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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, Welcome to Happy Horror Time. My name is Tim Murdoch.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And my name is Matt Pause Emmert. How's it going everyone.
We have a very special episode today because we have
invited on some friends of the podcast to join us
in this movie review. We actually were on their show
a few months ago if you caught that, and so
we're just gonna jump right into it, and I want
(00:34):
to introduce to you Joe and Alison from Queer Cinema
Catch Up. Hi, Hey, guys, So I just want to
do it so for our listeners. I've done this before,
where like I try to explain people's show and then
I'm like, why don't I just let them explain it?
So Alison tell listeners who have no idea what you
(00:57):
guys talk about and how it started like a little
back crown on Queer Cinema Catcha Sure.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So hey everybody, we are a podcast and YouTube channel
that looks at film, TV and miscellaneous topics through a
queer lens. And we all got started because Joe and
I are former roommates and former childhood French slash friends
slash neighbors who always loved film and TV. And then
I had to move away when I was a young kid,
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and we kind of lost touch until we both ended
up moving to La needed a roommate, and then we
were like, we love talking about movies and TV.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
We're both queer. Can we make this into a podcast?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And that is what Queer cinema, the origin story of
quercinma catchup if you will.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I love that. So like lifelong friends, now podcast partners.
What's next?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
We got it up?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
The stakes Joe marriage, Lavender marriage and then Joe, So
I heard.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I was going to say a little Birdie told me,
but actually that was you the You are the little bird.
You're such a little bird. Like, how did you find
out about us? Because I heard that you may have
seen us in a certain panel.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Yes, so we are friends with Nick and Joseph the Fist,
Shelley Move your review podcasts and I was invited to
see one of their panels for a Nightmare and elm
Street two.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
What's the documentary called?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's called Dream Queen My Nightmare.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Yeah, and you both were panelists on that too, and
so I thought it was just a great opportunity. I
reached out to you guys and invited you onto our podcast,
and yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Was really cool. What about us appealed to you? Was
it our incredibly good look?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Look?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Look was it Tim's like? Was it a sexy smile?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
But we all know that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And also Jacob our producer was moderating that panel. That
was really fun and we don't we didn't. I don't
think did we get video of that. I don't think
we did, but it would be nice to release if
we did. But basically we were in this panel where
they showed the documentary Scream Queen My Nightmare on elm Street,
which is about Mark Patten and all of Nightmare on
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Elstrey Part two and the queerness of it in his
life and his career and how it affected It's a
great documentary.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
This is audio of us talking that night.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh yes, so they we were like randomly recommended by
the Fish Jelly guys who have a great podcast to
join them in this podcast and we had never done
a panel like that, and but it was really fun
and now I want to do NonStop panels.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
What do you mean too? I am just a panel maniac.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And do you guys remember So we went on their
show Queersimima Catchup and I remember because we went to
your place in person, and we haven't done that in
like years.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
It's like, what's it like to be out in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Like, wait, we do everything over zoom. But like, we
met you guys in person, and we talked about What
Keeps You Alive? That movie it was like a twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
First off, the way you delivered that, it almost didn't
sound like a title.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What Keeps You but like show it's like, I want
to say, it's a lesbian thriller. Is that would that
be accurate?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't. It's not even I mean, it happens to
have a lesbian couple, but it's really more like a
like a survival cat and mouse type thriller, which I
think you guys liked that movie, right, I did.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I loved it, but I really did.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We were so impressed by that, and we were looking
for a movie that like was horror and related to us,
that had like kind of either some sort of queer
characters or something. And that movie is like so under
rated and a lot enough people know about that, So
check out What Keeps You Alive. Suddenly we're going I got.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The same promotion of the movie. We're seeing today. Could
you imagine Drop? I mean like Drop is everywhere in
my neighborhood. It's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, that's a crazy Well it's because so Drop. The
movie we're talking about today was directed by Christopher land
And now I'm sure everybody's familiar with Christopher Landen right now,
because he is. He did Happy Death Day, Happy Death
Day to You, Freaky Happy Gilmore, Happie Gilmoremmer, Happy Days.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Happy Days. He was like, he hired Bonzie, He's amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, he got to start on the Paranormal Activity movie.
First off, have you guys seen a lot of Christopher
land In movies? Were you familiar with them before this?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Did he do Disturbia as well?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, that was one of his earlier movies.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Okay, that I've seen Disturbia and otherwise, I think it's
a pretty big blank spot for me because I haven't
seen Paranormal Activity.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I have a death Day. I know about them all.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Happy death Day, you'd love it's so good, Happy Death
Day to you. I also really enjoyed that one too.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So I loved Happy Death Day like that was one
of those movies that like I saw it, I saw
it multiple times, like I would show people and everything,
and then I was so excited to see Happy Death
Day to You and it just didn't have like the
same magic. I felt like a guy.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I feel like the sequel is almost like an episode
of Happy Days to bring it all back. Also, it's
kind of sick, Tommy. It's written kind of like like
an episode of like Quantumly. I don't know, but I
still loved it.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm telling you, Allison, definitely the first one. I mean,
see the second one too, but you're gonna love the
first one. It's just, you know, we talk about all
the time on the show because we see a lot
of horror comedies and so many movies can't get the
formula right of like how to balance horror with comedy
and do it in a way that either isn't too
cheesy or too over the top. And this one does great.
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My issue with Happy Death Day to You is that
it took Happy Death Day like a simple Groundhog daysh
movie related to Slasher, and it like expanded it into
like seven different alter realities and it got confused.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Which is easy for me to follow.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And that's so crazy that you remember disturbing and then so, Joe,
have you seen so the Paranormal Activity sequels, I think
he started writing them and then he I think directed
part five, and he's been involved with like the whole series.
Have you seen the whole Paranormal Activity series?
Speaker 7 (06:57):
The first one?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh, so you don't know anything about Chris.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Did you direct the first one?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
No? No, he wasn't. Third he directed the fifth. He
started writing on the second and third. To be honest, like,
I'm like part of me is a little jealous of
Christopher Landon's crew because he's like one of those. He's
like a gay, proud out gay man with a great husband, kids,
every beautiful family, and he loved horror and he got
started like writing, and now he's directing, and now he's
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become like a household name in horror, horror comedy. In fact,
he the big drama with the screen series. Was attached
to direct Scream seven before Kevin Williamson was asked to
direct it, and he dropped out after all the Crazylita.
He dropped out after all the Melissa Barrera stuff when
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she got fired and it was like a whole thing.
I don't know if you guys called all that drama.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So are you saying he dropped out before that drama
erupted or as a result of.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So, I mean what I got from it is that
Scream seven was announced, Melissa Brera was fired. Uh, and
then there was so much backlash and a lot came
on him because he was the director.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Everyone was like, you fired her, and he's like, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, He's like, this was the studio had nothing to
do with it. But he was getting like death threats
to his kids. He had to get the FBI involved,
and it was just such a miserable experience at that point.
He dropped out because it was just too much, and
they like kind of redid everything with Scream seven. So
I feel kind of bad because I know he said
that directing a screen movie was like a lifelong dream
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of his.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I feel like there's so time.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, and also but also like I've saw seen some
interviews that he did for Drop and what he did
say was that it's almost like the whole the saying
when a what is it when a door closes a
window or when a window.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yes, it goes when it when a door closes, drop
out the window.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, when a door closes, jump out the window at
the window, and then get sucked. Yeah, belonging by a
tableclaw health the window and you're totally fine. Yeah either way.
