Ep 260: MANimal Instincts

Shark flicks have become a dime a dozen lately, thanks to stock footage and CGI. But a shark flick where the fish are less dangerous than the human antagonist? Now that’s unique! Tune in to hear us break down “Dangerous Animals” — from the standout performances of Jai Courtney and Hassie Harrison, to how this film epitomized the term “cat & mouse thriller,” and that one scene that had us squirming in our seats. 👍

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, Welcome to Happy Hard Time.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
My name is Tim Murdock and my name is Matt Emmert.
I'm always wondering what you're thinking at the beginner. I
want to know because so okay, so listeners and watchers,
you know, we always start and Tim starts with the
welcome the happy heart time, and half the time you're laughing.
So I want to know what is going through your head.
You couldn't handle it strictly sexual. I bet I was
gonna say it's filthy. Tim's thinking of Wait wait, let

(00:33):
me speak in Tim words. Wieners, no boobies. Definitely not
that's true. So Tim, how have you been great? You know?
I saw Harry Potter The Cursed Child the musical. It's
the musical.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's just a straight up play, okay, and why because
I love theater and it was really cheap seats. Whoever
got me the ticket They're like, we were like sixth
row back. It was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
So if you watched one of our previous episodes, Tim
went to see Annie and I joke that I was like,
there's no way I would go.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Can we reenact to this?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Ye? Yeah? I go?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, okay, So hey, Matt, do you want to go
see Annie?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Fuck? No? Tim also asked me about Harry Potter. Let's
reenact that.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Do you want to go see Harry Potter?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Not a chance?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
The funny thing is is I'm getting this bad rap
like I don't like theater. I love theater.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Here's the thing I don't produce. I don't like Harry Potter.
I know that's controversial statement, but I do like plays.
And I thought this would be fun, and I did
get all emotional, and you know, I didn't know the
Chris Child was basically.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Like a boy love story.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean, now it's sounding more appealing. The thing is,
I love theater. I usually go when I visit my
family in New York, we go to a play or
a musical. I've seen a ton, but I'm not into Annie.
And I was never a Harry Potter person. Now, if
you told me, hey, it's Harry Potter but gay, maybe
I would.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Have told you it's Harry Potter and Annie.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Harry fine, Harry Annie ew so creepy? What it was
Annie Potter and she was grown up and she married Harry.
She was like, I can fit the griffindor have on
because of my curly hair, and she's like, the sun
will come out tufflepuff on in hufflepuff Oh my god. Okay, Anyway,
there's a few like taking care of business. Things I

(02:12):
want to do that we haven't done in a while.
I want to do some plugs. Plugs Kim, because if
you're watching this and a couple things and don't know
that we have a Patreon, I am gonna do a
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want to hear those guys talk about movies from the past.
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(02:33):
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Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yes, and we also we had someone on Patreon that
came from a different country, which my little tiny brain
was exploding during it.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So this month our theme is demented Doctors, and we
gave the opportunity for patron to join us in a
bonus episode. And one of our patrons, Charlotte pick the
movie The Dentist and she lives in Scotland. And the
best is this is episode's coming out this month. Tim
is talking to her like she's from another plan. I
really do you guys have movie theaters there?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I literally was like the dumb American. I was such
a dumb dumb So if you listen to it, you
can hear me just be like so fascinated that someone
doesn't live in the USA.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And now that's a percolone to join our patren But
it was funny because I finally had to say Tim, like,
she's just in the United States, She's not on Mars.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
She might as well have been, because like, I've never
been to Mars or the UK.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
They're just as close to each other. Yeah, So that's
the kind of stuff we do on Patreon. The other
thing that if you are part of our if you've
subscribed to our YouTube channel, you've noticed that we have
been doing weekly news commentary videos every Wednesday, we release
a video where we comment on, like whatever's going on
in horror news, we get the scoop. Now, we're actually
not like scoopers. Everything's been reported on. We're just giving ourself.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I've got my boots on the ground and I'm hunting
the he has the horror of Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow, I say that five times. I hunting the horror
of Hollywood. I can't do it, so we do. Every Wednesday,
we've been doing news commentaries, and every Friday we've been
doing ranking videos where either Tim or myself will rank
anything from the films within a popular franchise, final Girls,
our favorite actors from Tim's favorite.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So yeah, and speaking of that, I do want to
say I just put we put.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Out Bolden and Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I totally forgot about actor Peter Barton from Frida thirteenth,
Part four, the final chapter. So I can't believe you
didn't make my ranking because Fride thirteenth is my favorite
and he would. His death is so good because he
gets his face crushed in the shower naked.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
So I know nothing about bold and the Beautiful except
for what Tim has told me. And Peter Barton I
am shot. So we interviewed him on the podcast. It
was one of our favorite interviews because he's so like
honest and revealing. But now that he didn't make your
building a beautiful list him.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Know, I dropped the ball.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Dropped the ball. But there have been so many people
on soaps that are in horror. But that's just one.
I ranked like top ten characters who should have survived
their horror movies. But these videos come out every Friday,
So if you're listening to this, please go to our YouTube.
It's just YouTube dot com slash Happy Hard Time and
subscribe you can see those weekly videos. So we just
got a lot of content going out there.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
And it's really really fun for us, so hopefully it's
fun for you.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, I hope so, oh my god. But it's also
Tim and I record together very often. I know, I'm
sick of your face. I just get in the beautiful phase.
You know what I've met you. We've gotten a few
comments from people on like all the different horror shirts
we wear and number one, thank you for noticing number two.
I'm running out of different shito.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
So if anyone wants to give me some, I'm like
a medium slash small and a good day if I
don't have a burger.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm a large on every day and I I'm running
out of shirt. So now I'm like gonna have to
redo them because with all the content we're doing, I
can't wear a different shirt all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
But I'm so far I've done it.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
That shirt looks like you had a fate and fifty years.
This is I really dug this out of the gutter.
It okay, it smells good like downy fresh. Shout out
for my friend Blake Borkovitz, who got me this shirt
very recently. It's Pinhead. And now if you're thinking, Matt,
you've never talked about how much you like the hell

