June 17, 2025 • 42 mins
Episode #282: We dive into a lost classic and should've been big, but wasn't. Top3 Bottom3 of the debut album from STRANGER that was released on Epic/Sony in 1982. We think it's unfair that record company politics destroyed this band, so we bring back to life and maybe some of the hardcore Rock fans can discover it for the first times.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On your Mark, get ready start.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Broadcasting from California and Delaware. This is the Hard Rocking
Trivia Show and here're your host Mark and Danny.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I might go see Angel. I might go see Angel
on Saturday. They're playing the Whiskey, so.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh definitely go. Yeah, go stand on stand to your
left so you're in front of Punky.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
That was last time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
He looks weird up close as you know.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Good lord, dude. I was five feet from the guy
and I'm like, holy damn, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But then you stand next door. Yeah, it's all frozen,
but the guy can still.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Play his ass off.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And yeah, I can't funk with him because he's he's
actually kind of a big guy. He's not a little guy.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh he's probably six two or six three.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, and he's still in shape and he's in his seventies.
Like holy shit, but his face is yeah, lastic.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, lots of injections.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, whatever, whatever, whatever floats your boat. Alright, boys and girls,
(01:45):
we're back with the Hard Rocking Trivia Show, live and
in person from Delaware in California. Yeah, Delaware, Delaware. Delaware
is awesome. They even have Amish in Delawares. Killer place.
I love to visit. I'm gonna go back there someday,
all right, But anyway, here we go. We're gonna do
something that we haven't done in a while, or kind
(02:08):
of combined two bits. We're gonna do top three, bottom three,
and we've picked an album and we're gonna kind of
call this a lost classic. It's one that I'm very
familiar with and loved back in the day, but Danny
kind of sort of remembers it but never really listen
to it, so it's new and fresh to him. I
don't even know if he's gonna love it or hate it.
(02:30):
Not a clue me personally. I loved it back in
the day, and I couldn't believe that this particular album
wasn't bigger than it was. But there's kind of a
backstory to it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
So I'll be interested to see what you think after
what forty years.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, So when we've come up I came up with
this first one lost classic, maybe Danny will come up
with the next one where it's some album that almost
nobody heard of but he loves and maybe I have
not really listened to it, and it's kind of cool.
And this particular album it came out in nineteen eighty
two on Epic Sony Records, which later became CBS Records
(03:08):
or I don't know who owns what, but so it's
a major label and it's a debut album from a
band called Stranger. You're probably thinking, who the hell is Stranger?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I had.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I had the vinyl to this. I got it in
the record store because I thought it looked cool, cool cover.
It flipped over in the back of all these guys
are like rockers. I'm gonna get this. I had some success.
I had by album by a band called Touch that
nobody ever heard of either bought it and loved it
ever since. The same thing with this album from Strangers.
So who the hell of Stranger? They were from Florida
(03:42):
four piece band I think they came out in nineteen
eighty one. They were discovered by a record producer, Tom
Worman who did cheap Trick, Ted, NuGen, Motley Crue bands
like that. He signed him, signed him on the spot
the Epic CBS and they recorded their debut album. Kind
(04:03):
of a regional band back in the day because radio
stations weren't owned by like one or two companies, so
Florida radio was different than Texas radio. Texas radio was
different than New York. It's not all the same things.
So certain bands got big and particular areas. Stranger as well.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
As these guys were from Florida, Florida.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah so Florida, I mean, I mean the only bands
that really came out of Florida in the seventies was
pretty much like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Leonard Skinyard,
stuff like that, Molly Hattt. Yeah, those are kind of
the Southern rock bands. Stranger kind of has a slight
Southern field but not much more melodic hard rock.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, what they sing about is Southern type stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But yeah, you wouldn't. You wouldn't confuse him with the Outlaws. No, No,
sounds like Molly Hatchett. Oh no, it doesn't. This band
got a lot of play, but pretty much just regionally.
They did open up for bands like Triumph, Quiet Riot, Ufo,
skid row Aldanova, Eddie Money, So they'd opened for a
(05:14):
lot of people, but they were never really much of
a headliner. Oh so, they Epic put their album out
and it didn't really do too much because when they
put it out, what was big was about to happen
was like pop and new wave and stuff like that.
So what happened with them when Stranger was ready to
record their second album, Well, they were paid ceased and
(05:40):
desist while recording their second album and were dropped. So
they were paid not to record their second album. So
for years after that they were still around. They ended
up putting out like four other albums after that on
their own label called thunder Bay. Their next album came
out in nineteen eighty nine, so they were still a
(06:03):
regional band. Never got signed to another major label or
hung around till about ninety five and went away.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they had they had four other albums.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean, but the best one for me was
the debut. I mean, but still it was one of
those things like okay, well these guys they had the look,
good songs everything. Most people who have actually even heard
of this band, they know the song swamp Woman, which
(06:42):
has got that southern feel to it. In fact, that
song appears on two separate albums and it's a good tune.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's a cool video on YouTube for that song.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, really low budget though.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Oh yeah, it's just a video of them playing.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, and there is some things. There's actually a video
of them playing the universal Amphitheater in La opened somebody Else,
But I mean where I lived in the eighties. I
was in the Virginia area and then I moved to
La Stranger never got an airtime. This album didn't sell
or squat and you know, they went away. It's been
(07:18):
reissued a couple of times, so you can't find it.
You can't find it on Spotify. So maybe after the show,
if you're curious to would you like this? Would you
not like it? We're going to intersplice clips. So if
it sounds interesting, you go on Spotify. It might be
on YouTube too. Check it out. If you like it,
you can probably track it down. It's not gonna be
(07:39):
that expensive. So Danny, I love this album. What was
your initial response to this album?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I really liked it. Also, I'm thinking, why why do
I not know this band? Why didn't we listen to
it more back in the day when we lived next
door to each other? But maybe we did and I
just completely forgot. But I don't remember any of these songs.
So I I went through it like three or four
times in the past few past week or so. It
(08:07):
reminds me of early Riot. I don't know if you
got that at all.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I I could see that's the same timeframe. And we
both like early Riot too, so yeah, why didn't you.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, they have a lot of riffs kind of like Riot.
But that's the one thing that got me and listened
to the album. A lot of the riffs sound very
similar to each other. You know. There's a couple of songs,
one right after the other. It's like, wait a minute,
is that same riff as that other song? But it's
very close but not the same.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, there's no there's no prog epicus on this either.
That's pretty much three and a half minutes, four minute song.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh yeah, it's just straight ahead rock. And I did
have a hard time coming up with a bottom three.
I'll tell you that. There's a couple. There's two that
definitely are in the bottom, but then there's a I
had to add one that just okay. If I had
to pick a third on the bottom, I picked one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I Out of the ten, there's only ten songs on
this album, I don't hate any of them. There's a
couple like I could kind of skip those, but not many.
Out of the ten, I probably love seven of them.
I love them, and there three I didn't pick. I mean,
I don't dislike they're just okay. Here's another interesting fact
about this. The opening track on this album, it's called
(09:26):
Jackie So Bad. Apparently an early version of Tesla used
to play this live in the clubs. Really Jackie so Bad.
So somebody heard of them. I know the people in
Florida are like, oh god, I love Stranger, but you
wouldn't think a band in Sacramento, California were covering Jackie
So Bad, which is the opening track on this album.