He said that all the Scream craziness led him to
this movie, which he's really proud of. He got to
direct it and do like and he's he just loved
doing it, so it all worked out for him. But yeah,
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that was some drama for him. M hmm. It was rough.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
And Scream seven is the newest one that's going to
come out, right.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, comes out next year with Nev Campbell and Courtney
Cox and every dead killer coming back.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Well, but what's Wednesday that actors are coming back to?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And she.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Today, I just feel like she's.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Name her name, So Jenner Taka recently came out on
the news and she was like she made it clear
because I think for a while they were saying that
it was just like scheduling conflicts, but then she made
a statement that was more clear. It's like, no, because
so and so was dropped out, I decided that I
was going to go to its project either, So you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Know what the funniest part about that is. And Christopher
Landon did some interviews where he said she was never
attached when he signed on, which then like kind of
contradicted what she said, and now everybody's like, is she
telling the truth? Is he times it? There's just like
I feel like or screen fans are just looking for
drama and everything I wanted to see a movie.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I couldn't believe it was actually news. Like I was like,
this is so water under the bridge. I was like,
nothing against Jenn Ortega. I have nothing against her. He
hates but who cares?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, I mean I kind of agree with Tim. It's
almost like for like true Street fans, she's fine. Yeah,
like her career is great. Fine. Screen fans get Nev
Campbell back and Kevin Williamson, who's like that, like the
creator of the series. So it's like everyone should be happy,
but nobody everybody wins, especially because he's still drop. Yes exactly,
So yes, so getting to drop. So okay, so we'll
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jump into drop. Now were you guys, because I remember
we talked with you guys, and I had talked to
Joe and I was like, yeah, we'd love to have
you guys on a on a show like pick a
big movie coming out, and I gave you a bunch
and you picked this one. Now, what made you interested
in this one so much?
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Or was it?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Allison?
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Probably marketing wise, I've seen this trailer so many goddamn times.
This is like like drop like sticks at least for
this year. I've seen this trailer at least like twenty
five times. I was like, you know what, it's there,
the marketing is there, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Did you want to drop it?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Like it's wow, we can only do five drop jokes,
I know, and every yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
And then the counter of how many times a.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah? So? And then Allison, did you you obviously saw
the trailer for this like were you interested? Like, say,
we weren't doing this podcast? Would you have seen this movie? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
So, when I saw the trailer the first time, because
I also saw it one zillion times, it reminded me
of that movie from the two thousand's Red Eye, which
I love, I love, and I feel like the movie
did have a similar structure to Red Eye, and so
I was and I like Megan Vey from The White
Loha Lotus, So I'm like, all right, those two.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Elements are good.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That said, the more times I saw it, the more
times I started questioning, is this the best way to
go about murdering someone?
Speaker 7 (12:07):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Like the logic of we're gonna take somebody out, we're
gonna use a date, and we're gonna be doing a
very public place.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It kind of started to fall apart from me after
each trailer.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Viewing, so I kind of like I started being really interested,
and then my interest waited each time I saw the
trailer because of the logic premise issue.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But I still probably would have seen it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I can't wait to talk about because the movie
could have been called text to Death. Yeah, literally was like,
that's original.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Couldn't you see that?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'll do you don't steal it to me to be originally.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm gonna write it tonight, Texted to Death starring you
Can Murdoch texting Tim. Yeah, so, and I gotta say,
and we asked Joe this because okay, so listeners, we
ended up going we saw this with Joe in person.
We do do things in person, simes. And we were
talking about does anybody nowadays and not that I'm the
most into it with like gen Z culture by any means,
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even though I don't think these stars were gen Z,
They're they're definitely in their thirties right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, yeah, I did say on his profile he was
thirty two, and I was like, I'd be a pin shoulder.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Maybe thirty eight. But so they were talking about like
drops being a thing. Now, I don't know about you guys,
unless I'm really out of touch. The only time I've
even used the word drop to talk about sending technologies
when I air dropped something to someone like pictures or
a video or to my computer. Have you guys even
heard of digit drops?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So I think that was invented.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I think it's air They explanned the movie too, because
what's the guy's name from it entered us? The actor
He even explains like, oh, it's like air dropper, It's
like kind of an older technology.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Oh his name is the Blake Lively Defender.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, No, his name was Brandon Slinar Splinar was the
like the male lead of this film. Yeah, Brandon name? Okay, yeah, what, no,
go for it. Oh. I was just gonna say, yeah,
it did seem like it was something that was sort
of made up. I mean, everybody knows air drop, but
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I had never heard digit drops, and I didn't know
if that was something new or something they made up
for the purpose of the movie.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
M I think it was made up. I did.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I just did. Yeah, but the memes they used were
great because A yeah, yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
I just think just reflecting on the movie though, So
who turns out to be the person sending these memes?
Like he doesn't look like the person doesn't look like
a person that would send memes. And then also were
they designing the memes at the restaurant? You know, like,
because a lot when you think back the logit of everything,
it's like, what, well.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, it's memes mixed with drops. So he mixed memes,
drop memesdrop.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
No, no, well means dropping. He's he was dropping memes.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
But he was also designing the memes himself, right, because
I don't think usually a meme you pulled from on
one and someone else's created okay, curated for the experience?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Right, how fast was he making these memes?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Okay? I can speak to that only because can we spoil?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Also who the oh yeahs of course this guy's on
a blind date and is creating memes while also talking
to his city.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
There's unless she gets mean and leaves, so she gets
mad and lee.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, there's a lot of logic that has to be
a little bit suspended because so what I was going
to say is so I work in an ad agency
and sometimes we do social for our clients, and we
can take like public domain memes like that and customize
them for the client. Now I've found sites where you
can find the meme already on there and just type
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in your caption and have it generated right away, So
I can speak to it being very simple to do that.
But that still doesn't like negate the fact that Hillary,
the guy who was doing is on a date and
you do have to be on your phone like looking typing,
and he's doing it so quickly unless he had them
stockpiled and ready to go, knowing.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Maybe she's also in his sixty So I just feel
like that is another part where I'm would this man
be that adept at technology to be able to do that?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
How many questions? Okay, so let's jump into it because so,
like the movie starts and there is kind of a
jarring opening scene where we're introduced. Okay, so our main
character is Megan? Is it fakie? Is that how you?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Probably? I think?
Speaker 7 (16:16):
So?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Okays? And by the way, I did love her in
White Lotus also season two. She's great. So she it
looks like we're getting a scene from like the climax
of this movie. We find out later it's not. It's
from her abusive cast relations.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
By the end of the movie we saw I was
like I want to go back and be what. Yeah,
like what led to this horrible? Because it's almost like
sleeping with the enemy. I was like, well, this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, she is beaten up badly, crawling away from a
guy who has a gun and he's like threatening her,
and you think he's gonna shoot her, and then like
it switches to you think it's one of those movies
where it starts with like a you know something in
the climax and then takes you back.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Is that what you guys thought too that it was?
It was?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
And also something about the way.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Wasn't there a voiceover where she said let me take
you back or let me It kind of tricked you
a little bit with her voice over taking you to
the present, and so I definitely thought it was a
flash forward and not a flashback.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, and we saw the guy's face. I was like
taking the whole movie looking out for the guy from
the moment you see I'm like, where is he in
the restaurant?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I don't see you, well, not the guy at the
very beginning that I guess it's her ex husband. And
then the guy that she thought it was there was
another handsome man that was accusing, and the guy that
she was on a date with all kind of looked
very similar. So I was like, that's confusing. I'm very confused.
I was like, what am I watching? And then I
walked down.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I'm like, so many gorgeous white men are I was.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Like, well, I think all three, Joe, Matt and I
all agreed that the guy that she thought was the
one doing all the texting was the cutest.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Was the one meaning his sister, Yes, the one meaning
his sister was yeah. So okay, so we're set up,
and we were introduced to Violet. That's her. That was
her name, day Violet, and she is a single mother.
She has a very young son, her sister and her clothes,
her cool sister, and like she's getting ready for her
first date in years. It's a date from an app.
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I'm sure we all can identify with that, and she's
of course really nervous, but she wants to go on,
and her sister's gonna watch her kid, so she goes out. Now,
there was one thing I wanted to get your guys
to fidy on this, because I turned the Tim right
away and I said suspect. Right when this happened, the
guy asked, where's your power meter? Random guy in the
beginning who ends up being one of the killers spoiler
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alert that just looks for a power meter. I turned
to Tim and I said, suspect, because why did they
put that in there? Did either of you guys catch that?
