Ep 268: Pull Yourself Together

Real-life married couple, Alison Brie and Dave Franco, star in “Together” — part supernatural flick, part body horror, with a side of co-dependency and a dash of insanity. Tune in to hear us break down all those intense scenes (and there were many), how committed the two leads were, that perfect song played at the end, and how the film is a metaphor for issues we’ve all experienced in relationships.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, Welcome to Happy Hord Time. My name is Tim
Murdoch and my name is Wow. I just have that up.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
First line, good one, and guess what, We're not going
to cut it because my name is Matt Emmer and
we are unpolished, unfiltered, and what Tim uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
You know I have water here watchers and listeners, and
I don't want to like bring in it because I
feel like it's obnoxious, Like.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know what you need? You need like a cute
like cup, like a like a mug.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Or like in Game of Thrones when they had the
Starbucks cup that was in the.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Same what was the Starbucks? They had Starbucks and they
also had a water bottle.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
They twice messed up twice much worse than me going.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I mean, I love that we're comparing our Little Dog
and Pony Show to Gave Dog and Pony Show.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
This is a highly coveted podcast. Say yeah, you know
I need I want to start off this episode other
than by messing up, but I want to start off
this episode by making a correction to a ranking video
that we did. It was two weeks ago, actually I did,
and I just thought of this today and I was like,

(01:19):
how did I not include this in a ranking video?
Little background. If you haven't subscribed to us on YouTube,
definitely subscribe. And we switch off between doing news commentaries
and ranking videos where Tim or I will rank like
top ten this in horror or top of top able
dead Monash or top five horror Hunks or something. So

(01:40):
I did the top ten creepiest phone calls in horror
movies and I had my ten. I was really really
proud of it. And then today, out of nowhere, Jacob's
liked to me, hey, did you include prom.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Night in there? And I was like, oh my god,
I forgot about that with the Killer.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And he said, do you still like to play games?
And it's so good and that definitely would be in
my top ten and I messed up, Tim, So get
out the bamboosta.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
God.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
No, I think it's fine. We all make mistakes, but
it is a really good one because he says.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Like Windy, he goes windy.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
He has wish and the fact that we got to
interview the Killer tough, yes, the Killer from prom Night,
and I totally didn't mention his movie, but that would
one hundred percent be now where would it be maybe
like between five and seven, not top five.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, because top five.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I mean I stand by my top five in that
review or in that ranking. But but do you stand.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
By your man?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Tell me why at But do you stand by me
the movie?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I do love that movie. Jerry O'Connell. We interviewed Jerry O'Connell.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I know who else and you know, and and we
want to get Corey Feldman. Someday he'll be ready.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
To raise anyone out there knows Corey Feldman.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know he has been so much from the eighties,
but now he's doing music.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't want to you know.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
He has said on Christine Taylor's podcast, Hey Dude, Hey dude. Yeah,
he said, I don't want to talk about those movies.
He like, he said that to her, like, I don't
want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
You're like, the show is called Hey dude, it's the nineties,
so we're going to talk about nineties movie.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean, but those movies count ladies technically, So I
guess you had a point.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
But still you are right to him. That is a
good technical point. But one other plug I want to
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(03:42):
and that is where we release all of our bonus episodes.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
We talk about our favorite films like Silver Bullet, Deadly Friend.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Christine, all sorts of things. But we have two bonus
episodes every month and they it's different from our regular
content because it's about past horror movies. So if you've
ever been like, why haven't they talked about this movie
from the past, become a patron. We will definitely talk
about it. We also give patrons a chance to join.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Us in a bonus episode.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
We have a private discord chat, we have a monthly newsletter,
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Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, it's like if you go down to Starbucks and
get one coffee, but instead you'd get a month of
ear earrings.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
You'd get a month of earrings. That's true.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
It is for five dollars a month you get all
of our bonus content. So basically it's.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Like, actually I think Starbucks is more expensive. That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I mean, which is I mean, I'm not even a
coffee drinker, but when I am.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
But when I am Folders, I totally forgot. We also
do an after show every month, so we have there's
so much bonus content. It really pays. Get it, Tim, Yeah, Okay,
it pays because they're paying and you're paying and we're
paying them in content and yeah, anyway, Yeah, so lots
of bonus content. And we have a lot of fun

(05:06):
with our Patreon episode.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I mean I think you see the real me?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, and sometimes does it shirtless?

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, I'm just like, god, this shirt's hot, bottomless. Something
to tell you till you have the subject of Patreon, but.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Please join, please join. Thank So today I went hiking.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Okay, okay, this gonna be about being shirtless.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yes, because I was like, god, I'm so pale.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I took off my shirt because like the it was
like empty, and I was like, I'm gonna get some Okay,
Like I was like, I'm not gonna get burnt because
I'm not gonna it's maybe an hour from the beginning
to the end of it.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
So no, I mean I was fine. No, No, there
was one ridiculously hawk guy that like was running and
ran past me. I was like, I'm fat and pale.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I am really pale. Also, I am like, I don't know,
I just haven't been I know.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I mean the reason I told the story is because
I want you to praise me for my bravery.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh, I praise you like fat boy Slim said, praise you.
Uh No, I mean this is Tim rarely even wears
a tank top, let alone take a shirt off. So
the fact that you took your shirt off, you really
must have thought you were an isolation.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I thought I was an isolation, and I was like, God,
I would like to not have a farmer's tan.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Now it's probably gonna take more than one. It is
crystal crystal bronze.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
The problem with like a natural tanning, I'm not saying
people should do it unnaturally. I actually do whatever you
can burn, do whatever you feel like it. But the
problem with natural tanning is that it takes a while,
like it really does, unless you like burn yourself, but
and then it comes back to being tanned. But then
that's really unhealthy for your skin, Like all the sun

(06:47):
is unhealthy for you. But at the same time, tan skin,
it's it's like we're conditioned to think it looks better.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
So it's like I think it's like a mental thing.
It's like a healthy glow. Yeah, and I guarantee you.
Like when I got home and then I took a shower,
I was like, didn't get.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Any healthy break.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I didn't get I didn't get not that.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I remember once my dermatologists. I was asking about tanning, like, oh,
is there like a healthy way to do He's like, actually, no,
like your body turning tan is actually a bad response
to soun like or a negative response to son, so
meaning like it's not good. Nicole Kidman's got beautiful guy,
but she like it's all one perfect thing. Like when