(09:51):
Now we're not doing it. We're not doing a track
by track and playing eight songs. We're basically gonna do
our bottom three in our top three and we don't
know if it it's the same ones or not. So
you're gonna get a little taste this album and if
it turns you on you like a little bit, go
check it out. Maybe. I mean, a couple of guys
from Stranger are still around. Is the Greg Billings band,
(10:12):
which is the vocalist, and there's another guy who was
in Stranger, and those two guys probably play Stranger songs
still this day.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Really, so if you can, you know, give a couple
of cents to the guy it's a stranger, you're helping
the boys out here. So Danny, let's start with your
bottom three, bottom three. Yeah, we'll go three, and I'll
do mine three three, two two one one for the bottom.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, my number three, and again I had a hard
time picking the the number one and number two bottom threes.
I didn't have a problem with just because these, to me,
these are the obvious bottom songs. But my number three
was shakedown, You're doing a shake, And I had a
(11:08):
really hard time picking that song. But I had to
pick a third. So that's my.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Third okay, So your third okay, Shakedown, I love that song.
My number three bottom song, which I don't think is
the worst, the third worst on the album. Basically, I
picked dirty and Mean, which I don't hate. I kind
(11:37):
of like it. It's a faster tune, but it's like
I don't always go to so dirty and Me would
be my wow okay, and I don't hate it either
at all.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So all right, So we get to my bottom two,
which to me, these could be interchanged, really, but my
number two is Nobody's full.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Wow, Nobody's full. I think we're gonna hear about that later.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And that's not that's not Cinderella's version.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, no, this is that's a faster tune, Nobody's full.
That's very interesting. Okay, Wow, we're gonna be different on
this one big time. My number two, be surprising is
the opening track on this album, Jackie. So Jackie is
so bad. It's the It's the most a or song
(12:54):
on the album, mid tempo, catchy chorus. I don't dislike
it at all, but I just had to pick a
song that I like some of these other songs a
lot more, and I like Jackie so bad. But it's
the second worst than the album. But again I don't
hate it. There's only one song on this album I
could skip every time, and it's not that Okay. So
(13:15):
that's my number two.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Okay, So my bottommost song is get on up Stands
Get Wow. I'm not a fan of that at all. Wow.
If I picked your top three, you are completely wrong,
(13:40):
because my top three I think are good.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, So my number one of the worst song on
the album, which I think you were I thought you
were gonna pick because you generally don't like ballads, and
this is the only song that's really kind of a ballad.
It's called You're my kind of woman. You see, I
(14:10):
picked as the worst song on this album, which again
I don't hate it, but it's the closest thing to
a ballot on this album, and most of these songs
are more uptempo, So for me, that was the worst
song on the album. So I can already tell you
one of the songs you picked is the worst. I
picked as the best. So we're completely on both different
(14:31):
sides on this one. So obviously, since I've loved this
album for forty years, I'm right and Danny's wrong. So
now we go to the three best songs. Okay, the
top three, top three?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Okay, My number three is one you have already talked about,
dirty and memes.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Dirty means okay, well, you're really wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
And it's an up tempo Like you said, I'm not
really not usually a fan of the ballads, but this
one's not a ballad. But I think it's a good song.
Oh good song. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, my number three is a song that you've already
mentioned before, Shakedown.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now you're doing a shake.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Love it, love it wow shake Shake Shakedown good tune,
and it appears on many a couple of our Spotify playlists.
For sure. Stranger is represented in the eighties one and
in the our Giant playlist of over two thousand songs
(15:54):
by at least six songs by Stranger are represented. Cool
so Shakedown is definitely on there. Dirty Mean is definitely
not on there.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So see, that's not right. I should add it myself.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
My number two top three song is when you've already
mentioned My kind of Woman. Wow, I actually like that
(16:30):
song Holy smokes.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, so you like the songs I don't care for,
and I really like the songs that you don't care for.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Who Let's wait. But like you said, we both had
a hard time picking a top and bottom because, I mean,
there's only ten songs, and none of them are terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know, there's a silly conspiracy going around that there's
two Joe Biden's. Maybe there's two Dan Davis's.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
All right, Okay, I don't think either one of those
is true.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But yeah, I agree with you, but I'm starting to suspect. Now, Okay,
here we go. My number two we have not mentioned yet,
so I'm curious. Can see IF's your number one? A right,
and it's probably Oh wow, would I phrase this? It's
not the most It's probably the most cliched song on
(17:23):
the album, but I really like the riff and the groove.
It's rock and roll your Baby.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I won't a rock.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, it seems like any band can come up with that,
but I'm gonna rock. I'm gonna rock, gonna rock and
roll your baby. Yeah, it's I think the guitars and
the groove make the song. The lyrics are silly and cliched,
but I love the song, so that's my number two.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I was gonna put this in my bottom three because
of the lyrics, but the riff is great, the guitars
are great, So yeah, I didn't choose it at all
in either top or bottom. Okay, all right, I'll be
interested to see if our number one song is the same.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But oh, I know it's not, because you've already mentioned
it on the other side.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
If you put get on up, we'll get to it.
Jesus Christ, my top song is coming to.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Get You, Coming to Get You A good tune.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, I can't. This doesn't appear on my list either list,
but I like the song quite a bit. It's funny.
So far, we have not mentioned the most popular song
in their catalog which is swamp women what they're known for.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Any swamp woman would have been my number four top song.
I kind of swapped it out that and dirty and.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Mean, but yeah, you ready for my number one.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's get Up.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It is not get on Up. It's Nobody's fool. Jeez, now,
(19:33):
Nobody's full. The best song on the album. Go see it,
listen to it on Spotify or YouTube. In my opinion,
get On Up I didn't get because I thought it
was really silly. But I do like get On Up.
It's in the middle for me and coming to get you.
It would be in the middle for me too, But
again I like both songs, so for me, you can't
go wrong. So that's our top three bottom three stranger. Now,
(19:57):
if you had to give this score zero to one hundred,
what would you give this album? First time? Really listening
to it?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You know, I'd probably give this B plus, like an
eighty five.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay for me, it's about a ninety ninety one around that,
Oh okay. I mean there's only ten songs on it,
and I really like seven of them a lot and
a couple of my light and yeah, my kind of
Woman is the only one I could I really Skip,
but the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
It does seem a little bit dated. Yeah, but it's
from the early eighties, so that makes sense. It's forty
years old.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But Tom Mormon producers. It's well produced and it does
sound good. But yeah, it's definitely a product at the
times for sure. Yeah, but it is kind of funny
when you're giving a cease and desist not to record
your second album and they pay you to go away,
which is what it's brutal. Yeah. The only other time
I really heard of that is when Damn Yankees was
(20:57):
recording their third album and Growing happened and Damn Yankees
was gonna record their third and they gave him like
a million dollars to go away, and they did.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'd take a million dollars to go away.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I would too.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
There are plenty of islands i'd go to for a million.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But absolutely, here, here's a million. We're gonna tear the
contractor up, here's your million. So what Tommy goes back
to Sticks and Jack goes back to Night Ranger Ted
becomes a solar so they were just fine.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, then he goes back to whatever he's whatever band
he gets in.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Now, my school district wants give me a million dollars
to go away. I will go away now I'm gone.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the
way he's gone. Wow was that smoke? Oh? That was Mark. Oh,
that's right, he's history.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So, as you know, I listened to audio books. I
don't have the time to Most of the time I'm
spent in the car. It takes me like thirty minutes
to get to work it. So I've been listening to audiobooks.
I'm listening to Oh, it's by Sean Kelly. It's about
hair bands and his history of don't oh it's called
don't call It hair Metal. It's pretty good. This guy
(22:13):
goes really in depth of how it became and how
it's played and his experiences, and so I can highly
recommend that one. I mean, you could buy the book
and read it, but I just don't have the time.