Or am I just so like tuned into this shit
that like I can't did you guys catch that?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
I did not. I totally forgot about him. I was
out of my mind. I think I was still because
it came off right from the opening scene, and so
I feel like I was still like really digesting that
opening scene. What I really like about that opening scene
is it's nothing we've seen from the trailer. Like Megan's
wearing like a really red striking dress. She's in like
the like top of this like really fancy restaurant with
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like these really warm colors. So it was like very
jarring to open up on that. So I think I
was like still trying. I was still like to try
to figure out what that first scene was about so yeah, yeah,
it should have been obviously, but it was not thought.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I thought it was saying like, oh she's is she
a therapist or what is her job?
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, she had a trauma therapist. Yeah, she looked out
the window and she was like. I just thought it
was kind of like I didn't take it as a
red herring. I was just like, oh, she's adapting to
this life where everyone could be.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
But I didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Because she got she got jump scared, right, Yeah, yeah,
she got frighten from him. So that was like, oh,
it's just our first like like scare.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What did you think?
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I definitely thought I mean I could see the interpretation
of like she's somebody who's jumpy or has had experiences,
Slash is working in a world where she's kind of
primed to see the danger, and then there's that kind
of scary jump scare. But I don't know, someone's checking
your meter in the back, know how to get into
your house. I'm like, yeah, he definitely is involved. So
I it was.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Just like it reminded me of when we saw Hard
Eyes and the IT guy remember randomly is like and
I don't know if you guys saw hard eyes, but
like he randomly in the middle, like between all this,
asks her out on the date.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And we're like, what do see the killer? I was
like in this movie?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I just thought it was funny.
Oh and we do get the background that her I'm
sure you guys called it, like her sister. She keeps saying,
maybe I shouldn't go out on this date, and the
sister's like, not everyone is Blake, And I got the
feeling obviously that's her ex boyfriend who was abusive and
you know, heavy topic, very serious topic. But I liked
that they had her taking whatever trauma she had and
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was trying to help other people, which was nice.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I guess this is my big question of this entire film.
Biggest question, Well, was she a therapist before Blake or
daring Blake or after Blake.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well that's a good question because she says later on
that she's a specifically worked with domestic violence victims, and
then her date's like, oh, why do you do that?
Explaining that oh, because of experience, So it does seem
like maybe it was inspired after Yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Don't we hear that it was like the events that
we saw in the opening scene was like two years ago, because.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
She the date even more than that, because basically five years.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
How Tooby is you know Toby, I.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Think it's been like he's like five or six now,
and he was a bit about one or so in.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
The Yeah, I took it from the events of her
past is what got her into therapeu is how I
took Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, no, I interpreted that way too. So she goes
to the day and the greatest thing about this date
and I mean, as anybody who's gone on a first date,
I have never gone on a first date that is
this fancy. Like I was telling Tim and Joe. This
restaurant is a anniversary, engagement party or milestone birthday location,
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not a first date. It is called Palette and it
is at the top of some building in Chicago where
it's like mirror view of everything and everyone's dressed so fancy.
And I was like, wow, that's a first date. I
was was blown away by that. Tim, have you any
first dates at restaurants like that?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I actually have. I wasn't like getting texted the entire night,
but yeah, like like I can't remember when, but it
was like a blind day and like don't you I mean,
I don't know if you've in either anyone on this
podcast has ever experienced like like oh, someone's like, oh
I know a gay person, you know you're a gay person,
and then that you go to like a really nice restaurant,
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like it's only happened once or twice.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I have never. I've gone to coffee shops for my
first dates.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
How about you, guys, Yeah, I'd say coffee shops, wine bars,
dive bars.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yes, Joe, if you've been to palette. No, Tim, I
want to know took you on this blind day not
with him.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
In different podcasts.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Wow, I for sure I'm gonna ask this question. Everybody's
gonna be like, yeah, it's crazy, Tim. Oh yeah, I
go there.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I mean, I'm not saying like we obviously were not
a match. I'm still single. But it was fun.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay, wait did he pay? Did you pay? Did you split?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And I have got nothing?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So he paid?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh my god? And drinks also like yeah, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
How wrangle myself a date like this?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I'm a Sun date and we're still friends on the
Faith pages.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, when we're done recording, I'm gonna find out whose
person is because I want to know who takes him
on that as a first day anyway, I have never
had a date like that, a first day like that,
to be said, I've never gone to the nice front
of my life. No, so she's there. So then we're
introduced very tactically, which I thought was good on the
director and how he introduced some of the side characters
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that were meant to be suspects. We meet the bartender.
She's cool, she's like trying to talk to Violet, like, oh,
she knows she's on a first day, and she seems
very friendly, but there's always like the thoughts, oh, maybe
she there's some ulterior motive. She also meets the creepy
piano player who he kind of hits on her. I think, yeah,
(23:55):
there's the piano player. She meets the guy that Tim
was saying that the or she sees the guy really well,
she put.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It together because he literally keeps bumping into everyone in
the restaurant. She's like, it's damn yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And she meets him. He's apparently waiting for his sister,
but his sister's taking really really long. And then she
meets the guy who is also on a blind date,
who seems really friendly. He's like an older guy and
he's talking to her a lot and everything, and he's
the one who ends up, of course being our villain.
But just questions for you guys, did you suspect any
(24:26):
of these characters at the beginning all of them? What
were your thoughts on all the side characters they presented.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
Well, the guy that gets bumped into a lot, I
thought like, he is so obvious that I thought they're
gonna trick us and be like, it is so obvious,
it actually is him. So I was kind of riding
with him for most of the movie.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
M Okay, I.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Kind of wanted it to be the waiter, you know
what I'm saying, Like I felt like he was.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I mean, it would have almost been a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Too, because he was such a goofy character that like
having him be the killer would have been almost two
you obvious of a reversal. But that's who I was
hoping it was gonna be anyway. And also I thought
he kind of looked like the meter man from the
opening scene. Oh, I'm like, oh, maybe that's him.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I don't know where.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
It's his own section that we talked about. He was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I was yes, sign, I was the only one laughing
in my theater.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
I was laughing because was talking.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
We okay, I forgot to interest him because finally Violet's
date comes. His name was Henry. I think his name
was Henry.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah. I was born in nineteen nineties, so I can't
do math, so I don't know how old that is.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh wow, yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
This is.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
The movie.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
And I also say thirty two on my dating profile.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I know Tim and I are like, oh no, we're
like in like junior high and everything. So yeah, so
her date comes right away. They have I will say
they did get have good chemistry. It was very easy
conversation fun. They get seated right next to the window,
which was scary, and their waiter was this gloriously beautifully
(26:05):
flamboyant guy named Matt. I love that that his name
was Matt, and he was like he could have had
his whole a whole comedy show. Now we need to
talk to Tim about this waiter because he was played
by Jeffrey self and Tim had a slight connection with
this guy.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
No, that sounds way more.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I dated this.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Adam. I met him once. He does comedy and I
I've done stand up, so I've met him in the
comedy world. His name is Jeffrey Self, and he's he
does a lot of podcasts and one time I heard
a podcast where he went on and he's written like
a lot of books. I can't remember the name of
the book. I think it's called like self Sabotage, but
(26:48):
he like a self help bide Jeffrey Self, Yes, but
he was like he talks about how at one time
he was like a sex worker and like he like
and it's very funny, Like he talks about how like
he hid in like a closet and U clauset. That's
kind of funny, and like the person that he was
(27:09):
working with, like they I guess there was three people.
I don't know, but he does like a whole chapter
about it, and I find that more fascinating than the
movie would. Drop.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, I want to read that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, it was hilarious. Like he's that like to describe
him if you haven't seen this movie, not only is
he very flamboyant, but he's like he says, it's his
first a his first table, and he's like making jokes,
but some of them are uncomfortable and you can tell
he's nervous, and it's like that continuing to ramble while
you're nervous, but it's funny.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Like I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. Oh no, no totally, but like
he it's hilarious. And it does add like a little
bit of comic relief to the movie because right after
that point it starts getting really serious because Violet starts
getting all of the drops, the digit drops, digit drops
of your gen v It.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Kind of takes like, I mean, a text message would
have worked, but with the funny things that we've seen,
the memes, which, by the way Jennifer Tilly on Real
Housewives calls the mimis maybe uh, it kind of takes
it out of having the visual of these funny things
that we've all seen. I don't know, maybe that was
just me.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, it was there, like funny. But they keep saying
like she first like ignores them, and her date says, oh,
if someone's sending you a drop, they've got to be
like within the room, which right away is creepy, but
then like what the only time she finally accepts him,
and when she finally takes it seriously is when she
gets one that says, check your security cameras and she
sees a guy with a gun in her house and
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suddenly it's not funny anymore and she freaks out. And
I will say, I did think Megan FAYI did a
great job of like showing that expression, just the expression
of her terror, because I don't know, have you guys
seen has are you from? A?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Has Megan been in? Can you name anything else other
than White Lotus that she's been in?
