July 31, 2025 • 26 mins
God doesn’t see time the way we do. While we live according to hours, deadlines, and a focus fixed on the future (chronos), God operates in kairos—sacred moments filled with purpose and a pursuit of being fully present. We can sanctify chronological time by living with eternity in mind—sensing God’s presence in every moment.
In this episode, David Hanegraaff explores the importance of a proper theology of time—Kairos—as opposed to a human understanding of time—Chronos. Learning to trust God’s timing can reshape our daily lives, reorient our expectations, and draw us deeper into communion with Him.
Let us learn to pray the following prayer: “Lord, stamp eternity on our eyes so we live every moment with Your will and purpose in mind. Help us to live not in the fantasy of past and future, but the reality of Your presence right here, right now. Amen.”
This is the second talk given by David Hanegraaff for the Set Apart retreat for young adults at Gospel for Asia in Wills Point, Texas. Interested in serving with Gospel for Asia? Contact young@equip.org, and the CRI team will connect you with GFA.
In this episode, David Hanegraaff explores the importance of a proper theology of time—Kairos—as opposed to a human understanding of time—Chronos. Learning to trust God’s timing can reshape our daily lives, reorient our expectations, and draw us deeper into communion with Him.
Let us learn to pray the following prayer: “Lord, stamp eternity on our eyes so we live every moment with Your will and purpose in mind. Help us to live not in the fantasy of past and future, but the reality of Your presence right here, right now. Amen.”
This is the second talk given by David Hanegraaff for the Set Apart retreat for young adults at Gospel for Asia in Wills Point, Texas. Interested in serving with Gospel for Asia? Contact young@equip.org, and the CRI team will connect you with GFA.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I want to begin with the prayer, just like I
said yesterday, So the name of the Father, the Son,
the Holy Spirit, Glory to you God, and all things amen.
The first thing that I'd like to share with you
this morning is the last thing that I heard before
coming up here, which was words of encouragement. During the
(00:46):
morning service, somebody on staff here gave me a card
and said, I wanted to give this to you yesterday,
but I.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Didn't see you, so I walked out and opened it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It was full of affirmation and encouragement about yesterday, and
so many of you came up to me a different
points throughout the day and encouraged me. When I'm here
to try and encourage you, and I just want to
thank you from the bottom of my heart. It means
a lot, and I want to remind you all that
(01:19):
affirmation is one of the greatest tools that we have
in our spiritual tool belt to encourage one another, and
it takes nothing. It's one of the easiest things that
we can do, and so often we leave it unsaid.
Oh that person already knows that, say it again, maybe
they need to hear it again. And so that just
(01:39):
those words of encouragement mean the world, and they go
so much further than you think they do. So I
want to encourage you to encourage others. And on that note,
I'd like everybody on staff at GFA to stand up, please,
just so I know who's actual staff now, everybody who's
(02:00):
here for set apart, give them a hand of applause.
Because it's such a wonderful thing that you're doing here,
and it's making a difference in all of these people's lives.
It's making a difference in your lives. So thank you
all very much. I wanted to also thank you because
I'm leaving today. My time here is much shorter than
the participants in obviously the staff, and because of that,
(02:26):
I think that I've handled my time maybe a little
bit differently than some of you.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I've savored every moment.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's such a beautiful place here, and I've heard people say, oh,
you can really sense the Lord's presence here, and that's true,
but the Lord's presence is everywhere. What you're sensing is
the Lord's presence in the people, and so that's something
(02:56):
that you can remember that no matter where you are,
bring the Lord's presence with you, and it transforms the
space because you become the manifestation of Christ in the world.
You're His hands and feet. And so as I've walked
around here, I knew that I wanted to talk about
(03:17):
time today, about God's time versus our time, but I
really didn't know entirely what I was going to speak about.
And so last night and this morning I started to
think about my son in his experience with time just yesterday.
(03:37):
So yesterday it was a seminal moment in young Grace
Davidson's life. He lost his first tooth and was paid
handsomely for it by the tooth Fairy. Because it was
his first tooth and he's pretty bright five year old,
(03:58):
I think he sensed like, oh, this is a transition
in my life and he really want well one. He
didn't want to lose his tooth because he thought it
was going to hurt, and then when it came out,
he just wanted to put it back in.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He wanted to put it back in. I don't want
to lose my tooth. And then he got over it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But then last night, before going to bed, I think
he was feeling it and I just want to be
four again. I want my tooth back. He's five.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Think about how often we look.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I just want to go back because as a result
of the fall, we live in a chronological time sequence.