I don't have time like you do to sit and
you know, sit in the chair, relax and read. I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But yeah, I like, I mean, I'm not a fan
of the term hair metal or hair bands, but I
get the genre, you know. I if you asked me
to name twenty hair bands, I could do it in
my sleep. But you know, I don't like the term.
It makes it sound like it's just totally superfluous, just easy,
(22:57):
the same that all the bands are the same, which
they're not.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Right, It's yeah, he's talking to You're talking about the look,
you're not talking about the sound. Yeah, because if you
look at the seventies bands, they had a lot of
hair too, call it hair metal.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Because yeah, would you call ed Zeppelin the hair band?
They had a lot of.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Hair out of hair?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But yeah, I think they just do that just to
disparage that. So yeah, I'm not a big fan of
that term, but you know, I do like the music,
and none of it's You can't tell me that Faster
pussy Cat sounds like Dokin. They're completely different, but they're
all lumped into that same category. Yeah, and even sometimes
I'm extreme, does extreme sound anything like Motley Crue?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No? I mean that's you could make an argument for
and against just about any band of whether or not
there hair metal, except maybe Poison. Yeah. I think Poison
is probably the banner band for hair metal.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, they they they were all in on the
look and they're all in on the bubblegum lyrics in
three and a half minute songs.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Which would you consider Toto a hair band?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No, definitely not. But I saw them in Roanoke, Virginia
in nineteen eighty four or maybe eighty five, front row seats.
Fergie was singing with them, and mid concert, during one
of the solos, he goes off stage, comes back he
smells like he has sprayed an entire can of hair
(24:33):
spray on his hair because it was completely sticking up.
It was just like a helmet of hair sticking up everywhere.
Does that make him a hairband? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You should have flicked your lighter. Could another.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, I could have, because he came down right in
front of us, on the floor, between me and the
people I went with, and saying hold the.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Line with us, Oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Great, but man, he smelled like hairspray.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, because that a lot of people, even Jeff Scott
Soto says, one of his favorite Total albums is Isolation.
It is awesome, But the problem was like with Fergie,
I guess he had some stage fright issues and I
sometimes live he had trouble hitting all the notes, so
he wasn't long.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
For that pad not from what I remember. He was pretty.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
He was on when you had him?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Okay, oh yeah, and I will agree Isolation is one
of their best albums.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, but then they went a different direction.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Angel Don't Cry, Stranger in Town.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I heard I had their Toto's last tour. They played
Karmen again.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, Wow. They have a guy. They have a
guy playing keyboards that can sing those high things because
Joe can't really hit the high stuff as well anymore.
But this guy playing keyboards.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Who Yeah, they're took out. They were touring this summer
with a Minute Work and Christopher Cross in arena, so
it's it's come full silk circle for those guys.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Wow. Well yeah, I love those guys. Love those guys
a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
There's a couple of tours coming this summer. I definitely
Iron Maiden comes. I want to see it for sure.
Heart is touring, but Anne is kind of sitting down
because she said some physical injuries and the voice is
starting to go a little bit. But I never got
to see Heart, so I may just go pull. They're
playing in Bakersfield, which is about an hour north of
(26:31):
where I'm at right now, and I just may think, Oh,
let's just go see Heart just to say we've seen them.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So yeah, I'm I'm not going to go to that.
I saw them on their Bad Animals tour and they
were freaking amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
They worse. You want to keep that memory of the
way it was.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I do you know that's when they they had what
about love song? You know that's they were huge, huge,
And I want to keep that as what I know of.
I don't want to see see her sitting in a
chair or wheelchair or whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And the only also bummer that I mean, that was
the second version of Heart that you saw. And those
guys were all great musicians too, and the original band
was a great musicians. Now it's Anne and Nancy and
a bunch of guys. There's like four guitar players total
on stage, and say, I mean, they're all great musicians,
but I don't know who the hell they are. Who
(27:26):
are these guys with Ann and Nancy? I mean, I
know Ann and Nancy at the focal point. But it
would be cool to bring back some of those older
guys that were great.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, get Howard LEAs up there, Denny CARMOUSI, that'd be great, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, But I mean, and now she's got her hairs gray.
And she was in a wheelchair for a little bit
there and she had she had a cast in a
wheelchair and she was struggling. But I saw some footage
of last week and she was doing much better vocally.
She knowstrong His store goes a little bit with Barrakuda,
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but the rest of it phenomenal. So oh, here's here's
what everybody should see. And this woman is seventy two
years old. Pat bennettar and Neil Gerardo. I saw a
video of her playing last week, freaking seventy two. She's
hitting all the notes, she's singing, singing on ten.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's we saw her last year with her and her
husband and the band. It was a full band, phenomenal.
It was awesome. You know, she's one of these people
that I don't know how she does it, but she has.
She still has the jobs to sing like she used to.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, and then you see these other people out here.
You see like John bon Jovi lost his voice. You
hear Axel singing, you go ooh fu and they get
the whole Stanley. Yeah, oh yeah, we'll not good. I mean, yeah,
no one to retire. But then you get Sammy Hagar
still belting out here. Glenn Hughes, who I saw last
year is unbelievable. Oh and BCC is playing in Europe together.
(29:13):
It's like, Oh, and when Glenn Hughes, if Glenn Hears
goes anywhere near you, he's gonna play a retro retrospective
of his career on his next club tour in the US.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You gotta go.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
This guy's on not only a great singer, but a
great bass player. My wife was blown away and she
knew nothing about Glenn. He was like, going, this.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Guy is great. I'm like, God, I told you he
wasn't in Deep Purple and BCC and all these bands
just by chance.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah that when Glenn Hughes comes, bring Dana. She's not
gonna believe how great this guy can sing. Okay, I mean,
I mean, she's a singer. She'll she may not like
the music, but she'll appreciate the song. He sings ballads too,
So my wife like the slower songs and all that stuff.
But whatever the screaming is in when he screams, I mean,
(30:11):
the octave range is ridiculous. I mean so, and the
band he had was so good. Oh yeah, So anytime
Glenn Hughes comes anywhere near you, people out there go
see him because you know, we know how much longer
he's going to be around. So yeah, yeah, we're all
over the place, and he got anything else they add there, Dan.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I am going to see a tour called Legends of
Country Rock, okay, like Firefall and Hooko. Guys from those bands.
I don't exactly know what they're doing, but if they're
coming to the grand I'm going to work the show
and then go watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
How many guys in Poco are left? And how many
guys in Firefallo left?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, there's one main guy. I think he's the one
doing the tour because I think he in both bands.
But okay, I don't know anything about it other than
there's one other group.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I only know one Poco song. I know the bass
player in the Eagles was in Poco. Firefall. I know
the hits, but I couldn't tell you one person was
in the band because in the seventies, Firefall I had
like four or five songs that you heard on the radio. Yeah,
if I was there, i'd go to that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Why not? Okay, it's called Legends of country Rock featuring
Pure Prairie League, Firefall, and special guests Ricky Furrey from
Poco and Buffalo Springfield.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Okay, well you know what you're getting when you go
to that thing. But I remember all those bands. I
couldn't tell you one Pure Prairie League song, but it's
gonna be yeah, mellow country rock pretty much, and hopefully
they got good guys playing that stuff and it could
be great live or it could be a train wreck,
(32:01):
but I don't think it would be.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I don't know there'd be a train wreck because
it's not like Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh they're that's scary.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah. They they towed him out and he doesn't even sing.
