Ep 271: Interview w/Linnea Quigley from "The Return of the Living Dead," "Night of the Demons," and many more

If anyone deserves the title of “Scream Queen,” it’s Linnea Quigley. Having starred in over 135 films (most of which are horror), she’s got a résumé stacked with countless fan favorites. Tune in to hear all about filming that iconic deer antler impalement in “Silent Night, Deadly Night” (1984), dancing nude in a graveyard in “The Return of the Living Dead” (and what happened to its proposed 2025 sequel, “Trash’s Revenge”), and of course, her famous lipstick scene in “Night of the Demons” (1988).

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, Welcome to Happy Horror Time. My name is Tim Murdoch.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
And my name is Matt Emmert. Now today's special guest
is True Horror Royalty. She has been called America's scream Queen,
Queen of the Bees, and even the Madonna of movie Mayhem.
She has starred in over one hundred and thirty five movies,
most of which are horror, including so many notable eighties
flicks like the Return of the Living Dead, Night of

(00:34):
the Demon, Silent Night, Deadly Night, Graduation Day, and Sorority
Babes in the Slimeball Bullerama. Not to mention, she's written
multiple books about her career, including a self titled bio
and Chainsaw Book and I'm screaming as fast as I
can my life in Bee Movies. It is such an
honor to welcome to the podcast. LENEA Quigley.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hill, Yo, buy, I'm doing great now that you guys
are here.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh well, thank you, we are. So we've been looking
forward to this and you know, taking it back to
the very beginning. I read that you were born in
Iowa and we're like a pretty shy kid. So when
you were a kid, did you do any sort of
performing or were you too shy to give it a
try back then?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Oh no, I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
If they like call on me, I would like turn
red and just like be like, oh my god, you
know people are looking at me. It was really embarrassing.
We mind, there's some barking here.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, we love Doc. We know you're an animal lover.
No worries. So you mean oh yeah, yes. Oh so
so as a kid, you just you didn't partake in
theater or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh no, no, I wish I hated that part because
I was just so shy. I still am shy. Like
I missed meeting on George Romero because I was too
scared to go up to him.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
And when you were younger, were horror films on your radar?
Did any have a big impact on you?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, My girlfriend and I would just like watch them
Saturday Nights, the Creature features and I loved like Murdering
the Room More and Wax Museum and House, you know,
just all those films and Alfred Hitchcock.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh those are some good bigs. And I like that
because those are some like obscure, Like that is a
true horror fan that you pick those movies. Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I loved those they had such a ambiance.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, Yeah, no, definitely, you know. I also read
that you moved to Los Angeles in the late seventies
and were working at a health spa when you were
first encouraged to give modeling an extra work a try.
So can you take us through like how that all happened?
Like did you just go and jump and get headshots
and jump right in or how did that all get started?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Oh? No, No, I came out at sixteen with my parents.
My dad took over the chiropractic college out in Los Angeles, LACC,
and I got a job at Jack Lilane's hilt Swell
and these girls there were you know, models and actresses

(03:19):
you know as they say. And I was just like
intrigued by that, and it ended up that I just
kind of followed them to SAT one day and I
got to be a stand in and.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Jack Palance wanted to like take me out.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
He was there on set and he was going to
take I told him, I go, oh, my car is
in Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I I you know, I have to go get it.
The lot will close, and.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
He said, oh, I'll get a helicopter and we'll go
there and get your car and then go out.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
And I was just like I got out of there
so fast.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Wait, you're talking like a pat Of Award winner from
City Slickers Jack Plants.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh wowow so he.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Was essentially hitting on you.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yes, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Can you imagine being able to just pull out a
line like, hey, let me get my helicopter and take
you back.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's not in my back pocket.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I know. It's like I you know, I didn't call
him on it. I thought, well, maybe he does have
a helicopter.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I want to know how he was thinking he would
maneuver landing in a parking lot.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, on Hollywood Boulevard. I mean, I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I'm so glad you're saying, because you know, helicopters are
so dangerous.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, I know it. Oh and at the.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Time, you were learning guitar and auditioning for bands. Can
you tell us about that?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (04:47):
That was that was fun.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I like I took everything I was afraid of doing,
like singing and playing guitar and everything, you know, and like,
just like one delight, get rid of that fear, and
I like would audition for bands and I love punk
bands and I was in like quite a few bands

(05:11):
a short time. I was even in one that rehearsed in,
Nikki Styx from Motley Cruz House. His girlfriend was a
drummer and I rehearsed there and he cut my hair once.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
And so were you a singer guitarist? What was your
role in the band?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I was the singer guitarist writer.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Wow, that is so cool. And I know you've been
in multiple bands throughout your career, right, Yes.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
The main one though.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Is the Skirts. Oh that's the one we've I've been
in for many years. And it looks like they're going
to put out the music finally because I found I
found the tapes finally.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Are we talking cassette tapes or are we like are
we talking about.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yes, I got them from the masters, the cassette tapes,
because they won't give me my masters. They they say, oh,
we can't find them, you know and all that, but
I know they have them.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh wow, Yeah, you got to get your hands on that.
Do you know? Like vintage, especially when it comes to
music like is so popular nowadays. My boyfriend and I
now collect vinyls and which is just so funny because
you know the way technology goes, you progress, progress, progress,
and then people miss the old stuff and want to
go back to that. You know.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, you're right, they do, they do. So I know
the old stuff from what I've heard. I don't like
the music like around the Brande and.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
All those people. It's like, it sounds sounds old to me.
That makes sense, Yeah, it reminds me of you know,
just somebody singing and everything's corrected in the mix, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So okay, So we're going to try and go through
your illustrious career in chronological order and cover some of
your most popular films, starting with your first big slasher,
nineteen eighty one's Graduation Day. Now, I heard you mention
that you were cast as Dolores after the original actress
refused to do nudity, which brings me to a bigger question. So,

(07:20):
you know, you've always been very open to doing nudity
throughout your career, which I totally respect. So I was
just wondering, have you just always been very comfortable in
your own skin or how did your feelings on doing
nudity come about?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well, I was still shy about that. My dad was
a doctor, So I you know, I grew up, you know,
not being like, oh the body is horrible, and you know,
being nude, and you know, not in a like a
religious type thing that's bad, you know, type of household.

