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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On your Mark. Get ready start broadcasting from California and Delaware.
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This is the Hard Rocking Trivia Show and here're your
host Mark and Danny.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hi, everybody, Welcome to a new episode of The Hard
Rocking Trivia Shows. It's a special edition. I'm actually in California.
I'm sitting in Mark's office and we've done a lot,
but we're going to talk about two specific things that
we did. What was the last Thursday? We went to
see John Oates, who is half of Haull and Oats
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in Valencia, no Ventura, Ventura, whatever, these places all it's
all one big, gigantic city that turns into another city,
but into another city. So Mark and his wife Sylvia
and I went and see saw John Oates and we
had just kind of I guess general admission seats but
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to the pit, which was cool. I didn't have any
idea what to expect, but we walk in and there's
just chairs in a big area in the theater holds.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
About holds about twelve hundred, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So and it was cool.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It was the name of the of the Majestic Ventura
Theater and Mighty Ventura, California.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, it was beautiful. Cool, very cool city, but or
town or whatever they call it here. We took the
four five to the Winter five, to the four oh
five again and then to the one sixty eighth, then
on the five.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I have no idea, but he actually took the one
twenty six to the one oh one and got off
in California Avenue.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay. So anyway, so we get in there and there
just happens to be three seats in the very middle
of the front row, which was who awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, we initially we got pit seats, you'd like, got
fifty three dollars apiece. This was I think this was
a last minute show announcement. So there was probably what
one hundred and fifty people there.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Maybe, Yeah, maybe one hundred and fifty sounds about right.
I wasn't really paying attention to what was going on
behind us, but you know, being in the front row,
the little people behind us that can do whatever they're doing.
But yeah, it was very, very cool. So John Oates
comes out and he's looking good. Looks you know, like
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John Oates that you would think of.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, he looks really short.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, he's definitely short. But so he had a band
with a drummer that had a very sparse kit. He
had one of those boxes that he sat on and
used a foot pedal for his bass drum to hit that.
Then he had a steel guitar guitar player. He played
steel guitar and regular guitar, and then he had a
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cello player who was actually playing the bass lines. He
didn't use a bow much, but he did it at
some points. But yeah, sound the band sounded awesome. Of course,
John played an acoustic guitar the whole time.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, people don't realize that that that Hall of Oates team.
John Oates is just as talented as you know Darryl Hall.
And what we got with this particular show is we
got covers, We got John Oates solo stuff and of
course some Hall of Oates tunes, and the guy sounds awesome.
He can sing his ass off, but in Hall of
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Notes you really don't hear him singing that often.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, he's pretty much doing harmonies and stuff it sounds like.
But he sounded great even on the Hall of Oats stuff.
You really didn't miss Darryl Hall, at least I didn't.
And it was most of the songs we did not know,
you know, the old covers of guys. We like a
John Prime cover. I don't know if any of you
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know John Prime, but he's a singer songwriter guy, kind
of acoustic country.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Can't name one song, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So, but most of the most of the other songs
were some of his solo stuff. He went back to,
like the sixties. I guess then he did what was
what was the artist that he ended with?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh, he did a couple of medley of a Smokey
Robinson songs that everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, and they I think he did like three songs
and all the harmonies they were great. I mean the
guitar player and the drummer sang harmonies to John Celli
player didn't sing at all, but that maybe for a reason,
but anyway, it didn't matter because the harmonies were fantastic.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, And the cool thing about this particular gig is
John Oates talks about each song. He gives you old
background on it. I mean, the sing's a song, which
it makes it even a cooler experience because we didn't
know these songs at all.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah. There was one song by two blues guys that
he talked all about, but he talked about how they
had a relationship and then the relationship with Sour and
they didn't talk to each other, and the crowd kind
of started laughing, and he said, what, what would you
guys know something or you think I would be.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Aware of that. Yeah, he knew what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
He totally But that was really cool. He talked about
Daryl Hall, but he didn't talk He only talked about
him in the fact that they wrote this song or
they were in this location writing this song. He didn't
talk anything about their relationship or the anything going forward
with Hall and Oates. So it was cool. I wouldn't
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want him to like be out there bashing Daryl Hall,
because what's that going to do?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Cool thing about this particularly and if you get a
chance to see this, go out and see it. You're
not gonna get a bunch of Hall notes hits the
whole night to singer songwriter type deal. Small venues, like
I said, he's probably playing weird places, like he's not
playing La He's playing Ventura, which is sixty miles away.
