E1655: FIRST AID for POTA, SOTA, Outdoors and Camping

Do you have a First Aid kit in your POTA or camping pack? Have you considered what you should have inside of it? Let's talk about it tonight...

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Good evening, thanks for joining us tonight. We're gonna get
started here in just one minute, all right, I show

(02:21):
seven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And uh, I don't know, I don't know if you
guys are ready for this yet, but uh this is something.
Uh there's something a friend of mine maid, so I
hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Here we go, wisdom signal.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
The third game back in my Dad wasn't all the same.
And those you two coats, they've all sold out. Beside
hand chorus, sparm, scream and shout of side, crying on
the bath and comelay eating bound. The crisest things ain't

(04:02):
going ass playing Saddam always in a jam, turns down
and there you are just a sad damn CB ain't
real radio?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay? Was that whole thing without sound because it was
it was playing on this side. Strange that it didn't
have any sound. It totally was playing on this side. Huh,

(04:42):
what do you know? Well there's Kyle Finny. Okay, all right,
well you know what you know what I say about
live stream streaming, Right, guys, if you've never messed up
anything on a live stream, then you haven't actually live streamed.
So let's okay, Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
There's that.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Can you hear me? Part of it was no sound.
Just the end was sound. Just the end was sound.
All right, I wonder, Okay, I I heard the second half.
I should have heard more than that. I think I

(05:32):
know why. I think I know why. All right, I
got to play this for you guys. Okay, let's let
me say tell me if you hear this. Okay, that's
too high.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
They're crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Ooh war.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Well.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
I tuned in to the chatter on Friday, let's say
night open for some wisdom or a signal soul. Right,
but all I heard was grumbling, a low frequency jam.
Every channel's crowded with sad Ham, Oh, sad Ham, crying

(06:21):
on the band, complaining about the prices. Things ain't going
ass playing sad Ham always in a jam. Turned the
down and there you are, just a sad Ham. These
new rigs are pricing just a corporate game. Back in

(06:42):
my day, it wasn't all the same. And those YouTube folks,
they've all sold out. The sad Ham chorus hero scream
and shout, Saddam crying on the bath, complaining about the
ristest things ain't going as playing sad Always in a

(07:08):
jam turns down there you are.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
What do you think your sister played on YouTube?

Speaker 6 (07:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh? Yeah, yeah A friend of mine did that for me,
and uh, I was like, yeah, I gotta play that
on it, but I got I gotta be selective. I've
actually had that for a while and I'm like, I
gotta play it on the live stream, but I don't
want to play it before the wrong guest because I
don't want to. Okay, well, at least it sounds working, Okay, okay,

(07:56):
all right, geesh, So what's going on?

Speaker 7 (08:00):
Nothing, let's have it.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Oh man, it is Sunday night and I haven't live
stream for like two weeks. Man, it's been Uh it's
it's deer hunting season.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I had a busy October and uh all kinds of stuff.
So yeah, glad to be back in the shack.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
So what what do you What are you guys up to?

Speaker 7 (08:24):
Uh, same same deal. I mean, I haven't live streamed
in a while. I'm thinking about going live on Thursday.
I got a topic that I want to cover, so
I don't know be watching for that. So I got
a video coming out. We uh put anew what we tried.
We kind of failed so just a little le FYI
I'm got I got a bunch of video of us

(08:45):
trying to put this thirty foot yagi on a sixty
foot beam or I'm sorry, a yagi on a sixty
foot tower and we failed. So I've got a whole
ton of video on how.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
How how did you fail not to do it?

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Not to do it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, did you just not bolt it up correctly?

Speaker 6 (09:06):
Or no?

Speaker 7 (09:07):
We so I hate to give out the the That's okay,
you know what we did, but we got it up there,
but we had some set had some issues, so you're
gonna have to watch the video, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's that's fair, that's fair. What's up, Tim? Thanks for
being here, buddy. Let me do a shout out to
all the YouTube channel members say I'm off my game
because that whole sound thing down. Douglas V Amateur Radio.
He was in there earlier. Andy Kelly was first. Gf

(09:39):
Odale was in there. Good evening, Tom W B seven
O U T. Saw you in there earlier too, Ed
A C three I K. Jason Perez. Let's see forty
five autos in there. Digital Warlock W five wn R.
That's a new name for you. Dude Cooley is in there.
Let's see who else? Uh, coolie again, Skeeter K seven

(10:05):
t r D. Thanks for being here. Jerry N eight
O w V Jerry Simonowitz and let's see Jason again.
Forty five auto. Several of you guys in there. Okay, Yeah,
thanks for the support. A Jeff A for BC.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Good evening.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Thanks for the support, guys, appreciate that. And yeah, we're
kind of kind of waiting on Frank here. We're going
to talk about how to not chop your finger off
at a PoTA outing here in just a little bit.
And I've I've created an Amazon list here that I'm
gonna put some stuff and we're gonna be talking about that.
A couple of quick announcements here. Okay, I'm I'm I'm

(10:49):
a little bit out of out of order tonight. But hey,
I haven't live streaming in three weeks. I'm rusty.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
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(12:00):
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(12:22):
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in the chat, and I will put those in the
description after the live stream ends. So I don't know

(12:42):
where Frank is, but we're just gonna go without him.
So so I wanted to do I hit up Kyle shortly.
So Kyle, I'm gonna let you tell your story there.
It's not a not a big deal. I don't think
I did watch your video. What's where you recorded that
video about the pack and the river behind you? Where
were you?

Speaker 7 (12:59):
There was a place called the Holla in North Carolina
and just south of Bryson City along the not a
Holla River.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Not a Hola yep.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
It's big whitewater rafting class two and three rapids. Well
maybe just one and two. But anyway, I went there
after Huntsville and just spent a week there, just you know,
sitting along the river literally drinking beer and wave into
the rafters.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's what I did, not a haul. It reminds me
that that line from Office Space samir not not not
gonna work here anymore? Parts car right side parked car.
Oh wow? All right? So so, so Kyle was Kyle

(13:54):
is gracious and uh benevolent enough to cook lunch for
hundreds of people for the last three or four years
at Montesano State Park on the Friday before the ham Fest,
we set up and do a poda thing and even
though the ladies have actually cooked the last two years,
but Kyle's kind of in charge of everything. So Kyle's

(14:15):
good at coordinating stuff like that. But he cut it.
But that wouldn't was that on Friday that you did? That?
Was it the night before?

Speaker 7 (14:22):
So the night before?

Speaker 6 (14:23):
It was?

