The Batman Vs Dracula (2005)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
He moves through the shadows he watches during the night,
and this winter he is out for blood. Batman returns
to face his most fearsome enemy yet in The Batman
Versus Dracula and all new full length animated feature of Breaking.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
At the Back.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's a blood backlogan with enough special features to keep
you entertained for eternity. Tro Magnificent, the Dark Night finally
meets the prints of Darkness. Look for the all new
full length animated feature The Batman Versus Dracula on DVD.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
The Sunrise will not help.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
You this time, show people, and welcome to our three
hundred and twelfth episode of Happiness and Darkness and Superior
Movie Podcast, where we discuss severe movies, Marvel, DC, Dark Horse,
Image and Beyond. Naturally, there will be spoilers, folks, so
you have it warned.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
I want to go co host.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
There's Always joining as my superhero partner in crime and
ready to begin spooky season with me, mister Keith Bliss, Hey, Keith,
how are you today?

Speaker 6 (01:09):
I can't complain it's finally starting to call off here
in North Carolina. I think it's only like ninety today.
Tomorrow will be like sixty four, so we're hitting the
cold season just in time for all the spooky movies.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
So it's nice. I can't complain too much.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Very happy to hear that. Over here in Italy it's
actually unseasonably.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Cold for October.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
But like you said, I'd rather have this than the
blazing summer that we had a couple of months ago.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
So it's great. And yes, today we.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Are going to of course be starting our spooky season
films as Corse, who doesn't love Halloween? And of course
when starting us off will be The Batman versus Dracula
from two thousand and five. This was directed by Michael Gogwin.
It was written by Dwayne Capizzi, while the score was
by Thomas Chase Jones. Now, this film was not released

(01:55):
to the theaters. It was a literally direct to videos,
so we already have the budget or anything for a right, but.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
As and I think it's very it's great.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
We're talking about this one on its twentieth anniversary. It's
greatest the rang in twenty years since the movie came out. So, Keith,
speaking the direct to video, I believe you own this one,
So what did you make of it on your rewatch?

Speaker 6 (02:16):
Oh, I've owned this movie. I enjoy this iteration of
Batman almost as much as the animated series. I think
it's one of those things they did an interesting take.
And don't get me wrong, not every update or tweaked
to Batman lands quite as well. What I liked about
this one is they updated all of the characters, so

(02:38):
you see other characters in this movie the Joker, excuse me, Joker, Penguin,
and obviously Dracula. And what got me is how many
people disliked this iteration of the Joker, just how like
goofy looking he looked. And to me, I thought it
was great because of all the updates they had done
with this character. So when this movie came out, I

(03:00):
jumped all over it. I've owned it. I literally have
it sitting on my rack right now. I watch it
from time to time just because and it's just fun.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's a Batman cartoon.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
You can't really expect a lot out of it.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I totally agree with you.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
In fact, as once this movie ended, I was so
tempted to literally sit down and watch the Batman series because,
just like you, I thoroughly enjoyed, you know, coming off
of such an iconic series like Batman the animated series,
like how you're going to top that? And I'm not
saying this necessarily topped it, but I agree, I think
it's up there with the animated series. I think was
for that generation of kids who you know, maybe missed

(03:38):
out on the animated series and they got this, And
I thoroughly enjoyed it because I think it caters to
both us older folks and you know, the youngsters too,
and is a great way to revamp, like you said,
certain characters. And when it came to this full length movie,
it may, you know, feel a little bit like an
extended The Batman episode, but regardless of that, I did

(03:58):
enjoy what they did. And also being a big fan,
like I'm sure a lot of our listeners of Dracula
as in the original Bram Stoker novel and everything that spawned,
I appreciate the homages that were made to that particular
story when it came to how our characters behaved and
did things in this. And you know that we know

(04:18):
that the Batman series is great for the voice talents
that it employs, and some guests are just crazy and
very much you know, for folks who loved previous iterations
of Batman. Absolutely, I love that that aspect of this
and even here, I think we have a very strong
voice cast, some of them, of course, reprising their roles
from the series, others making you know, their debut here.

(04:42):
So you know, it's an hour and twenty minutes and
it just flew by. I love the story, I love
the characters. It does get creepy in parts, which I
thought was fantastic. You know, it doesn't seem too sanitized.
Of course, it's not going to be r rated, but
at the same time, it wasn't like, oh, you know,
we're going to make it this kind of a little
bit silly. But I enjoyed my time with it. Now
definitely will revisit it, so I think it still holds

(05:02):
up twenty years later. So let's kick off with our
charactors on the boards, starting, of course, with our titular
character we have, of course, you know Roman Or as
Bruce Wayne Batman. He voices the character in the series.
So what did you make of what Batman slash Bruce
got to do in this one, Keith, I like.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
This Batman the way he voices the character. He does
it in a way that reminds me of the old
Batman eighty nine in terms of how he has that
upbeat voice when he's Bruce Wayne, and then when he's
Batman he gets a little more dark and brooding. And
I don't know if anybody has caught this, but as

(05:43):
it's been mentioned, you know, more recently, in a lot
of the comic books, Batman says he's Batman and Bruce
Wayne is his quote unquote mask or his disguise. And
he even does that in this one at the very end,
because he's like, I'm Batman. And the reason why he
makes that comment is because Dracula's like, you're Bruce Wayne.
He's like, no, no, I'm Batman. And he even you know,

(06:05):
lives that life where he is Batman and he happens
to also be playing Bruce Wayne as his alter ego.
I like the fact that they introduced Vicky Vale and
some of the other characters that we were familiar with
because of again the previous Batman eighty nine and all
their interactions with him and VICKI, him and Alfred and
just everybody in general seemed very natural. And you know me,

(06:29):
I tend to get a stickler for those types of
things where you hear people reading lines and it's very stiff.
This seems genuine like they were all in the room
together filming this or recording this rather and they're just
reading the parts and they're having a good time. You
can tell by the energy in their interactions that they
were enjoying themselves doing this. And we know Peter doing Dracula,