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So small club, go see it. It was totally worth it.
We had a good time.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, Yeah, it was really cool. Even though we didn't
know many of the songs. It was still great to
see somebody so talented and doing what he loves to do.
That was obviously he loved doing.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It so on that. No, that's not the reason why
Danny flew all the way across the country from Delaware
to Valencia, California. He came for another reason, just to
see me, right, No, now, he actually came all the
way out to see a band from Stockholm, Sweden called
Eclips that both of us are big fans of. He's
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a more he's a bigger fan than I am. I
really like the band, but he loves this band, so
I think this was the second time they've ever played
the States. Besides the Monsters Are Rock Cruises. So last night,
Sunday night, we got to drive out from Valencia to
West Hollywood to the Whiskey, which holds about five hundred
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people to see Eclips it in such a small little
venue and was pretty cool. Is this was like the
day after the Monsters Are Rock Cruise finished, so some
of the people in the audience were from the Monsters
Rock Cruise. But the band flew out here, came in
two in the morning, and played the next day.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, they got into La around two, they said, and
then played that night, and they talked a little bit
about how there was some jet lag going on. But
we started the night. We drove out Hollywood and then
went up to the Rainbow, the Rainbow Bar and Grilled
to get some dinner. We got a pizza which was
really good barbecue chicking if you're interested. Yeah, so really
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it was a It was good and it was cool
because the service was kind of slow, which we didn't
care of. I'll care about at all because it was
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
The service sucked.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah. Well, if we had been sitting like just like
an Applebee's or something, we'd be pissed. But you're sitting
in the middle of all this rock paraphernalia, everything from
cymbals from the Guns and Roses drummer, to guitar signed
by Eddie Van Halen, Billy Sheen's bass, probably about a
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million pictures just on stage, a lot of pictures of
people in in the Rainbow. So if you're a fan
of music, like particularly hard rock music, you gotta go there.
We saw the place where let Me Hang hung out
and a statue of him right right beside where he
would sit there and play his video poker or whatever
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it was.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Let me at the lem Me stature. There's also a cigarette,
a new cigarette in his mouth at all times, which
is kind of cool. You can get, you can go,
and it's in the outdoor bar. The place itself is
pretty small, the rain I don't know the inside the
Rainbow probably doesn't hold more than fifty people, it seems like,
but they're always they're blasting music. I think we heard
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mostly nineties metal with they were playing olymp Biscuit and
Drowning Pool and what else were they playing stuff like that,
But it was entertaining. It's not really my thing, but
it was nice to hear hard rock music as you're eating.
Of course, I don't think our wives would have liked
it at all.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh no, no, no, no she I think I think
Dana would have enjoyed being there and seeing all the
Memorabilion stuff. But the music it's too loud, too hard,
just you know, it's not the Carpenters or Olivia Newton
John so no. So, so we kind of hung out there.
We walked by the whiskey just to see when the
bands were gonna play, and we saw that Eclipse was
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coming on at ten fifteen, Like okay, where that's a
little bit past our bedtime, but we'll we'll handle it.
So then we went up to Rainbow and kind of
took our took our time, had some pizza that came
back and saw the first well it was actually the
third band of the night, but we missed the first
two kind of on purpose. The name of the band
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that we saw, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
This was a Sweet Corvette.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Sweet Corvette. And they got through the first song and
I'm like, oh my god, this is horrible, and it
got I think they were a joke band, but at
first I wasn't really getting the joke and I was
just like, this is horrible, It's terrible. What what the
hell are they doing? And you know they it was
hard rock, but the singer was kind of more punk
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on the punk.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Side, right, I mean, when your chorus has to do
with nick I saw Nikki six at the mall. You know,
it's kind of a joke band. I mean, was it great? No?
Is it entertaining? Kind of? But you know, I guess
we expected a better band to be opening for Eclipse.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah. I take my rock very seriously, except for Steel Panther.
