension vibe, right, every time a young
quarterback does well, everyone is just like, well, you know,
log up, They're just gonna be awesome. Everything they do
from here here on out is gonna be incredible. And

(18:57):
that's what's happening with this number here. I have the
highest opinion on the Patriots just because I just laid
eyes on a Saints team that was able to keep
pace with the with the Bills for the majority of.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
That contest of the year.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
But what what's what's what's not to make this game?
I mean, I know their division rivals, but it's not
like what it's not? Yeah, but when's the last time
the Patriots even competed for the division? They've just been
a team on the Bills schedule for the last couple
of years. Like, I don't, Britt, you can how much
juice is there to this post Belichick? When this team

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has been in the dumps.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
None, nobody's talking cares about this game.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
But so, but the issue with me is and why
I couldn't get this higher. I think there's a ton
of backdoor potential with Drake May and especially with Stefan
Diggs's revenge game. He's coming online, he looked great last week.
Is that this total is forty nine and a half.
I think it should be higher. So like points, the
points become meaningless, the points become a meaningless So.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
This is another game where I just don't know if
they can set the total high enough.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Man, I'm with you. I just who's getting stops in
this game?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah? So my angle here in real life, I bet
Patriots team total over twenty and a half because I
guess there's some scenarios in there where the Patriots get over,
but the game totally doesn't get over. So I just
felt a little safer with that. But a ton of
points here, so much variance results me why I couldn't
get the dog higher than bubbling my top five. Brett,
we'll keep it with you for the stinker of the week.

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As the Titans traveled to the desert to take on
the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals are seven and a half
point favorites in Pro Football. That's how bad Callahan's boys
are down in the Music City, and Brett, you have
the highest opinion taking the dog in this spot.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
I just can't stop clicking the Titans, man, I can't
stop doing. This goes back to last year. I just
I don't think this team is as bad as they
show up every and it's.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Got to be the coach. It's got to be coaching.
It's just but it's like, so you have.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
To do what I do. Listen, this is my plan.
I'm not clicking the Titans until Brian Callahan is fired.
It's that simple, guys.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Boy, what should this line be?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
That?

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Because the market it's baked in, how bad he is? Right? So,
like what I don't get it?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
How can it be baked in when he's three and
nineteen against the spread.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
And the worst part is is that in that bad
against the spread record, the Titans have only covered once
under Brian Callahan where they didn't win the game outright.
So it's not like when they're big dogs catching points
that they become competitive in these some second halves and
crawl back and get in through the back door. They

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just get their ass kicked for sixty minutes. It's crazy,
said on the other one on the Titans, because seven
and a half with Arizona, I don't know, I can't
do it.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hey, Arizona sucks.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
It was only five and a half against New Orleans,
Like it's got Yeah, it's just it's just Callahan, that's all.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
It is.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Like the Titans that much worse than.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
He's so in over his head. It is incredible, guys.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I have to I have to look it up because
Paul Kowarski. I think it's Kowarski, the beat writer for
the Athletic for the Titans. So the Titans, you know
how all these teams have those their stupid slogans And
was that oh that was the kid from Morgan yeah,

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or the other some some big white nest on a
back shoulder something. No fergus, that was the kid, look
at me, unprofessed god over here. So you know how
all these teams have their buzzwords and their slogans or whatever.
The Titans, since Callahan came in, is resilient, relentless. So
in the Tuesday Morning Press this week, the Athletic Meat

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reporter asked Ryan call Is, He's like, coach, do you
think this team is resilient and relentless? And Callahan was
so he literally was like I have to compose myself
before I say something I don't wash. Just incredible stuff.
The Titans are the worst. Callahan's gotta go. All right,
those are the split games. Let's get some lone wolves.