(06:31):
Raiser movies, You're right, Yes.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
We have Hellraiser three starring Polo Marshall.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I appreciate the hell Raiser movies, they're not my favorite,
but I had zero pin Head shirts, so I was
so excited about this one because he is iconic and
I don't have any other shirts.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Maybe you could shrink it and give it to me.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's already shrunk. It's large, but it feels like a medium.
So if you're wondering why, like I'm busting out, that's
why you're busting out guys.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Okay, women have boobs, men have pecks.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Anything else she'd like to discuss, depending on the anatomy,
A men of penises, women a vagina. This is news, Tim, Tim.
We're gonna teach Tim basic anatomy today on the podcast anyways,
So that is really every What else are we doing
on our YouTube channel? And I think that right?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I mean I get mine mixed with only fans? I
get it mixed up.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, what are you releasing on only fans?
It's just like me cooking and making cookies. Okay, I
already know that's a lie because you don't cook. Like
the jake is up when Tim says he's cooking, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't cook it all pop tart cereal?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Have you ever liked for Thanksgiving? Just like, try a
dish or something.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I mean, I'll try a dish, but making a dish.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I meant try to make the dish. Okay, So let's
get let's get into our movie now. The movie we
are talking about today is part sharp flick, sharp shot
you did. I was like, that is definitely not a
shark flick. It is a shark flick, part survival horror.

(08:02):
It's called dangerous animals. Now, tim, are you a dangerous animal?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think, well, from this movie, I learned that man
is really the dangerous animal and the shark's kind of
an afterthought.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And that's so funny. You said that you've jumped ahead
to like all right, yeah, no, no, no, but thank you.
It really did feel like this movie was saying the
true dangerous animal here is man going nuts because the
sharks are minding their own business.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
What's the like that question that's being asked to women,
like would you rather be in the woods with a
bear or a man? And like a lot of people
say like, oh sorry, A lot of women say like,
I'd rather be in the woods with a man.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Wait, is that like a thing? It's like a thang,
it's I mean, because they probably know exactly what they
need to do to get away from a bear. Men
are unpredictable, crazy. Yeah, I know, I would pay. That's
such a loaded question, like because is the bear? There's
so many other things, but in.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
The mood, it's not called dangerous bears, it's called dangerous animals.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
But again, there has to be a reason the idol
is dangerous animals aka not dangerous fish, because it's encapsulating
man in this because man is the dangerous animal. And
we'll get to all that. But like there's got to
be a reason they didn't call it like scary sharp.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, the guy's Australian, right, Uh, the director, I mean
the lead guy in the film. It takes place in Australia.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right, Yes, So the main star of this movie is
Ji Courtney. He is an Australian born actor and he
was actually in a lot of movies we didn't see,
like Terminator Genesis.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I actually did see that.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh oh, I didn't see that. A Good Day to
Die Hard? Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I guess I did.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
He played Jesus, but these are movies that won and done. Okay,
he played Bruce Willis's son. I told you. He was
on the Spartacus season like a long time ago, and
he was always like almost naked. He is a beefcake,
if I could ever use that word more appropriately. Jy
Courtney is a good looking I can't believe I'm gonna

(09:57):
say this, but like as as the gays say, like
he's a daddy.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, my.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Impression of j Courtney guy or did I Oh my god,
what if it is Jay it's spelled j a I
that sounds like ji anyway. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
So my impression of him, like throughout the whole entire movie,
I went back and forth like do I think he's attractive?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Do I not think he's attractive? Like right now? I
mean like there was someone like ooh, and then I
was like, oh, it was scary attractive. It's almost like
when you have those thoughts of like you see like
someone like the bad Boy. And of course he's a
homicidal maniac, not homosexual.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
He's a homosexual maniac.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But there is a scene, and this is in the
trailer where he is dancing in his underwear in a
robe and you know he's pretty good looking.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, you know, he really owned that scene. I was like, oh,
he's he's you know, he's not he doesn't look embarrassed
like he's owning it. And you kind of have to
in this role because he was like straightforward crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
This has gotta be again, I haven't seen his body
of work, his body, yo, Michael, I've seen his body,
but I have not seen his body work. But this
has gotta be a great role for him because this
is his movie. Well it's his movie and our main
lead girl. She is played by Hasse Harrison. She plays

(11:16):
in the movie Zephyr. She is an American actress, but
they take the movie takes place in Australia because or
it's actually on the Gold Coast, which is right around
that area. But basically, so we'll kind of get into
this because there's a good complex and it's not complex
at all. There's an opening scene where there's like two
tourists that are going to it's called Tucker's Experiences, and

(11:38):
that's Jy Courtney is Tucker, and it's swimming with sharks
and he takes them on the ocean. And before he
takes them, like on the ocean.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Just like he goes because they decide they're skipping Sea
World and they're like, he goes, so no one knows
you're here.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's so funny. He's like, they overslept, so they missed
the Sea World thing and they're like the biggest mistake
of their lives. And he's like, yeah, no one knows her.
So he takes him out the middle of ware and
the girl, God bless her, she's so nervous to swim
with sharks. And you know, as viewers well as viewers
were thinking that's not what you need to be nervous
about girls with man crazy. So he first puts them

(12:15):
in like a cage with sharks, and it's it's a
good suspense building scene because you think something's gonna happen there,
but no, everything's good. They do it. She calms down
and enjoys it.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
They get out of the water, and the guy this movie.
All three guys that are in the film, well, I
guess there's a fourth guy in it as well. They're
all really really good looking.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I think everyone in this film, girls, guy, look at
what they cast beautiful human beings in this movie. But
they get out of they're all psyched. We did our
shark experience. And then Jie Courtney out of nowhere, stabs
the guy twice in the throat and pushes him in
the water. And what does he say to the girl.
He's like like, now it's time.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now it's time to scream something like that.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, and then it goes to credit. So I thought
that was an effective open it well.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
And it was a weird opening because it wasn't like
a like haunting spooky movie. Was like it almost looked
like Fast Times at Ridgemont High or like balley girl.
It was like people surfing, it was like dangerous Animals,
was like this iss in the movie and this is
he's in the movie. I was like, oh, that's an
interesting angle.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I did get that after this suspenseful opening when the
credits come on, like music's going and then all the
credits are coming up like it's like clueless.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, it's like in the font of the the names.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Looked like clueless. It really did. It gave me a
cluelest feel. The only thing I can think is that
maybe they were like, Okay, now let's like lighten the
mood for a bit, because we do get into a
stretch where there is zero suspense because they are trying
to build up the character of Zephyr, that is our
lead girl.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't love the name, but I love the girl.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
The girl is I just got to say, and I'm
gonna also wait till the end to say this because
I thought her performance was so great. I just loved her,
Like I feel like she's gonna make if one of
my like top ten final girl lists because she was
just her performance and the character. I just loved her.
She was so fucking tough.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I agree, like there was nothing about her.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I didn't like.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, she he's absolutely gorgeous. I mean, my eyes were
on her the whole time, and you told me she's
thirty six. I thought she was twenty.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
She's this blonde. She plays this blonde surfer who has
like left her family. We don't get a ton of
backstory on her right life.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's basically no nonsense, like she doesn't want to put
herself out there for love in like no way. A
lot of this movie or movie was packed, so the
reactions for her in a relationship were sometimes bigger than
the shark scenes.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well my god, Okay, So what I will say about
this movie. As much as I really enjoyed it, there
was a little bit of cheesy dialogue when they were
trying to build the characters. There were some laughable moments
where the audience, like you could audibly hear people laughing,
and not because it was funny. They were laughing at
the dialogue because what happened is Zephyr meets this guy
named Moses. And by the way, the guy who plays Moses,

