January 28, 2025 • 53 mins
Episode #273: Danny and Mark talk about the 2025 M3 Festival line-up for May 2,3,& 4 at Merriweather Post Pavillion in Columbia, Maryland. We also discuss the Top 5 guitar players we've seen live. Please share and subscribe on any podcast platform.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
On your Mark, get ready start broadcasting from California and Delaware.
(00:32):
This is the Hard Rocking Trivia Show and here're your host,
Mark and Danny.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Hard Rocking Trivia Show. Yeah,
we got a bunch of things going on today. First off,
they just released the new M three lineup, which is
May second, third, and fourth back at the Meriwether Post
(00:58):
Pavilion in Columbia, Maryland, not too far from me. So
I usually try to go when I'm in town, but
I'm gonna be in Costa Rica that weekend, so boo
once again. Last year was my daughter graduating from her
undergrad so I was in Florida that weekend. So yeah,
(01:18):
one more year that I can't go. But I thought
we'd have a little discussion about who is in the
lineup because there's some pretty interesting people.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, let's see here now, Kis is on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right, No, they are not, go figure, let me get it,
let me put it up here, all right, So Friday,
May second. The opening band they usually have like a
small small show Friday night.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Not a lot of bands, just two or three.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
This year the opening band at Snake Oil, which I've
never heard of.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I'm guessing a local band maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, probably a local band. And then a guy I
have seen in the past and I wouldn't mind seeing
again because I've heard he's awesome and you saw him
recently as Sebastian Bach. So that's a that's a cool
Friday night.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, Sebastian is still great live, still can sing, still
brings it. I highly recommend Sebastian Box. So that's that's
We're offti a good start.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, off to a good start.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
If it's not Kicks, then Sebastian Box not bad. Not
bad replacement, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Uh. May Third, we'll go in.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Reverse order or order that they are performing so something
called soundcheck rock.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I have no idea what that is. Maybe it's just
maybe it's just the PA system being on and playing
who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Or something with kids playing like a yeah, they can't
type thing.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I don't know they're playing.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They're opening Sunday show also, so or whatever that is
is listed first on Saturday and Sunday. Okay, so the
next thing on Saturday is Redvood. I don't know anything
about them.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I think they're a newer band, kind of like a
Dirty Honey type band, young guys that play classic seventies
and eighties sounding music. I have heard of them, and
I don't think they've putting out anything, but yes, I've heard.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Of them, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, I'm into the dirty Honey kind of thing. They
they're good, you know, kind of like Rival Sons kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, quality stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Next is Child's Play, which I saw at the last
M three I went to, which was good. You know,
I don't know anything about them. I think they had
a couple of different lead singers and some of them
came back. I think they're kind of a local band
to the Baltimore area.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, they are. They had a major label deal. I
think they released one, maybe two albums. I honestly never
got into them, so I couldn't tell you they're good
or bad. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The next one is the original drummer from from Guns
and Roses, Steven Adler. So I'm guessing he's gonna have
a bunch of Guns and Roses songs.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, he's gonna play perform songs with the Guns and
Roses tribute band that plays everything he played on. So yeah,
you'll know that you'll know the tunes and Steven's the
likable guy, but it's pretty much a tribute band.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, yeah, it is what it is. Next is another
band I saw at the last M three, which is Slaughter.
They were great. Mark Slaughter can scream his ass off.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He can't still can he sing? Or is he screaming?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's it's mostly screaming.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Okay, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was a lot of screaming and by the end
I was like, who, that's got to hurt his voice.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But he's still doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, so you still say they're good. Okay, well take
your where for it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Next up is Winger, which I saw at the last
M three also, and Kip was not doing well. He
he said he was sick, and.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, maybe they should.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Have bout out or something, but well, I don't know.
They they weren't great last night. They musically they were awesome,
but his singing had had some work to do.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So maybe they felt bad about their performance there because
normally bands don't come back the scene in the next year,
so maybe it's like one of those things. They Hey,
you know what, we weren't at our best. Give us
another shot at it and we'll do better. Yeah, I
could see that happening.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, I was there two years ago. Okay, uh, that's
when Styx was the big headliner. Most people left, which
I cannot understand in the least. But I guess Styx
is a little more mellow or people think they're more mellow,
which was not the case at all. They were awesome,
but whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so were god thumbs up for me?
So oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Then a band I would definitely like to see again
because I haven't seen him since you and I.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I saw them in I guess it was the country Club. Yep,
we saw him in the cu accept so uh. The
their singer is unbelievable. He's I mean, he's no udo,
but that's all right. He's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I saw them at the Whiskey a few months back,
and they crush it. They are so good, and I
think they played M three once before and they went
down really well because they are a little heavier and
a little different from every other band on the bill,
but they're still they're still they're melodic as well, but
they're melodic and really heavy. So oh yes, they sound great.
(06:38):
They'll go down like a storm.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And then the headliner for Saturday Night, which I am
shocked about is David Lee Roth.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah. I don't from what I've seen, he cannot sing.
I saw him on his last Van Haalen tour and
it was not good, not good at all.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Just listened to that Live in Tokyo dB CD DVD. Ooh,
it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It is, so they should they should not have put
that out.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I don't know why they did. Maybe they had a
record company thing and they had to put something out
and that's what they did. But it's awful. And Dave's
been putting out these videos on YouTube and they're goofy
as hell. Most of the time he's just dancing around.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, I don't feel Back in the day he was amazing,
but I don't find him entertaining it all anymore. He's just,
you know, he does some spin and then looks at
the audience like, hey, you see.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That, huh huh oh he just stopped.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
He's like a male version of Carol Channing, you know,
from in the seventies. Oh Diamon's Giles bass for a hand.
He looks like a male version of her.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, and it's like all campy and no.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, what are you gonna get when you see him?
I hope you can just get him with a rocking
band behind him playing his hits and the Van Halen hits.
That would be the way to go. I'm gonna guess
that's what you're gonna get. But you Yeah, we've seen
Dave come out on the Tonight Show and get do
a country version of Jump, so you just never know.
(08:16):
So he interesting. I'd be interested to see it. I
think I'm just gonna not go to M three flight
across the country and see it. I'll just see Whateverboddy
films and puts it up on YouTube. I'm hoping he's great.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But yeah, I hope he is too. I was. I mean,
Van Halen was one of my top five bands back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Right, But expectations are really low for that one. But
we hope it's great.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So that's Saturday Sunday, May fourth. You have that soundcheck
Rock again and then Spread Eagle, which I've heard a
little bit of. They're pretty heavy.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I like Spritty though. I have a couple of albums.
There's one that's crazy and they're playing the whiskey I
think pretty soon I might just have to go and
see him because I really like one of their albums.
So yeah, they're a New York band, pretty heavy, sleazy,
heavy New York eighties eighty slash early nineties band. They're
really good.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Nice, So that's a good, good lead off to Sunday.
Then Vixen, which we've seen before at M three. They
do not suck.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
They don't suck, and they have a new lead singer
too nice and she is part one of the woman
females who performs with the uh the same thing that
Jeff Scott Soto does the Christmas.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Thing o Trans Sibery and Orchestra.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
She's part of that. She's a Canadian singer. I think
she's like fifty and she hasn't looked fifty and she's
a great singer. So maybe they're better than they ever were,
but they were always pretty good to begin with.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So oh yeah, I like them a lot. Yeah they
were great when we saw them.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah they're they're better live than they are on their albums.
Their albums are okay, they're better live.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh yeah, they're much harder.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Another artist I've seen to them three in the past
is lead of Ford she's next, and she's okay. I mean,
she has like five or six songs that she does
every time and then you know that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah. I hate kissing Me Deadly though.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh I hate that song too. I hate that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I hate the the mellow onese she did with Ozzie.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Close your eyes, pressure eyes, Yeah, close you that's forever. Yeah.
I don't really like those. Those are her biggest hits,
and I don't like either one of them, though I
do lick some of them more rock and tunes that
weren't hits. So when we saw her, we were entertained.
She was good her band, but you know it's not
somebody I had run out to see.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But after Lead the Ford is a band, or well,
afterly the Ford is when I'll go get dinner, because
that's when Great White comes on. I don't know, I mean,
Jack Russell was Great White.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
So what are they?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
What are they doing? They've had since Jack, right since
Jack Russell left the band and they split into two.
Obviously Jack has passed away. Now they've had like five
or six lead vocalists, and I guess they got some
young guy now in his twenties who can really sing
the stuff. I imagine they do a good job of it.
But you know, I like Great I like Great White
(11:23):
when they were a heavy metal band. When they went
to blues bass, I was like, that kind of lost
me there. But they're not bad, just like you know,
they're not exciting either.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, but that's when I'll take a break.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Next up, I've seen a band I've seen a couple
of times, Warrant, who are always great.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, no problems with them. I don't know. I guess
three fists of them are there. Maybe they're gonna have
four fists. I don't know, but they're still solid live,
the songs translate well, and they're very entertaining. Robert Mason's
a great singer, so yeah, you know, you know, you
know what you're getting with them, So they're not gonna suck, nope.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Next is a guy I've seen a couple of times,
but I guess I only saw him with His band
is Ace Frehley, which will not suck for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You hope, Yeah, because it depends on what Ace comes out.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But yeah, sometimes Ace is great. His backing band is
a bunch of Nashville dudes and they're great. But you
see some video and Ace is like, Okay, it sounded
really I mean, we know Ace is not a great singer, yeah,
but you hope he picks the right tunes and he's
on his game. When he's on his game, he is
pretty damn good. But sometimes he's a little off, like
(12:44):
the person who's coming after him. Sometimes they're really good
and sometimes they're not. But lately Ace has been like
hit or miss. So ya hope he's great. I mean
he's a legend and I'm a big fan, so yeah, yeah,
i'd be excited to see him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I would definitely like to see him, just you know,
it depends on what Jayce comes out. And then the
headliner for Sunday is Piercy and de Martini, who are
everybody knows two of the guys in Rat and they
are performing RAT songs.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So and this is a big deal because Dean Martini
hasn't been doing anything for years.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah yeah, he hasn't been a part of any any
incarnation of RAT. So so very interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Interesting. And I follow Jason Green and he's the tour
manager for Stephen Pearcy and the Stephen Piercy band is
really good, but from what I've heard, he's not using
the Stephen Piercy Band. He's gonna use Warren and three
other guys, and apparently they're all name guys. So I'm
a feeling these are gonna be different guys than the
(13:54):
Stephen Piercy Band. So who knows? It hasn't been They
haven't said who it is yet, and everybody's thinking, could
it be Carlos Cavazo on second guitar, who's gonna play
bass and drums? I don't know. It's not gonna be
Blottso or any old rat guys, so who knows who
it can be. I'm gonna guess it's some guys who
live in all in Vegas are gonna practice there, so
(14:16):
all Vegas based guys practice and then go out to
the show. So yeah, But the fact that Warren's playing
again is kind of cool because he hasn't played in years.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Is he playing now or is this gonna be one
of his first shows?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
This is gonna be his first show, we think, because
right now the Stephen Piercy Band is Johnny Monico from
Enough's Enough and those guys Matt Thorne and who is
there and the guy from Slaughter on drums, bloss Elias,
those guys is the Stephen Piercy band, but apparently this
is gonna be a different.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Group of guys, so well, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I'd be excited. And Steven Piercy's actually been sounding pretty good.