(07:54):
But it was scary to like expose my body because
you know, of course, like every woman, Oh my god,
I'm fat, I'm.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
I have cellulite.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I uh, you know, and that people would look at
that or something, and it was still scary to do
because it was so browned upon.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Then yeah, no, I can imagine. I mean, in graduation
Day you also have the best chase scene, hands down,
where you're running through the woods for what seems like
forever before you ultimately meet your demise. What was it
like filming that huge chase scene in graduation day?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Oh my gosh, Well, I learned an important lesson, don't
eat lunch before you have a running scene from like,
you know, The Killer. I actually threw up after I
got through running and you know, stumbling and of course
falling and like every woman did back then.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
And we read that Nana White was also on set
and in graduation day. What was it like talking with her?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Was she she was just kind of polite and I
remember she had a newspaper thing. She like, you know,
they would have the girls that weren't mud wrestlers, you know,
that were pretty and everything, you know, posing for ads,
like you know so and So's mud wrestling place, and

(09:20):
she was one of the girls.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
So I thought that was funny.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Oh, it's so funny to look back on, Like so
many people who have gone into different sorts of careers
got their start in horror. So it's so interesting to
see someone like Vana White in graduation day, you know.
And going back to Lara, what you said about your
chase scene and oh my god, So then how long
did it take to film that entire chase scene? I

(09:44):
mean it sounds like you probably how long were you
running back and forth and all of that.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh my gosh, it seemed like a lot, and it
was like chilly, and and you know, the ground wasn't
really good.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I think it was about.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
An hour and a half at night. Luckily it was
at night so it wasn't too hot.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's so true. I mean, my gosh, the valley I'm dying.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I'm just thinking, like I can't even imagine like running
and you're running like full speed, so I can totally
imagine if you ate beforehand that I.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Know that was a horrible mistake.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's good. I should write an acting book, you know,
do not eat before a killer scene.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know what, It's totally true because I think I'm
thinking that maybe actors think like, oh, I'll just get
this in one take. I'm just running, and then it's
like nope.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So also in nineteen eighty four, you were in the
holiday slasher which we love, Silent Night, Deadly Night, where
you play babysitter Denise, and you have one of the
most memorable debts in the movie getting impaled on deer antlers.
So how was that whole debt scene in that effect filmed.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh? What they did was they they put like the
deer up there, and then they they had the Santa
Claus billy you know, lift me up, you know, like
a bunch of times and like you know from ribs.
And I was so sore from that the next day.

(11:13):
And then they had me like straddling. After they got
me up there, I liken it to a bicycle seat.
I was straddling, and then they glued on these antlers
to my stomach. But they kept going like that every
time I was breathing, so they're like, don't breathe, and
I'm like, I have to breathe, you know, sometime.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
And it was cold because it was winter in Utah.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
It was cold up there, so I'm like, don't shake,
don't breathe.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You know, was the guy playing the Santa Claus Billy
was he the one actually lifting you up?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah? No, no, no, no, they had a stunt guy.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay, I was going to say, they have a.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Stunt person for me. They had a stunt guy for
the the guy lifting me.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
You should have gotten stunt pay for doing that.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Then, you know what, I know it. I didn't know
about all that stuff, but yeah, I should have.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
It is funny because we talk to people from horror
movies all the time, and like we even learned that,
like even running can be considered a stunt, Like any
sort of movement in these movies can be considered a stunt.
So I would say being shoved onto antlers is definitely stunt.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
You're right, and having to balance up there and then
all the times I had to like do a fake fall.
But you know, it's like back then, you were just
glad to get a film. You didn't want to make
any waves.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
You know, I would probably do that. I'd probably be
a people pleaser like that myself. I'd be like, what
do you want me to do? It was great.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I won't breathe whatever you need.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh my god, I've been in perilous situations sometimes, I
tell you.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I can't even imagine. You know. We watched on the
Blu Ray interview you mentioned that you haven't seen the
actor who played your boyfriend in the movie, Leo Ghetter,
since filming. Is that still true? Has he never appeared
at a convention?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
No? I don't know why. Maybe he wants to like
not be associated with horror. I don't know, but I've
never seen him since then.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I would walk around like everyone like, hey, I'm in
Silent like Deadley Night nineteen eighty four. Like I would
wear it as a badge of honor.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I know it. But some people are just like, oh horror,
you know, Oh my, he's probably doing musical theater or something,
you know.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
And because Robert Brian Wilson, who played Billy, he I
think for a while he was like not embracing the movie.
But now he's like at every convention for it.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
He is and he's a really cool guy.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
So you do see him on the convention circuit sometimes.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Oh that's great, So I do.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I mean, I'm not gonna lie. What a handsome guy, Oh.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
My gosh, Yes, he is very handsome. It's I think
the girls all had a crush on him.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
We always talk about it's tough when you cast a
really cute guy in the role of a killer, because
like you're afraid of them, but also they're cute.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, yeah, that makes it hard.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah. What do you think of the new Silent Night
Daily Night reboot? Did they ask you for to be
in it or any like, would you do a cameo if.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
They asked, Oh, yeah, that would be fun to do
a cameo.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
It would be really fun.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
So you've heard about it's supposed to come out in December.
I don't know if they've already filmed. They're filming, but
it's a reboot and they yeah, they cast the role
of Billy. It's Rohan Campbell, who was in Halloween Ends.
But I was just thinking, oh, it would be so
great to like if you had a cameo in this
reboot or something. But yeah, you know, it's supposed to