He just like stands there and.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh yeah, he's he looks like he's on his last
legs and he's just moving his mouth. It's like a
wax figure and I you know, one of those things
you see it it's a small world moving.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Hey, yeah, animatronic.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah. When I saw the video that, I felt so
bad for that guy, Like, why are you doing to
this him? I mean, he can't be.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Like Phil Collins. Not that not that bad, but Phil
Collins isn't.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh that was that was sad too. It was like, oh, Phil,
I mean, must all those divorces. Maybe he's hurting for
money going out there perform performing in a wheelchair. Well
I saw it when I saw Sweet right before the
pandemic started. He was playing in a pretty much sitting
down in a chair. I mean he's saying great, and
he played bass great, but you could see, you know,
(33:07):
he look, he saw his arms and it was just
basically the skin falling off of his bones. He looked terrible.
And when he got up to leave, he had to
have the other three guys kind of almost pick him
up and walk them off stage because he could barely move.
It's like, oh, this guy's not gonna this guy's not
gonna make it. And sure enough, four months later he died.
(33:28):
I'm like, oh my god. But yeah, sometimes you got
to know when to walk away. It's like boxers, like
they stay around too long. I can go back and
be a champion again and no start to lose, give
it up. And like the UFC, you start to lose, boy,
(33:48):
they kick you out quick, don't they. You lost two
in a row. Well goodbye, we're not you know, we're
not reining your contract. You're out of here, You're get killed.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I don't know. All right, well, i'm calling it a night.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You're gonna call a night. So I might go to
Angel this weekend. And if I do, we'll come back.
I'll talk about that, and we'll hear about your country
rock experience.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And I think there was one other show I'm going
to see let me see.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Here, Yeah, and we'll also Danny and I lately have
been just Danny's been still Vegas. He's been everywhere, Costa Rica.
I was in a reno and I'm going to Bois
So we sometimes things get crazy and we're trying to
get these shows out as quickly as we can, maybe
double up a couple of times. But you know, it
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seems like we got a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I knew, I knew I was going to one more show.
You'll love this one.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Who Ben fo.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
All from the ben Folts five that had three guys
in the band. Yeah, yeah, I know he's a talented
keyboard player, but I know I knew. I think I
knew one song from him, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Know that's more than I do. I don't know. It's
kind of he's doing a solo piano tour, so I'm
working that show and I'll I'll go in and watch.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Could be great, maybe a turn into a Ben Folds fan.
Apparently he's got quite the following and people respect him.
So absolutely, if you can go for free, that's me,
that's both of us really, even if we haven't heard
of somebody, and hey, it's not expensive, why not. Can't
hurt If it stinks, you can leave, so I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't mind going to these you know, working these shows.
You know. Oh, I know what I wanted to go
in and I see and I'm not enjoying it. I'm done.
I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, I know what I wanted to talk to you about.
Did you see the attendance at that board Rock festival
in Ocean City, you know, because we were we weren't
sure it was really going to work.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I am so glad I didn't go. Oh shit, they were.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It was like fifty they said, fifty to seventy thousand
people stuffed on that beach. On the beach, but then
he couldn't go in the water because they blocked that
part off. I mean, it looked like it was run
really well. But if you didn't pay for your VIP
tickets where you could go in the shade or sometime,
you were screwed.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And it was it was really sunny that whole weekend.
It was really nice. It wasn't hot, but oh my god,
I would not have been able to just stand on
the beach for eight hours.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, I mean, and I said, the only I would
listen to Eddy Trunk talk about it, says the only
bad thing is sometimes they had two bands going get
the same exact time. Fix that little thing and maybe
get some covers for some of these people. You can't
stick people out there for eight hours in the sun.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You're gonna get a.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Lot of injuries. But I guess they're gonna do that
thing next year because it really worked. They put the
nineties bands with the eighties band and even brought in
Alice Cooper's seventies band and it worked. So Yeah, people
like live music, yeah, if it's done right. And it
seems like they're trying to model after what they do
(37:12):
in Europe and those things always sell out over there.
But yeah, if I was going to do something like that,
I'd have to pay the extra money to do the
VIP thing. Where you could get some you can go
hide or they had some stands for those people so
they didn't have to stay they have to they could
actually sit down and watch some of the shows.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I would do. I would absolutely
do the VIP because I'm not standing on the beach
trade hours.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Because we're damn old.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I remember me and my friend Greg went to a
show one time. There was three bands that was like
Deep Purple, Survivor and somebody else, and we knew we
were getting old by the second band that came out.
We had to sit down. It's like this is great,
but oh my god, my feet are killing me, My
knees are killing me. And it was only the second band.
Oh my And we were all in our fifties at
(37:57):
the times, though.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
We weren't too well after eclipse.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, we remember.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Walking out of there going, oh Jesus Christ, we got
to walk to the car.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Now, Yeah, we're look and we went the Rainbow before
sitting down for an hour and a half. Yeah, we
were standing here.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
But that that was absolutely worth it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Did we do a review of that show, yep down here.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yes we did. Yeah, so where thumbs up for Eclipse Live.
Hopefully they'll play somewhere around you guys in the future.
They seem to only do sporadic shows in the US,
and the Monsters are rock Cruises, And I also.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Saw that we saw their only second show in the US.
Great band, not including the Monsters of rock Cruise, don't
I don't got those as being in the US.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, they're doing the twenty six one already. But man,
I look at those prices like, I don't know, I
don't know if I can do that. Yeah, looks like
if you're probably cheaper if you go to some of
these destinations places and go see like four or five
bands in one place, like a little thing in Minnesota
of all places, and they got five bands playing there,
(39:06):
Like okay, well I can afford that, get a hotel,
and by the ticket, that's a lot cheaper than paying
four grand for a cruise. Like we'll see. Maybe when
I retire, I'll do more of that stuff and we'll
figure out destinations to go to exactly. All right, on
that happy note, we're gonna say good night and we'll
see you in a few after our trips.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Everywhere, Yeah, after our summer begins.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yep, all right, see you all right, take care.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Well that was fun. Huh.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, I've got two shows out of that for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
How long have we been on? I can't even tell.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
This is an hour and thirty eight, but I but
it's probably gonna be like maybe one show will be
like forty minutes and the other will be thirties or
something like that. All right, I can put them on
a couple. Well, read it out. We'll have something to
talk about next time.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Nice And luckily it's it's only three eleven right now.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, time for me to go make some dinner because
Danila won't be home till least ten.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
O'clock and she'll be exhausted.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Watch the Phillies there you go.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
You know what, I've been watching. The College Baseball World
Series has been pretty good. Oh really, yeah, I mean,
I mean sometimes I watch the softball, but the baseball's
high scoring. And sometimes these schools that you'd think would win,
these SEC teams apparently they had eleven teams make the
playoffs and all only three of them are left. They're like,
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so the big money schools are getting there, Like Murray
State is in the top eight.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Huh Murray State.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, And and Wright State almost made it like all
these smaller schools are challenging the big schools, so it's
kind of cool to see.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, I know softball is down to Texas versus Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Right, yeah, because Oklahoma'd already won four titles in a
row and they got knocked out.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So right, they got knocked out by Texas Tech. So
I was go Red Raiders.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, that's the only time I watched college baseball or
softball in the tournaments. That's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Actually, we went to the girls championship soccer game for
high school when Caravell was playing. They won one nothing
in overtime. And then that was Sunday night. Monday night,
we went to the girls softball championship and Caravell won
that too. They must recruit, huh, Well, that's what everybody says.