Speaker 7 (14:24):
It was Thursday.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I was thinking that we were at my campsite when
you did that.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yeah, we were, yeah, yeah, we're slicing onions yep, and
yeah ouch, right, yeah. So, I mean the story goes.
You could probably fill in between the lines whenever if
I'm not telling the story completely. But I sliced the
crap out of my finger. I was cutting an onion
and had my finger in the wrong location and sliced

(14:50):
right through the onion. And it went through my finger too,
And it didn't go through the finger. I mean it
went through the finger, but didn't cut the finger, right,
I've got all of my fingers here, But it it
puts I want to say, Jason a c K. I'm
sure that it probably put a I want to say,

(15:13):
a half inch maybe three fourths of an inch gash
in my finger. I mean it was, it was deep,
and it was big, and it bled. It absolutely bled
like you wouldn't believe. And you know, the whole thing
with the the topic tonight. I had an emergency kit

(15:34):
in my trailer, but my trailer was you know, a
side over, and so you know, we sat there and
we stopped the bleeding and I wanted to go get
my emergency kit. Well, everyone else, you know, kind of
brought their emergency kits. And I think Jason had come
over and you know, him being the boy scout that
he is. You know, he's like, here, let me look

(15:54):
at it. And I showed it to him. He's just like,
you don't have the right stuff, son.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
That's pretty much exactly how he sounded.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
He's just like, I'll be right back. So then he
came over and I'll let him kind of tell the
story after that. But I mean he sprinkled this pixie
dust on my finger. That literally was like, you know,
it's like men in Black the whole the moon went way.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh, but yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
I did a video on my channel about you know,
I had had an emergency kit, but I went through
the kit and like literally with a new set of eyes,
tried to figure out is this something practical that I
need in this kit? And is it old? Is it expired?

(16:44):
Or if it's in the kit, will I know where
it is in the kit? And can I get to
it with one hand because the other hand I was
trying to make my fingerclot right. Can I get into
the kit and get into whatever I need with like
a first hand retrieval and get it to you know,

(17:07):
wherever I needed to get to with one hand and
get it get you know, first did applied? So I
determined that I did not have the right stuff in
my kit. I mean, I had a kit, but I
just didn't have the right stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I had a kit too, I keep a kit in
the back of my truck, and the I have a
molly panel on the back seat of my driver's seat,
the backside of my driver's seat. And but there was
two or three things and we're gonna talk about here
in a second that you guys had that. I'm like,
you know, I don't have that, And I've always thought
it would be a good idea. And I haven't bought
this yet, and I'm pretty sure you can legally buy
both an EpiPen and narcan. And I've always thought, you know.

Speaker 8 (17:48):
I think you can buy a Narcan. I don't think
you can buy an epipan.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
We cannot do an EpiPen without a prescription.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
See, I thought it was the opposite of that. I
thought I'd looked that up and I'd found EpiPens, but
not narcan on Amazon or on the internet. But you
might be right. I don't remember, it's been a while
since I looked. But I I mean, why the hell
would you not want an EpiPen to I mean, I
don't have I don't have you know, I don't. I'm not.
I'm not going all John Travolta in pulp fiction on anybody.

(18:17):
But you know it's I got a stabber in the
heart three times. But uh, you know, I mean it,
it'd be a good I mean, you never know who
you're camping with. Man and peanut allergies are a real thing,
and allergies to other stuff. For real, somebody gets bit
by something that they have an allergic reaction to, you
know that that might be a really good thing to
have in your kit.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
And those are also expensive, they are.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
They are expensive, Yeah, I remember there. I think I
looked them up at one point in time. They were
like two hundred dollars. And the only problem with that
is I think they expire after a year or two,
So if you don't use it, then you just basically
lose that two hundred bucks. Yeah, anyway, So but yeah,
but but the the clotting stuff that you had, and
the pixie dust as you call it, and uh, and

(19:01):
the glue, I didn't have any of that, you know.
I had a bunch of gaus and band aids and
hydrogen perox side and.

Speaker 9 (19:07):
And and also what was sorry, I didn't mean to
cut you out, cha, No, go ahead, go ahead. So
and what was amazing about the wound and the way
that it got dressed was, you know, Jason dressed the
wound and he you know, put the dust on it
and you know, let him explain what was going on there.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
He dressed the wound, and I felt a little fainty.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
You know.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
I had to get a little bottle of water, and
I was just like, I need to sit down. I'm
gonna yeah, I'm gonna feign, but I'm okay with you know, blood.
But you know, whenever it's your blood and you're you know,
you've got something going on, it's a little different story.
But you know, I I looked at that that gash,
you know, twelve hours after and I was just like, wow,

(19:51):
I'm I'm one really lucky, and two that thing is
going to leave a scar, right, It is gonna huge
leave this huge scar down the riddle with my finger
and literally yeah, I mean you guys can't see it,
but there's no scar whatsoever. After Jason dressed that wound
and said, all right, in twelve hours, take your bandage off,
clean your bandage, and like, give that thing a good scrubbing.

(20:14):
With soap and water and then rebandage it and you know,
keep it clean and whatnot. He's like, it'll be brand
new in three days. Sure enough, that bandage came off
in like two and a half or three days, and
it was like, you know, you could still see the scar,
but it had totally closed up. It had started to heal.
And within a week that scar was I mean, the

(20:37):
scar was there still there and it still had to heal,
but I was using my finger like normal. I was
typing and doing all the other things. So the stuff
that Jason had that he's going to tell you about
is amazing. Everyone should go out and grab some of
the stuff because it is great.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
I had a pretty good first day kit when I
was doing the search and rescue. Oh yeah, I had gloves, gauze.
I did not have any click clock because they didn't
want us to use it because we were prepping to
get people out and that might hinder other things down
the line. So we were just told to pack it,
pack it tight, and wrap it around so it puts

(21:17):
press aro on it. Because once we get to the ambulance,
they might have wanted to reopen up that womb and
they don't want to clear out anything. So we didn't
do that, and but I stopped carrying it because one
it's usually in the car, but since I've been going
out and doing Podo lot, it's that whole backpack and

(21:37):
everything stopped being carried around. But there was some pretty
cool stuff in there. I don't have it on me
right now.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
But well, tell us, is this the same thing? Is
this what you're gonna talk about? Go ahead, Jason, you can,
you can have the floor.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah. First of all, I gotta give a shout out
to my wife. I was actually enjoying a beer and
some conversation when she rolled up through the first aid
kid at me and said, Kyle Cutty's finger off. Okay,
So I had no clue this was even going on
until that. But the product that you'll keep calling Pixie

(22:13):
does is womb Seal. It's not quite the same as
quick clock, but fairly similar. But I've been a huge
advocate of it for for several several years.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Isn't this the the one that you told me you
you had, Kyle?

Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Okay, so is do you have something different Jason?

Speaker 8 (22:34):
The womb Seal?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, it's not this bleed stop brand.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
I can't see what's on your screen right now?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Uh, you should be able to say, zoom is a
virtual camp. You should be able to see what I'm
sharing on.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
No, we just got you.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
Yeah, we just got It's all we got.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh okay, all right, I can fix that. That's just
on yourll side. Yeah, let's see. Okay, how about that
right there? Yes, yeah, okay.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
Yeah, that is not the one I boughted. I've got
the one that's let me make sure I'm not telling
you wrong. Yeah. It's literally called wound.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Seal, wound seal. Okay, that is it top left, top
lest Okay, all right, So it's.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
A clotting agent. Basically, all it does is it creates
the scab. But for you, it just does it instantly
as soon as it comes in contact with the blood.
We poured that stuff on it, and I told Kyle,
I said, don't be alarmed. Literally, it's gonna look like
I'm pouring dirt on your hands.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, and it does.