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Johnny once again leads the pack with three lone wolves,
but he is not here so and he's by the
way six and two the last two weeks in his
lone wolves, but no member of the collect it has
a lone wolf in their top five, which is always
a good sign. My highest one is the Houston Texans

(24:11):
traveling to Baltimore to take on the Ravens. My Son
disagrees vehemently with this pick. I mean this is one
of the weirdest games of the week. With the Lamar injury,
this line has moved from a look ahead of nine
and a half in favor of Baltimore all the way

(24:31):
to two in favor of the Houston Texans. This is
extremely low. I have no real opinion, but for those
of you that are watching on YouTube, you can tell
from that devilish grin and nod that Brett was showing
that this is rule of backup quarterback for him.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Ravens the classic classic market overreaction game. Twelve points of
line movement off the look ahead, and it's as extreme
as you're going to see in the NFL regular season.
And I just don't think it's justified by the resume
that Houston has put together. His offense has sputtered all
season long. The offensive line is a mess, and they
were in a six to zero slog with the team

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we were just talking about heading into the fourth quarter
last week. Meanwhile, Baltimore, I mean, they've run the gauntlet
of super teams here. If they played the Bills, the Lions,
the Chiefs, the one time they stepped down in class,
they they outplayed Cleveland, they annihilated them in the scoreboard,
but I mean they outplayed Cleveland. This is just a
well coached, desperate Ravens team at home getting points in

(25:35):
a game where they should be able to dictate dictate
the pace here, I mean I expect Carbaugh to lean
on the run game, protect rush gamble more defensively against
the Texans offensive line that hasn't shown it can hold
up against any kind of pressure.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
So I just I think this is I think it was.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Job in the in the discord that this is wrong
team favored, and I agree, I think this should just
be like Ravens minus one. This is the exactly the
kind of by low Sell high profile that we typically
like to target on this podcast. Is a veteran team
with a coaching advantage and literally everything to play for
this week. The Ravens have to win this game. I
feel like otherwise, I mean, you're you're one in four

(26:16):
close your ears.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Mickey doffs like.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
It's I'm not gonna say it because this division is
a disaster, but like I feel like they feel like
they have to win this game.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
They don't want to be one in four.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Bit dot l wi's last discord, Moose, if you want
to get in the discord and scrap it up. I'll
tell you that the game or the player that finally
switched me over to putting an X next to Houston
was seeing Kyle Hamilton go from a limited participant to
a d MP here on Thursday. Because it's like, who

(26:49):
is left on this defense? It's just it's crazy. No Humphrey,
no Roquan, no Woozy A. We saw Matt Bouquet go
on IR with the neck injury. Harbaugh says, that's probably
season ending. It's getting scary, Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Nate

(27:09):
Wiggins came back to practice this week today, excuse me,
which is a good sign for this Ravens team. But
I it's just an infirm reward over there. It just
could just be the season from hell for Baltimore. That said,
because of this insane line movement, I couldn't put any
gusto behind clicking Houston. We move to the AFC West

(27:33):
for the traveling team, which is the Kansas City Chiefs
who traveled to Jackson Middell take on the Jaguars, and
I am laying the three and a half points with
Kansas City. This cap to me was fairly simple. One
of my lower ones. I think it's an extremely fair line.
So I'm just gonna put an X next to the

(27:54):
greatest quarterback who's ever walked the earth, which is Patrick Mahomes.
I think this Jackson continues to be overvalued. I mean,
last week four to zero and the turnover department and
had a special team touchdown, and they still were only
able to eke out a five point victory. So I'm
just not as high as the market on this Jags team,
which is seventh and DVOA and seventh in net EBA play.

(28:16):
It's is just insane to me. So fair line and
this is nicely me probably showing some constraint by not
putting the Kansas City Chiefs any higher. MO has the
Jaguars bubbling his top five, however.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Just a spot where I think the Chiefs are going
to be maybe popular, and I kind of thought this
line should be three. But that being said, I have
a tough time. There's no way I can bet the
Jags because even though I'm just like okay, I do
want to kind of fade the team that looked the
best last week, which the Chiefs looked incredible, despite what

(28:55):
some idiot nerd at PFF thinks Man I just think
this Jags team isn't good. But at the same time
three and a half here, I'm gonna hesitantly click on
it and just fade the team that looked the best
last week. But it's not. It's not a spot I'm
excited about. I like you, I just don't think the