I guess he's cleaned up his life, not on the
drugs or the drink. And from my scene, he sounds
like he used to. He was never a great singer,
but at least he sounds decent now. And if you
got great guys behind you, it's gonna sound good. Just
kind of like Roth. If you got great guys behind you,
(15:13):
it's gonna bring your game up. So you hope it's
gonna happen. You hope they're gonna be great. So if
I was in the area, I would go just to
see and hoping I would want to spend three hundred
dollars on a train wreck man. But yeah, there's a
there's enough good bands on that where I would be satisfied.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know when the headliners are if he I'm kind
of like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, because they're the longest sets.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, Because if it's gonna be bad, it's gonna be
bad for a.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
While, right, But our expectations would be low, so you
they're low and they're better than that, and you leave satisfied.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I guess, well, do you want to go to a
show and go, well, he wasn't that bad?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
No, I want to say, oh he was great?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So we're going this year, so I I probably would.
If I had to pick one day, I would probably
go Sunday, mainly for Ace because I think the last
time I saw him was with Kiss in seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Really, that's the last time I've seen him live. Yeah, wow,
I saw I've seen him solo a couple of times,
and I've seen him in Kiss when they came back
in ninety six. So I've seen him at least at
least four times, all right, and most of the time,
most time, every time i've seen him, he's been great.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
So well, okay, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's going to be interesting, that's what may second, third,
and fourth. Yeah, Maryland, i'd brother post. I'd be curious.
I have a feeling it's going to be packed for
that one. I mean, just David Lee Roth, just the
name alone, old van Halen. People would want to see
him just because he hasn't done anything in a while.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So yeah, I'd rather see Sammy and Michael and that,
you know, the best of all worlds too.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'd rather see that at M three Oh so huge,
so good.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But I don't think sam he's gonna take it on tour.
He's gonna do it in Vegas for a residency for sure. Yeah,
which that might be another reason to flowing out to
Vegas with the wife and yeah, you know, you know
that's only four hours for me. Yeah, I'd I'd be
into doing that things like that in the future, just
(17:25):
putting it on, just put it out hard, just making
it known, all right. So from that on, while we
we wanted to, I came up with something off the
top of my head because, uh, everybody's talking about John
Sykes from Thin Lizzie and White Snake and Tigers and
how he passed away and all these guitar players are
talking about how influential he was and how great he was,
(17:47):
and gotten me thinking like, what is some because I
got to see John Sykes. So I came up with
Danny and I are gonna do our top five guitarists
that we've seen in person at me an impact on us.
So we're gonna give you a list of the people
that we've seen them. I don't know what Danny's list is,
and he doesn't know what mine is, but I'm sure
(18:07):
there's gonna be a couple of people that are the same.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Oh yeah, so obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So let's start off with the honorable mentions, Danny, who
are your honorable mentions for you? The guitarists that you've
seen live?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
See This is hard for me because I love seeing
good guitar players, and but I narrowed down to five
that are a pretty solid group. But then I had
three that were honorable mentions that I could not go
without mentioning.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
One I saw the most recently is Richie cottson Okay,
the guy's unbelievable just and he play He doesn't play
with a pick, he plays fingerstyle.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But good lord, the guy killed jam.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah. Doesn't Jeff Beck play like that too? Or didn't he? Yeah?
I know, Lindsay Buckingham does. To me that it seems
like it'd be harder, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Know, Well, it depends all depends on what you're used to,
you know, if you're.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It would it seems to me it would be easier if.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You're like a shredder to play with a pick, because
you can just you just get your wrist going and
you can really go fast. But if you can do
that with your fingers, like I saw a guy on Instagram,
Rick Piatto was interviewing him and he can do that
with his fingers, you know, just like play that fast
(19:30):
fingertip fingerpicking and wow, yeah he's got all four fingers
going where most guys would need to pick to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But the Colson, his fingers must be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, So Richie Cottson's one of my honorable mentions. Another
one is Joe Bonamasaka that I saw. I actually met
the guy before the show. He was out signing autographs
and I was working that night. He was at the
Grand Grand Opera House in Wilmington and he was just
standing in front of this like backdrop of like his
(20:03):
latest album. And at the time I was walking by,
it was between between people that were coming in to
say hi to him, and he just said, hey, how
you doing.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I said hey and shook his hand.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It seems like a regular dude.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Great guy, just you know, just unbelievable blues guitar player.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I've never seen him.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, he's he's great.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And then another guy I don't know if you know
who this guy is. His name is Leo Kottkey.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
He's a jazz guy right, more of a.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Folk kind of acoustic guitarist.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The guy is so so freaking good and I saw
him open for uh Jake Shimma Bakuru, who is a.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Shoot I've never heard of him either.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
As h I mean, if you can check out a
video Jake Shimmour playing. He does a version of Bohemian Rhapsody.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
On a band on a ukulele. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Wow, that sounds pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Check it out and he did it live when I
saw him, and it's just but anyway, Leo. I couldn't
believe Leo Kocky was opening for this guy because Leo
is like a legend on on the six and twelve
string acoustic guitar. Okay, anyway, those are my three honorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I got to see those guys. And that other guy
can't even pronounce his damn amer what's the ukulele player?
Do you see?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Jake shim Up Bakuru shum Up sh I've never heard
of He's Hawaiian, He's okay, a.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Ukulele, it's he. The guy is unbelievable. But also check
out the Leo Kocky and you ever I will. He's
it's a it's folk and it's acoustic. It's not hard
rock at all. But the guy, if we're talking greatest
guitar players that I've seen live, he is on the.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's he's on the If we were saying top ten,
he would be up there.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, out of out of your honorable mentions, the only
guy I've seen live. I saw Cottson with Poison. I
saw Cottson with mister Big and those. That was all
the time I've seen. I've never seen him and I
saw him in Winery Dogs, but I never saw him solo.
But yeah, he was always impressive every time. All right,
my honorable mentions, I don't know if you've seen, I
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know you've seen. Maybe I got five. First first one
was Ingay Malmstein. Okay, I saw him in at Alcatraz's
first show at the Country Club. Unbelievable speed.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Damn. I we saw him, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't know if we saw him together, but I
saw this the first Alcatrash show ever and he actually
tried it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Know, we we saw I think we saw a band
called a Little More.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
With Jeff Scott Soto.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yes, yeah, and it was like that was my connection
and that was that was Oh shoot, I can't remember
the guy's name on guitar.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
But he had braces at the time. He's very young.
Oh yeah, but I forgot who it was. Was it
a name guy? Later he becomes.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, he's not. He's not much of a name. He
still plays with Jeff Scott so in some of his bands.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Okay, uh shut, Gary Shutt. Okay, heard the name or
Shoot however you pronounce shoot anyway?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, all right, So ing the impressive, But problem with
VI is the music. I mean it's it's saey after
a while, like it can get a little boring. Yeah,
but it's it's impressive as hell to see. Next guy
Randy Rhodes. I saw him once Ozzy and okay him
Ozzy and Sarzo and uh the drum more with the
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hair what's his name? Oh my god, this is what
happens when you get sixty Tommy Aldridge that that lineup
with def Leppard opening, Yeah, at the time, nobody knew
who the hell he was, but he was impressive, and
I do like what I did, like what I saw,
but not enough to be in my top five.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
The next one is Paul Gilbert. Some people don't think
he's flashy, and he makes it look like it. He
makes it look easy. He's like a Bruce Culet guy,
doesn't look like he's working too hard, but he's really good.
So Paul Gilbert, and I think you've seen Paul. You
have you some Paul Steve Lucather I've seen total three times.
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Pressive as hell, can play anything. And recently I saw
Joe south Treanni for the first time played with Sammy Hagar. Okay,
pretty impressive. So yeah, he's on my he's my honorable
Those are my five honorable interests. Now i'd like to
also go ahead.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I could actually add Joe Satrianni because I saw him
played with Chicken Foot in Atlantic City and he was unbelievable.
I barely saw him though, because we were kind of
off to the side and he stayed near the back
near his amps, and so he came out a couple
of times. But it's like the bass player from Judas
Priest I know he was there, but I didn't see
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him much. But yeah, I could add him to one
of my Honorable mentions for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And to tie in to the the top five guitarists
that Danny and I both seen in person, well, I
also pulled up Rolling Stones two hundred and fifty guitars
of all time. They did a list in twenty twenty three,
and the people Danny mentioned none of those people are
on the top two fifty on my Honorable Mentions. Ing
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Day's not on the list, Paul Gilbert Stone on the list,
but Randy Rhoades is twenty one, Luca thur Is one
eighty six, and Josie I. Tronnis one twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, I remember that. Came out looking at that, going,
you gotta be kidding me? Oh yeah, But they put
Kurt Cobain on there, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh? They got some people. They're an absolute joke.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I'm as good as Kurt Cobain, I mean, and that's
not saying anything. That's that's a joke.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And there's there there are some worthy players on here,
but then there's some people like you gotta be who
are you serious?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, anyway, getting back to it. So we're gonna do
our top five guitar players that we've seen in person.