(07:26):
you have a farmer's tan, it's like, really it's like
tan on the arms. I just did this and then
white here. It's that funny they call it farmers because
you're working in the farm.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, I get it. I don't even work in a farm.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
You don't, but you were in LA But wait, what
was the hike that you went on?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Ohrman Fryman.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
For those who don't live in LA That's a common hike,
not as common or like ritzy as Runyon Canyon. That's
like the Hollywood one.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Don't try to go there on the weekends because that's
just a mess.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
But if you do look for Tim with his shirt.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Off, it's once in a every ten years.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
It was a one cent that what if there was
like paparazzi take happy hard time? Co host Tim takes shirt.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Off and they're like, what's happy horror time? How dare you?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Every paparazzi calls us when we are going out, I'm
like enough, guys, it's really me saying, hey, guys, do
you want to picture? Please? Anyone?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Anyone?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, okay, okay, anyway, we're here today to talk about
a really fun new movie to discuss. I've been excited
about talking about this with you, Tim, and I'm hoping
we can do it together.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Don't touch me.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
To get it?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
So yeah, yeah yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Or or wasn't there a show called to get her
to get her on MTV?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I'm probably no.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
That sounds like one, but it's not like ringing a bell?
What was it about?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I didn't watch it? To get her?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Was dating? Showy?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, it was like they were like it was about
a boy band and there I think their band was
called to Get Her.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Oh I hated. I know I.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Was, although I used to watch like the original making
the band with yikes, p Diddy wow that what was
the one with Otown and ash That was Otown? Yes,
making the band And by the way, fun fact for
all of you people watching right now. Uh, a good
friend of mine from high school, Trevor Pennock, is one
of the members of Otown. And the reason I say
is and not was, is because I saw on his

(09:21):
Instagram they're like doing revival cons.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Does he remember you?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah? He got me well in college, he got me
tickets and like meet and greet stuff to their Boston
concert because I was going to school in Boston and
like we still we only just talk over social mediator Ashley.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Uh yeah yeah. Did you get a picture with Ashley?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I have pictured the The nicer one was Jacob. The
other guy he had like I think he had.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
The because he loves to beless.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
You because you think he's hot. He is hot. They're
all good looking and no, Trevor and I were friends.
We did drama together in high school. We weren't like
close after high school. But it's like if I messaged
him on Instagram today, he'd probably respond because we have
that social media kind of like hey Matt, I mean,
heyval concert's going. I mean, look, I'm all for I

(10:11):
love seeing bands from like the past, and so why
not go o town. Although Ashley Angel is not part
of Okay, thank you, thank you for saying.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
His full name, because all I got was Ashley I
was Ashley Angel was not.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I mean that's such a like a name to remember,
Ashley Angel. It's not like Ashley Splargovic, Ashley Judge, Ashley Judd. Yes, Okay,
so together. Wow. Now we knew going into this movie
that it was going to be insane and that it
was body horror, and that there were gonna be a
lot of metaphors for like relationships and codependency and stuff.

(10:49):
But wow, this movie, I mean, just quick off the
cuff thoughts, like I really enjoyed this movie. Yeah, because
even though it bordered on insanity, it kind of attacked
everything in a grounded enough manner.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know what I really liked about it because you know,
at least my brain and maybe your brain as well,
our brains we just saw I know you did last summer,
So they weren't really taking the whole situation seriously. These
two actors, Dave Franco and Alison Brie, they played it
so straight. Yeah, So I was like, the more they
were nervous, I guess I was nervous.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, And that's what I was gonna say. Like the
way that they they did or attempted or tackled this
material in such a grounded, real way had me buying
into it. So even though crazy shit was happening that normally,
like if not done well, i'd be like, what the
fuck is this? They sold it like these actors sold it.

(11:44):
I think it was very smart how they had the
plot proceed and there wasn't too much explanation of the
supernatural element.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I don't wish there was nothing.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, they gave us a little bit just to
keep the story going, yeah, but not too much.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Like it was like, it wasn't like the cold that
you find out about in that weird supernatural water, Like
you don't find out too much about it, right, so
it's enough that you can be like, okay, I'll just
buy into it. But like, yeah, so I was pretty impressed.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
By this, they could have titled it cave Water.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
That would definitely water, you know, and they and I
was reading some articles that like a big selling point
for the director. The writer. Director's name is Michael Shanks,
and it was his first movie, uh that he wrote directed,
and this is pretty admirable for your first movie. But
what I was gonna say is he talks a lot
about how it was so important that they had Dave

(12:37):
Franco and Alison Brie a real life married couple, because like,
they sold the dynamic of a couple in this very devoted, committed,
toxic relationship really well. So it's like, you know, like
they are a couple, So it wasn't like they had
to play a couple.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I was confused because okay, when I not that like
that should go on our bingo car, I was confused.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, let mean because when the movie started, I think
Dave Franco and Alison Brie are in their forties, right, both.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Of I think they're either late thirties or early forties.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Can we get their exact age?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Only because when the movie started, didn't you think just
their lifestyle and everything seemed like people in their twenties.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
A little bit just like, yeah, well that was the point,
especially Dave frank Okay, so Dave Franco just turned forty
last myself and Alison Bree is forty two, turning forty
three this year.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I feel great.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So, yes, they are close to our age, closer to mine.
But that's jab, that's that nice word. Yeah, that'd be
a big one. Yeah, so when we first meet, So
let's jump into it, because when you first start this movie,
Alison Brie and Dave and their names are tim. Yes,
so you'll remember that, and Milly Milly feels likely.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I don't even remember him really saying it much. He did,
but it was just it.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I don't know some reason I look at Alison Breen,
I don't see her as a Millie nine.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
The whole time I was watching, I was like, Alison Brie,
not just her first name, but her last name and Tim.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I loved it, of course you loved Tim. Now, Alison Bree,
do you think of Bree Cheese my favorite chief? Yes?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I thought of Screen four of course.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Of course, you were my nineties thinking of that. Anyway, Okay,
we meet them. They're in I think they're in New York,
but they're in the city and they're having a going
away party, because basically the backstory that you get really
quickly is they are in a long term relationship. They
are not engaged. They've been together for I think they
said ten years. Oh yeah, yes, yes, And Alison Brie

