April 22, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah. An ancient Aztec legion tells of a god who
descended to Earth from the stars at the ball of
time and became the father of the first over the man.
You are, the pumer Man, the wo man, the Puman Man.
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We must find him and kill him.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You must have made me and will destroy your powers. Ah,
I will.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Destroy your mind to belong to me. Now I kill him.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That the dog got yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
If you go your loss, I'll kill you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The gold mask?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh? Incredible?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The poorer man can be turning times? Did a hyperbability?
What's your plan to follow them until I find out
where the mask is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I want to know what Covers.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Is hiding the mast.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Chum up, people, and welcome to our two one hundred
and eighty eighth episode of Happiness and Darkness and Superhero
Movie Podcast, where we discuss superhero movies, Marvel, DC, Dark Horse,
Image and more. Naturally, there will be spoilers, folks, so
you have been warned. I am one of your co hosts.
Did you Nick? And it is always joined me as
my superhero partner in crime, mister Keith but less, Hey Keith,
(01:33):
how are you today? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know, I'm very I'm feeling very puma today. So
it's been one of those days. It's Tuesday, the sun's out,
it's warm weather, and I just want to go climb
a tree or something.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Or maybe fly randomly while waving your arms like a
goober for no reason exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm gonna use my mind for all of this.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So, folks today, what we are of course alluding to
is today's movie which you are discussing, which is The
Puma Man from nineteen eighty. This was an Italian project.
It was directed and written by Alberto di Martino, who
has quite a few good movies under his belt. The
screenplay was by Massimo di Rita and Luigiangelo, while the
score belly There was by Gernato Cerio. We don't really
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have a budget for this movie, so I don't know
where that it was even brought to theaters, but maybe
not seeing what we will be discussing here. So getting
the general impressions here, Keith, First off, was this the
first time you sat down to watch this? And secondly,
what did you make of it?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
This is the first time I've ever heard of the movie,
let alone watched it. I think I actually may have
stumbled upon this movie briefly once many many decades ago,
but due to the trauma of the said movie, I've
forgotten about it.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It was interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I cannot say this is the worst thing I have
ever seen on TV because I have seen some pretty
impressive nineteen eighties type stuff on TV before, and I'll
get to that in my recommendations. So while it's terrible,
I have seen just as bad and potentially worse at
the same time. So I had a very little bar.
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This was not as traumatizing as I was expecting.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, very well said, and I actually talked about this
to you the night where you were guesting on another podcast,
Star Trek the Undiscovered podcast shout out to our sister
podcast over there that this was one of the few
movies that I really struggled to finish. I stuck with it,
and I was like, I'm not gonna watch it in
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segments because it's going to be just as bad. So
I sat down and watched it for the one the
longest one hour and thirty minutes of my life. It
felt like five hours because I get it, it's nineteen
eighty I get it. It's a cheesy movie and at
the time, maybe Superhero films went as sophisticated as today,
but this was a mess all round. The acting was okay,
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the score was constantly repetitive. It seemed like they had
three pieces of music for this this movie, and that
was it. And yes, while will should say the Puma
Man theme did did. There was catchy and it was
a bit of an earworm, and I found myself humming
it by the end of this film, either because I
was been lobotomized by this film, I don't know, but
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I was just trying to understand that the concept and
the reason this movie even exists, because, as I mentioned before,
our director, mister de Martinos has actually directed some really
good films. I don't know what happened with this one.
Maybe it's supposed to be comedic, Maybe it's supposed to
be a farce. I don't know, because maybe if you
look at it, as I have mentioned this, when it
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comes to certain other superhero films that we've discussed, it
actually may works better as a comedy, and maybe that's
what it is. But it seems to me this movie
takes itself exceedingly seriously, so I'm doubt I think they
maybe wanted to shoot it as a straight superhero action
film because it is so farcical and it's so comedic,
and so many things just happened by chance. You just
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don't understand exactly what you were watching. Other than that,
I think, had it been written better, the concept isn't
a bad one as far out as it is of
aliens mating with humans and thus creating this dinity of
the puma man. You know, that is incredibly out of
the box. But we've seen crazier superhero origin stories, so
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you can stick with that. The thing is, I think
it was very poorly written and equally poorly executed, but
the concept could actually have worked maybe had it been
in more capable hands. When it came to the writing
of this movie. And I hate to say this because
this is an Italian project and so really sad is
because I would have hoped seen this is as I said, Italian,
we would have had something a little bit better. But
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I guess the golden age of Italian cinema was behind
us and clearly did not show up when it came
to this film. And I hate to be so mean
about it, folks, but believe you me, because I really
wanted better and I wanted to laugh with this movie,
not at but them are the breaks, and the number
of times I was rolling my eyes and just waiting
wanting to finish tells you I was getting very, very
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impatient with this film. So I guess then getting let's
see if it gets any better kicking off with our characters.
Let's start with our team Puma Man. We haven't course
our hero and his allies. So Walter George Olton as
Professor Tony Farms aka the current Humer Man, Miguel angelf
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winis as Vadino, and Sydney Rome as Jane Dobson. So
what do you make of Team Pumerman?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Keith interesting?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
The professor was you start the movie where he's running
why we don't know, He's just exercising and he's got
a best buddy driving around in a fire truck the
entire movie, like he was just patrolling for fire. I
don't know, but that that was a thing that apparently,
I guess they thought people didn't Britain back in the eighties.
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They're just like, let's go dry riding in case there's
a fire.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I don't know who the f knows, but that was very.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Like it just starts with that and I'm scratching my head.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I'm like what And then.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Our professor has Spidey sense essentially, and he's like gets
his headache, and some random coworkers like are you okay.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
He's like, I get this. Every time Evil's around, not
a red flag to anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
The guy's just like, oh okay, and like walks away
like all right, you do you bro, and just wanders
off and we're fine and no big deal.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Then we meet.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
What's his face, Yeah, Evidino. Yeah, we meet him, and
he is the sketch. He's looking like twelve foot tall
sob in the face of the planet. Like you see him,
and you're like, he just looks out of place every
time he's on scene, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That's supposed to kind of like be the point a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Is like he just looks like he's out of place,
but it is so distractingly out of place that anytime
he's on the scene that you're just like, Okay, what
is he doing? I don't care what's going on over here?
There's like a giant sasquatch sob here doing weird crap
and praying to the alien gods for stuff to happen,
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which I were like, all right, fine whatever. I thought
it was funny when they first interacted with each other
because the professor is doing something, he's examining stuff and things,
and dude comes walking in again twelve feet tall and
just comes walking in and he just looks suspicious, like
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you don't need spider sense to be like that dude's
up to something, because the minute he walks in, he's
just like eyeballing people, like casing the joint and then
steals a I don't know, a skull of a jaguar
I think probably, and then runs away and you're like,
or a puma rather sorry, and then runs away and you're.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like, oh look, my danger sense. He is doing evil stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Oh my god, Like no, dude, it's not rockets. It's
like you literally watched him. He made eye contact, stuck
the shit in his pocket, and then walked away and
you're like, come back here, stop thief.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And then come to find out.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The dudes of Borderline Superhero. He can pick up cars,
he is ridiculously strong, stealthy, is all get out.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Like again, tall foot tall guy just disappears off the
face of planet and then.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Pops back up again and nobody ever sees him, which
I thought was actually very entertaining. And then the love
interest Dobbs, she could have actually been very interesting assuming
they wrote her into the story well, like she had
a lot of potential. She seemed like there was a
lot going on that we.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Just didn't get to see.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Again, another character we just arbitrarily introduce and then brainwashed
almost immediately with this weird gold mask thingy ma jigger,
which we're not going to talk about too much because
it doesn't make a lot of sense. The three of
them interacting, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Some of this was probably dubbed because.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
The English was potentially not the primary language for some
of these actors, so the chemistry, while it was there,
it wasn't like we see nowadays. This was very much
like they stereotyped characters for specific task. Even when the
Professor and Dobson make out, it's like they're kissing their signal,
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their sister or brother, Like it's just one of these.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Like hm, we must kiss ah, and you're like, oh,
that was.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Just painful to watch, But that's the love interest.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Again.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
This goes back to the writing in its nineteen eighties
and a lot of actors couldn't act back then. But
what got me is the fact that I was actually
genuinely interested in Poolman, Like I was like, this seems
like it could be a cool concept, especially the fact
that there's other people on the planet that have these
powers and ability or potentially powers and abilities. They probably
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differed based on the space god that knocked them up,
but that's a different issue. I would have liked to
see this into like a new show, or not new show,
but updated to have like a streaming TV show, because
I think, again, this could actually be good. You cast
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individuals that make more sense than white dude is supposed
to be grown up in the Amazon rainforest or someplace,
and you're like, that makes no sense at all, whatever,
and you just the bad guy, even the villain. He's
not terrible, he just there's no backstory to a lot
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of these characters. It just they drop you in on
like a random Tuesday in July, and you just go
from there and it goes from zero to completely bonkers
in like two point five seconds. So the interesting fact,
like the belt that he had, Like all right, here's
a belt. It's gonna give you extra power and abilities.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Why, I don't know, just do it.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
All right, fair, and I appreciate the fact that the
professor didn't believe him initially. And then I don't know,
magically all these powers started waking up now, like with
his night vision, which he should have had his entire life,
but we're not going to talk about that, or his
heightened strength again, not going to talk about that. So
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some of these things I get we're triggered based on
the fact that his followers now dead and reminding me
of other characters that have had similar powers and abilities
that have that happened to. But there's a lot of
meat on this bone that they could do a lot with,
And I'm just sad we don't get to see that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Excellent excellent points. Yes, I mean, if you look at it,
just strip it down. It very much is your run
of the mill superhero stories. And you've got your hero,
you've got your mentor, you've got your love interest, and
you've got your villain. And as I said, these tropes
and these these story beats have been around since all
of time, you know, not only within superhero stories, but
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you know any action movie from this epoch before and
and even after. What I just was trying to figure
out about this is I agree with you. When Tony
meets Vadino for the first time, what does Vadinho do.