Speaker 8 (23:38):
It literally looks like dirt when it comes out of
the tube. But we poured it on there. We stuck
a two B two gulls on it, wrapped it up,
and I just told him, don't open it up for
twelve hours, let it do its thing after you you know,
after that twelve hour period, take the bandage off, wash
your finger, and rewrap it. And usually about three days

(24:02):
you're good to go. And that that cut was deep
enough it could have probably used a stitch or a team.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay. I was judging that, Jason by
if there was going to be a scar, you know,
and if there was going to be you know, if
I could look at it today and be like, yeah,
the thing is still I can still see the scar.
I should have went to the emergency room. I mean,

(24:32):
there is I can't even tell. I mean, I know
that it was this finger, but I can't I can't
tell you know, where the uh the scar starts and
stops because it's gone. But you're totally right. I mean,
if if I had not like been so stubborn and
be like, Nope, not going to the emergeny room, Gotta
cook some onions, I think I probably, you know, should

(24:55):
have gone to the emergence room but or gotten a
couple of stitches.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
But yeah, that would be going to be about thirty
thirty ish minutes or more away for where we're at
right time, right.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, Well, I mean it's not like that wound was
going anywhere.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
So the nice thing about that stuff is, I mean
you had a cut where you could actually close it
back up. I have cut the tip of a finger
before where there was nothing left to close up. I
just sliced off a hunk of meat and using that
wound seal it still got the bleeding stopped in short order,

(25:32):
and same thing three or four days later. I mean,
it's not healed, but it's enough that you can remove
the bandage and lightly at least use that hand.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
So I'm a big fan of it.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
Well you may be a fan too.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I'm going to put that one in. Put that
one in my kid here. Then I probably should have
bought all this stuff before now, but I want to
do this live stream and pick Yall's brain more real
time than what we were. Everything was kind of chaos
that night. I did find bleed clot, the one that
Kyle linked to me. I did find it for your
pet also, so I would I'm probably gonna pick up

(26:11):
one of these because you know, I usually have a
lecture with me so and you know, so several other
people have dogs with them.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
And it's how different that is versus the one for humans.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know, it's probably the same damn thing, just different
packaging from marketing. So oh, now I buy one of each,
you know, but you're buying.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
The same thing, you know.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
Do you know?

Speaker 7 (26:30):
Somebody commented on my video when I did it on
my other channel about what about your dog? What do
you have the right first aid for your dog? And
I was just like, hmmm, uh no, probably not, but
you know, so then I went down the rabbit hole
of trying to figure out, okay, what are some common things,
you know, and it's more paw related, right right, right right,

(26:54):
they're gonna step on, you know, a goat's head or
you know, something like if you're in a desert. There
was a lot of snake bite.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right yeah. Yeah. And I actually got I don't remember
where I picked it up. I think I got it
from the dog rescue that Emily and I volunteer with
is called Dallas Pets Alive. And at some point time,
you know, we get stuff from them because we're we're
fosters for them and we've done some volunteer work for them.
Somewhere along the way, I picked up an actual dog
first aid kit and I've taken most everything out of

(27:27):
it and added it to my first aid kit. So
I've kind of got some stuff from both kits in
my main first aid my I fact if you were,
if you will in the back of the truck. But
so I've I've had stuff like that for a while.
But because I'm always concerned about about her getting out there,
I mean, the bad thing.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, I was going to ask, do you have anything
for pads just in case it gets too hot or
cold that.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I don't know. I don't have anything like that. I've
I've not faced that problem very regularly, but you know,
like out at the hunting lease, it's been like in
the eighties for the last couple of deer seasons. Started
a week ago yesterday, so for the last two or
three weeks, it's been in the eighties during the day.
And my buddy Mike out there that hunts with this,
he's like, he brought his dog out yesterday but not

(28:14):
last weekend, and he's like, well, I don't like him
rooting around for copperheads in the bush because it's it's
not gotten cold enough yet for all the snakes to
go in the ground in hybridation. So and I'm like, well,
that's a good point. Even though there's not there's not
really many snakes out there, but still the sentiment is there.
I mean, you don't want your you don't want your
dog getting into something. I mean, what if what if
your dog has There's a bunch of scorpions out there,

(28:36):
And while those are not poisonous or deadly, what if
they have an allergic reaction to a scorpion or a
beasting or something like that. So you know, you kind
of want to be prepared for all contingencies. None of
the stupid wasps have been crazy in north to just
here at home and up there this year, just those
wasps everywhere. Goy all right, Frank, you can go with

(28:59):
your gup store.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
So this is probably something to look into. But having
something for washed things and beastings, not just the allergic
we asked just to treat the womb. I was at
the park a couple of weekends ago with my girlfriend
and there was a yellow jacket flying around and he

(29:20):
got into my hair and those and a couple of
times I was like, Okay, get away, and then I
felt him flying again, and I took my hoodie and
I was like slowly pulling it above my head to like,
you know, encourage him to go away. And then I
felt like something like I pulled my hair, he trapped him.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
That mother stunk me on the top of the hell.
It hurt for the whole day.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
It was, Oh, but have something just general, because that's,
to be honest, not the first time I was stung
by a wasp, so I knew I wasn't in danger
of any allergics. But I wonder if there's anything we
can get to ease the pain. And also that's a
good question, protect it other than a band aid.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I was. I was. I never was stung by a
wasp until like two years ago, and never in my
whole life, never been stung by a wasp until two
years ago. And I was out at the hunting lease
and I always open up the shed and right inside
the door, we keep a storage shed out there, and
there's it's a double door, like an old barn door
like that opens up like this, So you open up
this side, then you reach in and you grab the

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handle and you open up the inside. As soon as
I opened up this side, there was a wasp nest
right there, and I heard it come down I heard
it go with ZiT and it hit me right there
in the shoulder, and I just was like ah and
and I'm like okay. Well, and then I saw him
flying around up there. I'm like okay, and I'm like, okay,
I guess we're gonna I guess if my wife, you know,
if I don't come home tonight and I die because

(30:51):
of anaphylactic shock because I don't know if I'm allergic
to these damn things or not, I guess she's gonna
come up here and find me. But you know, it
didn't hurt for more than like, I mean like literally
five minutes, and probably wouldn't even that long. I'm like
that was that was. It hurt for like a few seconds,
then five minutes later I didn't even know it was there.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
My head hurt the whole day.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Well, the head's a lot more sensitive. It depends on
where you get stung, right, And then in at our
family reunion just this last June, I was stung by yellowjacket.
I was walking through the yard and I was and
actually in my yard. I got stung by yellow jacket
like a week after that, just because they they they
they I don't know if they nest in the yard,
or if they nest down low somewhere in the bottom

(31:31):
of a bush. But you walk by him, and you know,
they just they just think you're invading them. And I
got stung on the on the on the foot or
on the ankle twice, and those hurt for like ten
or fifteen minutes. But you know, in the media part
of the shoulder here, it didn't really hurt that badly,
but that one on my foot kind of hurt. And
now the yellow jacket was half the size of that
that walks. But the good news is I'm not allergic

(31:53):
because it didn't die from any of that. I didn't
put anything on them. I just like kind of walked
them off. And I don't know. But uh yeah, haven't
haven't got it. Roberts in there talking about he got
into some scorpions earlier. I haven't been stunn by a scorpion. Yeah,
So knock on this is actual wood right here. I'm
gonna knock on it. So, but something like a sting
treatment like that is a good idea. Yes, huh.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
I see venom are removers for bee stings. I'm just
doing some googling, but I don't see a lot of
post treatment for a sting other than get the stinger out.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
For bees, yeah that's yeah, Yeah, that's on bees. You
got to really piss bees off to I mean, you know,
if you're trying to take their honey, I guess. But
if they're just flying around you, they're not going to
bother you. Generally speaking, wasps, they're just mean mothers. They're
just mean, mean.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Mother So Poto time says, wash the area with cool
water and for about ten to fifteen minutes.