I love those guys. But anyway, you know, I wanted
to see a good up and coming band. But this
was We're never gonna hear anything from Sweet Corvette again.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, but you can go on Spotify and check out
Sweet Corvette. They actually have music on there. If you
don't believe us, check it out one of the Another
one of those songs is about vacation in Florida. I mean,
it was hard to take them seriously. I don't think
they take themselves seriously, but I guess they're I guess
that's what they're going for.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah. Another song was Let's go to the Rainbow Bar
and grill right now. Just I don't know I was
in the mood for an actual band, but you know whatever,
I think we've already spent too much time on this band,
So okay, moving.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
On, moving on, move on, all right. Next thing, next
up band was a Clips. They came on about what
ten thirty, And usually when you see a band at
the headlining band at the Whiskey, usually you'll get maybe
eighty ninety minutes. We got close to two hours of tunes.
It was pretty great.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, they were so good. I mean, their singer, Eric
Martins is unbelievable. He's tons of energy, just can sing
his ass off, he plays guitar. The guitarist is really good,
magnus something.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Magnet sweetish something.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah. The drummer's very entertaining. He's really good. He's not
just a four on the floor kind of guy. But
and the bass player was cool. He sang a lot
of backup.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah. The the rhythm section seems like they were really
in their young They look like they're in their twenties.
And then then you got the two main guys who
were a little older. I mean, I guess Ericon Martinson's
probably late thirties, maybe early forties. Possibly. The guitar players
probably in the same Yeah, but the other guys looks
like they're in their twenties.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well, Eric looks like he's about twelve, but he's been
doing e clips for quite a while. And they they
were amazing. The only drawback that I have with the
show is that they didn't play my favorite song, Bleed
and Scream, But you know, what can you do? They played.
They ended with Viva la Victoria, which was awesome. A
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lot of sing along songs, a lot of a lot
of crowd participation.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I think a lot of these people, I mean,
it was obviously a lot of Eclipse fans there from
the Monsters, Rock Crews, a lot of sing along stuff,
so it had been strange if nobody knew the lyrics,
but it seems like everybody there knew the songs, so
which made it the experience a lot, a lot more
fun to be a part of. And the Yeah, I
knew about sixty percent of the songs, but the ones
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I didn't know. After hit the chorus a couple of times,
singing right along, It's pretty It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, everybody was singing along with all the songs. This
was definitely a crowd of fans. It wasn't just like, hey,
let's go see eclips I've heard of them, but no,
everybody knew the songs and you could tell they were
genuinely moved by the crowd reaction they got because the
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first time they've ever played in LA so they were
excited about it. Then it showed and it was if
for some reason you get a chance to go see
these guys, absolutely do it. I don't think you will,
particularly if you're in the US, because on this tour
they played once in Oregon last year and then this show,
and those are the only two US shows but they
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played all over the place, South America, Japan, all over Europe,
particularly Scandinavia.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It was really really great show. Yeah. The one thing
I'm concerned about with bands like this is that have
lots of background vocals. It's thinking, oh, guys, can you
guys pull it off live, and these guys did, or
the other thing I'm thinking, oh god, they're gonna be
having piped in background vocals. No, there wasn't. That wasn't
the case at all. The only thing piped in was
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the keyboards in the background, because they obviously were only
a four piece, so there it's no keyboard player there.
But they were all playing. They were all singing. Every
song could have been a hit. It should be a hit.
It's ridiculous that these guys are so good. Every song
has a chantal on chorus and gets stuck in your
head and you're walking around singing the damn song. This morning,
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I'm walking taking a shower singing a damn e Clips
song in my head.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So yeah, we were walking back to the car singing
Viva Love Victoria. Mark's daughter is Dave Victoria, so we
should have we should have played that for her. But
there was a surprise in the kind of the middle
of the show. Uh, if you've ever been to the Whiskey,
there's a staircase that the band comes down from, like
the green room is upstairs, and they come down a
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staircase against a wall and the staircase goes right on
the stage. Well, they're they're in between songs, and down
down the stairs comes Jeff's got soda with four shots
or I guess five shots at tequila. So he passes
those out and everybody's screaming, you know, because he's he's
good friends with Eric Martinson because they playing Wet together,
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who hopefully has a new album coming out. All right, cool,
So he gave them, he gave them all shots, and
he's like, thanks for supporting my buddies their first time
at the Whiskey. So that was really cool. And then
everybody starts chanting wet, wet, wet, wet, wet, and he's like, no, no, no,
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this is this is eclipse time. But then Eric Martinson
started playing a wet song and so's Jeff said, okay, okay,
just a little bit. So I don't know what wet
song it was, I don't remember, but they sang it
and it was very cool. They sang like the first
verse and the chorus and then then that was it.