Speaker 7 (28:57):
No, she got her started in like another TV show
that I think was like.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
On this whatever, the bold type maybe Yeah, I've heard
it's good, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
The Bold that's so excited because my favorite show of
all time is The Bold and Beautiful Him.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Later Lo now CBS Daytime. I need to get up
on that.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Only if you like between fifty and seventy years old
or Tim.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I've headed that way we all are.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, No, I uh. Tim has had me watch some
episodes of Bold and Beautiful, and I will say, like
it's mildly entertaining. It is so over the top, like
you know, if you've seen any soap, like the way
they zoom in on somebody's face for so many seconds
just to show a reaction to like one line of
dial Well, the show's only eighteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's only it's only thirty minutes, but with commercial without commercials,
it's like eighteen twenty minutes. Anyways, I've watched it, oh
my god, twenty five years, maybe longer anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, So so she gets freaked out, and the thing
is is that right away it says like, don't tell
your date, don't tell anyone, or we're gonna kill your son,
and she actually witnesses the gunman like knock out her
sister and lock her son in a room, and like,
I don't know. I always try to put myself in
(30:16):
these situations about like what do you do? Because you
want to tell someone to get help, But like, I
don't know if I could keep quiet in a situation
where I'm panicking like that, Do you guys think, Tim,
like you're getting something, someone's threatening your family.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I would have caved in a second and told my
date and I would have been killed.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, well, I mean your family would have been killed
or something. But like I, yeah, do you guys think
because I agree with Tim? I don't know. I'm such
a blabbermouth. I don't know if I could stay quiet.
Do you guys think you could do that? Knowing what's
on the line? Such a serious question.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
It is a serious question.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I on the one hand, I'm also very like talkative
and I love to share everything, so I could see
my one world where I'm dying, I wouldn't be able
to keep it quiet. But in another hand, I feel
like in certain stressful emotional situations, I am good at
keeping things contained, So.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Maybe I could do it. Joe, what about you?
Speaker 7 (31:15):
I think I like freeze. That's my like panic mode,
and so I think I wouldn't be able to even
like talk, like my date would very clearly notice that,
like I'm not resplying to anything they're saying, or like
being very odd, So I trouble in that situation.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's the thing we did notice. Like she is doing
well at like acting crazed but trying to fake it
for her date, and he obviously knows something is wrong.
But the first thing that this person instructs her to
do is to get the SD card out of her
dates camera and crush it. And she is good, And
I will say she can think on her fee because
she's able to get him to like leave the table
(31:51):
enough so she can look at his camera, and right
away she sees he has pictures. He says he works
for the mayor and he has pictures of all these
like financial statements. So obviously he captured some like embezzlement
or something.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Was that part of the task is that she had
a look through the photos like why she was just
curious the audience let me just quickly flip through as
by Gates walking back to the table.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
That's so true. I never thought about it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
She didn't need I would have to have someone explain
to me what an SD card was. Yes, dam what
I'm just saying, Tim.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
In that situation, they're like, grab the SD car. What's
an SD card? It's in the camera? Which camera? They're like,
fucking forget just killing.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
But she wasn't well thought out as a murder plot.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well they must have known that she but she is.
And also, like you said, there are so many different
types of emotional reactions a person can have. I know,
the person responsible does say they're familiar with her past
that she like, so they know her. I guess her
fortitude that she could probably do something like this. But
what if you did get someone who's just like I'm
out of here and runs out in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Did anyone think like okay, like because she did ask him,
do you think the mayor's a good guy? And then
I thought, okay, what if her dates on it in
on it? And then the bartender I was like, what
if it's like a big conspiracy, Like, yeah, everyone's in
on it.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I definitely thought the tables not being able to you know,
how do they get the wires in there so they
could hear everything without the restaurant's participation. I definitely thought
it was gonna be a baar conspiracy theory than it
really was.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You're totally right, because what we also find out is
that because she tries to like switch tables because she
sees that the tables bug, there's cameras around, Like she
notices how this person who's in the restaurant and digit
drop in her. I just like saying that is able
to like keep track of every move and know if
she's talking about it. And she tries to leave tables
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or sorry, switch tables, and the person says, if you
switch tables, your son's dead. And then she tries to backtrack,
and everyone thinks she's nuts, like she's faking being afraid
of heights, like it is chaos.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Like, but they keep up. This is what the film
does so well between the two dates is they keep
the etiquette so well because they keep saying like, oh, okay, okay,
and then like and the waiter a way says like enjoy,
and like the person at the front is like enjoy.
Like I would love to know how many times they
said enjoy. We're gonna watch it again, Like, they don't
ever drop the ball with the etiquette. I just had
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dropped the ball.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, no, you're totally right, like and and we were
asking like halfway through. I remember thinking, Okay, if you're
her date, she is so traumatized and doing crazy things,
you'd be like, this isn't working. And he does do that,
so I'm glad they put that in. Then they have
this slightly weird kind of rom comi moment where she
like pulls him in for a kiss and says I'm
(34:39):
so sorry, like stay with me. And that was a
little cheesy, but it got him to stay there. What
did you guys think of that moment? Wait?
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Is that the moment when he's like writing the check
and he's.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Like leave, yes, I it was.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
I loved it. The music played it was like dramatic
slow motion and you're like, what is mega gonna do?
And she just like very dramatically like leans in and
kisses him, and it's just like so like romantic and powerful.
And I like like the cinematography of it, like the
line design of it, Like I just thought it was brilliant.
And that's that's kind of what kept me in this
(35:14):
movie for a while too. Is like a lot of
the like the way that they like shot designed this
movie like really kept me in. Like it was just
highly stylized. So I really like I love that moment.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think it was as a moment like isolated. Yeah,
I could see why you liked it. I think for
me it took me out of the tone of like
the uh suspense and everything and is he gonna leave
and someone's hunting her and then they have a moment.
But I get why they needed it, you know, the
tone was a little all over the place.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, Yeah, I feel like I liked the kiss as well,
But and I liked that he too was like, hey
I'm done, I got I got out of here. She's
something's raw, this isn't working. But I kind of think
just based on her behavior. You know, this is like
an adult person who's probably been on men.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I think he would have left a lot sooner. It's
my it's my thing.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Yeah, Brandon was a little too conveniently, just like That's
why I was also curious if Brandam's gonna be a
bad guy in the end, because he just like forgave
so many of the strange things that were happening on
the state. Like there's a point where like, Megan, we
don't have a we don't have a clock. She's like
in the bathroom, she's ready to have the whole restaurant.
She's sitting with other people at different tables for like
forty five, you're.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Just sitting there.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Patient.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
He really, he really wants the party.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He is really patient because I think at one point
she says, like, thanks for meeting me after three months
of chatting, Oh that's true, Like and he's like, oh,
you know. She's like, you know, I've got a kid,
like I've got baggage. And he's like no, like he's
looking past all.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
No, he's a great guy. I mean forgiving. And she
does talk a little bit about the abuse in her
last relation, and she I think that he feels for
her in that regards that he knows that she's been
through a lot and maybe having a hard time with
the date. But you're right, she is gone for so long,
and she does end up bashing the SD card in
the bathroom, and there's a really funny moment where she
(37:01):
tries to pass a she tries to send a message
to these girls are there prom these pet age, bitchy girls,
And she's trying to write help on like a dollar
bill or something on.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
The No, it's on her hand with the eyeliner, and.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
The girl's like cap like like she doesn't know. And
I'm like, these girls are there for problem. But she
does get one message now for the life of me.