(14:39):
just got a teaching job in like a rural area
way outside of the city, and Dave Franco is gonna
move with her, and they're getting a house way outside
of the city.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
That house was huge.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
And I mean, from what I know about teachers, I mean,
I don't think their paychecks are that lucrative.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yes, but remember, like you, if you're thinking houses in
a city, yes, but house in a rural area in
the middle of nowhere, beautiful house.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
You know what real estate's like when you go to
like some like Montana. Oh my god, we could afford
like a humongous house. What are we doing here in
LA It's like an apartment, trust me, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
And that's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
It's like, you you pay for your location, not for
your space.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
So what's that famous phrase, location, location, location, I think
it said just like that, Yeah it is, and just
like that, and just like that, Carrie, Carrie Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Anyway, so they're moving. But this is the awkward part.
First Off, Dave Franco, you can tell, is the one
in the relationship who he's kind of like a struggling
musician who doesn't quite have a job.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, I mean, I mean, it's it's I know many
and uh, it's this really I'm not saying it hit
close to home, but I mean, just does someone like
am I an actor? Sure, I can't even say that
I am, But I mean I think musicians that's such
a harder road.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I think, I think both are very difficult. And I
think that it is so commonplace in relationships that there
is one partner that has a more like lucrative job
or a more stable job and the other one is
kind of trying to achieve their dreams but sort of
living off the other person. And you get this feeling
that their dynamic has a little bit of resentment to it.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Right from the get go. But I think they genuinely
liked each other.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
They did one hundred percent genuinely loved each other.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
They genuinely loved each other.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, obviously Dave Franco was dragging his feet a
little bit, and obviously the scene that's about to happen.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oh well he will, see.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
The thing is, yes, he is gonna remember even though
she is the breadwinner, you know, uh moving there for
a job. He's giving up his life in the city
to move with there, so it is a commitment. But
in the most awkward proposal ever there she Alison Breed,
gets down on one knee behind him without a ring

(17:01):
a fake ring box.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I don't even think there was a box.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
She just went like this with her hands, and she
surprises him and he's so caught off guard that he
doesn't answer her for a moment, and everyone's just like
sitting there awkward, and she starts to get up and
says okay, and he says no, no, no, of course I will,
of course I will.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But it's so embarrassing, And you know, I really like
that the writer director first time, he really really drives
home that cringe factor because not only the audience us
that's not and Tim, but also the people at that
party watching like that was also cringey, but like because
he didn't immediately say yes, like oh my god, yes,

(17:40):
when you just have that pause and say I mean
because you might as well have just said I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I mean, I was like, yeah, I obviously didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
But the only this is how I feel about proposals.
I think whoever is proposing to someone should already know
that their partner is going to say.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yes before she genuinely shot that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
They should know it's the right time, they should know
they're not catching them, so by surprise that they're going
to have that reaction. So the thing is is that again,
like you said, I don't doubt that Dave Franco loves.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I don't think he was in the right headspace. That's
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Three seconds before that, these guys were like, hey, we
want you to play guitar in our band. So he
was like, yeah, I get to play guitar in their band.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, And and he was like, but can I commute
from our new house? And they're like, I guess that's
gonna be tough. So but the thing is is that
also the way she did it, I've got to say, like,
if you don't have any sort of ring and you're
just doing your hands like that, looks like you didn't
actually put thought into.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I thought it was so sweet. I just thought no.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
But like I'm not saying again, I don't need so
big no no no, but like you know what I mean,
it's like like, if you're going to plan to do
the court to pop the question, have something to offer
your partner. Also, I feel like I'm a big proponent
of it doesn't have to be the man asking the woman.
I'm a big proposal I'm a I'm a big proponent
of like whoever wants to ask should ask. But I

(19:01):
also think maybe he wasn't Maybe he thought he should
be the one asking and she didn't know that. And
I just think these are things that couples should know
before they do the proposal.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I agree, I.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Agree, And I honestly believe that she thought that there
were one hundred percent on the same page. Yeah, so
I don't fault her and I you know, I mean,
he seems to be just sort of kind of like
go with the flow anyway.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
But he also he has a dream that night that's
very telling because he dreams that she's saying under her breath,
you need me more than I need you.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And you know, okay, okay, I'm so glad we're talking
because like I don't think we talked after the movie.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
So this was all a dream that was all a dream.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Okay, she was not saying that because this is before
any of the supernatural stuff happened. And also now I'm
not exactly sure if this was necessary, and I want
to get your thoughts in this, but he has a
little bit of a traumatic backstory that you find out
where he found his mom sitting in bed with his
dad who had been dead for hours, and she was

(20:00):
so crazed and in shock about it, except she didn't
accept it. Was sitting there smiling, and you see this
really creepy scene where he walks in his dad's like
mutal like like rotting body next to his mom smiling.
And now here's the thing. It was a great element
of a scare and creepy. But what did that mean

(20:24):
for the movie?

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I thought it was like one of those visual scares
that will stick in your brain. And I thought it
was executed really good because I'm picturing it right now.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
No, it was.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
But I guess did that relate to their relationship?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I mean, in his mind, I think he's fighting, not
becoming that.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Actually, I just thought of it. I don't know why,
because up until this point I was like, well that
doesn't make sense. Actually, now that I think about it,
it does. I think maybe that was showing that his
mom was literally so co dependent on his dad that
she couldn't even accept that he died, like literally had
to sit there pretending he was alive. So of course
it makes sense with this movie now.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes, yes, where he had that vision of his mom
with the dead dad and they were just having that conversation.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I thought that was all real.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Oh no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Right when that conversation was happening, I was having flashbacks
to because you know, I don't know how you not
compare yourself to or so I was thinking, like, Okay,
it's been a while.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Since I've been in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I think it's been like eight years, but I was
in a four year relationship and I was like, there.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Was a part of me. I was like, I never
want to be in a relationship again.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I mean, look like I was just like, I don't
think that relationships are for everyone, and I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, like, I mean I saw a movie about it,
but I.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Mean it's funny because we also saw this and I
was sitting there and Jacob, my partner, our producer, was
there too, and I was thinking like, I know, we
both were thinking about, like what aspects of this story
relate to our relationship and are there and you know,
every couple has their issues and have things related to it,
and there's things we.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Can't talk about yours because your boyfriend might hear this.
Well my will and I can.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
But I'm just saying I'm not gonna tell you what
I identified with in the movie.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
But what I'm saying is that everyone watching this.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Movie in a relationship or having been in a relationship,
is gonna think about their relations now.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I mean, of course I'm thinking. As I was watching,
I was thinking about my relationship. But there was another
part when, like during that whole proposal, I was like,
would I have married the person that I was with?
And then I and then I thought to myself in
the back of my mind, I I always knew that
the end would come, but I did not.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Know when this is getting I know, no, no, I'm
never I guarantee he'll never watch it on YouTube. No no, no,
And I uh know, And that's a good reason. But
that's the thing, Like I mean, I think it's much
worse to get proposed and then be miserable or to
get married and be miserable than to just not marry

(22:54):
at all.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Just to clarify, I think we both liked each other,
but I think our time was of course.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Of course. And well, one other thing that happens in
this after this failed proposal and they're sitting in bed
they actually do before the dream, they have a talk
where she basically says, you know, is this gonna work?
Like do you want to be a thing? And he's like,
of course, of course, and she's like, because it's gonna
get a lot harder to break up after we move.
So you gotta figure that part wasn't no because they

