June 29, 2023 • 46 mins
Glenn and Mindy have an intimate chat with long time friend Keith Harkin. A very accomplished singer/songwriter from Derry City, Ireland. From shows at the White House with President Obama to Necker Island With Richard Branson. David Foster signed him as one of his first artists with Verve Records and he became #1 on the Billboard Charts. Their friendship has taken them around the world, and they talk about their role models, and favorite mentors. But who he admires the most may surprise you.
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Hi, I'm Mindy Sterns and I'mGlenn's Sterns, and this is Great Happened.
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inspired. So let's get started.This is Great it happens. We're back
for another episode of Great Happens.Thank you for joining us. So,
you wrote a book. There's alot of book. You wrote a book,
huh, And we've been talking aboutyour book. I'm a little tired
of talking about that. Oh mygod, so am I. I know
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it's all you talk. Oh no, I can't wait to hear more about
your book. Actually, since itcame out, we've had a lot of
really good feedback about the book.There's a people like they're saying they can't
put it down. It's they loveit cover to cover. They love the
vulnerability and that you you go aheadto expose all your flaws to the world.
People laugh at you. I mean, if I had a a I'm
not exposed them, but I don't. But but there are not only great
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stories, there's great people, greatcharacters. And one of your favorites is
with us today. Her it happened, Um and I started out with a
bromance, and I'd love to talkabout that. Well, why don't we
just bring on a character who's appeareda lot in the later part here of
the last ten years or so,and in more than ten years he really
yes, been more like fifteen.Oh my god, introducing our dear friend,
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Um, extraordinary, extraordinary talent andmusician, father, husband, son,
brother and friend, mister Keith Argan. How you doing, Keith?
What's happening? Folks to see youspeaking Irish? That's his dialect in case
you gotta press, you gotta pressread for you know some idols around knife.
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Yeah, exactly, I love it. I do love it. It's
it's great and your music is fantastic. I mean, starting obviously as a
member of Celtic Thunder, and wecan go back, we can talk about
how you're involved in Glenn's stories,but first talk about how when you first
met Keith. Just do a little, do a little. I love the
story when you first when you firstsaw one. Folks. We are part
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of a group that was called theMuhammad Ali Us Fight Night. It was
a celebrity event. It was abig charity event. David Foster did all
the production and brought on the talentand introduced new talent. I mean he
introduced people like Josh Grobin, MichaelBoublay. You know, he brought out
Ciara are always bringing out new talent. Yeah, just the host. It
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was an amazing event, and sothis one year I would never forget because
he says, yeah, you know, um, I brought out a lot
of talent. This is David Foster. I brought out a guy no one
had heard of him before. Hisname was Michael Bay. It became pretty
good. Then I brought out anotherguy and you guys never heard of him.
His name was Josh Girl. Thename Josh Grobin. Hey did all
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right, here's this next guy.He's just gonna blow them away. This
guy is so great, blah blahblah. And I'm like, who is
this guy? And then alt comesKeith and he gets up there and I've
said Keith's bright rolling his eyes rightnow. I'm sure you are, but
I've said this among times. Buthe gets up there and he starts talking,
and he's got that swagger and you'releaning against the microphone and I was
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like, man, I his blondehair just kind of breast off his face,
just these little dimple the though darling, and immediately Glenn had a man
crush. Well I thought, no, I thought, mean, I'd like
to be like that guy. Youknow, I'd love to be able to
have that swagger and that confidence andthat talent. You do have that swagger,
Glenn, you have that swagger.Well I don't have it, and
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you got a talent maybe, butuh yeah. So we watched that performance.
It was awesome. I mean,here you are in front of Muhammed
Ali and he's young kid, ownedit, owned it. And so I
was really, you know, impressedwith people that are confident and have talent.
So later that night we were downstairsat the roy yeah, at the
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little club thing after party, andsomehow you and I bump into each other
and I was like, man,I'm so happy for you, which is
very true that I love watching peoplein that mode of step into their greatness.
Yeah, exactly, just being ableto step into your your life and
your greatness and so we had totalk and I thought, you know,
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you were fantastic. And then Iget up early in the morning, I
have to take a flight to NewYork. And who do I sit next
to? But you crazy? Howweird is that I didn't sleep on that
whole flight, did you? Andwe don't? We don't. We talked
most of the way there in fairness. Yeah, and then you went to
a concert that night with a bunchof suits, right, a bunch of
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Wall Street guys, And Keith says, come on, buy my show,
and I'm like, all right,I will and and I had all these
yeah Wall Street guys that were allstuck in suits, and I took them
there to see you, and anduh, that was really the beginning of
an amazing friendship. You know,It's how we got oh mom, Yeah,
that was also I also remember too, like, you know, lots
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of people always say that they'll cometo your show, and uh, normally
when people say that, You're like, yeah, all right, cool,
I'll see you there. I'll seeyou at the show. Sure. An
off Gland that are rave not onlyon his own, but with like eight
other dudes who seemed extremely uncomfortable atthe time at the performance. Yeah,
Oh my god, that it wasso great because we ended up you know,
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just I think I got to seemore of your talent. And then,
um, I don't remember how ithappened, but I think it was
Necker the next get together? Wasthat the next one? Yeah, maybe
doing an event? Maybe maybe itwasn't, But I remember when we got
to Neckar. That timeframe, wehad been doing some events with Richard Branson
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and it was a charity event wherewe brought people together to gather on Neckar
Island and sell it. The themewas like surviving and thriving and we brought
some Horatial alger scholars who had justrecently received their scholarship in DC and it's
an organization we're part of. It'sa big scholarship for kids who overcome adversity
and you know, made their livesabout being a victor, not a victim.
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And we had some really great influentialcharacters that were there, great speakers,
great resources and talent who had,you know, incredible skills to you
know, contribute to the ambiance andthe fun of the event. The good
and bad about that was we hadalso invited Michael John's besides Keith yea,
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and Michael dear dear friends. Forthose out there that remember Michael, he
was a um American idol um singerfrom Australia, did really well and he
was too. Oh he had swaggerand he was an amazing fun guy and
we were really really tight and wedid a lot together. We had Michael
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there, but Michael was struggling withalcohol at the time and he had um
you know, he he's struggling,and so when he was there, he
had quit. But um, ohno, was that the time. No,
he had like a heat stroke onthe tennis chord and then yeah,
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yeah the first time, the firsttime he was, we were all there.
Um, you're right, though Michaelwas. It was a rock star
sple is that either it either haveit or you don't. Michael had that
in spades, but he he wasMichael was struggling at the time, you
know, and I wish I hada no one hard much. He was
struggled, to be honest. Yeah, I feel pretty bad about that myself.
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And he was as he since passedand you know, we still remember
him. But we'd go back toNecker, the idea that your talent was
just so incredibly like moving that afterthe gathering had kind of culminated, you
were invited to stay on Richard Richard, Hey, Glenn, do you mind
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if I asked he he'd stayed formy birthday? I said, I don't
own Keith. I go Keith cando you know what he wants? And
I'd like to I appreciate you askingme, but you know, I'm sure
he'd be flattered by don't you askhim? And so I was on social
media, you know, every nowand then, checking in and there you
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are on Necker Island playing. Ithought, how good for him? About
three days that there you are onNecker Island playing. Then at three,
how long is Keith there? Imean you stayed there forever? Getn't you
like three? I basically moved onand I was there for like three and
a half four weeks. And theykept saying, you know, you're just
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getting this caught in this trap ofabsolute paradise. And I was, you
know, a young early twenties,mud twenties kid, and I had important
things to do. But at theend of the day, nothing was more
important to getting me sit on NeckerIsland and play music for all these cool
people. And I just put I'llnever remember the record company and all these
people like calling going where where areyou? Like what you said you were
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leaving on a Thursday and you'd beback on Monday. That was November.
I was like, I'm not comingback. I'm not remember like Wolf of
Wall Street where he's like, I'mnot leaving. I'm not leaving. That
That was me on Necker Island,and I remember they were just like Richard
was like just stay yeah, andI should have pictures of you on that
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on the sailboat. Remember that's whereyou were living. I think he was
living on his on his his catamaran. Yeah, but yeah, that is
kind of our start, right washow we got to know Keith and and
fall in love with him, youknow, and and god, we've done
so many things together since then.Again, that's probably fifteen years ago at
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least. I don't know. Doyou remember the year? Do you have
any idea of the year? Sadly, you know, time and all I
can of stuff to me is anabsolute blur when you're traveling so much and
doing gigs and you just you justcan't remember the good ones. You know,
some of the good ones there areyou're in, you're in a couple
of chapters here chapter twenty two andtwenty three, letting go of the Past,
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Be Real, be Humble, bekind Um and Keith. The stories
of Keith weave into you and someof the things you were doing, and
obviously with Michael and that type ofthing and in the kind of the era
with him and just kind of howyou guys. You know, there's something
about you know, a lot ofpeople have a feeling about people who in
the music business is that they justreally don't maybe don't know what's going on,
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and a lot of people are pullingthe strings around them. And what
I've always known about you, andwhat we have always recognized is you have
you possessed this level of grit thata lot of them lack in the sense
that you've got a real you camefrom a really good family, came from
a lot of support, and you'vereally made a place for yourself and took
control of your career and really kindof took the reins on how you wanted
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to create the career that you have. And talk a little bit about how
you set yourself apart in that ina really gritty industry, if you will,
Yeah, it is you know,the music business like every business.