(41:43):
And they won the basketball, the girls basketball championship for
the state, uh huh, And everybody's like, oh, they recruit
all down the East Coast. I'm married to the to
the admissions director. They don't recruit.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
People, just go there because the program is good.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, they go they It's like, you know, you get
the girls because your team is good. You don't you
don't get the girls to make your team good.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah you
On your Mark, get ready start.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Broadcasting from California and Delaware. This is the Hard Rocking
Trivia Show and here're your host Mark and Danny.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I might go see Angel. I might go see Angel
on Saturday. They're playing the Whiskey, so.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh definitely go. Yeah, go stand on stand to your
left so you're in front of Punky.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
That was last time.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
He looks weird up close as you know.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Good lord, dude. I was five feet from the guy
and I'm like, holy damn, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But then you stand next door. Yeah, it's all frozen,
but the guy can still.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Play his ass off.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And yeah, I can't funk with him because he's he's
actually kind of a big guy. He's not a little guy.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh he's probably six two or six three.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, and he's still in shape and he's in his seventies.
Like holy shit, but his face is yeah, lastic.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, lots of injections.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, whatever, whatever, whatever floats your boat. Alright, boys and girls,
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we're back with the Hard Rocking Trivia Show, live and
in person from Delaware in California. Yeah, Delaware, Delaware. Delaware
is awesome. They even have Amish in Delawares. Killer place.
I love to visit. I'm gonna go back there someday,
all right, But anyway, here we go. We're gonna do
something that we haven't done in a while, or kind
(02:08):
of combined two bits. We're gonna do top three, bottom three,
and we've picked an album and we're gonna kind of
call this a lost classic. It's one that I'm very
familiar with and loved back in the day, but Danny
kind of sort of remembers it but never really listen
to it, so it's new and fresh to him. I
don't even know if he's gonna love it or hate it.
(02:30):
Not a clue me personally. I loved it back in
the day, and I couldn't believe that this particular album
wasn't bigger than it was. But there's kind of a
backstory to it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
So I'll be interested to see what you think after
what forty years.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, So when we've come up I came up with
this first one lost classic, maybe Danny will come up
with the next one where it's some album that almost
nobody heard of but he loves and maybe I have
not really listened to it, and it's kind of cool.
And this particular album it came out in nineteen eighty
two on Epic Sony Records, which later became CBS Records
(03:08):
or I don't know who owns what, but so it's
a major label and it's a debut album from a
band called Stranger. You're probably thinking, who the hell is Stranger?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I had.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I had the vinyl to this. I got it in
the record store because I thought it looked cool, cool cover.
It flipped over in the back of all these guys
are like rockers. I'm gonna get this. I had some success.
I had by album by a band called Touch that
nobody ever heard of either bought it and loved it
ever since. The same thing with this album from Strangers.
So who the hell of Stranger? They were from Florida
(03:42):
four piece band I think they came out in nineteen
eighty one. They were discovered by a record producer, Tom
Worman who did cheap Trick, Ted, NuGen, Motley Crue bands
like that. He signed him, signed him on the spot
the Epic CBS and they recorded their debut album. Kind
(04:03):
of a regional band back in the day because radio
stations weren't owned by like one or two companies, so
Florida radio was different than Texas radio. Texas radio was
different than New York. It's not all the same things.
So certain bands got big and particular areas. Stranger as well.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
As these guys were from Florida, Florida.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah so Florida, I mean, I mean the only bands
that really came out of Florida in the seventies was
pretty much like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Leonard Skinyard,
stuff like that, Molly Hattt. Yeah, those are kind of
the Southern rock bands. Stranger kind of has a slight
Southern field but not much more melodic hard rock.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, what they sing about is Southern type stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But yeah, you wouldn't. You wouldn't confuse him with the Outlaws. No, No,
sounds like Molly Hatchett. Oh no, it doesn't. This band
got a lot of play, but pretty much just regionally.
They did open up for bands like Triumph, Quiet Riot, Ufo,
skid row Aldanova, Eddie Money, So they'd opened for a
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lot of people, but they were never really much of
a headliner. Oh so, they Epic put their album out
and it didn't really do too much because when they
put it out, what was big was about to happen
was like pop and new wave and stuff like that.
So what happened with them when Stranger was ready to
record their second album, Well, they were paid ceased and
(05:40):
desist while recording their second album and were dropped. So
they were paid not to record their second album. So
for years after that they were still around. They ended
up putting out like four other albums after that on
their own label called thunder Bay. Their next album came
out in nineteen eighty nine, so they were still a
(06:03):
regional band. Never got signed to another major label or
hung around till about ninety five and went away.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they had they had four other albums.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean, but the best one for me was
the debut. I mean, but still it was one of
those things like okay, well these guys they had the look,
good songs everything. Most people who have actually even heard
of this band, they know the song swamp Woman, which
(06:42):
has got that southern feel to it. In fact, that
song appears on two separate albums and it's a good tune.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's a cool video on YouTube for that song.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, really low budget though.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Oh yeah, it's just a video of them playing.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, and there is some things. There's actually a video
of them playing the universal Amphitheater in La opened somebody Else,
But I mean where I lived in the eighties. I
was in the Virginia area and then I moved to
La Stranger never got an airtime. This album didn't sell
or squat and you know, they went away. It's been
(07:18):
reissued a couple of times, so you can't find it.
You can't find it on Spotify. So maybe after the show,
if you're curious to would you like this? Would you
not like it? We're going to intersplice clips. So if
it sounds interesting, you go on Spotify. It might be
on YouTube too. Check it out. If you like it,
you can probably track it down. It's not gonna be
(07:39):
that expensive. So Danny, I love this album. What was
your initial response to this album?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I really liked it. Also, I'm thinking, why why do
I not know this band? Why didn't we listen to
it more back in the day when we lived next
door to each other? But maybe we did and I
just completely forgot. But I don't remember any of these songs.
So I I went through it like three or four
times in the past few past week or so. It
(08:07):
reminds me of early Riot. I don't know if you
got that at all.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I I could see that's the same timeframe. And we
both like early Riot too, so yeah, why didn't you.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, they have a lot of riffs kind of like Riot.
But that's the one thing that got me and listened
to the album. A lot of the riffs sound very
similar to each other. You know. There's a couple of songs,
one right after the other. It's like, wait a minute,
is that same riff as that other song? But it's
very close but not the same.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, there's no there's no prog epicus on this either.
That's pretty much three and a half minutes, four minute song.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh yeah, it's just straight ahead rock. And I did
have a hard time coming up with a bottom three.
I'll tell you that. There's a couple. There's two that
definitely are in the bottom, but then there's a I
had to add one that just okay. If I had
to pick a third on the bottom, I picked one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I Out of the ten, there's only ten songs on
this album, I don't hate any of them. There's a
couple like I could kind of skip those, but not many.
Out of the ten, I probably love seven of them.
I love them, and there three I didn't pick. I mean,
I don't dislike they're just okay. Here's another interesting fact
about this. The opening track on this album, it's called
(09:26):
Jackie So Bad. Apparently an early version of Tesla used
to play this live in the clubs. Really Jackie so Bad.
So somebody heard of them. I know the people in
Florida are like, oh god, I love Stranger, but you
wouldn't think a band in Sacramento, California were covering Jackie
So Bad, which is the opening track on this album.