(23:20):
were sitting okay, wow, everything when she was turned over
and saying awful things. There is a.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Point like when you're having those deep conversations like is
this the end or is this not the end? Or
someone says something like I don't know if either person's
saying something like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well, and especially not if you're being proposed to, you
better know, you better work, you better know. Okay. So
let's move on to them moving out into the country
and their beautiful house, and they have this weird scene
where he spots he has this horrible smell and they
find these rats like in the ceiling.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Gross.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
It was really gross because he's tugging at it for
so long.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Were you wondering what it was because earlier in the movie,
or like, was this earlier in the movie when the
two dogs were looking at each other?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Oh my god, we totally didn't talk about that.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Okay, So the opening of Them, I can thumb this
up real quick. There is these two dogs in a
cave and they're drinking water and then they look at
each other. They don't stop looking at each other, and
then I guess I can't.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Figure was there.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
And later the owner finds the dogs. Hear's them like
having these weird mutated barks and growls, and you see
a quick bit of them fused together, and then it
says together right, right, right, So, yes, we forgot about
that opening scene because we're so focused on the two
of them.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Right, the relationship. It was a good opening scene.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
And you know what I'm going to say is I
think it was necessary because where going. Yes, it kind
of set us up for Okay, there's something in this
water that causes things to feel connected so much that
they start to fuse. And we knew that we were
headed toward this.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
With our copy, and the movie should have been called
Cave Water, you know, lovely title c W for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so let's move on to They decide,
you know, like, oh, let's go explore. We're going to
take a hike. So they go hiking and the best
part is they get totally lost and it's pouring rain
and then they fall into a cave. Now, first off,
that was giving me cheepers, creeper cheepers, scrippers.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
And also look like the inside of like an alien
ship or I mean obviously it wasn't the ship, but
it was just like alien parts.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, this is a question for you. So when they're
they fall into this cave and it's so slippery and wet,
that's what she said that they decide. Now, I don't
think I would have ever decided that they're gonna just
stay the night in this cave and laid out the storm.
I would have been my ass would have been climbing out.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
So instead they're like, oh, we have a we have
a blanket in the backpack, we have like a water bottle,
we've got matches. I was like, no, no, no, no, get
out of Yeah, let's let's try to climb up.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Like, do you notice they didn't even try to climb up. Yes,
it was wet, like you can climb.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
People climb up things.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
When I was like, well, I don't know what the
problem was, but they had to sleep there overnight and
drink the dirty cave water.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Well, so that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
They're there and they see the same like pond of
water that the dogs saw in the opening scene, and
and James Frank James Franco, Dave Franco, that's a controversial.
Dave Franco like tries and says, oh it's good water, Yeah,
we can have it, and brings it to it, brings
it to Alison Brien. We knew at this point, Oh
they are fucked. But to get back to your alien question,

(26:30):
one thing I noticed, and this is something that I
haven't seen in any article, but like I got the
feeling they never explained where the supernatural water came from.
But I got the feeling that it could be extraterrestrial
because the cave looked like it could have been where
a ship had landed, and there was something weird with that.

(26:50):
But nobody mentions aliens No.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
And it's weird because they're they're Okay, let me see
if I can get this out their church pews. Oh yes, yes, okay,
because I was like, I don't even know how to
say pews, let alone spell it ew pews. So there's
church pews that are like kind of broken up all
around the cave. And in addition to that, there's like
these bells with like a little sun symbol on it

(27:14):
that kind of led them there. And he's like, oh,
it's it's uh this uh what's it called?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Path is marked marked? But no, it wasn't. And you
do find out later that this used to be a church,
which will come into play when we get later in
the movie, and it it fell through the ground something
or it's yeah, like because they.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Do use those pews the next morning when it's daylight,
but before they go out, when they first wake up,
they're like stuck together.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Just their legs are they're just well. First off, he
has this horrible dream where he is breathing but can't
get a deep breath without feeling like the entire cave
is breathing with them. And again this kind of made you.
First off, it made me feel like I need.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
To take anything, and then when he turned to her,
she was.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Going to yah, yeah, it's very bizarre and obviously something
is fucked up in this cave.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Alien cave water. I want to go get some of
that cave water.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yum me, I heard it is delash so he yes.
They wake up and they notice very subtly that their
legs are stuck together and they have to like pull
it apart, and they're like.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Oh, what is this mold on our life?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
She's like, she's like, what is that and he's like,
uh mildew yeah yeah, and so okay, so we know
something's wrong. We then get some scenes as whenever she
now is going to work or taking the car, he
starts to have it's almost like seizures, like he is
starting to move like she's moving in the car. And
there's one really well done scene where he's in the shower.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, that's a good scene.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
He's in the shower naked and he starts like losing
consciousness and as the car turns, his body turns and
keeps banging against the shower walls as in the direction
the car is going, like he's moving in the same
direction her body's movie.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, the best way to describe that is magnetic.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yes, it felt very magnetic. But imagine it's like Tim,
like do a movement, and I just did.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Know you'd be going towards me because you're a son.
That was a great, great example.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I've met people watching her like great exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Job.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, good job. Anyway, So yeah, he's having all these
episodes and he's like worried about what is going on.
Nothing's happened to her yet. And then we even get
into the point we meet there's one other character in
this film. It is Millie's co worker and his name Jamie.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Jamie. Yes, your brother's name, isn't that We're Jamie and
Tim are in this movie.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yes, he's another teacher there, and he kind of just
tells him that he lives near them, and then he
actually stops over there uninvited for jam I actually.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Really liked this scene because there was a lot of
chemistry between Jamie and Millie, but there was also a
lot of jealousy between.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Tim and Jamie.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, God, you're really good at these names, because I
wonder why, well, you know, never, I'm just gonna say
it happens never, but like you get your family names
into it.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Tim and Jamie tim there's.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
No Milly anyway. So one great thing about this scene,
and it's really due to the writing and the performances,
is that like as they're talking with Jamie, it's those
uncomfortable like they have a mini like fight, like like
she's kind of jokingly putting Dave Franco down, saying he's
the only thirty five year old that doesn't have a
driver's license, and he's like, well, that just means I