(14:45):
come out at the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, I could be working in a taxidermy place or something.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
That would be so funny, and you had to happen
to have like a set of deer antlers on the
back of the wall.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yes, oh god, Bill comes in and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Oh, yeah, that would be funny.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I love that it'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
So I'm also in nineteen eighty four, you appeared in
Savage Streets, where you played Heather, the deaf and mute
sister of Linda Blair, who is brutally beaten and raped
by a group of gang members. Now, this role was
very different from many of the characters you've played throughout
your career, and I was just wondering, how did you
approach playing a character like that who had to go

(15:26):
through something so traumatic on screen?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Oh boy, I guess you know.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
It's like the guys didn't break character, so it was
kind of easy to like be kind of freaked out
by them.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
And it was hard because the hardest part.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Was, I remember, you know, when if that happened, you'd
be screaming and making noises, and not making a noise
was really hard to.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Not do, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, So I've all had to be facial expressions and
body expression and everything.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I am so glad that Linda Blair killed them. Yeah,
it makes it seem What was it like working with her?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I was terrified.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm like, oh my god, it's Linda Blair. And I
was like, you know, kind of an outcast because I
was like in this dress and all proper and innocent,
and the other girls had these cool outfits, so I
kind of felt like, oh, I don't belong in that group.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
And Danny Steinman, what was he like as a director?

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I liked him a lot.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
He was really good, so he was good with all
of like, because it is it is some really heavy
material in this movie, you know, I mean it is
it's a revenge story, but there's also heavy material. And
by the way, you're so good in that role, because
like you're just so sweet and innocent and everyone loves you,
so it makes it even more heartbreaking what happens to

(16:55):
your character. But I can't even imagine how difficult playing
like you said, you're mute and deaf and having to
go through something like that. It's like so many levels
of acting.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, it definitely was, and Danny wanted more he wanted,
like mucus coming out my nose and blood running down
my leg. And I said, I think this is brutal enough.
I don't think you have to add that stuff on there.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And he listened, Yeah, oh good, good, Yeah, you're right,
it's definitely brutal enough. So one year later, moving on
to what maybe your most celebrated role in the horror genre,
playing Trash, the punk with the bright red hair in
nineteen eighty five's The Return of the Living Dead. So
how did you get involved with this project? Because I

(17:43):
read something on IMDb trivia that your co star Jule
Shepherd had recommended you for the role. Is that true
or how did you get involved?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Now, the casting director had cast me in Silent Night,
Deadly Night, and she remember me and she brought me in.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh okay, So then you read and did you just
read Trash or any other characters?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
No, I just read for Trash because they had already
cast everyone. From what I heard they told me that
was they had cast a girl for Trash.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
And then.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Like five months went by or something like that, and
they didn't have the money, and all of a sudden
she was pregnant. The girl that was cast and so
they had to recast it, so everybody else was cast
and I had to audition a couple times.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Oh wow, do you remember, just off hand what you
like your audition scene or what you did. I'm just
wanting like, did they make you do the dance? Oh
you do? What was your audition scene?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
My audition scene was do you ever fantasize? You know,
and that whole thing and then dancing. So I was
like a nervous wreck. I'm like, I want to get this,
you know.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh God? That so I know because she it's such
a morbid character because she like fantasizes about being I think,
what like eaten alive?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Well, see yeah she says that, and then it.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Happened, and then it happens, I know, by a bunch
of old men.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I think she says, yes, yes, be careful what you
put out to the universe, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So there was million dollars.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah I know, I know. Yeah. So The Return to
Living Dead was directed by Dan O'Bannon, who famously wrote
the original Alien Now. In the making of documentary for
this film, a lot of people, it sounded like, felt
that Dan was a pretty intense director. What was your experience,
like working with.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Him, he was intense. He was under a lot of
prushu or two that could have had something to do
with it because they the budget wasn't very big and
they needed to bring it in and and he he.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Was a perfectionist. He wanted everything perfect.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
You know, when I was doing the the do of
her fantasized scene, he was like placing the mushrooms by
my legs in certain spots.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I mean he was just like, you know, really perfectionist.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
And is this true that Legs was the original name
of your character? And when was it changed?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
It was changed like at the last minute.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, Trash is memorable, but I know why, Yeah,
why did they change from Legs to Trash?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I don't know. I'm not sure to tell you the truth.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's so like Legs too.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
And then I'm like Trash Like that sounds weird.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh I like Trash, Like I like Trash.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I think it's so I do now I love it now?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, I mean it fits like the characters kind of
vibe with kind of being deadpan and stuff. But so
does Legs because of the dancing.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
So yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Maybe I had legs, trash leg trash legs, trash leg
leggy leggy trash Yeah. So, speaking of dancing, one of
the most iconic parts of this film is your big
nude dance scene on top of the tomb in the graveyard.
So what was it like filming the scene? Like, was
it choreographed? Did you have to do a ton of takes?
Was it weird dancing naked in front of the rest

