June 24, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You have tasted more of life than I can ever imagine.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
But your story has no end. Do you know what
it's like to live forever?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Your immortality has made you the greatest soldier of the
Action Cross in a war between our world and the next.
I've waited my entire life for the opportunity to help you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And that's a chance to quick No, I want to
raise You're a dream walker, get a I need you
to take me to the dream world. It's the only
way to fight what's coming.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
If you die. In that.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He died and I need you to wake up.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You are.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you're not qualified for what happens next. The most
powerful witches that I've ever walked the earth are here
to destroy us and showy pickings. There's some very bad
things out there, Witches. You know what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Nothing, Charbie Ball and welcome to our two hundred and
ninety seventh episode of Happiness and Darkness, the Superior Movie
Podcast where we discuss superior movies Marvel, DC, dark Horse,
Image and Beyond. Naturally, there will be spoilers, folks, so
you have been warned. I'm one of your co hosts.
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Did you Nick? And it's always joining me as my
superhero partner in crime, mister Keith for this, Hey Keith,
how are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, not too bad. I'm apparently currently living on
the surface of the sun. It's one hundred and ten
degrees out here in North Carolina, so I'm just trying
not to burst into flames.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You and me both. It seems like, I say, communal experience,
because it's pretty hot over here in Milan, Italy as well.
The air conditioning unfortunately is on more often than not.
But I am, of course also very lucky and blessed
I do have air conditioning. That said, today we are
discussing the Last witch Hunter from twenty fifteen, so this
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movie officially is celebrating its tenth anniversary as of this recording.
This was directed by Breck Eisner. It was written by
Corey Goodman, Matts Osama and Burke Sharpless, while the score
was by Steve Yablonski. To put it in today's money,
this movie cost one hundred and twenty two million dollars
to make and made one hundred and ninety nine million
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at the box office, and apparently there have been talks
of a sequel for the last ten years, but we
haven't seen one that said Gedesig. The general impressions here, Keith,
you have mentioned to me are air that you had
seen this in bits and pieces, and this is the
first time I kind of sat through the entire thing.
What did you make? What did you make of it?
And my follow up question with Will said, b do
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you think it deserves to see?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Apparently I must have like PTSD from this movie because
I blacked out and don't remember half of the movie,
or didn't remember half of the movie. It wasn't until
the last I don't know, fifteen minutes of the end,
towards the end, rather that I was like, Hey, I've
seen this movie before. That's how boring and paint by
numbers it is. It's not that anybody in this movie
is terrible, terrible per se. It's just it's a very
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generic movie. I could rattle off about a dozen movies
that kind of fit into the same genre of tough
guy goes fight stuff, blah blah blah blah blah, rinse
and repeat. It's okay. I was actually talking about this before,
saying that this would have made a lot more sense
as a TV series, just for the fact that There
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are so many moving parts in this movie where they
just make them throw away comment and you're like, okay,
you just I should know what that means. And then
they just keep going and you're like, but what about
this enclave or why are these people? Or like how
did we get here? And why does it look like
the you know, scorched Earth under a church man. We're
not gonna talk about any of this stuff. It's not relevant,
you know, but it is because this is where the
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story takes place. So I feel like this would definitely
or could warrant a TV series opposed to like a sequel,
unless the sequel really delved into a lot of the
details that they left out during this first one. The
problem is, as you said, it's over a decade old,
and this guy's supposed to be a moral while Vin
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Diesel is getting older and he's clearly aging. So unless
they plan on deaging his character, which is possible, it's
just going to really ruin the continuity. It's almost like
a they tried to do Highlander but forgot that the
character can age. So I think the premise is sound,
I just don't know how they're really gonna go about
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executing it.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know what. This was the first time I sat
down to watch this, and I totally understand get when
you say this film fuse a little generic, because you know,
when we loved Last Year and we talked about Van Helsing,
which was in two thousand and four, it seemed like
for quite a while the two thousands were dominated by
films of this ilk where you had, like you said,
this kind of dark, brooding, muscle bound character who would
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take on supernatural forces, and of course you would have
a love interest or potential love interest, whether Chloe's love
interest will get to when we get to the characters,
and of course and everything that goes with that, you know,
from vampire hunting to witch hunting to all sorts of things.
So this is nothing new. What I did appreciate about
this one was some some of the law that they
dived into as we went along. I mean, we had
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a bit of an info dump from Dolan, the thirty
six ak Michael Kaine pretty much like fifteen or twenty
minutes into the movie, after we get to see you
know why Colder is you know now immortal and I
love I really enjoyed the premise because I like the
whole concept of almost say knights templar kind of situation.
They're then going on for ages and their job is
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to literally rid the world of monsters or anything that
is a potential threat to humanity. At the same time,
the Church does not come out particularly well from this film.
So I wonder whether our writers were rather anti clerical
when it came to their thoughts, as we will of
course discussed when it comes to the Dolans and the Church,
or maybe it raises the question of sometimes you have
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to do bad things in order to preserve the world.
It's like, maybe you have to make some sacrifices which
are not particularly proud of, but you have to do
those in order for mankind, to humankind for that matter,
to survive and keep going. So I think it does
pose that interesting question as much as it, as I
said before, it does come across as rather anti clerical
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for the most part. And all the secrets, you know,
because everybody talks often about the secrets that the Vatican
might be hiding, and I think this stuates that concept
in this film. I agree with you. I don't think
there were any bad performances. There were some predictable ones
when it came to certain characters where I immediately I
will think to myself, hmm, he or she does not
seem particularly on the level. And no surprise, they were
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not looking at you, Elijah Wood and that said. But
but other than that, I thought it told a good story.
And yes, clearly you could tell by the end they
were hoping possibly and we've said this before, and we
talked about other movies that maybe did not fare too
well that they wanted to maybe make more of these,
And clearly, when the ending comes around, it's evident that
they left it open enough for sequels, even though, as
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I said before, there have been talks for a sequel
since pretty much this movie came out. Nothing as serviced
since then. Whether they will do a reboot or whether
they will revisit it is anybody's guest. But other than that,
I enjoyed my time with this film. Let's say, even
though I had some questions. I mean, and this is
a very petty thing of mine, is we're never told
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where we are. Granted in the credits we learn it's Pittsburgh.
I believe because of the end credits tell us that
it was filmed on location in Pittsburgh. I wouldn't have
minded a little title card saying Pittsburgh nineteen fifty four
or whatever, but they don't tell you. Maybe because I'm
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not American, I didn't recognize Pittsburgh. Maybe you might have.
I don't know, but I would have. It would have
been nice to know, since they said it was shot
on location in Pittsburgh, so I'm assuming we're supposed to
be in an American city. But and in fact, that's
another question I had for you. Could you tell that
this was Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Not necessarily, I could tell it was a US city.
I think what really kind of screwed everything up was
the fact that Vin Diesel and Elijah Wood, how little
he was on screen, were the only two American actors.
Everybody else had some accent from other areas of the world.
He's driving an Austin Martin, so that doesn't help. I mean,
I guess if you paid attention to the license plate,
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you would know where they were. But that's such a
randow small detail that gets lost in everything else that
you don't go, oh, hey, look that's Pittsburgh because of
license plates, is PA or whatever the case may be.
So I'm not a big from New York, New Jersey.
I know, the New York Skyline like the back of
my hand, Pittsburgh and don't guys, don't kill me. But
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Pittsburgh is kind of generic looking other than certain buildings.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's why I guess maybe they chose Pittsburgh. And no
offense to any any listeners out there who hail from
from said city. But I guess they were like, do
we want to make this look like it could It
could happen in any American city. But you know, that
was just a small gripe of mind. But thanks to credits,
I learned.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Where it was shot.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So let's get to our characters on the board. Kicking
off with Team Colder, we have, of course Vin Diesel
as Colder, Rose Leslie as Chloe, and Michael Caine as
though than the thirty sixth So what did you make
of Team Colder, Keith.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, I'll start with the thirty six just because it's
Michael Kain and he deserves top billing. He was such
a wasted resource. I'm sorry, but he's in two minutes
of the movie or five minutes of the movie if
you really want to be you know, argue, argue about it.
But he dies and everyone's like, oh, Okay, he's dead. Like,
nobody researches this, nobody looks into this any for the
nobody from the church or this organization that he's a
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member of. Nothing. Everyone's like, Okay, he just died in
his sleep. We're cool. Done. Vin Diesel's character walks in,
spills some cigarette ash or some other magic crap on
the floor, and all of a sudden, he's like, look
all this Shenanigans, Like seriously, you're telling me this super
secret organization doesn't have investigators for crap like this. So
I felt like that was very lazy writing, just to
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be like, hey, we have this, you know, really big actor,
Michael Kine, and now he's dead, so we're gonna replace
him with this other character. And you'll see Michael Kaine's
body in random scenes during the movie, but he really
has no great impact until the very end of the movie,
and that's like the last two again, the last two
minutes of the movie. So I feel like his character
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was very underutilized, and I'm disappointed because it's freaking Michael Kine, Like,
you got Michael Kine to do some rando partner movie,
use him. He was freaking out for him. Baman he
was awesome, you know. But that being said, I know
they had to they need a mcguffin to kind of
move the story along. And guess, guys, I know I
used the word mcguffin a lot, but that's a lot
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of these stories are like that. Elijah Wood's character was Okay,
it was he was very two dimensional. He was not
a surprise at the very end when he turned and
was like I'm the bad guy blah blah blah blah blah,
and you're like, all right, great, we knew this. Everybody
could tell this. What I thought was really dumb is
his logic for switching sides to you know, because his
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parents were witches and he was born with that magic,
so he thought if he, I don't know, made good
friends with the witch queen, she was going to magically
imbue him with power. But he should have known better
because he's in an organization that kills witches and supernatural
crap that that's not a thing. So I felt like
that was a really lame or weak excuse, Like if
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he said he was a witch or warlock, will and
been like, okay, that makes sense, perfect sense, one hundred percent.