That's not how we were created to live. So there's
two views of time, chronological chronos and chirological chiros.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll get to that later.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But he was experiencing that chronological time I want to
go back. I'm scared to move forward, and at the
same time he was experiencing chiros time. So another way
to look at chronological and chirological is chronological time is
(05:16):
the time that we count, and chirological time is the
time that counts. There's a slight distinction with a big
difference because we can become slaves to time, and it
can you know, even as I'm thinking about the kind
of contradiction of oh, I'm making all my time count,
(05:36):
but in doing so, I'm constantly oh, you know, I
only have two hours left, and you know, I got
to really make this count. But one of the moments
when I really was in it was experiencing that chiros time,
God's time where you lose track of time. Was another
first for Grace. This was his first time fishing, and
(06:02):
for those of you who are parents. Seeing your kids
find something that they love brings you so much joy.
And he's just out there, line after line, and I say, oh,
one more, and then after one more, he says one
more because he's so in what he's doing, he's so
(06:22):
loving it, And so then I'm not a fisherman. I
actually came to enjoy it yesterday because I was doing
it with him, And in those moments, I experienced God's
time where I completely lost track of the worries of
the world and I was completely present. And that's the
greatest distinction is chronological time. The time that we experience
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as a result of the fall is those seconds, minutes, hours, years.
But that's not how we are created to live. We're
created without thinking about the past, without thinking about the future,
to be completely present, because that's where God is, because
(07:09):
the present is all we have. I'd like to read
something to you. It's from Scripture and changed my life.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Jesus said.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
A man prepared a great banquet and invited many guests.
When the feast was ready, he sent his servant to
tell them, come, everything is now ready, But they all
began to make excuses. We make so many excuses. So
(07:52):
I'll read that again. Come, everything is now ready. But
they all began to make excuses. One said, I've bought
a field, I must go see it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
An excuse.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Another, I've bought oxen. I'm going to try them out.
Another excuse. Another said, and this one resonates for me.
I just got married. I can't come. Blame it on
the wife, but an excuse. Nonetheless, the servant returned and
(08:35):
reported this. The Master of the house became angry and said,
go quickly into the streets and alleys of the town.
Bring in the poor, the crippled, the blind, and the lame.
The servant said, sir, what you ordered has been done,
and there's still room. Then the master told him go
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out to the roads and country life and compel them
to come in. Go out into the world so that
my house will be full. I tell you, none of
those who were invited first will taste my banquet. It's
convicting because we all make so many excuses, and we
(09:23):
waste so much time. Right before I came up here,
I was talking to Bishop Danny, and he talked about
Metropolitan Blessed Memory and how he was always concerned about time.
And boy, do I know that I mean he would
call me, and I joked with several of you already
(09:44):
he had a wonderful plan for my life, and his
hair was always on fire. We have to do this now,
And I would always think, we have more time, take
your time.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well, no.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Time waits for no one, and he didn't have more time,
and he knew that. And glory to God. One of
the lasting legacies is imprinted on your shirt. Lord, stamp
eternity on our eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I was thinking about that phrase, and I think a
lot of people will hear that phrase and imagine eternity
as something in the future, but that's not Cairo's time.
Eternity is today. It can be a sense of escapism
with the perspective on heaven and eternity as something that's
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going to happen later. Heaven is here and now. Heaven
is any time that you were present with Christ and
that you are present in his time, because he's outside
space and time. Yes, through the incarnation, he entered into
our chronological time, but that is the result of the fall,
and he came here to bring us into eternity, into
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his perspective of time, which is so much richer. So
I told I read to you the Parable of the
Banquet and told you that it changed my life.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And I'll tell you how.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I grew up the son of the Bible answer Man.
But am shamefully biblically illiterate, which is me being vulnerable
with you. And it's something that I've always felt pressure.
I think I've never thought about this intelligent right at
this moment, I'm fluent in Spanish, and I've met so
many Latinos who have grown up in America and feel
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this insecurity because they don't speak Spanish, and I hear
I do.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So it's.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's never too late to start, and don't put too
much pressure on yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So I really put a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Of you know, f and time into getting into the scriptures.