(14:48):
his name is Josh Houston. Now I looked him up
because he's so gorgeous. It was distracting and what I
mean is that his body looked like a model, and
then I found a he is a model, Like, tell
me I'm wrong, No.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, he was absolutely gorgeous. Well, the thing is like,
it's been a while since I've seen a movie where
the two leads are so ridiculous, ridiculously good looking.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
She's got a tan, he's got a tan. I wanted
a tan. They're both like they're so sexy, both in
them so and he's just so good looking. And at
first when she meets him, he's dressed almost like a Mormon,
and she thinks he's a missionary and he's like, no,
I'm a real estate agent. And first she doesn't like him,
but she gives him a ride to your car. Then
of course they flirt and they're talking about songs, and
then they're fucking pretty much.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, there's also just this weird thing where like she's
got this humongous slushy and like she puts a pint
of like ice cream minute and he's like, I'll turn
you in and just.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Like what, first off, didn't you think I thought this
is funny? She paid for a slushy which let's say
three four dollars so she could steal a pint of
ice cream, which is what six seven dollars, Like, what's
the difference? Maybe she only had seven dollars exactly. I
just love that she, of all things, she stole a pine.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Of It was a cute, It was a meet cute,
and it was a clever idea putting the ice cream
inside this slushy. All of that's fun and it builds
their relationship. That's so ridiculously cute.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
They have this kind of it's it's not a graphic
sex scene, but they are rolling around a lot. I
see anything. They are rolling around and and you know,
thrusting a bunch, but you don't actually see anything.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
That after math, the aftermath, the after math doing it
of sex. Yes, the aftermath of sex where they're like
she's sitting on the side and he's sitting on this side.
And just like the beautifulness of the scene of just
them in their tan bodies.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Smoking, they were smoking.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And they were just kind of on a they were
just kind of in a white sheet against their like
ridiculously tan skin.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I was like, this looks like a beautiful page. That's
what I was thinking. It could have been like a photograph,
like they're both skinned. They're only covered by the cover
and they're like smoking a joint and they're relaxing and
they're both so good looking. But anyway, he like he's
every girl or guy's dream because he tries to make
her breakfast and he's already liking love. Oh and they like.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Do all this in her van because she doesn't want
to go into his big, beautiful house.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, but she lives in her van. But she ends
up taking off in the morning without saying goodbye because
she wants to go and catch some waves, because that's
what you do, Tim, right right? Damn have you ever
left in the middle of the night to catch some waves.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I can't think of a morning where I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
In Ohio.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, because I have so many walls up and I'm
such a mysterious character.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
You're such a mysterious girl. I am, so I was like,
you know, I gotta go. It's Tim. When he was
in Ohio, he had to dip out to go.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
And I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
In the freezing Gold Lake area, and can you imagine
you sants an excuse? I got to catch a wave
where I met canoeing canoeing on the river, No on
the lake anyway. By the way, speaking of hookups and
leaving the middle night, I don't think I've ever left
before someone woke up. Have you ever done that? I mean,
it's been a while since that stage, that part of
my those chapters are a little over, but I do

(17:59):
remember just kind of like rushing out. I would never
just leave. But the thing is is that he texts her, and.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
This is the scene that got the biggest laugh from
the r audience.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
He says, like, was I really that bad? With like
an eggplant emoji? And she said, like, what does she like?
The early bird gets the barrel? It's a surfing term.
So are we gonna? Like?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
He's like, can we can we meet again? She goes,
it's a free it's a free Well, she said like,
I'd like that, and then takes it away and says
like it's a free beach or something like.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
She it's so funny because the audience is watching you.
You know that she likes him, but she's so guarded.
She stops herself from texting I'd like that, and she
deletes it and then types in, well, it's a free ocean.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I actually thought that was more suspenseful than the shark scene.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I just everybody was kind of laughing, but kind of cringing,
but kind of like enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I think that's relatable because there's always someone in a
relationship that has got their walls up, I think, and
I think I related to that because I'm like tan.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
And good looking. Of course of course a model. Yeah,
I got a surfer too. I think why the audience
may have been reacting the way they did was because
we just got this opening scene where like someone got
killed and someone screaming, and then we're in like a
romantic comedy. So it was a little bit of a
tone change. Not bad. They had to develop it. There
was just a guy throwing people to sharks the whole time. Yeah, well,

(19:14):
we wouldn't have cared about it. Who's this. Well, right
in the middle of texting, a plastic bag gets put
over Zephyr's head. She gets kidnapped by Tucker Jy Courtney,
and like he brings her to his boat and when
she wakes up, she is chained to a bed with
one hand with like a handcuff, and next to her

(19:36):
is the girl from the opening scene who's been chained
there for like what a day? And this is this
is probably the grossest part of the movie for me.
Oh oh, I know what you're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So next between the two girls the bucket and on
the bucket is like a roll of toilet paper and
she's like, sorry about the smell, and I was like,
I'm sorry, I had to see that.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I know. You know what. The reason I don't mind
something like that because number one question, well, everyone is
wondering in movies why don't people go to the bathroom
when you are held captive in a room? The first
question is, well, how do you go to the bathroom?
So they addressed it right away with a bucket and
you didn't have to see in the bucket though, I know.
I mean like part of me is like just keep