He's like my mommy, and Daddy were witches, and I
don't have power, so I want to join the witch side, Like,
but you're not a witch, you're a human. And I
appreciate the fact that she even tells him. He's like,
you can't make gold at a clay. I think she
says or something to that effect, and then kills him immediately,
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and I'm like, see, she even like she's supposed to
be the all powerful and told you to kick rocks,
so I kind of thought he got his just deserts.
Vin Diesel's character was interesting, boring ish, if that makes
any sense. When he's fighting, you know, he's all about
the fighting, but his downtime was very lame. He's sitting
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there working on a watch, and I get it, it's
supposed to time doesn't pass for him, or he doesn't,
you know, acknowledge time passing because he's functioning an immortal.
But out of all the hobbies he could have, he's like,
I'm gonna work on watches and you know, help build
model boats or something. I don't know. I just there
was a scene that wasn't necessarily needed in the movie,
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didn't show anything, it didn't help the story at all.
It's just one of those like waste of time. I
appreciated him going to what's her name, Chloe's bar and
that hole, going down that rabbit hole of trying to
find her his memories or remember his original memories, and
that's how he, excuse me, brought her into the fold
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of the craziness. And her character was okay. I think
she talked a little too much, but it felt like
it was more. And if anybody knows or has this
type of habit, it's a nervous talking like she's nervous
or like freaking out and she's trying to calm herself down,
and she's just rambling on about missling in his crap
or just whatever the case may be. And you can
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see that in certain scenes after he finds out she's
a dream walker, and another scene kind of that same
vibe or energy was given off. I don't know until
the very end, you're not one hundred percent that there's
attraction between the two of them, And I don't know
if that's for a lack of chemistry or it's just
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his character. He doesn't he isn't attached to the opposite
sex like he used to because his original wife and
child were dead and everybody else is just kind of
a means to an end, for a lack of a
better term, because obviously, the first two minutes into the
movie he's knocking boots with an airline attendant, so obviously
you know it is what it is. So I don't
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know if it's just a matter of him not knowing
how to open back up because it's been eight hundred years,
or they just really had shitty chemistry. I mean, you
can take it either way, and I'll leave that one
up to your interpretation.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Nick Well, I mean, I know it would be crazy
to say he's too old for her, because he's over
one hundred eight centuries old, but just even in his form,
he just looked to be a little bit too old
for her. Now who I'm not, you know, who am
I to judge? You know, if they ended up hooking
up and becoming a couple, I wouldn't can play and
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play fine, I get it, But to me, it seemed
more of a I know, it sounds it sounds very repetitive,
almost a older brother younger sister kind of relationship more
than anything sexual. Granted we don't know because we don't
have a sequel, but just they're they're back and forth,
you know, and even whenever, you know, they embrace or whatever,
it never seems that there's anything particularly sexual about it.
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Seems like, you know, either we're just very good friends
who will eventually become teammates, and we maybe have this
younger brother, older brother, younger sister thing going on. Even
by the end of it, you know, they don't share
a kiss. They just hop into the car and she says,
our drive and apparently is a pretty reckless driver from
what we can see. But it seems to me more
I mean, it could blossom into something, but I think
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they're Even the movie itselfully leaves us with something is
grown between the two, but a friendship being a partnership,
we don't know. But I was glad it didn't turn
into anything into the typical trophy hero meets person from
the other side. They end up becoming a couple, so
I'm glad they kept it open for other things of like,
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we don't just become best friends, or she might be
you know, you know, just as I said, like a
teammate an equal when it comes to that. Speaking of
the character of Colder, I mean, he's they pretty much
gave him everything and any other guy would want. I mean,
he's pretty much anything you would you know, I personally
would love to be. I mean, obviously you're incredibly strong,
good looking, charming, you know, and incredibly intelligent as well,
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because he's not just a muscle bound oath. He's a
great fighter. At the same time, he's incredibly clever, and
also that is a great detective because clearly his home
these skills over the centuries of learning about magic and
how to detect it, and obviously he's the expert when
it comes so that not just physically killing or fighting
witches in particular, but he just goes across the board.
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And the fact that he doesn't he prefers not to
kill unless there is a unless there is a near
and present threat like the witch Queen, I think also
shows you his moral compass, even though of course he's
been taught and had the experience that witches were evil
and and had to be destroyed. We learn, of course,
there's this partnership between the order that Colder serves and
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witches where they're supposed to live in partner, you know,
in peace. But if anybody strays and uses magic, they're
getting imprisoned. They don't get killed. So I like that
whole concept. And yes, and this Colder has a great
moral compass and is a great guy. He is a
good he's a good person who of course has lived
with this trauma for eight centuries of having lost his
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wife and child. It kind of reminded me a little
bit of Gladiator, the kind of relationship almost a Colder
and Chloe have kind of reminded me of the relationship
that you get in Gladiator. Where yes, in Gladiated they
might be, they might seem there's a little bit more
between the two, but he the character characters, both Maximus
and Colder have that similar baggage. So maybe even Colder
is not ready for another relationship, even though you know
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he'll sleep on and off with Stewardess's and it seems
that this is not not his first rodeo when it
comes to that. But like you said, maybe he doesn't
want the attachment because of what happened when he got
emotionally attached to someone other than you know, a just
a random affair or one night stands. But I appreciated
the character, and I think you make a great point
the fact that he's fixing watches is because probably they
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wanted that scene to show that time has no meaning
to him because he is immortal and because he has
seen what he has seen in so that's why I
guess what he does in his downtime when he's not
sleeping with stewardesses or trying to solve the next case.
And I also agree it was a bit of a
waste of a Michael Kaine, because Michael, for the most part,
is our info dump when it comes to telling us
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Colder's backstore, why we're here, and as I said before,
the pact between the witch community and these guys. But
other than that, he's supposed for the longest, you know,
until he snuffed it, or I thought to myself it
reminded me of like a Blade and Whistler relationship, where
granted Dolan doesn't necessarily make the gadgets for him, but
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it had that kind of It's almost like, like you said, Alfred,
it very much is that Alfred Bruce Wayne or even
Whistler Blade kind of relationship, and clearly they both care
about each other a lot. I did think it was
curious that Dolan kept telling Cold that you've never lived,
as in, you've been hell bent on dismission, but you
never lived. Even by the end of this movie, does
Coolder really learn to live? Not necessarily, because he keeps
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doing the same thing he does, except he's not alone.
So I guess to an extent he is following Dolan
the thirty six is advice, but at the same time
he's still doing what he's doing. He's like, ah, who
cares about the witch hunting business. I'm going to I'm
going to a random island retreat and kick back with
some mohitos and just enjoy life. He's not doing that.
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He maybe would have had he remained immortal, returned mortal,
then maybe he's like, Okay, I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna enjoy life because I've done what I've done. But
but yeah. And also the fact that every Dolan knew
about the fact that Colder's immortality was a trade off
of keeping of keeping the witch Queen's heart, because if
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you don't have that, Colder is no longer your weapon,
and that's why he's known as the weapon. And then Colder,
the fact that Colder learns that even Dolan the thirty
six was probably the closest Dolan he was, he was
he was too knows this, he doesn't necessarily get too
mad about it. I think he gets more mad at
Dolan the thirty seventh aka Elijah Woods character. But he
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was like, oh, everybody knew this and nobody told me
and he and I understand his frustration because it's like,
why I'm literally being used by organization to do their
dirty work for them. But then again, you have Chloe.
Chime in is going, we still need you because there's
still work to do, and I saw things that even
worse than the Witch Queen, and so Colder is like, Okay,
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we'll keep the heart. We don't know where the heart
is being kept by at this point, but I hope
it's somewhere safe. But of course that keeps Colder's immortality.
And my other big question was, I don't know how
Colder you that Chloe was called Chloe, because they never
have We don't ever have a form more introduction either.
He just knows because he's Colder. I guess Chloe, Yeah,
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she's She was obviously the represented representation of not not
everybody in the witch community are necessarily bad. And I
also think it was it was trying to give some
sens make people more, you know, sensitive, sensitive to witches
the way we know them today. I think a wickens,
for example, who feel incredibly offended when it comes to
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some of the media, which is shown when you portray
a witch as in the green skin and wearing a
pointy black hat and eating children, all kinds of things.