(29:17):
Jags are doing anything well besides running the ball really,
so I guess that should be a tough sell here,
But sometimes the Chiefs can be beaten on the ground,
and man, the Jaguars keep ripping off explosive runs, like
every week atn has a fifty yard touchdown. It's like
Brett said, is this the same guy? But this just
shows you, like how how bad the coaching and the

(29:41):
plan was for him the last couple of years. And
the O line too was horrific. I mean, he never
had anywhere to go. But at the same time, he
didn't look explosive generally, so you're like, Okay, maybe he's
toast too, But now that they have a good running
scheme up, he's doing work agains.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I just got done editing an interview with my guy
jj and and James James co who works with Harmond
over at Reception perception. And one of the one of
the projects co is taking on is he's starting to
chart running back usage and the differences between inside outside
zone versus gap scheme. And in his first year of charting,

(30:21):
the one thing that he noticed is just like, if
you can run good outside zone, you're just gonna smash.
And what he's what he's seen is that the big
difference is just he just sees technique when it comes
to offensive line, and that's just the major differences. Like
some offensive lines literally cannot block outside zone. They just

(30:45):
they don't. The guys are blocking the wrong people, They're
handing off to the wrong people. And I can certainly
believe it. I mean, we have the two guys on
our screen right now, McVeigh and Shanahan, like they get
their guys in the right spots on the offensive line
to block for outside tone. And like you said last week,
as you heard on the Athletic Football Show, Liam Cohen

(31:06):
might just be one of those dudes who understands how
to coach up the offensive line and get these guys
in the right position to create these explosives. So it's
something that I do have in the back of my mind,
but I just overall, I just can't get this jag
scene where the market has them currently. All Right, we'll
go to DP his trio of lone Wolves, because Brett
and Moe both have one lone Wolf each and it's

(31:27):
literally their last selection. Donnie's got the Giants plus two
down in New Orleans, and after dumping on the Saints
for multiple weeks, I absolutely love the Saints in this spot.
So we know the Giants are elite at one thing,

(31:48):
and that is pressuring the quarterback without needing to blitz.
It's interesting to see that they are tenth in blitz rate, nonetheless,
but we know how strong they are upfront and the
horses that they have at edge. The problem with that
in this contest is that Kellen Moore has created an
offense in which Spencer Rattler the ball hits his fingers

(32:09):
and he just throws it somewhere like there is not
going to be enough time in the play for the
Giants pass rush to likely have a giant impact in
this game. Rattler is fifth in the league in time
to throw and that's just the design of this offense.
So if that's the case, targeting this pretty awful giant

(32:30):
secondary might not be an issue. This horrific Giants linebacking
corps against Juwan Johnson, who I guess is the second
coming of Jimmy Graham down in New Orleans. I think
New Orleans can have offensive success in this game. And
then on the other side, it's Jackson Dart, who, let's

(32:50):
face it, he's the Aura king right now. The vibes
are high. He had one hundred yards passing and I'll
tell you what. I cut up film of him this
week for JJ in the AL twenty two. It didn't
look great on passing downs in the in the end
zone camp. So I think Jackson Dart is in for
a really bad day on the road here. I think

(33:11):
from fantasy perspective, I think he might still get it
done with his legs, but I am not confident in
this guy as a passer targeting guys not named the
league neighbors, and I think the Saints canna have offensive
success here. And Brett, you're with me. You also have
the Saints in your top five? Who is putting the
New Orleans Saints as favorites on their cards?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (33:33):
I think the Giants might be one of the favorite
plays this week because everybody's bought into the Jackson Dart
era New York. But really, like you said, what did
we see out of him last week? After that first
scripted drive? The offense was terrible and now they're without
their only legitimate weapon into passing game that neighbors is
a massive loss because who else like Wandale's not a
real receiver?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Who are they throwing ball?

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Is it Steve Slayton again? I mean Steve Slayton kind
of does. He's kind of that guy who steps up
when one's what is offense gonna look like?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
That?