(06:51):
he enjoys everything he does because he's Peter. So I
liked the casting and the story. The pace, like you said,
was great. They didn't really kind of reinvent the wheel
too much. We've seen Batman have his little psyche crisis
from time to time. It's popped up in other iterations
of the cartoon and even in the movies, so it's

(07:12):
not like they were really introducing anything crazy, over the
top new other than him fighting Dracula, which is kind
of a different take on things.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
I definitely think so.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And you know, you brought up the fact that that
Reno does a good job when it comes to weighing
doing different versions of his voice when it comes playing
Bruce So and then when it comes to playing Batman.
I do have a bit a question to ask, which
I think might break the internet depending on your answer.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
A lot of folks.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Of course, when they think of the voice of Batman,
they think, of course, of the late great Kevin Conroy.
Now would you say that Reno is up there with
Kevin or you more of a more of a fan
of his than you have Reno's.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
I've always been a diehard Conroy fan. I have about
four hundred and sventy two fun copops of just the
animated series. I am very much an made series die hard.
Like you had mentioned this being the Batman for the
younger generation, I think he does a very good job
of this. They both play their parts very well. Just

(08:12):
like to go off topic for a second, like the
guy who does Terry McGinnis and Batman Beyond, he does
a perfect Batman Beyond. So for when these have come
out and been released, they are the perfect generations in
my mind to their characters. But again, Kevin's always going
to hold the place in my heart. He's Oh, Reno
just comes in a close second.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
I'm right there with you, because that's who I grew
up with too, was Kevin playing Batman. And I think
Erino does a good job in to a certain extent,
maybe homaging the way that Kevin would voice Batman. But
making it different enough. I think he maybe maybe studied
under Kevin when it came to just how he would
do the character. But I think it's different enough to
where you can say, there's Erno Romano's Batman and there's

(08:58):
Kevin Conroy's Batman, And that was something that I knew.
If I wasn't convinced by the voice, I would not
I would have checked out the show. And I think
they cast the right guy to play our our Cape Crusader.
And here, yeah, like you said, they didn't really invent
the try to reinvent the wheel. It is a Batman
adventure and he happens to be against another Batman, I

(09:21):
being Dracula. So yeah, it's it's he just goes on
this kind of kooky, quol crazy adventure. But at the
same time, I think they try to bring forth the
many themes that are also kind of interspersed within the series,
as in, like you said, Bruce feels that Batman is
who he truly is, and Bruce's brain is the facade,
so he doesn't have time to develop that side of him,

(09:44):
i e. Having a girlfriend or maybe you know, finding
time to hang out with other friends. I mean, we
see this in the series that he has, he has
a best mate that he doesn't really get to hang
out with as much because the call of the Batman
is what is his mission statement and his is his
life's work, and here it very much.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
It plays a big part.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
In the possible potential relationship with him and Vickie, you know,
even to Alfred's behest and they're trying to to play matchmaker.
They're trying to, you know, try and take some time
and spend more time as Bruce Wayne unless it as Batman,
because I think one could use the right phrase of
life is too short and you really should try and
settle not settle down this sorry, but find surround yourself

(10:23):
with people that you love and care about. Because there's
no Robin in this one. It's just Bruce. And I think, yes,
that's very much what it is. Is he's trying to
balance those two sides of his persona ultimately failing because
it's always going to be about the Batman. And I
love the fact that here we get to see multiple
sides of him, as in the detective side literally you know,

(10:45):
fisticuff side and everything else that goes with that. There
were some puns which maybe were a little bit on
the nose, but it is Batman, so I think you
can forgive it. But also the fact that I was
amazed when we saw him almost mourn Joker's death because
at first time it seems that Joker has died when
he falls into the water and you know, electrocutes himself.

(11:07):
Bruce is generally crestfalled and upset that Joker is dead
because we know the Batman doesn't kill, but Jokers, you know,
the worst of the worst. It he goes back to
the bat Cave and it's like, Joker died, I'm not
going to lose anybody else. So it almost feels like
he would miss Joker if he weren't there, or his
foes if he weren't they weren't there because they're the

(11:29):
reason why he puts on the cape and cow every day.
So I don't know, it almost seems like borderline obsessive.
It's like, if you take away these people, what's the
point of being Batman? And does my life have a point?
And I think that's also maybe the fact that Alfred saying,
you know, you can't always just be Batman all the time.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
But just that moment sat.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
With me in a Curacory. Huh, he's actually upset that
the Joker is dead, you know, rather than just move on.
So I appreciated that moment where I think it has
said it delves it not going too deep, of course,
but it delves into his psyche somewhat of he needs
these people because they justify why he does what he does,
as in defending Gotham City from the worst of the worst.

(12:11):
And then I think there was also a little bit
of a Jonathan Harker to him when it came to
the Dracula story, because he's the one that kind of
encounters him and has to deal with the vampires and
the course up to his ingenuity to then cure vampirism.
That's something else I appreciate about this is they looked
at it more as a scientific disease of the blood,
which will be something that we will be addressing later

(12:33):
down the line with other movies we'll be talking about
during the course of Spooky Season folks. So I like
that concept of vampirism is actually a disease, it's not
a something magical, it's not a curse. And Dracula's patient zero.
So and of course as the scientist, he is, of course,
and having the mind that he does, Bruce is unable
to solve that. And it was absolutely brilliant, even to

(12:55):
the point of having Joker in the Back Cave and
feeding him beloved in order to kind of keep him
alive and kind of keep him going. So much going
on in this film, but really really well done. So
I thoroughly appreciate him once again. As I said before,
I think Gadino did a great job once again voicing
our hero. So let's move on to other two members

(13:15):
of the Back family, who we did talk about a
little bit. Here we have Alistair Duncan reprising his role
as Alfred Penniworth and a woman who is ubiquitous of
course with anything animated superhero animated, the wonderful taras strong
as Vicky Vale. So what do you make of these
two characters, Keith?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
What can you say?