(20:16):
it a mystery.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
It's like The Brady Bunch, you know, like we don't
know where the bathroom is in the house, Like could
they did they ever show a toilet on the Brady Bunch?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Because I watched every Buridy Brunch. Sorry, let me go
through my mental Uh please did you find it? Oh?
One scene Martha, Martha, who's Martha? I don't know where
your brain is, Marsha Marsha's in the bathroom and her
dad walks in and he's like sorry, no.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Right, no, no, But like I there was a part
of me that's like, oh, I don't want to know this.
But at the same time, you have to address the
elephant in the room.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and the elephant of the room is so Jy
Courtney comes in there and first off, right away the
girl from the opening scene, she's just kind of scared
and calm and doing nothing. And right away Zephyr is fighting.
She's trying to break out of the handcuff, she's trying
to figure out a way to pick the locked everything.
But unfortunately Jy Courtney he in the semblance of giving

(21:11):
them water, he drugs them. And when Zephyr wakes up,
she's on the deck of the boat in like a
chair and the other girl is attached to a harness
and Ji Courtney is videotaping. Now Tim caught a prop
because he is not using an iPhone. Nope, he's not
using a digital camera. He's using like a VHS camera.

(21:34):
And this would you say this is the most intense No,
this isn't the most intense scene, but this is the
most disturbing scene. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I mean I thought the most disturbing scene was the
texting scene.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
That's disturbing. Okay, let me just paint this out for you.
She's on a harness. He has a control where he
lifts her up and he lifts her above the water,
and he's put a bunch of blood in chums sty.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I yes, it's chum, which I did.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
That just makes it weird, just discussed because it sounds
like so there's sharks swimming around and he slowly is
pushing her down into the water. The girls are screaming.
It is hard to watch. And then he just lets
her there like halfway above, waist deep in the water,
and the sharks just start taking her and like pulling
her back and forth. Reminded me of Original Job.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
You know what you're actually you're absolutely right, Matt. It
is the most intense scene in the movie.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
It was disturbing to watch because, first off, when you're
watching people suffering and screaming, that's hard as any human
being to watch. They're pleading with him, please please please.
He doesn't carries just like, get my movie, get my movie,
and she gets like, you don't see all the gore,
but she gets ripped in half. Well, the cool part.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Is and I don't know if he stole this from Jaws.
I mean I read somewhere that the director watched like
a lot of shark films, and you know this movie.
Yes it's a shark film, but I mean, I'm gonna
stop the podcast and say.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
This, stop it.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I don't think the sharks looked particularly real, Like, I
don't think at any point I was like, oh, that's
a real footage, did you?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
So I don't mind. It's tough because if we're even
tap talking about the idea of is this a shark movie?
To be honest, the sharks were all secondary for me, Like, really,
this is about this serial killer versus this girl, and
he's using the sharks as his method of killing them
and he gets off on like feeding them to them.
So I guess it would be a shark movie. But

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it's not like Jaws, where it's only about the shark.
Like it had more layers too, like.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
In the tradition of the movie calling being called dangerous animals.
I think it's he is a cat and she is
a mouse. It's a cat and mouse.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
It is one hundred percent of Cat and Mouse movie
because you'll see after they got through this scene. It
really is him versus her and just back and forth
and back and forth and back and forth. But it
is tough. What I really thought was unique about this
movie is that when there are shark movies, they usually
one hundred percent are focused on the sharks. This one
was like a shark movie that again the sharks were

(23:49):
kind of secondary. So that was kind of cool for
me because it's fine.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
But well, the posters, by the way, I love all
the posters for this movie. I love the marketing.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I think it's great. Where was I going with that? Oh,
I don't know, but I forgot to answer that. God
only knows. No, no, But I forgot to answer your
question when we did get to footage underwater of just
seeing the sharks. Yes, it looked a little bit like
stock video.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Now, how did you even think it looked like stock video?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Oh? Like you thought it was cgi? I mean, not
that it was like some of it probably right, Like
we've seen a.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Lot of shark movies, like the one with Alicia Silverstone
that was horrible, and then Katrina, Katrina bowed in from
the moulden the beautiful called Great White that was rough.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And Varana three. Oh no, no, but that's not shark right.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
But I mean it's still underwater. But one thing this
movie really did well is when the girl was getting
bitten and stuff like that, it was reminiscent of Jaws
the original.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I've said she when like Chrissy when she's getting pulled.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
But when I don't know if you remember this one child,
and if you already mentioned it, I don't know where
my brain was, but they showed her like leg just
kind of drifted off into the water. I thought, I
was like, that is a powerful shot.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
It is. And again remember when you have so okay
in Jaws, the original Jaws. Because they were keeping it PG,
we only see a little bit of Chrissy suffering. Of
course we do hear her screaming when you're getting bit,
but in this movie, what makes it so tough to
watch is like they are screaming, pleading, and it's slowly
being you know, like lowered down into the water, so
you know what's gonna happen to her, And because it's slow,

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it makes it even worse to watch. But when she
does get like pulled apart, you know she's suffering being bitten,
and then like Tim said, not only do you see
her like leg like that later in the movie, you
see just her head and neck piece just that like
floating in the world.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
No, it's a very effective I mean, granted, it's so fake.
It's not like I don't want to say it's so fake.
Obviously it's not even a practical effect. It is computer generated,
but it's it's to the point where you're like, that's
pretty effective. But it's like this part's all cut up
and then like parts of her face are all like chomped.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
On, totally messed up. So anyway, Zephyr knows, like and
he says, basically, you're gonna be tomorrow night show. So
she knows she needs to get the fuck out and
first again, she's such a fighter that and this movie
should be called Escape Attempts because how many like escape
attempts did she made. It's really like all of them.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
You would think that like it would be no problem,
like she escaped, she escaped, but like somehow he always
gets her, and it's like that is the part of
this film that really is just.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Like, oh, but that was the beauty of it for me,
is that there are so many attempts that she makes
and she's always so close to getting out and then
he gets her, or she's so close to getting someone's
attention and then he gets her, and it takes you
on this like emotional roller coaster. And I guess for me,
there haven't been a lot of movies lately where I'm
just like, please let her get out, please, Like you're