He throws him out of a window, and because he survives,
he then shows up because then we see Tony's like,
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I survived, and then he's he basically is chased by
Vadinia into this shed. Vadinjo breaks the shed, looks and goes,
you are the Puma Man, and then just disappears, Like
what was that? So basically you're telling me that Vadino
has done this multiple times with people. He's thrown them
out of a window, done something to see if they survive.
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It's like, yeah, it's the Puma Man, or oh well
it wasn't the Puma Man will have to move on.
I'm hoping that's not the case, because Vadino seems like
he knows what he's doing compared to other characters in
this film. So I guess he knew that Tony his
father had been the Puma Man before him, says like,
obviously he would have passed those genes on to his son.
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But just the concept of you're taking a dude and
you're throwing him out a window just made no sense
to me. I get the concept of Okay, he lands
on his feet, because most cats land on their feet.
That said, don't throw cats out the window, people, please don't.
But I think that's what we're trying to say, is like, see,
he already has these feline traits, like you said Keith
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the other later he can see in the dark, and
he can hide in shadow, and he's very agile and
so on. So he's starting to get this time to
come in. But isn't it what a coincidence they come
in now when Vadinho shows up and he hasn't even
put on the belt or anything. So I guess you
could say Tony is the unlikely hero, maybe the reluctant hero,
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because at first he doesn't want this. He's happy being
a paleontologist, I assume, possibly being able to hook up
with Jane, and he's a happy camper. Then it's this
kind of on him by Vadino saying this is your destiny.
You are going to be the puma man. And then
we're treated to those horrible, horrible flight scenes where you're
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seeing Tony flying. It is so bad. I mean, granted,
they probably didn't have a great budget for this, but
if you look at the Superman the Motion picture. Granted, yes,
bigger budget, but this DA came out before this, and
he did a way better job with the flying Here,
you just seeing the guy waving his arms around like
a crazy person while he's flying through the air and
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not knowing what the hell he's doing. And then Vadino's like,
I'm going to mentor you. Does he though he gives
him a few pointers here, and THELI says, it's all
in your mind and you must go to the dark
dimension and your hands are now deadly weapons, where he
does the claws with his hands even though they no
claws come out or anything. It's it's just totally total insanity.
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And then when he gets his powers stripped from him
by cobras, Vadino suggests go into a coma and that
will save you. So he does. But once that's supposed
to is that's supposed to reboot his powers because they
don't really come back. It's very weird. I would have
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actually preferred Vadena to have been the Puma Man, and
we could have not had Tony at all because he's
he seems so much more apart from him being so
well built in your ample frame and big dude. He's
very wise. He's he's got a great head on his shoulders.
He knows what he's doing. He's he's been taught this
since the day he was born. The guy can talk
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to aliens, he can do all sorts of things. Yet
he is simply there to usher in the next puma man,
because apparently, once Tony's come into his own he's like,
my job is done. You guys make out and produce
more puma men. So I guess he's there as almost
just like a babysitter to kind of teach the next
puma man the ropes and then buggers off somewhere because
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he's like, my job is done here. I will go
with the aliens. And if you ever have a son,
tell him to reach me in the andes and I
will teach him to be the next poor man. I
just didn't get that. And as I said before, I
thought Badina had got more to do than Tony, to
be honest, because there a moment why I like, tell
you what the hell are you doing? And also I
have to add the costume. The costume is horrible. It's
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absolutely horrible. If so psychedelic, I guess it's of the time.
But man couldn't even give the guy a mask, even
a Domino mask that would have been nice, but just
him with this weird kind of thing you'd find like
a thrift store, gift shop or something, or carnival shop.
It was so so bad. Jane, I agree, was possibly
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the character who had the most potential, because yes, she's
brainwashed pretty much from the get go. She's working with
these incredibly sketchy guys who's also whose fashion sense I
don't know what the hell they were wearing at the
beginning of this, but okay, but yeah, then you know,
you learned more about her. She's the son apparently of
the Dutch ambassador, and you know, falls for Tony pretty quickly,
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and then you know they're almost making out upstairs when
he's supposed to be there meeting all these dignitaries or
what have you. But yeah, then after that she seems
to come into her own. She's kind of fighting the
mind control because she's discovered love and apparently love conquers all.
But yeah, and then you know, we do get a
bit of action from her as well, and she does
seem like she had been a really great character and
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I would love to maybe if they would do this again,
see how Jane would be different and not just be
I mean she's she's not really the damase when distress
that much, but she's kind of there for Tony to
have somebody to fall in love with. Even though, as
I said, Jane could do does have some interesting moments,
it just seemed like a she's the only one able
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to resist Cobras's mind control because she's in love. Okay whatever.
So by and large, I thought Badina was we could
have had more of as we could have centered more
on him and Tony. Uh. I just like, is this
a guy I'm supposed to root for? Because this guy,
the way he flies around and does stuff, it's like,
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I don't know, I I those I said before. I
liked the concept, I just would like to see it
brought to life in a better fashion. So I guess
rounding off our characters with our villain, we have another
season that there's also been great projects himself, Donald pleasance
as Cobras. So what did you make a Cobras Keith?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I really like doctor No. He's an amazing Bond villain.
And then when he wasn't there, he was here being
this really weird old villain with a gold mask that
could hypnotize rubber masks Apparently I'm going to assume they
were supposed to be people's heads, but they look like
weird mannequins, So he had this obscene mannequin fetish. He
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was okay, It's weird that he was a halfway decent
villain considering what was going on in movie. He wasn't great,
but I don't blame the actor. The writing was just
very haphazardly done. It was like, all right, you're a
bad guy. You're gonna brainwash people.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
What are you gonna do with it? I don't know,
just brainwash people. You're like, okay, but am I like
trying to take over the world?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Maybe what do you mean? Maybe it's a yes or
no question. Like it was like, I feel like this
is like the whole conversation of like what was going on?
And then like what am I wearing chain mail? It
looked like gold chain mail at one point that like
he's like the emperor of something. And then the next
scene he's wearing his leather suit, and again we don't
know why they all were wearing black leather. Apparently they
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were a biker gang or something, an Italian biker gang,
no less, and all he was trying to do is
just get people to like succumb to his mind control,
except nothing ever came of that.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
It was like, all right, good, you're all in your
my power. Go home. You're like and like, no, just
go home. What do you mean go home?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Like, should I like give you my money? Nah, it's fine,
I just want some of your money. Like, oh, so
you're a businessman, Yes, okay, you're an evil businessman with
a gold mask.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
All right.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That sounds like I don't know half the bad guys
in the world nowadays. So really, he wasn't the weirdest
thing in the entire movie, which is kind of sad
if you think about that, the weird crap that happened
in this movie, he was probably the most normal thing.