So I wonder whether Chloe was also supposed to show
us that that's a horrible stereotype and there are people
who do practice magic if you will, I eat folks
in the wicked community. And Chloe is supposed to tell
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us that because when she gives Colder her whole spew
about the ones who were burnt in Salem, or people
think where this and this and this. I think it
was a way to kind of make people more aware
of that idea. And I did like the character. I
do agree she does talk a little bit too much,
but like you said, she maybe it's that nervous talk,
maybe to fill in the silences, because Colder is not
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the most talkative of people, as most of these heroes
tend to be. But I did like the fact that
they grew on each other as things went by, and
she played an essential role, of course, in ultimately winning
the day and the fact that she is a dream
walk of course, becoming very, very handy when it comes
to their next adventures. So I was pleased with I
was pleased with that relationship, and I was bine large
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happy with everything aside from, like you said, Michael Kane
being incredibly underused. So I guess, then, is there anything
else you want to mention about these characters?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Keith? You brought up so many good points. I think
you go roll, You're more vicious than I was. But
you know, hey, I knew one of us was going
to tear these three apart because you know, they were
kind of blame ish.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
So yeah, in some form more shape, I guess. So
I suppose then let's pivot to team Witch Queen. We
have Julie Engelbrecht as the Witch Queen, Dowry Olaf Souls
as Belile, and Elijah would of course is done the
thirty seventh, So Keith, of course you gave your thoughts
on doing the thirty seventh, So what are your thoughts
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on Belio and the Witch Queen.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I would have actually liked to see a little bit
more of him. He pops up, you know, very sporadically,
and I get it. He's supposed to be the guy
behind the scenes, pulling the the threads as it were,
trying to you know, get the heart and redo this
whole ceremony and whatnot. But he's apparently been creeping around
for eight hundred years as well. What the hell's this
dude been doing and why hasn't Vin's character come across him?
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So it'd be interesting to know what he had been
up to. And granted it doesn't have to be like
this whole big, you know, like three hour dissertation, but
just like, why are you still alive? We saw you
in a flashback eight hundred years ago? How did you
survive to this point? You know, where you granted immortality
like the Witch King did with Vin's character character or
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some other Shenanigan. So I it was one of those
weird points that it just like just I wouldn't say
irritating me, but it's just I couldn't get past it.
I'm like, why are you still alive? When we see
this other scene with the witches at the fashion show
and they all looked like they were hit by a car,
and meanwhile you're sitting here being this total badass, which
I like the character. I thought he was really cool.
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I think he was he played the perfect henchman. You
weren't sure if he was going to be the lead
villain or he was a hench person, and he turned
out to be a hench guy, and you're like, all right,
I can see that it could go either way. And
I liked the Witch King her or Witch King which queen.
I like the makeup. The makeup was on point. I
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will give them credit. They did a fantastic job with
all those prosthetics and all the makeup, the mud, the
whole nine yards. It was very believable. I thought it
was awesome, and she was. You know, her argument wasn't
necessarily one hundred percent flawed, because you know, she made
the whole point that you know, we you know, lived
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in caves and you couldn't do shit, and blah blah
blah blahlah. She give all these valid arguments, so like,
I kind of understand her point of view. And if
they pushed came to show, they probably would have wiped
out the normal humans and they would just be magic
all over the world, which, to be fair, may not
actually be a bad thing. Like everybody just assumed that
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they were going to blow up the planet and just
kill mankind. But no, they just wanted to get rid
of all the muggles and just have the witch people
or people with magic abilities running the planet, which again,
not horrible, not terrible. A lot of them we saw
through this movie were doing you know, minor things. Again,
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Chloe had a bar, the other gentleman was doing the
psychedelic drugs for the cooking place, you know, the bakery
rather and they were all being relatively cool, normal people.
They all weren't trying to do world domination kind of crap.
It was just again the witch queen because she didn't
think the normals or the norms needed to survive. You know,
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we when we first meet her in the beginning of
this movie, they're hunting her down, so clearly something pop
off popped off. What that was they don't really talk about. Yes,
his wife and his daughter got killed. Was there a war,
was there some sort of famine? You know, just they
blamed her, but we don't know if that is valid because.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Then the plague she created or.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, but was it provoked? Was it just like a
shits and giggles kind of thing. You know, there had
to be a reason why She's like, I want to
wipe everybody off the face of the planet. I know
there was a plague, you know, that kind of stuff.
I just would have preferred to see a little bit
more than initial interaction. And then the jump forward in time,
we get a very short battle, and it's only through
that flashback that you see his original death and him
(27:33):
going all deadpool getting singed to a bone, which I
thought was kind of a cool effect, and then them
finding her heart and doing all this crazy stuff and
blah blah blah blah blah. Jump to present day again,
not one hundred percent wrong. She you know, if she
got to see the world in present time, she probably
been like, see, I was right, y'all, don't need to
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belong here. And because you know, Witchcraft and Madge probably
would have much better off than what some of these
people were doing. So I don't know, I'm kind of
team witch on this one. It's weird, but I kind of,
you know, agree with her argument because you know, people suck.
There's no nice way of saying it. And I appreciate
(28:16):
the fact that because her heart is tied to him,
that she could pop back up at any point in
the future. I will say. The only thing that I
don't know, for lack of bettermam annoyed me was she
pulled she gave him the immortality or passed it to him,
and that tied to her heart. She takes it back
(28:36):
from him and then he stabs her again and just
automatically goes back to him. Was like, but there was
no transfer, there was no like, she didn't punch a
hole in your chest and do the curse again. So
I don't understand why the curse just happened again. So
I feel like that was a little bit of laser writing,
but also a way to keep the character going if
they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I was thinking the same thing at this because Colder
explains to us in this movie that if you kill
whoever cast a spell will curse, that spell or curse
will cease to exist. And so I guess maybe their
wiggle room, they gave themselves some wiggle room with that
when it came to the fact that the Witch Queen
was never officially dead, and hence why even the second
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time that he kills her, the heart is still around,
so technically the curse has not been completely lifted. That's
my reasoning. I mean, as I said, it might have
been the writer's reasoning, like, how do we explain this?
I think that's probably the only at least in my mind,
the only possible explanation is that the curse caster was
not killed completely because obviously, had the had the heart
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been destroyed, I guess I don't know. We don't even
know this point whether Colder would even exist or whether
he would simply become mortal. I'm assuming he'd probably just
become mortal, and then we might not have had any
any further movies, even though it would have raised the
stakes a bit more because the fact that he can
be killed because for the longest time in this film,
with the character, with with the creatures and witches that
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he fights against, he doesn't really have to worry too
much about and outside of which is not I'm not
saying it's pleasant of a witches and magical people messing
with his mind because he can't physically be killed. So
and it's even mentioned him as like, you're so cavalier
because you can't die. So had he stayed mortal, it
maybe would have added more stakes. Granted, we don't know
(30:26):
how long he would have been able to carry on
the mission because he would have aged and what have you.
But that is you know, my possible theory on it
is that the Witch Queen was never ultimately destroyed even
in the first place, and hence the curse was never lifted,
so he retained his immortality. But you know, I could
be wrong. When it comes I agree with you, and
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when it comes to design of the Witch Queen, it
was really cool. And yes, when she made her whole
speech of people are terrible and they have to be
wiped out and so on, I can't blame her, and
I also agree. We know that that she started a
plague which killed tons of people, I'm assuming including Colder's
wife and child. But what was it that caused her
(31:09):
to create this plague? Did somebody deliver her horrible horrible milk?
Did did something? Did something really tick her off? Why
is she mad at man cut humankind? Is it because
she just feels their inferior kind of almost a weird
the superior race we should be the ones to reign supreme.
Or is it humans are horrible they have to be
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taking care of because they're literally ruining the ruining the
world for the rest of us. It's no, it's a
question that I don't think is ever really answered in this.
I mean, though we are we have this obviously assuming
this that the Witch Queen is the villain, it's never
so we don't really really get any clear answer of
somebody really really irked the Witch Queen off one day
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and shows you, and so she was like this one
person did this to me, so all humans are bad.
Therefore I'm taking my revenge and wiping out the entire race.
It's hard to say. So, yeah, obviously we're supose. Since
we're going a movie of good versus evil, she's supposed
to be the representation of evil. But we, as you said,
we don't know if maybe one of the villagers burnt
(32:13):
down her house or some kids throw rocks at her
at her windows. It's never explained. She only gives the
idea that humans are awful and they've never really evolved,
and there were cave men now and they're cave men now.