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Since we were very familiar with both of these actors,
They do a great job. She does play a very good,
very convincing Vicky Vale. You know, she shows just enough intrigue,
she's very flirty when they're sitting at dinner together, even
genuine concern when he doesn't show up at the dinner
date that she does come to the house for, and

(13:58):
he just kind of blows her off because he's so
obsessed with the whole Dracula angle. And she talks to
Alfred and he's just kind of like it's almost like
that awkward elevator conversation you have with your boss and
you're like, yeah, so how's that weather, and yeah, look,
I gotta go wash my hair and just do other things.
But you know, he even sees that Batman or Bruce

(14:23):
is very obsessed with this, and like you mentioned, it's
probably because of what happened with the Joker earlier in
the movie. And then when he finds out the Jokers alive,
he's trying to save him because he couldn't save him
the first time, he's going to try it. He's gonna
do everything in his power to save him this time.
And Alfred is essentially the voice of reason, like, hey,
you know, you got to go to sleep at some time,

(14:44):
or hey, don't forget about your date with you know,
miss Veil. And when he finally decides to take a break,
Alfred's right there and it's like, hey, why don't you
call her back? And you have this giant screen where
it says voicemail Vicky Vail, so he calls her back.
It's interesting because this is a younger Bruce and this

(15:06):
was the early years of Batman as it were, from
you know, some of the other iterations that we've seen,
and this Alfred definitely does play more of a father figure,
even more so than in the animated series, because there
is the obvious age gap opposed to when you see
the animated series or well, Alfred is older, so is Batman,

(15:27):
and Bruce is a little bit older here he's you know,
twenty something, thirty something. He's still wet behind the ears,
and Alfred has to kind of be the adult occasionally, like, hey,
don't forget to have friends, don't forget to go outside
or go sleep, because you've been doing this for two
straight days. And in this series you see this often

(15:48):
because there are other characters that are introduced that Alfred
does interact with, and he is very much the father
figure of the the bat Clan, as it were, and
it's great to see him do this.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And even I.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Will say the one you know, whatever you want to
call it, annoying thing or lazy writing, is at the
very end when he's got the crossbow and he shoots
Dracula and he's like, suck on this clink, and you're like, dude,
you could have just shot him and not said shit,
and we all would have been like okay, or like
it was just one of those things that it was like, really,

(16:22):
this dude's like on point the other ninety nine percent
of the time. And then like just yells as he
shoot someone. I'm like, oh, come on, Like it's just it.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
They were doing it for the reaction, but this is Dracula,
who moves faster than a speeding bullet. You don't want
to say shit, you want to sneak up on the guy,
just gonna put it out there. And that was probably
the one like head slap kind of moment with Alfred
and even Dracula interacting with Vicky's character like he falls

(16:54):
effectively in love with her but not at the same time,
which is weird because he's so infatuated with her that
he wants to capture her make her his bride sort of.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
But when you get to the end of the movie you.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
Find out he doesn't want to make her his bride.
He wants her soul to resurrect his original Bride and
even penguins kind of confused there for a minute, which
is great because I was like, why, what you could
have literally just grabbed anybody off the street and done
the exact same thing. You turned like fifty seven people
already into these vampires.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Why didn't you just not use one of them? Like
why Vicky?

Speaker 6 (17:33):
And I think that was an interesting twist, But then
at the same time, it's the head scratcher, like you
could have resurrected her like a week ago, or like,
you know, the next day after you got resurrected, but nope,
you decided to wait and capture this woman. And yeah,
you could say it's because he was trying to lure

(17:53):
in Batman, but it just didn't make a lot of sense.
And it was kind of a waste of Vicky because
we know her as a strong character. Even when you
see her in the rest of this movie, you see
her as a strong individual. She's not the damsel in distress,
although then obviously when Dracula grabs her. But she's very kind,

(18:14):
she's caring, she has genuine concern for Bruce, and Bruce
is just so hyper focused on the task at hand
that he's missing this and that's why these two were
trying to, I guess, reel him back from the edge
because he is so hyper focused Batman that they're trying
to keep the Bruce Wayne persona alive.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
I definitely think so.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
And there were almost moments to me where I wonder
whether Vicky had put two and two together that Bruce
was Batman, because I love that moment where she's alone
after they've had their botch dinner where she was interviewing him,
because the cameras went there because obviously we know she's
a TV report and she has a little recorder on
the table. He's like, you're so hard to pin down.
Apparently they've had this standing date for so long when

(19:00):
it was more like supposed to be more of a
professional interview where she won't obviously talk to Gotham's most
eligible bachelor and you know, man about town and such,
but also you know she At the same time, we
do learn.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
That the VICKI is attracted to to Bruce.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
And she and I love that moment where she's alone
kind of looking at a newspaper articles and saying, why
am I attracted to this man?

Speaker 5 (19:23):
He's like, is he because he's handsome?

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Is it his money, and then there's that moment she goes,
I wish, I wish I was that shallow. So I
think she is more attracted to Bruce because of the
mystery that surrounds him. And I think she openly says
that because she feels there's more to this guy than
the billionaire playboy who you know, has you know, all
these all these gorgeous women on his arm and is

(19:45):
throwing these lavish parties and is also a philanthropists at
the same time. So I think she's more attracted to
the man of mystery, and you know, she opened She's
very open about her feelings. Even when they have that
dinner almost at the top of the movie, she's kind
of telling him, Yeah, I kind of like you and
I'm kind of into you, but I also want to
keep this professional. And she's almost a disappointed or upset

(20:07):
when he leaves, more because she feels it's her fault
rather than anything of was I was I that unprofessional?
Whether when she then also realized that this is Bruce
Wayne one oh one, this is what he does all
the time. He'll just randomly leave because he's like, I
have other things to attend to. What I also liked
about her is you know, to go on continue with
the Dracula analogy. She was also very much a the

(20:31):
Mina Harker of the piece. Not obviously, like you said,
the damselon distresses Mina is in the novel, but there
are I think a lot of connections, especially the fact
of a first Dracula wanting to make her his bride
and then wanting to then use her as a conduit
to resurrect his actual bride, car Miller, because he sees
her as the perfect vessel. So I did appreciate that,

(20:53):
and I agree, I think both her mission or she's
made it her mission. It's been Alfred's longtime mission to
Paul Bruce back from the edge and make him understand
that there are other things other than being a crime
fighter or a vigilante and actually enjoying things. And as
even Alfred says, Vicky is so patient with him because
I think that's how much she is infatuated in love