Speaker 5 (34:03):
And on the other side, I like the Saints a
lot last week because partly because the offensive line was
at full strength for the first time all season. They
did lose ruiz uh in that game last week, but
there's more continuity with this unit now than there was
earlier in the season.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
The Saints are just.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
They're gritty, man, they have playmakers, They're able to stay
in games, they cover numbers. This does go against one
of our biggest rules, don't lay points with bad teams,
and this is a bad team. But for me, the
public perception of the the new Giants trump's that and
I'm happy to be on the unpopular side here, because

(34:41):
like you said, I don't think anybody's clicking on the Saints,
and Rich I want to talk. I want to talk
Saints survivor a little bit later.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I mean, if I'm willing to.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Oh, man, you said, no one, no one's going to
click on the Saints, and.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
No nobody going to click. That would be say it. Man.
It's definitely gonna depend on what happens here in his
contest tonight, because if we have only one entry remaining, Yeah,
I'll tell you this right now, it's certainly not going on.
The New Orleans says. We slide down Donnie's card as
he is once again on the E A G L

(35:20):
e S Eagles. As I reached for the sounder here
cockr and the shaking of Moe's head, there is an
indication that he has the Denver Broncos ah in.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, this is a game where I'm definitely going to
bet the Broncos. I'm actually gonna put real money on
this one. And let me tell you, guys, I'm ready
for the Eagles to just run back some some sort
of other block kick for the umpteenth straight week and
just I'm just gonna be sick breaking shit at Chris's
on Sunday. I know it's gonna happen, but I still

(35:55):
I can't help myself. I'm not positive the Eagles are
better than the Broncos and they're laying three and a half.
If it's the same thing I said against the Rams
and what happened, the Rams came out kicked their ass
anything on special teams, so they lose. Maybe that'll happen
to the Broncos. I don't know, but I can't predict it. Man,

(36:15):
I cannot predict it, so I have to just go
by what I see, which.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Is the Broncos. First of all, I don't think it's
a secret that.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
We're not big bow Knicks fans. Okay, if you force
bow Nicks into must pass situations with a mediocre receiving
corps that I think you can just punk. If you
have some cornerbacks who have some physicality. Everyone outside of
Courland Sutton is basically a shrimp on this receiving core.

(36:47):
So you just come up and punk these guys, they're
not gonna get open. But I don't think the Eagles
can do that. Why because this team cannot stop the run,
so they keep.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Getting ran on. And if you can it ran.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
On, it opens up the Broncos play action. It opens
up the Broncos bootlegs.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
This is so embarrassing for the Rams.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Dude, Jared Vers just keeps getting stuck. I'm so mad
that I even used his names of the thought he
just keeps He just runs into the navel of a
of an offensive lineman and just gets stuck.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Like, come on, my guy, He's used to bowling people over.
But the forty nine ers they have silverback, bro, that's
not gonna work. Like anyways, Yeah, it'll open up the
play action and you know what happens, the bootlegs, They're
gonna be wide open.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I think so Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I just think the Broncos offensive plan is probably gonna
work here. And then you have a nood alarm quarterback
on the other side against the defense that gets in
your face, and you have a cornerback who can match
up with their best weapon. I just I think this
is a good spot to play the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
It sucks.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
They look so good last week, but everyone's just convinced
the Eagles are great because they keep winning. Outplay somebody
man outplay somebody.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Brett Pylon went at Denver the twenty eighth in knit
net yards per play. I'm not convinced this is even
a good football team.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
I'm with mo.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
I think Denver might just be better than Philly, and
several metrics show that Denver has performed better this season.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Just I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
I don't agree with this number, and I don't think,
given what has happened with these two teams so far
this season, that the market is rating them appropriately. Here like,
the Broncos are two and two, but they might be
the most underachieving team so far this year. I saw
that they've held they held a sixty five percent win
probability in the fourth quarter in all four of their
games this season, and they're sitting at two and two. Meanwhile,

(38:36):
the Eagles should have lost to the Rams. They're winning
games with a lot of variants in special teams. I
came into the season very high on Denver. I'm still
very high on this team versus the market. I expect
this offensive line the best in the NFL too. Like mosaid,
just capitalize in a plus matchup in the trenches against
this Eagles run defense that has been below average through