Speaker 8 (32:50):
Okay, yeah, if you're from the southeast, just put some
nicotine on it.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Everyone says, it's just drink more whiskey. Yeah, yeah, have
any whiskey at the time.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I've heard mustard. But that's for a burn, not necessarily
for a sting.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
But keep burn jail in my first st aid kid
in the art, because that's something that you're gonna run
around when you're camping, or you're gonna run into when
you're camping. Is somebody grabbing something hot out of the
fire or off the grill. Yeah, so I'll always keep
burn jail in that kit.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Burn jail. Okay, now there's some of that right here. Okay,
that's I'll add that to the pack just little packets
of it.

Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, I've just got some they almost a little like
a ketchup packet.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
To keepeah in mind. Yeah, yeah, okay, I've got some
stuff like that in here. That's a good idea. Yeah,
because you're gonna get you know, grab a pot uh
pot handle or something like that. It's gonna be hot
at some point. But I guess that's true. Freddy Max
says baking soda and water that actually does work. Yeah,

(33:58):
cigar smoke slows down beds, not wasps.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I tried blowing cigar smoke at the one that was
in my deer stand last week, and it didn't seem
to that bead was he was like he was fast,
little sucker like cheez But uh yeah, I mean, uh,
I wish that cigars would repel you know. I like
the sign that they have up. But Michael's that says,
I use my cigars as idiot repellent. You've seen that one, Frank.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
I was. I was just there before the strings.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I know, I got your text earlier. I was busy,
but I just got home a little bit ago.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
I figured as much. I didn't know if you would
be around, but are we ready for the next thing.
I saw a good suggestion in the chat, Sure, go ahead,
a CPR shield. So a CPR shield is a plastic
device that you put over someone you're about to give
CPR on, and then some of them have one way

(34:56):
valves so you can only breathe it to them. Because
when taking some of these CPR classes, and I actually
had to do it one time, you don't know what happened,
what caused him to fall over. He could be sick
with something, or when you're doing CPR sometimes it causes
the person to vomit, and you don't want that stuff

(35:16):
coming into your mouth either. So those shields are these
A lot of them are designed to have a one
way valve so you can only breathe into them and
nothing comes back on you. Or a couple of them
are just the little plastic inserts so you're not mouth
to mouth with some old guy on the ground. But yes,
that was in my pack too.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Good.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah it's a good idea. Yeah, yeah, that's a really
good idea.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Did we already talk about tourniquets.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
We did not. Somebody in the chat I mentioned tourniquets
are useless without training. I've actually through my sheep dog training.
My church security group that I trained with a couple
of years ago. They taught us how to use a tourniquet.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
You're not doing it right to the guy yells a.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Lot, Yeah, that's go.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Go to a stop the bleed class. Yes, yeah, I
give them all over the country.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
That's that's that's what we had. We had to stop
the bleed class. Yep, and by a guy who does
that sort of thing, and he does training tactical medicine.
In fact, I had talked I had talked to a
tac med guy at one point time about coming onto
my live stream to just to just to kind of
go over some high level stuff. So I think that'd
be I think that'd be time.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
It's also correct, to be honest, I've been taking CPR
classes over about fifteen years now. The current revolution of
this is less breathing, more compressions. But I've seen that
go away and come back number of times. So it's
up to you.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Makes sense, Okay, you know what.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
Your favorite outdoors store might offer classes in first aid
basic first aid. We've got a Saint Louis, We've got Ori,
but we also have this place called the Alpine shop
and they every month do just first you know, individual
first aid kits, what you should get, how you should

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use the stuff in the kit, YadA YadA.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Austly, if you wanted more advanced one, check out red Cross.
I took a Red Cross class when I was in
college two decades ago now, but they covered everything from
splints to deep gashes to other things.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
Another good one is wilderness first Aid. Ever get the opportunity, yeah,
take it?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Does Canterbury teach something like that?

Speaker 8 (37:40):
I do not know.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
He's got some really really awesome looking classes, like like
he's got intro to Basic, Intermediate and Advanced Bushment, Bushcraft, Wilderness, Survival,
Building Sheltered. He's got a bunch of stuff, and man,
I just if he was freaking closer than Ohio, I

(38:02):
would have gone to two or three of those by now.
I was just and I email him sometimes I'm like, dude,
I really want to take your class, and he's like, man,
just let me know when. I'll make sure you get
a spot, and I'm like, I appreciate it, but it's
just it's a two day drive to get there. Yeah,
and I would want it. I would want to drive
there because I would want my gear with me and

(38:23):
whatever gear because he's got a list of gear at
the at the bottom of the class sign up page.
He's got a list of gear here. He's like, here's
what you need. And I'm like, okay, I'm not bringing
a bowie knife and matches and crap like that on
a freaking airplane. So and I just I would prefer
to drive anyway. That's just me. But but I really
want to take one or two of his classes. I

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think that would be really really beneficial and fun to learn.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
The search group I was a part of do have
Wilderness First, DAID do Regular one and also Advanced, which
I never was able to get out to, and I
kind of regret that because that would have been so
much fun. Yeah out of forty five of course Technical
Emergency Casualty Care class.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yes, pretty yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
I just google these Stop the Bleed courses. All of
the ones in my area are at hospitals and it
looks like they're they're taught by, you know, someone from
the hospital staff, and they're all free.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
Really Stop the BEAD is a free class. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
So the one I'm looking at here is at Mercy
South Hospital, Saint Louis. It is from It's on eleven
twenty four, so it's a Monday and it's four thirty
to six pm. Free.

Speaker 8 (39:46):
It's worth it. The one I took was free, Yeah, yeah,
but definitely worth it.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (39:52):
And Frank try if they aren't screaming, you don't have
the turning get tight enough.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Ben Paul says Wilderness survival and cannibalism for dummies. Dude, Paul,
you've been to Japan too many times, Buddy, I mean.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
For dummies.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Know what he's talking about. Oh dude, that's great. Yeah, yeah.
Do you guys, here's a good question. Do you guys
renew your shirt training every three years? Do you guys
have cert where you guys, Jason and Kyle, do you
have shirt where you live?