So starting off right, Danny will give us his number five.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
All right, My number five, who I saw not too
long ago on their most recent tour is Paul Gilbert
with mister Big.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Guy, Guy's strict from a freaking amazing and he does
make it look so easy. That's probably why you think, well,
he's not really playing that, but just the intro to
Green ten and sixties mind blows me away.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And it's so clean when he plays it, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Is it clean when you try it?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
No? No, it sounds like a pile of crap when
I try it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So yeah, yeah, I just remember this because I've seen
Paul Gilbert obviously mister Big. I've also seen him in
Racer X and I saw his solo band played when
he had They all wore red jumpsuits like they were astronauts.
I saw them play a three piece oh opening for Europe.
It was it was great.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I did see him also as part of G three, okay,
and I remember because he played that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Spaceship one song.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, that was the tour I saw him on.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Oh Man so so freaking cool.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, and a great guy, super nice, super mellow, no
ego at all. All right, I agree with that. Paul
Gilbert's awesome. My number five is also kind of a
shreddered guy. Steve I. I saw Steve I Open four.
I saw Steve I in David Lee Ross Band, and
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I saw Steve I in White Snake. And what's the
guy's fantastic unbelievable. He can play anything, right, And you
saw him in G three as well. I mean probably
he was probably in G three when you saw him, right,
No he was not. Oh he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Have you seen him though, Satriani, Paul Gilbert and.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh shoot, the guy.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
In Zach wasn't Zach Wilde was No.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Wasn't Zach Wilder, Mike, it was a guy in Dream Theater.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh, I know you. I forgot his name already.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Blank Portnoy on the brain. But that's the drummer anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, okay, also quality dudes, and Steve I did make
the list at one twenty seven having Yeah, but Johnny
Ramon is way ahead of them.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh, oh my god. Yeah, that's just the popularity contest.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh, it's it's it's critics. They got a dude from
the B fifty two's too forty seven.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Come on, it's a joke.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh okay, anyway, all.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Right, so my number four was on your list also,
and I can't believe he's not higher on my list.
But as Steve Luca thar, I've probably seen Toto six
or eight times and he blows me away every time,
just freaking unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And they're on tour now.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
They're probably they're coming to Atlantic City, which isn't too
far there with Christopher Cross and men at Work.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Which I might go. I'm yeah, Sylvie wants to go.
I might go to that. They're playing the Form of
all places. Oh wow, okay, had a huge venue. Hopefully
sell it out. But yeah, because they've always been a
club band every time I've seen them, I've never seen
him in a huge vine. I saw them open. I
saw him at Meriweather Post on the Total four tour
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with Frank in the Knockouts, and that's probably the biggest
venue I've seen him, and everything else has been small venues.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I've seen them ranging from on the back of a
semi trailer in the in the middle of a corn field,
uh to opening in a opening for Journey in a
giant stadium.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And the guys. I just finished his book. I listened
to his book. It was unbelievable. The guy's worked from
would work with everybody. I was going to give you
a rapid fire question about it's going to give you
four female vocalists who, uh he's worked I give you
four female vocalists name named the one who didn't he
didn't work with. So check this out. I'll give you.
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I'll give it to you now, all right, Barbara Streiss
and share Celine Dion and Olivia Newton John which one
has he not worked with?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'll say Celine Dion, correct, Yeah, all those other ones.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
He's worked with everybody.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
At the back of his book he has a discography
of everybody who's played with.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It goes on for like thirty pages. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, and you know what he can shred, but lots
of time he just plays to the song. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I followed you on Instagram and after what was supposed
to be the last Toto show in Philly where he
had David Page come out and they played Africa and
all that, and it was supposed to be the last
Toto show, so Dana got.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Me tickets for it. We had great seats.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He said afterwards that he apologized for overplaying, but he
just couldn't help it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I was like, shit, overplay all night for all I care.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
That was awesome, right, And you know what they they're
just on with the whole yacht rock thing. They're just
I mean, they're bigger than they ever were, so you
got to keep going. I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I don't even know who's in the band anymore. I'm
sure they're all great, so I know.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
He's the only one. He's He and Joe Williams.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I mean, Joe Williams is an original, but he's he's
one of the only remaining guys left.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I don't know who's on drums. I don't know who
was the playing the keyboards. I don't know. I'm sure
David Pace will come out of the LA show, but.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, probably Yeah. I think Greg phil and Jesus is
playing or Flangy's or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I know what he is, Yeah, he's he's.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Keyboards, and I think, uh, some guy named Shannon is
playing drums and the same guy is doing like sacks
and horns and stuff. Okay, but I don't know anybody else,
all right.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So you know, you know I'm not gonna stink. Okay,
all right, My number four has not been mentioned yet,
but I'm sure he might make your list, all right.
An No Bettencourt from Extreme He is unbelievable. We've been
fans since album one. We've both seen him multiple times,
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and then we saw him on the last tour. He
was great. Then he was great in the first album
all the way through. Oh yeah, he's just he's he
is the guy. Now. I think since Edward passed away,
people are looking for a guitar hero, and they're kind
of looking at Nuna a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I mean, what after that last album and some of
the solos on that album, it's no no wonder people
are looking at him as the the next guy.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Right. He's amazing. You can't see anything bad about him,
and he did make the list. Rolling Stone got it right.
He's one ninety seven. I see who's better than Let's
see who's better than him? Oh you know, right in
front of him is James Taylor. Oh, James Taylor. Okay,
and the guy and the guy in front of him
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great Gain from Black Flag.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
See you can imagine when I'm going through that list
what I'm thinking. You know these guys that are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
The guy from Black Flag.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah. When I think of Greek guitar playing, I think
of Black Flag. Okay, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
All right, So that that was your number four.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the other three then geez. Okay,
So my number three that I've seen multiple times.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Is Eddie van Halen.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
He had three. Wow. Okay, well you haven't heard my
one and two yet, so that's surprising. But okay, but.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, what are you going to say?
I've seen him in all incarnations. I saw him with
David Lee Roth back in the day. I saw him
with Sammy Hagar, saw him with Gary Sharon, saw him
back with with David Lee Roth and.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Should have stopped before that, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Right, Yeah, I've seen him. I saw him mostly with Roth.
Never got to see him with Sammy and I did
and he was great with Sharon. Yeah, he's influenced everybody.
What I mean, he actually made the list? Shocking huh
he's number four. Okay, all right, Well that that's respectable,
said Rolling Stone, got that right. He should be in
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the top five.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, so I'm sure. I'm sure Jimmy Hendrix and Jimmy
Page are up there.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah. Well, I can tell you my top three. Two
of my top three didn't make the list.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Oh Jesus, see the Rolling Stone list is a joke.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, they stink all right. My number three I've seen.
I saw him. I only I saw him with Thin
Lizzy when he fronted Thin Lizzy in the nineties. That
is John Sykes. Oh man, he was unbelievable. I saw
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him the Key Club in Hollywood, which was Gazzaries before
that and it became the Key Club. I was three
feet in front of the dude.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Jeezuz.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
The tone was unbelievable. People were losing their minds. The
place was over sold. And I what I've heard of
from about John Sykes when all these people are giving
their eulogies, that John didn't believe that anybody thought he
was any good or you know, he he John Sykes
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like Johns.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I'd like to talk to the I'd like to talk
to these people, and thought he wasn't any good.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
No, no, no, John Sykes didn't think that people thought he
was any good. He didn't have he didn't have an ego.
I didn't realize how much people loved him. He didn't
understand that, which.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Is I don't know what David Coverdial did to the guy.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
But yeah, it was I think that just killed his ego.
And then when Blue Murder didn't blow up like it
was supposed to, I think he just he just didn't.
It's like, oh, what do I have to do? You know?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Man?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Blue Murderer had their first albums such a cold following.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
That's a classic.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Oh yeah, and the guy was fantastic. But the funny
thing is the last time I saw John Sykes was
at Costco and Northridge and with that's John Sykes.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Oh my god, have the hair.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
He had a hat on, but you can you could
see the hair too. I mean he wasn't dressed like
he was a rock star. He's dressed down to kind of.
But I shot saw my god, I worshiped this guy.
He was great. And when you hear Zach Wild play,
you can tell you influenced by John Sykes.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's what's it called squelts that noisy makes? I forgot?
You know? When he plays it's a pin tarmonic pin
tarmonic so yeah, Sykes did that first. Yeah, and then
you hear Zach plays Zach does it like okay, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
He Obviousach Zach overdoes it, but he does it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, but still pretty cool here.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, it's funny because it's not hard to do at
all now, just but it's like a trick that once
you learn it, it's like, oh okay, well that that's it.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's easy to do, but sounds cool.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, agreed, A right, all right.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Well I never got to see him, so that's a bummer.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, so you're number what's your number two?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
My number two? I saw?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oh man, it had to have been early nineties or
late eighties. No, it was late eighties, I guess. And
that's Gary Moore.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Gary Moore. You saw Gary Moore than nineteen three?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
First time it would have been, yeah, because he was
opening for Crocus and def Leppard.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Correct, Yeah, Danny and I were sitting together for that.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah. It was a corridors of power, unbelievable. Just yeah,
I don't the rest of the guitar players on that
bill should have just said, okay, well good night, y'all
have seen it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So what was cool was def Leppard were fans of
Gary Moore. So they brought him on the tour, so
he got all the sound and all the lights as
all the other bands did. Dany and I just sat
there and went because we didn't know anything about it.
We knew who he was and he was within Lizzy.
We didn't know any of the songs, nothing. We just
had looked looked at you like, oh my god, this
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guy's unbelievable. Became Yeah, we keep fans. We were fans
on that day. Oh yeah, hooked for life.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I think that day I think we went and got
his catalog or in the next couple of days we
is that. Okay, we're getting everything he did with them, Lizzie.
We're getting is all of his solo stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah. Oh just I mean, and guess what Gary Moore given.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
All that blue stuff, all the blue stuff he did
was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah. I got to see that tour. I saw him
on when he did the Still Got the Blues tour.