I turned to Joe. I could not read what she
wrote on that dollar bill that she was piano. I
thought it's it was like said hostage.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
I couldn't read the rest of them.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I think it was the address too, held something like that.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Wow, you caught that. I could not. I looked to Joe,
I said, what did that say?
Speaker 7 (37:43):
And he's like hostage or something.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean it looked really it was really ill ill
legible say that word illegible.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
But yes, that's why I gathered from it.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
Now that the topic the girls in the bathroom, so
there's like a table they're all on proms, all these
teenagers and speaking to Like the tone of this movie.
I feel like the director, having worked on Happy Death Day,
like he can just nail like comedy horror so well
and like that like balance, And I feel like this
movie is really successful when it leans into the humor
of it all. And so there's like one scene where
(38:17):
like where Megan's character is like like wants to move
tables and then and then Brandon is like, oh, I
think they can get our waiter's attention, and he looks
over in mass direction and Matt's at the table with
all the prop people and they're like and how would
be paying and all like twenty kids like hold up
their credit cards and say, oh no, Matt's gonna be
busy for a while. So I feel like when it
like leans into that humor, it's like really successful. But
(38:38):
like Megan talking about like the trauma over past, like
I'd be curious to hear everyone like it just seemed
too intense for what this movie is. Like, I like,
what is this movie like if you're gonna make me
like laugh, like make me laughing. You're telling me a
sorry about a woman who was like abused in who
almost murdered their song. Like that's just way too Yeah, intense.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Of a theme for me, and they did like that opening.
I was like, Oh, the tone's pretty serious. And then
it flip flopped, which I don't mind. A flip flop.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
That sounds so wow Tim's dating profile.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I don't have to find a flip flop. Go on,
now you're gonna have to explain that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Okay, you don't mind. I mean, I sort of regret
I'll say this because there were there were definite issues
I had with this movie, but in terms of like
the foot flopping of the tone, I okay, So it's
tough because this, to me would be I know they've
been comparing this to like a hitchcocky and thriller, and
I think that actually describes it really well, because there
were some stylistic choices that when I first saw them,
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I was a little taken out of the movie, like
when they would like dim all the lights but just
shine like a spotlight on one person. But then I realized, wait,
that's like a classic Hitchcock like theaterish move to do.
And when I thought about that more, I was like, Oh,
that's what they were going for, to have it be
more like suspense, Like I don't think this was horror, really,
it was suspense with comedic elements. And Christopher Lannon does
(40:01):
do comedy in horror so well that it is sometimes
easy to forget, like When to Be Scared. But whereas
Hathy Happy Death Day like combined horror with comedy, I
feel like this combined like suspense thriller, like almost like
a Diehard type suspense movie with comedy. And I didn't
mind that so much. But I will say the background
(40:24):
of her trauma was very heavy, but I think they
needed that because otherwise she wouldn't have been the type
of character they could get through this situation or they
could keep someone on a date with her because they
felt bad for what she had been through, do you
know what I mean? Because if she had just been
like your normal girl, the guy would have left in
a second. He'd be like, why are you being so weird?
(40:47):
But they gave her that backstory almost I feel like,
to give a reason for that.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
I don't know, that was just my yeah, and I
think it's because they want to show how she's able
to I won't I won't get too far ahead here,
but how she's able to best the villain in the
end two is because of her experience with tricky manipulators
in the past, which is what made me think a
lot of Red Eye, because I don't know everyone's seen
that movie, but I love Reddite.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And I turned to Matt and Joe and I said
red Eye.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
And then I turned it, you really tell that that
ill Joe that I said this. I said, I said
that it reminds me of Red Eye, and Tim didn't
tell me that, And then Joe turned to the first
next town. Well, you're right, I totally get what you're saying,
because it had that like it's almost like you did
you guys ever watching the show twenty four because I
love that TV show. Okay, in real time, it's showing
(41:38):
you through like this is all takes place in one night.
So just like Red Eye is all on one flight,
like you get it all.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
It also has that extra challenge of just being in
one location.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Well, and Rachel McAdams in that movie, it's revealed like
halfway through that she was attacked in a parking lot,
and so she'd already been through a situation where she
was under assault. But what I liked about what Red
Eye did, and I think that maybe Drop could have
utilized this or done this in a more successful way,
was they tried to give you that information slowly, and
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they don't actually tell you the context of her past
trauma until maybe like three quarters a way through the movie.
And I feel like Withdrop, you learn about it in
the very first scene and then there's like all these
hints about it. They have a discussion about it, so
it's not as like suspenseful or dramatic to kind of
see that twist. Oh, this is why she's so good
at this because she had this terrible pass.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
No, No. There's also not really a lot of death
in this movie. It's actually rated PG thirteen because the
only kill is she tries to and it always sucks
for like the people that get pulled into these situations
they have no part of. Like the piano player, she
tries to give him a tip and on the dollar
bill or not dollars, she's not cheap, but.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Twenty dollars twenty.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
That's when she writes the hostage things, so she slips
it to the guy. The guy sees it, and then
she gets like a drop that says, like, you shouldn't
have done that, and he collapses to the ground because
he's been poisoned. But this is what confused me. Then
he gets up and he looks like he was like jars.
And then as he walks out, she gets a message
(43:12):
that says he's in the elevator. He's not going to
make it to the ground before he dies. So to me,
in my constant looking for suspects, I thought, oh my god,
I wonder if the villain is the piano player, since
when you don't see someone actually die, they could fake it.
What if he just left so and pretended that he died, Like,
I don't know, did anybody else think.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
To cut to a one point? They show him on
the ground, Yeah, like stuff was coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
But as he goes down the well, Brandon like goes
up and is helping the pianists up, and then he
comes back to Mega and he's like, yeah, I hope
he's okay. Do you think he lives? And then I
think she gets like a drop that says, like he
will die. He won't make it down the elevator, and
then they gets just like look out the window, and
she's like, I think he's fine.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Did you, Allison think at all he could be a suspect?
Or were you just like he's good?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Guess I was actually kind of confused by that sequence, because, yeah,
because he the slow acting poison element of it, but
also he gets the tip.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
In the money.
Speaker 7 (44:16):
Yeah, and he looks at her like in horror a
few times.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Well, well, I guess because he well, okay, so they
kind of explained it later on, but what mostly confused
me is he put the money in the jar, but
we didn't even see that happen. And then he goes
to the counter. He takes a wad full of bills,
and I'm like, how do we know that he grabbed
the right bill?
Speaker 7 (44:33):
You know what I mean, I don't know what they was.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
And then he gets up there, yet he does stare
at her bunchet it.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Later on it's kind of real because he one read
what was on the bill, and then two got a
text or something that said.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Or a drop he got did you drop? Being like
if you do anything.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Then her family will die, So he's kind of trapped
in the same situation and then he makes another horrified
look at her. But just like the sequence of it was,
I'm like, I was just confused.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Do there really just so much pause?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I think the biggest uh moment of confusion for me
was that if it's a slow acting poison, why did
he immediately drop to the ground then get up and
start to have symptoms? Do you know what I mean?
Like I kind of would have preferred him starting to
look a little sick, stumbling and then he maybe falls
when he you're giving.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Chris Landen notes, Oh, no, I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I know. Look, we're it's so easy to be what
do they call like an armchair director, an armchair writer,
like whereas when you're trying to sink And by the way,
Christopher Landon didn't write this, so it like you, I
mean he directed it. But there it's so easy when
you're watching an outside and be like I would have
done it this way and I could no, of course, not.
Speaker 7 (45:40):
Like we're broadcasters. Of course, I love.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, we can nippick everything if we want. Because we
weren't involved, and I'm sure there were tons of conversations
like how are we gonna make this make sense. And
like Alison said at the beginning, the entire plot of this, like,
couldn't there have been an easier way to assassinate this guy? Like, how, guys,
I've got a crazy idea. Man, what if the little
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vial of poison the killer himself went up and distracted
the person who had their drinks and just poured it
in himself a movie?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Well, and then I'm just remembering he says at the end,
He's like, we needed you to do it because if
he just suddenly drops dead, the key witness in this case,
it'll be suspicious.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
But if a crazy.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Woman who maybe murdered her ex is the accomplice and
goes to jail for it, then we'll be off scott free,
which is very elaborate.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
It is. Yeah, So moving forward, we finally find it.