(30:28):
have to build my schedule around you, and she's like, well,
it doesn't mean you don't have like like they're going back.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And forth with each he's the only one that cooks,
and she goes, well, if it wasn't for you, I
wouldn't eat, or like they had all this like banter.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, like they but like he's like, yeah, you wouldn't
have food, and she's like, well, you wouldn't have a
place to go. And they're doing all this in front
of this like new coworker actually.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Played it off very well Jamie, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
But it's it kind of like anybody in a relationship
who's had like a disagreement in front of other people
and most people have knows that is so awkward for me.
It's one of the most awkward things. Like I hate
airing dirty laundry.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Because I enjoy it, but only for my drama filled
rama filled reality the worst, like I hate airing dirty laundry,
and this one, like you they're kind of doing this,
but luckily he then leaves and Dave Franco thinks he
has a crush on her and she's like, no, no,
not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
But this thing is.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Where like I don't want to say it's yeah, I
guess it's the scene where it gets a little weird
because like after Jamie leaves, he's like, he's got a
crush on you and she's like, no, he doesn't. So
then like all of a sudden, he gets like kind
of woozy, and then he pulls Millie close and they
start making out like hot and heavy, and because okay,
so one thing that we have to go back to
is like apparently there's sex drive or like there's sexually

(31:42):
not nothing's going on.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And they haven't had sex in a long time, and
she blames him and she thinks it's because of the
parents' things, and so randomly after this jealousy, he like
gets like magnetically pulled to her and they start making out.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
She thinks for a second, but then they're lips get
stuck together and she's like, why are you biting me?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
She so their lips start to get stuck together and yeah,
She's like, oh my god, what are you doing. You're
biting me and stuff and he's like, no, no, I didn't.
And there's also one other scene where he's giving her
a massage. Oh I didn't like that, and he's like
doing it and his hands are starting to like almost
pull at her body and like pull at it, and
she's like, ow, you're hurting me.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I feel like the way they filmed it, it looked like
he literally was breaking her back. And before we go,
I mean, because we're just about to go into like
all we're kids nuts. But they have this really cute
scene where he was looking at Facebook and they were
looking at this couple that happens to be missing in
the area yea, and they said, oh gosh, their last
their last post on Facebook was like off for a

(32:43):
hike or something. She goes, she goes, I hope ours isn't.
He goes, well, what would ours be if it's our
last Facebook post? So they cut they go to hers,
well it's actually he's tagged in it, and it says, uh,
we did.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
It, and we have like keys.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
We did it like as they know, with the keys
to a house, would you like? And they even last
they say it's the most basic post because ever or
something like we took the plunge and she said she
wanted her last post to say be right back dying,
which I thought was hilarious. But anyway, so jumping forward.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Because I think we as humans all think about.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
That, be right back dying.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean, just like our social media, what happens to it?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
We die, to be honest, that's the last thing. That
is the last thing I'm concerned about about dying.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
I don't give a shit about the last picture I posted.
Look gorgeous, I know you do.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay, So we get to a point he goes to
see a doctor and they just prescribe him a muscle relaxer,
that's all.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
And so he's going to.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Go into the city to do a gig and she's
really at like she's really happy about that. Well, they
need a little bit of time apart, and so he's
waiting at the train station. But because he's so far
from her. He's starting to get like the seizure thing
a bit, and he's starting to lose consciousness. So he
literally leaves his stuff, walks back from the train station

(34:01):
right into her school, and this is where it gets insane.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, this is actually really funny because like, as she
sees him outside the window, she's having a zoom with
her friend and she's telling her. She's like, yeah, you know,
ten years ago he brought me a Spice Girl's record
and like, I was like, oh my gosh, whatever song
they picked is going to come into play. It did,
Like I love that, Like her friend, it was really
good comic timing.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
She's like, she goes, that was ten years ten years ago,
what has he done?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Sense?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
It's like silence, she goes, she goes, what has he done? Sense?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And she was like but then she sees him and
he and this was so this was like awkward but
kind of hot, but also like just crazy at the
same time. She pulled she he kind of like pulls
her into the student's bathroom and into a stall and
starts hardcore making out with her, and then it turns

(34:53):
into them having sex right in my stall.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Because apparently they haven't had sex in so long that
she was like, Okay, I'm down to do this at
my brain, my brand new job in a kid's bathroom.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
All I can think is that she got like wrapped
up in the moment. Obviously poor judgment, because what happens is,
first off, they have sex and they're really going at it.
But as you knew there was gonna be something with this.
He can't get out of her, he can't get his
dick out of her because they.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Are I knew this was coming because their lips were
stuck together, and I was like, well, okay, if their
lips get stuck together, I can only imagine what's going
on downb there.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
And she is like thinking, oh my god, it's just
been a while. I'm a little bit tighter, and he's like, no,
I can't get out, and he starts pulling at what
it and they have a This is a great It
was obviously prosthetics, right well.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I mean it's another like I don't even think they
were doing it for shock, because they could have been
actually more shocking, but what they did show us was
just enough.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
They show like basically his penis, but the part of
it being pulled and looking like it's being pulled out
of her and you see enough. I mean it's definitely prosthetic,
but like it is shocking but hilarious but crazy.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
So then like her neighbor and coworker Jamie, comes in
and she's in there washing her hands and he's like,
you know, we'll just keep this between us.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, he at that time he hasn't seen that there's
someone in a stall, but he sees blood dripping from
her and he's like, I think you should clean yourself up.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
So then right like there's one little lake real quick
as he's walking out, he sees not James Franco, Dave
Franco's foot like come down the stall, like kind of
like a La scream.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, so you think that she is she gonna be fired,
like and but at the same time, it's like they
did finally have this intimate moment. Yes it was in
a bathroom stall, and yes they got stuck inside of
each other, but like you're thinking, like, Okay, maybe this
is gonna be what is this going to lead you?
What's going on? So anyway, as we're moving forward in
the plot, we do find out there's a little backstory

(36:56):
on because she goes to Jamie's, her coworker's house, to
apologize because she's mortified, and he kind of talks to
her about there's a picture of two men on his
mantle and she's talking to him about it, and he
says that was his partner.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Did you know right away? At first?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I This is how naive I was. I was like, oh,
it's a picture of him and his brother. I did
not think it was him and a partner. I don't
even when he was talking about his partner. Well, then
I also I know gay I knew the.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Twist of this also, and I turned to Tim and
said it, which I'm not gonna say yet, but so
he's saying that basically, he said, because she's talking about
that they're having some issues in their relationship, and he
gives her this story. I think she said, like Plato
thought that humans all used to be like two headed,
two bodied, like merge two people, and then Zeus in