(21:16):
with him, that she's prepared to put up with the
fact that he's all over the place, and maybe she
hopes that she'll be able to be the one to
kind of, you know, pin him down somewhat and actually,
you know, be there with him and for him. So
I like the fact she doesn't force herself upon him,
but she makes it clear how she feels, and I
think Bruce feels the same way about her, except once

(21:36):
again he's fighting this obsession of being Batman as well.
And Alfred, I mean, Alistair voices the character to a
te I love the accent, I love the quick wit.
And yes there is that moment, of course where you
had that suck on this which was a little bit ridiculous.
But yeah, I think you pointed out very well Keith
when you say that he is very much the father

(21:56):
figure to Bruce here, trying to do his best to
keep him level headed, and as well as being his
accomplice in the his Batman adventures and being his surgeon
and doing so many other things for him. He's the
perfect partner for Batman. I think also Bruce, I'm and
I think as even this movie progresses an even in

(22:18):
the series, we see that Bruce really has huge respect
for Alfred and really cares for him because of everything
the man does. So it's a great addition and part
of me almost wanting to hope that him and VICKI
would go steady, but we know Batman works alone, so
we'll see how long this relationship with with Miss Bail lasts.

(22:39):
So before we get to our big bad, let's get
to two members of Batman's rogues gallery who have quite
a bit to do in this film. We have the
aforementioned Kevin Michael Richardson as Joker and Tom Kenny as Penguin.
So what did you make of these two big members
of Batman's rogues gallery.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Well, I remember the first time I watched this one,
and you had that whole scene in the beginning where
Joker's falling off the bridge and excuse me, Batman tries
to save him but he falls in You're like, oh
my god, I think he's deceased, and you're like, wait,
they're just going to drown his ass and like the
first ten minutes of the movie and we're not gonna
see him again. So I like the fact that they

(23:18):
did eventually have him pop back up, and he even
gives the Penguin a hard time because Penguin's like, I
thought you were dead, and he's like, yeah, who would
have guessed. You know, whatever was one hundred thousand volts.
So shock therapy would do to a person. He surprised me,
surprised the guy in the net, and here we are,
and like he just keeps going. And I just love
how he just nonchalantly because we don't see this. This

(23:39):
all happens offscreen, and he just knocks on the door
and pops back up. And I appreciate the beginning of
the movie where the whole thing starts in Arkham Asylum
and it's just some arbitrary mobster Doue talking to the
penguin and you're talking about that they're plotting this whole
breakout because there's this treasure. It's in the the uh

(24:00):
uh dip dip their one of the crips, and in
the cemetery and he wants his help and he's like,
I'll split a fifty to fifty and the Penguin's like,
all right, this sounds like a good idea. And random
bad guy's like, yeah, that other guy didn't help me,
And you see the look on them penguin's face, like
what do you mean another guy? He's like, hey, yeah,
I went to the other guy who broke out, who
has broken out more offen to you, And he's like

(24:20):
you even look at the expression on his face is
just shit, and they're like, you just know that's the
look because you just you see it. And then a
split second later, the alarm goes off and the three
of them break out, granted they go in their own
separate directions and then meet up. And no sooner do
they meet up than Batman pops up and starts kicking
everybody's butt, and the penguin just kind of SLINKs off,

(24:41):
which the penguin is known to do because he is
not necessarily a fighter per se. He is more of
a thinking man, as we've seen in other iterations of
his character, So he just SLINKs off. And he's the
whole reason why we have Dracula, because he was looking
for some money. I mean, it's a silly plot device,
but it gets the story going. My whole thing was like,

(25:04):
how did Dracula wind up in Gotham? We're just not
going to talk about this. And even Dracula's confused, which
I thought was great too, and he's like, who are you?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Where am I? What is going on?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Yeah, all right, this is not transflating anymore. And he's like, no,
this is Gotham and he's like what. And I like
the fact that he uses some of his known powers.
He hypnotizes the penguin, and penguin essentially becomes his igor
or his henchmen and does all of his things that
he has to when he's sleeping. And that is the
perfect foil for this character. It's great that they kept

(25:37):
him in here just enough that he's known for being
like this slinky, slimy guy, and that's what he does.
He he helps his master, he does whatever task he
has to do when the sun is up, and he
guards the crypt, and then the Joker shows up and
just throws a monkey wrench into everything. I like how
the penguin. The first thing he's gonna do is like,
hang on a second. He just throws him right in

(25:59):
the crypt and Dracula turns him. What I started laughing
about is the fact that the next time you see
the Joker, he is just white. All the color is
drained from him, his hair, his clothes, literally everything. And
I'm like, that's a hell of a bite, Like he
literally drained the color out of your clothes. Like that's
that's impressive, that's skill. And I get it they were

(26:21):
trying to, you know, show it that he has now
turned to a vampire. But it was just so funny
to see it because we're normal where he is normally
colorful with his purple suit and everything. He's just straight
white on white on white, and even Batman's like, something's
not right here, and then they start throwing hands, which
I appreciate with these two iterations of the characters. They're

(26:43):
very well matched in terms of hand to hand combat,
as you see them fighting the blood bank and you
see in other episodes of the show when this was.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
On the air.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
What got me is the fact that he was smart
enough to go to a blood bank to drink all
the blood, where Dracula's like, let me just turn everybody
in the city into mindless vampires, like you're trying to
get your strength back. That would have been the first
thing the penguin should have recommended, like, hey, let's go
rob a bank, and that would have been a funny,
you know transition to been like what do you mean

(27:16):
a bank and then him explaining because again Dracula has
been asleep for however many years, and that would have
been just a fun setup.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
But it's a missed opportunity.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
I liked the fact that at the very end, when
he does eventually snap out of this because of what
happens to Dracula. He finds his reward and two seconds
later there's guns pointed at his face from the cops
like freeze, and he's even like again that damn it
look on his face. He while not being animated per se,

(27:48):
he has the best facial expressions of any of most
of the characters in here. And that's a lot to
do with the drawing style of these guys, because even
the Riddler and even the Joker, when you see him
like mad, even though he has that big, oversized grin,
it still translates into like mad, sad, angry. When he's
hungry in the cage, you can tell he's hungry, even