They were came men then the cave men now, So
we don't really get a full explanation. I agree with you,
it would have been nice to have had more of that. Butlile,
(32:34):
I thought was a big disappointment because I really thought
this was he was going to be, you know, sticking
around for longer. He was very menacing and I appreciated
him whenever he was on screen, but he is kind
of dealt with rather quickly by Colder. We literally throws
the knife with his neck. Boomy's dead, and that's it,
and then he gets kind of gets gets absorbed into
the tree. So I would have liked a little bit
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more of him because he seemed like, you know, he
was he was he was like he'd been plot this
for ages and this is how he goes out. So
I was a little bit disappointed with it with Elijah Wood,
like you mentioned earlier, with Dolan the thirty seventh, I
kind of got the vibe that he was the inside man,
that he was a mole, and he wasn't on the
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level when it came to being on Colder's side. And
I think Colder was almost onto him right from the
start because when they go and investigate Dolan the thirty
six is death, he looks at a Dolan on the
thirty seventh hand and he sees that it's scorched, and
his excuse is, I was in a burning house and
this is what happened to me. But it seemed for
(33:39):
the longest time that Colder wasn't buying it, and then
he was like, Okay, fine, I believe I believe you
because he had literally we learn rescued apparently Dolan from
witches and actually which he turned out to be his parents. Now,
I was not surprised when we got the heel turn ultimately,
but it was I also did was not surprised when
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the Witch Queen ultimately dealt with him, because she's like,
you can never be you can never be magical, We can't,
I can't give you magic. You're a human just like
the rest of them. And he meets his end, which
might also speak to the argument of the Witch Queen
just considering humans as inferior and so you can never
you can never do anything with them, and they just
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need to be destroyed. Once again, I would almost have
liked the origin story of the Witch Queen and why
she behaves this way, because we learned there are witches
and warlocks out there who are not necessarily out there
to kill humans. Granted them, there might be a fear
of Colder coming after them, but it seems like they're
not there to destroy humanity one because there's a pact
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and two because maybe they just don't feel they need
to do so. So it's this movie raises a lot
of questions. It pro raises more questions than answers if
you look kind of look beneath the surface of just
a good versus evil situation. So that's why part of
me almost wanted that you were saying either a prequel
or a TV show or even a sequel, but likely
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I don't see them revisiting the S franchise anytime soon,
So I guess then getting to a rating, I when
before we get to racing za Keith, was there anything
else you would like to add them on the bee?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
So I'm just gonna put this little wrinkle out there
because you kind of planted the seat in my head
is so like you're we mentioned his family was wiped
out by a plague that she theoretically created. You know,
the Black Plague was transmitted by rats, and they thought
everything was doing the Black plague, So for all we know,
it could have been the Black plague, and they just
because she's a witch, thought she did it. So she
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could have got the short end of the stick, like
you said, somebody could have kicked her when she was
a kid threw a rock at her. I thinking I'm
gonna go like the polar opposite is they're blaming her
for this plague, and since they were chasing her down
and killing all the witches, that's why she hates them
like this is they provoked her, and this is her response.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That's another great point, team, Which that's another great point
because you know, we we even get the call back
to the Salem witch Trials where people were literally burning
women at women at the stake, or hanging them or
doing all sorts of horrible things to them because they
thought that if there was a crop failure, it was
the witch's fault. If anam, if livestock died, it was
(36:22):
the witch's fault. And we also, you know, like you said,
great point because when we first see Colder, that was
still way back when when you would consider if things
went bad it was because of witches or some kind
of evil, evil, magical presence, the devil, or whatever. So
granted we learned that witches do exist in this universe,
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it could just be that that that's the witch Queen
did not necessarily initiate the plague, but but Colder in
the in the his fellow villagers thought that was the case,
and so off we go with the tiki torches and
the and the swords and everything to get rid of them.
So you bring up an excellent point. So I guess
then getting to ratings, what do you give the Last
(37:05):
Witch Hunter out of ten?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I don't know. It's not good, but it's not terrible.
Three mid range. I'm gonna have to give it a
seven point five. It's not you know, the special effects
are done very well, except for the CGR car at
the very end. You know her, the Witch Queen's costume
was amazing. It's all practical effects, and even a lot
(37:28):
of the other CGI was not horrific. So I'm gonna
go seven point five.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Great stuff. And we're definitely we're on the same page
on this one because I'm also going to give this
a seven and a half out of ten, as I
was expecting something incredibly clunky and incredibly cliche and incredibly kitchy,
but I think it tells a good story and I
can definitely see the potential for for the movies. It's
a shame we didn't get more, but it definitely exceeded
my expectations when I when I read the premise, so
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it's a seven and a half out of ten for
me as well. Getting to recommendations, Keith, is there anything
you'd like to recommend to the class if they indeed
enjoyed the last Witch Huns.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
It's gonna be a whole wheelhouse of weird randomness, but
it's all in that same kind of umbrella of lead
character and anti hero shenanigans. If you like this, I
would say check out hell Boy, but the Ron Peerlman
hell Boy, not that other train wreck that we got,
because he does a lot of you know, fighting the
big bads. The Witcher, which again is based on a
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video game and has done very well on Netflix and
has spawned what two movies and about a half dozen
of everything else. Uh, if you want campy John Carpenter's Vampires,
I saw this as came up under my recommendations. After
watching this, I'm like, yes, that reminds me of this.
And then on the cartoon front Castle Vania, all of
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them because there's two different shows or two different cartoons
that they have on Netflix. And then an old anime
from the nine and early two thousands called Trinity Blood
it's about vampires. And then if you like that, there's
also helsing.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Those are some fantastic, fantastic recommendations, and I can't but
agree with you when you mentioned Castlevania, because that show
was absolutely wonderful, both the original and Nocturn, which then
came out after it, So I can't but agree when
it comes to that. I would also add, since I
had alluded to it earlier, if you haven't seen it,
and I'd be surprised if you haven't. But then again, oh,
(39:30):
you know, I don't want to assume. I would suggest
the Blade movies, especially I think the first two, because
I know there are folks out there who do enjoy
Blade Trinity, Christine, if you're listening, I know you like it.
I'm not a fan of Blade Trinity, Christine, as you know,
neither am I, but I would definitely suggest Blade one
(39:51):
and two, especially when it comes to the relationship, as
I said before, between Whistler and Blade, which is probably
one of my favorite things about that movie those movies,
and plus it's Chris Christofferson who does an absolutely great,
great job when it comes to playing to playing that
particular character. So that's what I'm going to go with.
So of course, dear listeners. If you want to weigh
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here discussing witches, vampires and all sorts of mystical magical creatures,
(40:58):
where can folks find you?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
On the toa whips trying not to spontaneously combust going
out to my mailbox? Probably and when I'm not there, Man,
I've had a busy year this year. It's kind of crazy.
I did a couple episodes of Star Trek The Undiscovered podcast.
They just wrapped up their season finale. We did the
cold opener myself in another friend of ours. Then there
(41:20):
is obviously your show The gold Standard, which is entertaining
to do because that's where I get to be an
adult and talk about adult things. And then what else
I do? The Hour of Comics I had a random
reappearance this season, so yeah, I've been a little bit
of everywhere. Weirdly enough, I always joke and I said
this last time is for a guy who doesn't do
a lot of podcasting. I'm on a lot of podcasts
(41:42):
and then you can always find me on our Facebook page.
You can drop a message, comment, whatever the case may be.
I'm always ready, willingly be able to talk about anything, cartoons,
colic books, sci fi, lions, tigers, bears, oh my.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And you definitely should be on more podcasts regularly, as
you always bring you a game to any podcasts that
you're a part of. Speaking actually of the Hour comicses
upon us. Saya will soon be making my return to
said podcast as we will be reviewing in Infinity War,
the Infinity War comic from ninety two, so I'm looking
forward to discussing that with the boys. When it comes
(42:15):
to other than that. When it comes to my regular stuff,
you can find my day job hosting the radio show
Whiskey and Cigarettes, where we play the very best and
nothing but the best of country music for you guys
from Malabama to Zach Brown and of course from more
information about that was our website, which is of course
is Whiskey and Cigarettes Show dot com. Podcast Wise, as
(42:36):
Keith kindly mentioned, you can also find myself, Zan Sprouse
or Rachel Friend on gold Standard the Oscars podcast, where
we have reviewed all the Best Picture winning movies in
chronological order. As we wait for the ninety eighth Best
Picture to reveal itself, we are reviewing movies that we
have chosen. We also have returning in new guest co
hosts like Keith bring their favorite movies to the gold
Standard Theater. We recently reviewed Rachel's pick, which was Brinth
(43:00):
and coming up next we will be doing another bring
your Own Movie episode where Beth and Gallagher will be
returning to the podcast and the movie that she she
has selected for us is The White Reindeer from nineteen
fifty two, So Vampire Reindeers think about that and her
last but certainly not least myself and Charles Skaggs will
soon be returning to the bandam Zone podcast to review
(43:24):
the Second the second part of the Sandman series and
speinknings to come on this show. Our I guess venture
into Hunters of Monsters continues as coming up next, we
will be reviewing the twenty thirteen Tommy Virikola film Hansel
and Gretel Witch Hunters. Very original title. So keith anything
(43:45):
you'd like to add in an upcoming movie or anything
else before we sign off.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
This is gonna be a fun one. I own this movie.
I've wondered for several years now, so this is not
gonna be a first watch like this last one or
second first rewatch, I guess, depending on how you'll got it,
so it should be fine. It's an entertaining watch.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
So I've heard, I've always wanted to watch it, I've
never sat down to do so, so finally get the
chance to do so. So of course, Dearlizlers, thanks as
always listening show and supporting us. We'll see you next
time with Huntling Retel Witch Hunters. Until then, so much
for it, privilege your time, stay super Show. Mobby Ball
You have tasted more of life than I can ever imagine.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
But your story has no end. Do you know what
it's like to live forever?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Your immortality has made you the greatest soldier of the
Action Cross in a war between our world and the next.