I think the thing with music businessis not a lot of people relais.
It's a business. Yeah. Notonly do you have to have whatever saying
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it youerrong. You have to havethat thing that no one else can do,
that no one else can can achieveand perform. But you also have
to have the grit to stand thereand tell people that you're the best that
doing it and actually do it aswell and back it up. Furthermore,
you have to be there every daywith people telling you that you can't do
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it, and people telling you thatyou're no good at it, and people
telling you that you shouldn't be doingthis and you shouldn't be singing that,
And yeah, I just decided togo my own way. I could have.
I honestly feel like I had manyopportunities to probably take the easy right
and to probably sell for me anyway. I'm just saying it was selling
out for me. You know,I could have probably done the whole cover
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song thing and became the next likeyou know, doing albums like not knocking
them it's their own thing, likeMichael Boogley and all these different artists or
just they just you know, theyreleased all these albums, covers and stuff,
and I was offered that on aplate many times by many high rollers
in the music industry, even inbeing a Celtic Thunder. I mean I
was one of the main guys inCeltic Thunder for a decade. You were
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featured many times, you were Iwas the blonde hair, blue eyed poster
boyd that they always stuck in themiddle of everything. And you know,
we released I don't even know,maybe twelve thirteen, fourteen albums, ten
PBAs special specials. We sold overa couple of million records worldwide. We
had the second highest gross from everPBS special on on PBS and the only
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other one and beat it. Thething was a Woody Go three charity thing.
Wow. I could have quite easilyhave stayed there with the suit on
me that everybody was folding for meand handed me every day and taking the
easy wage. And again, youknow, when I started that, I
never even intended to do that formore than a year or two. And
after ten years, I had awalk and people probably think I'm crazy.
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In fact, sometimes I think I'mcrazy. You know, I had a
tourbus. There was three or fourtour buses. There was a band of
nine we had. You just openedthe fridge on the bus and everything was
there. You walked into the room, your socks would fold it. And
I decided to leave that on myown will and go and buy a van
and torture myself to death and drive, yeah, and full my own socks
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if there's any left in the bag, and driving myself around the world,
driving myself as every mile I'd drivethe crazier I get, and my per
band they're getting crazier with me,and I wouldn't have it any other way
because that's the way I wanted todo it. Well, that's an artist
versus right, I mean that youwere an artist, and there's a big
difference. You get back to thegrid and you have to you have to
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honker doing You've only one chance ofdoing it, you know. And I
don't want to sit there in anor ten or twenty years time and think
to myself, you know, ah, that was a great career. You
made a lot of money, youplayed music in front of a lot of
people. But nonetheless, if it'snot what you want to do for me,
I'm so glad that I've went myown way and I've still done extremely
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well, I would say even betterdoing my own way, and I'm a
lot happier. Is it a lotmore work? Is it more? Hell?
One, I'm a lot happier fordoing it. That makes sense because
to your point, you know,having someone else be able to hold your
clothes and all that, but thenyou're doing what they want versus doing what
you want, and you know thenyou're not true to yourself, right,
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and so you you live with factthat you are, you know, taking
you're allowing money to rule your lifeversus what you want to do with your
life. And it's a very interestingdynamic because there's a lot of people that
put money as their god versus happinessand fulfillment, you know. And so
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I've watched you go and go allover the world and do what you do,
and you know, there's a lotof people out there that admire you
for that. And you see peoplethat love your own songs, right,
not that you can sing somebody else'ssong. Yeah, it's been fun to
kind of be a fly on thewall. I guess you'd say, you
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know when it comes to that.But we've had a lot of great times
Keith, where you know, Ithink of gosh, so many I mean
being kicked out of my own house, you know, and into a room,
then another room, another room,and then finally into the garage.
Get out of the garage. WereOh my god. We were in Jackson
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Hall and I was trying to putthe kids down, and Keith and Glenn
and a couple other guys were there. They were playing music just on the
other side of the wall in thebar, and I'm like, oh my
god, the kids are never goingto sleep. I'm like, guys,
move it. They move into thekitchen area, and then I'm like,
guys, I can still hear you, So they move in the garage.
I come out. You guys areliterally sitting in the garage on a bench
like in front of the cars.You guys are all just like five of
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you. I remember. I rememberwe were singing eagle songs and I was
like, Kennel whispering up then andthen like I think somebody does come out
and like open the door. We'resorry, yeah, and then we just
start jam and getting in trouble.I forgot about that. That was that
was Ne's. That was around Near'sEve. Yeah, Ram that we went
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up to his house for karaoke.No did we was that? Were you
there when we got to I don'tremember, but yeah, but that was
fun money and then um the timethat I was talking to my captain on
the boat. Hey, so what'sgoing on? Like We're going to go
to the F one race when Glennie'sfish spear and three days? Okay,
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well what are we going on?Nothing? Glenn, I've been bugging you
for a month. What do youmean that? Well, you got the
Prince Albert and Princess Charlene coming onyour boat and you have nothing. I'm
like nothing, Why didn't you bugGlenn? Have been bugging you? Keith?
Can you help me what? Ineed? You to fly to Monty
Carlo, get your stuff and weneed to sing and Brenda, Prince,
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Prince Charlie, Princess Arlen. Okay, hops on the plane. That was
the real being in Monica. Ifanyone's ever been to F one like you
can't. It is like an experiencelike no other. Every time I see,
every time I see anything Formula onerelated, monacle and put I'm such
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a smile in my face because Iknow that trip of any was honestly some
of the most serene moments of mylife. I don't I ad myer formula
one. I'm a car guy,motorbike guy, anything with an engine.
But for some reason, for whenI was a kid, I always said
to myself, one day, I'mgoing to sit on a boat there and
watch that. And I doesn't evensee it, but it was honestly a
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notion I've had since I was asfar back as I can remember, so
whenever I was there doing it.I remember sitting that night, Glenn,
you handed me a guitar that wason the boat. It only had five
strings, and for those of youdon't know, it's a guitar is supposed
to have six strings. And thePrince and Princess a Monacle or sitting in
front of me, and Glan's like, just just getn't sing. Let's good.
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Five strings. That's the Prince ofMonacle with five strings. I mean,
I'm good, but I'm not fivestrings game. And I remember going
up there and from where I wassitting, you were sitting with the princess
and Monday you were sitting with aprince and a SPA song of mine as
a song by guy called Peter Starsteadand it's about the Prince of Monica's mum,
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and I just said, sing wheredo you go to, my lovely?
And I remember singing that song letme Dad taught me from when I
was four or five years old.I haven't singing that song. And I
was sitting there playing to the personthat's a boat and sitting there and the
race track and all the big TVsand there's a helicopter blade sitting about in
my head. And it was oneof those moments where I stepped out of
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my own body and said to memyself, take a photograph, keeps remember
this is this is a good one. This is a really good one.
Oh that is so beautiful. Andyou brought it to between you and Robbie
did the combat of you guys too. I just remember you after singing like
Beatles songs and just Live and letDie on the deck of a yacht in
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Monaco. I mean, it isa It is the stuff dreams are made
of. It really is that.So you know, you've been such a
part like and kind of looking atkind of the thirty thousand viewpoint of between
you and Glenn and the relationship,what is it that you feel like has
been the core thing between you two, Like, what, what's what's created
this bond of respect between you two? I think, well, I think
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Glen as different as we are,we're very similar. And the sense that
like, you know, uh,like I was just saying, you have
to go your own way and agood thing with Glen was just saying there,
you know, don't make money orGod. Even though Glen has been
very successful in his life, Ialways feel like glanced on the things that
he likes to do, he's donethe thing. Well, you know,
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it's not sorry. You don't alwaysdo the things you like to do,
but have already achieved the things youlike to do. You have to do
some dirty work in order to getthere. But Clan is always beat up
by his own drome, you know, And I feel like that's how he
has made it. And that's theway I also feel in my life and
my career. That's why I've madeit because I've went my own way.
And eventually, if you stick thatout and if you hammer that out,
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you will get there. As cornyand as cliche as that, as I
truly believe, if you're a willingthey put it all out there and put
your neck on the line and don'tback down from no man or woman or
anything in between. I feel likeyou'll get there, and I feel like
that's why I get Glen. Youknow, Glen is exactly the same and
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spades more as well on top ofthat, and I feel like that's why
I get Glen. And also alot of people I have met like Glen.
You know, Glenn, you arebut of a suit too, You
do like they wear a suit everynow and again. You do work in
the offices. I won't hold you. I won't hold it against you.
I won't hold it against you.But a lot of people who do that
as well, you know, theyhaven't got much rock and roll on them.
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They haven't got much fun on them. And I hate to say it,
but a lot of the guys you'reup there like that that is their
god and that is all they wantto do and that is all they say,
whereas Glenn isn't like that. Youknow, Glen, you get it.