(37:45):
Greek mythology thought it was too much power, so split
all of them in half, and now humans spend eternal
life looking for their other half. And I'm like, this
is very telling for this movie.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I was like, Okay, I'm hearing this and I'm like, okay,
we got it.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
But like and so I'm getting okay, I get the
fusion type element. I'm like, is he involved somehow? Because
this is two things? And then he's talking about his
partner as his partner's not there anymore, but he never.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Says die right. I was like, okay, what's going on?
So we already know that.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
These like hikers that they were looking up on Facebook
were missing. And then I was like, I think I
dog started. I was like, I was like, I don't.
I can't remember if I turned to you, but I
was like, I think Jamie's in on this.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, but I turned you and I said, and I
don't think you heard me?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
And his partner merged I said that, and I think
of it.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
No, you were not like that.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
And because if you look closely at the picture on
the mantle, you could see that the two guys, it
almost looked like half he like he had attributes from
both of them. And I'm like, oh my god, he's
like a merging of these two guys. And I mean,
it's not like it it took a rocket scientist to
figured this out. We know what the movie's about. But
I was like, okay, I got it anyway, let's keep

(38:55):
moving forward. There's the things really the scenes start to
really intensify, because fine, there's one night when there's a
lot of creepy shit happening. Dave Franco's on the internet
and he hears Alison Breed banging her head against the wall,
like being pushed up against it.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It was a really cool the way they did this
because like whoever the set designer was is like, they're
the kind of doors where you can't see and it's
kind of like crinkled glass. So it's like it's very
I think it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
To look at.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
And then there's also a part where they're in the
hallway and they start literally physically being pulled toward each other.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Because they really try, and he's like, okay, I'm going
to sleep in here in the guest room and you're
going to sleep in the main room. So their bodies
were literally like going together in the hallway.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
It's like their bodies wouldn't let them be Like it
was very creative.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
It was.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
It was creative, and it was really well done in
all the practical effects. I mean some with cgi, but
all they get back this is where.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I'm a bitch moaning complain about CGI, but in this one,
it really.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I didn't have to. There's no practical ef you could
just do that.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Well, now he's like sliding toward her and trying to
hold himself back and she is literally like back bending.
Intern Like, this is like the creepiest imagine the ring
with Samara coming out of the TV. It felt like that.
The way that they were creeping coming out.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Seen from the Exorsus nineteen seventy.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Four was the three the seventy three and it was
the crab Walk.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yes, but it was cut from the film, but that's
what it looked like.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yes, so there's all this stuff and it looks like
they're unconscious during it. But like then they get up
to each other and their hands literally merge into each other.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
And so what was that drug that Parker Posey was
taking in White Lotus was the backs of pam larazapam.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
It's basically value and so he they finally Alison Brie realizes,
oh my god, works actually physically merging, and he says, wait,
take these muscle relaxers. It'll slow down the process. And
he's like, we gotta snort them and literally they're so
good at this. They're they're pouring them out and snorting
them on the floor, and.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It was was really cool the way they I was like,
how they're going to open because you kind of need
two hands to open like a bottle of pills.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
So he she was holding it and he with his hand,
so they're working together as a team.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
And I'm just thinking, like with this, it's like obviously
the measures you're if you're so in shock that you
think that you're merging with someone, It's like, what is
the first thing. I couldn't even imagine what I would do,
but like I probably would go to some sort of medication,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I mean, they took all the medication except for like
two pills.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I thought they were going to overdose because they were taking, yeah,
like all of them, and I think you can kill
yourself with too much.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I don't know, I've never take I can't even pronounce larazapam.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, don't even try it, but like anyway, but okay,
So it's a very chaotic scene and then he wakes
up the next morning and this is the big trailer scene.
She has him tied to a chair and she's on
top of him, and she basically says, I need to
separate us, and he looks and they're full of four
arms are connected. Let's do it, tim Okay, okay, cut

(41:56):
us out, cut.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Us Oh wait, wait wait wait wait.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Oh my god, do it out. Oh oh my god,
we're there. It is okay. So this is the whole
thing where she's giving him whiskey and she has an
electric knife.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Have you seen those before her?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
But are they for cutting turkey?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
My aunt used to have one I will never forget
and used it to carve turkey every year when I
was a kid for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
It we'd be like when they were first moving in
and he put that box down and like he goes, oh,
my dad didn't even let me use this when I
was a kid.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I was like, that's gonna come up.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
And she takes the knife, and I will say, I really,
I really like the director's choice in a scene because
we didn't see every bit of it cutting through skin,
when blood going everywhere. He kind of like moves the
camera away to their reaction.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
No, Dave's reaction was excellent and Millie Alison Breeze were
both excellent.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
So good because like the way they show pain on
their faces as they're cutting through, and you see it
a little bit, but it's not so bad that it's
like terrifier, blooding guts right now.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
And you know, I was wondering, like, I mean, obviously
you and I see a much more heavier dose than
the average filmgoer. Ye, I wonder if it's if it's
cringey like eh, or if it's like terrifying.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I mean for me in that scene, yeah, for me,
I just appreciated it. That's I think it was just
a really good scene. And I think that people who
maybe don't love Gore so much will appreciate that. The
director was like, I'm gonna give you just a taste
of it, and then I'm gonna show their reactions, because
sometimes seeing the fear in people's eyes can be scarier
than seeing what's going I.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Agree, like the way Dave Franco turned like the other
way and like was this faith looked like, I mean,
how do you even practice that again?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
This movie, like it really relies so heavily on the
performances of the leads, Dave Franco and Alison Brie. They
both are so great at playing this couple because they
are a couple and playing the different emotions that they
go through, and just the different like you said, the jealousy,
the fear, the love, the sexual attraction and everything. And

(43:58):
I also hand it to the right your director, because
again as a first timer, to pull something this insane
off and pull it off well where we're not laughing
at it, we're laughing with it at times. It is
so commendable.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Dave Franco is known for comedy, so like he didn't
play it comedic at all, Like, I'm so happy the
movie did not go like there.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Were some parts where they said comedic lines to each other,
but that was the comedy we were supposed to laugh.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Right, Like I was laughing with it never act.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yes, exactly, like when they're doing the making fun of
the social media posts, like that was comedy of like
two people in a relationship making I think that's very relatable.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Of course, I think every couple.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Makes fun of every of course, and make fun of
themselves too. Anyway, we get to we're getting closer to
the climactic ending because okay, they've now bandited each other
up and Alison Brie wants to go to the hospital.
Dave Franco wants to go investigate the cave more to
find out because he knows it's this water. So she says, no,

(44:59):
we're going to the hot but I left my keys
at Jamie's, so she goes to Jamie's while he goes
to the cave. So two things going on. Let's start
with the cave.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
He said that together.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I did you know what that means?

Speaker 3 (45:09):
We're sharing the same one? Oh so dumb? And why
don't even think we're in view of the camera.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Can put your arm out? Dream up?

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Oh? Tim is for the best?