(21:15):
of the cast? Tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Okay, it was weird dancing naked in front of the
cast up on a tombstone. It was I just choreographed
it myself. I just went with what the music was,
which was Let's see Nasty Girl. They were playing Nasty
Girl by Vanity. They hadn't secured Stacey Q's music yet,

(21:44):
so I was dancing. It was a totally different song,
but it worked for some reason.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
I don't know how they get that to work.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
But it was embarrassing, but it was fun too, And
it wasn't raining. I was like, I loved that because
the rain was so cold and miserable.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, I get anytime I see a movie with rain
in it, I always feel for like the people in
the movie, the crew, like everyone I was like, this
does not look like fun. But as a viewer, it's
it's you know, it's entertaining, yes, and it's miserable.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
It's miserable because you have.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
These rain machines and it's cold water, just you know,
like taking a cold shower at night.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
No, rain in movies is always like a torrential rainfall.
It's never like a light drizzle. It's always the heaviest
rain possible.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
No good on screen with like the lightning and the music.
It just really, you know, captures a moment.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
It does. It does.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I can't believe that. You so, your whole scene you
were dancing to a different song and then they just
put in the new song and it just worked.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
It did. I don't know how they did.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
They do that a lot, like when I was doing
extra work when I first started, they would have you
know something, everybody in the club is dancing too, and
then you see the movie and it's a totally different song.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
If you I mean, I don't know if you watch Housewives.
I'm a big Housewives fan. Like when I were hearing
oh it's kind of addicting, but whenever the ladies on
the step were dancing they're not dancing to what we're
hearing because they can't get their rights to anything, so
they're just like dancing to like elevator music.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Oh that's interesting. I did not know that. I'm gonna
have to watch one of those.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I recommend Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Okay, Beverly Hills Housewives.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Okay, yeah, so okay, poor Trash like she foresaw, gets
overtaken by a pack of zombies after running through a
bunch of muddy puddles in the rain, and later turns
into a zombie herself. So I think you mentioned the rain,
But how tough was it to film all of those
running scenes through muddy, wet conditions and puddles.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
It was And I was like barefoot too, so I'm
like going on rocks and and everything, and like when
I lead the zombies to get the cops, you know,
it was all like a long run with rocks and
stuff and slippery and the mud, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I can't believe did you get sick at all? Because
like in those I did, Oh you.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Did, I got struck throat?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh my gosh, I'm just guessing like the whole cast
probably got pneumonia.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I know, I don't know if anybody else got sick
or not, that's another good question, but I definitely did.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I mean, I'm not shocked, Like it's like the whole
thing you're running through freezing or rain, mud, everything and naked.
I mean it's like the notion per.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
And I'm buried in mud, which was really creepy, and
and I come out of the mud and you know, oh,
that was like the hardest shot to do.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Do you remember, like how many nights you were filming
in those conditions, because it's a good portion of the movie,
or just around like weeks or.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
It was weeks, Yes, it was weeks.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I bet those showers at the end of the day
were just like, oh my gosh, Calgon, take me away.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh well, they when I turned you know, I'm white,
and they gave me this stuff that doesn't come off,
and right, so in the shower wouldn't come off. So
I would go home all painted white at like six
in the morning, driving home and you know, try to
get in the shower and get it off and it

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wouldn't come off.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
So like would you come the next day and be like, hey,
this is what's left.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
The Yeah, exactly. So they wouldn't have much more to do.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh paint me.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, I know, so it can make it even harder
to get off. Why yes. So you know this year
twenty twenty five is the fortieth anniversary of the Return
of the Living Dead, and we've heard you talk about
a sequel that you were developing called Trash's Revenge that
stars yourself and many cast members from the original film.
Can you tell us about that, like, like, what's it about?