You love having a good laugh,you love having a phone. There's
rock and rolling you. I reckon, I'll help be up on stage with
me one of these days playing becauseyou know, because Glenn is also a
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songwriter too, isn't he Keith,you want to really have that A really
really good songwriter, A really goodsongwriter. For those of you who don't
know, I wrote an amazing songabout just talking about it being a monacle
that wrote it and another guy andan old friend of mine. We wrote
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it and it's really cool. It'scalled Rock and McLaughlin. It's about the
perspective of an Irish guy in Monacolooking at all the fur coats and the
Lamborghinis and the big gaddies and there'sthere's there's lapo suction as far as the
eye can see, you know,people with small, small free dogs and
like botted eyelids and a lot ofthat kind of tongue and cheek stuff and
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there. Anyway, we recorded it, went to the ball Acts. They
put the putting the proper Demo,Degueller drums, bass, guitar, mixed
it, mastered it back in vocalsSanday Glen you know not as like and
I don't care. I've tough skim. I thought thought it was hilarious.
Just see you know Glenn and sandthey glean and I was like, hey,
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check out this song. I thinkyou were on you were on the
email, Yeah, I was.I was like I wrote it about our
trip. Look see you noticing itthe words whatever, And instead of Gland
saying yeah, Keith, that's acool song even if it wasn't, because
that's what good friends do, youjust go yeah, that's great, right,
yeah, Glen sent me an emailwith a detailed list of lyrics that
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he thought would be more suffice thanthe lyrics that me and the other professional
musicians decide it would be right better. They definitely they did not. They
didn't. Looking at Cass one thing, I think you should have painted those
flowers a little more peak. Yeah. That's like someone literally painting a picture
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and handling it the you know,being hey, check this out, isn't
this cool? And you're like,well, well the shade friend, we're
constructive criticis it was? All right? I messed up? All right,
you're right, No, it's funny. Do you know what's funny? I
know you're not like that at all. And I didn't even bought and I
loved it. Was mindy, mindysunky so hard on that. She was
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like clan, I can't believe shedid she actually did. I'm like what
I was just saying, and Iwas just sinking I heard it and I
thought this rhymes better, and Ithought I would tell him, Yeah,
I was wrong. Sorry, butyes, seriously, you just like critique.
He produced it, he went andhe has it gets done. I
know I don't know anything about songwady, and I just thought, you know,
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I would just tell you you couldjust look the word or something.
You know you do know you doknow avoid writing books? Well there,
yeah, thank you, Yes,he's I've been I've been meaning. I've
been meaning the ask you actually,because with me when I do an album.
I just released my seventh record andit's called A Man of Many Hats
and the album I release, it'sfunny people keep asking me, um,
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well, how did it do you? And what what? What happens now?
And I feel for me whenever youwrite something, you just put it
out there and you let it go. Yeah, and if it does great,
great, like all you've done allyou can do. You put all
your heart and soul and all thestories and the words in there. And
if it doesn't get accepted, welljust start writing and work on album number
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nine. And that's what you hopefullywill do, Glan, work on which
I'm not saying your book wasn't whatWe're gonna send you a copy and you
can edit it as you see fastsend it back. I don't think yes,
all right, I'm gonna change thesubject. I'm gonna go back to
something kid, I have had.You know what I found when I look
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back on our relationship and ship,I said to myself, like, I
am the same age as your father, but it doesn't feel like You're relationship
with me is like a father's son, Like I feel like we're you don't
have um any I'm sorry, wouldjust see a lot taller than I.
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Don't feel that you are um.You feel equal. Yeah, there's no
age, you know what I meanintellectually, and so I've I've admired you,
you know, for so many things. To your point, taking your
career in your own hands and decidingyou want to do it your way and
not establishments way going and getting yourhome building it out and with your own
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hands building out your whole, youknow, and the venue and the bar,
beautiful lovely wife and Kelsey she's justsuch a lovely hand. So looking
at all that you do right andthen being so creative. You know,
you guys would go and buy alot of stuff that becomes the heart can
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merchandise merchandise and how you are ableto kind of leverage that. You know,
there's a lot of things in therethat I've gotten you to where you
know, you're not like a lotof these other artists that don't understand the
business side of it. Because toyour point, we know a lot of
guys and gals that are pretty talented, but man do they suffer from,
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you know, paycheck to paycheck becausethey don't understand how to capitalize on their
gifts. And you've done a prettygood, damn good job of being able
to do that and have some funalong the way, you know, And
yeah, we've had so many Iwant to say to Keith, you're,
you know, kind of typically thebusins of the music business can be a
pretty rough, gritty business and youknow, not always not everybody's always gonna
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tell you the truth or keep theirword, and that's what contracts are for.
And so I can we just goback to the entitle of the book,
integrity in your mind? What doesit mean? What doesn't agree encompass?
What does it mean to you inyour life? To me in my
life? Integrity? I mean thefact to what we were saying youre being
real. Just just please be real. Be real, be real, and
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even in business, be real.You know, I feel like even in
business, if you're not real witheven the people that you're trying to not
use, but the people who you'retrying to negotiate it when you when you
negotiate a deal, I mean youguys know this, you're you're negotiating a
deal. Hopefully the better yourself you'renot doing it, they try and take
from the person you're doing it.They hopefully better yourself. But I feel
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like if you just even be realfrom the get go there, regardless of
what it is, even when I'mplaying music or even when I'm for example,
when I'm watching music. If Igo to a concert, if I
think someone's to use a term,you know, someone's bullshit me on stage,
I lose interest so fast. Theycould be the most talented person on
the planet, but if they're notbeing real and being honest, honestly on
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a stage. For me, an, in business is the easiest way to
make it work. You don't evenhave to be really good at being a
musician. If you're really and you'rehonest. You know, if you're on
stage and you're fully committing everything you'redoing, and you're being really everybody in
the room. Everybody's going to backy. Whereas you could be the best singer
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in the world, best guitar playerin the world, but if you're full
of it and you're trying to pullthe wool over people's eyes and he's all
these smoking mirrors, people just peoplejust be like, oh, that guy's
thick. And I feel the sameapplies in business too, and I think
that's why I've always done good.Anybody I hire, I always pay them
as much as I can. Thesecan see what I earn. You know,
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anybody that I also feel like tointegrity has they start from the ground
up. In business, you know, you can't be afraid to get your
hands to dirty. You can't beafraid to try and do every single thing
that you think it's going to betaken. Lady, make it worked.
Like I spent six years or fiveyears building a wedding venue in Ireland and
it's completely funnished now and we couldcabins and a big house and you know,
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with everybody stays there, it sleepsjust like fifteen people. When we
bought it, it was an oldlapidated farm what the point does. It
works because from the very start wewere really about it. We were in
the duchess begging for five years,and that's why it now it works.
But I feel like integrity to me, the main word for me, just
just be real. I think thatapplies across the board. You're as real
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as they come. And I wouldsay, and I would apply that to
your talent to you have real talent. There is no altering your Your voice
is as pure as anyone I've everheard, Like, I get excited when
I hear your voice, your music, your CDs. How many CDs do
you have now that you have justreleased album number seven? Yeah? And
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then I I don't I don't knowhow many I recorded with Keeltic Thunder.
I just turned thirty seven last week, so I reckon Happy birthday, Yeah,
I know, thank you. Umyeah. So between my own records
and kilta Thunder, probably like overtwenty twenty something records and maybe over ten
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or twelve TV Christmas albums. Ilove your Christmas albums too, actually more
probably like fourteen Christmas specials. Soin the space of you know, seventeen
years, that's a lot. Wherecan people get out on Apple Music,
we can get up on app Wherecan we buy out? Where can spotify?
There are the there are the poisonsthat don't pay the musicians. But
if you really want to support anartist, you can go and listen to
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the music for free, which iswhat everybody does, and then if you
really like it, you can goand buy a sticker or a T shirt
or whatever else. Because that's somusicians today make money. And you do
a lot of shows on stage itand two that's kind of where you really
I do three shows gets to seeyou? How many? Three a week?
I do one on one on theland stage stag Yeah, yes,
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stage. Remember speaking of you performing? UM? You perform a couple of
songs my favorite UM. There's twoone by Glenn Campbell and one by UM.
And it kind of won those twosongs together sometimes. And I remember
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one time we were at our friendsUM charity charity event, Oh Jane Seymour,
when we went to the Open ArtFoundation, and you think you you
performed and we were there as afriend then, and Jane had just did
a did the documentary documentary on GlennCampbell and I actually actually wasn't supposed to
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be UM performing. I was onlythere. We were just there a hanging
out those guys. It just kindof happened, didn't it. How did
it happened? That was such agreat Well then what happened? Yeah?
We were Then they were gonna rappleup because it Glenn's daughter was there.
Yeah, right, and so theywere rappling off his guitar auctioning. It
wasn't a raffle. It was auction. You had a bid on it.
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And you know those things on stage, they start going up, you get
bitters in the room, and youwanted it, didn't you, Keith?
It was Glenn Campbell. I beenon it first. The guitar came up
and I I bet it on afirst, and I could feel Kelsey's eyeballs
just burning on the side of myskull, and I wouldn't I wouldn't make
eye contact like she was like Sedusa, I was going to turn on these
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stone ips. She had looked atme exactly. And then the next bed
came up and glam went and Ilooked up, How you don't even play
guitar? What are you doing?And I really battle and then you turn
you were like, don't don't puton my guitar again, and I was
like, what's going on. Iwas like, all right, you clearly
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I never got it. He wokeback down. He's competitive, he'll go
broke just to win. Glad youdidn't go any farther because we obviously won
the guitar, which was nice,But I really, I obviously I wanted
it for you because I thought itwould be such a special gift for you.