(26:36):
just like it were't can't you feel that way? Oh
my god, get to that beach.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
There was a part of me that I did check
my watch, but not because I didn't like the movie.
It was just because I was like, I knew that
she was gonna live. I knew that that guy was
gonna get eaten by shark. I mean, I knew all
these steps were coming, but like, just to sit in
the just to sit in the uncomfortability of the films.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Speaking of uncomfortability, can I just take one quick moment
to talk about the girl who was sitting too down
from me. So again, don't know what this girl's story is,
but when she walked into the movie theater where with
a group of people, she had like a complete stoneface,
no reaction, and she sat down and she was sitting
very upright with her expression was like this. Yeah, I

(27:21):
mean she was like rocking a little and some trailers
came on and some of them were like comedy and
everyone's laughing, and I turned and she's just you know,
and I thought either she was highly medicated or she
was a serial killer, right, either one, which is fine.
They want to see shark movies too. What did you
think did? Were you a little nervous? I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I wasn't because I totally was.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I maybe it was just I know not everyone's like us,
we're like animated crazy cars.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like I just wanted a human reaction from her. She
was gonna give us. And that's why it's like again,
it's like I wasn't like it sounds creepy, like I'm
watchra like like we all noticed her, everyone in our group,
because because she just sat down right next to us
and was just like I'm just gonna do this. No, no,
it was it was spooky, it was funny. I wasn't.

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I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's afraid because I know she was.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
She's not a shark. She's not a shark. She's not
a dangerous animal. But I can't remember. The dangerous animal
is us that's so true, man. Okay, So jumping back
in this, so Zephyr knows she needs to get the
fuck out of there. Like that night, she's able to
get like a piece of something that ends up being
like a blade.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Was like, she's just the plastic part of the bucket.
She takes it off, cracks it in half, and she
stabs him right here.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, she stabs him, and she's able to get out
of her handcuffs and she's like running this and throws it.
She throws the camera off, but not before he gets
a syringe of the drug inter and she jumps in
the water to swim away and then just starts fading blow.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
He got a hook and he pulled her back up.
But then on land he goes to like, h what's
that called?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Like a he Well, this is the funny thing, because
she has ruined his camera and by all means he's
not gonna an iPhone. He has to go to like
a swamp meet or something that is like a thrift
store to get a new camera. Now, all the time
this is going on, we go back to the really
cute guy. She had the one night stand with Moses,
and he's been trying to get in contact with her,
and she's missing and he even sees her van gets

(29:15):
towed and he's like, something's not right. So he hacks
into like beach footage.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, and he's like he's like, huh okay, there goes
her van.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
There goes Tucker's Experiences car right after hmm. So he
goes to visit like, uh, the Tucker's Experience and he
ends up going on the Bocus Tucker. Jay Corney's gone
getting his new camera. He like listens down to the ground.
He's like, oh, there's a struggle. He hears a girl screaming. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I was like, I was so impressed. And then like
he goes down to the thing, he opens the door.
There she is and you're like, oh my god, there's
this You're saved. So she's so thankful to see him.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
He's great. Of course Tucker's coming back right then, and
Moses and Tucker get in this huge fight and like it.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Is brutal, it is and't I was like, well, first off,
one thing that they don't really address ever, is like
doesn't he put like a hook in his back?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I know he gets knocked out, and there's a lot
of I know that he got punched and stuff. The hook.
I thought I saw two hooks go into the guy's back. Oh,
I don't remember, but yeah, I know exactly. But it
is so brutal. But Moses gets the upper hand and
he's like strangling uh Tucker with like it's like a
it's like he puts a bar here.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, and like I actually thought I knew the movie
would it was.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Too early for the movie to be dead. But right
when you think he's gonna strangle the killer, the neighbor,
this idiot guy comes in, thinking, oh my god, why
is this guy attacking poor Tucker knocks Moses off of him,
but then he hears the girl screaming, realizes Tucker is
actually a villain. And then Tucker takes a hook, hooks
it into his head.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
And it didn't remind you of the dut scene from
Halloween five.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Oh with the yes with his car. Yes, but it's
but it's like a garden tool. It's like you're a ho. Oh,
you're a ho. It's like, oh my god, I'm going crazy.
It's a garden tool and it ain't no how so
Buddy gets it in his head like I was having, Well,
that kind is an idiot. But then he takes Moses

(31:12):
captive and so you're like, fuck, now they are both handcuffed.
The two little lovers are both handcuffed, And so we
get to the next night and guess who's gonna be
the star of this show?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Moses, which you know, it's really interesting the way that
he puts her in a seat handcuff to watch, like
she's got a really good seat.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
She's got front row tickets to this show. So he's
starting to be lifted up in the harness and do
the camera town. Okay, he's got his camera. He's gonna
do his next video. Okay, Tim's gonna be Tucker. Oh
I'm Moses. Okay, I'm gonna I'm uh So Zephyr's like saying,
stay calm, stay calm, the sharks won't affect you. So
they lower him into water and he stays calm, and
guess what, the sharks swim away. So Tucker is pissed,

(31:51):
so he brings him back, stabs him twice to get
him bleeding, and then starts to put him back in
the water.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I was pissed because I was like, okay, sharks, she
probably can't ser vibe. But also two stabbings's two stabs.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
And also that means he's suffering while he's gonna suffer more.
But before he can lower him into the water again,
he sees a helicopter come by, so he like takes
a bad shit. Oh shit, how did I explain this?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I can't do my shark show. Oh canceled kind of
like that. It was right in the middle of the day. Yeah, yeah,
just because.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well, and he had to like end that. So he
puts them both in captivity. Now poor Moses is like
bleeding to that. Yeah, and you know, it's so okay.
He's in a bathing sit. Can we talk about one
funny thing. When Moses goes to capture her, he has
full clothes on. When he gets knocked out and taken
into captivity, Tucker has removed his shirt and put him

(32:40):
in a bathing suit. And I was like, is this
just a light wait? Was he That's right? He was
in jeans and a T shirt. Everyone in our audience
snickered because it was so obvious this guy's so attractive
and he has a chiseled body that they're like, hmm,
let's get him shirt, let's go get you know.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
It made me like stop eating sarapatch kids for like one.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Second, except you had already had them two containers.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I really don't, And ye know.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I was like, if my body is gonna look like
that by summer. Yeah. The thing is he's like in
his twenties, and forty eight year olds can't get it,
not as easily as twenties eight year olds. But it
was really funny because the audience was like, we know
what you're doing, filmmaker, like you're putting him in a
Oh of course I didn't mind, but I also knew
like it was like would a killer stop to remove