The mask was atrocious, but I actually I appreciated the concept.
Like again, there was a lot of good ideas in
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this movie. They were just horrifically poorly executed. Like this character.
He could have been a really great villain, assuming he
didn't crash his helicopter into a power line or something
at the end of the movie. But Cobras, he could
have been a character that potentially was reoccurring for you know,
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a season of a TV show or a trilogy of movies.
And then there's a big confrontation with him and Puma
Man and he kills pum Man because he's got Rabi's
or some weird shit, because the hell knows.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I just.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
There's I wanted more of him in like the weirdest way,
because you want to find out what he's trying to do.
Like it's like, what are you trying to accomplish other
than brainwashing these people? Like like why what's the like
why are you doing this? Like I don't care about
all this of a crap, And I get it. They
he was just supposed to be there to be a
guy to fight, and I was actually half expecting him
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to be an alien or potentially a hybrid like Puma Man,
because he had already kind of knew who Puma Man was,
even after the inscription on the mask was read to him.
He's like, oh, I know Puma Man, Like so you've
clearly had experience with the prior pum Man, hence the
father being dead. Now he's the reason who knows. But
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there was just a lot of unanswered questions that could
have made this a more interesting character. And yes, we're
looking at it in twenty twenty five eyes you looked
at it, and you know our nineteen eighty eyeballs. Nick
and I were both like two at the time, so
really it wouldn't matter what the hell they did.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh, I totally agree. I wonder whether Donald Pleasance was
probably the most expensive thing on this movie, because, like
you said, he was, of course a well known Bond villain,
you know, playing the iconic Blowfeld when it came to
you only live twice way back when with Sean Connery.
I would admit I'd never seen that movie, but I
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have seen stills and images of Donald as Blowfeld, and
I know you know from just reading about in mainstream
media and what have you, that he is considered one
of the iconic James Bond villains. And he looks it
because he had Because he has that presence, you can
tell this is a guy who knows how to act.
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Granted when he did that movie that was nineteen sixty seven,
but you don't forget how that and you can, as
I said, you can and tell he has had training
and he's played villains before, and he has this very
piercing stare, which is perfect for the role that he plays.
He's very mesmerizing and no surprise, he uses mind control
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as his weapon of choice to obviously, because back then
the biggest thing that a villain would do is conquer
the world. And so you have that meeting of apparently
all the world leaders and it's like a tiny room
with like ten people in it. There's more countries than that,
but fine, I guess those consider the most influential countries
at the time, and so apparently he's mind controlling them
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through some contraption and now they're all in his control.
But yeah, he doesn't give them any kind of instructions
like go and build warheads or declare war on each other,
or make me president of the world. And like you said,
he mind controls like Okay, we'll see you next Tuesday,
and that's kind of it. But he is, as I said,
you can see, he is very menacing. He works for
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what he's supposed to do. He's, like I supphighlight of
this movie. He's probably the best thing in this film
because it's done with pleasance for one so and I
think there was definitely a reason for having him as
our villain, even though yes he has killed the rather
dumb way kind of trying to escape from Puma Man
in this helicopter. Pum Man flies like with that terrible
pose and Cobras is done for. But yeah, I liked
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him and the fact that the way he just tries
to kind of get into everybody's heads. It's almost that
moment where it seems like he's had the best, he's
getting gone the best of Puma Man because he's created
this force field around him that Tony can't break through,
and it seems like all hope is lost and such.
And then what does Tony do? He like moves through
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walls and stuff, so who ends up behind him? And
it was very that was very comedic. It kind of
reminds me of those theater plays I watched I was
I went to as a kid, and you had the
villain behind the hero and everybody going, he's behind you,
And that's exactly what it was. And that was it
for Cobras. But yeah, I'm I guess Donald Pleasance didn't
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have much to do in nineteen eighty, or maybe he
was friends with the director. Maybe Di Martino said, you know, Donald,
if you're not doing anything. Do you want to be
in a movie? Maybe I guess maybe he did to
do a favor because this definitely is not going to
rank high on Donald Pleasant's resume, But I'm grateful to
him for at least making this movie a little bit
more bearable. So, Keith, did you have anything else you
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would like to add on our movie before we get
to ratings?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So two things.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What I thought was funny is what you were just
mentioning how poor Man faced through the floor, like he
forgot he had that ability and then remembered at the
end of the movie, like, oh.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, there's a force few I could just face through
the floor. Why did I not think of this before?
And then at the same time.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If all of his powers are based out of the mind,
why was he able to get mind controlled? You would
have thought he'd have better mental blocks or anything, like, yes,
I get it, he'd been Puma Man for like forty
five minutes at this point in time, just based on
his flying style alone. And did he make that weird
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sound every time he flew, that weird musicy, squirrely sound,
Because if that's the case, everybody be able yeah, like
every time, and fans that you have to watch it
just for that, because it is spectacularly bad. And I
cannot stress this amount enough how bad this is. And
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this is coming from a guy who watches the original
like nineteen forty Superman with the original Reeves and they
did flying better in that than Puma Man did in this,
Like they would be like up down left right, Wisconsin, Tuesday, Ohio,
and you're like where how And then he crashed like
three feet from where he took off and you're like, dude,
did you just time travel?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Because I think it did, and it's just it, Oh
my god, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I could go on for like another solid forty five
minutes of just the sheer, silly ridiculousness, like where he
tried to drop the henchmen, but when you watch it,
you could clearly tell they were standing on the ground
and he's like, look.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Out, I will drop you and they's like, oh no,
don't do that. Out no, and like you.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Can tell they're standing there, and then he hangs them
on a hook and you go watch like, if you
look close enough, you watch them walking to the hook
and you're like, bro, oh god, please, I think I
was like, help me, no, I'm help, I'm stuck, and
you're like, nope, no, you're not just walking off champ.
So yeah, it's amazing. I recommend this movie like to
everybody at least once, because you just can't. It's terrible,
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but it's amazingly terrible.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Well said the possibly even the mystery science fiction version
as well. And you didn't you know I since you
know you being of course a big comic book guy
like myself and loving superhos the way you do. What
were your thoughts on the Puma Man costume, if we
could even call that a costume?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, I amast on my recommendations that you'll understand why
I was not as surprised as it could have been. Yes,
I'm with you. He should have had a mask of
some type, Like it just looks like a dude in
a cape. Look, it's Captain Crazy and he's flying like,
running around with a cape the entire movie. He has
his cape on, like, so if he took the belt off,
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would the costume disappear? Because you don't. He doesn't take
the belt off again. He puts it on on top
of his tuxedo, which everybody, all the villains had tuxedos,
which was hysterical. He was fighting penguins basically, and then.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
He turned into Puma man. So like, if he pops
it off, is it the same, Like is.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
The clothes he's been wearing for like a week now,
because that's gonna smell pretty rank. I'm just putting that
out there, unless that's part of his superpowers of like Nobo,
dude's gonna smell bad.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That's a thing. But he's an alien, so he might
not have it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I guess maybe he's got new car smell. You know
that there's no things he's stick in your car, And
I guess the costume comes with a variety of smell.
So there's new car smell, there's mint, there's all sorts. Possibly,
But such a bad costume. I mean, I like, I
will say this though, I like the design on the chest,
but had you made it a full blown costume, like,
you know, a classic even tights kind of costume. Allah,
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maybe even Superman from nineteen seventy eight. Once again, bigger budget,
I understand, but still you could have done a little
bit better instead of like, oh, let's go by this
store that sells costumes for Halloween or for Kanna or whatever,
and just stick this on. We'll put on like a
weird mystic motif of a puma, and you're good to go.
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It did seemed to me that not a lot of
thought was put into the costume design. And once again,
I don't think that dim Apthine and his crew were
thinking that they were going to win anything with this film,
or they would be the most groundbreaking thing. And I
almost would love to wish I could sit down with
mister dim Apthino and just ask him is this a
comedy or is it a serious film? Because just the
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way it's done, as I said, it almost has this
Batman sixty six vibe about it because some stuff is
so exaggerated. But I guess we'll never know when it
comes to the when it came to just the origin
of this and what they thought about when they were
creating this, it's like, oh, we're just going to do
a spoof and just do something like this, but man,
it was bad. Anyways, getting this will be interesting. I
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suppose getting them to ratings. What do you give that?