And and yeah, that was afun time because you were then able
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to go play his guitar and thatwas a pretty special moment, and it
was it was it was a veryTier eight moment for me, to be
honest with you, because you wereon stage Monday and you said, you
know, folks were all here andwe're fans of Glenn Campbell, but Matt,
we're actually bigger fans you and Glenn. You says, Glenn and I
are bigger friends of our friend KeithHarkin, and we want to give Keith
this guitar. And I was like, and then you went only under one
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condition though, if you play aGlenn Campbell song like, no pressure,
Glenn Campbell's wife and daughter, yourGlenn Campbell guitar again, no sound check.
He Keith go up and played thefive string guitar in front front.
There's a pattern happening here, sothere's there's a pattern. I remember,
Hogg. I remember hogging you,Glenn, and you go that you as
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you said, He went, youjust cost me an extra thousand boxs because
we were about and he said,and I said, it makes one day.
We'll talk about this. That's right, that's right. And you you
performed beautifully as a true real artistdoes and can just jump in and you
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know, it's funny. I justthought of something that reminds me, you
know, I did that similar toMichael asked to Michael Johns. Going back
to Michael, just to wrap Michaelup. We were in Mexico and I
asked Michael and the group to makesure they got in early because we had
an early event. And Michael stayedout all night and we ended up waiting
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for him on the plane while weflew to see President Vicente Fox. And
it was surprised. I didn't tellany of the guys we were with and
m Michael has been up all nightand almost missed the bus. When we
got there, we're in front ofthe president and his wife, and I
said mister president, we happen tohave a real American idol here and he
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would and he's looking at me doingthis noe, No, I would love
to sing for you. And Michael'slives got big and he's like looked,
and he's so funny because he walksby me. Um, the President is
right here. He goes, oh, fuck you very much, and over
to get the guitar. He didn'tcare what the President barely eke out of
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note. He was so hoarse.But I guess I must do that to
you guys, right, I putyou on the spot. Um, that's
kind of fun. Oh, Keith, I just I'm Glenn. You were
gonna ask me about it? Meantlike, what what tell me something with
your um? You know, whatdo you look for? What do you
feel as important when you think aboutmentors and people like that? What's your
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um? What do you have someonethat you really like look to as a
mentor in your personal life music life? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've
got a good few mentors. UmUh. Family in general. I feel
like, if you're lucky enough,your family can be mentors. Yeah,
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because I feel like there's none ofthose guys will be better than anybody else
really um, And I'm quite luckythey have a great moment dad and good
wife and you know a couple ofother family members that are mentors. Um.
Musically, I've got a couple ofgreat mentors to you plan. I
would kint use a mentor you know, um, but I feel like with
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mentors um again, it just itcomes down they like just to name your
book integrity and being real, Andyou know you need someone who knows you,
and you need someone that isn't afraidthey you know, rewrite the lyrics
to your song and he made itback to you. You know exactly you
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have done at all? Oh jokeswill say you do? You do need
those kind of people. They youknow, you need friends to you who
are don't just go yeah, man, you're good, you can do it.
You need those men tours in yourlife, you go, Keith.
And also you need to you know, cut your losses. You need to
rein of them. That's you know, and know that they're your mentors and
know that they're only looking I freeregardless of or not, regardless or not.
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If you agree with it, ifyou know what I'm saying, well,
I'll tell you what I'll take Keith. You know, when you look
through what the book has been aboutand who we've highlighted and who I've highlighted
it, you know there's been acommon thread. And when I think about
you, and I think about alot of people that I have found to
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be my closest friends, you knowthey do they have a level of integrity,
and they have a strong work ethic, and they don't settle for just
being okay. You know, youlive in a world where you're exceptional.
And that's really for people that areout there. You know when they keep
asking, like Glenn, I needto know all the secrets right and all
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that, like, there is nosecret. It's very simple. It's about
surrounding yourself with your balcony friends,the people that lift you up and not
the basement friends, right, theones that bring you down. And when
I think about that, and Ithink about you're such a great example of
somebody that's dearer and near to usbecause you exemplify all these things. And
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people say they have a hard lifeor their life isn't as hard, Why
about the people you surround yourself with. It's about how your choices that you
make, It's about how you liveyour life, speaking of integrity, and
when you do all those right things, I think you end up with a
happier, healthier, positive life.You know. Of course, everybody's going
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to have their problems and they're gonna, you know, go through their ruts,
but in general and the longer run, and that's why I think I'm
really grateful to be able to highlightyou, you know, and and our
friendship. Honored to call you afriend, Keith, you and Kelsey and
Whalen now or such special part ofour life, our story. I probably
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wouldn't have named him Whalen though,if I think about it, I'm Whalen
glennny funny story about that my momand dad. Whenever I told my mom
and dad our son's name for thefirst time, because Whalen isn't a very
stereotypical Irish name, it was like, oh, I almost got the email
of all the new lyrics for thebook, you know, and I was
like, we're going to call themWhalen. And my mom if she watches
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this moment, my mom was like, that's a nice name. She did
not like it at all. Mydad was like he didn't say anything either,
and they were like just sitting theregoing okay and kind of stared off
into the distance, and I waslike, well, that doesn't go exactly
how I planned, parents did it. I know that we have them,
I know that they have them.They give another name. He's completely a
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Whalen, Whalen whale and Dean Whalen, Dean Harken. But that's why,
but that is why you never tellpeople a name, because they always come,
oh, my dog was named that, Oh that that guy died that
was, you know, and likeyou'll never get the right name. That's
Whalen, and then you know it, he becomes a Whalen, right,
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And that's that's how you end uphaving to do it. Or people always
find a name to associate that hasnothing to do with your you know,
child, never share baby names orsong lyrics or song Glen, how do
you feel that you've sorry? Iwent I'll asked you that earlier, and
I went on a round how doyou feel like me? Mean? And
they ask you about know that thebooks right there in the universe, the
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metaverse, in all honesty, alljoking aside. You know, uh,
I wouldn't have probably written it hadit not been for the show, because
um, you know, I didthe show for different reasons than most people
would think. I wanted to reallyshow my kids they work hard, have
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been through the cancer, and maybegood things can come. But I got
this big, huge, you know, after effect or whatever you want to
call it, was the swell ofsupport from people all around the world that
said, man, you motivated me, and this is very genuine and you
know, and I really it wasinspired. And I thought, you know,
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so many people would ask me towrite about my life story, and
I thought, well, now,you know, maybe if I do,
go and show some of the painand some of the struggle. And yet,
you know, in the end,I'm really proud of where I am.
I'm proud of my friends and family, and I'm proud of everything.
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But I went through some shit likea lot of people do. And if
that'll motivate some people, that'll inspiresome people, why not. So you
know, it really nice, werevery proud of it, really nice feedback,
are enjoying it, and you neverknow, when you put it out,
he's like, well, you know, your editors have read it.
They tell you, oh, Iyou know, we liked it a lot.
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It really moved us. And youjust think well until people that you
don't know have read it or peoplethat are just then you really get the
real feedback so far. I mean, no one told us bad style.
I know. I'll tell you whathas happened, and that is to your
pointment, because people are going totell you good things, just like you
said that, people are gonna tellyou your song. Yeah it's good,
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right, they're your friend. Butwhat the real people tell you. And
there's been people all over the worldthat have read it because of the show.
People, you know, I've beenfortunate to have people that follow me
all over and I've gotten very goodfeedback, you know, and not about
how it is written, but maybeabout the lessons learned, you know,
that's what to me. Whether andthen he puts it all out there in
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such a raw, vulnerable reel,like you say, a real way.
It's a real look at Glenn.Yeah. So if people are trying to,
you know, maybe move themselves intoa position of being um in a
better spot in their life, whetherit's work or whether it's personal growth or
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whatever, you know, I hopethey can find some nuggets in here.
I think. So a lot ofpeople have told us that and that it'll
get them to a space that youknow, they feel that they've learned and
grown from. And that's what I'dlike people to take away. Your birthday
copy is coming. You're signed personalbirthday copy and will be arriving via airmail.
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I can't wait. I really can't. So well, thank you,
Keith. We look at what's yournext concert, which is there's something coming
up three more next week, everyweek on stage if anybody wants to tune
in Stage dot com forward Slasharkin.You're on Instagram, Instagram, Keith Harkin,
Facebook, Keith Harkin, Twitter,Keith Harkin, Patreon and listen to
Keith Harkin. And also I'll begoing on tour um probably November de Samber.
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October November De Samber, Give ortake um all round America. Yeah,
oh, good good. I'm goingto be very excited to see you.
Oh I'm sure you're super excited.Well, we're excited to see you
at some point in that. Pleasegive our love to Kelsey and a lot
of hugs to Whalen. And I'mgonna call you about a possible Necker opportunity.
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Oh that's serious. Let's go hereanother night on Necker. Let's go.
I'll bring an extra set of strings. Bull Circles makes you have six
strings that guys, I love youso much and it was a pleasure to
Chatties. Even if this is theway we get to do it. I'm
so happy, Glad. I'm soproud of you for doing your book.
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It's awesome. I'm glad, Thankyou, thank you, good Man up
to Keith Chow Guys, love's loads, Chattie soon. Thank you.