And I was reading the Parable the Banquet.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And not but an hour later I got a call
and it was from somebody at our church and they said, David,
we'd like you to run for parish council. I don't
know if you know what parish council is. I had
no idea. It's kind of like the board of the
church elders. And I said, okay, I don't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That, but what does it entail.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He said a little bit of time, and I said,
define a little.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He said, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not a little, but it's not too much, and so
I said, define too much and he kind of walked
me through it, and I thought, man, I don't have
time for that. But then I started to think, or
am I just making an excuse? Yep, I work full time.
(13:05):
My wife works full time. You've seen one of my crazies,
if you can believe it. His younger brother is crazier,
and both of them are a full time job. And
on top of that, my wife was diagnosed with cancer
two to three years ago, and so you really felt like, well,
(13:29):
I could pull the C card now, that'll get me
out of this. But I kept going back to the parable.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Of the banquet.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, yeah, okay, we've got two kids under five, both
work full time going through cancer treatment.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Our lives are busy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They're always going to be busy, and there will always
be an excuse if you look for it, but you
can never get more time. So in faith, I took
that leap of faith where there's no safer place, and
I ran for parish council, and glory to God was elected.
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And it has been the greatest blessing of my life.
What I thought would rob me of precious time has
given me precious talent. It has made me you know,
I talked yesterday about feeling like the least qualified person
in the room. It's helped me grow in confidence that
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I belong in that room. Anybody can belong in that
room if you step forward in faith, and all of
that talent that's become a treasure to me would have
been lost had I fallen prey to the easy way
of well, I'll do that later. I'll run for parish
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council later because I have more time. I'll make the
excuse today. So I'd like to encourage you to we
all make excuses, and we all think we have more time,
try not to do that. Say yes, answer the Lord's call.
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You have no idea how much he will bless you.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I already talked a little bit about Kronos versus Cairos,
but I'd like to reemphasize it because I think it's
really important, and I wanted to talk to you about time.
So Chronos is this which, ironically, right before I walked
up here, I wanted to take off my fifteen to
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twenty dollars Cassio watch and place it up here because
yesterday when I was speaking, I had no idea how
much time had elapsed. And then I thought, well, that
would be ironic to come up here and talk to
you about being present and being in the moment and
stare at the seconds and watch them.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Go by so slowly.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
By the way, you can get one of these on Amazon,
and I'm not joking. You know, it's one of the oldest,
most famous watches. And I thought, do I really need
to watch? I have my phone. This saves me. I
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still look at my phone way too much. We all do,
and I'll get to that later, but this saves me
from a little bit more screen time every day. So
it's fifteen to twenty dollars that you can spend for
a cheap watch that makes you look like you're in
the eighties. Some of you don't even know the probably
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none of you know the eighties except for staff glorious time.
I would incur whar'd you to invest in that?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Kiros, Like I said, is when you're in the zone.
So I think some of you young people, you call
it flow state. Do you know about this? When you're
just kind of in it. That's God's time when you
lose complete track of time, and that is also on
your shirt. I love those shirts that you guys have,
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the set apart shirts with all the quotes and most
importantly the wardrobe. I know that that was so important
to the Metropolitan of Blessed Memory's we're wretched flatlanders. We
live in this kind of world of latent materialism. Even
if we're Christians, we subscribe to that everything is just
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matter and motion and you know, scientifically provable. We don't
say that we believe in miracles and enchantment and then
live as though we don't. And if you're at all
familiar with the Chronicles of Narnia where that wardrobe comes from.
When the children enter into the wardrobe, they enter into eternity,
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into God's presence, and when they come out of it,
no time has passed. And I don't think that's mistake.
It's because chronological versus chirological. We live in a fallen
state where seconds, minutes, hours, God's time is outside of that.
And I think it's interesting because most of us would
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say that the Chronicles of Narnia is fantasy, but the
early Church fathers.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Refer to.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Thinking about the future or the past too much as fantasy,
because the only reality is this moment. They even go
so far. The Church fathers can be heavy sometimes as
to say that it's spiritually dangerous to live anywhere but
the present moment. Now, you have to cash that out
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a little bit. It's not saying that you don't plan
for the future, prepare for the future, and that you
don't remember the past or.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A healthy nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Now I see pictures of my children come up on
our little Google home, and man, I miss those moments
and it is a constant reminder to be present because
they slipped through your fingers like sand. And it's just
every moment is precious. Another phrase that just comes to mind.