(38:59):
four games far worse than below average. I mean, this
is one of the worst run defenses through four games,
and even with the hook here, I expect Philly to
be the more popular side because like most set again,
like people are just buying in they're undefeated.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
They're just bullying teams. I don't buy that. They're not.
They haven't been good at.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Actual football this year, and like special teams is what
it is, is part of football.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Man, They're good at one thing, which is special team.
They're the best, the best ever.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Good luck, I guess good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah, I'm so confused by Aaron Shafts. If you're listening
special teams DA is just like broken because the Eagles
are twenty first. The Jets I think our fifth, and
all we do is fumble kickoff returns in the massive situation.
So I think the guys at FtM need to get
on that well hashtags.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
He wrote up a thing about that this week. He
basically said that they're doing they don't know what to
do with the new kickoffs. They've been all over the
place with that, and they don't give credit for blocked
kicks basically because they don't see them as predictive, which
I get, but I mean, don't you have to isn't
this supposed to be backwards looking?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
He himself has said several times that DBA is less
predictive and more backwards analysis. Yeah. This Philly defense upfront
third and rush defense success rate thirty first and adjusted lineyards. Meanwhile,
Denver fifth and adjusted lineyards first in adjusted sack rates.

(40:28):
Dp's last lone wolf Raiders at Colts. He's laying the
seven points with the Indianapolis Colts, and I think an
older version of me would have run to the window
to place wagers on Vegas, to put them at the
top of my card, having less faith in this Colts

(40:51):
team than the market. However, with a total that again
I think should be ig north of what it's hanging
right now forty eight and a half, I think this
should be pushing fifty. I just think there's a ton
of variants in this game, a lot of points to
be had, which makes the seven points that Vegas is

(41:11):
getting a lot less meaningful. You've got a Colts team that,
let's face it, if eighty Mitchell isn't a complete moron.
Last week we go three and two and the Colts
get a massive win in Los Angeles, so they've got
that sour taste in their mouth coming back off of
a loss like that. So this moves. This did move

(41:34):
a point in favor of India, regardless, because everybody saw
in that four o'clock window of Gino do it again?
Turn them all over a million times. Vegas is negative
four in the turnover differential department, twenty sixth in turnover EPA.
So I'd like, don't love the Raiders in this spot,

(41:57):
and yeah, I think an older version of me would
have had the Raiders higher. I do have them in
my top five because I don't love the options this week,
but not the biggest fan of Vegas. All right, let's
head across the pond to the immaculate Tottenham Hotspur Football Stadium,

(42:34):
where the Minnesota Vikings will be taking on the Cleveland Browns.
The Vikings were in Ireland last week, so short flight
over to the capital of Britain, and the Browns are
not only coming to town, Brett, but they're coming to
town with a brand new quarterback in Oregon's Dylan Gabriel.

(42:56):
And with your very last pick, you put an X
next to the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah, did the same thing. I did last week.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
I just put the overseas game at the bottom because
this one especially. I mean, the one thing I did
say last week is that if a team is staying overseas,
then I might have a lean in this game. But
there's just too there's too many unknowns to have a
play on this. How many starters of the Vike's gonna
be down? Can Minnesota contain this Browns pass rush? The

(43:25):
fear is that Cleveland's defense can create enough positive starting
position for Gabriel to actually put points on the board,
or the Carson wentzro is just a hand points over
to the Browns defense. I just want nothing to do
with this. I totally get it with the Vikings if
you like that side, but I can't do it with

(43:45):
this offensive line looking the way it did last week
and Wentz back there, man, the guy just a turnover machine.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
I can't I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I just can't get past a Day three quarterback with
a noodle alarm traveling to another.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
He was a Day too quarterback. To be fair, he
was he's throw round.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Okay, Day two quarterback with a noodle arm who threw
four interceptions in the red zone in unprofession last year,
traveling to another country to make his first NFL start
against the Brian Flores defense. I just I can't get
over that. I'm sorry. I don't know where they need
to put this number for me to not like Minnesota,

(44:26):
but I don't think three and a half is enough
when they've been chilling in a wildly different time zone
for a week now, and this team needs to get
over there, get adjusted, and play a pro football game.
So I agree, these dnps for Minnesota are very frightening.