(28:10):
though again it's the Joker. So I like both these characters.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
They interacted with each other just enough, where.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
The downside being if you had not seen, like in
your case, had not seen any of the cartoon from
which this was based on, you would know the why
they don't like each other or very reluctant allies like
they were in the very beginning of this. But I
mean that's something minor. We know that the Joker and
the Riddler and all these characters don't get along with

(28:41):
each other all these world galues. They tend to go
out on their own and they don't like to team
up unless they really have to. It's a minor gripe,
I'm aware, but I liked it. I like these characters.
The way they portrayed. The penguin does very much what
I remember from like the Batman sixty six and Batman
the animated series.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
This seems like.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
A natural progression or even a prequel to the animated
series because of how all these characters act.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
I think that's wonderful you put it in canon that
this might have been, you know, the prequel to Batman
the animated series. And and yeah, it's always great to
see these guys. I mean, I like you said, I
appreciated how they were reinvented, like even in the animated series,
where I mean, I know, like you said, there were
some folks who weren't happy with Joker Hecker. Apparently initially
prior to Kevin getting the job, they actually wanted to

(29:29):
give this to Tim Curry, and I think that would
have been a fantastic casting, But I think they turned
it away because when Tim started to read the lines,
like I think we're going to be scaring too many
kids if we have him played Joker, because of course,
as we know, he did play another killer clown i
Akap anywise, so I think that was what was going
through the producer's mind when they were listening to Tim

(29:51):
read the lines as Joker, and since like we were saying,
I think this is a universal all ages show. You obviously,
I want a creepier your audience out too much. As
much as I as that would be dreamcasting for me
to have Tim Curry play Joker, it would have been
absolutely perfect, But I think they chose a great I

(30:11):
think compromise with Kevin because he also has a very dark,
deep gravelly voice and is able to.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Bring through the creepiness when he has to.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
But he's also just like I think, to a certain extent,
Tim Curry does, has all these different mood swings because
that's who Joke. That's who Joker is, at least in
the comics and in these versions where he's all over
the place, So he can be super dark, he can
be hilarious, he can pretend to be sad, he can
pretend to have all sorts of other emotions, and so
I really like that we've got to spend time with

(30:42):
Joker in this and almost in a different version, because
other than being the crazy clown who comes up with
all these insane schemes here, one we almost see him
die being electrocuted in the water by his own buzzer.
And two, what like you said, when we see him
turned into a vampire, which is, like you said, very
impressive that the color from his hair has drained, his

(31:03):
clothes are drained.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
And literally this is what he looks like.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
But it did add that extra creepy element to him,
because like Joker as a vampire could be very bad news.
And just seeing him in the blood bank drinking this
blood so hungrily and then having all these these these
these reactions knocking things over and being as strong, if
not stronger than Batman and even faster like this could

(31:27):
be a genuine threat. And ultimately when he's completely caked
in blood, and then you know, Batman gets the better,
gets the upper hand. The moment when Joker was locked
up in the bat cave that gave me major Renfield
vibes from Dracula, where you know, folks don't they're not
familiar with the novel. Renfield is literally Dracula's servant who

(31:49):
is a little bit cuckoo and is literally in an
insane asylum. He's eating flies and hoping and praying that
his master will soon arrive. And he did have those
elements here because literally we see Joker eat a bug,
so I'm sure that was a homage to Reinfield and
just how he's suffering.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
The blood withdrawals so.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Well done, to the point where even Bruce takes pity
on him and literally gives him at first a pack
of blood and then obviously you know, to turn him back,
gives him another pack of blood which is not which
has been tainted. But the fact that Bruce is you know,
looking him like a drug addict and saying, you know,
I feel feel for this guy. I'm going to give him,
you know, his fix, and he literally throws the bag

(32:29):
of blood into the into the cell. Fantastic moment.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
I was right there for it.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
And as I said, I think there's so much to
both kids and adults can enjoy from this because of
how it's done, whether you know the story of Dracula,
whether you have seen how addiction is portrayed in fitting
on screens both big and small, absolutely great and so
so I was very very happy with not only with
what Kevin brought vocally, but also just how well paced

(32:56):
and animated. This was same with Penguin. And I think
he's also another ren Field like character because like you said,
of Dracula hypnotizing him and him being his loyal servant
and telling him when to wake up and telling him
when he has to go to bed, and making all
these odd comments. But but also I think an essential
part of the of the of the narrative as well.

(33:18):
I mean, other than both of them, the whole thing starts,
like I said, because both of them going on this
treasure hunt. He and then he ultimately becomes Dracula's servant.
I did appreciate, and I think we not only I
think does Tom Kenny does a do a great job.
I like this revamped version of Penguin, which we said,
like you and I have seen the series where he
is somewhat of a better fighter that he has apparently

(33:40):
learnt martial arts from his trip in the Orient, as
he says, and so he we see this when he
outsmarts the guardens and does have some some kind of
physic more of a physicality to him. So so I
thought he these were both excellent choices for, you know,
to appear in this film, aside from our big bad

(34:01):
So I did. I did appreciate what we got, and
like you said, the irony was not lost of me.
But we ultimately do find that there is treasure in
one of the tombs, and of course Penguin won't be
able to get his hands on him because he's carted
back off to Arkham Asylum, speaking of which actually got
me in stitches. What I was thinking about was when

(34:22):
the random mobster guy is telling Penguin it's behind a cross.
I'm like, dude, it's a cemetery. How many crosses are
there going to be? Penguin does not think about this
until he's in the cemeteries, like, ah, that must be
it behind the cross and he turns around and he's
surrounded by crosses, like this is going to be a

(34:43):
little bit harder than you thought, isn't it. So I
did appreciate that that particular moment, and he's able to
find it out rather the he's able to find Draculas
to him. But yeah, and I and like you said,
the fact that he is the one who brings Dracula
back to life is perfect. So let's enough our characters
with our big bad. We have the aforementioned Peter Stormade,

(35:05):
of course one of the Jews of Sweden, and of
course of the acting world, as Dracula also aka Doctor Alucards.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
So what did you make of this version of our
Prince of darkness?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Keith?