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What's going on with it?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I pulled out of it because they were starting to
want to do more AI and stuff like that, and
I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Oh no, I wanted it.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I didn't want to be in something that wasn't you know,
practical effects mainly and and just you know, so I
pulled out of it.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh no, wait, So then I take it it's not
going to be Trash's Revenge because you can't have trash
Is Revenge without Trash, right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
They might AI me, you know, and then it's suit time.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well that.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Is so disappointing to hear, like as this is the
original movie, Like when you had first I think it
was like a number of months ago announced it. It
was so easing to think of you, and you had
mentioned a bunch of the original cast members returning. I
can't believe why they would want to choose AI over
like the real the cast members.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I guess to say money maybe I mean Tom and
Beverly and Phil and Miguel are doing it. I but
you know, I just like the integrity for me was like,
I just I don't want to be in a sequel
type thing where.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
It like is not good.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, not saying that it's not going to be good,
but you know, to me, AI is not good.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, well it's not going to be the same without
you in it. I can definitely say that. Thank you well.
Skipping forward a few years to nineteen eighty eight, you
played Susanne in Knight of the Demons, the party girl
who's obsessed with makeup and just wants to look good
for the boys, and you got the.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Best looking boy, Jay Lance Venton. I'm very jealous, very jealous.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
What's the audition process like for this film?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I didn't have the audition. It was great, and I
almost didn't go.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
In to talk to the director because I was so
sick of the rejection. From going to an audition and
then you're too young, you're.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Too old, you're too this, you're too.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
That, you know, or you know, it's it's the director's
girlfriend that's going to get the part, you know. So
I like kept saying to my manager, I said no,
I'm not going to go in. I'm not going to
go in, and finally said no, they really really really
want to see you.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
They like your work.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
So I went in and they just said, Okay, you've
got it.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Congratulation.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
That's so awesome. No, but I mean that must have
been like great, like especially but that obviously it was
Kevin Tenney director, so obviously he knew, like you had
been in a number of films at that point, so
knew what you could do and like the character.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
What was it like at Hull House?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I had fun there.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It was like a big house, and everybody else said
it was haunted, but I've never seen a ghost, so
and I didn't see anything there.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
And were you there the day Rue McClanahan showed up.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
No, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Oh because Amelia I think her her aunt is Golden
Girl Rue McClanahan.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah, apparently she made a set visit. We talked
to Kathy Podwell and she mentioned it, and that's just
such a crazy appearance.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know, gay guys love the Golden Girls.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Oh, yes, I mean they're great, and I am. I
went to at her house a peta People for the
Ethical Treatment of Animals a party at Rue's house once,
so I met her then. But I could have been
in makeup or something when she showed up, you know,
since the makeup was like, you know, hours and hours
and hours.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I was just ask you, like, what was that makeup
and prosthetics, Like, I mean, how long did it take
to transform into a demon?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Like twelve hours? I hated it really horrible.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yes, I had, like I mean, you had the whole
gamut of you had like contact lenses, teeth and everything,
so like everything had to be applied.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
I take it off, Yes it did, and then painted.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
And you know they're perfectionists too, they were, and it
was like they would like, you know, paint and then
step back and go look and then paint, and you know,
it took forever.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I can't even imagine. But one of the most memorable
scenes in Night of the Demons is the infamous lipstick
scene where your character while possessed by a demon, ends
up sticking an entire lipstick into her own nipple. Now,
I gotta know what was your reaction when you first
heard or read that your character would be doing this.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I was really happy because I like when something odd
happens because people remember it, and I thought it was
like really creepy and cool.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
It is so creepy and cool is the best way
to because I've never seen anything like that in my life.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Of you, I watched it with my mom when I
was like ten. I was just like, what's happening?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah? I know, I bet, like do women have holes
in their nipples?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
So?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
How can you tell us how that effect was done?
Like how that they were able to make that happen. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
They they made a mold first of my breast and
then they strapped mine down after they made the mold,
and it was like a gelatine, so it was like
it moved, It wasn't you know, hard, and they had
to keep it refrigerated. And then they put it on
me and you know, strapped it on and then they

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cut a hole in the nipple and.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
I had to like kept the mark.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I just it is just such a fun story. It
is such a fun story.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
And I want to know what did they do with
that jello mold after filming was time?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh they couldn't. I guess it dissolves or something like
that unless his cap it refrigerated.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
You know, they didn't.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
They didn't know anybody would, you know, be like like
it or something like that.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
So there are enough Yeah, there are enough creepy people
on eBay that would probably pay thousands of dollars for
that mold.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Oh my god, how funny.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah they might, yes, never No, So we heard you
mentioned on a podcast that of all the directors you've
ever had, Kevin Tenney, who directed Night of the Demons,
was the easiest to work with. So what made Kevin
Tenny so easy going? Like how did he run things?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
He just he was just he wasn't he was like,
wasn't hard on people. He just like, you know, let
you do your own thing, or if it was off,
he'd say why don't you do this? Or you know
I kind of like when I act, I go form
like what the dialogue takes me. You know, I don't
like go, oh, this girl's going to be this and

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that and say this. You know, I just let the
dialogue because the dialogue was so weird, you know for my.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Character, don't look at me.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I love that one.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I love that one in that line such.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Great and I just love always the compact in hand,
oh Chad, like it is just great. And the and
the amazing ballerina costume. And in two thousand and nine,
they did a remake of Night of the Demons starring
Shannon Elizabeth, Monica, Keenan, Edward Furlong, and you have a cameo,
a quick scene with Trigger Treaters where you're wearing that

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same ballerina costume. So what was it like returning to
this movie to do the cameo and did you get
to have any input into what your character would be doing.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
No, I didn't. I thought it would be better if
it was boys coming up to the door and and
that I like bent over or something like that. And
then you know said, you know, said something like from
the movie.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, like I just want to look good for the
boys exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
That would have been more fun, it didn't, you know,
having the girls come up and then just like nothing
really you.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Know, Yeah, it's like it's a full easter eggs.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I love the original so much I couldn't really get
into the reboot, but I was still happy.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I never saw the reboot. They took it very far.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So they definitely took especially that lipstick scene, even further,
like they wanted to take it to like the next level.
But yeah, it was a shame because it's like, we
get this quick scene with you, and it's like I
wanted more, or like wanted Yeah, like it would have
been great to have something more related to your character
because your character had so many great lines and actions.