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Jeff was like, get back to the Eclipse.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Wait, you didn't know the song and you're the big
Wet fan. I mean, I have the albums and I
know it's good. I didn't know the song at all,
but it sounded great.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I didn't know what song it was. It was
just Eric playing acoustic for for them to be singing
along too, so it sounded like a great song. I mean,
I know I love Wet, but you know, I don't
know them well enough to to know what song that was.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, you know, the show was fantastic. When I'm hoping
for in the future, bands like this and other bands
to come to the Whiskey, come on down and maybe,
like a band like Eclipse, maybe start playing the bigger cities.
Go to New York, go to Philadelphia, Washington, d C.
And Atlanta. Check try them out a little bit, and
if they get people come and see them, maybe they
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can do it, you know, just play the instruments, you know,
like they were playing the Whiskeys instruments except for the
guitars and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But yeah, the drum set was the Whiskey's drum set.
All the guitars were going direct through the PA no amps.
They had their sound, their their pedal boards, but their
own guitars. But other than that they may have only brought,
like I know, the guitar player. The bass player only
played one guitar all night. Eric played three different ones.
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He played a Gibson, BC Rich and then Martin Acoustic
and that was all he had. Yeah, you could tell
the drum set was from the Whiskey because the logo
on the bass drum was Whiskey Go Go, not Eclipse.
So well, I'm sure most of that gear is somewhere
in Miami waiting to get shipped back to Sweden because
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I bought a shirt and on the back of the
shirts the tour tour listing and last night looked like
it's the last night of the tour. So maybe they're
heading back to Sweden today, who knows.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So they're probably going into wet mode. So if you
get a chance out there, people, go see Eclipse. They're awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yep, who knows when that's going to be, but anyway,
definitely go see them there. They're an amazing band. Well,
since you're probably not going to get a chance to
see them. Definitely buy their stuff, check them out.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And on that note, let's go to a quick commercial break.
All right, boys and girls, it's time for rapid fire
in person. All right, people, this is a bit we
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call rapid fire, but this time it's a little bit different.
Danny and I are actually sitting right next to each other,
and we didn't research these questions at all, completely off
the top of our heads, so these questions probably won't
be as difficult. But hey, maybe they're difficult for you
at home or in Grandma's basement or whoever the heck
you are driving a truck across the country. So Danny,
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are you ready for rapid fire?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I guess I have two questions at the top of
my head. I'll have to think of a third one,
but yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Question one for you, Danny, when Thin Lizzie broke up
Phil and Not formed a new band, what was the
name of the band?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Are you thinking grand Slam?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Correct me, go me all right?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Like you said, this may be easy, okay, mark Question
number one for you? Can you name at least three
singers in Toto?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Lead singers in Toto? Oh God, I can see their faces.
One of them is mister Joseph Williams.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's correct, all.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Right, Fergie Ferguson, that is correct. Number three, the most
obvious one, and I can there was that big, giant
black guy from South Africa. I don't remember his name,
but that's not what I'm thinking. I'm thinking of the
guy with the mustache kind of on the first and
my friend knows them, Greg knows them. What is his name? Oh,
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my God, give me, give me, Oh, I got it now.
His name is Bobby Kimball.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That is correct, great job. And the other guy was
John John Bouvier, was it? I think that's his name. Yeah,
I'd have to look it up.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Is the guy from the Plasmatics?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Now it's something or John Sean something.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
But for some reason, when I read Luke at this book,
it really didn't work out with that guy.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
N not not at all. He didn't fit. He didn't
fit the Toto kind of mold or whatever you want
to say. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Question number two, all right, Frehley's comment time. What you
remember was Ace Freeley's band when he left Kiss and
there was his guitar player was a guy named Todd Holworth.