Pooh man, how it's end?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Oh it's getting a six? There's no like, you can't
it doesn't. It doesn't pass the quote unquote sniff test.
It's bad on so many levels, but it's the best
kind of bad possible. If you go into it like rotten,
like Attack of the Killer Tomatoes level of Shenanigans, you'll
enjoy it immensely.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
This is not.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Black Panther Captain America, none of that. It's not even
Doctor Strange from seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Bet.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's just it's a whole different level of everything.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well said, I'm actually gonna give this a four out
of ten. There were there were moments I enjoyed, as
I said, even though the score kept repeating itself, because
you had like three tracks, like remind me of an
old school video game where you get into certain levels
and you have a certain theme, you have other levels,
you get another theme. They had literally three pieces written
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for this this particular film, And like I said, the
puh Man theme began to grow on me the more
I heard it, because it was constantly in your ears
every time that Tony turned was doing Puma Man stuff.
Other than that, I said, before I thought it was
polly executed. The writing was was there any writing? And
the only kind of has said saving grace of this
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film I think was Donald pleasants who were kind of
earns those four points that I'm giving to today's movies.
So I guess said Charles, if you're listening, thank you
for recommending this movie. At least we got to talk
about it. But wow, I just hope that someday somebody
will come along saying, you remember that cheesy movie that
Italian directed in nineteen eighty, Let's try and do it again,
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only make it make sense. We'll see If not, this
is all we'll ever get when it comes to the
Puma Man world. So, speaking of recommendations, Keith, what would
you like to recommend to the class this week?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
So this is going to be a classic AVS TV series.
It's called The Greatest American Hero and if you thought
um Man Blue weird, you have to watch it at
least once.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
DJ Nick.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
It is the same level, but a slightly better budget
and head writing. It is just completely bonkers, over the top.
I loved every minute of it. So Puma Man is
in the same wheelhouse as Greatest American Hero. You could
also pick a lot of these shows like v Greatest
American Hero, Max Headroom another horrible TV series, bad budget
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and everything, but it is amazing to watch.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
It's so amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
They rebooted it, so you know it could have been
that bad though. And My Secret Identity, so if anybody's
checked that out, that's another one of those weird, low
budget superhero TV series. All of these are gonna be
like in the realm of cheesy superhero so it fits
right in with Puma Man and you'll enjoy every minute
of it, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I have to ask, is my secret identity the one
which has the song You'll never guess my Secret Identity?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Uh huh oh?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
So yeah, in Italian here was known as my friend
Ultraman is what it was called, because I guess his
persona was Ultraman. I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, he gets shot with a laser and he gets
all these powers and abilities essentially a lotly like Puh
Man's powers and abilities, and I think he turned beat.
That's like his superhero name. But yeah, it was called
My Secret Identity.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And it was the dude who flew around with spray
cans right.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yes, okay, because he couldn't control himself. He just kind
of aerosol canned himself around.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Then, yes, I saw it, and as I said, the
title pray over here was my friend Ultraman. So there
you go. So I have watched that, and I will
say the theme song was very catchy, was very of
its time, but it was absolutely, absolutely h It definitely
was one of my childhood memories, one of my favorite
childhood memories. When it comes to recommendations on my end,
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I will go the other way. I mean, I did
mention this film if you haven't seen it, and I've
now made an appointment of watching it, because my knowledge
of James Bond is scarce at best when it comes
I actually I haven't seen James Bond films. I've only
seen one and that was with Pierce Brosnan way back
when I was actually kind of dragged in the theater
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to see that one. But it was it was fun enough.
I would definitely recommend you Only Lived Twice, because I
think if you want to see Donald Pleasance being Donald pleasant,
it is most menacing. Check out nineteen sixty seven You
Only Live Twice, of course with the late great Sean
Connery and of course mister Pleasance. And yeah, I from
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what I've been told by Bond fans, it's definitely a classic,
and I'm sure I'll be able to confirm all this
once I finally sat down to watch it. So that's
my recommendation. So, ah, Keith, when you're not here discussing
Italian classics likes whom a Man, where can folks find
you on the interwebs?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Excuse me?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Well, just recently I've had a short stint on Star
Trek the Undiscovered podcast. I went from barely being on
there at all to like five episodes of this season practically,
so that new episode should be dropping, I believe Friday.
And I was also on last week's episode, so you
had me back to back there where else am I?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I was also on the first episode of Real Reaction.
And then there's always the Hour of Comics is upon
us their archived version because I haven't been.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
On there in a hot minute.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And then usually I'm here with you talking about weird,
crazy movies that are recommended by our friends that try
to torment us. And then you can find me on
our Facebook page obviously, and you can just drop a comment.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Request chat whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
We're talking about, pretty much anything cartoons, colm books, anime, lions, tigers,
bears are.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Mine sounds great, and the folks if you check out
Keith's appearances on the The aforementioned podcasts are Chazz, Star
Trek and Discovered podcast because he always has fantastic insights
and he's often schooling me on Star Trek because I
am not a tricky by any stretch of the imagination,
but he always feeds me this wonderful information and I
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definitely appreciate that. When it comes to myself, you can
find me at my day job hosting the radio show
Whiskey and Cigarettes, where we play the very best and
nothing but the best of country music for you guys
from Alabama to Zach Brown. More information about that, I
think he's our website which is Whiskey and Cigarettes show
dot com. Podcast Wise, you can also find myself, Zan
Sprouse or Rachel Friend on gold Standard, the Oscars podcast,
(37:52):
where we have reviewed all the best picture winning movies
in chronological order. We're now going back to selecting movies
that we selecting movies and having returning and new guest
co host bring their favorite films to the gold Stand
in theater speaking of comedies and farces. Coming up next
this week as of this recording, will be reviewing a
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movie that Rachel picked and that is the Classic comedy
Monty Python and the Holy Grail, so I'm sure we'll
definitely have a great time talking about that one. And last,
let's say not least myself and the aforementioned Charles Staggs
have wrapped up our review of Daredevil Born Again on
the fandom Zone podcast. We're going to be gone from
(38:34):
there for a couple of months and then we'll be
coming back to review the second season of The Sandman.
So I drove the bus when it came to Daredevil
because I tend to do the Marvel related stuff. Charles
does the DC from Vertigo and all other related stuff,
so he'll be driving the bus to that one. So
that will be sam Man season two and spin things
(38:56):
to come on this show next time, as we prepare
for the upcoming movie The Thunderbolts, will actually be taking
on a rewatch, in this case the first time watched
for Keith, a rewatch for me, and that will be
the twenty twenty one Hate Shortland film Black Widow. So ah, Keith,
anything you'd like to add on our next movie or
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anything else before we sung.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Off real quick.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
If none of you on gold Standard, give Mondy Python
ten coconuts, you're all none of my friends anymore. Just
gonna put that out there. That's a passive aggressive threat
for you and your co hosts. You can share that
with them, use that information as you will. About Black Widow,
this is weirdly gonna be a first watch and the
only reason why I have not watched it before is
(39:42):
because they ruined her story. We already know she dies,
so how we get to her being dead? Little relevance
and it was just mostly, you know, a story for
filling in a blank that nobody really asked for or
they did, but it was a decade earlier and now
we just don't care.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
So it'll be interesting. I'm gonna go with it.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
As little you know malice as I can, but you know,
I already have kind of a little preconceived notion, but
I'm going to try to hunker down and not be
too judgy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Well, we'll definitely see what you make of it. Of course,
this was the movie that introduced us to Yelena Bilova,
who of course played by the wonderful Florence Pew, who
will be among those appearing in Thunderbolts of course, amongst others.
So this was literally the movie that introduced us to
this character. That we got to see her as well
when it came to Hawkeye, where she had some rather
(40:33):
memorable moments. So I will save my thoughts for this
one because I'm actually gonna rewatch it and see if
those thoughts of mine are confirmed. So, folks, as always,
thanks listening show and supporting us. We'll see you next
time with Black Widow. Until then, thank you so much
for the privage your time. Stay super Shout muppy
Yeah. An ancient Aztec legion tells of a god who
descended to Earth from the stars at the ball of
time and became the father of the first over the man.