(44:46):
It would be nice to see even one of these
guys pop off, but it doesn't seem likely when like
Donovan Jackson and Van Ginkle already have the out designation. McCarthy,
we know he's going to be out in this game,
so yeah, it would be and Kelly as well. Like

(45:07):
how does the concussion protocol even work in another country?
Does it is?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Do they have a independent neurologist there that has to
get him off the protocol? I don't know. So I
really want to love the Vikings, And if we're talking
survivor Devil later on, then I want to bring up
Minnesota in addition to your devil. New Orleans moves over there, laughing.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I'm just trying to I'm just I'm laughing because I'm
imagining Brett waking up in a fury watching this game.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
I might not wake up to watch it. I might
just skip it and go.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
I might just find something else to do, because I know,
I just this is going to be gross.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Vikings man, if they can just get any semblance of
protection from some warm bodies up front, with all the
talent that they have in koc scheming it up, like,
just get to fourteen points and don't make any mistakes
because I just don't how how did the rounds? How

(46:12):
does the broun operate?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Imagine Carson Wentz not making mistakes? Yeah, just imagine that.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Definitely. All right, Moe, bring us home. You are laying
the two and a half points on the road against
my fight. Tell us why you've got the boys against
the Jets everything.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Let me just start off by saying, I knew I
was going to be a lone wolf on this game.
I would have laid minus five hundred that you guys
were going to take the Jets. But it's just and
and I kind of wanted to love the Jets. I
get it because last week the Jets arguably outplayed Miami,
and you have a Cowboys team coming off an incredible
performance Dak probably played his ninety nine point ninth percentile performance,

(47:04):
and you have a Jets team that has Sauce Gardner
who can take away hopefully George Pickens.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I mean, I know that.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Sauce hasn't played as well the last couple of years,
and maybe we've already seen the best of Sauce Gardner,
but this is the type of player he should thrive against.
Is basically a more physical type of receiver who isn't gonna,
you know, beat him with shiftiness. I think that's I
think everything is setting up so many injuries on this

(47:32):
Cowboys offensive line. I think everything is setting up so
perfect for the Jets. And I know all I've said
is good things about the Jets so far. But here's
the problem. The coaching mismatch is enormous. Guys, love I
love how Brian Schottenheimer's been coaching the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Nobody thought this was a good team.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Before the season, and they're just coming out playing good football,
going for fourth downs. Seawan Heimer is doing everything he's
supposed to do. Man, Like everyone dumped on that higher
but I think you can't say anything bad about what
he's doing. And then on the other side you have
Aaron Glenn, who is terrible. I'm sorry Rich that you

(48:12):
are stuck with another dreadful coach. And hey, listen, maybe
he'll learn, maybe he'll.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Figure it out.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I'm not saying that this is impossible. I'm just saying
right now, this man is overmatched. And so I just
can't get past this coaching matchup. Man, the penalties, the
turnovers every week, the Jets look like an undisciplined bunch
of losers, man, and the Cowboys just come out and
do what they're supposed to do. I can't get past that.

(48:39):
This is a massive mismatching coaching.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I will say, if Kenna Nuwangu doesn't pull his hamstring
on the first kick return of the season, the Jets
are probably two and two. They're definitely one in three.
They beat the Steelers in that game if they don't
fumble a subsequent kickoff Xavier Gibson. So I get it.
The penalties last week were awful, right, And the only

(49:06):
thing you could chalk that down to is coaching, Right,
that's preparation one oh one. But Man, the Jets in
terms of success rate are top five on both offense
and defense. It's just these high leverage spots where third
and longs they're giving up and turnovers. Can those things

(49:30):
be cleaned up? I honestly have no idea, right, but
it is such an introduction of variants that it is
so hard for me to have an opinion on this
team from week to week because those plays. I mean
literally every game they've handed their opponent ten to fourteen
points every game from turnovers and mistakes. So yeah, I

(49:52):
mean I clicked the Jets, but I have them super low. Brett,
you have the highest opinion. Get us out of the
lone wolf segment defending gang gree.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, I mean, really, it's it's selling Dallas off a
really just a crazy game against Green Bay last week.
But even more importantly, I'm just buying the Jets when
when the majority of the contest I feel like is
going to be on Dallas here short of three give
me Fields, give me this offense that has been better
than the scoreboard shows. The whole team has been far

(50:23):
better than the scoreboard shows. But Field, specifically against a
puture defense, I think he gets right in this game
and yeah, so I like, uh, I like the Jets.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Mason Taylor man best Jets tight end of my lifetime already,
like catching and turning up field. I mean, who is it?
Anthony Beck?