It was great. But you know, I got tired of
the blue stuff pretty quick. I'm just not a big
blues guy. I like the rock stuff, the eighties rock stuff.
But yeah, still all right, so number yeah, so Gary
Moore is in front of Edward van Halen. Okay, I
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could see that Gary was pretty great.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I mean, these all five of these guys, I mean
they could be in the order pretty much.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But Gary's You're two, one or two. My number two
is Edward van Halen, Okay, the same reason as you said.
I mean I got to see him first on the
Van Halen two tour in Germany, and I remember making
all those noises before the band came on, you know,
the elephant noise. Yeah, and all the Germans and the
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American people just going bonkers and just couldn't wait to
hear it, and they hit the stage. They just blew
us away. The place was packed, prob about two thousand people.
We were just knocked out. And I think I was
fourteen or fifteen. That was it. I was hooked right there. Yep,
first come, first concert. I've loved hard rocking to heavy
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metal ever since, and all goes back to that day
as a kid.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh, it's so good. I mean even in the last
time I saw him, he was great. So yeah, that's
my number two. So both of us mentioned him, and
of course he's number four on the list.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, and then my number one. We've already talked about.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Is Nuno Bettencourt number one.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, the guy just he's so damn good. He can
play anything. He's so melodic. I mean, he's not up
with the melodic level of Steve Lucater, but he can
play that. He can shred and his chops are unreal. Yeah,
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just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
And he's after all these years, he's still great.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
And if you haven't got Extreme six, go get it.
It's an amazing album, different styles of music. The guitar
playing is out of this world. You have to see
this guy. I mean, even when he does his little jams,
he's still creating, play anything. There's nothing he can say
bad about it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, there there's one part.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Most of the times I've seen him, and I've seen
Extreme probably six or eight times too, and he's he's
just ripping off this killer solo and he does it
all the time. But he'll be up at the front
of the stage dripping his solo and then kind of
yawning and pretending like he's bored, and you know, kind
of he does it through I'll play with me like
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he's bored, and we just look at his fingers flying,
like really, we don't believe you?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
What?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Oh may Yeah, I'm just playing this Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, unreal amazing. Okay, so what do you think my
number one is?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
H Gary Moore?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Gary Moore is my number one? I mean I was
a fan and when we were sitting in the Cap
Center before Crocus and def Leppard on the Pyromania tour,
Gary Moore blew our minds. And I saw him again
in Washington, d C. Were you there with me? It
was on the Wild Frontier tour. I know, Griff Harrison
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was there with me. Were you there also? I don't
think so, so yeah, maybe I was in college. Okay,
so yeah, I took Griff to see Gary Moore and
it was with a Wild Frontier band, Bob Daisley on bass,
Eric Singer on drums, and Neil Carter on second guitar
and keyboards. That band blew my mind. I saw them there.
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It wasn't it wasn't the nine thirty club, but it
was the other club in DC. I forget the name
of it.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Oh, not the nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It was the famous It was a little bigger than
nine thirty club.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I saw Butch Walker in that club. I know
what exact one you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I can't remember it. I don't know. I'm gonna guess
it's still there.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
But yeah, it was a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, but uh. And then I saw that same tour
when he played all the places, the Roxy in front
of three hundred people, and everybody was in there with
somebody because Tracy Gunn says he was there. I saw
black and blue in there everywhere. Everybody around me was
in a band to see Gary Moore in a place
that held three hundred people and there's a little chunky
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Gary Moore right in front of you, sweat and his
balls off. I mean it wasn't a handsome man, but
the guy. I mean I was literally three feet from
him watching him sweat all over us and the band
was on fire. He was on fire. I think he could.
He was so happy because people are losing their minds.
It was so great. And the final time I saw him,
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I saw him in the biggest vent, one of the
bigger venues is a headlining Still got the Blues when
he played blues at this place, and half the people
there probably didn't even know he had a rock career
because I talked to people. Gary Moore, you got his
I was like, no, I just heard this guy was good,
so I just I like this still got the blue song. Yeah,
they had no idea he had a history. But you know,
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they had these things at Universal Amphitheater where if you
buy you could buy five concerts and for a discount
of price, and probably these people bought probably about all
these other ones they went to and Gary Moore he
he could be good.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I'm gonna go he's a good guitar player. Huh.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
So. Yeah, the people initially were like, Okay, this guy's good,
but this went on and on and on and on.
They really got into it because like, wow, they were
blown away. He was great. But I didn't love his
blue stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, that stuff gets kind of old. I mean after
a while, you're like like a bay stuff. Okay, yeah
you're really fast. Yeah you're still really fast.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
And what stinks with John Sykes and Gary Moore is
Gary Moore was in the process of doing another rock album.
He's gonna go back to rock. Oh really so yeah
that was the thing, and then he ties in that
was he he drank himself to death I think in
a hotel room in Spain. Yeah, he was about to
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do another rock album, and Sykes has already recorded a
rock album. He just never put it out. I don't know.
It was supposed to come out in Golden Robot years ago.
So there's an album and can we just never heard it.
So maybe maybe his I know he's got kids, maybe
his family will put it out. You know that'd be nice.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Oh yeah, I wish.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I'll be the just want to get it. Yeah. So though,
that's our top five guitarists that we've seen in person,
and you know, hopefully you guys people have seen some
of these people. And if there's some guys out there,
yeah I haven't seen yet, go see them because you're
not gonna be around forever.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah yeah, who knew?
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Who knew?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
John Sykes was even sick.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah. Three of my five guitar players are dead now,
My top three are dead. Unbelievable. And I never got
to see Jeff Beck, and I heard he was amazing.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, I would like to have seen Jeff Beck.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, not a fan of his musics per se, but
what I've seen them from videos with a young female
bass player, it was impressive.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Oh yeah, the guy is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah and cool.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
You know when you get all these really famous musicians
like Alice Cooper and stuff talking about the best guitar
player they know, they all say Jeff Beck. Yeah, so
it's not it's I don't think it's unfounded.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
So and also Gary Moore is not on the top
two hundred and fifty guitar players list, but the guitar
player and the Cramps is on there.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Oh okay, well the Cramps, Yeah I understand that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
When I think great guitar playing, I think of the Cramps.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
What a see that? This? You know that has that
holds about as much worth as the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Oh oh, here's another one. Johnny Thunders is on there,
John Thunder, Johnny Thunders and the New York Dolls. When
I think are great guitar players, I think of the
New York Dolls.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
No, when I think of Johnny Thunders, I think a
heroin exactly. I don't think a great guitar playing. You know. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
It's like they came up with this list off of
just okay, well let's see who. Let's go look at
your album collection. See what albums you go?
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Oh, you have a New York Oh yeah, let's put
him on there.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Oh, here's another one. That one namee Danita Sparks from
L seven, Peter Buck from em.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Who are in the top ten on that list?
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Okay, I mean the top ten is let's see just
some of these names. There's some names that are on
there that are way too high or they're okay, the
top ten, all right, Ten is Dwayne Almond from the
Almon Brothers. Okay, get that, okay. Number nine is Joni Mitchell,
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and I think are great guitar players. I think of
Joni Mitchell, Jony Mitchell, beautiful voice, nice songwriter. I don't
think they're a great guitarist. Mind blowing, No, okay? Number
eight bb King, okay, legend, I give him that, all right.
Number seven Nile Rogers from chic Great guitar player, but
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I don't think unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Wouldn't say top ten.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
But respectable. Is he better than Gary Moore? No? All right?
Number six sister Rosetta Tharp. I'm gonna guess that's an
old blues player from the thirties.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Or forties, isn't that? It wasn't some nun?
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah I could, yeah, I think so. Why Why do
you and number six but not Gary Moore.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Six guitar player in the history of the world. Is
some lady we've never heard of?
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah, not not not Gary Moore who they brought out
to play with David Gilmore on National TV and doing
my guitar gently weeps and he did the solo. Prince
did it too, but Gary Moore also did it. They
didn't call these other people. Five is Jeff Beck, okay,
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get it? Fourth and Van Halen. Three is Jimmy Page, Okay, okay,
Jimmy Page. Influential for sure, a little sloppy for my taste,
but still great guitar player. Number two Chuck Berry obviously
for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Well, he was an original, was he's a good guitar player.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
And just because he influenced everybody after him, so he
got to.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, but he had the one the one stick the banana.
Listen to it like you could do an album and
eight out of ten songs start with that little riff.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, they're all similar because he Yeah, that's all he got, that's.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
All that's that's his his. And did you hear the
story and the Steve look at their book about that? Yes,
he said Steve Luke at their home because I don't
play with other guitar players. Yeah, all right, Well you
don't want to get shown up, is what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
And number one Jimmy Hendricks.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Correct, Yeah, you can't fault that, so yeah, oh don't.
And number seventeen mother Mabel Carter from the Carter family. Who.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, Yeah, that list is a joke.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I mean I looked through it. I looked that every
one of them and just a joke.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, Neil Young is thirty. Is Neil Young a good
guitar player?
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Ew?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
No, sloppy as hell. He's a better songwriter than his
guitar player. But you know, here's what I thought of.
I don't know if he's on here, but Glenn Campbell,
Glenn Campbell was a great guitar player.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Uh he he should be up there along with Roy Clark.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Roy Clark is an amazing guitar player. I'm not gonna
go through here, but not Roy Clark has to be
on that list. I watched them. There's a video on
YouTube of Glenn Campbell playing Gentle on my Mind with
a bund He's so. Roy Clark is there too, Willie
Nelson is there. There's a whole bunch of country out
is sitting there and he plays the solo and he's
on an acoustic. You're going, oh my god, look at
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the speed on this. This is Glenn Campbell.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
You know, when you when you have when you have
Roy Clark and and Willie Nelson watching you play a solo.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
You know you're good.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
I think Jerry otherwise they'd be like, eh.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I think Jerry Reid was there too. I mean all
top notch country dudes. We all know Rick Clarke was worldly,
he's a legend, and Glenn clar I mean, finally people
are starting to notice claim Campbell. I mean the musicians
already knew about him, but everybody else. All right, we've
gone on a tangent.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Oh he was.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
He was part of the Wrecking Crew before he went
out and did the Ryanstone Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I highly recommend that documentary, The Wrecking Crew,
all those people.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, amazing
On your Mark, get ready start broadcasting from California and Delaware.