(33:21):
his shirt. The leads were so attractive. I already said
that like five times prior.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
To tell me more about how tractive. Are so attractive
that I don't I would just watch them like have lunch.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I mean, they definitely could both be models. They both
could be so smalls, and also they made a really
cute couple. I was rooting for them, as Tyra Banks,
we were all rooting for you. Tim Okay, so okay,
we get to Zephyr is going to make another escape attempt.
But this one was probably one of the most exciting,

(33:51):
and I was gonna say most uncomfortable scenes to watch
other than the girl being lowered to her death and
getting ripped apart by sharks. So this is how committed
Zephyr is. You know, when your hand is handcuffed to something. Now,
the reason why you can't get the handcuff off handcuff
your thumb, if your thumb, but if you break your
thumb you can kind of slide it off. So she

(34:13):
starts by breaking her own thumb, which was tough to
watch enough. Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Like breaking of the thumb and then being fed to
sharks are two different levels of the squirm exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
But if you think it stops there, oh no, no, no,
no it doesn't because her thumb, even though it's broken
and hurting and dark blue and everything, it's still won't
let the handcuff come off. So she proceeds to bite
off her entire thumb. I'm talking rip it off and
spit it out.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
She becomes a shark to herself, I.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Think, And this is a question I have for you, Tim,
if you were in a life or death situation, do
you think you could literally bite your own thumb off?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think I could, I really, I mean, I'm not
just saying that for like shock, I really I think
like if my the guy that I loved, was bleeding
out and like there's a killer upstairs and sharks are
waiting for me, I would be like, Okay, this is
my only option.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Here's my honest thing. And I hope I never have
to be in that situation. I think I could if
I had to break my thumb, like crack it, but
to tear it off with my teeth as blood is
going out, I don't know. I think I would pass
out a from the pain and be from the just
trauma of it.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
But I remember when we thought there was something going
on in a movie theater like fight or flight.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yes, and I fight so, but running is easier than
ripping you.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
At the same time, I think I I you could
do it, yeah, because I definitely have that nervous energy
like okay, like if this is my only option, I'm
gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Do you know why I could see that for you?
Because you are I've we've talked about this before. You
can smash a bug with your bare hand. I can't
do that. That takes some guts, no pun intended. No,
I will kill it.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
If there's a roach I'll just go like this.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I like bare hands people I can't and then I
go like this and then he lets o, I'm go
seeing myself, so I'm gonna vomit. But let me just
tell you the way the theater was squirming. This movie
is another one of those movies you got to see
with the theater because this scene I was looking at
all the friends we were with and everyone was like
covering their eyes, like like it was so tough to

(36:19):
watch because she's ripping into her thumb and finally gets
it off. So she gets the handcuff off, her hand
is bleeding, she has to cover it.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
It's kind of interesting because then when the bad guy
comes in and like there's blood all over her sheet
and he's like, oh, are you underneath here? He pulls
it off and there's her thumb.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yes, just her thumb. But she's waiting behind the door
to knock him and try to get out. Now. I
don't remember if this was the escape attempt. There were
so many when she almost made.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
It to shore right, well, like there's a lot of
Like the scene that really disturbed me the most is
like she locks him in a room and then she
starts a fire in there and then like he gets
out and then she's climbing up this thing and then
he pulls her down and then like she hits her
head on.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
This like there don't know what that is, brutal fighting,
But the thing is she does finally get into the water.
I don't remember it was this time or another time,
but she's swimming to shore like a party island. He
goes into like a like a like one of those
like portable tugboat type things that has a motor on
it and is following her. And she makes it to

(37:17):
shore and she's right about to get to this bar
where people are, and right before she gets there, he
tackles her and like and I thought he was smothering her.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
So I thought he was like gonna crack her neck.
But I was like, he can't crack her neck because
then the movie be over her.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I was worried that because he had his hand over
her nose and mouth. I was like, oh my god,
are you suffocating her? But like again, as we all know,
watching any chase scene, when the person gets so close
to safety just to get captured, it is heartbreaking. Yeah,
that was.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
And then he just threw her back on the boat
to go on the bigger boat.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
All that that she did just to get thrown back
on the boat get back. So she also though was
nice enough. She wrapped up Moses' injuries so the least
the bleeding would stop. Anyway, we get to kind of
the final thing. He finally is like, Okay, fuck this girl.
Now she's gonna be fed to the sharks. Like he's
been waiting waiting. She was.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
She was a nice guy because then he took the
time to put the hot guy in this spot.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
He got a front rat. Yeah. Yeah, because she's like,
now you get to watch her. So she's on the harness,
she's about to be lowered down into the sharks, and.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
But she she knows something that no one else knows
is that if you don't move it.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
All, yeah, if you, if you're calm, the sharks will
go away. But she also is so tough that she
starts like climbing up the hard Remember she's missing a
thumb to climb missing a thumb, so she's literally climbing
with one and a half hands, pulling herself up with
more upper body strength than I would ever.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
She I don't think she's eaten anything in like three days.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Definitely not, probably not use the facilities because it was
just a bucket. She's climbing up this hook, she is
able to unlatch herself, falls into the water, and but
you're thinking, well, shit, now she's gonna be eaten by Well.
The cool thing was like, this is the biggest thin
that we've seen in the film. Yes, so this huge
great white comes by and all the other smaller sharks

(39:04):
like the scatter I think it was.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I mean, he said it was like, I can't talk Australia.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Let's say it was a great So I can't talk Australian.
You mean English?