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Game? Like?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Literally, I think Anthony Beck is the greatest Jets tight
end in my lifetime.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
It's I just remember looking at this roster the last
couple of years and being floored that they could not
get a better tight end than the guys whole my
whole life something Jeremy Rucker.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Guys state legend. I think a quarter season of Austin
Safarian Jenkins is the only thing that like competes with
Anthony Beck. It's crazy, all right, the Lone Wolves, I've
got the Texans and Chiefs, Donnie's got the Giants, Eagles

(51:19):
and Colts. Brett's on the Browns, moson dem boys. Let's
make the week five card.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Nine eight.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Five four three dude one fire DP went a perfect
five and zero last week, and he is taking us
to London because his top pick was sniped and he
is laying the three and a half with the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Okay, this is so, then then you can't you can't
take Vikings and survivor if we have to sweat this
on like.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
What, I'll tell you what if if the if the
Rams do lose tonight, then I will be going with
a chalk ear option this weekend. It's not going to
be the ultimate chalk you you there's I don't think
there's an amount of money you could pay me to
click the Arizona Cardinals this weekend, but I will take

(52:27):
a more chalk here option. All right, Brett, you can
get the taste out of London, of London out of
your mouth by putting your selection.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
On the cart brocos.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, none of these selections are consensus picks, because there's
only one consensus pick this week, and it is the
collective pick. Mow, You're up next with a home dog.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Get excited, Brett. Jake Browning's back on the card Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
We're back, baby, fading, Dan Campbell trying to score a thouance.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I mean yeah, listen, they could be down sixteen points
and cover this on the final possession though.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
That's I mean, this is why in real life I
had money on Saints plus fifteen and a half last week,
because when you get these massive dogs and everything looks
like it's meaningless all it takes is one drive to
get you at the number. All right, I am up next.
I too had my top pick sniped by the Collective.

(53:39):
So we are going to the Bayou and laying two
points with Spencer Rattler and the New Orleans Saints. I
love it, all right, let's get to the Collective machine.
I made this sounder at some point last year when
a certain someone had a bit of a rent naissance,

(54:01):
and maybe this will give him the kick in the
pants that he needs.

Speaker 7 (54:06):
The Collective chooses the best QB from the twenty twenty
three draft, Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Poor CJ. Stroud out here, catch and strange. We've got
the Panthers on the card. Panthers plus one made every
single member of the Collective's top five. It was, of course,
Donnie and I's number one pick. And we are fading
a team that just played on Monday Night football in

(54:49):
the greatest football team, the greatest football team, a Dolphins
team that will be without Tyreek Hill running routes for
them and Brett. This is something you've talked about all season.
The home road splits for Bryce Young. He gets to
return to the comfy confines of the Queen City of Charlotte.

(55:12):
And on top of that, he gets to throw passes
against a team that is thirty first in defense EPA,
thirty first against the pass, twenty second in pressure rate.
If there's ever a time for Bryce to get back
on tract Brett, it's this league.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Absolutely. I mean we saw what he did to the
Falcons two weeks ago. We saw what he did to
bad teams in Charlotte last year. The home road splits
with Carolina are real, and I think you just have
to plug your nose here and click this team after
they got demolished on the road again last week. This
is this is just a beautiful spot and it is
a very collective play. So I'm happy we're on it.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
MO put a pin on Caroline.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yeah, I had the Panthers favorite. I mean, I hate it,
but I did Miami. It just it's it's basically the
inverse of everything we were just talking about with the Jets.
I mean, for the for the Jets to do all
that stuff, they had to outplay somebody, and the team
they outplayed was Miami, And it was kind of convincing

(56:20):
in some ways. I Mean, the Jets did whatever they
wanted on offense in that game. So with a good
offensive line here and a decent running game, you know,
it just comes down to ken. These Panthers wide receivers win,
and they definitely should. As bad as these guys are,
they definitely should against you know, the worst group of