Speaker 6 (35:17):
I only did he's again, as we've mentioned, we've reviewed
him several times on other iterations of other movies. Hansel
and Gretel is the one that pops up most recently
in my mind, but he's always fun. He is an
entertaining actor to watch. He enjoys what he does. He
jumps in. You know, one hundred percent I believed him

(35:38):
as Dracula. He had all the mannerisms, all the presence
to him, the vibe, everything about him just screamed Dracula
from the minute he wakes up confused, where.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
He's like, I am draculah blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
And he does that whole thing and then immediately gets
his red and field with the penguin and arts turning people,
meets Batman or Bruce Wayne initially and then Vicky. Even
then he has that vibe in presence to him. He's
just got this aura that he is Dracula. Even when

(36:13):
he's in his quote unquote you know, human form at
the ball, he is still Dracula, you know, he is.
He has that vibe to him. It helps with the
the fact that the art style makes him look like
a vampire one hundred percent of the time, but he
plays it to a t and even with his interactions
with Bruce Wayne, they go very much at tit for tat.

(36:37):
I like the fact that he was able to overpower
Bruce mentally and kind of hypnotize him initially. More often
than not, we always see the oh, I had some
Tibetan training on this, I have mental you know, barriers
for that. I'm always prepared. Again, this is showing us
a very young and for lack of a better term,

(36:58):
naive batman. So he hasn't really done all that mental
preparation going forward, different story, but you know, in this
point in time, he hasn't come up with a or sorry,
come against this type of fight before, So he wasn't
prepared and I like that he shows that he can
work on the fly. He has designed all these weapons

(37:18):
or updated his weapons to fight Dracula, because why would
he ever be prepared to fight a character.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
He didn't think existed.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
It's not like in the comic books where Batman has
a prep for literally everything. He's just prepared. He's like, Oh,
here's my drawer for supernatural beings, just in case that
was real. Like, that's not a thing in the cartoon.
So I appreciate the fact that he has to figure
out engineer this serum to turn vampires back to humans

(37:46):
and then create the weapons like his boomerangs that he
dips in garlic. I will say that it was a little,
I don't know, rushed the fact that they happen to
have the perfect device in the cave to destroy Dracula.

(38:06):
They had the ultimate McGuff and conveniently, he's like, Hey,
I have this machine that does this thing, and you're like,
what are the odds you happen to have that available?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Like, statistically not very high.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
So that was the only Batman prep annoyance that I
kind of had with this. Otherwise, I think with them
going back and forth, even when they're in the bat
cave and Dracula is like, oh, I see you've copied
my cave. You're trying to be me, you know, he's
antagonizing Batman because we don't have the Joker, we don't

(38:38):
have the Penguin, so we need this other foil ie
Dracula to kind of pick up that slack. Although you
should have killed Batman like twenty six different times during
the course of this movie. He's literally threw him through
a wall, smashed his head into the ground, all this
crazy stuff, and Batman's like.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Oh, I think I cracked a rib or, I got
a bruise. Now, dude, you're dead. Like, there's no like
I'm going to walk this off. You are dead.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
He is a supernatural being who's thrown you through everything.
I liked when they did actually show his weakness to
the sun. As we all know. You know, he does
not like direct sunlight, and they brought it at the
right point when Batman's about to lose sun conmediately comes up,
you know, plot device, and then he's also like, oh, yeah,

(39:27):
he doesn't like sunlight, Like somehow he forgot that one.
He knew about the garlic or and all the other
cliche issues, but even Dracula fighting Batman, he was impressed
and also wanted him as a victim, so it was
like that weird certain level of respect and again, you
know our actor, he cannot do any wrong, like literally

(39:51):
could probably read me the phone book and I would
have been like, all right, cool, sign me up.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yes, Pizza is definitely, I think an international treasure and
I'm and I hope that he is as appreciated in
his native Sweden as he is by US folks outside
of Scandinavia because, of course, you know, he then I
think brought to a whole new breed of other Swedish
actors when it came to after after Peter, you know,

(40:16):
kind of broke the mold again. I mean we had had,
of course great Swedish actors and actresses prior, but I
think he kind of spearheaded this new generation of Scandinavian
actors and I'm so glad that he did. You know,
I think the Scars Guard family, you know, along with
with with of course Peter, who have done so many
fantastic things, are that's not so great. You know, there's
always the crob, but we'll never talk about that. Had

(40:40):
to bring that up. But yes, as dracular, he's absolutely
perfect because we have seen him, you know, play villains before.
You know, you brought up huns Land Gretel. You and
I talked about this off air about him playing loose
for morning Star in Constantine does probably one of the
best It's probably one of the best moments in the
whole film, is the change between Lucifer and Constantine, because

(41:02):
Peter just choose at the scenery like there's no tomorrow.
He does the same thing here vocally. I was literally
watching this with my headphones on, and I have to
really commend the sound guys, because it's.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
The audio is just so crisp.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
You could literally listen to it as an audio drama,
that's how good it is.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
So I was, so I was.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Even more engrossed and even more sucked into the story
because I literally was listening to it with headphones these days,
I do that a lot with films, so because it
allows me personally to appreciate the sound mix when it
comes to films, both animated and live action. And the
fact that here, you know, obviously the I really.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Wasn't lost on me.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I talked about this earlier, that we have another Batman
in Gotham City. Of course, you know Bruce has gone
against man bat a few times, and this is, of
course is the genuine article and He even Drakula himself
almost sees at first Batman as his heir. He's like,
you've carried on my legacy and my legend, and he's
almost sees him as a almost as a putative son

(42:01):
if he will, because he's like, you know, you're the
guy who's kind of could be the next generation. He
even asks Bruce, He's like, join me, because you know
you and I could do fantastic things together. But at
the same time, you also have the trope I guess
you could say of the sexy vampire when he when
he is doctor Alucard, you know, impeccably dressed, has this

(42:23):
this very low voice.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
And kind of seducing the ladies.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
I mean, I think he he Well, Vicky's not impressed,
but then again, Vicky's Vicky's not particularly impressed with anybody,
to be honest, other than Bruce. She's she's very much
her own woman, like not swooning, and I was glad
she didn't. But he does have that charisma, that majestic
side of the Dracula that we've seen in multiple films
I think, especially of Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula.