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I wasn't planning to say it, but my grandfather was
dying of fibrosis of the lung and my dad asked him, ye, Dad,
don't you just want to go home and be with
the Lord? And his response was, Hank, every moment is precious,
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and he savored every moment.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Before he died.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
He called every one of his grandchildren and children and
encouraged them. He prayed with us and told us to
never leave the Lord because the Lord will never leave us.
And I was a very young child and I will
never forget that, and I thank God that the Lord
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kept him because every moment is precious. So I'd encourage
you stay in the moment, go into the wardrobe, because
so much of the world that we live in that
is the fantasy. Now, I want to ask you a question,
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what if this was your final year on earth?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
How would you live? What would change?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Because we all think, well, I'll do that tomorrow or
next week. I'll learn that thing next year when I
have more time. That is not promised. So I want
to encourage all of you, whether you're young or old,
those of us who are a little older or more
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cognizant of the passing of time, and you start doing
math and go well by world averages. I'm halfway there
at least if I'm lucky, I might sign up for
that some days.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But think about that, and I'll remind you at the end,
what would you do if this was your.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Final year on earth? What would you do differently? We
waste so much time. Now on that same note, think
about it subject of banquets and tables. Think about a
time when you were sitting with people that you love,
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whether it's friends or family, and you got to the
end of the evening and I can't believe it's eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Time just flew by. Why did that happen?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Was it because you were looking down at your phone?
Or was it because you were completely present with the
people who were in your presence? We especially, and I'm
not going to come down on you guys too hard,
because if you saw my screen time, it is shameful.
We are all slaves to our technology and just looking
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down all the time when we really need to be
focused on what's right before you, ask you three questions,
and I'm going to give you a little bit of
time to think about these, because these are important questions.
What is the most important moment in your life? What
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is the most important moment in your life? Who is
the most important person in your life? Who is the
most important person in your life? And the third question
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is what is the most important thing you have done?
What's the most important thing you've done? Think about those
questions for a couple of seconds. I won't make you
do it for minutes. I have answers. I told you
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that I wasn't here's the answer, man, But I do
have answers to those questions. So, what is the most
important moment in your life.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Who is the most important person in your life? The
person right beside you, the person in front of you,
the people in this room that you're surrounded by, are
the most important people in your life. And what is
the most important thing you've done? What you're doing right now.
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That seems like a little bit of a gotcha question,
but the focal point is to be present. It's the
only place that you can be. So what you are
doing is the most important moment, and who you're with
is the most important person. And what you're doing is
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the most important thing from moment to moment in your life.
So I'll end where I begin with the words that
were so important, the Metropolitan of blessed memory, the name
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of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Let us pray,
Lord to stamp eternity on our eyes, so we live
every moment with your will and purpose in mind. Help
us to live not in the fantasy of the past
(25:47):
and the future, but in the reality of your presence
right here, right now.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
The name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Thank you, guys for your timely appreciate it
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I want to begin with the prayer, just like I
said yesterday, So the name of the Father, the Son,
the Holy Spirit, Glory to you God, and all things amen.
The first thing that I'd like to share with you
this morning is the last thing that I heard before
coming up here, which was words of encouragement. During the
(00:46):
morning service, somebody on staff here gave me a card
and said, I wanted to give this to you yesterday,
but I.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Didn't see you, so I walked out and opened it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It was full of affirmation and encouragement about yesterday, and
so many of you came up to me a different
points throughout the day and encouraged me. When I'm here
to try and encourage you, and I just want to
thank you from the bottom of my heart. It means
a lot, and I want to remind you all that
(01:19):
affirmation is one of the greatest tools that we have
in our spiritual tool belt to encourage one another, and
it takes nothing. It's one of the easiest things that
we can do, and so often we leave it unsaid.
Oh that person already knows that, say it again, maybe
they need to hear it again. And so that just
(01:39):
those words of encouragement mean the world, and they go
so much further than you think they do. So I
want to encourage you to encourage others. And on that note,
I'd like everybody on staff at GFA to stand up, please,
just so I know who's actual staff now, everybody who's
(02:00):
here for set apart, give them a hand of applause.
Because it's such a wonderful thing that you're doing here,
and it's making a difference in all of these people's lives.