Can you name the band he came.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
From, Todd Holworth? Was he in Heart?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Incorrect? He was not in Heart. He was in a
band that had one big it and actually two big hits,
well one big one and one minor one. But Todd Holworth,
the name of his band is also a number.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I have no idea seven O seven.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Seven O seven? Geez, I don't know. That was the
only band I can think of. It was just a number.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Can you remember this hit? The big hit that they had,
seven oh seven?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
No, No, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I could be good to you really, And the other
one was Mega Force.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I could be good to you. That's not that wasn't
covered by Tina Turner?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Was it? No the Mega Force or no? I No,
you're thinking of a different song. But if I played
it for you later, you know it. But Mega Forest
was actually recorded for Frayley's comments first album, which turned
into Calling to You.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Okay, all right, now you know, all right, let's see
question two for you. Okay, what guitar maker did Eddie
van Halen use when he decided to uh make a
signature model guitar?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Oh my guess is pev.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, that isn'tcorrect?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
All right, give me another. It's not Gibson or Fender,
is it?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
No? No, it's a guy's name.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's a guy's name, yamaha. Uh no, Uh, what's the
what's the first letter of the word? E? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You saw you saw one of these last night? Is No,
that's an eye.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Shoot starts an e epiphone.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
No, that's an off shooting Gibson. It was Ernie Ball, yep,
Ernie Ball. And that's that's one I have. And that's
the one we saw last night in the whiskey or
in this in the Rainbow that was signed by Eddie.
So there you.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Go, all right. I just I just had question number
three pop into my head here, okay, all right? Joe
Joe Perry left Aerosmith in the late seventies and he
recorded three albums. But when he rejoined Aerosmith, Aerosmith recorded
one of the Joe Perry Project songs. I know this
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is not a tough one, but what was the name
of the song?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh? Oh, let music do the talk. Let the music
do the talk, correct, got it again? All right? So
two for three? All right? So I gotta think of
a question now, and we're gonna have to pull this
part out because I gotta think of a question for
a minute. All right, So all right, question number three
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for you?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You ready here, yes, sir, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
All right. So on the Lionel Richie song Dancing on
the Ceiling, there's a huge guitar outro. You know who
played that guitar outro?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well, it's got to be Steve Lucas there.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Ah, that's an easy one, but yes, that is correct.
And the problem is they cut that for the for
the radio edit, which sucks because that that outro is unbelievable.
But yeah, he played on that whole song.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
All right. So for Rapid Fire in Person, Rapid Fire
bonus question time? You ready? All right? Uh? White Snake
when they became a four piece, when they first came
over to tour the States, can you name the lineup
for White Snake? And it was for the Slide It
In album?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
All right, I'm gonna guess David Coverdale first off? Yes,
was that. Let's see Neil Murray on bass. Yes, I'm
gonna give Tommy.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Aldridge on drums, Ah, incorrect, A Cozy Powell correct, Okay,
the guitar player, I'll just guess John Sykes.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yes, that would be the mighty John Sykes and that
particular lineup of White Snake was my favorite live stripped down,
no keyboards, I mean, just ridiculously good. I mean Sikes
and Coverdale singing together. I mean, Cozy Powell was amazing,
drubbing Neil Murray. Everything was great. I saw him open
for Quiet Riot on the Conditioned Critical tour. That would
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be Quite Right's first tour. It was at Irvine Meadows
and so, you know, quite Right had a huge album
with you know, Metal Health, but condition Critical came out,
didn't do as well, and they toured, you know, as
the headliner, and it was the last time they really
toured as a headliner. It just kind of went right
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in the toilet for those guys. They were good, but
Whitesnake just blew them off the stage. So and then
White Snake got huge.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, yeah, with John Sykes, they would definitely blow anybody off.
But all right, let me thank bonus question for you.
It is probably really easy, but where was Van Halen's
last concert?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Funny you mentioned that, Dan, because we drove right past it.
That would be the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That is correct, And it's cool because I was just
kind of looking up where he lived, and that's definitely
a local show for him.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, I mean it was the local. I mean they're
from Pasadena and Passadena Joeling, not that far from Hollywood,
and he lived in Studio City, which is right down
the road from Hollywood. So yeah, but I didn't go
because I didn't like Ross vocals at the time. They
were just horrid. So I just I didn't want to
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diminish it, because you know, we saw Van Halen back
in the day. Was my first concert and they were great,
and they were great when I saw them all I
think Fair Warning is the last No Diver Down was
the last tour I saw, and they were great, and
I didn't want to diminish that with Ross poor vocals.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I saw all the incarnations of Van Halen. I
saw the original with David ly Roth, I saw Sammy
Hagar a number of times. I even saw the Gary
Sharon version, and then I saw the version which can't
really be called the davidly Roth version because he was
nothing like what he was previously, but I saw him
(29:15):
with Wolfgang playing bass. So definitely, by far, the best
was back way back in the day when davely Roth
could actually.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Sing yeah, and people always crap on the Sharon era.