(42:50):
But yeah, and I think it was a great villain
for Batman, and like you said, Bruce gets banged up
quite a bit against this character. I think the worst
I've seen Bruce beaten up was when he encountered Baine
and series, where he was really you know, would pretty
much could not walk where he had to call Alfred
to come pick him up. Because that's how bad it
was here, Like you said, he's limping into the bat

(43:12):
cave because the guy can. It took such a beating
and probably should have been dead at that point, but
it's Batman. He probably would never have had more episodes
that you can't really kill with the character.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
But and then yes, the.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Chekhov's Sun gun or you know sun obscene, which we
saw at the ball where we was like, oh, yes,
this drains that you know uses energy from the sun,
and Dragon is like, oh, this could be interesting because
I could do youpower the sun or something as a
kind of a mister Burns moment of eclipsing the sun.
He's like, oh, I could use this, but of course

(43:45):
it is it is what ultimately will destroy him. So,
like you said, it was a little bit telegraphed. I
mean as soon as they showed that at the board, like,
I have a feeling this is going to play into
the movie later, and of course it did. But I
think he was Peter was so world cast and Dracula
was very well written. I think for this this movie,
even though who'll never come back? We never know, but

(44:07):
I mean, I doubt it unless somebody in a trash
can decides to keep Dracula's skull and brings it back
to life. Stranger things have happened, But yet we get
that moment of Alfred saying I'll just sweep this into
the trash that I and so we just have the
skull and I guess being picked up by the garbage
men the next day, I suppose. But yes, it was

(44:28):
a great addition to the various versions of Dracula that
we've seen throughout the years. So is there anything else, Keith,
you'd like to mention about this movie before we get
to ratings?

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Ah?

Speaker 6 (44:41):
No, I think we covered everything. We had had a
good time for the start of Spooky season.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
I definitely think so too. My only question was because
I don't remember the when exactly. This was kind of
placed within the Batman series. I guess Robin and Batgirl
were not a thing yet right.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Correct, they were.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
This was probably season one ish or right after season
one or two, because they the later seasons they introduced
back Girl first and then Robin, so it's still early on.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
That's what I figured.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
And because we're like, oh yeah, because I because I
remember there was both Robin and bat Girl. But I
guess Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon were just not a
thing at the moment. In fact, we don't even see
the Commissioner Gordon for that matter, or any have other
characters that would populate this world, you know, Rojas and
the other you know ying. Of course it was a
big cop in the in the in the series. Was

(45:35):
curious that they decided not to feature them, But I
guess it's like this is like a side West.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Don't worry about the other side characters. But just my
thoughts there, So I guess.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Then getting to ratings, what do you give this Batman
movie out of ten?

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (45:50):
Actually, I did remember what I wanted to ask you
real fast, Oh, rit did you think it was a
little crazy that the cops went shoot to kill on
Batman when, as we all know, Batman to kill anybody,
And they're like, Batman's killed all of these people kill them,
and they just like literally escalated it because the cops
did zero research because all these people were missing, and
they just assumed it was him based on a drunk

(46:12):
homeless guy I did.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
I did think it was a little bit crazy, and
then again one could almost I'm not blaming her entirely,
but when Vicky did her report, she's like, the lost
people are you know, have heard of that? There's this
sighting of this person who looks like a bat And
of course people immediately jump to the conclusion of who's this.
It's Batman. So Vicky kind of planted that seed and

(46:39):
it came to the public at large, probably without meaning to,
but she kind of points out the fact of Batman
might no longer be a vigilante. He might actually be
our villain. So she does because obviously she doesn't know
that Bruce and Batman are one of the same at
that point, but she does kind of get that ball rolling,
and then yes, police craziness ensues where they literally shooting

(47:00):
to kill. So you kind of feel bad for Batman,
but because I guess at the end they they don't
know any better because from one drunken homeless guy saying.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Oh, yes, I saw him. He was a bat.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Guy, and so everybody just takes it for what is.
It was a little bit crazy, I will agree, But
it also I think allowed us for a pretty fun
scene which did remind me of the the Frank Miller
Batman that came out Batman, you know, the Batman our
year one comic kind of reminded me of that because

(47:31):
of the great scene or shoots the Great Panels where
Batman is cornered by the police, and so I wonder
where that might have also been a homage to Batman
Year one, but who knows.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
But I agree with yes, it was a little bit
over the top.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
So yes, I guess I'm resuming our ratings segment. What
would you give this movie out of ten?

Speaker 6 (47:51):
Dang it, I was trying to change the subject while
I thought about it. For me, it's an eight out
of ten. I know this is not the Batman for everyone,
but based on the context of this series and just
the cast and the story, how well it was actually written,
opposed to some of the other stuff we've seen and reviewed,

(48:12):
it's an eight for me.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
I'm right there with you. I'm actually gonna go half
a point high. I'm actually gonna give this eight and
a half out of ten. Then again, I've always been
very happy with what Dwayne Kapiti has done writing for
the show. I think he's always been a very good
writer when it comes to the I mean he hasn't
he hasn't written all of the episodes, of course, but
I know he's been a longtime collaborator and writer of
the show, and it very much shows here. So I

(48:38):
thought very much appreciate as much as it did, feel
like this is a Batman episode, all that Batman special
and it's an hour and twenty minutes long compared to
the regular run time. I was perfectly fine with it,
and like you said, I think a great way to
start up our spooky season series of episodes on the podcast.
So eight and a half out of ten for me.
So getting then to the recommendation segment, Keith, did you

(49:01):
have anything you'd like to share with the class when
it comes to this movie? And folks actually enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
G listeners, he's calling everything segments now were so formal
and junk listen. So I was thinking about this one
while you and I were talking, and I'm gonna recommend
some of the stuff we'd mentioned offline. If you like
the vampires and the spooky stuff. There's a couple of
anime that are from the nineties that made me think
of this. It was Helsing the Original not Ultimate because

(49:31):
you'll hate yourself by watching it because it's terrible. Then
Trinity Blood, which is another spooky vampire inspired one, and
then I'm gonna go with the obvious Blade because of
the random formula Batman whips up in his cave to
quote unquote cure vampirism made me think of the Blade movie.