It's making a difference in your lives. So thank you
all very much. I wanted to also thank you because
I'm leaving today. My time here is much shorter than
the participants in obviously the staff, and because of that,
(02:26):
I think that I've handled my time maybe a little
bit differently than some of you.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I've savored every moment.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's such a beautiful place here, and I've heard people say, oh,
you can really sense the Lord's presence here, and that's true,
but the Lord's presence is everywhere. What you're sensing is
the Lord's presence in the people, and so that's something
(02:56):
that you can remember that no matter where you are,
bring the Lord's presence with you, and it transforms the
space because you become the manifestation of Christ in the world.
You're His hands and feet. And so as I've walked
around here, I knew that I wanted to talk about
(03:17):
time today, about God's time versus our time, but I
really didn't know entirely what I was going to speak about.
And so last night and this morning I started to
think about my son in his experience with time just yesterday.
(03:37):
So yesterday it was a seminal moment in young Grace
Davidson's life. He lost his first tooth and was paid
handsomely for it by the tooth Fairy. Because it was
his first tooth and he's pretty bright five year old,
(03:58):
I think he sensed like, oh, this is a transition
in my life and he really want well one. He
didn't want to lose his tooth because he thought it
was going to hurt, and then when it came out,
he just wanted to put it back in.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He wanted to put it back in. I don't want
to lose my tooth. And then he got over it.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But then last night, before going to bed, I think
he was feeling it and I just want to be
four again. I want my tooth back. He's five.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Think about how often we look.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I just want to go back because as a result
of the fall, we live in a chronological time sequence.
That's not how we were created to live. So there's
two views of time, chronological chronos and chirological chiros.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll get to that later.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But he was experiencing that chronological time I want to
go back. I'm scared to move forward, and at the
same time he was experiencing chiros time. So another way
to look at chronological and chirological is chronological time is
(05:16):
the time that we count, and chirological time is the
time that counts. There's a slight distinction with a big
difference because we can become slaves to time, and it
can you know, even as I'm thinking about the kind
of contradiction of oh, I'm making all my time count,
(05:36):
but in doing so, I'm constantly oh, you know, I
only have two hours left, and you know, I got
to really make this count. But one of the moments
when I really was in it was experiencing that chiros time,
God's time where you lose track of time. Was another
first for Grace. This was his first time fishing, and
(06:02):
for those of you who are parents. Seeing your kids
find something that they love brings you so much joy.
And he's just out there, line after line, and I say, oh,
one more, and then after one more, he says one
more because he's so in what he's doing, he's so
(06:22):
loving it, And so then I'm not a fisherman. I
actually came to enjoy it yesterday because I was doing
it with him, And in those moments, I experienced God's
time where I completely lost track of the worries of
the world and I was completely present. And that's the
greatest distinction is chronological time. The time that we experience
(06:48):
as a result of the fall is those seconds, minutes, hours, years.
But that's not how we are created to live. We're
created without thinking about the past, without thinking about the future,
to be completely present, because that's where God is, because
(07:09):
the present is all we have. I'd like to read
something to you. It's from Scripture and changed my life.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Jesus said.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
A man prepared a great banquet and invited many guests.
When the feast was ready, he sent his servant to
tell them, come, everything is now ready, But they all
began to make excuses. We make so many excuses. So
(07:52):
I'll read that again. Come, everything is now ready. But
they all began to make excuses. One said, I've bought
a field, I must go see it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
An excuse.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Another, I've bought oxen. I'm going to try them out.
Another excuse. Another said, and this one resonates for me.
I just got married. I can't come. Blame it on
the wife, but an excuse. Nonetheless, the servant returned and
(08:35):
reported this. The Master of the house became angry and said,
go quickly into the streets and alleys of the town.
Bring in the poor, the crippled, the blind, and the lame.
The servant said, sir, what you ordered has been done,
and there's still room. Then the master told him go
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out to the roads and country life and compel them
to come in. Go out into the world so that
my house will be full. I tell you, none of
those who were invited first will taste my banquet. It's
convicting because we all make so many excuses, and we
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waste so much time. Right before I came up here,
I was talking to Bishop Danny, and he talked about
Metropolitan Blessed Memory and how he was always concerned about time.
And boy, do I know that I mean he would
call me, and I joked with several of you already
(09:44):
he had a wonderful plan for my life, and his
hair was always on fire. We have to do this now,
And I would always think, we have more time, take
your time.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well, no.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Time waits for no one, and he didn't have more time,
and he knew that. And glory to God. One of
the lasting legacies is imprinted on your shirt. Lord, stamp
eternity on our eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I was thinking about that phrase, and I think a
lot of people will hear that phrase and imagine eternity
as something in the future, but that's not Cairo's time.