Hi, I'm Mindy Sterns and I'mGlenn's Sterns, and this is Great Happened.
Join us as we engage in candidconversations with some of the most successful
people in every field and from everywalk of life, all with a common
thread of grit and a goal ofnot just surviving, but thriving. And
we hope that the show will helpyou feel informed, energized, and especially
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inspired. So let's get started.This is Great it happens. We're back
for another episode of Great Happens.Thank you for joining us. So,
you wrote a book. There's alot of book. You wrote a book,
huh, And we've been talking aboutyour book. I'm a little tired
of talking about that. Oh mygod, so am I. I know
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it's all you talk. Oh no, I can't wait to hear more about
your book. Actually, since itcame out, we've had a lot of
really good feedback about the book.There's a people like they're saying they can't
put it down. It's they loveit cover to cover. They love the
vulnerability and that you you go aheadto expose all your flaws to the world.
People laugh at you. I mean, if I had a a I'm
not exposed them, but I don't. But but there are not only great
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stories, there's great people, greatcharacters. And one of your favorites is
with us today. Her it happened, Um and I started out with a
bromance, and I'd love to talkabout that. Well, why don't we
just bring on a character who's appeareda lot in the later part here of
the last ten years or so,and in more than ten years he really
yes, been more like fifteen.Oh my god, introducing our dear friend,
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Um, extraordinary, extraordinary talent andmusician, father, husband, son,
brother and friend, mister Keith Argan. How you doing, Keith?
What's happening? Folks to see youspeaking Irish? That's his dialect in case
you gotta press, you gotta pressread for you know some idols around knife.
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Yeah, exactly, I love it. I do love it. It's
it's great and your music is fantastic. I mean, starting obviously as a
member of Celtic Thunder, and wecan go back, we can talk about
how you're involved in Glenn's stories,but first talk about how when you first
met Keith. Just do a little, do a little. I love the
story when you first when you firstsaw one. Folks. We are part
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of a group that was called theMuhammad Ali Us Fight Night. It was
a celebrity event. It was abig charity event. David Foster did all
the production and brought on the talentand introduced new talent. I mean he
introduced people like Josh Grobin, MichaelBoublay. You know, he brought out
Ciara are always bringing out new talent. Yeah, just the host. It
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was an amazing event, and sothis one year I would never forget because
he says, yeah, you know, um, I brought out a lot
of talent. This is David Foster. I brought out a guy no one
had heard of him before. Hisname was Michael Bay. It became pretty
good. Then I brought out anotherguy and you guys never heard of him.
His name was Josh Girl. Thename Josh Grobin. Hey did all
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right, here's this next guy.He's just gonna blow them away. This
guy is so great, blah blahblah. And I'm like, who is
this guy? And then alt comesKeith and he gets up there and I've
said Keith's bright rolling his eyes rightnow. I'm sure you are, but
I've said this among times. Buthe gets up there and he starts talking,
and he's got that swagger and you'releaning against the microphone and I was
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like, man, I his blondehair just kind of breast off his face,
just these little dimple the though darling, and immediately Glenn had a man
crush. Well I thought, no, I thought, mean, I'd like
to be like that guy. Youknow, I'd love to be able to
have that swagger and that confidence andthat talent. You do have that swagger,
Glenn, you have that swagger.Well I don't have it, and
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you got a talent maybe, butuh yeah. So we watched that performance.
It was awesome. I mean,here you are in front of Muhammed
Ali and he's young kid, ownedit, owned it. And so I
was really, you know, impressedwith people that are confident and have talent.
So later that night we were downstairsat the roy yeah, at the
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little club thing after party, andsomehow you and I bump into each other
and I was like, man,I'm so happy for you, which is
very true that I love watching peoplein that mode of step into their greatness.
Yeah, exactly, just being ableto step into your your life and
your greatness and so we had totalk and I thought, you know,
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you were fantastic. And then Iget up early in the morning, I
have to take a flight to NewYork. And who do I sit next
to? But you crazy? Howweird is that I didn't sleep on that
whole flight, did you? Andwe don't? We don't. We talked
most of the way there in fairness. Yeah, and then you went to
a concert that night with a bunchof suits, right, a bunch of
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Wall Street guys, And Keith says, come on, buy my show,
and I'm like, all right,I will and and I had all these
yeah Wall Street guys that were allstuck in suits, and I took them
there to see you, and anduh, that was really the beginning of
an amazing friendship. You know,It's how we got oh mom, Yeah,
that was also I also remember too, like, you know, lots
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of people always say that they'll cometo your show, and uh, normally
when people say that, You're like, yeah, all right, cool,
I'll see you there. I'll seeyou at the show. Sure. An
off Gland that are rave not onlyon his own, but with like eight
other dudes who seemed extremely uncomfortable atthe time at the performance. Yeah,
Oh my god, that it wasso great because we ended up you know,
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just I think I got to seemore of your talent. And then,
um, I don't remember how ithappened, but I think it was
Necker the next get together? Wasthat the next one? Yeah, maybe
doing an event? Maybe maybe itwasn't, But I remember when we got
to Neckar. That timeframe, wehad been doing some events with Richard Branson
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and it was a charity event wherewe brought people together to gather on Neckar
Island and sell it. The themewas like surviving and thriving and we brought
some Horatial alger scholars who had justrecently received their scholarship in DC and it's
an organization we're part of. It'sa big scholarship for kids who overcome adversity
and you know, made their livesabout being a victor, not a victim.
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And we had some really great influentialcharacters that were there, great speakers,
great resources and talent who had,you know, incredible skills to you
know, contribute to the ambiance andthe fun of the event. The good
and bad about that was we hadalso invited Michael John's besides Keith yea,
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and Michael dear dear friends. Forthose out there that remember Michael, he
was a um American idol um singerfrom Australia, did really well and he
was too. Oh he had swaggerand he was an amazing fun guy and
we were really really tight and wedid a lot together. We had Michael
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there, but Michael was struggling withalcohol at the time and he had um
you know, he he's struggling,and so when he was there, he
had quit. But um, ohno, was that the time. No,
he had like a heat stroke onthe tennis chord and then yeah,
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yeah the first time, the firsttime he was, we were all there.
Um, you're right, though Michaelwas. It was a rock star
sple is that either it either haveit or you don't. Michael had that
in spades, but he he wasMichael was struggling at the time, you
know, and I wish I hada no one hard much. He was
struggled, to be honest. Yeah, I feel pretty bad about that myself.
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And he was as he since passedand you know, we still remember
him. But we'd go back toNecker, the idea that your talent was
just so incredibly like moving that afterthe gathering had kind of culminated, you
were invited to stay on Richard Richard, Hey, Glenn, do you mind
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if I asked he he'd stayed formy birthday? I said, I don't
own Keith. I go Keith cando you know what he wants? And
I'd like to I appreciate you askingme, but you know, I'm sure
he'd be flattered by don't you askhim? And so I was on social
media, you know, every nowand then, checking in and there you
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are on Necker Island playing. Ithought, how good for him? About
three days that there you are onNecker Island playing. Then at three,
how long is Keith there? Imean you stayed there forever? Getn't you
like three? I basically moved onand I was there for like three and
a half four weeks. And theykept saying, you know, you're just
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getting this caught in this trap ofabsolute paradise. And I was, you
know, a young early twenties,mud twenties kid, and I had important
things to do. But at theend of the day, nothing was more
important to getting me sit on NeckerIsland and play music for all these cool
people. And I just put I'llnever remember the record company and all these
people like calling going where where areyou? Like what you said you were
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leaving on a Thursday and you'd beback on Monday. That was November.
I was like, I'm not comingback. I'm not remember like Wolf of
Wall Street where he's like, I'mnot leaving. I'm not leaving. That
That was me on Necker Island,and I remember they were just like Richard
was like just stay yeah, andI should have pictures of you on that
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on the sailboat. Remember that's whereyou were living. I think he was
living on his on his his catamaran. Yeah, but yeah, that is
kind of our start, right washow we got to know Keith and and
fall in love with him, youknow, and and god, we've done
so many things together since then.Again, that's probably fifteen years ago at
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least. I don't know. Doyou remember the year? Do you have
any idea of the year? Sadly, you know, time and all I
can of stuff to me is anabsolute blur when you're traveling so much and
doing gigs and you just you justcan't remember the good ones. You know,
some of the good ones there areyou're in, you're in a couple
of chapters here chapter twenty two andtwenty three, letting go of the Past,
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Be Real, be Humble, bekind Um and Keith. The stories
of Keith weave into you and someof the things you were doing, and
obviously with Michael and that type ofthing and in the kind of the era
with him and just kind of howyou guys. You know, there's something
about you know, a lot ofpeople have a feeling about people who in
the music business is that they justreally don't maybe don't know what's going on,
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and a lot of people are pullingthe strings around them. And what
I've always known about you, andwhat we have always recognized is you have
you possessed this level of grit thata lot of them lack in the sense
that you've got a real you camefrom a really good family, came from
a lot of support, and you'vereally made a place for yourself and took
control of your career and really kindof took the reins on how you wanted
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to create the career that you have. And talk a little bit about how
you set yourself apart in that ina really gritty industry, if you will,
Yeah, it is you know,the music business like every business.
I think the thing with music businessis not a lot of people relais.