You are, the pumer Man, the wo man, the Puman Man.
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We must find him and kill him.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You must have made me and will destroy your powers. Ah,
I will.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Destroy your mind to belong to me. Now I kill him.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That the dog got yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
If you go your loss, I'll kill you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The gold mask?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Oh? Incredible?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The poorer man can be turning times? Did a hyperbability?
What's your plan to follow them until I find out
where the mask is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I want to know what Covers.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Is hiding the mast.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Chum up, people, and welcome to our two one hundred
and eighty eighth episode of Happiness and Darkness and Superhero
Movie Podcast, where we discuss superhero movies, Marvel, DC, Dark Horse,
Image and more. Naturally, there will be spoilers, folks, so
you have been warned. I am one of your co hosts.
Did you Nick? And it is always joined me as
my superhero partner in crime, mister Keith but less, Hey Keith,
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how are you today? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know, I'm very I'm feeling very puma today. So
it's been one of those days. It's Tuesday, the sun's out,
it's warm weather, and I just want to go climb
a tree or something.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Or maybe fly randomly while waving your arms like a
goober for no reason exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm gonna use my mind for all of this.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So, folks today, what we are of course alluding to
is today's movie which you are discussing, which is The
Puma Man from nineteen eighty. This was an Italian project.
It was directed and written by Alberto di Martino, who
has quite a few good movies under his belt. The
screenplay was by Massimo di Rita and Luigiangelo, while the
score belly There was by Gernato Cerio. We don't really
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have a budget for this movie, so I don't know
where that it was even brought to theaters, but maybe
not seeing what we will be discussing here. So getting
the general impressions here, Keith, First off, was this the
first time you sat down to watch this? And secondly,
what did you make of it?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
This is the first time I've ever heard of the movie,
let alone watched it. I think I actually may have
stumbled upon this movie briefly once many many decades ago,
but due to the trauma of the said movie, I've
forgotten about it.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It was interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I cannot say this is the worst thing I have
ever seen on TV because I have seen some pretty
impressive nineteen eighties type stuff on TV before, and I'll
get to that in my recommendations. So while it's terrible,
I have seen just as bad and potentially worse at
the same time. So I had a very little bar.
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This was not as traumatizing as I was expecting.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, very well said, and I actually talked about this
to you the night where you were guesting on another podcast,
Star Trek the Undiscovered podcast shout out to our sister
podcast over there that this was one of the few
movies that I really struggled to finish. I stuck with it,
and I was like, I'm not gonna watch it in
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segments because it's going to be just as bad. So
I sat down and watched it for the one the
longest one hour and thirty minutes of my life. It
felt like five hours because I get it, it's nineteen
eighty I get it. It's a cheesy movie and at
the time, maybe Superhero films went as sophisticated as today,
but this was a mess all round. The acting was okay,
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the score was constantly repetitive. It seemed like they had
three pieces of music for this this movie, and that
was it. And yes, while will should say the Puma
Man theme did did. There was catchy and it was
a bit of an earworm, and I found myself humming
it by the end of this film, either because I
was been lobotomized by this film, I don't know, but
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I was just trying to understand that the concept and
the reason this movie even exists, because, as I mentioned before,
our director, mister de Martinos has actually directed some really
good films. I don't know what happened with this one.
Maybe it's supposed to be comedic, Maybe it's supposed to
be a farce. I don't know, because maybe if you
look at it, as I have mentioned this, when it
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comes to certain other superhero films that we've discussed, it
actually may works better as a comedy, and maybe that's
what it is. But it seems to me this movie
takes itself exceedingly seriously, so I'm doubt I think they
maybe wanted to shoot it as a straight superhero action
film because it is so farcical and it's so comedic,
and so many things just happened by chance. You just
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don't understand exactly what you were watching. Other than that,
I think, had it been written better, the concept isn't
a bad one as far out as it is of
aliens mating with humans and thus creating this dinity of
the puma man. You know, that is incredibly out of
the box. But we've seen crazier superhero origin stories, so
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you can stick with that. The thing is, I think
it was very poorly written and equally poorly executed, but
the concept could actually have worked maybe had it been
in more capable hands. When it came to the writing
of this movie. And I hate to say this because
this is an Italian project and so really sad is
because I would have hoped seen this is as I said, Italian,
we would have had something a little bit better. But
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I guess the golden age of Italian cinema was behind
us and clearly did not show up when it came
to this film. And I hate to be so mean
about it, folks, but believe you me, because I really
wanted better and I wanted to laugh with this movie,
not at but them are the breaks, and the number
of times I was rolling my eyes and just waiting
wanting to finish tells you I was getting very, very
(06:09):
impatient with this film. So I guess then getting let's
see if it gets any better kicking off with our characters.
Let's start with our team Puma Man. We haven't course
our hero and his allies. So Walter George Olton as
Professor Tony Farms aka the current Humer Man, Miguel angelf
(06:30):
winis as Vadino, and Sydney Rome as Jane Dobson. So
what do you make of Team Pumerman?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Keith interesting?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
The professor was you start the movie where he's running
why we don't know, He's just exercising and he's got
a best buddy driving around in a fire truck the
entire movie, like he was just patrolling for fire. I
don't know, but that that was a thing that apparently,
I guess they thought people didn't Britain back in the eighties.
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They're just like, let's go dry riding in case there's
a fire.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I don't know who the f knows, but that was very.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Like it just starts with that and I'm scratching my head.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I'm like what And then.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Our professor has Spidey sense essentially, and he's like gets
his headache, and some random coworkers like are you okay.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
He's like, I get this. Every time Evil's around, not
a red flag to anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
The guy's just like, oh okay, and like walks away
like all right, you do you bro, and just wanders
off and we're fine and no big deal.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Then we meet.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
What's his face, Yeah, Evidino. Yeah, we meet him, and
he is the sketch. He's looking like twelve foot tall
sob in the face of the planet. Like you see him,
and you're like, he just looks out of place every
time he's on scene, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That's supposed to kind of like be the point a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Is like he just looks like he's out of place,
but it is so distractingly out of place that anytime
he's on the scene that you're just like, Okay, what
is he doing? I don't care what's going on over here?
There's like a giant sasquatch sob here doing weird crap
and praying to the alien gods for stuff to happen,
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which I were like, all right, fine whatever. I thought
it was funny when they first interacted with each other
because the professor is doing something, he's examining stuff and things,
and dude comes walking in again twelve feet tall and
just comes walking in and he just looks suspicious, like
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you don't need spider sense to be like that dude's
up to something, because the minute he walks in, he's
just like eyeballing people, like casing the joint and then
steals a I don't know, a skull of a jaguar
I think probably, and then runs away and you're like,
or a puma rather sorry, and then runs away and you're.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like, oh look, my danger sense. He is doing evil stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Oh my god, Like no, dude, it's not rockets. It's
like you literally watched him. He made eye contact, stuck
the shit in his pocket, and then walked away and
you're like, come back here, stop thief.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And then come to find out.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The dudes of Borderline Superhero. He can pick up cars,
he is ridiculously strong, stealthy, is all get out.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Like again, tall foot tall guy just disappears off the
face of planet and then.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Pops back up again and nobody ever sees him, which
I thought was actually very entertaining. And then the love
interest Dobbs, she could have actually been very interesting assuming
they wrote her into the story well, like she had
a lot of potential. She seemed like there was a
lot going on that we.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Just didn't get to see.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Again, another character we just arbitrarily introduce and then brainwashed
almost immediately with this weird gold mask thingy ma jigger,
which we're not going to talk about too much because
it doesn't make a lot of sense. The three of
them interacting, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Some of this was probably dubbed because.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
The English was potentially not the primary language for some
of these actors, so the chemistry, while it was there,
it wasn't like we see nowadays. This was very much
like they stereotyped characters for specific task. Even when the
Professor and Dobson make out, it's like they're kissing their signal,
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their sister or brother, Like it's just one of these.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Like hm, we must kiss ah, and you're like, oh,
that was.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Just painful to watch, But that's the love interest.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Again.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
This goes back to the writing in its nineteen eighties
and a lot of actors couldn't act back then. But
what got me is the fact that I was actually
genuinely interested in Poolman, Like I was like, this seems
like it could be a cool concept, especially the fact
that there's other people on the planet that have these
powers and ability or potentially powers and abilities. They probably
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differed based on the space god that knocked them up,
but that's a different issue. I would have liked to
see this into like a new show, or not new show,
but updated to have like a streaming TV show, because
I think, again, this could actually be good. You cast
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individuals that make more sense than white dude is supposed
to be grown up in the Amazon rainforest or someplace,
and you're like, that makes no sense at all, whatever,
and you just the bad guy, even the villain. He's
not terrible, he just there's no backstory to a lot
(11:43):
of these characters. It just they drop you in on
like a random Tuesday in July, and you just go
from there and it goes from zero to completely bonkers
in like two point five seconds. So the interesting fact,
like the belt that he had, Like all right, here's
a belt. It's gonna give you extra power and abilities.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Why, I don't know, just do it.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
All right, fair, and I appreciate the fact that the
professor didn't believe him initially. And then I don't know,
magically all these powers started waking up now, like with
his night vision, which he should have had his entire life,
but we're not going to talk about that, or his
heightened strength again, not going to talk about that. So
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some of these things I get we're triggered based on
the fact that his followers now dead and reminding me
of other characters that have had similar powers and abilities
that have that happened to. But there's a lot of
meat on this bone that they could do a lot with,
And I'm just sad we don't get to see that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Excellent excellent points. Yes, I mean, if you look at it,
just strip it down. It very much is your run
of the mill superhero stories. And you've got your hero,
you've got your mentor, you've got your love interest, and
you've got your villain. And as I said, these tropes
and these these story beats have been around since all
of time, you know, not only within superhero stories, but
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you know any action movie from this epoch before and
and even after. What I just was trying to figure
out about this is I agree with you. When Tony
meets Vadino for the first time, what does Vadinho do.