I've waited my entire life for the opportunity to help you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And that's a chance to quick No, I want to
raise You're a dream walker, get a I need you
to take me to the dream world. It's the only
way to fight what's coming.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
If you die. In that.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He died and I need you to wake up.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You are.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you're not qualified for what happens next. The most
powerful witches that I've ever walked the earth are here
to destroy us and showy pickings. There's some very bad
things out there, Witches. You know what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Nothing, Charbie Ball and welcome to our two hundred and
ninety seventh episode of Happiness and Darkness, the Superior Movie
Podcast where we discuss superior movies Marvel, DC, dark Horse,
Image and Beyond. Naturally, there will be spoilers, folks, so
you have been warned. I'm one of your co hosts.
(01:49):
Did you Nick? And it's always joining me as my
superhero partner in crime, mister Keith for this, Hey Keith,
how are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, not too bad. I'm apparently currently living on
the surface of the sun. It's one hundred and ten
degrees out here in North Carolina, so I'm just trying
not to burst into flames.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You and me both. It seems like, I say, communal experience,
because it's pretty hot over here in Milan, Italy as well.
The air conditioning unfortunately is on more often than not.
But I am, of course also very lucky and blessed
I do have air conditioning. That said, today we are
discussing the Last witch Hunter from twenty fifteen, so this
(02:27):
movie officially is celebrating its tenth anniversary as of this recording.
This was directed by Breck Eisner. It was written by
Corey Goodman, Matts Osama and Burke Sharpless, while the score
was by Steve Yablonski. To put it in today's money,
this movie cost one hundred and twenty two million dollars
to make and made one hundred and ninety nine million
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at the box office, and apparently there have been talks
of a sequel for the last ten years, but we
haven't seen one that said Gedesig. The general impressions here, Keith,
you have mentioned to me are air that you had
seen this in bits and pieces, and this is the
first time I kind of sat through the entire thing.
What did you make? What did you make of it?
And my follow up question with Will said, b do
(03:09):
you think it deserves to see?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Apparently I must have like PTSD from this movie because
I blacked out and don't remember half of the movie,
or didn't remember half of the movie. It wasn't until
the last I don't know, fifteen minutes of the end,
towards the end, rather that I was like, Hey, I've
seen this movie before. That's how boring and paint by
numbers it is. It's not that anybody in this movie
is terrible, terrible per se. It's just it's a very
(03:34):
generic movie. I could rattle off about a dozen movies
that kind of fit into the same genre of tough
guy goes fight stuff, blah blah blah blah blah, rinse
and repeat. It's okay. I was actually talking about this before,
saying that this would have made a lot more sense
as a TV series, just for the fact that There
(03:56):
are so many moving parts in this movie where they
just make them throw away comment and you're like, okay,
you just I should know what that means. And then
they just keep going and you're like, but what about
this enclave or why are these people? Or like how
did we get here? And why does it look like
the you know, scorched Earth under a church man. We're
not gonna talk about any of this stuff. It's not relevant,
you know, but it is because this is where the
(04:18):
story takes place. So I feel like this would definitely
or could warrant a TV series opposed to like a sequel,
unless the sequel really delved into a lot of the
details that they left out during this first one. The
problem is, as you said, it's over a decade old,
and this guy's supposed to be a moral while Vin
(04:39):
Diesel is getting older and he's clearly aging. So unless
they plan on deaging his character, which is possible, it's
just going to really ruin the continuity. It's almost like
a they tried to do Highlander but forgot that the
character can age. So I think the premise is sound,
I just don't know how they're really gonna go about
(04:59):
executing it.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know what. This was the first time I sat
down to watch this, and I totally understand get when
you say this film fuse a little generic, because you know,
when we loved Last Year and we talked about Van Helsing,
which was in two thousand and four, it seemed like
for quite a while the two thousands were dominated by
films of this ilk where you had, like you said,
this kind of dark, brooding, muscle bound character who would
(05:25):
take on supernatural forces, and of course you would have
a love interest or potential love interest, whether Chloe's love
interest will get to when we get to the characters,
and of course and everything that goes with that, you know,
from vampire hunting to witch hunting to all sorts of things.
So this is nothing new. What I did appreciate about
this one was some some of the law that they
dived into as we went along. I mean, we had
(05:47):
a bit of an info dump from Dolan, the thirty
six ak Michael Kaine pretty much like fifteen or twenty
minutes into the movie, after we get to see you
know why Colder is you know now immortal and I
love I really enjoyed the premise because I like the
whole concept of almost say knights templar kind of situation.
They're then going on for ages and their job is
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to literally rid the world of monsters or anything that
is a potential threat to humanity. At the same time,
the Church does not come out particularly well from this film.
So I wonder whether our writers were rather anti clerical
when it came to their thoughts, as we will of
course discussed when it comes to the Dolans and the Church,
or maybe it raises the question of sometimes you have
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to do bad things in order to preserve the world.
It's like, maybe you have to make some sacrifices which
are not particularly proud of, but you have to do
those in order for mankind, to humankind for that matter,
to survive and keep going. So I think it does
pose that interesting question as much as it, as I
said before, it does come across as rather anti clerical
(06:53):
for the most part. And all the secrets, you know,
because everybody talks often about the secrets that the Vatican
might be hiding, and I think this stuates that concept
in this film. I agree with you. I don't think
there were any bad performances. There were some predictable ones
when it came to certain characters where I immediately I
will think to myself, hmm, he or she does not
seem particularly on the level. And no surprise, they were
(07:14):
not looking at you, Elijah Wood and that said. But
but other than that, I thought it told a good story.
And yes, clearly you could tell by the end they
were hoping possibly and we've said this before, and we
talked about other movies that maybe did not fare too
well that they wanted to maybe make more of these,
And clearly, when the ending comes around, it's evident that
they left it open enough for sequels, even though, as
(07:38):
I said before, there have been talks for a sequel
since pretty much this movie came out. Nothing as serviced
since then. Whether they will do a reboot or whether
they will revisit it is anybody's guest. But other than that,
I enjoyed my time with this film. Let's say, even
though I had some questions. I mean, and this is
a very petty thing of mine, is we're never told
(07:59):
where we are. Granted in the credits we learn it's Pittsburgh.
I believe because of the end credits tell us that
it was filmed on location in Pittsburgh. I wouldn't have
minded a little title card saying Pittsburgh nineteen fifty four
or whatever, but they don't tell you. Maybe because I'm
(08:19):
not American, I didn't recognize Pittsburgh. Maybe you might have.
I don't know, but I would have. It would have
been nice to know, since they said it was shot
on location in Pittsburgh, so I'm assuming we're supposed to
be in an American city. But and in fact, that's
another question I had for you. Could you tell that
this was Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Not necessarily, I could tell it was a US city.
I think what really kind of screwed everything up was
the fact that Vin Diesel and Elijah Wood, how little
he was on screen, were the only two American actors.
Everybody else had some accent from other areas of the world.
He's driving an Austin Martin, so that doesn't help. I mean,
I guess if you paid attention to the license plate,
(09:00):
you would know where they were. But that's such a
randow small detail that gets lost in everything else that
you don't go, oh, hey, look that's Pittsburgh because of
license plates, is PA or whatever the case may be.
So I'm not a big from New York, New Jersey.
I know, the New York Skyline like the back of
my hand, Pittsburgh and don't guys, don't kill me. But
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Pittsburgh is kind of generic looking other than certain buildings.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's why I guess maybe they chose Pittsburgh. And no
offense to any any listeners out there who hail from
from said city. But I guess they were like, do
we want to make this look like it could It
could happen in any American city. But you know, that
was just a small gripe of mind. But thanks to credits,
I learned.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Where it was shot.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So let's get to our characters on the board. Kicking
off with Team Colder, we have, of course Vin Diesel
as Colder, Rose Leslie as Chloe, and Michael Caine as
though than the thirty sixth So what did you make
of Team Colder, Keith.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, I'll start with the thirty six just because it's
Michael Kain and he deserves top billing. He was such
a wasted resource. I'm sorry, but he's in two minutes
of the movie or five minutes of the movie if
you really want to be you know, argue, argue about it.
But he dies and everyone's like, oh, Okay, he's dead. Like,
nobody researches this, nobody looks into this any for the
nobody from the church or this organization that he's a
(10:23):
member of. Nothing. Everyone's like, Okay, he just died in
his sleep. We're cool. Done. Vin Diesel's character walks in,
spills some cigarette ash or some other magic crap on
the floor, and all of a sudden, he's like, look
all this Shenanigans, Like seriously, you're telling me this super
secret organization doesn't have investigators for crap like this. So
I felt like that was very lazy writing, just to
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be like, hey, we have this, you know, really big actor,
Michael Kine, and now he's dead, so we're gonna replace
him with this other character. And you'll see Michael Kaine's
body in random scenes during the movie, but he really
has no great impact until the very end of the movie,
and that's like the last two again, the last two
minutes of the movie. So I feel like his character
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was very underutilized, and I'm disappointed because it's freaking Michael Kine, Like,
you got Michael Kine to do some rando partner movie,
use him. He was freaking out for him. Baman he
was awesome, you know. But that being said, I know
they had to they need a mcguffin to kind of
move the story along. And guess, guys, I know I
used the word mcguffin a lot, but that's a lot
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of these stories are like that. Elijah Wood's character was Okay,
it was he was very two dimensional. He was not
a surprise at the very end when he turned and
was like I'm the bad guy blah blah blah blah blah,
and you're like, all right, great, we knew this. Everybody
could tell this. What I thought was really dumb is
his logic for switching sides to you know, because his
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parents were witches and he was born with that magic,
so he thought if he, I don't know, made good
friends with the witch queen, she was going to magically
imbue him with power. But he should have known better
because he's in an organization that kills witches and supernatural
crap that that's not a thing. So I felt like
that was a really lame or weak excuse, Like if
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he said he was a witch or warlock, will and
been like, okay, that makes sense, perfect sense, one hundred percent.