Speaker 8 (40:28):
Nope, we have.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Someone's gonna have to school me in the in the comments.
We have certification classes for our ares and races. I
don't know if that goes towards SERT or if it's another.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
A no, sir, it is community emergency rescue training or
something like that. It's it's generally done by it's Ham
Radio adjacent, but it's usually not a Ham radio club
or group that does it. In fact, a lot of
them use gmrs, at least in this area. That's how
they do. The city of Grapevine, last I checked, does

(41:05):
not have a CERT program, so it's something that the
city has to sign off on. The City of Hurst
has one. I think Bedford and US both have one.
Two or three of the other cities around me have one.
But last I checked because because Hurst was the Hurst
Radio Club was working in conjunction with the Hurst Cirt
Club there for a while, and they still might I don't.
I don't know, but but at the time, this was

(41:27):
three or four years ago, it was right before COVID,
I think, and the City of Grapevine. I was like,
I'm going to get involved with the city of Grapevine.
They don't have a CERT program at all in this city.
So I never really got involved in CERT because I
was like, well, it's not I'm not gonna if something
were going to happen, I'm not going to drive to
Hurst to assist them. I want to stick close to
home and be in my actually my actual community, in

(41:49):
my neighborhood, and they don't they don't have anything like
that here.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
I was looking to do something more, not just to
the local community, and that's why I joined that search
and rescue group.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
It goes, yeah, well and that's techs are right. Yeah,
so that's Texas Searching k Yeah, totally agree, but that's
that's also not CERT. No, they kind of overlap a
little bit, but that's not the same thing.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
Yeah, I'm looking here. So the city doesn't have CERT training,
but the county does, so okay, okay, Yeah, Saint Louis
is kind of screwy that they've got. So I live
in the city, but the city is also a county,
and then the county is a county also, so you know,
there's it's two different to two different counties. But Saint

(42:29):
Louis County County has CERT and looks like they've got
workshop classes Tuesdays and oh my gosh, Tuesdays and Thursdays
from six thirty to ten every week. Wow. That seems
a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, it does seem like a lot. I'm sure that
the I mean, I'm sure it's not a new class
every day, right, probably like four classes and then they
start over again or something.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
Maybe.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
I think you have to take a number of different
types of classes.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. I think the CERT training program
was like I don't know, for six weeks. It was
like one or two days, one or two evenings a week,
a couple of hours for for for several weeks. I
don't I don't remember exactly how long it was.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
But yeah, yeah, it's on, yeah, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Thursdays
is at the Forest Park Community College campus. Yeah, so yeah,
it looks like they do have that. Yeah, interesting, sir.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
It is Citizens Emergency Response Team. I think I said
rescue team. Yeah, Citizens Emergency Response Team. But uh, yes, sir,
it is a lengthy Yeah. Oh, Izzo was a cert trainer,
helpful for grants and other funding sources.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Okay, good, nice.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Did y'all also cover backup knives and scissors to have
in your so?

Speaker 1 (43:53):
So there's a so I have scissors in my kit.
I have these Madison Supply scissors. I've had these for
a long time. I actually owned these, several of these,
like this bleed stop and the burn gel and stuff.
I've added this kid, I don't have this yet. I'm
gonna go buy those after the stream.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
That would have been way easier. Just cut off the
rest of his finger.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, you don't want those, you want
a good knife for that, Jason, my finger shurts clipping.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
Now it doesn't hurt anymore.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Now you don't have a finger.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Like that, like that scene from a major pain. I
got something to take your mind off that painting your
finger work every time.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Yeah. So the scissions you were just sowing there on
screen were fabric scissors that will cut through heavy, heavy material.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
It's made for cutting uh sorry, just the wrong screen.
It's made for cutting off off like uh.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Clothing, clothing, heavy material, slow jeans.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, yeah, go through genes.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
And if it goes through jeans, you pretty much could
go through anything. Yeah, that's a good thing to have.
I also recommend having a backup ead C knife in
your kit because you might lose the knife that you
traveled with, or you wanted a clean knife or something.
You can always have another knife.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Can't have too many of those, right. Well, I'll tell
you what these days, I've got flashlights coming out my years.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Oh a flashlight flash.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I've got flashlights every freaking wear. I just for some reason,
I see a flashlight online and have to buy it.
I don't know why.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Uh, we now got flashlights everywhere before I did. They
search a rescue group I hated the headlamps, but now
I'm a I sing by that I would like amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, I don't like I don't like the headlamps either,
but they are incredibly useful for setting up camp, setting
up an RV, setting up deer camp, walking to and
from a deer stand in the dark. They're incredibly useful
if you if you need your hands to do something,
putting gas in a generator after dark. Very Yeah, headlamps
are worth their weight in gold for sure.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
And backup batteries for all your for your lamps that
made lamps and if you can only buy ones that
have the same battery type, so only double ships.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, that's true. But we were We went to uh
uh Carlsbad Caverns on vacation this year. We went to
Big Ben. We stayed, stayed for two or three nights,
and we went through Guadaloupe Mountains and UH and then
Carlsbad caverns, all national parks and uh in Carlsbad Cavers.

(46:25):
You've ever been there, Frank, Carlos Bad.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, you go down in the yes, yeah, you go
down in the big caverns and it's all underground. It's
nice and cool down there. So we get we we
get in there and and uh, we're like, I don't know,
twenty or thirty steps in and Emily's like, oh, I
forgot we're supposed bring your flashlight. I was like, I
got two of them. She's like, she's like, of course
you do, talking about yeah, I've got two of them.

(46:55):
Oh yeah, but yeah, so we act we activated those
natural parks on that trip, and she activated all of
them as well, and that's why we were there. But
that was a fun trip to walk through those caverns
as well.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
Those are a great place to go visit. I'm trying
to think of what else. You know.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
One of the things that whenever I was going through
my pack was to remove and refresh all of the
things that had expired.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Right, Yeah, it's good. I did to check it about
about once a year, I'd say. In fact, I heard
I heard one guy. There's a guy on YouTube called
Marine X. He's actually here in the North Texas area,
and he does he's a former marine, and he does
like EDC gear, like all kinds of everyday carry DC gear,
and he has a he has a pack that like
an emergency get home pack that he keeps in his car,

(47:46):
and he's got two of them. He's got one for
winter and one for summer. He's like, he's like that
way when you at the end of the summer, when
you're changing out to your winter pack, you pull out
your winter pack and everything that's expired, you go through
it and you know, renew it, and then when you
change it out to the summer pack six months later,
you do the same thing the summer pack. So it's
always a good idea to, yeah, go through that at
least once a year and make sure you know any

(48:07):
batteries you have. If you have batteries in flashlight, I
don't know why anyone would buy a I don't know
why anyone buy a flight. I mean, if I were
going to buy a flashlight for a pack like that,
I would that I was only going to get into
every now and then I would buy a USB rechargeable battery.
These days, yeah, you can get flashlights with eighteen six
fifties and they're good flashlights and whatnot, But if you're