She gets a drop that's what the big thing where
it says you have to kill your date, and she
finds a vial of poison that she's supposed to put
in his drink, and she of course at first says
she can't do that, but then they're threatening her kids
and she's trying to figure her way out, and originally
she was going.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
To do it with the shots, but they said, no, no,
not at the counter, do it at the table.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
You have to do it at the table so that
they can capture on a camera. And you do see
her what looks like pour the shot of poison in
or the little bit of poison into his shot, and
right before they're gonna do the shot, she like freaks
out and knocks her wine over on him and like
caused a big commotion. And that's when we finally get
the big reveal of who's been doing this. And the
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bartender says, oh, that guy who's also on the blind date.
His date left because he's been staring at you all night,
and she's like, oh shit, maybe it's him, and she
goes to talk to him. And I will say the
switch between his nice attitude to when he became mean
was kind of jarring for me. When he's like sit down,
that kind of scared.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
But as soon as he said sit down, I was like,
all's revealed, We're done, and then I left the theater.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
Is this his first Like my question is is this
like his first job like ever doing this? Like why
is he like personally affected by everything Megan does? Like
he's like if you don't fall through this. We will
kill your son and sister. And then when like the
plan fails, he's like, we're so going to kill your
son's sister. It's like it's the gig. The jig is up,
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Like you don't have any personal investments, Like this was
just a job, Like why are you still gonna murder
her family?
Speaker 2 (48:08):
He said, I think he worked for the mayor. And
obviously the whole big plot was that her date was
a photographer who had caught him in you know, some
sort of scandal and was going to testify against him,
and they had to kill him before then, but make
it not look like an accident and make it look
like she did it. And that's when we get the
reveal that that opening scene was her abusive ex husband,
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the father of her kid, and what happened is he
threatened to kill her, then he threatened to kill their kid.
Then he finally kills himself, but apparently his family thought
maybe she had killed him, And even though she cleared
her name, a.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Lot of acts kind of convoluted. For me, I was like, okay,
You're like, get back to Drop. I was like, I
got to go back to Pala.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
She does have a great moment where she her date
comes over and it's probably like she's sitting with someone
else again, and she's like, oh, we're old friends, and
they do take the shots, and as a viewer, you're like, wait,
did Henry Brandon whatever just take the poison? And you know,
he kind of walks away and the Mastermind is all happy.
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But she you then find out that she never poured
the poison in his shot. She poured it in the
Mastermind's dessert and he's all eating his dessert, all happy,
and she now big problem. She shouldn't have revealed it
to him before he was reacting because I revealed, did
she Well?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I think it was for the satisfaction of her getting
the one up finally, And as a as viewers, we
were like, you know, she told us what's going on?
Speaker 7 (49:41):
Was that great great line he says, He's like, I've
been playing chess and you've been playing Yachta. Yeah, and
then and then he gets poisoned and she's like, Yazi,
I love.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
That took first off. As someone who loves Yaxi way
more than chess, I thought that one was hilarious, I mean,
slightly comedic, but also in a good way like she's
just like she he's like like shot and she says, YACHTSI.
But the thing is he still has some time before
the poison, you know, takes him out. And I think Joe,
to answer your question from before, like why do you
take it so personally? At that point, I think he
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was just so angry that he's gonna die because of
this girl. He's like, kill her family. I'm gonna kill
her because he's gonna die anyway, So why not be awful?
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, to hyper drive at this point, like didn't he
like throw over the table, stab the bartender, like everything
was like boom boom, boom boom, and then she flies
out the window like the movie from like zero to
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, I gotta ask.
Speaker 7 (50:32):
Because we've watched this trailer so many goddamn times. I
know at some point she ends up Daiklin out the
window to effect after this Yazi scene.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yes, after he's like he is going to take her
out and he's trying to shoot her first, her date
who just met her that night talk about man of
the year, like pushes her away and gets shot for her.
Speaker 7 (50:54):
Yes, he shoves her in a way though where he
like he like has to go out of his way
to shove her out of the way. Also walk into
frames like star.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
He's like hey if I'm really He's like pushes her
way and then it's like like.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Like please, Like you want to be a hero.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Most people you push someone out of the way and
while you're you know, getting to the ground.
Speaker 7 (51:17):
Yeah, yeah, like scoots it.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
He wanted that battle room. He gets shot the bartender
because I'll try to help him gets stabbed.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
I was like a stabbing.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
But also all these amazing heroes at this bar, like,
let me be friends with these people because Tim and
I talk about us all the time. If someone was
threatening me, Tim, where would you be?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I'd be out of palette on the element. Well, I
wouldn't take I take the stairs, run out going. I
love people, but I gotta save my thumb.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
And would you push me out of the way and
take a gunshot? No, Alison, would you push someone out
of the way and take gunshot? For Joe?
Speaker 7 (51:52):
That is such a hard please.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Alison's like I do that.
Speaker 7 (51:57):
He's like.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
She for a small child?
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, maybe for children. The thing is is that
one of his bullets that miss her hits the glass
on pallette and what she takes that puck that her
date had given her at the beginning to give her son,
throws it against the like the glass to break it,
which finally we get the trailer scene. Sucks the guy
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out and he falls to his death, sucks her out
and she's hanging from a curtain. Now was it a
curtaino oh oh tablecloth? Yes? Now, okay, this is when
it went full die hard because like it's about to drop,
it's about to drop, and keep using the word drop.
And then her date grabs it and pulls her up
to safety.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Very romantic, so he was in addition to him pulling
her up, she was also climbing up, so they're both
like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I mean, if I'd fallen out the window, I don't
think I could have held myself by no God, like
the sheer panic, I would freeze. I don't think I
could do it. But like, all I know is this guy,
marry him because he took a gunshot, brought your kid
a gift, you know, grabbed you, saved your lifep through all.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
The inconsistencies of her being a little off all on
the first date.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
I mean, how do you get better than that?
Speaker 1 (53:22):
How you don't? You don't?
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Well, this is when we get to I've read a
lot about people having some issues with the ending after
this part, which I think is funny because I'm like,
if you can accept her hanging from a tablecloth, you're
fine with the ending. But she decides, she says, call
the police because the gunman at her house has been
ordered to kill her sister and kid, And she decides
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to jump in her car and I.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Drive around Ireland.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Think she's gonna get home before the guy who's already
in her house kills them.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
It doesn't really make sense, yes, but ikay with it?
Speaker 2 (53:58):
How about call a neighbor Like, yeah, I was actually
okay with him because at that point, to me, it
was like a full action thriller. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
I think she was running on pure adrenaline, like, you know,
I got to get to the house, so no matter what,
she was going to be the one taking on the
killer at the end.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
So the poor killer, first off like brutal battle with
her sister, ends up shooting his sister, and then he
takes the kid and tim can you do the kid's reactions?
Speaker 7 (54:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
But with the voice, because look, it's a little kid and.
Speaker 7 (54:32):
Some clarity, Alison, isn't Toby like a famous TikToker?
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, so Toby is named Jacob and he has a
very adorable TikTok presence by his from his mom where
he's just very cute and very personal and he's actually Irish.
Speaker 7 (54:44):
Yeah, so is he put it on an American accents?
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (54:47):
And I don't know if.
Speaker 7 (54:47):
Amazing action about the case.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
I yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
I wonder if maybe that's the best actor yet.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
He's a great TikToker, very cute and wise, young Irish boy.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Adorable. He he was adorable when he got grabbed by
the killer. It was a little funny because he is like,
h yeah, but adorable kid Like I feel like he's
his tiktoks are probably hilarious.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Make fun of a child him.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
That is so heartless what you just did.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
I don't want to be heartless. I love kids and.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Animal you hate kids, Candled Well babies said for like
a Violet gets back there has a big confrontation with
the killer, who you think could have already killed her sister,
and you know it gets to that final moment where
you think he has the best of her he takes
his mask off, he's revealed to be the power meter guy.