He's like my mommy, and Daddy were witches, and I
don't have power, so I want to join the witch side, Like,
but you're not a witch, you're a human. And I
appreciate the fact that she even tells him. He's like,
you can't make gold at a clay. I think she
says or something to that effect, and then kills him immediately,
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and I'm like, see, she even like she's supposed to
be the all powerful and told you to kick rocks,
so I kind of thought he got his just deserts.
Vin Diesel's character was interesting, boring ish, if that makes
any sense. When he's fighting, you know, he's all about
the fighting, but his downtime was very lame. He's sitting
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there working on a watch, and I get it, it's
supposed to time doesn't pass for him, or he doesn't,
you know, acknowledge time passing because he's functioning an immortal.
But out of all the hobbies he could have, he's like,
I'm gonna work on watches and you know, help build
model boats or something. I don't know. I just there
was a scene that wasn't necessarily needed in the movie,
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didn't show anything, it didn't help the story at all.
It's just one of those like waste of time. I
appreciated him going to what's her name, Chloe's bar and
that hole, going down that rabbit hole of trying to
find her his memories or remember his original memories, and
that's how he, excuse me, brought her into the fold
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of the craziness. And her character was okay. I think
she talked a little too much, but it felt like
it was more. And if anybody knows or has this
type of habit, it's a nervous talking like she's nervous
or like freaking out and she's trying to calm herself down,
and she's just rambling on about missling in his crap
or just whatever the case may be. And you can
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see that in certain scenes after he finds out she's
a dream walker, and another scene kind of that same
vibe or energy was given off. I don't know until
the very end, you're not one hundred percent that there's
attraction between the two of them, And I don't know
if that's for a lack of chemistry or it's just
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his character. He doesn't he isn't attached to the opposite
sex like he used to because his original wife and
child were dead and everybody else is just kind of
a means to an end, for a lack of a
better term, because obviously, the first two minutes into the
movie he's knocking boots with an airline attendant, so obviously
you know it is what it is. So I don't
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know if it's just a matter of him not knowing
how to open back up because it's been eight hundred years,
or they just really had shitty chemistry. I mean, you
can take it either way, and I'll leave that one
up to your interpretation.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Nick Well, I mean, I know it would be crazy
to say he's too old for her, because he's over
one hundred eight centuries old, but just even in his form,
he just looked to be a little bit too old
for her. Now who I'm not, you know, who am
I to judge? You know, if they ended up hooking
up and becoming a couple, I wouldn't can play and
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play fine, I get it, But to me, it seemed
more of a I know, it sounds it sounds very repetitive,
almost a older brother younger sister kind of relationship more
than anything sexual. Granted we don't know because we don't
have a sequel, but just they're they're back and forth,
you know, and even whenever, you know, they embrace or whatever,
it never seems that there's anything particularly sexual about it.
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Seems like, you know, either we're just very good friends
who will eventually become teammates, and we maybe have this
younger brother, older brother, younger sister thing going on. Even
by the end of it, you know, they don't share
a kiss. They just hop into the car and she says,
our drive and apparently is a pretty reckless driver from
what we can see. But it seems to me more
I mean, it could blossom into something, but I think
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they're Even the movie itselfully leaves us with something is
grown between the two, but a friendship being a partnership,
we don't know. But I was glad it didn't turn
into anything into the typical trophy hero meets person from
the other side. They end up becoming a couple, so
I'm glad they kept it open for other things of like,
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we don't just become best friends, or she might be
you know, you know, just as I said, like a
teammate an equal when it comes to that. Speaking of
the character of Colder, I mean, he's they pretty much
gave him everything and any other guy would want. I mean,
he's pretty much anything you would you know, I personally
would love to be. I mean, obviously you're incredibly strong,
good looking, charming, you know, and incredibly intelligent as well,
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because he's not just a muscle bound oath. He's a
great fighter. At the same time, he's incredibly clever, and
also that is a great detective because clearly his home
these skills over the centuries of learning about magic and
how to detect it, and obviously he's the expert when
it comes so that not just physically killing or fighting
witches in particular, but he just goes across the board.
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And the fact that he doesn't he prefers not to
kill unless there is a unless there is a near
and present threat like the witch Queen, I think also
shows you his moral compass, even though of course he's
been taught and had the experience that witches were evil
and and had to be destroyed. We learn, of course,
there's this partnership between the order that Colder serves and
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witches where they're supposed to live in partner, you know,
in peace. But if anybody strays and uses magic, they're
getting imprisoned. They don't get killed. So I like that
whole concept. And yes, and this Colder has a great
moral compass and is a great guy. He is a
good he's a good person who of course has lived
with this trauma for eight centuries of having lost his
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wife and child. It kind of reminded me a little
bit of Gladiator, the kind of relationship almost a Colder
and Chloe have kind of reminded me of the relationship
that you get in Gladiator. Where yes, in Gladiated they
might be, they might seem there's a little bit more
between the two, but he the character characters, both Maximus
and Colder have that similar baggage. So maybe even Colder
is not ready for another relationship, even though you know
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he'll sleep on and off with Stewardess's and it seems
that this is not not his first rodeo when it
comes to that. But like you said, maybe he doesn't
want the attachment because of what happened when he got
emotionally attached to someone other than you know, a just
a random affair or one night stands. But I appreciated
the character, and I think you make a great point
the fact that he's fixing watches is because probably they
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wanted that scene to show that time has no meaning
to him because he is immortal and because he has
seen what he has seen in so that's why I
guess what he does in his downtime when he's not
sleeping with stewardesses or trying to solve the next case.
And I also agree it was a bit of a
waste of a Michael Kaine, because Michael, for the most part,
is our info dump when it comes to telling us
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Colder's backstore, why we're here, and as I said before,
the pact between the witch community and these guys. But
other than that, he's supposed for the longest, you know,
until he snuffed it, or I thought to myself it
reminded me of like a Blade and Whistler relationship, where
granted Dolan doesn't necessarily make the gadgets for him, but
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it had that kind of It's almost like, like you said, Alfred,
it very much is that Alfred Bruce Wayne or even
Whistler Blade kind of relationship, and clearly they both care
about each other a lot. I did think it was
curious that Dolan kept telling Cold that you've never lived,
as in, you've been hell bent on dismission, but you
never lived. Even by the end of this movie, does
Coolder really learn to live? Not necessarily, because he keeps
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doing the same thing he does, except he's not alone.
So I guess to an extent he is following Dolan
the thirty six is advice, but at the same time
he's still doing what he's doing. He's like, ah, who
cares about the witch hunting business. I'm going to I'm
going to a random island retreat and kick back with
some mohitos and just enjoy life. He's not doing that.
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He maybe would have had he remained immortal, returned mortal,
then maybe he's like, Okay, I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna enjoy life because I've done what I've done. But
but yeah. And also the fact that every Dolan knew
about the fact that Colder's immortality was a trade off
of keeping of keeping the witch Queen's heart, because if
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you don't have that, Colder is no longer your weapon,
and that's why he's known as the weapon. And then Colder,
the fact that Colder learns that even Dolan the thirty
six was probably the closest Dolan he was, he was
he was too knows this, he doesn't necessarily get too
mad about it. I think he gets more mad at
Dolan the thirty seventh aka Elijah Woods character. But he
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was like, oh, everybody knew this and nobody told me
and he and I understand his frustration because it's like,
why I'm literally being used by organization to do their
dirty work for them. But then again, you have Chloe.
Chime in is going, we still need you because there's
still work to do, and I saw things that even
worse than the Witch Queen, and so Colder is like, Okay,
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we'll keep the heart. We don't know where the heart
is being kept by at this point, but I hope
it's somewhere safe. But of course that keeps Colder's immortality.
And my other big question was, I don't know how
Colder you that Chloe was called Chloe, because they never
have We don't ever have a form more introduction either.
He just knows because he's Colder. I guess Chloe, Yeah,
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she's She was obviously the represented representation of not not
everybody in the witch community are necessarily bad. And I
also think it was it was trying to give some
sens make people more, you know, sensitive, sensitive to witches
the way we know them today. I think a wickens,
for example, who feel incredibly offended when it comes to
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some of the media, which is shown when you portray
a witch as in the green skin and wearing a
pointy black hat and eating children, all kinds of things.