(48:29):
not carrying that every day, I wouldn't put like a
flashlight with a double A or a couple double as,
or an eighteen sixty fifty and a pack that I'm
going to put away for several months because more times
than not, I've had those batteries explode, especially if you
get the cheapy ones off Amazon. You have those batteries
explode and it corrodes the contacts inside the flashlight or
the little radio you have, and then it's ruined. You

(48:49):
can't really ever fix it after that.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
I've put a little piece of plastic like they do
on the new devices, So I unscrew them that piece
of plastic and I screw them back so that lights
has the battery they and it's not constant.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, or just keep it, keep a fresh
set of double a's or eighteen batteries and don't put
it in the device. So yeah, but but you know,
simple things like that is a good practice to get into.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
Bill says to have a webcutter available and a glass breaker,
so in your car. I think that was a good
thing to have in your car and not in your
pack because a lot of times these packs are in
the bottom of your backpack, so they need to be
in the center console.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
Yes, right, Well, well you want one of those, yeah,
where you can get to it. So therefore, if you
if you flip your car into a pond or a
lake and your windows don't roll down, you can get
the windows open after have you did? You guys? There
was a date line where I they did like common

(49:55):
how to get out of common? Not common, but like
if you're in a in a situation, how to get
out of it. And one of the things that I'll
never forget this if you if you drive your car
or your truck into a lake or a body of
water and it starts to fill up and you can't push,

(50:16):
you can't get your door open. It's because the pressure
is different from the inside of the outside. So you
literally have to let the cab fill up with water
to a point where then you can equalize the pressure
and then push the door open. And I'm like, that
experience has got to be one of the worst where
it's coming up and you have to let it go

(50:37):
all the way up you can push, Oh my gosh,
it's just like there's no way.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
Did y'all watch MythBusters? That was something that they tested
and they're like, this is the freakiest thing we've ever done, because,
like you said, you have to literally sit there and
wait for that air pocket to go all the way
up the ceiling.

Speaker 7 (50:55):
I'm not going to let it get to that point.
I'm going to get that door open.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Just roll up, roll the window down, or break it.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
You know. Yeah, well a lot of that. You're going
to be cancussed because you're going to go, let's say,
forty five fifty miles an hour to nothing really fast.
You're going to be dazed, and your point of opening
that door is gone already.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I've seen plenty of stupid people just driving the rivers
for no reason. So I mean, yeah, it happens in
Galveston every time the island floods, just people driving to
people driving. Some guy in a freaking a Toyota or
a pre not a not a truck, but like a
like a little Sedan or a Prius or some crap
like that, and they're just floating down there. I'm like, hey,
it's a good thing you brought that little cartoon car

(51:36):
out here, little the what's it called, the the little
Frank lookalike car, but alsohire Sapphire lookike car. You know,
to drive through a freaking flooded street down here.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Is not running on batteries.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
True, true, Yeah, you drive a battery car through a
river out.

Speaker 7 (51:58):
Goodness, now dancing on Pull three Sapphire.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
Y'all you're just jealous. She's beautiful and blue.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
No, No, we're really not. No, No, Kylin and I
both have blue cars. No, we're not jealous, trust me.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
Oh what else? Someone said? It israel bandage or compress
Those are good to have their their turna cake like,
but they also provide a lot of pressure to the womb.
So if it's a larger womb, that will help keep
pressure on it constantly.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I've heard of Israeli bandages, but I'm not sure exactly
what they are.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
They're kind of like so they have a gauze and
padding on the outside. So after you pack a deep womb,
you put that on there, and they'll have butterfly wraps
that you'll circle or you go up and over a
couple of times. Then you can tie it tight on
top of the womb and it will keep a constant
pressure on them.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Gotcha.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
Okay, So it's for a large gash or deep stat womb.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, okay, all right, we'll add that to the to
the kit here too, so.

Speaker 8 (53:09):
I keep my kits separated. I mean, I've got kind
of basic everyday items, and then I've got severe bleeding.
So I think about those as two different things.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I would yeah, I mean if you if yeah, yeah,
I would think that's two different things.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
Also, and you have different do you have different packs
for oh you kind of answered my question, but for
different locations, like would you have a car pack? And
then you've got another pack in your RV that has
different types of contents.

Speaker 8 (53:41):
So my truck has the major bleeding bag in it.
And then I have two what I just call booboo
kits that has the wound seal in them. It's got
band aids, it's got aspirin, it's got a few two
by two gullses. I mean, it'll fix a finger. But
if you've got severe bleeding, we got to go get

(54:01):
the bigger kit.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (54:03):
So, and then I've got those. I've got the major
bleeding components in various places. For instance, I've got one
of those that stays on my range bag, so if
we're going to the range, that's always with me. I
don't want to have to go back to the truck
if I need that.

Speaker 7 (54:22):
Yeah, So do you have tell me if this is true?
So you've got a pack in your truck that's got
some major trauma things that that you keep in there, right, yes,
in case you come across something that needs attention right away.
But do you have a less severe kit like that
Buba kit in your RV, because therefore you can get

(54:46):
something on whatever you need to, you know, a wound
or whatnot. But then you're probably gonna get to a
point where it's safe, and then you're gonna get back.
You're gonna get into the truck and then go somewhere
where it's where you can get more attention.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
So I have one of the Booboo kits with the
wound sealed and all that stuff I was talking about,
both in the r V and in the truck.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
And in the house.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
Gotcha, gotcham.

Speaker 8 (55:08):
So I keep multiple because I might be in the
truck without the r V, right right, so right, so
I want that with me. But I also have one
in the r V because if we're camping, that's the
first place somebody's gonna go. Look.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea. I don't have
one of those in my new RV. I should do that,
So I have one in my truck. I figured that
anytime I'm in the r V. I'm gonna be in
the truck, so I just keep it all in the truck.
But it doesn't have It doesn't hurt to have a
redundant backup if something you can get to maybe a
little bit quicker.

Speaker 8 (55:41):
Well, if I left in the truck and the wife
needed something, yeah, yeah, there's a you know, there's another
one there.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yep, yep, true ha.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
Un till it hurts, don't. Yeah, it was just hilarious.
Have y'all talked about also just things to have on
your person, Like in my first day kit, I also
have fire starters in there and water pure offiers, so
if I do get lost, it's a self contained that
I can also have, like kind of an emergency kit.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Also, Well, you're talking about the ten things to go
hiking or camp or yeah, right, your little ten things
for hiking day hiking ten essentials.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, yeah, No, we didn't really get into that. That's
not really what we were talking. I mean, it's good.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
Good on my person first day kit because that's part
of the emergency in my mindset. So that's where I
put a couple of things in there for that.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
Along with your tube of preparation.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
H and his portable Sepa machine.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
Hey man, I can't sleep without that thing anymore.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
And yeah, you never tell.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
You're gonna take a nap, you right, You're obviously not
drinking enough whiskey, Frank. But yeah, but that that'd be
another that'd be a good Uh, that'd be another good
episode to do, like a fire starters and uh, like
a get home like I've got I've got like two

(57:14):
get home bags. I've got to I've got two get
home bags and I've got what I call and again
I got these ideas from this Marine X guy on YouTube.
Two get home bags. One of them is right here
in front of me because I was going to do
a video about it, but I need to put it
in my truck. And I have a blackout bag. And
what that is is it's a bag you keep in

(57:34):
like a closet of your house so that when your
power goes out, which I this is not a dig
I promise you, but you know people in California with
they have really the crummy power grid out there, and
those brownouts and blackouts all the time, you have something
in your bag where you can you know, you can
have radios, flashlights, you know, some emergency water maybe some
protein bars that kind of thing. But you have something

(57:56):
and you know it's all just in one place. That
way you don't have to go dig in through stuff
through the house and blah blah blah this kind of thing. Yeah,
So so I've got he's he's got he's like, got
this blackout bag that he's like, this is what I
keep in the house for when the power goes out,
you know, big storm, crummy power grid, whatever, whatever the
case may be.