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This is the Hard Rocking Trivia Show and here're your host,
Mark and Danny.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Hard Rocking Trivia Show. Yeah,
we got a bunch of things going on today. First off,
they just released the new M three lineup, which is
May second, third, and fourth back at the Meriwether Post
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Pavilion in Columbia, Maryland, not too far from me. So
I usually try to go when I'm in town, but
I'm gonna be in Costa Rica that weekend, so boo
once again. Last year was my daughter graduating from her
undergrad so I was in Florida that weekend. So yeah,
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one more year that I can't go. But I thought
we'd have a little discussion about who is in the
lineup because there's some pretty interesting people.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, let's see here now, Kis is on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right, No, they are not, go figure, let me get it,
let me put it up here, all right, So Friday,
May second. The opening band they usually have like a
small small show Friday night.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Not a lot of bands, just two or three.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
This year the opening band at Snake Oil, which I've
never heard of.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I'm guessing a local band maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, probably a local band. And then a guy I
have seen in the past and I wouldn't mind seeing
again because I've heard he's awesome and you saw him
recently as Sebastian Bach. So that's a that's a cool
Friday night.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, Sebastian is still great live, still can sing, still
brings it. I highly recommend Sebastian Box. So that's that's
We're offti a good start.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, off to a good start.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
If it's not Kicks, then Sebastian Box not bad. Not
bad replacement, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Uh. May Third, we'll go in.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Reverse order or order that they are performing so something
called soundcheck rock.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I have no idea what that is. Maybe it's just
maybe it's just the PA system being on and playing
who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Or something with kids playing like a yeah, they can't
type thing.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I don't know they're playing.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They're opening Sunday show also, so or whatever that is
is listed first on Saturday and Sunday. Okay, so the
next thing on Saturday is Redvood. I don't know anything
about them.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I think they're a newer band, kind of like a
Dirty Honey type band, young guys that play classic seventies
and eighties sounding music. I have heard of them, and
I don't think they've putting out anything, but yes, I've heard.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Of them, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, I'm into the dirty Honey kind of thing. They
they're good, you know, kind of like Rival Sons kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, quality stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Next is Child's Play, which I saw at the last
M three I went to, which was good. You know,
I don't know anything about them. I think they had
a couple of different lead singers and some of them
came back. I think they're kind of a local band
to the Baltimore area.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, they are. They had a major label deal. I
think they released one, maybe two albums. I honestly never
got into them, so I couldn't tell you they're good
or bad. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The next one is the original drummer from from Guns
and Roses, Steven Adler. So I'm guessing he's gonna have
a bunch of Guns and Roses songs.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, he's gonna play perform songs with the Guns and
Roses tribute band that plays everything he played on. So yeah,
you'll know that you'll know the tunes and Steven's the
likable guy, but it's pretty much a tribute band.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, yeah, it is what it is. Next is another
band I saw at the last M three, which is Slaughter.
They were great. Mark Slaughter can scream his ass off.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He can't still can he sing? Or is he screaming?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's it's mostly screaming.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Okay, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was a lot of screaming and by the end
I was like, who, that's got to hurt his voice.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But he's still doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, so you still say they're good. Okay, well take
your where for it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Next up is Winger, which I saw at the last
M three also, and Kip was not doing well. He
he said he was sick, and.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, maybe they should.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Have bout out or something, but well, I don't know.
They they weren't great last night. They musically they were awesome,
but his singing had had some work to do.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So maybe they felt bad about their performance there because
normally bands don't come back the scene in the next year,
so maybe it's like one of those things. They Hey,
you know what, we weren't at our best. Give us
another shot at it and we'll do better. Yeah, I
could see that happening.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, I was there two years ago. Okay, uh, that's
when Styx was the big headliner. Most people left, which
I cannot understand in the least. But I guess Styx
is a little more mellow or people think they're more mellow,
which was not the case at all. They were awesome,
but whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so were god thumbs up for me?
So oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Then a band I would definitely like to see again
because I haven't seen him since you and I.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I saw them in I guess it was the country Club. Yep,
we saw him in the cu accept so uh. The
their singer is unbelievable. He's I mean, he's no udo,
but that's all right. He's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I saw them at the Whiskey a few months back,
and they crush it. They are so good, and I
think they played M three once before and they went
down really well because they are a little heavier and
a little different from every other band on the bill,
but they're still they're still they're melodic as well, but
they're melodic and really heavy. So oh yes, they sound great.
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They'll go down like a storm.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And then the headliner for Saturday Night, which I am
shocked about is David Lee Roth.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah. I don't from what I've seen, he cannot sing.
I saw him on his last Van Haalen tour and
it was not good, not good at all.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Just listened to that Live in Tokyo dB CD DVD. Ooh,
it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It is, so they should they should not have put
that out.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I don't know why they did. Maybe they had a
record company thing and they had to put something out
and that's what they did. But it's awful. And Dave's
been putting out these videos on YouTube and they're goofy
as hell. Most of the time he's just dancing around.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, I don't feel Back in the day he was amazing,
but I don't find him entertaining it all anymore. He's just,
you know, he does some spin and then looks at
the audience like, hey, you see.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That, huh huh oh he just stopped.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
He's like a male version of Carol Channing, you know,
from in the seventies. Oh Diamon's Giles bass for a hand.
He looks like a male version of her.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, and it's like all campy and no.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, what are you gonna get when you see him?
I hope you can just get him with a rocking
band behind him playing his hits and the Van Halen hits.
That would be the way to go. I'm gonna guess
that's what you're gonna get. But you Yeah, we've seen
Dave come out on the Tonight Show and get do
a country version of Jump, so you just never know.
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So he interesting. I'd be interested to see it. I
think I'm just gonna not go to M three flight
across the country and see it. I'll just see Whateverboddy
films and puts it up on YouTube. I'm hoping he's great.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But yeah, I hope he is too. I was. I mean,
Van Halen was one of my top five bands back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Right, But expectations are really low for that one. But
we hope it's great.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So that's Saturday Sunday, May fourth. You have that soundcheck
Rock again and then Spread Eagle, which I've heard a
little bit of. They're pretty heavy.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I like Spritty though. I have a couple of albums.
There's one that's crazy and they're playing the whiskey I
think pretty soon I might just have to go and
see him because I really like one of their albums.
So yeah, they're a New York band, pretty heavy, sleazy,
heavy New York eighties eighty slash early nineties band. They're
really good.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Nice, So that's a good, good lead off to Sunday.
Then Vixen, which we've seen before at M three. They
do not suck.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
They don't suck, and they have a new lead singer
too nice and she is part one of the woman
females who performs with the uh the same thing that
Jeff Scott Soto does the Christmas.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Thing o Trans Sibery and Orchestra.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
She's part of that. She's a Canadian singer. I think
she's like fifty and she hasn't looked fifty and she's
a great singer. So maybe they're better than they ever were,
but they were always pretty good to begin with.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So oh yeah, I like them a lot. Yeah they
were great when we saw them.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah they're they're better live than they are on their albums.
Their albums are okay, they're better live.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh yeah, they're much harder.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Another artist I've seen to them three in the past
is lead of Ford she's next, and she's okay. I mean,
she has like five or six songs that she does
every time and then you know that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah. I hate kissing Me Deadly though.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh I hate that song too. I hate that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I hate the the mellow onese she did with Ozzie.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Close your eyes, pressure eyes, Yeah, close you that's forever. Yeah.
I don't really like those. Those are her biggest hits,
and I don't like either one of them, though I
do lick some of them more rock and tunes that
weren't hits. So when we saw her, we were entertained.
She was good her band, but you know it's not
somebody I had run out to see.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But after Lead the Ford is a band, or well,
afterly the Ford is when I'll go get dinner, because
that's when Great White comes on. I don't know, I mean,
Jack Russell was Great White.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
So what are they?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
What are they doing? They've had since Jack, right since
Jack Russell left the band and they split into two.
Obviously Jack has passed away. Now they've had like five
or six lead vocalists, and I guess they got some
young guy now in his twenties who can really sing
the stuff. I imagine they do a good job of it.
But you know, I like Great I like Great White
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when they were a heavy metal band. When they went
to blues bass, I was like, that kind of lost
me there. But they're not bad, just like you know,
they're not exciting either.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, but that's when I'll take a break.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Next up, I've seen a band I've seen a couple
of times, Warrant, who are always great.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, no problems with them. I don't know. I guess
three fists of them are there. Maybe they're gonna have
four fists. I don't know, but they're still solid live,
the songs translate well, and they're very entertaining. Robert Mason's
a great singer, so yeah, you know, you know, you
know what you're getting with them, So they're not gonna suck, nope.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Next is a guy I've seen a couple of times,
but I guess I only saw him with His band
is Ace Frehley, which will not suck for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You hope, Yeah, because it depends on what Ace comes out.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But yeah, sometimes Ace is great. His backing band is
a bunch of Nashville dudes and they're great. But you
see some video and Ace is like, Okay, it sounded
really I mean, we know Ace is not a great singer, yeah,
but you hope he picks the right tunes and he's
on his game. When he's on his game, he is
pretty damn good. But sometimes he's a little off, like
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the person who's coming after him. Sometimes they're really good
and sometimes they're not. But lately Ace has been like
hit or miss. So ya hope he's great. I mean
he's a legend and I'm a big fan, so yeah, yeah,
i'd be excited to see him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I would definitely like to see him, just you know,
it depends on what Jayce comes out. And then the
headliner for Sunday is Piercy and de Martini, who are
everybody knows two of the guys in Rat and they
are performing RAT songs.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So and this is a big deal because Dean Martini
hasn't been doing anything for years.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah yeah, he hasn't been a part of any any
incarnation of RAT. So so very interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Interesting. And I follow Jason Green and he's the tour
manager for Stephen Pearcy and the Stephen Piercy band is
really good, but from what I've heard, he's not using
the Stephen Piercy Band. He's gonna use Warren and three
other guys, and apparently they're all name guys. So I'm
a feeling these are gonna be different guys than the
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Stephen Piercy Band. So who knows? It hasn't been They
haven't said who it is yet, and everybody's thinking, could
it be Carlos Cavazo on second guitar, who's gonna play
bass and drums? I don't know. It's not gonna be
Blottso or any old rat guys, so who knows who
it can be. I'm gonna guess it's some guys who
live in all in Vegas are gonna practice there, so
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all Vegas based guys practice and then go out to
the show. So yeah, But the fact that Warren's playing
again is kind of cool because he hasn't played in years.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Is he playing now or is this gonna be one
of his first shows?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
This is gonna be his first show, we think, because
right now the Stephen Piercy Band is Johnny Monico from
Enough's Enough and those guys Matt Thorne and who is
there and the guy from Slaughter on drums, bloss Elias,
those guys is the Stephen Piercy band, but apparently this
is gonna be a different.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Group of guys, so well, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I'd be excited. And Steven Piercy's actually been sounding pretty good.