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I mean no, I mean but he said, oh that's
a that's a gold cool.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
He said, uh, oh, can I give you a tip?
Do you want to know how to talk with an
Australian accent? Please? Okay? So I can teach you how
to say razor blades with an Australian accent. Say the
words rise up lights, go.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Rise up lights.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Say it again, Rise up lights, rise say it again,
rise up lights. That's razor blades in Australian accent. Isn't
that amazing? Oh my god? I'm ready to go where
you play the bar? That is an awful joke that
I heard from one of my sister's friend years ago,
and I found it so ridiculously funny that I still
use it. You know what, rise up lights? What was
the joke they had in the movie? They're like, what's

(39:53):
the skin around? Well? Oh, what's the useless piece of
skinned around a dick man? The man? Yeah, anyway, comedy
comedy anyway. So she's in the water by herself, the
shark's coming. This is where I will say it felt
a little CGI ish, like when the shark's approaching her,
approaching her, and then it like swims right fire and
they make like eye contact.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, it was actually a beautiful scene. Like I was like,
I don't care that the shark is fake. I don't
care that she looks CGI. But when I say that,
I'm not saying it's like the worst CGI, like like
what's a really like sharknado.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
L.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I'm saying it like it's a beautiful scene, like the
shark makes eyes with their and it almost.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
It felt like almost like an understanding, Like I know
I'm reaching with this, but it almost felt like the
shark knew that she understood and respected it. Because the
funny thing is we forgot to mention. There's a one
scene where he is talking to her about how much
like he respects sharks and everything, and she's like, you
are not a shark. Sharks are evolved. You are a

(40:57):
despicable little like powerless man. Like she totally tells them all.
He's like, we're a lot alike. She's like we're not.
She's like no, She's like no, and she's like, sharks
are much more evolved than you. They're powerful, they know
like and so in a way when they have that
scene where she makes eye contact with the shark, I
felt like it was like the shark knows that she
respects it. The shark knows that that other guy's just
an idiot. Right.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Well, we didn't even discuss like why he's even doing this.
Like his whole thing is he's a collector like the
movie Creep, Like he's got videotapes.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Oh, he cuts a piece of each victim's hair out
and attaches it to their video.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
That is the one difference between Creep and this movie.
He's like, you know, okay, we got the videotapes and
their vhs and all the girl's names on it. And
it's very nice and neat, and he likes to sit
and eat cereal and just watch them and dance dance
like this is his idea fun. But I mean, what
a hobby.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
It's always tourists because it's usually people that are on
vacation that we could disappear easily. He The only backstory
on him we get is that when he was a
kid he was bit by a shark, because he does
show that first couple in the opening scenes, huge shark
bite in his side, and apparently maybe that's when he
went a little nuts and started respecting sharks and wanting

(42:06):
to put on shark shows. He's like, hey, you know
what I need.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I need a VHS camera, I need little cuts of
hair to remember the land.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I need to kill and it's I think it's almost
primarily women, because he's down that.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Really hot guy at the beginning and then just was like,
sharks eat him.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah. I think for the man, he just wants to
kill him, but for the women, he wants to see
them suffer. I mean, he's a sick motherfucker. But so
she's in the water and she's like that she's able
to sneak up back on the boat, and in a
great turning the tables moment, she grabs a harpoon, and
right before she shoots Tucker with the harpoon, she has

(42:42):
a cheesy one Lineright now it's a callback night because
this guy was an a hole. Okay. When she met
Moses first, they're talking about some artists they love, and
he loves a song called Hobi Doobie and she's like,
that's their dumbest song. What does that mean? And he's like, oh,
it means just like a feeling of love and you're
so excited about something. Right before she shoots him, she says, Hey,
Tucker Hooby Doobie, I didn't even remember that. I thought

(43:06):
it was it was so ridiculous. Now good callback bad
one liner? Hat tim Hooby doobi y? Your like, hey
a Tucker y, I'm just gonna just say something like
f you or how about hey Tucker sharks up? Like, hey,
serves that and that's what I meant, Hey Tucker Shark

(43:28):
got your tongue notes that's a good one. That's that's
a good one. That's why I'm not writing one liner
some movies. Anyways, So good, she shoots him with the harpoon,
byers one more unfortunate thing. So he gets pulled down
into the water, a shark grips him apart, like it
looked like.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
It was like it was like he was the shark
was jumping kind of like a free yeah, like a
free Willie. But the bad guy was like in his
mouth like this like half of the body, and he
also had the harpoon in him.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
So he's like that looked very sea Josh. But of course,
how else you can't how else are you gonna have
it half?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
They're like, how many takes can we do?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah? Can we rip them apart in the last take?
Can we put it? Can we put him in the
shark's mouth? Can't we get a real shark and rip
him in half? A real Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I mean that looked a little Again, I didn't care
that this movie looked a little fake because it was
all the actors were so good and I was rooting
for them, and like the bad guy was really bad
and the girl was so good that I was like
I'm in this. I was like, you got me, because
you got We've seen this story before, but but not
this way.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
No, That's why I say this way. We knew that
she was gonna live right, and we may have a
question like, oh she's gonna get There were parts because
some movies and in a bleak way that reports when
she almost made it to the to the safety and
then was getting smothered, I was like, oh my god,
this is it. So I didn't know. But here's where
the turn. You think she's safe now, Well, the shark
is pulling that guy and the harpoon is attached to

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the gun, and the gun is twisted on her legs.
So she gets pulled off the boat. The poor girl
hasn't suffered enough. I hold off to the boat into
the water, and you think like she is just Oh
my god, as she and then I remember, I was like, uh,
we're just that's it. She gets what if like.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Because like obviously her boyfriend has stabbed twice, you know,
beaten up like he does Like she was like okay.
So she goes in the water and dies and then
he just rots.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Thanks God, she was fine even though she got pulled
in the water. She gets back, she shoots a flare
gun and people are coming to rescue. But you do think,
for a moment, I thought that Moses had bled out
to death because she kept being like wake up, wake up,
wake up, And she does have one line that the
theater kind of chuckled a little where she's like, you
know you were right about me because he said I
think you're just afraid to like meet someone. She's like,

(45:38):
I do have more to live for than the ocean,
like you, And then he wakes up and smiled.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Right like he's almost like I'll play this.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
He's like, I'm gonna pretend to be dead until she
says something nice and like, oh, wake up.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
She likes me.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Oh you know, I've already bled you know, four quarts
of blood out, but like she loves me. I wish
they would have cut to like who Dooby?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I wish they had cut to Woby Dooby. But I
also wanted like them like just one last little scene
with like they were both on the beach like holding
hands with their surfboards. I don't know, oh you mean,
like just like that end, Like there's a quick little
tag like fine.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
How about this, how about this? This would be a great
good tell me, okay, help comes. They take them to
the hospital and he dies anyway.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, she's like on the way to the hospital, she
sitting and they're like.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Beep beep, we're losing him. And then they say hoop
and they play who we do right, and then they cut.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
To her face and just like one tier.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Comes down, one tier and it's the soap opera and
it says the bolt and the right and then okay,
we get just the torso of him, and he was
actually a robot and so he's like terminator like crawling
up on the beach.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
And then she goes, oh my god, my boyfriend's trying
to attack me. No, no, Tucker, not the boy Oh okay.
I was like, who Okay, I forgot that the bad
guy's name was Tucker.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Tucker.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I just I'll just call him Courtney.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
We are this is it's j Courtney. If it's Jay,
I'm gonna feel real dumb. I hate mispronouncing things. You mispronounced,
I don't know it. So one of us has to
not mispronounce. So like, if we're both mispronouncing, we're fucked. Well, okay, okay,
all in all with this movie, Look, I really enjoyed