He throws him out of a window, and because he survives,
he then shows up because then we see Tony's like,
(13:24):
I survived, and then he's he basically is chased by
Vadinia into this shed. Vadinjo breaks the shed, looks and goes,
you are the Puma Man, and then just disappears, Like
what was that? So basically you're telling me that Vadino
has done this multiple times with people. He's thrown them
out of a window, done something to see if they survive.
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It's like, yeah, it's the Puma Man, or oh well
it wasn't the Puma Man will have to move on.
I'm hoping that's not the case, because Vadino seems like
he knows what he's doing compared to other characters in
this film. So I guess he knew that Tony his
father had been the Puma Man before him, says like,
obviously he would have passed those genes on to his son.
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But just the concept of you're taking a dude and
you're throwing him out a window just made no sense
to me. I get the concept of Okay, he lands
on his feet, because most cats land on their feet.
That said, don't throw cats out the window, people, please don't.
But I think that's what we're trying to say, is like, see,
he already has these feline traits, like you said Keith
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the other later he can see in the dark, and
he can hide in shadow, and he's very agile and
so on. So he's starting to get this time to
come in. But isn't it what a coincidence they come
in now when Vadinho shows up and he hasn't even
put on the belt or anything. So I guess you
could say Tony is the unlikely hero, maybe the reluctant hero,
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because at first he doesn't want this. He's happy being
a paleontologist, I assume, possibly being able to hook up
with Jane, and he's a happy camper. Then it's this
kind of on him by Vadino saying this is your destiny.
You are going to be the puma man. And then
we're treated to those horrible, horrible flight scenes where you're
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seeing Tony flying. It is so bad. I mean, granted,
they probably didn't have a great budget for this, but
if you look at the Superman the Motion picture. Granted, yes,
bigger budget, but this DA came out before this, and
he did a way better job with the flying Here,
you just seeing the guy waving his arms around like
a crazy person while he's flying through the air and
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not knowing what the hell he's doing. And then Vadino's like,
I'm going to mentor you. Does he though he gives
him a few pointers here, and THELI says, it's all
in your mind and you must go to the dark
dimension and your hands are now deadly weapons, where he
does the claws with his hands even though they no
claws come out or anything. It's it's just totally total insanity.
(15:55):
And then when he gets his powers stripped from him
by cobras, Vadino suggests go into a coma and that
will save you. So he does. But once that's supposed
to is that's supposed to reboot his powers because they
don't really come back. It's very weird. I would have
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actually preferred Vadena to have been the Puma Man, and
we could have not had Tony at all because he's
he seems so much more apart from him being so
well built in your ample frame and big dude. He's
very wise. He's he's got a great head on his shoulders.
He knows what he's doing. He's he's been taught this
since the day he was born. The guy can talk
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to aliens, he can do all sorts of things. Yet
he is simply there to usher in the next puma man,
because apparently, once Tony's come into his own he's like,
my job is done. You guys make out and produce
more puma men. So I guess he's there as almost
just like a babysitter to kind of teach the next
puma man the ropes and then buggers off somewhere because
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he's like, my job is done here. I will go
with the aliens. And if you ever have a son,
tell him to reach me in the andes and I
will teach him to be the next poor man. I
just didn't get that. And as I said before, I
thought Badina had got more to do than Tony, to
be honest, because there a moment why I like, tell
you what the hell are you doing? And also I
have to add the costume. The costume is horrible. It's
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absolutely horrible. If so psychedelic, I guess it's of the time.
But man couldn't even give the guy a mask, even
a Domino mask that would have been nice, but just
him with this weird kind of thing you'd find like
a thrift store, gift shop or something, or carnival shop.
It was so so bad. Jane, I agree, was possibly
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the character who had the most potential, because yes, she's
brainwashed pretty much from the get go. She's working with
these incredibly sketchy guys who's also whose fashion sense I
don't know what the hell they were wearing at the
beginning of this, but okay, but yeah, then you know,
you learned more about her. She's the son apparently of
the Dutch ambassador, and you know, falls for Tony pretty quickly,
(18:02):
and then you know they're almost making out upstairs when
he's supposed to be there meeting all these dignitaries or
what have you. But yeah, then after that she seems
to come into her own. She's kind of fighting the
mind control because she's discovered love and apparently love conquers all.
But yeah, and then you know, we do get a
bit of action from her as well, and she does
seem like she had been a really great character and
(18:24):
I would love to maybe if they would do this again,
see how Jane would be different and not just be
I mean she's she's not really the damase when distress
that much, but she's kind of there for Tony to
have somebody to fall in love with. Even though, as
I said, Jane could do does have some interesting moments,
it just seemed like a she's the only one able
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to resist Cobras's mind control because she's in love. Okay whatever.
So by and large, I thought Badina was we could
have had more of as we could have centered more
on him and Tony. Uh. I just like, is this
a guy I'm supposed to root for? Because this guy,
the way he flies around and does stuff, it's like,
(19:05):
I don't know, I I those I said before. I
liked the concept, I just would like to see it
brought to life in a better fashion. So I guess
rounding off our characters with our villain, we have another
season that there's also been great projects himself, Donald pleasance
as Cobras. So what did you make a Cobras Keith?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I really like doctor No. He's an amazing Bond villain.
And then when he wasn't there, he was here being
this really weird old villain with a gold mask that
could hypnotize rubber masks Apparently I'm going to assume they
were supposed to be people's heads, but they look like
weird mannequins, So he had this obscene mannequin fetish. He
(19:52):
was okay, It's weird that he was a halfway decent
villain considering what was going on in movie. He wasn't great,
but I don't blame the actor. The writing was just
very haphazardly done. It was like, all right, you're a
bad guy. You're gonna brainwash people.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
What are you gonna do with it? I don't know,
just brainwash people. You're like, okay, but am I like
trying to take over the world?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Maybe what do you mean? Maybe it's a yes or
no question. Like it was like, I feel like this
is like the whole conversation of like what was going on?
And then like what am I wearing chain mail? It
looked like gold chain mail at one point that like
he's like the emperor of something. And then the next
scene he's wearing his leather suit, and again we don't
know why they all were wearing black leather. Apparently they
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were a biker gang or something, an Italian biker gang,
no less, and all he was trying to do is
just get people to like succumb to his mind control,
except nothing ever came of that.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
It was like, all right, good, you're all in your
my power. Go home. You're like and like, no, just
go home. What do you mean go home?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Like, should I like give you my money? Nah, it's fine,
I just want some of your money. Like, oh, so
you're a businessman, Yes, okay, you're an evil businessman with
a gold mask.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
All right.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That sounds like I don't know half the bad guys
in the world nowadays. So really, he wasn't the weirdest
thing in the entire movie, which is kind of sad
if you think about that, the weird crap that happened
in this movie, he was probably the most normal thing.