I guess he's cleaned up his life, not on the
drugs or the drink. And from my scene, he sounds
like he used to. He was never a great singer,
but at least he sounds decent now. And if you
got great guys behind you, it's gonna sound good. Just
kind of like Roth. If you got great guys behind you,
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it's gonna bring your game up. So you hope it's
gonna happen. You hope they're gonna be great. So if
I was in the area, I would go just to
see and hoping I would want to spend three hundred
dollars on a train wreck man. But yeah, there's a
there's enough good bands on that where I would be satisfied.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know when the headliners are if he I'm kind
of like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, because they're the longest sets.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, Because if it's gonna be bad, it's gonna be
bad for a.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
While, right, But our expectations would be low, so you
they're low and they're better than that, and you leave satisfied.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I guess, well, do you want to go to a
show and go, well, he wasn't that bad?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
No, I want to say, oh he was great?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So we're going this year, so I I probably would.
If I had to pick one day, I would probably
go Sunday, mainly for Ace because I think the last
time I saw him was with Kiss in seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Really, that's the last time I've seen him live. Yeah, wow,
I saw I've seen him solo a couple of times,
and I've seen him in Kiss when they came back
in ninety six. So I've seen him at least at
least four times, all right, and most of the time,
most time, every time i've seen him, he's been great.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
So well, okay, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's going to be interesting, that's what may second, third,
and fourth. Yeah, Maryland, i'd brother post. I'd be curious.
I have a feeling it's going to be packed for
that one. I mean, just David Lee Roth, just the
name alone, old van Halen. People would want to see
him just because he hasn't done anything in a while.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So yeah, I'd rather see Sammy and Michael and that,
you know, the best of all worlds too.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'd rather see that at M three Oh so huge,
so good.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But I don't think sam he's gonna take it on tour.
He's gonna do it in Vegas for a residency for sure. Yeah,
which that might be another reason to flowing out to
Vegas with the wife and yeah, you know, you know
that's only four hours for me. Yeah, I'd I'd be
into doing that things like that in the future, just
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putting it on, just put it out hard, just making
it known, all right. So from that on, while we
we wanted to, I came up with something off the
top of my head because, uh, everybody's talking about John
Sykes from Thin Lizzie and White Snake and Tigers and
how he passed away and all these guitar players are
talking about how influential he was and how great he was,
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and gotten me thinking like, what is some because I
got to see John Sykes. So I came up with
Danny and I are gonna do our top five guitarists
that we've seen in person at me an impact on us.
So we're gonna give you a list of the people
that we've seen them. I don't know what Danny's list is,
and he doesn't know what mine is, but I'm sure
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there's gonna be a couple of people that are the same.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Oh yeah, so obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So let's start off with the honorable mentions, Danny, who
are your honorable mentions for you? The guitarists that you've
seen live?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
See This is hard for me because I love seeing
good guitar players, and but I narrowed down to five
that are a pretty solid group. But then I had
three that were honorable mentions that I could not go
without mentioning.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
One I saw the most recently is Richie cottson Okay,
the guy's unbelievable just and he play He doesn't play
with a pick, he plays fingerstyle.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But good lord, the guy killed jam.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah. Doesn't Jeff Beck play like that too? Or didn't he? Yeah?
I know, Lindsay Buckingham does. To me that it seems
like it'd be harder, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Know, Well, it depends all depends on what you're used to,
you know, if you're.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It would it seems to me it would be easier if.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You're like a shredder to play with a pick, because
you can just you just get your wrist going and
you can really go fast. But if you can do
that with your fingers, like I saw a guy on Instagram,
Rick Piatto was interviewing him and he can do that
with his fingers, you know, just like play that fast
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fingertip fingerpicking and wow, yeah he's got all four fingers
going where most guys would need to pick to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But the Colson, his fingers must be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, So Richie Cottson's one of my honorable mentions. Another
one is Joe Bonamasaka that I saw. I actually met
the guy before the show. He was out signing autographs
and I was working that night. He was at the
Grand Grand Opera House in Wilmington and he was just
standing in front of this like backdrop of like his
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latest album. And at the time I was walking by,
it was between between people that were coming in to
say hi to him, and he just said, hey, how
you doing.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I said hey and shook his hand.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It seems like a regular dude.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Great guy, just you know, just unbelievable blues guitar player.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I've never seen him.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, he's he's great.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And then another guy I don't know if you know
who this guy is. His name is Leo Kottkey.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
He's a jazz guy right, more of a.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Folk kind of acoustic guitarist.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The guy is so so freaking good and I saw
him open for uh Jake Shimma Bakuru, who is a.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Shoot I've never heard of him either.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
As h I mean, if you can check out a
video Jake Shimmour playing. He does a version of Bohemian Rhapsody.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
On a band on a ukulele. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Wow, that sounds pretty.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Check it out and he did it live when I
saw him, and it's just but anyway, Leo. I couldn't
believe Leo Kocky was opening for this guy because Leo
is like a legend on on the six and twelve
string acoustic guitar. Okay, anyway, those are my three honorable mentions.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I got to see those guys. And that other guy
can't even pronounce his damn amer what's the ukulele player?
Do you see?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Jake shim Up Bakuru shum Up sh I've never heard
of He's Hawaiian, He's okay, a.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Ukulele, it's he. The guy is unbelievable. But also check
out the Leo Kocky and you ever I will. He's
it's a it's folk and it's acoustic. It's not hard
rock at all. But the guy, if we're talking greatest
guitar players that I've seen live, he is on the.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's he's on the If we were saying top ten,
he would be up there.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, out of out of your honorable mentions, the only
guy I've seen live. I saw Cottson with Poison. I
saw Cottson with mister Big and those. That was all
the time I've seen. I've never seen him and I
saw him in Winery Dogs, but I never saw him solo.
But yeah, he was always impressive every time. All right,
my honorable mentions, I don't know if you've seen, I
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know you've seen. Maybe I got five. First first one
was Ingay Malmstein. Okay, I saw him in at Alcatraz's
first show at the Country Club. Unbelievable speed.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Damn. I we saw him, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I don't know if we saw him together, but I
saw this the first Alcatrash show ever and he actually
tried it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Know, we we saw I think we saw a band
called a Little More.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
With Jeff Scott Soto.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yes, yeah, and it was like that was my connection
and that was that was Oh shoot, I can't remember
the guy's name on guitar.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
But he had braces at the time. He's very young.
Oh yeah, but I forgot who it was. Was it
a name guy? Later he becomes.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, he's not. He's not much of a name. He
still plays with Jeff Scott so in some of his bands.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Okay, uh shut, Gary Shutt. Okay, heard the name or
Shoot however you pronounce shoot anyway?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, all right, So ing the impressive, But problem with
VI is the music. I mean it's it's saey after
a while, like it can get a little boring. Yeah,
but it's it's impressive as hell to see. Next guy
Randy Rhodes. I saw him once Ozzy and okay him
Ozzy and Sarzo and uh the drum more with the
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hair what's his name? Oh my god, this is what
happens when you get sixty Tommy Aldridge that that lineup
with def Leppard opening, Yeah, at the time, nobody knew
who the hell he was, but he was impressive, and
I do like what I did, like what I saw,
but not enough to be in my top five.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
The next one is Paul Gilbert. Some people don't think
he's flashy, and he makes it look like it. He
makes it look easy. He's like a Bruce Culet guy,
doesn't look like he's working too hard, but he's really good.
So Paul Gilbert, and I think you've seen Paul. You
have you some Paul Steve Lucather I've seen total three times.
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Pressive as hell, can play anything. And recently I saw
Joe south Treanni for the first time played with Sammy Hagar. Okay,
pretty impressive. So yeah, he's on my he's my honorable
Those are my five honorable interests. Now i'd like to
also go ahead.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I could actually add Joe Satrianni because I saw him
played with Chicken Foot in Atlantic City and he was unbelievable.
I barely saw him though, because we were kind of
off to the side and he stayed near the back
near his amps, and so he came out a couple
of times. But it's like the bass player from Judas
Priest I know he was there, but I didn't see
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him much. But yeah, I could add him to one
of my Honorable mentions for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And to tie in to the the top five guitarists
that Danny and I both seen in person, well, I
also pulled up Rolling Stones two hundred and fifty guitars
of all time. They did a list in twenty twenty three,
and the people Danny mentioned none of those people are
on the top two fifty on my Honorable Mentions. Ing
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Day's not on the list, Paul Gilbert Stone on the list,
but Randy Rhoades is twenty one, Luca thur Is one
eighty six, and Josie I. Tronnis one twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, I remember that. Came out looking at that, going,
you gotta be kidding me? Oh yeah, But they put
Kurt Cobain on there, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh? They got some people. They're an absolute joke.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I'm as good as Kurt Cobain, I mean, and that's
not saying anything. That's that's a joke.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And there's there there are some worthy players on here,
but then there's some people like you gotta be who
are you serious?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Okay, anyway, getting back to it. So we're gonna do
our top five guitar players that we've seen in person.