(09:51):
Now we're not doing it. We're not doing a track
by track and playing eight songs. We're basically gonna do
our bottom three in our top three and we don't
know if it it's the same ones or not. So
you're gonna get a little taste this album and if
it turns you on you like a little bit, go
check it out. Maybe. I mean, a couple of guys
from Stranger are still around. Is the Greg Billings band,
(10:12):
which is the vocalist, and there's another guy who was
in Stranger, and those two guys probably play Stranger songs
still this day.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Really, so if you can, you know, give a couple
of cents to the guy it's a stranger, you're helping
the boys out here. So Danny, let's start with your
bottom three, bottom three. Yeah, we'll go three, and I'll
do mine three three, two two one one for the bottom.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, my number three, and again I had a hard
time picking the the number one and number two bottom threes.
I didn't have a problem with just because these, to me,
these are the obvious bottom songs. But my number three
was shakedown, You're doing a shake, And I had a
(11:08):
really hard time picking that song. But I had to
pick a third. So that's my.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Third okay, So your third okay, Shakedown, I love that song.
My number three bottom song, which I don't think is
the worst, the third worst on the album. Basically, I
picked dirty and Mean, which I don't hate. I kind
(11:37):
of like it. It's a faster tune, but it's like
I don't always go to so dirty and Me would
be my wow okay, and I don't hate it either
at all.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So all right, So we get to my bottom two,
which to me, these could be interchanged, really, but my
number two is Nobody's full.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Wow, Nobody's full. I think we're gonna hear about that later.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And that's not that's not Cinderella's version.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, no, this is that's a faster tune, Nobody's full.
That's very interesting. Okay, Wow, we're gonna be different on
this one big time. My number two, be surprising is
the opening track on this album, Jackie. So Jackie is
so bad. It's the It's the most a or song
(12:54):
on the album, mid tempo, catchy chorus. I don't dislike
it at all, but I just had to pick a
song that I like some of these other songs a
lot more, and I like Jackie so bad. But it's
the second worst than the album. But again I don't
hate it. There's only one song on this album I
could skip every time, and it's not that Okay. So
(13:15):
that's my number two.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Okay, So my bottommost song is get on up Stands
Get Wow. I'm not a fan of that at all. Wow.
If I picked your top three, you are completely wrong,
(13:40):
because my top three I think are good.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, So my number one of the worst song on
the album, which I think you were I thought you
were gonna pick because you generally don't like ballads, and
this is the only song that's really kind of a ballad.
It's called You're my kind of woman. You see, I
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picked as the worst song on this album, which again
I don't hate it, but it's the closest thing to
a ballot on this album, and most of these songs
are more uptempo, So for me, that was the worst
song on the album. So I can already tell you
one of the songs you picked is the worst. I
picked as the best. So we're completely on both different
(14:31):
sides on this one. So obviously, since I've loved this
album for forty years, I'm right and Danny's wrong. So
now we go to the three best songs. Okay, the
top three, top three?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Okay, My number three is one you have already talked about,
dirty and memes.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Dirty means okay, well, you're really wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
And it's an up tempo Like you said, I'm not
really not usually a fan of the ballads, but this
one's not a ballad. But I think it's a good song.
Oh good song. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, my number three is a song that you've already
mentioned before, Shakedown.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now you're doing a shake.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Love it, love it wow shake Shake Shakedown good tune,
and it appears on many a couple of our Spotify playlists.
For sure. Stranger is represented in the eighties one and
in the our Giant playlist of over two thousand songs
(15:54):
by at least six songs by Stranger are represented. Cool
so Shakedown is definitely on there. Dirty Mean is definitely
not on there.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So see, that's not right. I should add it myself.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
My number two top three song is when you've already
mentioned My kind of Woman. Wow, I actually like that
(16:30):
song Holy smokes.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, so you like the songs I don't care for,
and I really like the songs that you don't care for.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Who Let's wait. But like you said, we both had
a hard time picking a top and bottom because, I mean,
there's only ten songs, and none of them are terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know, there's a silly conspiracy going around that there's
two Joe Biden's. Maybe there's two Dan Davis's.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
All right, Okay, I don't think either one of those
is true.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
But yeah, I agree with you, but I'm starting to suspect. Now, Okay,
here we go. My number two we have not mentioned yet,
so I'm curious. Can see IF's your number one? A right,
and it's probably Oh wow, would I phrase this? It's
not the most It's probably the most cliched song on
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the album, but I really like the riff and the groove.
It's rock and roll your Baby.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I won't a rock.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, it seems like any band can come up with that,
but I'm gonna rock. I'm gonna rock, gonna rock and
roll your baby. Yeah, it's I think the guitars and
the groove make the song. The lyrics are silly and cliched,
but I love the song, so that's my number two.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I was gonna put this in my bottom three because
of the lyrics, but the riff is great, the guitars
are great, So yeah, I didn't choose it at all
in either top or bottom. Okay, all right, I'll be
interested to see if our number one song is the same.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But oh, I know it's not, because you've already mentioned
it on the other side.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
If you put get on up, we'll get to it.
Jesus Christ, my top song is coming to.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Get You, Coming to Get You A good tune.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, I can't. This doesn't appear on my list either list,
but I like the song quite a bit. It's funny.
So far, we have not mentioned the most popular song
in their catalog which is swamp women what they're known for.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Any swamp woman would have been my number four top song.
I kind of swapped it out that and dirty and.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Mean, but yeah, you ready for my number one.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's get Up.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It is not get on Up. It's Nobody's fool. Jeez, now,
(19:33):
Nobody's full. The best song on the album. Go see it,
listen to it on Spotify or YouTube. In my opinion,
get On Up I didn't get because I thought it
was really silly. But I do like get On Up.
It's in the middle for me and coming to get you.
It would be in the middle for me too, But
again I like both songs, so for me, you can't
go wrong. So that's our top three bottom three stranger. Now,
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if you had to give this score zero to one hundred,
what would you give this album? First time? Really listening
to it?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
You know, I'd probably give this B plus, like an
eighty five.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay for me, it's about a ninety ninety one around that,
Oh okay. I mean there's only ten songs on it,
and I really like seven of them a lot and
a couple of my light and yeah, my kind of
Woman is the only one I could I really Skip,
but the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
It does seem a little bit dated. Yeah, but it's
from the early eighties, so that makes sense. It's forty
years old.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But Tom Mormon producers. It's well produced and it does
sound good. But yeah, it's definitely a product at the
times for sure. Yeah, but it is kind of funny
when you're giving a cease and desist not to record
your second album and they pay you to go away,
which is what it's brutal. Yeah. The only other time
I really heard of that is when Damn Yankees was
(20:57):
recording their third album and Growing happened and Damn Yankees
was gonna record their third and they gave him like
a million dollars to go away, and they did.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'd take a million dollars to go away.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I would too.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
There are plenty of islands i'd go to for a million.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But absolutely, here, here's a million. We're gonna tear the
contractor up, here's your million. So what Tommy goes back
to Sticks and Jack goes back to Night Ranger Ted
becomes a solar so they were just fine.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, then he goes back to whatever he's whatever band
he gets in.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Now, my school district wants give me a million dollars
to go away. I will go away now I'm gone.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the
way he's gone. Wow was that smoke? Oh? That was Mark. Oh,
that's right, he's history.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So, as you know, I listened to audio books. I
don't have the time to Most of the time I'm
spent in the car. It takes me like thirty minutes
to get to work it. So I've been listening to audiobooks.
I'm listening to Oh, it's by Sean Kelly. It's about
hair bands and his history of don't oh it's called
don't call It hair Metal. It's pretty good. This guy
(22:13):
goes really in depth of how it became and how
it's played and his experiences, and so I can highly
recommend that one. I mean, you could buy the book
and read it, but I just don't have the time.
I don't have time like you do to sit and
you know, sit in the chair, relax and read. I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But yeah, I like, I mean, I'm not a fan
of the term hair metal or hair bands, but I
get the genre, you know. I if you asked me
to name twenty hair bands, I could do it in
my sleep. But you know, I don't like the term.