The mask was atrocious, but I actually I appreciated the concept.
Like again, there was a lot of good ideas in
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this movie. They were just horrifically poorly executed. Like this character.
He could have been a really great villain, assuming he
didn't crash his helicopter into a power line or something
at the end of the movie. But Cobras, he could
have been a character that potentially was reoccurring for you know,
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a season of a TV show or a trilogy of movies.
And then there's a big confrontation with him and Puma
Man and he kills pum Man because he's got Rabi's
or some weird shit, because the hell knows.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I just.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
There's I wanted more of him in like the weirdest way,
because you want to find out what he's trying to do.
Like it's like, what are you trying to accomplish other
than brainwashing these people? Like like why what's the like
why are you doing this? Like I don't care about
all this of a crap, And I get it. They
he was just supposed to be there to be a
guy to fight, and I was actually half expecting him
(22:29):
to be an alien or potentially a hybrid like Puma Man,
because he had already kind of knew who Puma Man was,
even after the inscription on the mask was read to him.
He's like, oh, I know Puma Man, Like so you've
clearly had experience with the prior pum Man, hence the
father being dead. Now he's the reason who knows. But
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there was just a lot of unanswered questions that could
have made this a more interesting character. And yes, we're
looking at it in twenty twenty five eyes you looked
at it, and you know our nineteen eighty eyeballs. Nick
and I were both like two at the time, so
really it wouldn't matter what the hell they did.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh, I totally agree. I wonder whether Donald Pleasance was
probably the most expensive thing on this movie, because, like
you said, he was, of course a well known Bond villain,
you know, playing the iconic Blowfeld when it came to
you only live twice way back when with Sean Connery.
I would admit I'd never seen that movie, but I
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have seen stills and images of Donald as Blowfeld, and
I know you know from just reading about in mainstream
media and what have you, that he is considered one
of the iconic James Bond villains. And he looks it
because he had Because he has that presence, you can
tell this is a guy who knows how to act.
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Granted when he did that movie that was nineteen sixty seven,
but you don't forget how that and you can, as
I said, you can and tell he has had training
and he's played villains before, and he has this very
piercing stare, which is perfect for the role that he plays.
He's very mesmerizing and no surprise, he uses mind control
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as his weapon of choice to obviously, because back then
the biggest thing that a villain would do is conquer
the world. And so you have that meeting of apparently
all the world leaders and it's like a tiny room
with like ten people in it. There's more countries than that,
but fine, I guess those consider the most influential countries
at the time, and so apparently he's mind controlling them
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through some contraption and now they're all in his control.
But yeah, he doesn't give them any kind of instructions
like go and build warheads or declare war on each other,
or make me president of the world. And like you said,
he mind controls like Okay, we'll see you next Tuesday,
and that's kind of it. But he is, as I said,
you can see, he is very menacing. He works for
(24:57):
what he's supposed to do. He's, like I supphighlight of
this movie. He's probably the best thing in this film
because it's done with pleasance for one so and I
think there was definitely a reason for having him as
our villain, even though yes he has killed the rather
dumb way kind of trying to escape from Puma Man
in this helicopter. Pum Man flies like with that terrible
pose and Cobras is done for. But yeah, I liked
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him and the fact that the way he just tries
to kind of get into everybody's heads. It's almost that
moment where it seems like he's had the best, he's
getting gone the best of Puma Man because he's created
this force field around him that Tony can't break through,
and it seems like all hope is lost and such.
And then what does Tony do? He like moves through
(25:43):
walls and stuff, so who ends up behind him? And
it was very that was very comedic. It kind of
reminds me of those theater plays I watched I was
I went to as a kid, and you had the
villain behind the hero and everybody going, he's behind you,
And that's exactly what it was. And that was it
for Cobras. But yeah, I'm I guess Donald Pleasance didn't
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have much to do in nineteen eighty, or maybe he
was friends with the director. Maybe Di Martino said, you know, Donald,
if you're not doing anything. Do you want to be
in a movie? Maybe I guess maybe he did to
do a favor because this definitely is not going to
rank high on Donald Pleasant's resume, But I'm grateful to
him for at least making this movie a little bit
more bearable. So, Keith, did you have anything else you
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would like to add on our movie before we get
to ratings?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So two things.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
What I thought was funny is what you were just
mentioning how poor Man faced through the floor, like he
forgot he had that ability and then remembered at the
end of the movie, like, oh.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, there's a force few I could just face through
the floor. Why did I not think of this before?
And then at the same time.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If all of his powers are based out of the mind,
why was he able to get mind controlled? You would
have thought he'd have better mental blocks or anything, like, yes,
I get it, he'd been Puma Man for like forty
five minutes at this point in time, just based on
his flying style alone. And did he make that weird
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sound every time he flew, that weird musicy, squirrely sound,
Because if that's the case, everybody be able yeah, like
every time, and fans that you have to watch it
just for that, because it is spectacularly bad. And I
cannot stress this amount enough how bad this is. And
(27:31):
this is coming from a guy who watches the original
like nineteen forty Superman with the original Reeves and they
did flying better in that than Puma Man did in this,
Like they would be like up down left right, Wisconsin, Tuesday, Ohio,
and you're like where how And then he crashed like
three feet from where he took off and you're like, dude,
did you just time travel?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Because I think it did, and it's just it, Oh
my god, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I could go on for like another solid forty five
minutes of just the sheer, silly ridiculousness, like where he
tried to drop the henchmen, but when you watch it,
you could clearly tell they were standing on the ground
and he's like, look.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Out, I will drop you and they's like, oh no,
don't do that. Out no, and like you.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Can tell they're standing there, and then he hangs them
on a hook and you go watch like, if you
look close enough, you watch them walking to the hook
and you're like, bro, oh god, please, I think I
was like, help me, no, I'm help, I'm stuck, and
you're like, nope, no, you're not just walking off champ.
So yeah, it's amazing. I recommend this movie like to
everybody at least once, because you just can't. It's terrible,
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but it's amazingly terrible.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Well said the possibly even the mystery science fiction version
as well. And you didn't you know I since you
know you being of course a big comic book guy
like myself and loving superhos the way you do. What
were your thoughts on the Puma Man costume, if we
could even call that a costume?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, I amast on my recommendations that you'll understand why
I was not as surprised as it could have been. Yes,
I'm with you. He should have had a mask of
some type, Like it just looks like a dude in
a cape. Look, it's Captain Crazy and he's flying like,
running around with a cape the entire movie. He has
his cape on, like, so if he took the belt off,
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would the costume disappear? Because you don't. He doesn't take
the belt off again. He puts it on on top
of his tuxedo, which everybody, all the villains had tuxedos,
which was hysterical. He was fighting penguins basically, and then.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
He turned into Puma man. So like, if he pops
it off, is it the same, Like is.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
The clothes he's been wearing for like a week now,
because that's gonna smell pretty rank. I'm just putting that
out there, unless that's part of his superpowers of like Nobo,
dude's gonna smell bad.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That's a thing. But he's an alien, so he might
not have it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I guess maybe he's got new car smell. You know
that there's no things he's stick in your car, And
I guess the costume comes with a variety of smell.
So there's new car smell, there's mint, there's all sorts. Possibly,
But such a bad costume. I mean, I like, I
will say this though, I like the design on the chest,
but had you made it a full blown costume, like,
you know, a classic even tights kind of costume. Allah,
(30:13):
maybe even Superman from nineteen seventy eight. Once again, bigger budget,
I understand, but still you could have done a little
bit better instead of like, oh, let's go by this
store that sells costumes for Halloween or for Kanna or whatever,
and just stick this on. We'll put on like a
weird mystic motif of a puma, and you're good to go.
(30:34):
It did seemed to me that not a lot of
thought was put into the costume design. And once again,
I don't think that dim Apthine and his crew were
thinking that they were going to win anything with this film,
or they would be the most groundbreaking thing. And I
almost would love to wish I could sit down with
mister dim Apthino and just ask him is this a
comedy or is it a serious film? Because just the
(30:55):
way it's done, as I said, it almost has this
Batman sixty six vibe about it because some stuff is
so exaggerated. But I guess we'll never know when it
comes to the when it came to just the origin
of this and what they thought about when they were
creating this, it's like, oh, we're just going to do
a spoof and just do something like this, but man,
it was bad. Anyways, getting this will be interesting. I
(31:18):
suppose getting them to ratings. What do you give that?