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But at least we got you for a second.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
And you know what, I never met the director really
because they were filming with a crying and I never
got to meet him.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
So I mean when they like hired you for the
cameo that you never talked with the director, Wow, that's
so bizarre. You would think weird.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I'm like, why isn't he talking to me or coming
up or anything?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's so weird?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Wow, Wow weird.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Well, you know, I'm also in nineteen eighty eight. Nineteen
eight was a big year for you. You start in the
horror comedy Soerriti Babes and the slimeball Bollerama best title
ever by the way, where a bunch of co eds
break into a bowling alley and release a creature called
the Imp who starts killing them off. Now I read
that director David Dakoto let you pick any character you

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wanted to play in the film. So what made you
choose Spider?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Oh my gosh, it was the best character. It's like tough.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
I didn't have any nude scenes. I got to the.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Guy at the end, uh got to fight.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
It was.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
It was just like a.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Dream role for me.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah. No, it totally is. Of all the characters, I
think that's and it's so funny because fighters not one
of the initial like this one of the sorority babes,
because you're already in the bolorama. But it is such
a great character to play.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
And when you were talking to him, what were you
actually talking to Nothing? No, that's good.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
That's weird. You know, it's like like, oh, look at
the floor there. And you know, David Dakota, I love.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I mean, I did a lot of films with him,
but you know we didn't. We just like kind of
winged it a little bit, but he trusted us. As
long as we got our lines right and the gist
of it.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
He was fine.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's so funny because in that movie, you know, it's
like this little creature that's talking to you, and like
everyone's just looking at something, but obviously knew that it
was added later. So you mean he would just say,
like look over there and pretend that you're reacting to something.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yes, which is just so weird.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
So funny like it is, but I mean, it's a
it's a crazy, kooky movie. And then your co star
from the movie, Brink Stevens, ended up directing a sequel
in twenty twenty two, and both she and Michelle Bauer returned.
Was there any reason you didn't return for this sequel?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
The same reason that I kind of like backed out
of Trash's Revenge. I didn't want to do something that
wasn't going to be up to par with the original,
and I didn't think there was going to be anything
up to par with the original, so I didn't want
to do it.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
You know, I haven't seen the sequel, have.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
No idea that, but I haven't either.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, I can't imagine it is at the same caliber
as the original because the original was so like different
for its time and all of that. But yeah, it's
weird because like we love when franchises do reboots, but
you're right that it is kind of defeating if it's
not going to be on par with the original.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Films exactly, Like the first two Jaws were really good
and then it got like ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You know, I totally agree.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yes, actually if you I mean, obviously Ruyschnider is in
one and too, so it almost feels like one big film.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It really does. Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah, you get them like confused a little bit sometimes.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
So Also in nineteen eighty eight, you played one of
the souls that pops out of Freddy Krueger's body at
the end of a night Brown Elms before the Dreammaster. Now,
how did this opportunity come your way and what was
it like filming that chaotic scene.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Well, my.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Husband to be, Steve Johnson, who did the effects in
Night of the Demons, was doing the effects in that one,
and so he mentioned me, and I said, yeah, I
want to do it because I like the Freddy movies.
I think they're really clever, and so that's how I
became one of the souls of Freddy's chest.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That is so cool. And then I heard you mention
that your ex husband, Steve Johnson proposed to you after
filming that scene a Nightmare four. Can you tell us
that story, like, how did that all go down?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Well, he had the guy that I had picked a
ring and he had the guy come out and he
proposed to me after I did my little thing with
the with the soul in the chest on set, so
I thought that was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
So everyone like the crew, cast and crew were all
there and witnessed it.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, after he closed me off like with a garden hose.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I remember watching the making of and they had that scene,
and I remember you in the in the making of.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Didn't the whole thing fall over something?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, we all fell, and you know I didn't fall
like the poor lady that was working the head fell.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
A long way down.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
She'll go to the hospital.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
She had to go to the hospital.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
But she was okay, and she was like in her
seventies too.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Oh my goodness, Oh jeeze.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I know, I know all the mishaps of movie making
between that and getting strep throat running through Return of
the Living Dead, I know, yes, And don't breathe while
you're pretending to be dead.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yes, exactly, and no stump.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Pey, Yeah, no, Stumpy exactly. Okay, So Lenaa, we want
to play a quick little game with you right now
where we'll ask you some rapid fire questions and you
simply need to answer with the name of the horror
movie that we were that we discussed it answers the
question best. Don't worry, it's not trivia nothing like that
to get your opinion on these films. So basically you

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can answer with either Graduation Day, Silent Night, Deadly Night,
Savage Streets, Return the Living Dead, Night of the Demons,
or Sororiti Babes. Okay, oh, okay, okay. Which of these
films have you seen the most times throughout your life?

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Returning the Living Dead?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Which do you think is the best overall horror film?

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Returning on the Living Dead, which had.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
The most drama on set while filming Nine of the Demons.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Which had the most behind the scenes romances.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Uh oh, Sorty Babes in the Slinball bowlorama.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Ooh like that it would bring up romance? Yeah, who
knew was? It was on dress involved and.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
He was trying to be you know, he was like
an adolescent, you know pretty much.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I think he was eighteen and he.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Just like all these girls around puberty, but no.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Which and this is a big one, which had the
character you enjoyed playing the most.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Sorty babes in the Slinboll Bullerama.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Oh, yes, Spider, which has the most cast members. You're
still in touch with today?

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Return of the Living Dead?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Well, and then which do you get asked about most
by fans?