Speaker 8 (58:14):
And instood a video online in September.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
For a blackout bag. Yep, okay, okay. I generally, I generally, uh,
I get your I get your notifications about your video feeds.
But I don't. Uh, I didn't see that one.

Speaker 8 (58:30):
But you don't. You don't watch them, it's what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I watched them. I watched the ones. I get the notifications,
and I watch the ones that I think will be
interesting to me sometime in the next forty eight hours.
I like the APR S ones. Man APR S ones
are really good. Yeah, and uh, I like the one
about your uh your your your MA expedition go bag

(58:54):
for your was it an FT five or FT three?
Your FT three radio? I copied that one and I
gave you credit in my video. I was like, this
is a great idea. I'm gonna do this myself.

Speaker 8 (59:07):
So no, I did that during National Preparedness mont Ah.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
Yes, yeah, what month was that?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I think I remember September.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
I totally missed that.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, September.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
I usually go through and look at what's going on
sale for text free weekend in Texas and see if
I want anything. Usually that's when I buy the the
tarp that I've probably ripped up by it last year.
So yeah, tarps of steaks. Steaks never have enough.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Steaks, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
He's always losing them, bending them given to someone and
they never return it.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
One thing I do need is a hammer. Not not
in my first day kit, but I need a small
hammer for.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
Everything's a hammer, Frank, everything that hammer, well, you're just
not using the device to its full potential.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
You're gonna want to go to the grocery store and
get that little hammer that's like that weighs like four
or five ounces, because that would fit nicely in sapphire
until you until you get it, until you get a
real vehicle. I wouldn't put a hammer in.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
There, So well, I want to put it in the
PoTA pack. So I want to hammer a steak into
the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah. No, what I've what I've started using is those
uh those drill because I carry my uh my wireless
drill with me everywhere. And and those drill ones that
you can put in the ground with like a hammer drill.
Those are those are cool.

Speaker 8 (01:00:38):
How do we go from first aid gets to hammer drills?

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
Hammer drill?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It's all adjacent. I don't know. Yeah, is all right?

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
I could be a hammer all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Right, Jerry, I I got a comment on on that, buddy. Okay,
Texas Telly in California, they have a bad power grid.
That's like the kettle calling the pot black.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
L o l.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
It happened not once, not unless the kettle is this
big and the pot is the size of my freaking truck. Okay,
So I can put the kettle. I can put the
kettle in my pocket, and the pots the size of
the truck. So yes, we had that thing, that Texas Snowmageddon.
That was twenty twenty one. It was almost six years ago,
and or almost five years ago, brother, Yeah, And in

(01:01:24):
the fifty years that I've lived in this state. That's
the only time that's happened. And yeah, we don't have
regular brownouts here. That's not a thing because because they have,
because the power grid is overloaded with stuff, so we don't.
We don't. Never had that, never had that, so kind

(01:01:45):
of not the same thing. But uh, but that's just me.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
California's do it to themselves. They're shutting off all their
old file plants and coal plants and m all right,
I'm done, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah we can.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
We can do another episode about powering back up. So well, Texas.

Speaker 8 (01:02:07):
Just as many electric vehicles not yet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Well that's true. Well the tests here now, Tesla is here.

Speaker 7 (01:02:16):
Now can say Elon's taking up residency.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, in in South Texas?

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
There have you? Have you been to that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
Boca Boca we're on? I want to? Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
It is huge. Now, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Do not know. I would. I would love to go
down there. And the SpaceX launches take a place down
on the coast to.

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Their test launches. Yes, they have regulars down there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah we should.

Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
I mean, here's something a Jason here, Jason, that you're
talking about. We should plan a trip we should plan
a ham radio trip where we go down and we
watch rocket launches and we activate PODA.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
We can totally do that. I mean, we can even
get a special event call signed to do that. Yeah,
and yeah, that would. I've talked about doing that with
a couple of the guys up here in one of
the local clubs. And yeah, I've talked about doing that before.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
But rocket lot's caught off today because unusual URF activity.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
How far is that from Dallas?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I could I could get I could get to your
house quicker than I could get there college.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Yeah, it's that's down in like Brownsville, isn't it, Frank.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
It's southern. You get in Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
It's probably twelve hours. It's probably twelve hours south of me. Yeah,
ten to twelve, ten to twelve hours. I can get
to Kyle's house in about six hours, seven hours, six
seven hours, No, no, I'm sorry, nine hours, nine hours
I can get Yeah, nine hours. I can get to
Saint Louis. It's twelve hours to Brownsville.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Uh Freddie max In He's like, that's an awesome idea.
I assume that's what he's talking about. Yeah, Freddie Max
a couple hours about four hours north of me.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
You know what we maybe should do is we should
nine hour drive okay, to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Brownsville to to star Base, oh to start Okay, Okay,
So maybe it's not quite all the way down there then,
but it's not down there. It's nine hours to port A,
Ransas and to uh End and the corpus. And I
thought it was further south than that, but I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
Know exactly where it is Andre Island south Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
So okay, so yeah, that's probably nine to ten hours.
Then that's not quite as far as south as.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
Brown it's probably a level with Jason's driving.

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
Yeah, yeah, but maybe one year after Hamcassion we should
go over to uh uh Cape canaveral right at your launch?

Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
Did you see the launch last year?

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, that's a great idea.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
I saw it from the field. There was a rocket
launch during the yes vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, we saw it. Yeah, we were all watching it. Yes,
uh huh.

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
I was just sitting down in the trading area. There
was oh, how what did that happen? My videos all
screwed up?

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
That's your OBSM. So all right, so first aid kits
and stop bleed kids and now rocket launches. So that's all.
That's all kind of in the same.

Speaker 8 (01:05:14):
Thing, right, don't forget the hammer drill and the averag drill.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
Solve in the world's problems, that's right, and some glitter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Oh yeah, hell yeah, that's great. Okay, Well all right,
well we got to get together with I don't want
to talk about this right now, but uh the ham
Caation guys did email me and they want to come
onto the stream, and uh so we're gonna get them
on probably in January.