Eternity is today. It can be a sense of escapism
with the perspective on heaven and eternity as something that's
(10:44):
going to happen later. Heaven is here and now. Heaven
is any time that you were present with Christ and
that you are present in his time, because he's outside
space and time. Yes, through the incarnation, he entered into
our chronological time, but that is the result of the fall,
and he came here to bring us into eternity, into
(11:07):
his perspective of time, which is so much richer. So
I told I read to you the Parable of the
Banquet and told you that it changed my life.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And I'll tell you how.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I grew up the son of the Bible answer Man.
But am shamefully biblically illiterate, which is me being vulnerable
with you. And it's something that I've always felt pressure.
I think I've never thought about this intelligent right at
this moment, I'm fluent in Spanish, and I've met so
many Latinos who have grown up in America and feel
(11:45):
this insecurity because they don't speak Spanish, and I hear
I do.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So it's.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's never too late to start, and don't put too
much pressure on yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So I really put a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Of you know, f and time into getting into the scriptures.
And I was reading the Parable the Banquet.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And not but an hour later I got a call
and it was from somebody at our church and they said, David,
we'd like you to run for parish council. I don't
know if you know what parish council is. I had
no idea. It's kind of like the board of the
church elders. And I said, okay, I don't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That, but what does it entail.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He said a little bit of time, and I said,
define a little.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He said, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not a little, but it's not too much, and so
I said, define too much and he kind of walked
me through it, and I thought, man, I don't have
time for that. But then I started to think, or
am I just making an excuse? Yep, I work full time.
(13:05):
My wife works full time. You've seen one of my crazies,
if you can believe it. His younger brother is crazier,
and both of them are a full time job. And
on top of that, my wife was diagnosed with cancer
two to three years ago, and so you really felt like, well,
(13:29):
I could pull the C card now, that'll get me
out of this. But I kept going back to the parable.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Of the banquet.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, yeah, okay, we've got two kids under five, both
work full time going through cancer treatment.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Our lives are busy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They're always going to be busy, and there will always
be an excuse if you look for it, but you
can never get more time. So in faith, I took
that leap of faith where there's no safer place, and
I ran for parish council, and glory to God was elected.
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And it has been the greatest blessing of my life.
What I thought would rob me of precious time has
given me precious talent. It has made me you know,
I talked yesterday about feeling like the least qualified person
in the room. It's helped me grow in confidence that
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I belong in that room. Anybody can belong in that
room if you step forward in faith, and all of
that talent that's become a treasure to me would have
been lost had I fallen prey to the easy way
of well, I'll do that later. I'll run for parish
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council later because I have more time. I'll make the
excuse today. So I'd like to encourage you to we
all make excuses, and we all think we have more time,
try not to do that. Say yes, answer the Lord's call.
(15:16):
You have no idea how much he will bless you.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I already talked a little bit about Kronos versus Cairos,
but I'd like to reemphasize it because I think it's
really important, and I wanted to talk to you about time.
So Chronos is this which, ironically, right before I walked
up here, I wanted to take off my fifteen to
(15:46):
twenty dollars Cassio watch and place it up here because
yesterday when I was speaking, I had no idea how
much time had elapsed. And then I thought, well, that
would be ironic to come up here and talk to
you about being present and being in the moment and
stare at the seconds and watch them.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Go by so slowly.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
By the way, you can get one of these on Amazon,
and I'm not joking. You know, it's one of the oldest,
most famous watches. And I thought, do I really need
to watch? I have my phone. This saves me. I
(16:31):
still look at my phone way too much. We all do,
and I'll get to that later, but this saves me
from a little bit more screen time every day. So
it's fifteen to twenty dollars that you can spend for
a cheap watch that makes you look like you're in
the eighties. Some of you don't even know the probably
(16:53):
none of you know the eighties except for staff glorious time.
I would incur whar'd you to invest in that?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Kiros, Like I said, is when you're in the zone.