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Return of the Living Dead?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
That makes sense? Yeah, you know. So you also had
the chance to work with the late Gunner Hanson in
nineteen eighty eight's Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers, which is ironic since
he played leather Face in the original Texas Chainsaw Masacre.
So what was Gunnar Hanson like to work with him?
What was it like getting the chainsaw him to death
in that film?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Oh? It was great because as a teenager, Texas Chainsaw
Masker was one of my favorites. You know.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
I was like, I loved that movie.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
It was just creepy and you know, realistic and everything,
and so I was terrified to work with him. I
went to set and I was terrified, but he was
so nice and I told him, I go, you should
do these shows. People would go nuts, and he said, no,
nobody's gonna remember me, and I'm like, yes they will.
So he started doing shows and everybody you know, came

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to him.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
So that was good.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh my god, that everyone talks about Texas Change Time
and everyone loves the villains, like all the actors who's
played Jason or Michael Myers or anything. Obviously Robert England
like they get the longest lines. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
They sure do, they sure do.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
And you know, he had no clue because he was
living in Maine writing books and poetry and things like that,
so he had no clue how popular he was.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I love that Leatherface was writing poetry stan Maine. He
and Stephen Kings in Maine, right him and Stephen k Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So another thing we wanted to know is, since you
were auditioning for so many films throughout the eighties, what
other stars would you like run into at auditions?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Oh geez, I didn't ever run into any star really
at an audition that I remember. I mean, it could
have been like they made it later, but you know,
I think I was so like nervous on the audition process.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
That I didn't even realize the other people in the room.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I was just wondering if, like the brat Pack, you know,
auditioned for horror movies in the eighties or any of
like those people.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Of all the death scenes you've ever done in any
horror film, which has been your absolute favorite.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I think the deer Antlers, I think that was really unique.
Or the possessed shower head going through my throat.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yes, we just watched they just watch witch Trap and
it's such a great death scene because I have never
seen a shower head. It like pierces your throat like
it was. It was crazy, Like, I guess we have
to ask about that. How do they do that effect?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Well, I got lucky. I was like, oh, no, another effects,
but they showed reacting and then after you know, like
the fact. But they had a fake head and neck
and they used that for like when it like punctures.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh wow, it's it's it's a good effect.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
It is and it's really again, another one of those
death scenes like the Antlers that I have not ever
I mean, of course shower death scenes are iconics and
psycho but I've never seen the shower head.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeh, no, that I were not expecting that. We're like, oh,
oh that's something we have not seen.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
No, I know you're like, oh, a shower, scenes going on,
and then.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I know exactly.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
So.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
You know, as we mentioned in the intro, you've already
written a few books about your career in horror. How
did you or what got you first interested in writing
about your career.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
I don't know. I just thought there was some interesting
stories from different sets I've been on and different people
i'd met, and that it would be fun and I
could you know, promote animal rights and you know, just
it was like a fun thing to do.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
No, I mean I think that's great. I think like
memoirs are the such fun books to read because you
get to hear about the experiences that you've never heard
about before in such detail. You know.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yes, and I'm doing another one up to date?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
What what other? Because we were going to ask if
there's any more books in your future, what is the
new book or what can you tell us about it?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Well, I'm going to be starting it really soon. I'm
trying to get some data, like you know, grandparents and
this and that, and then probably in two months I'm
going to really get down to it. But it is
like psychotherapy, like talking about yourself, like your memories. It's

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like it's kind of hard.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Oh I can imagine.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
It's like I can't even imagine. Well, I can't even
Like you have to sit down. You have to literally
like revisit those times to think about everything detail.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah. Sometimes like fine, yeah, like sometimes you're like, oh good,
I'm over that that hurdle. But and then you have
to revisit some drama.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I know, Oh my god, the audition days.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Oh it's awful.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I've had sometimes when I'm thinking back at certain times
in my life, like I can I get the anxiety
that I felt back in that time. It's really weird,
Like you think about how anxious you were at a
certain time, and like the anxiety feeling comes back. So
it's bizarre.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
They say that get like a certain sense like from
like from the past can trigger like a lot of
memories all at once.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yes, So what you got to do is get whatever
that mud in Return of the Living Dead smelled like
and just smell it and then start.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Writing it'll take me back, yes.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
You know. So, looking back on your entire incredible career
in horror so far, what what are you most proud of?
Is there like a moment, an experience, a film, or
just what what are you most proud of from this
incredible career you've had.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
That I that I faced my fears and you know,
did things. You know, I you know, it would have
been more comfortable not to do those things and then
just you know, either get married or be a spinster
or whatever and have a nice quiet life. But I'm

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most proud of that I face the fears.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, I got to go on the journey with you
and be entertained.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yes, I love that.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
And the idea that you did so many movies so quickly.
I mean, like especially at certain periods of your life,
like it felt like was it just non stop working
for you in those periods?

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Pretty much? Yeah, especially working with David Dakota, and you
know it was like he would put a movie out
like in three or four days.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
You know, we'd be like.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Filming for twelve hour days, which is normal, and you know,
have our lunch break and everything, and the movie would
be out.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
So I filmed a lot.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Then, Yeah, And what are you up to today? Like
what's day to day like for you?

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Well, I've got an animal sanctuary, so day to day
is like dealing with animals like dogs, cats, goats, it's
it's hard.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
It's very hard.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
And then I go to the shows and then I
have to have a house sitter, and then I worry
when I'm gone, and you know, working on movies. I
went to London and did one which was really fun,
The Witches of Sands, which will be out I think
next year.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Oh okay, because that's we also wanted to ask about
any new projects you can tell us about. So the
Witches of Sands is a new horror movie that you're in. Yes,
that's so cool and I love you said an animal sanctuary.
Does that mean are they all your animals or do
you like give them up for adoption or how does
that work?