Speaker 8 (01:05:38):
And but there are only three months out from ham.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Cation, the four of us plus a couple others and
who are who want to camp at hamp Cation. We
need to get onto it. We need to plan a
live stream and come back on here and talk about
camping ham Cation plans for this. Uh this this upcoming February.
So we will make that happen probably sometime in mid January,
so you guys be prepared for that. And that's gonna

(01:06:05):
be that's gonna be fun. I enjoyed the heck out
of that trip last year. I really really did it.
It was it was a fun drive to get there,
it was a fun camping experience and not having to
go to a crummy hotel at night when the Hamfest
is over. And I really, I really enjoyed it, probably

(01:06:25):
more than Dayton because everyone could camp there. You know,
Dayton's such limited camping space, and I love my camping
spot at Dayton. I'm glad I can provide that for everybody,
but as a hangout spot anyway during the day. But
it was a lot more fun to have more people
camped kind of all in the same area at Hampcashon.
I just really really enjoyed. And you know, it's it's

(01:06:46):
forty degrees in Texas during that time of year. It's
seventy degrees in Florida then, so that's nice too. I'm
ready to get the heck out of the cold by
the time February gets here. So so I'm looking forward
to that again this year because I had I had
a lot of fun with that last year.

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
Yeah, you're gonna have to bring your Blackstone. I'm gonna
bring mine, and maybe we can we can cook all
of the meals at the campsite and just stay there
the whole weekend. We don't even have to freaking leave.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
That's rotate chefs, though.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
That's almost what we did. Yeah, that's almost what we
did last year. That's almost what we did last year
because I had my Blackstone there last year. But yeah, absolutely,
I'm I'm totally down with that. That's just that's just great.
So yep. But yeah, Bill's in the chat. He was
there with us last year too, so and those and
uh it was uh, Tim, Bill, Frank and Rob with

(01:07:41):
me and the five of us were in a camper
I had rented. Those guys all all paid me for
their share, and I reached out to them about a
week or so ago and I said, who's in. You
guys get first right of refusal, and all four of
them they're like, yep, I'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
So we're gonna have the same group. I'm gonna try
to find a camper that actually has more than five beds.
I try to find one. It's kind of hard to
find one that has more than five individual beds, so
at least someone that somebody wants to rent it to you.
But anyway, so yeah, well we're gonna do another live

(01:08:17):
stream about that upcoming. And I know that Brandon from BattleBox,
he's he wants to come hang out with this over there.
I don't think he's gonna camp there. I'm trying to
get hangs Strange to come back. He was there, he
wasn't there last year, he was there two years ago.
So and trying to get some some other dudes out
there as well. So KB five you two y Dave,

(01:08:38):
he's recently become an r V er thinking about going
full time, and he's in the chat now. He said,
I'm gonna bring my big blackstone as well. So Dave
is the other person, Jason that I was trying to.
I was like, there's somebody else who told me they
we're going to camp this ship. That's who it was.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Just had owned the live stream talking about mestastic. I
bet he'll be there with his computer in a line
of people behind him fly can you flesh? And this
and this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Ye ye this, that's good. Okay, all right, let's call
it quitz. Thank you for joining us tonight that this
was a fun stream. Appreciate everyone's time, Kyle Jason especially,
thank you guys for taking the time out today. I know, Jason,
I know your schedule is really up in the air. Kyle,

(01:09:25):
what are you doing? You're doing some q SO party
next weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:09:28):
Yeah, sweepstakes a RRL sweepstakes Saturday three pm Central to six,
well three pm Central on Sunday if you do twenty
four hours, but you can do thirty six hours. So
this is the contest with the really long exchange. You've
got your section, your check, the year or the year

(01:09:53):
that you were licensed, your call sign, and precedents, so
it's a huge exchange. There's no signal report, but you
might want to if you're want to get into contesting.
This is probably not probably not the one you want,

(01:10:15):
not the way you want to to, you know, dip
your toe in. But if you do decide to dip
your toe listen for a while and get the cadence
correct on what they're they're talking about, and then go
into the rules and figure out you know what your
exchange should be, and.

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
Then you know for your particular station.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
What's the what's the goal is just work as many
stations as you can or correct.

Speaker 8 (01:10:37):
Okay, yep, Kyle, explain something to me. Yeah, you say
you don't do a signal report. Every contest I've ever
heard on the ear gives a five. Nine is a
signal report, regardless they asked for six times for your
calls on and the until you're a five to nine
right right, Well, why do we exchange?

Speaker 7 (01:10:56):
I'll give you in fifteen seconds. This signal report is
there in most contests. The only two contests you really
don't exchange the signal report is NAQP and sweepstakes and
a couple of other minor field day field Day, yeah, yeah,
field Day. That's a good another good one. But anyway,
whenever you say the five nine, that is like your

(01:11:17):
cue to say the next thing that is going to
be said over the air is the exchange. So it's
that that Q And whenever you don't have it, sometimes
it's a little crazy because you say the call and
then you know the next thing is the exchange. Well,
if you're looking for it then and you're an experienced contest,
you know that you're not supposed to say the uh

(01:11:41):
the signal report. You can you're already in that mode.
But typically for other contests, you say the signal report
to say, hey, here comes the exchange. The next thing
I'm gonna say so, but it is I I hear you, Jason,
I hear you loud and clear. Whenever you're trying to
get through the ride, and everyone is five nine. But

(01:12:02):
see that's just the I don't have a reason, that's
just the way that you know. It was done before
I was born, so right, right right, I don't know
what to tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
The trigger word I listened to and when i'm when
I hear are like okay, I'm ready to go is
when the station says please copy.

Speaker 8 (01:12:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
Well even the most experienced contesters still get into that rut.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, guys. Well, once again,
thank you for your time tonight. Appreciate everyone being here.
I'll put the links we talked about for everything today.
I'll put it in the description of the video here
in just a minute, and I just shared them in
the chat once more. And we will see you guys
sometime this week. So everyone have fun and stay warm

(01:12:48):
and seventy three doll bye. Here's the here's the close
out that we're gonna do this again.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
That's too high, They're crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Well, I tuned into the chadder on a fridayday night,
open for some wisdom, for a signal soul, right, but
a drumbling, a little frequency jam. Every channel's crowded with
sad hamp Oh sad hemp crying on the band, complaining

(01:13:40):
about the prices. Things ain't going ass playing Sadam always
in a jam, turned the down and there you are
just a sad hand. These new rigs are pricing just
a corporate game. Back in my diad, it wasn't all

(01:14:02):
the same. And those YouTube courts they've all sold out.
The sad Ham chorus. Hear them scream and shout, Oh
sad pamp crying on bath, complaining about the prices. Things
ain't going ass pads, Saddam always in a jam, turns

(01:14:27):
down and there you are just a sad hand. CB
ain't real radio, they say with a sneer, get a license,
Sun before you come near. But the air waves crackling
with a bitter tone. Sad Hams grumble on it. There micra,

(01:14:50):
they say. Back in the day, it was also for
bring ruin by gadgets. You don't understand. But while the
world moves on leaven sad ALM's humble song, Oh sad

(01:15:11):
Damn crying, complaining about the crisis, things ain't good boy,
and asked what I said