It's a business. Yeah. Notonly do you have to have whatever saying
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it youerrong. You have to havethat thing that no one else can do,
that no one else can can achieveand perform. But you also have
to have the grit to stand thereand tell people that you're the best that
doing it and actually do it aswell and back it up. Furthermore,
you have to be there every daywith people telling you that you can't do
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it, and people telling you thatyou're no good at it, and people
telling you that you shouldn't be doingthis and you shouldn't be singing that,
And yeah, I just decided togo my own way. I could have.
I honestly feel like I had manyopportunities to probably take the easy right
and to probably sell for me anyway. I'm just saying it was selling
out for me. You know,I could have probably done the whole cover
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song thing and became the next likeyou know, doing albums like not knocking
them it's their own thing, likeMichael Boogley and all these different artists or
just they just you know, theyreleased all these albums, covers and stuff,
and I was offered that on aplate many times by many high rollers
in the music industry, even inbeing a Celtic Thunder. I mean I
was one of the main guys inCeltic Thunder for a decade. You were
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featured many times, you were Iwas the blonde hair, blue eyed poster
boyd that they always stuck in themiddle of everything. And you know,
we released I don't even know,maybe twelve thirteen, fourteen albums, ten
PBAs special specials. We sold overa couple of million records worldwide. We
had the second highest gross from everPBS special on on PBS and the only
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other one and beat it. Thething was a Woody Go three charity thing.
Wow. I could have quite easilyhave stayed there with the suit on
me that everybody was folding for meand handed me every day and taking the
easy wage. And again, youknow, when I started that, I
never even intended to do that formore than a year or two. And
after ten years, I had awalk and people probably think I'm crazy.
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In fact, sometimes I think I'mcrazy. You know, I had a
tourbus. There was three or fourtour buses. There was a band of
nine we had. You just openedthe fridge on the bus and everything was
there. You walked into the room, your socks would fold it. And
I decided to leave that on myown will and go and buy a van
and torture myself to death and drive, yeah, and full my own socks
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if there's any left in the bag, and driving myself around the world,
driving myself as every mile I'd drivethe crazier I get, and my per
band they're getting crazier with me,and I wouldn't have it any other way
because that's the way I wanted todo it. Well, that's an artist
versus right, I mean that youwere an artist, and there's a big
difference. You get back to thegrid and you have to you have to
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honker doing You've only one chance ofdoing it, you know. And I
don't want to sit there in anor ten or twenty years time and think
to myself, you know, ah, that was a great career. You
made a lot of money, youplayed music in front of a lot of
people. But nonetheless, if it'snot what you want to do for me,
I'm so glad that I've went myown way and I've still done extremely
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well, I would say even betterdoing my own way, and I'm a
lot happier. Is it a lotmore work? Is it more? Hell?
One, I'm a lot happier fordoing it. That makes sense because
to your point, you know,having someone else be able to hold your
clothes and all that, but thenyou're doing what they want versus doing what
you want, and you know thenyou're not true to yourself, right,
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and so you you live with factthat you are, you know, taking
you're allowing money to rule your lifeversus what you want to do with your
life. And it's a very interestingdynamic because there's a lot of people that
put money as their god versus happinessand fulfillment, you know. And so
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I've watched you go and go allover the world and do what you do,
and you know, there's a lotof people out there that admire you
for that. And you see peoplethat love your own songs, right,
not that you can sing somebody else'ssong. Yeah, it's been fun to
kind of be a fly on thewall. I guess you'd say, you
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know when it comes to that.But we've had a lot of great times
Keith, where you know, Ithink of gosh, so many I mean
being kicked out of my own house, you know, and into a room,
then another room, another room,and then finally into the garage.
Get out of the garage. WereOh my god. We were in Jackson
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Hall and I was trying to putthe kids down, and Keith and Glenn
and a couple other guys were there. They were playing music just on the
other side of the wall in thebar, and I'm like, oh my
god, the kids are never goingto sleep. I'm like, guys,
move it. They move into thekitchen area, and then I'm like,
guys, I can still hear you, So they move in the garage.
I come out. You guys areliterally sitting in the garage on a bench
like in front of the cars.You guys are all just like five of
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you. I remember. I rememberwe were singing eagle songs and I was
like, Kennel whispering up then andthen like I think somebody does come out
and like open the door. We'resorry, yeah, and then we just
start jam and getting in trouble.I forgot about that. That was that
was Ne's. That was around Near'sEve. Yeah, Ram that we went
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up to his house for karaoke.No did we was that? Were you
there when we got to I don'tremember, but yeah, but that was
fun money and then um the timethat I was talking to my captain on
the boat. Hey, so what'sgoing on? Like We're going to go
to the F one race when Glennie'sfish spear and three days? Okay,
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well what are we going on?Nothing? Glenn, I've been bugging you
for a month. What do youmean that? Well, you got the
Prince Albert and Princess Charlene coming onyour boat and you have nothing. I'm
like nothing, Why didn't you bugGlenn? Have been bugging you? Keith?
Can you help me what? Ineed? You to fly to Monty
Carlo, get your stuff and weneed to sing and Brenda, Prince,
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Prince Charlie, Princess Arlen. Okay, hops on the plane. That was
the real being in Monica. Ifanyone's ever been to F one like you
can't. It is like an experiencelike no other. Every time I see,
every time I see anything Formula onerelated, monacle and put I'm such
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a smile in my face because Iknow that trip of any was honestly some
of the most serene moments of mylife. I don't I ad myer formula
one. I'm a car guy,motorbike guy, anything with an engine.
But for some reason, for whenI was a kid, I always said
to myself, one day, I'mgoing to sit on a boat there and
watch that. And I doesn't evensee it, but it was honestly a
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notion I've had since I was asfar back as I can remember, so
whenever I was there doing it.I remember sitting that night, Glenn,
you handed me a guitar that wason the boat. It only had five
strings, and for those of youdon't know, it's a guitar is supposed
to have six strings. And thePrince and Princess a Monacle or sitting in
front of me, and Glan's like, just just getn't sing. Let's good.
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Five strings. That's the Prince ofMonacle with five strings. I mean,
I'm good, but I'm not fivestrings game. And I remember going
up there and from where I wassitting, you were sitting with the princess
and Monday you were sitting with aprince and a SPA song of mine as
a song by guy called Peter Starsteadand it's about the Prince of Monica's mum,
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and I just said, sing wheredo you go to, my lovely?
And I remember singing that song letme Dad taught me from when I
was four or five years old.I haven't singing that song. And I
was sitting there playing to the personthat's a boat and sitting there and the
race track and all the big TVsand there's a helicopter blade sitting about in
my head. And it was oneof those moments where I stepped out of
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my own body and said to memyself, take a photograph, keeps remember
this is this is a good one. This is a really good one.
Oh that is so beautiful. Andyou brought it to between you and Robbie
did the combat of you guys too. I just remember you after singing like
Beatles songs and just Live and letDie on the deck of a yacht in
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Monaco. I mean, it isa It is the stuff dreams are made
of. It really is that.So you know, you've been such a
part like and kind of looking atkind of the thirty thousand viewpoint of between
you and Glenn and the relationship,what is it that you feel like has
been the core thing between you two, Like, what, what's what's created
this bond of respect between you two? I think, well, I think
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Glen as different as we are,we're very similar. And the sense that
like, you know, uh,like I was just saying, you have
to go your own way and agood thing with Glen was just saying there,
you know, don't make money orGod. Even though Glen has been
very successful in his life, Ialways feel like glanced on the things that
he likes to do, he's donethe thing. Well, you know,
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it's not sorry. You don't alwaysdo the things you like to do,
but have already achieved the things youlike to do. You have to do
some dirty work in order to getthere. But Clan is always beat up
by his own drome, you know, And I feel like that's how he
has made it. And that's theway I also feel in my life and
my career. That's why I've madeit because I've went my own way.
And eventually, if you stick thatout and if you hammer that out,
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you will get there. As cornyand as cliche as that, as I
truly believe, if you're a willingthey put it all out there and put
your neck on the line and don'tback down from no man or woman or
anything in between. I feel likeyou'll get there, and I feel like
that's why I get Glen. Youknow, Glen is exactly the same and
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spades more as well on top ofthat, and I feel like that's why
I get Glen. And also alot of people I have met like Glen.
You know, Glenn, you arebut of a suit too, You
do like they wear a suit everynow and again. You do work in
the offices. I won't hold you. I won't hold it against you.
I won't hold it against you.But a lot of people who do that
as well, you know, theyhaven't got much rock and roll on them.
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They haven't got much fun on them. And I hate to say it,
but a lot of the guys you'reup there like that that is their
god and that is all they wantto do and that is all they say,
whereas Glenn isn't like that. Youknow, Glen, you get it.
You love having a good laugh,you love having a phone. There's
rock and rolling you. I reckon, I'll help be up on stage with
me one of these days playing becauseyou know, because Glenn is also a
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songwriter too, isn't he Keith,you want to really have that A really
really good songwriter, A really goodsongwriter. For those of you who don't
know, I wrote an amazing songabout just talking about it being a monacle
that wrote it and another guy andan old friend of mine. We wrote
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it and it's really cool. It'scalled Rock and McLaughlin. It's about the
perspective of an Irish guy in Monacolooking at all the fur coats and the
Lamborghinis and the big gaddies and there'sthere's there's lapo suction as far as the
eye can see, you know,people with small, small free dogs and
like botted eyelids and a lot ofthat kind of tongue and cheek stuff and
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there. Anyway, we recorded it, went to the ball Acts. They
put the putting the proper Demo,Degueller drums, bass, guitar, mixed
it, mastered it back in vocalsSanday Glen you know not as like and
I don't care. I've tough skim. I thought thought it was hilarious.