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I have given them up for adoption, but some of
them are here to stay, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
That would be the hardest. I mean, like I can Yeah,
I know people do it, but me personally, I walk dogs,
so I get so connected.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
I know, I know. It's like like, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Can see the dogs that I adopted out, but then
when I see them, I'm like, oh, they don't think I,
you know, forgot them. But they have a great life,
you know, and they're living it, you know, so I
guess they're not upset.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Oh well, as long as you give them a great life,
a great family. How many dogs do you personally own?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Twelve?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
All different breeds or do you have like a certain
breed that you love the most? All different breeds that
we only.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Heard Doberman, Burmese, Mountain dog, Huskies, Australian Shepherds, Catalogs, MutS,
roddis God.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I feel bad forever thinking having one dog is a
lot of responsibilities.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
And we're not gonna yeah really, oh no, no, no
no no.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
And you said you also have cats and goats and
those types happens too.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yes, I have cats. I have five cats.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Wow. And I just rescued a kitten that was out
in the desert and she's like so coold. She's polydextrous,
which just means they have six six like a thumb, yeah,
instead of five fingers, they have six.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
And she's gray and she's just so cute.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Oh that's so great. And that's so great because so
many animals like that need homes, and especially when you
get home like yours, I can tell you're such an
animal lover that that's they're very lucky to have you.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
So we have one final question for you, LINEA, And
You've been great, so much fun going through your career
with you. And we asked this final question to all
of the people we interview. What is one thing that
you can tell us about your experience working on any
of the films that we discussed today that you've never
told any other interviewer, publication, convention, Q and A, or podcaster.

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Just one thing about working on any of these films
that you've never told in any other interview.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Oh boy, that's a hard one. Let's see.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Let me think of one good one that okay, that
I really kind of hated my character and neither of
the demons because she was so fussy and stuff like that,
and like I wanted to be the other character, Amelia's character.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Oh oh, so you wanted to be like the main the.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Black dress girl.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yeah, like the goth chick. I thought she was like
tougher and cooler. And then also the other one I
haven't told was Ginger Lynn and I on Vice Academy.
I did not like her because she was like on
drugs and late. She would be late to the set

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by hours, you know, and you know she had that mentality.
And then now we're really good friends. She's really cool.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's so funny. Do you guys ever talk about like
how you didn't like each other back then?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Yes? Yes, because she asked me, she goes, you didn't
like me, did you?

Speaker 4 (53:30):
And I go, no, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
You know, well you made us all away for two
three hours when you got to set, and you thought
you were like you know, because in the porn industry
she was, you know, regaled as like the top one
and got anything she wanted pretty much.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Oh wow, and she was dating Charlie Sheen at that.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I know. I was like, I was like, are we
going to talk?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah? She was dating Wait, she was dating Charlie Sheene
when you guys were working together her back then.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Yes, And she went to a bachelor party and had
girls that were like in the industry show up at
it and they did tons of drugs.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
She showed up the next day and she was a mess.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That makes production a lot longer. Did Charlie she never
accompany her to set when you were filming?

Speaker 4 (54:22):
No, he didn't.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
He didn't.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Well, oh, it's such an era that like the movies
last forever and like Matt and I love them.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And we've heard some crazy things from
people when asking this question, So thank you for looking back.
And yes, it is nice that you guys are friends
today and can look back on the past exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I know, because I hate I hate it when there's
animosity with people and you know you don't want to
like run into them, and you know it's like, now
we're good friends.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
She's a cool girl.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I have one.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
I love all the gate fans. They are the best,
I swear, And I have tons of gay friends. They're
like my buddies. You know, They're more loyal than anyone.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Oh, we love that. Well, the gays love you, I
can say, I'm speaking for.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
At That's that's like, that's another thing like that makes
me so happy.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I think conventions, I mean, I'm assuming you get a
lot of gay men coming up to.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
You, Yes I do, and some of them dressing like
trash or Suzanne, you know, and that is like such
a compliment.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Will maybe this year I'll go as your character from
Night of the Demons.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Uh Oh, I mean you're gonna have to wear that
ballerina costume. I do love it, and the hair is
great and you could have the messed up you stick. Oh,
that would be a great costume.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Oh, that would be good. That would be really good.
You've got to show up.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I will.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Well, then maybe i'll be trash from Return of the Living.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
That I want that.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I won't do the nude death scene, but when you
have your whole punk sorry, the nude dance scene.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
That has done nude before. He was in two plays
where there was nudity.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Pleasant Yeah, theater, theater were on stage. I was a play,
So I feel like it was probably easier to do
that than naked in film because on stage the lights
are there, so you can't really see all the people
that are.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Watching you, you know.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Oh okay, so yeah, were you scared a little bit?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Oh yeah, I mean the before I was more scared
knowing like that friends were coming to see the show,
and I was thinking. But then I was like okay,
But for me, I tried to make I was like,
they're seeing this character naked, not me, which doesn't really
make sense, but it was me. But yeah, So but
then I got over it because I got used to.

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You know, you're doing theater, You're doing it over and
over again, and so then I was like who cares?

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, you're right, it's like it's like when you go
to the doctor, you don't want to show them anything,
you know, and it's like embarrassing even though they've seen
a million bodies.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
You know, and I know, and the Doctor's like, I
really don't care, Like you're making this worse.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Than this club. I need to be in a show
where I'm naked.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh yeah, you better, tim and you better do it soon.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Your contract and get that stunt pay.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yes, I'm gonna do a scene where I'm naked and
running naked running or dancing and get stuck in yes. Yes,
Oh well, it has been such a pleasure talking with
you today, Lenee. Really, we really really appreciate it. We
are so honored to have you on the show. Thank
you so much for taking the time today.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Oh, thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Thank you for showing that we really appreciate it. And yes,
we will definitely be in touch.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Okay, Okay, we better be and I'll see you guys
as Trash and Suzanne I hope.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
So okay, we'll take care. Enjoy the rest of your day, okay,
oh enjoy.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
O, goodbye, Okay, see you guys, come by.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
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