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Big reveal, and then, in a very cute moment, her son,
who you had this likero car, puts the gun he
had dropped in a in the remote control car and
drives to her. Which I will say this like as
kind of comedic as that was, it was and I've
never seen that done before. Have you guys like gun
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in a remote control car?
Speaker 1 (56:05):
No? Yeah, so earlier in the movie you sent her
like a little note that said I love you or something.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, something like that. It was a call back to it.
So she is able to get the gun and shoot
him dead multiple times. Now, I didn't know if the
sister was killed or not. Luckily, like everyone who was
shot in this movie, they were shot in no lethal
area or any type of organ which I will say
is funny for a professional assassin at point blank range
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to not be able to shoot her in an area
that kills her. But you know it's Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, I wasn't. Well, I've leaned over to Matt and
thank god you didn't lean over to Joe and Tom.
But I said, I said, is this Pg thirteen r R?
Because it was a right on the cusp of being
super violent but not not super violent. It was kind
of still like what's that show that every bumps not goosebumps,
but the it's like the television show that can Like
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I can't.
Speaker 7 (56:56):
I want to know what's the.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
TV show that? But they could show like a butt
like on ABC, I am showing my age every show,
so you're but regular network TV.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Now, I have no idea like a c S.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
I yes, yes, like.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
Definitely. Yeah. You don't see any blood when you the
people get shot, like you don't see a bullet hole
or something like. I feel like there's she gets to
say fuck one time. It was a good use of it.
Speaker 7 (57:23):
When did it come? I don't remember it?
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Oh wait, sorry, when did she say fuck? Oh? She
says you.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
She says yeah, she says it's the meanest guy, right, Alison.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
Mean the meanest guy. Jim would have would have fought
him with word you know.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
You're really mean. You areind of dating guy.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
There are some mean guys here and you are the
meanest out of my also.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Knows that I'm saying I do.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Alison would have been like, you are the meanest guy.
You like that, you are the weakest, like.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
Pull out my graph of who's the meaness you like?
Speaker 2 (57:56):
You like I have like a like right ye stuff,
So happy ending, which is good because like I didn't
want to see her sister get killed. I really liked
her sister.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
I don't know about that haircut. No one come for me.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
And I also didn't want her to die. And I
didn't want her date to die obviously they were healthy.
And I also was worried about the bartender. Was anybody
else worried about the bartender?
Speaker 7 (58:18):
We never got clarity. So she got stabbed, and after
making climbs out of the window, she like brand had
saved her life. She's like, you'll get help, don't worry,
like walks away from him, and then we see we
see the bartender's like hand come up into the shaw.
I didn't buy her too, and like doesn't console her.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
Id she said something to her like helps on the way.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
I think she said something quick. I saw that too.
She's like, amazing, it was just like it was just
her hand, like you can see.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
You do see the hand and frame. It's kind of
like not everyone's.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Dead, you know, you know who didn't get helped the
piano player because he's dead in the elevator.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, well he was. They had to make him a
little sleazy so we wouldn't feel that bad.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, yeah, deserve death because yeah. So we get like
a final scene which I actually laughed at this, although
it was so like like too much, too soon. Like
she's with her date in his hospital that you know room.
They're keeping in touch, and her sister also is okay,
and but she first gets a drop and it says
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like we're not I forget what did it say, Like
we're not finished yet or something, and it actually is
her sister pranking her, like kay.
Speaker 7 (59:23):
Later, but Violet brings burgers and milkshakes for her date
and they're sitting on the bed she gets this drop.
It's like this, oh fuck, like, oh no, what's gonna happen?
And then the sister walks into the room and she's
think it was me. They're all laughing and the sister's
like this is just like, oh, you did get me
a burger. And then Violet turns to her sister, who
we have this whole backstory about how she said this
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traumatic pass to being abused by her husband who shot himself.
Violet says to her sister, do you want me to
shoot you again?
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (59:50):
I was like what well? She said, oh no, she
said she didn't bring me a burger. I got shot too,
and she's like, do you want to get shot again?
I was like, whoa.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
When did you think that it was gonna be like
this is Have you guys seen two thousand and six
is Black Christmas? Where like the whole ending takes place
in a hospital And I was like, is this movie
gonna have like another shootout in a hospital? I was like,
is there are we not done?
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
When she got the extra drop at the end, and
I was like, Okay, it's obviously not the same guy
from the restaurant because he fell to his death. But
I was like, again, when there's a conspiracy like this,
there has to be multiple people involved. So I thought,
oh my god, there's another person involved. Maybe it's not over.
I didn't necessarily think it was gonna go black, Chris, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Gonna go I thought there was gonna be another like
like running through the hall means to the hospital. I
was like her, I was like, Oh, the movie's still going.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I got maybe sequel set up, you know what I mean? Like, Oh,
there's still somebody out there coming drop to you.
Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
You have the screen killer. You also have the meat
and killer the person.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I'm the me MEI killer drop me killer, me MEI Killer. Yeah,
and so we get our happy ending and uh and
so everything's wrapped up, and it looks like they're gonna
go out on a date again and everything hopefully will
be fine and there won't be other people involved in.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I don't think they're just gonna date. I think they're
gonna get married. I don't think you could just go
be like you know, I don't think it's gonna work out.
You do that kind of date for the first time
you're together.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
You're yeah, you are bonded exactly. So anyway, I wanted
to get everyone's final thoughts on Drop, just like overall,
what you thought of it, what you loved, what you
didn't love, and yeah, final thoughts. So let's start with
allison final thoughts on Trap.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
All right, Well, I liked it overall, and I almost
wish things go get crazy and chaotic once she sits
at the table with the villain and then we get
the huge shootout, seeing the window breaking, the actual big
drop of the trailer fame and I just kind of
wish it had gotten a little crazy a little sooner,
because I feel like it was like.
Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Really funny and exciting.
Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
But yeah, when it was really focused on the thriller
elements of it, I just had questions about I had
more plot questions as more distract did. But then when
it kind of went more silly or funny or chaotic,
I was much more on board because the performance is
for good and it was fun. So I'd say I
enjoyed it. I liked it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
I almost wish it had been a little bit bigger
and wilder.
Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Yeah, I was ultimately, I was ultimately disappointed by the movie,
just because, like I mentioned at the top, like we'd
seen this trailer so many times, and I'm like, if
I mean, I guess that maybe this is just a
problem for me going to so many movies and seeing
this trailer so many times. But it's like, I I
wanted to see something more than just what I saw
in the trailer, and the only extra storyline that I
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got is seeing this woman have like a like domestic
violence storyline, and I'm like, I don't need to see this,
And I just like totally just like felt so consistent
with the rest of the movie, I think we never
really leaned into like the comedy horror elements of it
and the suspense like you mentioned Hitchcock, and I think
Hitchcock is like such, He's like so good. Like his movies,
(01:02:55):
I love them so much because they use the camera
in such a way where like the camera's a character too,
like the movement and like the lighting and all that stuff.
So when I like lead into those elements the humor,
like the Hitchcock suspense, like I really liked it, but yeah,
it's like I want something more and I was really
just funny play.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Oh god, okay, Tim, what were your final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I like, yeah, the tones were all crazy, but as
someone who loves soaps, I love a weird tone, so
I was like I just embraced it, and I was like, Okay,
this is this is all working for me. I love
a girl lead just in Parrel. Is that my saying
the right peril Carol Parrel? Yeah, that was a reference
to a movie.
Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
When a girl leads uses purel like you know right now,
and then the greatest pronunciation of peril I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Every week I tried big words in every week that
I fall flat.
Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
That word has five letters in it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
No, I love the lead because I loved drawing White Lotus,
so I was happy to see like a good, you know,
solid actress taking on this huge movie and like, since
like the movie Smile Too, I felt like I saw
the trailer so many times. Yeah, I like, I'm not
saying it wrecked my experience. I still love the experience.