That tour was great. I mean he played Sammy stuff,
Dave stuff, and you know this fanning on three stuff,
which you know well we've talked about in the past.
That was more of an Eddie solo album with a
crappy producing. It just didn't work. But the tour itself
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was really good.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, it was they. I saw them as Charlotte, North
Carolina and an outdoor shed and it was it was great.
I think Gary was singing about as well as he
as I've heard him, but maybe it was the material.
I don't know, but I'm not going to crap on
extreme at all ever, So Gary was really good. I'd
(30:08):
like to hear the outtakes or the whatever they've put
together for a second album, because we know they did,
but where that stuff stands, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, who opened for them? Do you remember when you
saw them? Because we had Monster Magnet and Johnny Lang.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I don't remember. No, I'd have to go back and
research that. No, I don't. It wasn't Monster Magnet Johnny
Lang because I've only seen johnn Lang once and that's
at a small venue in Wilmington and I've never seen
Monster Magnet.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, Monster Magnet was unimpressive. I wasn't impressed. Johnny Lang
was amazing. At the time. I think he was like
sixteen or seventeen, and he sounds like he's a like
a seventy year old black blues player from Memphis and
he's just a little blonde haired kid playing the blues.
He was pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Oh yeah, he can definitely play, that's no question.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And in the big news in the van Halen world
online is all this rumors going around that Steve Lucather
is gonna help Alex van Halen with going through all
that Van Halen material they recorded at fifty one to fifty.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And hopefully put out release all that stuff. Now, you're
not saying he's gonna record stuff as a guitar player.
He's gonna be like a producer editor kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Right, And when this came out two days ago, So
this morning I woke up and Steve Lutherger has made
the statement says, I am not playing one lick of
guitar on any of this stuff. We're just gonna go
through the archives and see what we can do and
see what we can put together. So Steve Lucather is
not the new van Halen guitar player.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's that's good. I want van Haalen to be done
and over their legacy be what it is, what it was.
I wish there was an van Halen tribute show. You know,
you would get everybody in their brother out for that,
but hey, it is what it is. But I would
I would definitely be interested to hear what kind of
stuff was in the studio.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, it'd be cool. Well with this stuff if you
got Steve. Look, they're going through all this stuff with
Alex and maybe if you need to add some background
vocals from Michael Anthony, bring him in, bring Wolfy in,
maybe need to if you need to touch up a
little guitar, have Wolfy touch it up if you have to.
And maybe even Dave or Sammy if a particular song
fits that particular vocal style. I'm sure those guys. I'm
(32:29):
sure Sammy would go in there and do it. Michael
would do it. I don't know if Dave would do it,
but we'll see. Maybe there's some stuff there with vocals,
you know, there's a bunch of stuff without vocals, But I.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Don't know if Dave could do it. You know, I
wouldn't want to bring out potentially awesome stuff and then
have Dave just crap all over it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well, you know, for the last album, Dave didn't sound
too bad on that, so maybe they took their time
with his vocals. Was a great No, but it worked
if you get the right producer, you know, have him
sing a line over and over until he gets it
right and you move on.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, I from what Davis said, I don't think that's
gonna happen. I'll be surprised if what happened with Sammy,
just because Sammy's been saying that it's he's tried to
get up with Alex, but there's no return anything, any
communication at all. So I'd be shocked if that happened.
But get Wolfy in there. I agree. You know, wolf
(33:27):
he can definitely pull off the A riff or two.
I mean he if you've seen any of the tribute
shows like the Taylor Hawkins Tribute show and him playing,
it's unbelievable. He is so freaking good.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, because it works. Though. He's a Van Halen, so
if he has to, even if he's a La rhythm
guitar down on something, anything vocals, whatever, bringing the elements
there still work, it could work, or maybe they got
stuff that's really complete. Like we've heard the second Strown
album was pretty much done. Eddie Trunk has talked about
listening to it in the car with Edward and or
(34:02):
not Edward, with Gary Sharon, and he said the stuff
was more like real van Halen as opposed to the
experimental van Halen we heard on Van Halen three.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So I would love to hear that absolutely, but we'll see.
I don't know. I know Wolfe's in the studio now
doing his own album, a Mammoth album, so we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
All right. On that note, with all those rumors out there,
we're gonna say goodbye from our probably one and maybe
only in person, live on tape hard Rocking Trivia show.
So thank you for listening, and we'll see you in
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Okay, bye,