Just see you know Glenn and sandthey glean and I was like, hey,
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check out this song. I thinkyou were on you were on the
email, Yeah, I was.I was like I wrote it about our
trip. Look see you noticing itthe words whatever, And instead of Gland
saying yeah, Keith, that's acool song even if it wasn't, because
that's what good friends do, youjust go yeah, that's great, right,
yeah, Glen sent me an emailwith a detailed list of lyrics that
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he thought would be more suffice thanthe lyrics that me and the other professional
musicians decide it would be right better. They definitely they did not. They
didn't. Looking at Cass one thing, I think you should have painted those
flowers a little more peak. Yeah. That's like someone literally painting a picture
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and handling it the you know,being hey, check this out, isn't
this cool? And you're like,well, well the shade friend, we're
constructive criticis it was? All right? I messed up? All right,
you're right, No, it's funny. Do you know what's funny? I
know you're not like that at all. And I didn't even bought and I
loved it. Was mindy, mindysunky so hard on that. She was
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like clan, I can't believe shedid she actually did. I'm like what
I was just saying, and Iwas just sinking I heard it and I
thought this rhymes better, and Ithought I would tell him, Yeah,
I was wrong. Sorry, butyes, seriously, you just like critique.
He produced it, he went andhe has it gets done. I
know I don't know anything about songwady, and I just thought, you know,
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I would just tell you you couldjust look the word or something.
You know you do know you doknow avoid writing books? Well there,
yeah, thank you, Yes,he's I've been I've been meaning. I've
been meaning the ask you actually,because with me when I do an album.
I just released my seventh record andit's called A Man of Many Hats
and the album I release, it'sfunny people keep asking me, um,
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well, how did it do you? And what what? What happens now?
And I feel for me whenever youwrite something, you just put it
out there and you let it go. Yeah, and if it does great,
great, like all you've done allyou can do. You put all
your heart and soul and all thestories and the words in there. And
if it doesn't get accepted, welljust start writing and work on album number
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nine. And that's what you hopefullywill do, Glan, work on which
I'm not saying your book wasn't whatWe're gonna send you a copy and you
can edit it as you see fastsend it back. I don't think yes,
all right, I'm gonna change thesubject. I'm gonna go back to
something kid, I have had.You know what I found when I look
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back on our relationship and ship,I said to myself, like, I
am the same age as your father, but it doesn't feel like You're relationship
with me is like a father's son, Like I feel like we're you don't
have um any I'm sorry, wouldjust see a lot taller than I.
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Don't feel that you are um.You feel equal. Yeah, there's no
age, you know what I meanintellectually, and so I've I've admired you,
you know, for so many things. To your point, taking your
career in your own hands and decidingyou want to do it your way and
not establishments way going and getting yourhome building it out and with your own
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hands building out your whole, youknow, and the venue and the bar,
beautiful lovely wife and Kelsey she's justsuch a lovely hand. So looking
at all that you do right andthen being so creative. You know,
you guys would go and buy alot of stuff that becomes the heart can
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merchandise merchandise and how you are ableto kind of leverage that. You know,
there's a lot of things in therethat I've gotten you to where you
know, you're not like a lotof these other artists that don't understand the
business side of it. Because toyour point, we know a lot of
guys and gals that are pretty talented, but man do they suffer from,
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you know, paycheck to paycheck becausethey don't understand how to capitalize on their
gifts. And you've done a prettygood, damn good job of being able
to do that and have some funalong the way, you know, And
yeah, we've had so many Iwant to say to Keith, you're,
you know, kind of typically thebusins of the music business can be a
pretty rough, gritty business and youknow, not always not everybody's always gonna
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tell you the truth or keep theirword, and that's what contracts are for.
And so I can we just goback to the entitle of the book,
integrity in your mind? What doesit mean? What doesn't agree encompass?
What does it mean to you inyour life? To me in my
life? Integrity? I mean thefact to what we were saying youre being
real. Just just please be real. Be real, be real, and
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even in business, be real.You know, I feel like even in
business, if you're not real witheven the people that you're trying to not
use, but the people who you'retrying to negotiate it when you when you
negotiate a deal, I mean youguys know this, you're you're negotiating a
deal. Hopefully the better yourself you'renot doing it, they try and take
from the person you're doing it.They hopefully better yourself. But I feel
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like if you just even be realfrom the get go there, regardless of
what it is, even when I'mplaying music or even when I'm for example,
when I'm watching music. If Igo to a concert, if I
think someone's to use a term,you know, someone's bullshit me on stage,
I lose interest so fast. Theycould be the most talented person on
the planet, but if they're notbeing real and being honest, honestly on
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a stage. For me, an, in business is the easiest way to
make it work. You don't evenhave to be really good at being a
musician. If you're really and you'rehonest. You know, if you're on
stage and you're fully committing everything you'redoing, and you're being really everybody in
the room. Everybody's going to backy. Whereas you could be the best singer
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in the world, best guitar playerin the world, but if you're full
of it and you're trying to pullthe wool over people's eyes and he's all
these smoking mirrors, people just peoplejust be like, oh, that guy's
thick. And I feel the sameapplies in business too, and I think
that's why I've always done good.Anybody I hire, I always pay them
as much as I can. Thesecan see what I earn. You know,
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anybody that I also feel like tointegrity has they start from the ground
up. In business, you know, you can't be afraid to get your
hands to dirty. You can't beafraid to try and do every single thing
that you think it's going to betaken. Lady, make it worked.
Like I spent six years or fiveyears building a wedding venue in Ireland and
it's completely funnished now and we couldcabins and a big house and you know,
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with everybody stays there, it sleepsjust like fifteen people. When we
bought it, it was an oldlapidated farm what the point does. It
works because from the very start wewere really about it. We were in
the duchess begging for five years,and that's why it now it works.
But I feel like integrity to me, the main word for me, just
just be real. I think thatapplies across the board. You're as real
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as they come. And I wouldsay, and I would apply that to
your talent to you have real talent. There is no altering your Your voice
is as pure as anyone I've everheard, Like, I get excited when
I hear your voice, your music, your CDs. How many CDs do
you have now that you have justreleased album number seven? Yeah? And
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then I I don't I don't knowhow many I recorded with Keeltic Thunder.
I just turned thirty seven last week, so I reckon Happy birthday, Yeah,
I know, thank you. Umyeah. So between my own records
and kilta Thunder, probably like overtwenty twenty something records and maybe over ten
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or twelve TV Christmas albums. Ilove your Christmas albums too, actually more
probably like fourteen Christmas specials. Soin the space of you know, seventeen
years, that's a lot. Wherecan people get out on Apple Music,
we can get up on app Wherecan we buy out? Where can spotify?
There are the there are the poisonsthat don't pay the musicians. But
if you really want to support anartist, you can go and listen to
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the music for free, which iswhat everybody does, and then if you
really like it, you can goand buy a sticker or a T shirt
or whatever else. Because that's somusicians today make money. And you do
a lot of shows on stage itand two that's kind of where you really
I do three shows gets to seeyou? How many? Three a week?
I do one on one on theland stage stag Yeah, yes,
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stage. Remember speaking of you performing? UM? You perform a couple of
songs my favorite UM. There's twoone by Glenn Campbell and one by UM.
And it kind of won those twosongs together sometimes. And I remember
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one time we were at our friendsUM charity charity event, Oh Jane Seymour,
when we went to the Open ArtFoundation, and you think you you
performed and we were there as afriend then, and Jane had just did
a did the documentary documentary on GlennCampbell and I actually actually wasn't supposed to
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be UM performing. I was onlythere. We were just there a hanging
out those guys. It just kindof happened, didn't it. How did
it happened? That was such agreat Well then what happened? Yeah?
We were Then they were gonna rappleup because it Glenn's daughter was there.
Yeah, right, and so theywere rappling off his guitar auctioning. It
wasn't a raffle. It was auction. You had a bid on it.
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And you know those things on stage, they start going up, you get
bitters in the room, and youwanted it, didn't you, Keith?
It was Glenn Campbell. I beenon it first. The guitar came up
and I I bet it on afirst, and I could feel Kelsey's eyeballs
just burning on the side of myskull, and I wouldn't I wouldn't make
eye contact like she was like Sedusa, I was going to turn on these
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stone ips. She had looked atme exactly. And then the next bed
came up and glam went and Ilooked up, How you don't even play
guitar? What are you doing?And I really battle and then you turn
you were like, don't don't puton my guitar again, and I was
like, what's going on. Iwas like, all right, you clearly
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I never got it. He wokeback down. He's competitive, he'll go
broke just to win. Glad youdidn't go any farther because we obviously won
the guitar, which was nice,But I really, I obviously I wanted
it for you because I thought itwould be such a special gift for you.