(49:52):
And then Fright Night, which is another random vampire killer movie.
So definitely a colectic selection of movie used to watch.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Excellent selections.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I will say, I mean other than I guess, you know,
recommending the obvious. So the eighteen ninety seven Dracula novel
by Sir Bram Stoker. If you've not read it, I
strongly suggest it. I know they're folks who are like
it's you know, it might seem a little bit old,
but hey, eighteen ninety seven great year. I was there,
I would know. So if you want to check that out,

(50:27):
and if you haven't read it already, I strongly suggest
that you do. You do do so because that's where
everything spawned from. This was literally the granddaddy of why
we have films like this. So I would suggest that
then I did mention Batman Year one. Granted it has
little nothing to do with this particular movie that we discussed,

(50:47):
but I do think, as I've said, that some scenes
might have been an echo or homage to that. So,
and it was one of my was one of the
first Batman stalk comics that I actually read in full
way back when, and still means a lot to me.
It's one of my favorite things that Frank Miller ever
did when it came to Batman, to be honest, that's
had the great stuff he was did for Marble, I mean,
so I would strongly suggest that, and last for certain,

(51:10):
at least speaking of Dracula, I would then check out
what I also mentioned earlier, Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula, which
also I think was a strong entry into the Dracula
franchise or vampire franchise. So you've got, of course a
Gary Oldman, You've got who plays Dracula. You've got winning
a Ryder, and a couple of other you know, Keanie

(51:32):
Reeves is in there.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Briefly.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Even our own Italian Monica Bilucci is in there as well,
and she's in there for two seconds. But it's it's
definitely very well done, and it's a Coppola film, so
you know you're getting quality when it comes to to
Frankie Coppola, so I will throw those in. Yes, of course,
Frankie and I are on a first name basis, folks,
so that's why I called him Frankie. No, just kidding,
I wish I was, but never mind. So I guess, folks,

(51:56):
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who have done so in the future, thank you to
those who will so. Speaking of yourself, Keith, when you're
not here discussing dracular potentially taking over Gotham City, where
can folks find you on the interweps?

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (52:52):
You know me, I just like to collect moss and
count rocks while I'm not doing anything. And then you know,
when I'm not doing that, I like to sleep because
as I never sleep, you can catch me. Besides, here,
I was on Gold Standards with you for an episode.
I was on Star Trek The Undiscovered podcast this year
a couple of times, The Hour of Comics as well

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Lamb Chop and then Real Reactions. I had a very
busy twenty twenty five and I feel like I didn't
do anything all year long. So that just goes to
show Y'a'm either always busy or always not. And then
obviously when I'm not here or there, you can find
me on our Facebook page. You can just leave a
comment message whatever the case may be. I'm always around

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to talk about cartoons. Combooks, anime, manga, whatever.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Bad with this stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Indeed, one folks that are really check out all the
great guest appearances that Keith has made, because he always
makes an impact whatever podcast he is on. When it
comes to myself, you can find me hosting the radio
show Whiskey and Cigarettes where we play the very best
and nothing but the best of country music for you
guys from Malabama to Babies. More information about that you
can is our website which is Whiskey and Cigarettes show

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dot com. Podcast Wise, you can also find myself and
those two lovely ladies, as Keith kindly mentioned gold Standard
the Oscars podcast, and those two lovely ladies answer the
names of.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Zan Sprouse and Rachel Friend. On there.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
We have reviewed all the Best Picture winning movies in
chronological order. Now as we wait for the ninety eighth
Best Picture to review itself, we are reviewing movies that
we have picked, and we also have returning in new
guest co hosts bring their favorite films to the gold
Standard Theater, just like Keith did, of course, and I'm
hopeful and looking forward to having him returning. I believe
Keith will be on the schedule for next year. Looking

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forward to seeing what your selection will be. We recently
reviewed the movie that I picked, which was Spice World,
so we discussed all things Spice Girls and beyond. Coming
up next, we are reviewing the movie that Zan picked
from nineteen eighty and that movie answers the name of
Fatso and that is starring course Dom de Luis. So

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I'd never seen this film, but I know it's one
Zan's favorites, so we'll definitely see what we make of it.
And of course it's it's Anne Bancroft's debut as a director,
writer and also co star in this film, so and
got to do a lot when it came to this one.
So looking forward to seeing what Zans thoughts are and
that one also Rachel's of course, and last but saying

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not least myself and Charles Skaggs can be found in
the fandom Zone podcast, where we're currently reviewing the second
season of Peacemaker. Next time, as of this recording, this
coming Saturday, we will be reviewing the final episode of
said season, and I'm very excited to see how it
all wraps up, and because rumor has it that it
will probably lead into the Superman sequel of the DCU

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so viacurious to see what the connective tissue will be
when it comes to that, and speaking things to come
on this show. Next time we'll be continuing, I believe,
the vampire theme of course, the horror not so horror,
the theme of will of the podcast as we're taking
on the two thousand and six Kurt Wimmer film Ultraviolet,

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and this was a selection of Keith's as. I'm very
curious about this one. So, Keith, anything you'd like to
add on our upcoming movie or anything else before we
sign off.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
I think you guys can blame me pretty much all
of October three of the four movies or No. Two
of the three, and then we got a request from
our favorite Pain in the Butt for one, so this
will be interesting.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I own this movie as well.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
I know it's a shock. I have a very weird
collection of movies, but I like it. I think you'll
like it as well, and hopefully our fans will.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
I have seen this one, but it was many many
moons ago and I might have been intoxicated, so it's
probably why I have some very vague memories of it.
But I'm looking forward to revisiting it at least a
little bit more sober so. I guess we'll see when
I think of it. That said, folks, of course, thanks
as always just the show and supporting us. We will
see you next time with Ultraviolet. Until then, thank you

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so much for the proved you go time, stay super show.
Moppy Pitta the meta