It makes it sound like it's just totally superfluous, just easy,
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the same that all the bands are the same, which
they're not.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Right, It's yeah, he's talking to You're talking about the look,
you're not talking about the sound. Yeah, because if you
look at the seventies bands, they had a lot of
hair too, call it hair metal.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Because yeah, would you call ed Zeppelin the hair band?
They had a lot of.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Hair out of hair?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But yeah, I think they just do that just to
disparage that. So yeah, I'm not a big fan of
that term, but you know, I do like the music,
and none of it's You can't tell me that Faster
pussy Cat sounds like Dokin. They're completely different, but they're
all lumped into that same category. Yeah, and even sometimes
I'm extreme, does extreme sound anything like Motley Crue?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No? I mean that's you could make an argument for
and against just about any band of whether or not
there hair metal, except maybe Poison. Yeah. I think Poison
is probably the banner band for hair metal.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, they they they were all in on the
look and they're all in on the bubblegum lyrics in
three and a half minute songs.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Which would you consider Toto a hair band?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No, definitely not. But I saw them in Roanoke, Virginia
in nineteen eighty four or maybe eighty five, front row seats.
Fergie was singing with them, and mid concert, during one
of the solos, he goes off stage, comes back he
smells like he has sprayed an entire can of hair
(24:33):
spray on his hair because it was completely sticking up.
It was just like a helmet of hair sticking up everywhere.
Does that make him a hairband? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You should have flicked your lighter. Could another.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, I could have, because he came down right in
front of us, on the floor, between me and the
people I went with, and saying hold the.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Line with us, Oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Great, but man, he smelled like hairspray.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, because that a lot of people, even Jeff Scott
Soto says, one of his favorite Total albums is Isolation.
It is awesome, But the problem was like with Fergie,
I guess he had some stage fright issues and I
sometimes live he had trouble hitting all the notes, so
he wasn't long.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
For that pad not from what I remember. He was pretty.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
He was on when you had him?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Okay, oh yeah, and I will agree Isolation is one
of their best albums.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, but then they went a different direction.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Angel Don't Cry, Stranger in Town.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I heard I had their Toto's last tour. They played
Karmen again.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, Wow. They have a guy. They have a
guy playing keyboards that can sing those high things because
Joe can't really hit the high stuff as well anymore.
But this guy playing keyboards.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Who Yeah, they're took out. They were touring this summer
with a Minute Work and Christopher Cross in arena, so
it's it's come full silk circle for those guys.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Wow. Well yeah, I love those guys. Love those guys
a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
There's a couple of tours coming this summer. I definitely
Iron Maiden comes. I want to see it for sure.
Heart is touring, but Anne is kind of sitting down
because she said some physical injuries and the voice is
starting to go a little bit. But I never got
to see Heart, so I may just go pull. They're
playing in Bakersfield, which is about an hour north of
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where I'm at right now, and I just may think, Oh,
let's just go see Heart just to say we've seen them.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So yeah, I'm I'm not going to go to that.
I saw them on their Bad Animals tour and they
were freaking amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
They worse. You want to keep that memory of the
way it was.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I do you know that's when they they had what
about love song? You know that's they were huge, huge,
And I want to keep that as what I know of.
I don't want to see see her sitting in a
chair or wheelchair or whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And the only also bummer that I mean, that was
the second version of Heart that you saw. And those
guys were all great musicians too, and the original band
was a great musicians. Now it's Anne and Nancy and
a bunch of guys. There's like four guitar players total
on stage, and say, I mean, they're all great musicians,
but I don't know who the hell they are. Who
(27:26):
are these guys with Ann and Nancy? I mean, I
know Ann and Nancy at the focal point. But it
would be cool to bring back some of those older
guys that were great.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, get Howard LEAs up there, Denny CARMOUSI, that'd be great, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, But I mean, and now she's got her hairs gray.
And she was in a wheelchair for a little bit
there and she had she had a cast in a
wheelchair and she was struggling. But I saw some footage
of last week and she was doing much better vocally.
She knowstrong His store goes a little bit with Barrakuda,
(28:02):
but the rest of it phenomenal. So oh, here's here's
what everybody should see. And this woman is seventy two
years old. Pat bennettar and Neil Gerardo. I saw a
video of her playing last week, freaking seventy two. She's
hitting all the notes, she's singing, singing on ten.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's we saw her last year with her and her
husband and the band. It was a full band, phenomenal.
It was awesome. You know, she's one of these people
that I don't know how she does it, but she has.
She still has the jobs to sing like she used to.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, and then you see these other people out here.
You see like John bon Jovi lost his voice. You
hear Axel singing, you go ooh fu and they get
the whole Stanley. Yeah, oh yeah, we'll not good. I mean, yeah,
no one to retire. But then you get Sammy Hagar
still belting out here. Glenn Hughes, who I saw last
year is unbelievable. Oh and BCC is playing in Europe together.
(29:13):
It's like, Oh, and when Glenn Hughes, if Glenn Hears
goes anywhere near you, he's gonna play a retro retrospective
of his career on his next club tour in the US.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You gotta go.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
This guy's on not only a great singer, but a
great bass player. My wife was blown away and she
knew nothing about Glenn. He was like, going, this.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Guy is great. I'm like, God, I told you he
wasn't in Deep Purple and BCC and all these bands
just by chance.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah that when Glenn Hughes comes, bring Dana. She's not
gonna believe how great this guy can sing. Okay, I mean,
I mean, she's a singer. She'll she may not like
the music, but she'll appreciate the song. He sings ballads too,
So my wife like the slower songs and all that stuff.
But whatever the screaming is in when he screams, I mean,
(30:11):
the octave range is ridiculous. I mean so, and the
band he had was so good. Oh yeah, So anytime
Glenn Hughes comes anywhere near you, people out there go
see him because you know, we know how much longer
he's going to be around. So yeah, yeah, we're all
over the place, and he got anything else they add there, Dan.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I am going to see a tour called Legends of
Country Rock, okay, like Firefall and Hooko. Guys from those bands.
I don't exactly know what they're doing, but if they're
coming to the grand I'm going to work the show
and then go watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
How many guys in Poco are left? And how many
guys in Firefallo left?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, there's one main guy. I think he's the one
doing the tour because I think he in both bands.
But okay, I don't know anything about it other than
there's one other group.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I only know one Poco song. I know the bass
player in the Eagles was in Poco. Firefall. I know
the hits, but I couldn't tell you one person was
in the band because in the seventies, Firefall I had
like four or five songs that you heard on the radio. Yeah,
if I was there, i'd go to that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Why not? Okay, it's called Legends of country Rock featuring
Pure Prairie League, Firefall, and special guests Ricky Furrey from
Poco and Buffalo Springfield.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Okay, well you know what you're getting when you go
to that thing. But I remember all those bands. I
couldn't tell you one Pure Prairie League song, but it's
gonna be yeah, mellow country rock pretty much, and hopefully
they got good guys playing that stuff and it could
be great live or it could be a train wreck,
(32:01):
but I don't think it would be.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I don't know there'd be a train wreck because
it's not like Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh they're that's scary.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah. They they towed him out and he doesn't even sing.