So I wonder whether Chloe was also supposed to show
us that that's a horrible stereotype and there are people
who do practice magic if you will, I eat folks
in the wicked community. And Chloe is supposed to tell
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us that because when she gives Colder her whole spew
about the ones who were burnt in Salem, or people
think where this and this and this. I think it
was a way to kind of make people more aware
of that idea. And I did like the character. I
do agree she does talk a little bit too much,
but like you said, she maybe it's that nervous talk,
maybe to fill in the silences, because Colder is not
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the most talkative of people, as most of these heroes
tend to be. But I did like the fact that
they grew on each other as things went by, and
she played an essential role, of course, in ultimately winning
the day and the fact that she is a dream
walk of course, becoming very, very handy when it comes
to their next adventures. So I was pleased with I
was pleased with that relationship, and I was bine large
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happy with everything aside from, like you said, Michael Kane
being incredibly underused. So I guess, then, is there anything
else you want to mention about these characters?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Keith? You brought up so many good points. I think
you go roll, You're more vicious than I was. But
you know, hey, I knew one of us was going
to tear these three apart because you know, they were
kind of blame ish.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
So yeah, in some form more shape, I guess. So
I suppose then let's pivot to team Witch Queen. We
have Julie Engelbrecht as the Witch Queen, Dowry Olaf Souls
as Belile, and Elijah would of course is done the
thirty seventh, So Keith, of course you gave your thoughts
on doing the thirty seventh, So what are your thoughts
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on Belio and the Witch Queen.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I would have actually liked to see a little bit
more of him. He pops up, you know, very sporadically,
and I get it. He's supposed to be the guy
behind the scenes, pulling the the threads as it were,
trying to you know, get the heart and redo this
whole ceremony and whatnot. But he's apparently been creeping around
for eight hundred years as well. What the hell's this
dude been doing and why hasn't Vin's character come across him?
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So it'd be interesting to know what he had been
up to. And granted it doesn't have to be like
this whole big, you know, like three hour dissertation, but
just like, why are you still alive? We saw you
in a flashback eight hundred years ago? How did you
survive to this point? You know, where you granted immortality
like the Witch King did with Vin's character character or
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some other Shenanigan. So I it was one of those
weird points that it just like just I wouldn't say
irritating me, but it's just I couldn't get past it.
I'm like, why are you still alive? When we see
this other scene with the witches at the fashion show
and they all looked like they were hit by a car,
and meanwhile you're sitting here being this total badass, which
I like the character. I thought he was really cool.
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I think he was he played the perfect henchman. You
weren't sure if he was going to be the lead
villain or he was a hench person, and he turned
out to be a hench guy, and you're like, all right,
I can see that it could go either way. And
I liked the Witch King her or Witch King which queen.
I like the makeup. The makeup was on point. I
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will give them credit. They did a fantastic job with
all those prosthetics and all the makeup, the mud, the
whole nine yards. It was very believable. I thought it
was awesome, and she was. You know, her argument wasn't
necessarily one hundred percent flawed, because you know, she made
the whole point that you know, we you know, lived
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in caves and you couldn't do shit, and blah blah
blah blahlah. She give all these valid arguments, so like,
I kind of understand her point of view. And if
they pushed came to show, they probably would have wiped
out the normal humans and they would just be magic
all over the world, which, to be fair, may not
actually be a bad thing. Like everybody just assumed that
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they were going to blow up the planet and just
kill mankind. But no, they just wanted to get rid
of all the muggles and just have the witch people
or people with magic abilities running the planet, which again,
not horrible, not terrible. A lot of them we saw
through this movie were doing you know, minor things. Again,
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Chloe had a bar, the other gentleman was doing the
psychedelic drugs for the cooking place, you know, the bakery
rather and they were all being relatively cool, normal people.
They all weren't trying to do world domination kind of crap.
It was just again the witch queen because she didn't
think the normals or the norms needed to survive. You know,
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we when we first meet her in the beginning of
this movie, they're hunting her down, so clearly something pop
off popped off. What that was they don't really talk about. Yes,
his wife and his daughter got killed. Was there a war,
was there some sort of famine? You know, just they
blamed her, but we don't know if that is valid because.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Then the plague she created or.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, but was it provoked? Was it just like a
shits and giggles kind of thing. You know, there had
to be a reason why She's like, I want to
wipe everybody off the face of the planet. I know
there was a plague, you know, that kind of stuff.
I just would have preferred to see a little bit
more than initial interaction. And then the jump forward in time,
we get a very short battle, and it's only through
that flashback that you see his original death and him
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going all deadpool getting singed to a bone, which I
thought was kind of a cool effect, and then them
finding her heart and doing all this crazy stuff and
blah blah blah blah blah. Jump to present day again,
not one hundred percent wrong. She you know, if she
got to see the world in present time, she probably
been like, see, I was right, y'all, don't need to
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belong here. And because you know, Witchcraft and Madge probably
would have much better off than what some of these
people were doing. So I don't know, I'm kind of
team witch on this one. It's weird, but I kind of,
you know, agree with her argument because you know, people suck.
There's no nice way of saying it. And I appreciate
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the fact that because her heart is tied to him,
that she could pop back up at any point in
the future. I will say. The only thing that I
don't know, for lack of bettermam annoyed me was she
pulled she gave him the immortality or passed it to him,
and that tied to her heart. She takes it back
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from him and then he stabs her again and just
automatically goes back to him. Was like, but there was
no transfer, there was no like, she didn't punch a
hole in your chest and do the curse again. So
I don't understand why the curse just happened again. So
I feel like that was a little bit of laser writing,
but also a way to keep the character going if
they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I was thinking the same thing at this because Colder
explains to us in this movie that if you kill
whoever cast a spell will curse, that spell or curse
will cease to exist. And so I guess maybe their
wiggle room, they gave themselves some wiggle room with that
when it came to the fact that the Witch Queen
was never officially dead, and hence why even the second
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time that he kills her, the heart is still around,
so technically the curse has not been completely lifted. That's
my reasoning. I mean, as I said, it might have
been the writer's reasoning, like, how do we explain this?
I think that's probably the only at least in my mind,
the only possible explanation is that the curse caster was
not killed completely because obviously, had the had the heart
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been destroyed, I guess I don't know. We don't even
know this point whether Colder would even exist or whether
he would simply become mortal. I'm assuming he'd probably just
become mortal, and then we might not have had any
any further movies, even though it would have raised the
stakes a bit more because the fact that he can
be killed because for the longest time in this film,
with the character, with with the creatures and witches that
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he fights against, he doesn't really have to worry too
much about and outside of which is not I'm not
saying it's pleasant of a witches and magical people messing
with his mind because he can't physically be killed. So
and it's even mentioned him as like, you're so cavalier
because you can't die. So had he stayed mortal, it
maybe would have added more stakes. Granted, we don't know
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how long he would have been able to carry on
the mission because he would have aged and what have you.
But that is you know, my possible theory on it
is that the Witch Queen was never ultimately destroyed even
in the first place, and hence the curse was never lifted,
so he retained his immortality. But you know, I could
be wrong. When it comes I agree with you, and
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when it comes to design of the Witch Queen, it
was really cool. And yes, when she made her whole
speech of people are terrible and they have to be
wiped out and so on, I can't blame her, and
I also agree. We know that that she started a
plague which killed tons of people, I'm assuming including Colder's
wife and child. But what was it that caused her
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to create this plague? Did somebody deliver her horrible horrible milk?
Did did something? Did something really tick her off? Why
is she mad at man cut humankind? Is it because
she just feels their inferior kind of almost a weird
the superior race we should be the ones to reign supreme.
Or is it humans are horrible they have to be
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taking care of because they're literally ruining the ruining the
world for the rest of us. It's no, it's a
question that I don't think is ever really answered in this.
I mean, though we are we have this obviously assuming
this that the Witch Queen is the villain, it's never
so we don't really really get any clear answer of
somebody really really irked the Witch Queen off one day
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and shows you, and so she was like this one
person did this to me, so all humans are bad.
Therefore I'm taking my revenge and wiping out the entire race.
It's hard to say. So, yeah, obviously we're supose. Since
we're going a movie of good versus evil, she's supposed
to be the representation of evil. But we, as you said,
we don't know if maybe one of the villagers burnt
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down her house or some kids throw rocks at her
at her windows. It's never explained. She only gives the
idea that humans are awful and they've never really evolved,
and there were cave men now and they're cave men now.