And and yeah, that was afun time because you were then able
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to go play his guitar and thatwas a pretty special moment, and it
was it was it was a veryTier eight moment for me, to be
honest with you, because you wereon stage Monday and you said, you
know, folks were all here andwe're fans of Glenn Campbell, but Matt,
we're actually bigger fans you and Glenn. You says, Glenn and I
are bigger friends of our friend KeithHarkin, and we want to give Keith
this guitar. And I was like, and then you went only under one
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condition though, if you play aGlenn Campbell song like, no pressure,
Glenn Campbell's wife and daughter, yourGlenn Campbell guitar again, no sound check.
He Keith go up and played thefive string guitar in front front.
There's a pattern happening here, sothere's there's a pattern. I remember,
Hogg. I remember hogging you,Glenn, and you go that you as
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you said, He went, youjust cost me an extra thousand boxs because
we were about and he said,and I said, it makes one day.
We'll talk about this. That's right, that's right. And you you
performed beautifully as a true real artistdoes and can just jump in and you
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know, it's funny. I justthought of something that reminds me, you
know, I did that similar toMichael asked to Michael Johns. Going back
to Michael, just to wrap Michaelup. We were in Mexico and I
asked Michael and the group to makesure they got in early because we had
an early event. And Michael stayedout all night and we ended up waiting
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for him on the plane while weflew to see President Vicente Fox. And
it was surprised. I didn't tellany of the guys we were with and
m Michael has been up all nightand almost missed the bus. When we
got there, we're in front ofthe president and his wife, and I
said mister president, we happen tohave a real American idol here and he
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would and he's looking at me doingthis noe, No, I would love
to sing for you. And Michael'slives got big and he's like looked,
and he's so funny because he walksby me. Um, the President is
right here. He goes, oh, fuck you very much, and over
to get the guitar. He didn'tcare what the President barely eke out of
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note. He was so hoarse.But I guess I must do that to
you guys, right, I putyou on the spot. Um, that's
kind of fun. Oh, Keith, I just I'm Glenn. You were
gonna ask me about it? Meantlike, what what tell me something with
your um? You know, whatdo you look for? What do you
feel as important when you think aboutmentors and people like that? What's your
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um? What do you have someonethat you really like look to as a
mentor in your personal life music life? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've
got a good few mentors. UmUh. Family in general. I feel
like, if you're lucky enough,your family can be mentors. Yeah,
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because I feel like there's none ofthose guys will be better than anybody else
really um, And I'm quite luckythey have a great moment dad and good
wife and you know a couple ofother family members that are mentors. Um.
Musically, I've got a couple ofgreat mentors to you plan. I
would kint use a mentor you know, um, but I feel like with
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mentors um again, it just itcomes down they like just to name your
book integrity and being real, Andyou know you need someone who knows you,
and you need someone that isn't afraidthey you know, rewrite the lyrics
to your song and he made itback to you. You know exactly you
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have done at all? Oh jokeswill say you do? You do need
those kind of people. They youknow, you need friends to you who
are don't just go yeah, man, you're good, you can do it.
You need those men tours in yourlife, you go, Keith.
And also you need to you know, cut your losses. You need to
rein of them. That's you know, and know that they're your mentors and
know that they're only looking I freeregardless of or not, regardless or not.
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If you agree with it, ifyou know what I'm saying, well,
I'll tell you what I'll take Keith. You know, when you look
through what the book has been aboutand who we've highlighted and who I've highlighted
it, you know there's been acommon thread. And when I think about
you, and I think about alot of people that I have found to
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be my closest friends, you knowthey do they have a level of integrity,
and they have a strong work ethic, and they don't settle for just
being okay. You know, youlive in a world where you're exceptional.
And that's really for people that areout there. You know when they keep
asking, like Glenn, I needto know all the secrets right and all
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that, like, there is nosecret. It's very simple. It's about
surrounding yourself with your balcony friends,the people that lift you up and not
the basement friends, right, theones that bring you down. And when
I think about that, and Ithink about you're such a great example of
somebody that's dearer and near to usbecause you exemplify all these things. And
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people say they have a hard lifeor their life isn't as hard, Why
about the people you surround yourself with. It's about how your choices that you
make, It's about how you liveyour life, speaking of integrity, and
when you do all those right things, I think you end up with a
happier, healthier, positive life.You know. Of course, everybody's going
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to have their problems and they're gonna, you know, go through their ruts,
but in general and the longer run, and that's why I think I'm
really grateful to be able to highlightyou, you know, and and our
friendship. Honored to call you afriend, Keith, you and Kelsey and
Whalen now or such special part ofour life, our story. I probably
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wouldn't have named him Whalen though,if I think about it, I'm Whalen
glennny funny story about that my momand dad. Whenever I told my mom
and dad our son's name for thefirst time, because Whalen isn't a very
stereotypical Irish name, it was like, oh, I almost got the email
of all the new lyrics for thebook, you know, and I was
like, we're going to call themWhalen. And my mom if she watches
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this moment, my mom was like, that's a nice name. She did
not like it at all. Mydad was like he didn't say anything either,
and they were like just sitting theregoing okay and kind of stared off
into the distance, and I waslike, well, that doesn't go exactly
how I planned, parents did it. I know that we have them,
I know that they have them.They give another name. He's completely a
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Whalen, Whalen whale and Dean Whalen, Dean Harken. But that's why,
but that is why you never tellpeople a name, because they always come,
oh, my dog was named that, Oh that that guy died that
was, you know, and likeyou'll never get the right name. That's
Whalen, and then you know it, he becomes a Whalen, right,
(41:16):
And that's that's how you end uphaving to do it. Or people always
find a name to associate that hasnothing to do with your you know,
child, never share baby names orsong lyrics or song Glen, how do
you feel that you've sorry? Iwent I'll asked you that earlier, and
I went on a round how doyou feel like me? Mean? And
they ask you about know that thebooks right there in the universe, the
(41:39):
metaverse, in all honesty, alljoking aside. You know, uh,
I wouldn't have probably written it hadit not been for the show, because
um, you know, I didthe show for different reasons than most people
would think. I wanted to reallyshow my kids they work hard, have
(42:00):
been through the cancer, and maybegood things can come. But I got
this big, huge, you know, after effect or whatever you want to
call it, was the swell ofsupport from people all around the world that
said, man, you motivated me, and this is very genuine and you
know, and I really it wasinspired. And I thought, you know,
(42:22):
so many people would ask me towrite about my life story, and
I thought, well, now,you know, maybe if I do,
go and show some of the painand some of the struggle. And yet,
you know, in the end,I'm really proud of where I am.
I'm proud of my friends and family, and I'm proud of everything.
(42:45):
But I went through some shit likea lot of people do. And if
that'll motivate some people, that'll inspiresome people, why not. So you
know, it really nice, werevery proud of it, really nice feedback,
are enjoying it, and you neverknow, when you put it out,
he's like, well, you know, your editors have read it.
They tell you, oh, Iyou know, we liked it a lot.
(43:07):
It really moved us. And youjust think well until people that you
don't know have read it or peoplethat are just then you really get the
real feedback so far. I mean, no one told us bad style.
I know. I'll tell you whathas happened, and that is to your
pointment, because people are going totell you good things, just like you
said that, people are gonna tellyou your song. Yeah it's good,
(43:27):
right, they're your friend. Butwhat the real people tell you. And
there's been people all over the worldthat have read it because of the show.
People, you know, I've beenfortunate to have people that follow me
all over and I've gotten very goodfeedback, you know, and not about
how it is written, but maybeabout the lessons learned, you know,
that's what to me. Whether andthen he puts it all out there in
(43:50):
such a raw, vulnerable reel,like you say, a real way.
It's a real look at Glenn.Yeah. So if people are trying to,
you know, maybe move themselves intoa position of being um in a
better spot in their life, whetherit's work or whether it's personal growth or
(44:12):
whatever, you know, I hopethey can find some nuggets in here.
I think. So a lot ofpeople have told us that and that it'll
get them to a space that youknow, they feel that they've learned and
grown from. And that's what I'dlike people to take away. Your birthday
copy is coming. You're signed personalbirthday copy and will be arriving via airmail.
(44:34):
I can't wait. I really can't. So well, thank you,
Keith. We look at what's yournext concert, which is there's something coming
up three more next week, everyweek on stage if anybody wants to tune
in Stage dot com forward Slasharkin.You're on Instagram, Instagram, Keith Harkin,
Facebook, Keith Harkin, Twitter,Keith Harkin, Patreon and listen to
Keith Harkin. And also I'll begoing on tour um probably November de Samber.
(45:00):
October November De Samber, Give ortake um all round America. Yeah,
oh, good good. I'm goingto be very excited to see you.
Oh I'm sure you're super excited.Well, we're excited to see you
at some point in that. Pleasegive our love to Kelsey and a lot
of hugs to Whalen. And I'mgonna call you about a possible Necker opportunity.
(45:22):
Oh that's serious. Let's go hereanother night on Necker. Let's go.
I'll bring an extra set of strings. Bull Circles makes you have six
strings that guys, I love youso much and it was a pleasure to
Chatties. Even if this is theway we get to do it. I'm
so happy, Glad. I'm soproud of you for doing your book.
(45:43):
It's awesome. I'm glad, Thankyou, thank you, good Man up
to Keith Chow Guys, love's loads, Chattie soon. Thank you.
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