It did remind me of Red Eye, so it had
everything I wanted. Everything I wanted. So I hope there
(01:04:15):
is like a drop too. I don't know, but I
just looked at the box office. It's not doing great.
I thought it was gonna be number one because everyone
saw the trailer like we did. It's like number five's
number number of minecraft, right.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Oh I okay, So I definitely can see everything everyone
is saying, and like I kind of had my initial
reactions and then I sometimes I think about it more
and then I get my real opinion on a film,
if that makes sense. But uh so, okay, So well,
first one I'll say is that you're not gonna have
You're not gonna not be entertained by this movie. The
(01:04:51):
one thing I will say is that it is a
fun suspense thriller. Like, you're gonna have fun with it,
whether certain scenes make sense, whether the logic checks out
one hundred percent, you are going to have fun with it,
And a lot of the choices that were made it
actually reminded me. So there's an old Hitchcock film that
Jacob introduced me to called The Lady Vanishes and they're
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on like a train and it's like she she interacts
with an older woman and then suddenly she's missing, and
everyone tells this girl she's crazy. Though, this lady did
make get a tech and she's like, no, no, she
really did, and it's like a who done it? And
they're suspended. Then at that at the end, it's a
big suspense thing on the train, and it remind me
a little bit of that because it almost feels like
it's like a play because it's all in one setting
(01:05:34):
and you're trying to figure out who among all these
people is the suspect and stuff, and it has suspense. Now,
it remind me of that with comedy to it. Christopher
Landon is always going to put comedy into his films,
and I think that I definitely understand how the tone
wasn't balanced throughout. I just think Ultimately I was entertained.
(01:05:54):
Do I think it was like one of the best
suspense thrillers I've seen, not a chance. You know, there's
like I love Nick of Time with Johnny Depp. Oh yeah,
if you haven't seen it, he has to assassinate like
a political figure or they're gonna kill his daughter, similar
type of feeling. But I think done a little bit
better because they never leaned into the comedy. I think
maybe where this went, you know, went didn't wasn't successful.
(01:06:18):
Is yeah, when it had too much backstory or it
tried to put comedy in in the midst it didn't
quite work because it maybe should.
Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Have stopped or bored. I don't, yeah it should.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
If it just stuck with suspense thriller, maybe it would
have worked more. But like, yeah, I was always entertained.
The end was over the top, but as most action
thrillers are, so I wasn't as disappointed I think as
maybe you guys were. But I also think there were
areas that could have improved on. Overall, I think it
was pretty good, and like I said, like, it's not
gonna be something that you're gonna watch and be like god,
(01:06:50):
I'm so pissed I spent my time.
Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
You know, I think I would take I would love
to take my mom to see this movie. I like,
I feel like it's kind of like a mom movie.
Not in the sense that but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
As long as he's using purell, right, I was like, Mom,
you can't go.
Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Let you use perl.
Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yeah, Like, is this a movie you guys would recommend
people or like wait for streaming? Like, how would you
guys feel about that? Because I know you were kind of,
you know, mixed on it.
Speaker 7 (01:07:14):
But there is like the cinematography element of it is
really impressive to see it on the big screen, So
I like I would see it on the big screen
for that fact, Like, it definitely feels like it's a
movie that should play in theater. So it can be wrong.
I don't think this is like a directive streaming movie.
I think this is much more elevated than that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Yeah, I'd say you'll have a good time whether you
stream it or you go to the theater. So if
you're a theater person and you want the experience of
seeing it in the crowd, definitely go to theater.
Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
If not, it'll also be enjoyable in a few months.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, no, I agree, And I want to leave you
guys with this before we go.
Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
There's a show, a sitcom back in the eighties early
eighties called It's a Living where there's four waitresses and
they work in a place that looks like palette. That's
it everyone, that's everyone watch it's streaming everyone. Wow.
Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
Well this has been a long plug for that TV show.
Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
But that's the whole reason for this episode. So well,
look before we go. First off, you guys are great.
I want you to tell our listeners where people can
catch up, but get it with Queer Cinema cat where they.
Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
Thank you for specifying catch up. It's c A T
C h up, not catch up like the condiment.
Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Queer Cinema Catchup. We talk about condiments in queer films.
Now that is a need a niche.
Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
That's niche. Oh, I think we're gonna change your name.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Que Sinema catch Up to tell us where can listeners
find Joe and Allison's show Queer Cinema catch Up.
Speaker 7 (01:08:45):
You guys were everywhere. I mean, I think our main
thing is we have YouTube is the big one, and
then we also like are anywhere you can stream like podcasts.
We do video and audio and we're just like, like
I'll say to the top, like we do movies for
the most part. We also talk about TV shows and
then whatever Miss Lady is talking people want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Two, we have a show.
Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
Coming out about the documentary The Whole Story, which is
like this really wild story about this mysterious pole that
appeared at Mount Shasta, and we had.
Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
A whole hyah you men, whole like the complable story.
Speaker 7 (01:09:21):
Well in two ways, you know, there's a whole story.
There's a whole story. It has a double meeting.
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I am my tongue for things to say.
Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
It's like a huge like conspiracy. It's like so much
larger than just like this like a mysterious pool that
appeared to Mount Shasta. And we ended up interviewing the
the director, Elijah Sullivan, and just like got some like
backstory at how it was made and he spent like
twelve years making this documentary and it's just like a
really personal film, really well done. It's really engaging. So
please check it out on our YouTube.
Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
That's so cool. Can you guys talk to the director
of this documentary?
Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Wow, that is really and and the documentary is out
now for people to know we talk about it.
Speaker 7 (01:10:03):
It's such intimate detail that I might as well the experience.
Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Wow, well, and also like, do you guys, well, actually,
you know what we didn't even talk about not that
there really are many aspects. If you were looking at
Drop through a queer lens, would was there anything queer
about this? Oh? Yeah? So if you guys were discussing
this on your show, would you just just talk about that?
Speaker 7 (01:10:31):
But I think the performance of Megan's character Violet, where
you have, like I don't know, like the faces we
wear and how we present ourselves and when you're like
thrown into a situation where you have to act one
way when you really feel another way. We'd probably tie
it to that. I could see Alison doing a whole analysis.
Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
On exactly women in parrel is queer.
Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Women that should be the lie women in parrel. Yes,
that's so queer. I mean it's a queer way to
say peril. So I will say that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Just watch It's a living.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
But that's such a good I didn't even think about that.
It is like the faces we present to people, and
and also queer people. Many people have faced trauma through
their lives and how you get through that and what
you do to help others get through that. So you
could find something something queer other than the waiter. I
think from this movie absolutely well.
Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
First off, this is real quick. When she's looking through
his profile, there's a picture where he's just looking he's
wearing a wig, and she's like like, that's this cooky picture. Oh, yes,
you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
I remember seeing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
That's true, that was queer.
Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
That was fair. I was like, you know what she
should question whether or not he's straight or gang we
are reaching no.
Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
But the director is an out queer man, Christopher Lannon,
So like, you know, just like that, like it's it's good.
He's been really soaring in terms of popularity as a
horror filmmaker, which is really cool.
Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
You know, so pulp culturally. His dad is Michael Landon
from Little House on the Prairie, And it doesn't hurt
that he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Yes, that is true. I mean, and he has like
the most adorable family. It's like me as a gay man,
like when I look at like like family goals, Like
I look at him and his husband and his kids,
and they're all so like domesticated and adorable, and I
was like, if he can do it, I can do
it too.
Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Dry person will look up to yeah, look like you
don't have blond hair, You're no Christopher Land.
Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
He's such a ken. Like if you look at Christopher
Land and like he's so blonde, Malibu good looking, and
I'm just like, god damn it. So now he's successful
and good looking, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
You can only have one.
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
You can only have one anyway. That's why we're all
so good looking, right yeah, oh anyway, Okay, well, thank
you so much. Joe and Alison of Queer Cinema Ketchup,
thank you guys. Everyone listening please check them out on
their Instagram page or YouTube channel again catch up c
A T c HU not Ketchup, and we hope that
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we can do more collaborations in the future. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Absolutely, thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Okay, well, thanks you guys, we'll talk with you soon.
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