They were came men then the cave men now, So
we don't really get a full explanation. I agree with you,
it would have been nice to have had more of that. Butlile,
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I thought was a big disappointment because I really thought
this was he was going to be, you know, sticking
around for longer. He was very menacing and I appreciated
him whenever he was on screen, but he is kind
of dealt with rather quickly by Colder. We literally throws
the knife with his neck. Boomy's dead, and that's it,
and then he gets kind of gets gets absorbed into
the tree. So I would have liked a little bit
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more of him because he seemed like, you know, he
was he was he was like he'd been plot this
for ages and this is how he goes out. So
I was a little bit disappointed with it with Elijah Wood,
like you mentioned earlier, with Dolan the thirty seventh, I
kind of got the vibe that he was the inside man,
that he was a mole, and he wasn't on the
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level when it came to being on Colder's side. And
I think Colder was almost onto him right from the
start because when they go and investigate Dolan the thirty
six is death, he looks at a Dolan on the
thirty seventh hand and he sees that it's scorched, and
his excuse is, I was in a burning house and
this is what happened to me. But it seemed for
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the longest time that Colder wasn't buying it, and then
he was like, Okay, fine, I believe I believe you
because he had literally we learn rescued apparently Dolan from
witches and actually which he turned out to be his parents. Now,
I was not surprised when we got the heel turn ultimately,
but it was I also did was not surprised when
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the Witch Queen ultimately dealt with him, because she's like,
you can never be you can never be magical, We can't,
I can't give you magic. You're a human just like
the rest of them. And he meets his end, which
might also speak to the argument of the Witch Queen
just considering humans as inferior and so you can never
you can never do anything with them, and they just
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need to be destroyed. Once again, I would almost have
liked the origin story of the Witch Queen and why
she behaves this way, because we learned there are witches
and warlocks out there who are not necessarily out there
to kill humans. Granted them, there might be a fear
of Colder coming after them, but it seems like they're
not there to destroy humanity one because there's a pact
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and two because maybe they just don't feel they need
to do so. So it's this movie raises a lot
of questions. It pro raises more questions than answers if
you look kind of look beneath the surface of just
a good versus evil situation. So that's why part of
me almost wanted that you were saying either a prequel
or a TV show or even a sequel, but likely
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I don't see them revisiting the S franchise anytime soon,
So I guess then getting to a rating, I when
before we get to racing za Keith, was there anything
else you would like to add them on the bee?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
So I'm just gonna put this little wrinkle out there
because you kind of planted the seat in my head
is so like you're we mentioned his family was wiped
out by a plague that she theoretically created. You know,
the Black Plague was transmitted by rats, and they thought
everything was doing the Black plague, So for all we know,
it could have been the Black plague, and they just
because she's a witch, thought she did it. So she
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could have got the short end of the stick, like
you said, somebody could have kicked her when she was
a kid threw a rock at her. I thinking I'm
gonna go like the polar opposite is they're blaming her
for this plague, and since they were chasing her down
and killing all the witches, that's why she hates them
like this is they provoked her, and this is her response.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That's another great point, team, Which that's another great point
because you know, we we even get the call back
to the Salem witch Trials where people were literally burning
women at women at the stake, or hanging them or
doing all sorts of horrible things to them because they
thought that if there was a crop failure, it was
the witch's fault. If anam, if livestock died, it was
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the witch's fault. And we also, you know, like you said,
great point because when we first see Colder, that was
still way back when when you would consider if things
went bad it was because of witches or some kind
of evil, evil, magical presence, the devil, or whatever. So
granted we learned that witches do exist in this universe,
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it could just be that that that's the witch Queen
did not necessarily initiate the plague, but but Colder in
the in the his fellow villagers thought that was the case,
and so off we go with the tiki torches and
the and the swords and everything to get rid of them.
So you bring up an excellent point. So I guess
then getting to ratings, what do you give the Last
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Witch Hunter out of ten?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I don't know. It's not good, but it's not terrible.
Three mid range. I'm gonna have to give it a
seven point five. It's not you know, the special effects
are done very well, except for the CGR car at
the very end. You know her, the Witch Queen's costume
was amazing. It's all practical effects, and even a lot
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of the other CGI was not horrific. So I'm gonna
go seven point five.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Great stuff. And we're definitely we're on the same page
on this one because I'm also going to give this
a seven and a half out of ten, as I
was expecting something incredibly clunky and incredibly cliche and incredibly kitchy,
but I think it tells a good story and I
can definitely see the potential for for the movies. It's
a shame we didn't get more, but it definitely exceeded
my expectations when I when I read the premise, so
(37:56):
it's a seven and a half out of ten for
me as well. Getting to recommendations, Keith, is there anything
you'd like to recommend to the class if they indeed
enjoyed the last Witch Huns.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
It's gonna be a whole wheelhouse of weird randomness, but
it's all in that same kind of umbrella of lead
character and anti hero shenanigans. If you like this, I
would say check out hell Boy, but the Ron Peerlman
hell Boy, not that other train wreck that we got,
because he does a lot of you know, fighting the
big bads. The Witcher, which again is based on a
(38:31):
video game and has done very well on Netflix and
has spawned what two movies and about a half dozen
of everything else. Uh, if you want campy John Carpenter's Vampires,
I saw this as came up under my recommendations. After
watching this, I'm like, yes, that reminds me of this.
And then on the cartoon front Castle Vania, all of
(38:54):
them because there's two different shows or two different cartoons
that they have on Netflix. And then an old anime
from the nine and early two thousands called Trinity Blood
it's about vampires. And then if you like that, there's
also helsing.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Those are some fantastic, fantastic recommendations, and I can't but
agree with you when you mentioned Castlevania, because that show
was absolutely wonderful, both the original and Nocturn, which then
came out after it, So I can't but agree when
it comes to that. I would also add, since I
had alluded to it earlier, if you haven't seen it,
and I'd be surprised if you haven't. But then again, oh,
(39:30):
you know, I don't want to assume. I would suggest
the Blade movies, especially I think the first two, because
I know there are folks out there who do enjoy
Blade Trinity, Christine, if you're listening, I know you like it.
I'm not a fan of Blade Trinity, Christine, as you know,
neither am I, but I would definitely suggest Blade one
(39:51):
and two, especially when it comes to the relationship, as
I said before, between Whistler and Blade, which is probably
one of my favorite things about that movie those movies,
and plus it's Chris Christofferson who does an absolutely great,
great job when it comes to playing to playing that
particular character. So that's what I'm going to go with.
So of course, dear listeners. If you want to weigh
(40:14):
in on the films we discuss here, you can, of
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(40:37):
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you to those who will so Keith. When you're not
here discussing witches, vampires and all sorts of mystical magical creatures,
(40:58):
where can folks find you?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
On the toa whips trying not to spontaneously combust going
out to my mailbox? Probably and when I'm not there, Man,
I've had a busy year this year. It's kind of crazy.
I did a couple episodes of Star Trek The Undiscovered podcast.
They just wrapped up their season finale. We did the
cold opener myself in another friend of ours. Then there
(41:20):
is obviously your show The gold Standard, which is entertaining
to do because that's where I get to be an
adult and talk about adult things. And then what else
I do? The Hour of Comics I had a random
reappearance this season, so yeah, I've been a little bit
of everywhere. Weirdly enough, I always joke and I said
this last time is for a guy who doesn't do
a lot of podcasting. I'm on a lot of podcasts
(41:42):
and then you can always find me on our Facebook page.
You can drop a message, comment, whatever the case may be.
I'm always ready, willingly be able to talk about anything, cartoons,
colic books, sci fi, lions, tigers, bears, oh my.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And you definitely should be on more podcasts regularly, as
you always bring you a game to any podcasts that
you're a part of. Speaking actually of the Hour comicses
upon us. Saya will soon be making my return to
said podcast as we will be reviewing in Infinity War,
the Infinity War comic from ninety two, so I'm looking
forward to discussing that with the boys. When it comes
(42:15):
to other than that. When it comes to my regular stuff,
you can find my day job hosting the radio show
Whiskey and Cigarettes, where we play the very best and
nothing but the best of country music for you guys
from Malabama to Zach Brown and of course from more
information about that was our website, which is of course
is Whiskey and Cigarettes Show dot com. Podcast Wise, as
(42:36):
Keith kindly mentioned, you can also find myself, Zan Sprouse
or Rachel Friend on gold Standard the Oscars podcast, where
we have reviewed all the Best Picture winning movies in
chronological order. As we wait for the ninety eighth Best
Picture to reveal itself, we are reviewing movies that we
have chosen. We also have returning in new guest co
hosts like Keith bring their favorite movies to the gold
Standard Theater. We recently reviewed Rachel's pick, which was Brinth
(43:00):
and coming up next we will be doing another bring
your Own Movie episode where Beth and Gallagher will be
returning to the podcast and the movie that she she
has selected for us is The White Reindeer from nineteen
fifty two, So Vampire Reindeers think about that and her
last but certainly not least myself and Charles Skaggs will
soon be returning to the bandam Zone podcast to review
(43:24):
the Second the second part of the Sandman series and
speinknings to come on this show. Our I guess venture
into Hunters of Monsters continues as coming up next, we
will be reviewing the twenty thirteen Tommy Virikola film Hansel
and Gretel Witch Hunters. Very original title. So keith anything
(43:45):
you'd like to add in an upcoming movie or anything
else before we sign off.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
This is gonna be a fun one. I own this movie.
I've wondered for several years now, so this is not
gonna be a first watch like this last one or
second first rewatch, I guess, depending on how you'll got it,
so it should be fine. It's an entertaining watch.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
So I've heard, I've always wanted to watch it, I've
never sat down to do so, so finally get the
chance to do so. So of course, Dearlizlers, thanks as
always listening show and supporting us. We'll see you next
time with Huntling Retel Witch Hunters. Until then, so much
for it, privilege your time, stay super Show. Mobby Ball
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