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I use miseries line, it's for the best. Okay, we
sold it, so.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I think the audience like they're like David.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Okay part two. Yeah, So in let's start in the cave.
He goes into the cave and big surprise, we knew
this was gonna happen. He finds the missing hikers and
they have morphed into some like humanoid disgusting creature.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Remind you of Do you remember the movie House from
nineteen eighty six?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Remember that big thing? Yes?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
But you know what, it reminded me more of the thing,
the original thing, because it's like not quite morphed, like
I guess we're supposed to get the idea that they
really resisted it so much that they became this monster.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
When they first show I already said this to you,
But when they first showed the picture of the hikers,
one of the hikers had pink hair, and it's like,
we are totally going to see a mashed up substance
like figure, very substance like hair.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
And guess what we did.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, And now Alison Brie who goes to see Jamie,
she suspiciously goes into his house and sees a videotape
on a VHS showing that Jamie and his partner were
members of a cult that existed and used that water
to like celebrate unions like marriages, and when they drink

(46:41):
the water, they start fusing together. And basically she finds
out that, like I said, Jamie is actually a morphed
version of two people together.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I thought that was so clever. Yes, then it also
like where the cave is is where they got married,
like the es, that's where the church was, so like
everything every thing was coming together because those bells, which
are everywhere in this movie are very very scene in
the scene.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, the bells signal it, and she recognizes that he
has a bell which is similar to the bell at
the cave that they found, and it's put it up
on our door. So anyway, he is trying to She's
freaking out, trying to get away, and he says, you
know you can't resist it. You gotta let, you know,
like like fuse with him and become one and stuff.
And she says, it'll be easier if you do this,

(47:26):
and he slashes her forearm because apparently if you cut
your forearms and like let him bleed together, it's easier.
But like, she didn't ask you for that, buddy, Like,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
I think she punched him or hit him or something.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
So as she was hitting him, like his face was
kind of changing into the other guy and then back
to his own.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Face was changed.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Oh my god, I didn't even notice that. I know,
I would love to watch again. So she runs back
to how she's bleeding. He Dave Franco is completely horrified
by this couple. They get to the front of the
front of house and they're like, stay away, we should
be too close. We shouldn't be too close, and then
Dave Frank goes like, I figured out the only way
for this to work, and he gets a knife up

(48:07):
like he's gonna kill himself. He's like, that way you
can live and you won't have to morph with me,
and she's like, no, don't do that. And then she
shows him she has been bleeding so much that she's
almost lost consciousness and he goes to hold her and
you think she's gonna die instead, and he's definitely.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
I mean, obviously this movie can go two ways.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, which one was like okay, Like I was like.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
You want to happen or what were you thinking?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I was accepting that she was gonna die in his arms,
and I was like, okay, well that's a kind of
a bleak ending. But I was like, I'm okay with
this because it's kind of a it's a happy sad ending.
I then I but then obviously we know what happens
to stop the bleeding.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Oh well, before we get there real quick.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I actually thought it was gonna end with him killing
himself for her as even more a showing of his
devotion to her, and that literally like the I die
for you, Well.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
They both were saying I'd die for you, so of
course that just makes them love each other.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, exactly, And so the thing is is that. Then
Alison Brie wakes up, she's fine, and she's like, like,
what the fuck? And he said, I had to do
it to stop the bleeding, and his whole arm is
fused with her arm, and finally she just relents and
they decide they're gonna let this happen. But before they do,
they decide to put on her favorite record, Spice Girls,

(49:24):
and the song they play is to Become. No, it's
when to becomes one.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
I thought that the title is called to become one.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
To become one, not to become What the fuck are
you talking about?

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Become one? There's a big thing in there. You gotta
get that one.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
To become to become So everyone knows that song. It
was a popular slow Spice Girls song, and it's too
funny because again the audience at this point is laughing,
but we're laughing with it. And they start taking their
clothes off and dance sing really close, and as they're dancing,
they're slowly like fusing, fusing to the point where their

(50:06):
eyes start fusing. The game.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
It was to Become One by Spice Girls, which is
hilarious because they're slow dancing to this song, and they've
accepted it. They love each other. They're just like, let's
just let it happen. And so we think, you think, okay,
it's gonna end there, but we have one final scene
because Alison Brie had mentioned that her parents are coming
over that next day.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
They kept they kept talking about this. I was like, well,
how are they gonna explain any of this?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
And I was like, please let us see the morphed
Alison breed Dave Franco, Please let us see, And boy,
do you get the scene before they do that.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
When they pull up, you see like a table, but
it's only has three settings, so it's like.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Okay, uh, yeah, where's the fourth.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, well it's the parents and the morphed the person, right,
and they have a bell up on their house now,
which so they've accepted it. They've now parted as cold
and did. So the parents go knock the door. They're
waiting for the answer, and the door opens and you see,
just for a second, a like androgynous amorphous version of

(51:07):
Alison Brie and Dave Franco. It's like hair tere not
quite all the.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Way, kind of a men's hairstyle, but more of a
woman's it's like a long men's hairstyle.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
It has like Alison Bree's face, but Dave Franco's like
eyebrows and like and the person just says hey and
then it goes to credit.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, I loved it. I thought it was such a clever,
awesome and I love it.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I turned it to him and we were like kind
of laughing.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
But again, it was the thing I read about this
movie is a director knows that people are going to
be like squirming and laughing and screaming all in one movie.
And I was doing all of those. I wasn't screaming,
but there were jump scaarstead that surprised me. But I
don't scream out jump.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I can't even remember.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I think I was just a little uncomfortable, but I mean,
I'm when am I not? But no, I loved the
ending and I love that they played it one hundred
and straight, one hundred percent straight.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, I want to and I really want to talk
about what, like you thought this like Menford, because for me,
I'll go first with like this movie. I mean, look again,
it's it's pretty obvious that this isn't just about Yes,
they had the supernatural element to it, and obviously that
represented them merging and becoming one, but there were so
many other things at play in this story, and it's

(52:24):
about relationships, long term relationships, how sometimes people can grow
too comfortable, sometimes people grow resentful, and sometimes there's just
that off and on like push and pull between people,
and sometimes you feel like you just can't exist without
someone else. So it's like all these feelings are part
of relationships, and in their relationship, it's almost like they

(52:44):
had grown to a place where they couldn't exist without
the other one and they kept trying to but they
both knew they couldn't. And I feel like the whole
fusing element was like a metaphor for them kind of
losing themselves and each other in a way. And a
lot of relationships people do do that, Like sometimes they
change completely, No.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Absolutely, And I think like because they were fighting so much,
I think sometimes after you're done fighting, it kind of
strengthens the relationship.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yah. But I mean I'm not saying like, if you
hit the other person to become certed, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
No, not physical, but yeah, yes, Like I mean discussions
and heated discussions or emotional discussions usually grow from them.
But like I just felt like it was so clever,
because again, anyone who's been in any sort of relationship
for a long amount of time knows these feelings, but
also knows what it feels like to think like, oh
my god, like I'm so bored without my partner, or