So starting off right, Danny will give us his number five.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
All right, My number five, who I saw not too
long ago on their most recent tour is Paul Gilbert
with mister Big.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Guy, Guy's strict from a freaking amazing and he does
make it look so easy. That's probably why you think, well,
he's not really playing that, but just the intro to
Green ten and sixties mind blows me away.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And it's so clean when he plays it, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Is it clean when you try it?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
No? No, it sounds like a pile of crap when
I try it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So yeah, yeah, I just remember this because I've seen
Paul Gilbert obviously mister Big. I've also seen him in
Racer X and I saw his solo band played when
he had They all wore red jumpsuits like they were astronauts.
I saw them play a three piece oh opening for Europe.
It was it was great.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I did see him also as part of G three, okay,
and I remember because he played that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Spaceship one song.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, that was the tour I saw him on.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Oh Man so so freaking cool.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, and a great guy, super nice, super mellow, no
ego at all. All right, I agree with that. Paul
Gilbert's awesome. My number five is also kind of a
shreddered guy. Steve I. I saw Steve I Open four.
I saw Steve I in David Lee Ross Band, and
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I saw Steve I in White Snake. And what's the
guy's fantastic unbelievable. He can play anything, right, And you
saw him in G three as well. I mean probably
he was probably in G three when you saw him, right,
No he was not. Oh he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Have you seen him though, Satriani, Paul Gilbert and.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh shoot, the guy.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
In Zach wasn't Zach Wilde was No.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Wasn't Zach Wilder, Mike, it was a guy in Dream Theater.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh, I know you. I forgot his name already.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Blank Portnoy on the brain. But that's the drummer anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, okay, also quality dudes, and Steve I did make
the list at one twenty seven having Yeah, but Johnny
Ramon is way ahead of them.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh, oh my god. Yeah, that's just the popularity contest.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh, it's it's it's critics. They got a dude from
the B fifty two's too forty seven.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Come on, it's a joke.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh okay, anyway, all.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Right, so my number four was on your list also,
and I can't believe he's not higher on my list.
But as Steve Luca thar, I've probably seen Toto six
or eight times and he blows me away every time,
just freaking unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And they're on tour now.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
They're probably they're coming to Atlantic City, which isn't too
far there with Christopher Cross and men at Work.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Which I might go. I'm yeah, Sylvie wants to go.
I might go to that. They're playing the Form of
all places. Oh wow, okay, had a huge venue. Hopefully
sell it out. But yeah, because they've always been a
club band every time I've seen them, I've never seen
him in a huge vine. I saw them open. I
saw him at Meriweather Post on the Total four tour
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with Frank in the Knockouts, and that's probably the biggest
venue I've seen him, and everything else has been small venues.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I've seen them ranging from on the back of a
semi trailer in the in the middle of a corn field,
uh to opening in a opening for Journey in a
giant stadium.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And the guys. I just finished his book. I listened
to his book. It was unbelievable. The guy's worked from
would work with everybody. I was going to give you
a rapid fire question about it's going to give you
four female vocalists who, uh he's worked I give you
four female vocalists name named the one who didn't he
didn't work with. So check this out. I'll give you.
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I'll give it to you now, all right, Barbara Streiss
and share Celine Dion and Olivia Newton John which one
has he not worked with?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'll say Celine Dion, correct, Yeah, all those other ones.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
He's worked with everybody.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
At the back of his book he has a discography
of everybody who's played with.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It goes on for like thirty pages. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, and you know what he can shred, but lots
of time he just plays to the song. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I followed you on Instagram and after what was supposed
to be the last Toto show in Philly where he
had David Page come out and they played Africa and
all that, and it was supposed to be the last
Toto show, so Dana got.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Me tickets for it. We had great seats.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
He said afterwards that he apologized for overplaying, but he
just couldn't help it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I was like, shit, overplay all night for all I care.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
That was awesome, right, And you know what they they're
just on with the whole yacht rock thing. They're just
I mean, they're bigger than they ever were, so you
got to keep going. I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I don't even know who's in the band anymore. I'm
sure they're all great, so I know.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
He's the only one. He's He and Joe Williams.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I mean, Joe Williams is an original, but he's he's
one of the only remaining guys left.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I don't know who's on drums. I don't know who
was the playing the keyboards. I don't know. I'm sure
David Pace will come out of the LA show, but.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, probably Yeah. I think Greg phil and Jesus is
playing or Flangy's or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I know what he is, Yeah, he's he's.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Keyboards, and I think, uh, some guy named Shannon is
playing drums and the same guy is doing like sacks
and horns and stuff. Okay, but I don't know anybody else,
all right.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
So you know, you know I'm not gonna stink. Okay,
all right, My number four has not been mentioned yet,
but I'm sure he might make your list, all right.
An No Bettencourt from Extreme He is unbelievable. We've been
fans since album one. We've both seen him multiple times,
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and then we saw him on the last tour. He
was great. Then he was great in the first album
all the way through. Oh yeah, he's just he's he
is the guy. Now. I think since Edward passed away,
people are looking for a guitar hero, and they're kind
of looking at Nuna a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I mean, what after that last album and some of
the solos on that album, it's no no wonder people
are looking at him as the the next guy.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Right. He's amazing. You can't see anything bad about him,
and he did make the list. Rolling Stone got it right.
He's one ninety seven. I see who's better than Let's
see who's better than him? Oh you know, right in
front of him is James Taylor. Oh, James Taylor. Okay,
and the guy and the guy in front of him
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great Gain from Black Flag.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
See you can imagine when I'm going through that list
what I'm thinking. You know these guys that are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
The guy from Black Flag.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah. When I think of Greek guitar playing, I think
of Black Flag. Okay, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
All right, So that that was your number four.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the other three then geez. Okay,
So my number three that I've seen multiple times.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Is Eddie van Halen.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
He had three. Wow. Okay, well you haven't heard my
one and two yet, so that's surprising. But okay, but.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, what are you going to say?
I've seen him in all incarnations. I saw him with
David Lee Roth back in the day. I saw him
with Sammy Hagar, saw him with Gary Sharon, saw him
back with with David Lee Roth and.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Should have stopped before that, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Right, Yeah, I've seen him. I saw him mostly with Roth.
Never got to see him with Sammy and I did
and he was great with Sharon. Yeah, he's influenced everybody.
What I mean, he actually made the list? Shocking huh
he's number four. Okay, all right, Well that that's respectable,
said Rolling Stone, got that right. He should be in
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the top five.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, so I'm sure. I'm sure Jimmy Hendrix and Jimmy
Page are up there.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah. Well, I can tell you my top three. Two
of my top three didn't make the list.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Oh Jesus, see the Rolling Stone list is a joke.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, they stink all right. My number three I've seen.
I saw him. I only I saw him with Thin
Lizzy when he fronted Thin Lizzy in the nineties. That
is John Sykes. Oh man, he was unbelievable. I saw
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him the Key Club in Hollywood, which was Gazzaries before
that and it became the Key Club. I was three
feet in front of the dude.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Jeezuz.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
The tone was unbelievable. People were losing their minds. The
place was over sold. And I what I've heard of
from about John Sykes when all these people are giving
their eulogies, that John didn't believe that anybody thought he
was any good or you know, he he John Sykes
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like Johns.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I'd like to talk to the I'd like to talk
to these people, and thought he wasn't any good.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
No, no, no, John Sykes didn't think that people thought he
was any good. He didn't have he didn't have an ego.
I didn't realize how much people loved him. He didn't
understand that, which.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Is I don't know what David Coverdial did to the guy.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
But yeah, it was I think that just killed his ego.
And then when Blue Murder didn't blow up like it
was supposed to, I think he just he just didn't.
It's like, oh, what do I have to do? You know?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Man?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Blue Murderer had their first albums such a cold following.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
That's a classic.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Oh yeah, and the guy was fantastic. But the funny
thing is the last time I saw John Sykes was
at Costco and Northridge and with that's John Sykes.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Oh my god, have the hair.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
He had a hat on, but you can you could
see the hair too. I mean he wasn't dressed like
he was a rock star. He's dressed down to kind of.
But I shot saw my god, I worshiped this guy.
He was great. And when you hear Zach Wild play,
you can tell you influenced by John Sykes.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's what's it called squelts that noisy makes? I forgot?
You know? When he plays it's a pin tarmonic pin
tarmonic so yeah, Sykes did that first. Yeah, and then
you hear Zach plays Zach does it like okay, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
He Obviousach Zach overdoes it, but he does it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, but still pretty cool here.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, it's funny because it's not hard to do at
all now, just but it's like a trick that once
you learn it, it's like, oh okay, well that that's it.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It's easy to do, but sounds cool.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, agreed, A right, all right.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Well I never got to see him, so that's a bummer.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, so you're number what's your number two?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
My number two? I saw?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oh man, it had to have been early nineties or
late eighties. No, it was late eighties, I guess. And
that's Gary Moore.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Gary Moore. You saw Gary Moore than nineteen three?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
First time it would have been, yeah, because he was
opening for Crocus and def Leppard.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Correct, Yeah, Danny and I were sitting together for that.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah. It was a corridors of power, unbelievable. Just yeah,
I don't the rest of the guitar players on that
bill should have just said, okay, well good night, y'all
have seen it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
So what was cool was def Leppard were fans of
Gary Moore. So they brought him on the tour, so
he got all the sound and all the lights as
all the other bands did. Dany and I just sat
there and went because we didn't know anything about it.
We knew who he was and he was within Lizzy.
We didn't know any of the songs, nothing. We just
had looked looked at you like, oh my god, this
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guy's unbelievable. Became Yeah, we keep fans. We were fans
on that day. Oh yeah, hooked for life.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I think that day I think we went and got
his catalog or in the next couple of days we
is that. Okay, we're getting everything he did with them, Lizzie.
We're getting is all of his solo stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah. Oh just I mean, and guess what Gary Moore given.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
All that blue stuff, all the blue stuff he did
was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah. I got to see that tour. I saw him
on when he did the Still Got the Blues tour.
It was great. But you know, I got tired of
the blue stuff pretty quick. I'm just not a big
blues guy. I like the rock stuff, the eighties rock stuff.