Pooh man, how it's end?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Oh it's getting a six? There's no like, you can't
it doesn't. It doesn't pass the quote unquote sniff test.
It's bad on so many levels, but it's the best
kind of bad possible. If you go into it like rotten,
like Attack of the Killer Tomatoes level of Shenanigans, you'll
enjoy it immensely.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
This is not.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Black Panther Captain America, none of that. It's not even
Doctor Strange from seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Bet.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's just it's a whole different level of everything.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well said, I'm actually gonna give this a four out
of ten. There were there were moments I enjoyed, as
I said, even though the score kept repeating itself, because
you had like three tracks, like remind me of an
old school video game where you get into certain levels
and you have a certain theme, you have other levels,
you get another theme. They had literally three pieces written
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for this this particular film, And like I said, the
puh Man theme began to grow on me the more
I heard it, because it was constantly in your ears
every time that Tony turned was doing Puma Man stuff.
Other than that, I said, before I thought it was
polly executed. The writing was was there any writing? And
the only kind of has said saving grace of this
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film I think was Donald pleasants who were kind of
earns those four points that I'm giving to today's movies.
So I guess said Charles, if you're listening, thank you
for recommending this movie. At least we got to talk
about it. But wow, I just hope that someday somebody
will come along saying, you remember that cheesy movie that
Italian directed in nineteen eighty, Let's try and do it again,
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only make it make sense. We'll see If not, this
is all we'll ever get when it comes to the
Puma Man world. So, speaking of recommendations, Keith, what would
you like to recommend to the class this week?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
So this is going to be a classic AVS TV series.
It's called The Greatest American Hero and if you thought
um Man Blue weird, you have to watch it at
least once.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
DJ Nick.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
It is the same level, but a slightly better budget
and head writing. It is just completely bonkers, over the top.
I loved every minute of it. So Puma Man is
in the same wheelhouse as Greatest American Hero. You could
also pick a lot of these shows like v Greatest
American Hero, Max Headroom another horrible TV series, bad budget
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and everything, but it is amazing to watch.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
It's so amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
They rebooted it, so you know it could have been
that bad though. And My Secret Identity, so if anybody's
checked that out, that's another one of those weird, low
budget superhero TV series. All of these are gonna be
like in the realm of cheesy superhero so it fits
right in with Puma Man and you'll enjoy every minute
of it, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I have to ask, is my secret identity the one
which has the song You'll never guess my Secret Identity?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Uh huh oh?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
So yeah, in Italian here was known as my friend
Ultraman is what it was called, because I guess his
persona was Ultraman. I guess.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, he gets shot with a laser and he gets
all these powers and abilities essentially a lotly like Puh
Man's powers and abilities, and I think he turned beat.
That's like his superhero name. But yeah, it was called
My Secret Identity.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And it was the dude who flew around with spray
cans right.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yes, okay, because he couldn't control himself. He just kind
of aerosol canned himself around.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Then, yes, I saw it, and as I said, the
title pray over here was my friend Ultraman. So there
you go. So I have watched that, and I will
say the theme song was very catchy, was very of
its time, but it was absolutely, absolutely h It definitely
was one of my childhood memories, one of my favorite
childhood memories. When it comes to recommendations on my end,
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I will go the other way. I mean, I did
mention this film if you haven't seen it, and I've
now made an appointment of watching it, because my knowledge
of James Bond is scarce at best when it comes
I actually I haven't seen James Bond films. I've only
seen one and that was with Pierce Brosnan way back
when I was actually kind of dragged in the theater
(35:36):
to see that one. But it was it was fun enough.
I would definitely recommend you Only Lived Twice, because I
think if you want to see Donald Pleasance being Donald pleasant,
it is most menacing. Check out nineteen sixty seven You
Only Live Twice, of course with the late great Sean
Connery and of course mister Pleasance. And yeah, I from
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what I've been told by Bond fans, it's definitely a classic,
and I'm sure I'll be able to confirm all this
once I finally sat down to watch it. So that's
my recommendation. So, ah, Keith, when you're not here discussing
Italian classics likes whom a Man, where can folks find
you on the interwebs?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Excuse me?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Well, just recently I've had a short stint on Star
Trek the Undiscovered podcast. I went from barely being on
there at all to like five episodes of this season practically,
so that new episode should be dropping, I believe Friday.
And I was also on last week's episode, so you
had me back to back there where else am I?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I was also on the first episode of Real Reaction.
And then there's always the Hour of Comics is upon
us their archived version because I haven't been.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
On there in a hot minute.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And then usually I'm here with you talking about weird,
crazy movies that are recommended by our friends that try
to torment us. And then you can find me on
our Facebook page obviously, and you can just drop a comment.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Request chat whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
We're talking about, pretty much anything cartoons, colm books, anime, lions, tigers,
bears are.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Mine sounds great, and the folks if you check out
Keith's appearances on the The aforementioned podcasts are Chazz, Star
Trek and Discovered podcast because he always has fantastic insights
and he's often schooling me on Star Trek because I
am not a tricky by any stretch of the imagination,
but he always feeds me this wonderful information and I
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definitely appreciate that. When it comes to myself, you can
find me at my day job hosting the radio show
Whiskey and Cigarettes, where we play the very best and
nothing but the best of country music for you guys
from Alabama to Zach Brown. More information about that, I
think he's our website which is Whiskey and Cigarettes show
dot com. Podcast Wise, you can also find myself, Zan
Sprouse or Rachel Friend on gold Standard, the Oscars podcast,
(37:52):
where we have reviewed all the best picture winning movies
in chronological order. We're now going back to selecting movies
that we selecting movies and having returning and new guest
co host bring their favorite films to the gold Stand
in theater speaking of comedies and farces. Coming up next
this week as of this recording, will be reviewing a
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movie that Rachel picked and that is the Classic comedy
Monty Python and the Holy Grail, so I'm sure we'll
definitely have a great time talking about that one. And last,
let's say not least myself and the aforementioned Charles Staggs
have wrapped up our review of Daredevil Born Again on
the fandom Zone podcast. We're going to be gone from
(38:34):
there for a couple of months and then we'll be
coming back to review the second season of The Sandman.
So I drove the bus when it came to Daredevil
because I tend to do the Marvel related stuff. Charles
does the DC from Vertigo and all other related stuff,
so he'll be driving the bus to that one. So
that will be sam Man season two and spin things
(38:56):
to come on this show next time, as we prepare
for the upcoming movie The Thunderbolts, will actually be taking
on a rewatch, in this case the first time watched
for Keith, a rewatch for me, and that will be
the twenty twenty one Hate Shortland film Black Widow. So ah, Keith,
anything you'd like to add on our next movie or
(39:18):
anything else before we sung.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Off real quick.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
If none of you on gold Standard, give Mondy Python
ten coconuts, you're all none of my friends anymore. Just
gonna put that out there. That's a passive aggressive threat
for you and your co hosts. You can share that
with them, use that information as you will. About Black Widow,
this is weirdly gonna be a first watch and the
only reason why I have not watched it before is
(39:42):
because they ruined her story. We already know she dies,
so how we get to her being dead? Little relevance
and it was just mostly, you know, a story for
filling in a blank that nobody really asked for or
they did, but it was a decade earlier and now
we just don't care.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
So it'll be interesting. I'm gonna go with it.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
As little you know malice as I can, but you know,
I already have kind of a little preconceived notion, but
I'm going to try to hunker down and not be
too judgy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Well, we'll definitely see what you make of it. Of course,
this was the movie that introduced us to Yelena Bilova,
who of course played by the wonderful Florence Pew, who
will be among those appearing in Thunderbolts of course, amongst others.
So this was literally the movie that introduced us to
this character. That we got to see her as well
when it came to Hawkeye, where she had some rather
(40:33):
memorable moments. So I will save my thoughts for this
one because I'm actually gonna rewatch it and see if
those thoughts of mine are confirmed. So, folks, as always,
thanks listening show and supporting us. We'll see you next
time with Black Widow. Until then, thank you so much
for the privage your time. Stay super Shout muppy
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