He just like stands there and.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh yeah, he's he looks like he's on his last
legs and he's just moving his mouth. It's like a
wax figure and I you know, one of those things
you see it it's a small world moving.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Hey, yeah, animatronic.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah. When I saw the video that, I felt so
bad for that guy, Like, why are you doing to
this him? I mean, he can't be.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Like Phil Collins. Not that not that bad, but Phil
Collins isn't.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh that was that was sad too. It was like, oh, Phil,
I mean, must all those divorces. Maybe he's hurting for
money going out there perform performing in a wheelchair. Well
I saw it when I saw Sweet right before the
pandemic started. He was playing in a pretty much sitting
down in a chair. I mean he's saying great, and
he played bass great, but you could see, you know,
(33:07):
he look, he saw his arms and it was just
basically the skin falling off of his bones. He looked terrible.
And when he got up to leave, he had to
have the other three guys kind of almost pick him
up and walk them off stage because he could barely move.
It's like, oh, this guy's not gonna this guy's not
gonna make it. And sure enough, four months later he died.
(33:28):
I'm like, oh my god. But yeah, sometimes you got
to know when to walk away. It's like boxers, like
they stay around too long. I can go back and
be a champion again and no start to lose, give
it up. And like the UFC, you start to lose, boy,
(33:48):
they kick you out quick, don't they. You lost two
in a row. Well goodbye, we're not you know, we're
not reining your contract. You're out of here, You're get killed.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I don't know. All right, well, i'm calling it a night.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You're gonna call a night. So I might go to
Angel this weekend. And if I do, we'll come back.
I'll talk about that, and we'll hear about your country
rock experience.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
And I think there was one other show I'm going
to see let me see.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Here, Yeah, and we'll also Danny and I lately have
been just Danny's been still Vegas. He's been everywhere, Costa Rica.
I was in a reno and I'm going to Bois
So we sometimes things get crazy and we're trying to
get these shows out as quickly as we can, maybe
double up a couple of times. But you know, it
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seems like we got a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I knew, I knew I was going to one more show.
You'll love this one.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Who Ben fo.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
All from the ben Folts five that had three guys
in the band. Yeah, yeah, I know he's a talented
keyboard player, but I know I knew. I think I
knew one song from him, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Know that's more than I do. I don't know. It's
kind of he's doing a solo piano tour, so I'm
working that show and I'll I'll go in and watch.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Could be great, maybe a turn into a Ben Folds fan.
Apparently he's got quite the following and people respect him.
So absolutely, if you can go for free, that's me,
that's both of us really, even if we haven't heard
of somebody, and hey, it's not expensive, why not. Can't
hurt If it stinks, you can leave, so I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't mind going to these you know, working these shows.
You know. Oh, I know what I wanted to go
in and I see and I'm not enjoying it. I'm done.
I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, I know what I wanted to talk to you about.
Did you see the attendance at that board Rock festival
in Ocean City, you know, because we were we weren't
sure it was really going to work.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I am so glad I didn't go. Oh shit, they were.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It was like fifty they said, fifty to seventy thousand
people stuffed on that beach. On the beach, but then
he couldn't go in the water because they blocked that
part off. I mean, it looked like it was run
really well. But if you didn't pay for your VIP
tickets where you could go in the shade or sometime,
you were screwed.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And it was it was really sunny that whole weekend.
It was really nice. It wasn't hot, but oh my god,
I would not have been able to just stand on
the beach for eight hours.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, I mean, and I said, the only I would
listen to Eddy Trunk talk about it, says the only
bad thing is sometimes they had two bands going get
the same exact time. Fix that little thing and maybe
get some covers for some of these people. You can't
stick people out there for eight hours in the sun.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You're gonna get a.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Lot of injuries. But I guess they're gonna do that
thing next year because it really worked. They put the
nineties bands with the eighties band and even brought in
Alice Cooper's seventies band and it worked. So Yeah, people
like live music, yeah, if it's done right. And it
seems like they're trying to model after what they do
(37:12):
in Europe and those things always sell out over there.
But yeah, if I was going to do something like that,
I'd have to pay the extra money to do the
VIP thing. Where you could get some you can go
hide or they had some stands for those people so
they didn't have to stay they have to they could
actually sit down and watch some of the shows.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I would do. I would absolutely
do the VIP because I'm not standing on the beach
trade hours.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Because we're damn old.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I remember me and my friend Greg went to a
show one time. There was three bands that was like
Deep Purple, Survivor and somebody else, and we knew we
were getting old by the second band that came out.
We had to sit down. It's like this is great,
but oh my god, my feet are killing me, My
knees are killing me. And it was only the second band.
Oh my And we were all in our fifties at
(37:57):
the times, though.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
We weren't too well after eclipse.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, we remember.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Walking out of there going, oh Jesus Christ, we got
to walk to the car.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Now, Yeah, we're look and we went the Rainbow before
sitting down for an hour and a half. Yeah, we
were standing here.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
But that that was absolutely worth it.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Did we do a review of that show, yep down here.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yes we did. Yeah, so where thumbs up for Eclipse Live.
Hopefully they'll play somewhere around you guys in the future.
They seem to only do sporadic shows in the US,
and the Monsters are rock Cruises, And I also.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Saw that we saw their only second show in the US.
Great band, not including the Monsters of rock Cruise, don't
I don't got those as being in the US.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, they're doing the twenty six one already. But man,
I look at those prices like, I don't know, I
don't know if I can do that. Yeah, looks like
if you're probably cheaper if you go to some of
these destinations places and go see like four or five
bands in one place, like a little thing in Minnesota
of all places, and they got five bands playing there,
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Like okay, well I can afford that, get a hotel,
and by the ticket, that's a lot cheaper than paying
four grand for a cruise. Like we'll see. Maybe when
I retire, I'll do more of that stuff and we'll
figure out destinations to go to exactly. All right, on
that happy note, we're gonna say good night and we'll
see you in a few after our trips.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Everywhere, Yeah, after our summer begins.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yep, all right, see you all right, take care.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Well that was fun. Huh.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, I've got two shows out of that for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
How long have we been on? I can't even tell.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
This is an hour and thirty eight, but I but
it's probably gonna be like maybe one show will be
like forty minutes and the other will be thirties or
something like that. All right, I can put them on
a couple. Well, read it out. We'll have something to
talk about next time.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Nice And luckily it's it's only three eleven right now.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, time for me to go make some dinner because
Danila won't be home till least ten.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
O'clock and she'll be exhausted.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Watch the Phillies there you go.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
You know what, I've been watching. The College Baseball World
Series has been pretty good. Oh really, yeah, I mean,
I mean sometimes I watch the softball, but the baseball's
high scoring. And sometimes these schools that you'd think would win,
these SEC teams apparently they had eleven teams make the
playoffs and all only three of them are left. They're like,
(40:42):
so the big money schools are getting there, Like Murray
State is in the top eight.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Huh Murray State.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, And and Wright State almost made it like all
these smaller schools are challenging the big schools, so it's
kind of cool to see.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, I know softball is down to Texas versus Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Right, yeah, because Oklahoma'd already won four titles in a
row and they got knocked out.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So right, they got knocked out by Texas Tech. So
I was go Red Raiders.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, that's the only time I watched college baseball or
softball in the tournaments. That's pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Actually, we went to the girls championship soccer game for
high school when Caravell was playing. They won one nothing
in overtime. And then that was Sunday night. Monday night,
we went to the girls softball championship and Caravell won
that too. They must recruit, huh, Well, that's what everybody says.
(41:43):
And they won the basketball, the girls basketball championship for
the state, uh huh, And everybody's like, oh, they recruit
all down the East Coast. I'm married to the to
the admissions director. They don't recruit.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
People, just go there because the program is good.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, they go they It's like, you know, you get
the girls because your team is good. You don't you
don't get the girls to make your team good.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah you
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