But yeah, still all right, so number yeah, so Gary
Moore is in front of Edward van Halen. Okay, I
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could see that Gary was pretty great.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I mean, these all five of these guys, I mean
they could be in the order pretty much.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But Gary's You're two, one or two. My number two
is Edward van Halen, Okay, the same reason as you said.
I mean I got to see him first on the
Van Halen two tour in Germany, and I remember making
all those noises before the band came on, you know,
the elephant noise. Yeah, and all the Germans and the
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American people just going bonkers and just couldn't wait to
hear it, and they hit the stage. They just blew
us away. The place was packed, prob about two thousand people.
We were just knocked out. And I think I was
fourteen or fifteen. That was it. I was hooked right there. Yep,
first come, first concert. I've loved hard rocking to heavy
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metal ever since, and all goes back to that day
as a kid.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh, it's so good. I mean even in the last
time I saw him, he was great. So yeah, that's
my number two. So both of us mentioned him, and
of course he's number four on the list.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, and then my number one. We've already talked about.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Is Nuno Bettencourt number one.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, the guy just he's so damn good. He can
play anything. He's so melodic. I mean, he's not up
with the melodic level of Steve Lucater, but he can
play that. He can shred and his chops are unreal. Yeah,
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just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
And he's after all these years, he's still great.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
And if you haven't got Extreme six, go get it.
It's an amazing album, different styles of music. The guitar
playing is out of this world. You have to see
this guy. I mean, even when he does his little jams,
he's still creating, play anything. There's nothing he can say
bad about it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, there there's one part.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Most of the times I've seen him, and I've seen
Extreme probably six or eight times too, and he's he's
just ripping off this killer solo and he does it
all the time. But he'll be up at the front
of the stage dripping his solo and then kind of
yawning and pretending like he's bored, and you know, kind
of he does it through I'll play with me like
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he's bored, and we just look at his fingers flying,
like really, we don't believe you?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
What?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Oh may Yeah, I'm just playing this Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, unreal amazing. Okay, so what do you think my
number one is?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
H Gary Moore?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Gary Moore is my number one? I mean I was
a fan and when we were sitting in the Cap
Center before Crocus and def Leppard on the Pyromania tour,
Gary Moore blew our minds. And I saw him again
in Washington, d C. Were you there with me? It
was on the Wild Frontier tour. I know, Griff Harrison
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was there with me. Were you there also? I don't
think so, so yeah, maybe I was in college. Okay,
so yeah, I took Griff to see Gary Moore and
it was with a Wild Frontier band, Bob Daisley on bass,
Eric Singer on drums, and Neil Carter on second guitar
and keyboards. That band blew my mind. I saw them there.
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It wasn't it wasn't the nine thirty club, but it
was the other club in DC. I forget the name
of it.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Oh, not the nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It was the famous It was a little bigger than
nine thirty club.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I saw Butch Walker in that club. I know
what exact one you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I can't remember it. I don't know. I'm gonna guess
it's still there.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
But yeah, it was a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, but uh. And then I saw that same tour
when he played all the places, the Roxy in front
of three hundred people, and everybody was in there with
somebody because Tracy Gunn says he was there. I saw
black and blue in there everywhere. Everybody around me was
in a band to see Gary Moore in a place
that held three hundred people and there's a little chunky
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Gary Moore right in front of you, sweat and his
balls off. I mean it wasn't a handsome man, but
the guy. I mean I was literally three feet from
him watching him sweat all over us and the band
was on fire. He was on fire. I think he could.
He was so happy because people are losing their minds.
It was so great. And the final time I saw him,
(45:12):
I saw him in the biggest vent, one of the
bigger venues is a headlining Still got the Blues when
he played blues at this place, and half the people
there probably didn't even know he had a rock career
because I talked to people. Gary Moore, you got his
I was like, no, I just heard this guy was good,
so I just I like this still got the blue song. Yeah,
they had no idea he had a history. But you know,
(45:35):
they had these things at Universal Amphitheater where if you
buy you could buy five concerts and for a discount
of price, and probably these people bought probably about all
these other ones they went to and Gary Moore he
he could be good.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I'm gonna go he's a good guitar player. Huh.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
So. Yeah, the people initially were like, Okay, this guy's good,
but this went on and on and on and on.
They really got into it because like, wow, they were
blown away. He was great. But I didn't love his
blue stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, that stuff gets kind of old. I mean after
a while, you're like like a bay stuff. Okay, yeah
you're really fast. Yeah you're still really fast.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
And what stinks with John Sykes and Gary Moore is
Gary Moore was in the process of doing another rock album.
He's gonna go back to rock. Oh really so yeah
that was the thing, and then he ties in that
was he he drank himself to death I think in
a hotel room in Spain. Yeah, he was about to
(46:34):
do another rock album, and Sykes has already recorded a
rock album. He just never put it out. I don't know.
It was supposed to come out in Golden Robot years ago.
So there's an album and can we just never heard it.
So maybe maybe his I know he's got kids, maybe
his family will put it out. You know that'd be nice.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Oh yeah, I wish.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I'll be the just want to get it. Yeah. So though,
that's our top five guitarists that we've seen in person,
and you know, hopefully you guys people have seen some
of these people. And if there's some guys out there,
yeah I haven't seen yet, go see them because you're
not gonna be around forever.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Yeah yeah, who knew?
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Who knew?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
John Sykes was even sick.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah. Three of my five guitar players are dead now,
My top three are dead. Unbelievable. And I never got
to see Jeff Beck, and I heard he was amazing.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, I would like to have seen Jeff Beck.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, not a fan of his musics per se, but
what I've seen them from videos with a young female
bass player, it was impressive.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Oh yeah, the guy is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah and cool.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
You know when you get all these really famous musicians
like Alice Cooper and stuff talking about the best guitar
player they know, they all say Jeff Beck. Yeah, so
it's not it's I don't think it's unfounded.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
So and also Gary Moore is not on the top
two hundred and fifty guitar players list, but the guitar
player and the Cramps is on there.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Oh okay, well the Cramps, Yeah I understand that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
When I think great guitar playing, I think of the Cramps.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
What a see that? This? You know that has that
holds about as much worth as the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Oh oh, here's another one. Johnny Thunders is on there,
John Thunder, Johnny Thunders and the New York Dolls. When
I think are great guitar players, I think of the
New York Dolls.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
No, when I think of Johnny Thunders, I think a
heroin exactly. I don't think a great guitar playing. You know. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
It's like they came up with this list off of
just okay, well let's see who. Let's go look at
your album collection. See what albums you go?
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Oh, you have a New York Oh yeah, let's put
him on there.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Oh, here's another one. That one namee Danita Sparks from
L seven, Peter Buck from em.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Who are in the top ten on that list?
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Okay, I mean the top ten is let's see just
some of these names. There's some names that are on
there that are way too high or they're okay, the
top ten, all right, Ten is Dwayne Almond from the
Almon Brothers. Okay, get that, okay. Number nine is Joni Mitchell,
(49:31):
and I think are great guitar players. I think of
Joni Mitchell, Jony Mitchell, beautiful voice, nice songwriter. I don't
think they're a great guitarist. Mind blowing, No, okay? Number
eight bb King, okay, legend, I give him that, all right.
Number seven Nile Rogers from chic Great guitar player, but
(49:52):
I don't think unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Wouldn't say top ten.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
But respectable. Is he better than Gary Moore? No? All right?
Number six sister Rosetta Tharp. I'm gonna guess that's an
old blues player from the thirties.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Or forties, isn't that? It wasn't some nun?
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah I could, yeah, I think so. Why Why do
you and number six but not Gary Moore.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Six guitar player in the history of the world. Is
some lady we've never heard of?
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah, not not not Gary Moore who they brought out
to play with David Gilmore on National TV and doing
my guitar gently weeps and he did the solo. Prince
did it too, but Gary Moore also did it. They
didn't call these other people. Five is Jeff Beck, okay,
(50:44):
get it? Fourth and Van Halen. Three is Jimmy Page, Okay, okay,
Jimmy Page. Influential for sure, a little sloppy for my taste,
but still great guitar player. Number two Chuck Berry obviously
for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Well, he was an original, was he's a good guitar player.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
And just because he influenced everybody after him, so he
got to.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, but he had the one the one stick the banana.
Listen to it like you could do an album and
eight out of ten songs start with that little riff.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, they're all similar because he Yeah, that's all he got, that's.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
All that's that's his his. And did you hear the
story and the Steve look at their book about that? Yes,
he said Steve Luke at their home because I don't
play with other guitar players. Yeah, all right, Well you
don't want to get shown up, is what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
And number one Jimmy Hendricks.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Correct, Yeah, you can't fault that, so yeah, oh don't.
And number seventeen mother Mabel Carter from the Carter family. Who.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, Yeah, that list is a joke.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I mean I looked through it. I looked that every
one of them and just a joke.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, Neil Young is thirty. Is Neil Young a good
guitar player?
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Ew?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
No, sloppy as hell. He's a better songwriter than his
guitar player. But you know, here's what I thought of.
I don't know if he's on here, but Glenn Campbell,
Glenn Campbell was a great guitar player.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Uh he he should be up there along with Roy Clark.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Roy Clark is an amazing guitar player. I'm not gonna
go through here, but not Roy Clark has to be
on that list. I watched them. There's a video on
YouTube of Glenn Campbell playing Gentle on my Mind with
a bund He's so. Roy Clark is there too, Willie
Nelson is there. There's a whole bunch of country out
is sitting there and he plays the solo and he's
on an acoustic. You're going, oh my god, look at
(52:51):
the speed on this. This is Glenn Campbell.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
You know, when you when you have when you have
Roy Clark and and Willie Nelson watching you play a solo.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
You know you're good.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
I think Jerry otherwise they'd be like, eh.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
I think Jerry Reid was there too. I mean all
top notch country dudes. We all know Rick Clarke was worldly,
he's a legend, and Glenn clar I mean, finally people
are starting to notice claim Campbell. I mean the musicians
already knew about him, but everybody else. All right, we've
gone on a tangent.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Oh he was.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
He was part of the Wrecking Crew before he went
out and did the Ryanstone Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I highly recommend that documentary, The Wrecking Crew,
all those people.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, amazing
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