So I think some of you young people, you call
it flow state. Do you know about this? When you're
just kind of in it. That's God's time when you
lose complete track of time, and that is also on
your shirt. I love those shirts that you guys have,
(17:26):
the set apart shirts with all the quotes and most
importantly the wardrobe. I know that that was so important
to the Metropolitan of Blessed Memory's we're wretched flatlanders. We
live in this kind of world of latent materialism. Even
if we're Christians, we subscribe to that everything is just
(17:47):
matter and motion and you know, scientifically provable. We don't
say that we believe in miracles and enchantment and then
live as though we don't. And if you're at all
familiar with the Chronicles of Narnia where that wardrobe comes from.
When the children enter into the wardrobe, they enter into eternity,
(18:09):
into God's presence, and when they come out of it,
no time has passed. And I don't think that's mistake.
It's because chronological versus chirological. We live in a fallen
state where seconds, minutes, hours, God's time is outside of that.
And I think it's interesting because most of us would
(18:34):
say that the Chronicles of Narnia is fantasy, but the
early Church fathers.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Refer to.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Thinking about the future or the past too much as fantasy,
because the only reality is this moment. They even go
so far. The Church fathers can be heavy sometimes as
to say that it's spiritually dangerous to live anywhere but
the present moment. Now, you have to cash that out
(19:07):
a little bit. It's not saying that you don't plan
for the future, prepare for the future, and that you
don't remember the past or.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A healthy nostalgia.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Now I see pictures of my children come up on
our little Google home, and man, I miss those moments
and it is a constant reminder to be present because
they slipped through your fingers like sand. And it's just
every moment is precious. Another phrase that just comes to mind.
(19:45):
I wasn't planning to say it, but my grandfather was
dying of fibrosis of the lung and my dad asked him, ye, Dad,
don't you just want to go home and be with
the Lord? And his response was, Hank, every moment is precious,
(20:11):
and he savored every moment.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Before he died.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
He called every one of his grandchildren and children and
encouraged them. He prayed with us and told us to
never leave the Lord because the Lord will never leave us.
And I was a very young child and I will
never forget that, and I thank God that the Lord
(20:34):
kept him because every moment is precious. So I'd encourage
you stay in the moment, go into the wardrobe, because
so much of the world that we live in that
is the fantasy. Now, I want to ask you a question,
(20:58):
what if this was your final year on earth?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
How would you live? What would change?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Because we all think, well, I'll do that tomorrow or
next week. I'll learn that thing next year when I
have more time. That is not promised. So I want
to encourage all of you, whether you're young or old,
those of us who are a little older or more
(21:31):
cognizant of the passing of time, and you start doing
math and go well by world averages. I'm halfway there
at least if I'm lucky, I might sign up for
that some days.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But think about that, and I'll remind you at the end,
what would you do if this was your.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Final year on earth? What would you do differently? We
waste so much time. Now on that same note, think
about it subject of banquets and tables. Think about a
time when you were sitting with people that you love,
(22:12):
whether it's friends or family, and you got to the
end of the evening and I can't believe it's eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Time just flew by. Why did that happen?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Was it because you were looking down at your phone?
Or was it because you were completely present with the
people who were in your presence? We especially, and I'm
not going to come down on you guys too hard,
because if you saw my screen time, it is shameful.
We are all slaves to our technology and just looking
(22:49):
down all the time when we really need to be
focused on what's right before you, ask you three questions,
and I'm going to give you a little bit of
time to think about these, because these are important questions.
What is the most important moment in your life? What
(23:18):
is the most important moment in your life? Who is
the most important person in your life? Who is the
most important person in your life? And the third question
(23:40):
is what is the most important thing you have done?
What's the most important thing you've done? Think about those
questions for a couple of seconds. I won't make you
do it for minutes. I have answers. I told you
(24:05):
that I wasn't here's the answer, man, But I do
have answers to those questions. So, what is the most
important moment in your life.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Who is the most important person in your life? The
person right beside you, the person in front of you,
the people in this room that you're surrounded by, are
the most important people in your life. And what is
the most important thing you've done? What you're doing right now.
(24:38):
That seems like a little bit of a gotcha question,
but the focal point is to be present. It's the
only place that you can be. So what you are
doing is the most important moment, and who you're with
is the most important person. And what you're doing is
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the most important thing from moment to moment in your life.
So I'll end where I begin with the words that
were so important, the Metropolitan of blessed memory, the name
(25:26):
of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Let us pray,
Lord to stamp eternity on our eyes, so we live
every moment with your will and purpose in mind. Help
us to live not in the fantasy of the past
(25:47):
and the future, but in the reality of your presence
right here, right now.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
The name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Thank you, guys for your timely appreciate it
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