(53:37):
oh my god, I don't want my partner to leave
because I'm so lonely, yeah, or like.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
You don't want to just stay in a relationship just
for the sake of staying in a relationship. But then
I think sometimes when people break up, you crave that
normalcy you once had. Yeah, Oh you are like, oh
my gosh, I just want to be comfortable, and the
only way I know how is to get back with
the person I was just with.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
But you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Well yeah, I mean that's for people that don't belong together,
But I'm thinking for people that do make relationships work,
you still have those feelings of like, oh my god,
I can't be without my partner, or oh my god,
I miss them so much. What you know, I want
them to be here, And then you stop yourself and
you think, wait, wait, I am my own person. I
should be able to exist with that. But so you

(54:18):
say there is.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
A point I think when relationships that you're like, oh, okay,
like I have got to go grocery shopping by myself,
Like you have to learn how to do everything by yourself.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Again, every time, every time I talk about a relationship,
you go back to people breaking up because I know
you're going by personal experience.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
I can only go on what I know, of.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Course, of course, but you guys were together for a
while before you were together.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
It's just funny.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
But like, yes, everyone will get out of this movie
what I think what like works for them their personal experience.
So you're looking at it from like when you split
from someone, like do you crave them? Wanting them back?

Speaker 3 (54:54):
So I want to get together with that?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah, And I'm looking at it from being currently in
a relationship like I do. You have times when I'm like,
oh my god, like Jacob's gonna be away for a day,
what am I gonna do?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
And then I'm just like, oh, I know that's when
you call me.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
I call you anyway, Okay, No, but it is weird
and you get these feelings like you your life has
merged so much with this person that like it almost
feels like you're becoming two are becoming one. So it
was just very clever. But I do like it. This
is what I wanted to say. I really like that
this movie wasn't just a metaphorm. What I mean by that, Yeah,

(55:30):
like they didn't cop back, like like they still had
the supernatural element and something was causing the fusion.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Because if the whole movie was in.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Their heads and really it was just codependency, but they
weren't actually merging, I would have been really let down.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I would have been pissed.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yes, And another thing, I'm actually really really really surprised
Hollywood has not done this movie earlier.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
You know, I mean it's funny. Obviously we've seen The.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Fly in nineteen eighty six when like, you know, he
merges into a fly. Like I was like, I cannot
believe we haven't done two people just merge into each other,
or maybe it has been done and we just don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I mean, there's been countless relate I mean movies related
to toxic relationships and fatal attractions and people saying like
I can't live without you or killing people like if
I can't have you, I can't you, no one can.
But never have there been this sort of body hard
or horror related to people actually merging together. And that's
why it's so genius. It's like taking an aspect of
of of what you think could happen a relationship and

(56:26):
physically making it happen.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
So mineus the relationship aspect of it. The one film
that I can kind of think of is Leviathan, Like.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Remember the underwater movie.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, because remember they all all the people clump together
and make a creature.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, But that is the more sci fi aspect of it,
Like the thing like like I totally get what you're saying.
You're right, like the merging party.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Like I'm usually thinking about merging, I'm not thinking about relationship, but.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
This movie it's so it's like you can't take it
without the relationship because the relationship is the movie. Like
the relationship so the foundation. But I think we both
are on the same page. It was just so clever,
so well done, so well acted, so well written, and
just really really recommend it. And it was really good
at having actual scary elements, like the supernatural elements were

(57:12):
kind of fucking scary. Some of the dream sequences and
when they were having seizures were scary.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Like watching it with an audience because it's it's very
cringey and it's an uncomfortable cringe.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
It's like but not cringe, like ew, that's that's ridiculous cringe.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, like it's it's it's the kind of film you
want to show your friends and be like, ew, isn't
this uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
It had elements of like the substance, little elements of
the substance, and it's obviously a body horror movie, but
it's not just body horror. And obviously when you're seeing
the actual parts of their bodies merging, you can tell
there's some cgi involved.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I believe everything.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
But like again, it wasn't so over the top that
it was cartoonish. It was grounded enough that it was
like I can believe this, and I, you know, they're
dancing to spice girls. What else do I want write?

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Nothing? Right?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah, So I was just yep, I was very, I
don't want to say, pleasantly surprised because I knew this
movie was rated high, but I didn't know what I
was gonna think of it.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Like, you know, I know that like Dave and Brie,
I know that they're like very very like intellectual people,
So I know they're not just gonna do some dumb movie.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
And I also remember the movie.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
That The Rental is So too, So both of these
films I highly recommend.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah, and the Thing is again, like you said, it
really showed that these actors who I know, Dave Franco
has been primarily in comedy, but Alison Brie, has she
been more in comedy or I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I mean, was she in The Rental? I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, she was, so I mean, they're just they're just
solidifying themselves as like true actors and not just like
jokey actors.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
I hope this movie becomes a class like.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I hope it doesn't just fade away, because I really
thought it had some good stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Me too, And and you know, I I think that
again because it's been received one. I think this is
one of those movies whereas some of the others we've
previously reviewed over the last few weeks not so much.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
But this one is.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
One where word of mouth is going to really help
it because, like we're going to tell people, people are
telling people, and this should intrigue people. People people people
are people, so why should it be people?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
No, But like the Thing is Is that truly? Don't
you feel like this is a word of mouth movie
that's gonna really work for it?

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Yes, it's like ghost. What's that a word of mouth movie?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Because ghosts Ghost stayed around for the entire summer for
word of mouth.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Remember it was on the top ten for like months.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
When what Your Ghost come out in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety? Wow,
I mean I you remember I saw it in the theater.
I was a kid, but like I saw it in
the theater.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Remember when Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore were doing the pottery.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
What if they started emerging?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
They were really merging?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
So this together was actually ghost originally Ghost Together?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Ghost Together.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Okay, I think before we leave everyone, I think we
should merge, Tim, Tim. If you and I merged, would
our name be tmatt or madam?

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
It'd be Tammy? Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
The funny thing is, I was thinking about this. If
you and I became one person world, we'd be constantly annoying.
We would be so annoying, but we would be constantly
a conflict because the part of me would be wanting
to cuss and you'd be not wanting to cuss. And
I'd be wanting to be obscene, and you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
You'd want to be loud.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I do have a booming voice, but I love naps,
so we could probably just nap the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Tammy. That'll be our name?

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Everybody, Hey, Tam or Tomatt tell us? Tell us in
the comments, what's our name? As a merged together podcast
one host? Okay, let us know. Hope you've enjoyed this,
Go see together if you haven't already, and check out
our other YouTube content, our patre and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
We'll talk about it together.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
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