(47:11):
this movie. I just thought it was a great cat
and mouse type movie. I already said that I like
that it wasn't just about the sharks that have had
this whole dynamic her versus him, the cat and mouse.
The escape attempt scenes were great. She was such a
likable character. He was such a scary villain. My only

(47:31):
two criticisms of this movie. A little bit of the
relationship between her and Moses was a little cringey. Again,
I know they needed to build the character, so I
don't mind it, but it was a little cringey in
some parts. And like you said, some of the cgish
images of the sharks did look a little faky. But
again it's like, how do you do a shark movie
today and make it all practical effects? Like, we're not

(47:54):
in the seventies, So I let all that go. And
I think this is one of the better shark movies
that has come out over the last couple decades. I
really do.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I agree everything you said, And like I was entertained
by their relationship.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I was entertained because I love the soap I do
love the soapy stuff. It's two beautiful leads.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I was totally even the bad guy was not bad
to look at, so I was like visually, I was
like in this and plus it was a beautiful location
on the water, and as someone who grew up with
the heavy, heavy dose of the movie Jaws. I enjoyed
the I mean, granted, even when the first couple was
in the cage the sharks weren't particularly actually was scared

(48:32):
by CGI sharks. Well, yeah I was scared, but I
was like it was done in a way that I
wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Oh well, but that's what makes a good shark movie
versus a cheesy one like Direquiem with Alicia Silverstone that
was so obviously not just CGI but like random stock
videos of sharks that looked like they weren't even close
to her and it would be and interspersed with shots
of her trying to react from it. It was just
so badly put together this one.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
This is a slick, yes, stylish movie, and like the
leads are so committed that yeah, like like everyone in
this movie is like we're in this and it's such
an entertaining film. I would I would be hard pressed
to find anyone that walked out was like I didn't
like it.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah, those people are a whole And that's the thing.
There's a reason it's doing so well on Rotten Tomatoes.
It there's a reason why people are saying it's one
of the better shark flicks. Like you said, even though
yes they hired beautiful people, they were all really good actors,
Like you cannot say, oh, they just hired these people
for their looks. These people were committed. Even most as

(49:34):
everyone was good. Jy Courtney was incredible, even the Dogs, which.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
We all thought was gonna get eaten by a shark
and did not.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, oh sorry. As a villain, Ji Courtney was incredible
as a villain. She was and I got to look
up her name again, Hasse Harrison, like, I'm gonna be
watching out for what she does next.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Oh, I would see anything that she's in, and I'm gay.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I mean, she needs to be in more horror movies.
She was great, and I also think like you said,
like there were so many suspenseful, good fighting scenes, and
the audience in our theater were actively rooting for her
when she finally got the upper hand. Some people clapped,
some people cheered. I mean, you know, you have a
proed film, a solid film, and a solid character that

(50:15):
people are really identifying with when the audience participates. I'm
talking like when Jamie Curtis says that people said, don't
go in there, when she was in Halloween that I
loved you. By the way, turn on the sixty minutes
interview of Jamie Curtis you'll find out what I'm talking about.
It's worth it. Well.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
The cool thing about the movie is that it definitely
has the rooting for this girl factor throughout because you
really want her to succeed. Oh and this audience. I
love that there was so much audience participation.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
It's great and again more reasons for we talked about
this when we talked about Final Destination Bloodlines. If you're
going to see an action packed movie like this, see
it in the theater. It is such a different experience
than streaming it at home. Yes, you will enjoy it
at home, but you're not going to get everyone's collective
reaction like you can feel the enthusiasm in the theater.
And I mean I feel like, Okay, I'm gonna be

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Nicole Kimen for AMC theaters.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Oh so you're gonna see Jurassic Park.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
We make movies better. My coke just appeared out of nowhere.
I didn't walk in with it, and where to Coke go?
Where to Coco? And it was there was no there's
no co check at AMC okay, and you always just
we always discuss. And also her drink appears out of
nowhere in that AMC.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Well, you know she's Nicole Kidman. Maybe someone brought it
to me.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Also, why is the theater empty?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
She rented it out. She's like, hello theater, I'm Nicole Kidman.
I'm coming to watch dresses. Kitmen should have been her mother, who.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Oh oh she Actually they would have looked alike.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
There can be a sequel and noicle Kidman be like
my daughter was almost eating my shop with lights with blights.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Oh my god. I feel like people watching this are
either getting like.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
They're like those dude, don't try Azzie.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
You're either laughing hysterically right now you hate us, that
are annoyed, And I hope that you were laughing with
us because we are having a good time and all
we want is for you to have a good time.
That's why we're called happy horror Time, right a sad time,
sad horror time, that'll be hard time. That's our offshoot
one where we only discussed depressing movies. And yes, and
we talk about that. That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I was definitely uncomfortable, and I did tell you I
did look at my watch like three or four times,
just because like, there's only so much torture. I could
see a grown man due to a woman, you know
what I meant.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Are tough to watch, but there was enough her fighting
back that gratify. And yes, and you you, this is
a movie you can you can stomach because of what
ends up happening to him, and and again, I just
think this was one of like obviously Jaws, Deep Blue
Sea was a great shark movie. Dead Calm, yes, Dead

(52:49):
Calm was good. I liked the Shallows. I know you
didn't love the Shadows.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
That was fakey.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I like the Shallows. But there are certain shark movies
that stand out to me as ones that I always remember,
and this is gonna be one of it just really is.
It's different than the others. And it was great performances
and it was just a good time, good time, good
time time. You know. We had the hooby doobies.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I have the Hooby Doobie now.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I want to look that up. Like I think they
actually at the end played the song, so it must
be a real song. I don't know what artists they
were talking about. Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam did yes, I
think that was their second album, Hooby Doobee.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, exactly, really good.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Okay, anyway, well, thank you all for watching and we'll
talk with you so bye bye. Oh get that on film?
Did you get that on fail? I got it on Fail?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
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