(56:44):
corners probably in the NFL here with with the Dolphins.
So yeah, I don't know how Panthers are gonna get stops,
but maybe they won't need to. And yeah, I just
think I think the wrong team is favored here.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Man. I don't see much difference between these teams, and
the Panthers are home underdogs.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
The Jets were one point seven net yards for play
in the positive last week against the Stolphins team on
the road, saying that they were eleven points better in
that contest. ODB, close your ears because the card is
Carolina and Bryce Young Minnesota and Carson Wentz this one.

(57:32):
He's happy about your boy, Denver and Bonix Cincinnati and
Jake Browning and New Orleans and Spencer Rattler. We are
all the way back, maybe, Okay. Survivor Moe has his
selection right now down ten as the second half opens

(57:54):
here in the City of Angels and for me this week,
because like I said, I am, I do not want
to click the Arizona Cardinals. I want to I always
want to fade chalk, especially want to fade chalk when
it's a mid to bad football team, which Arizona certainly is.

(58:18):
And the next most popular projection is the Indianapolis Colts,
who I would I'm really interested in next week as
they play host to the Arizona Cardinals. I think you're
going to be able to get them at very low ownership.
And then in a couple of weeks they of course
play host to the Tennessee Titans, so they are going

(58:38):
to be an option again as well, which will be
tastier if a good chunk of people take them this week.
I can be convinced though, by you guys that this
is going to actually be sub twenty percent. People are
going to be looking towards that Week eight and save
them to play against Tennessee, so I can be more
convinced of Indianapolis than Zona. The next most popular selection

(59:04):
and the one that probably has the highest win odds
this week, is a team that we're picking against, and
that's the Deroit Lions. Brett doesn't like that the big
issue with Detroit is that they play on both island slates,
Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I am increasingly becoming more interested
in them on Thanksgiving, specifically playing host to the Packers,

(59:27):
because they're going to be a very nice pivot off
of Philadelphia and Baltimore, who are probably going to make
up seventy or eighty percent of the selections that week.
Of course, the Packers are amazing. You know, it's not
a spot that you're in love with. But if you're
not going to go ultra leverage with either the Bengals

(59:51):
or the Bears, catch the ball corn or was that
a bad throw to come?

Speaker 4 (59:54):
I mean, what is this man?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
So that's the issue with the Detroit Lions. And then
there's the Devil selection. I'm not I don't want to
take the Bills either. I'm I think they have way
better spots than a New England offense that could just
pop and have some success here. So the other options
then are Minnesota, Seattle, and I guess Brett, no, don't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
I can't sell you. I can't not not in circa.
I can definitely sell you on the Saints in like
a like a splash pool where you have to use
twenty five teams, but no, not a kicker.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Every kicker in the league is making man making fifty,
just layups for everyone until somebody I bet on has
a fifty yarder.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Then it's just blocked for six or just missed by
ten yards man, and it's all because of that bum.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Kirene something Katie from Elon, North Carolina. By the way,
nice kick, my guy. So that's where I'm at. If
if we lose this entry and we feel like we
need to go a little bit chalkier, I can be
talked into Indianapolis, but again it's Gino indoors, so I'm
not feeling super confident there. But the team I've honestly

(01:01:15):
been circling all week is is Minnesota. Absolutely no future value. Again,
Dylan Gabriel on the road in a different country against
Brian Flores, it's just too enticing for me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
I guess my question to you is, why would the
result of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
This game impact what you do with your entry?

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Oh, just to if reducing variants even by a pinch
is helpful. Obviously we don't have the largest portfolio with
just two entries remaining, but it might be a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Week we have one entry remaining the Rams. No show.
This is a joke, man. They played like dog shit today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
And I got a screaming kid. So I think I'm
kinda thank on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Do whatever you want, man, I'm just disgusted right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I follow these guys on Twitter at break Colson c
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double W A R A H. I'm at rich t Ryan.
We will tweet out my selection and we'll we'll be
sweating home this Rams. Come on, McVeigh staff. See you
guys next week. Peace