Hard Rocking Trivia Show #291 (Top 21 Ace Frehley KISS songs!!!)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On your Mark, get ready.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Start broadcasting from California and Delaware. This is the Hard

(00:33):
Rocking Trivia Show and here're your host Mark and Danny.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
All right, everybody, welcome to The Hard Rocking Trivia Show,
Episode episode one nine to.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
I Think We're I Think we're two ninety one.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Oh man. Well, we'll sit down prizes for episode three hundred,
so everybody wait by your mailbox when that happens. Okay, yeah, right,
all right. So we're going to start off with a
little bit of six and thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Forty is a human number, it's number six.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
It's a game we came up with where we have
six songs with five seconds from each song, hence the
six and thirty and so usually these have a theme,
well they always have a theme, but the theme is
always different. Always just something we come up with off
the top of our head and we have no idea

(01:40):
what the other one has put together. We haven't listened
to them before we start listening to them on the show,
so it's all new to us. So my theme for
you Mark this time is these are songs being sung
by the second singer in the band. So second not yeah,

(02:01):
it's the second singer, Like if it was Toto, it
wouldn't be Bobby Kimball. It would be like Fergie, Frederick
sand or somebody like that. You know.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Oh, so the second lead singer.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Second lead singer, not like the a second lead singer
that started at the beginning of the band. Like Toto,
they had four singers. But and these are guys that
have only been on official releases, So these are not
guys that just subbed in live or anything like that.
So okay, these songs are the second singer of the band.

(02:35):
Sometimes they've been on one album, sometimes they took over
for a whole bunch of albums. So I'll be interested
to see how you do with this one.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh, which means it's going to be super hard.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Well, now you know you are a fan of all
of these bands, no question.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Okay, all right, so I get your pencil and paper out,
people and play along with me, and we'll see how
hard Danny made this this week. All right, here we go.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Fast.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Wow, I think I'm I think I got two.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Man, you're gonna kick yourself.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, I'm sure the ones I've heard of, I mean,
some of them sounded familiar, but I just wasn't sure,
all right, so I'm gonna play play this again and
see how I do here.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
Okay, all right again, God, that so sounds so familiar.

(04:28):
Oh okay, it's a guest, alright, alright. Number one, I
think that it's Foreigner.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
That is correct. That is Johnny Edwards singing. Yes, yes,
great voice.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah yeah. It's one of those guys who was in
a couple of bands and it just didn't quite work
out from the timing was off. But he's a great singer.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Number two I think is Alice in Chains.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
That is correct. That was William Duval's singing that. And
that's the only song he sang on his first album. Okay, yeah,
sang everything else.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Oh, Jerry can't, I can't Okay, all right, all right.
The third song is called all for You, but it
doesn't bring a bell. I'm gonna Danger, Danger.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
No that That is the only song released by this singer.
Even though he's kind of famous for being in this band.
He went on to be in Vinnie Vincent's Invasion.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh Journey, yep, yeah, I don't where's that from.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
It's the Time three or Time Cubed album. The only
song that was released with him singing.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
With Robert Fleshman, Yeah, who wrote Wheel in the Sky.
But I I knew that song. I know that song existed,
but at time that time three, I think it was
called I just never really listened to it.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, there's some that's the only song he ever sang
that was released anyway. Yeah, pretty interesting because he kind
of killed her voice.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, he's still releasing music today. But it's another one
of those super talented guys. He just was didn't quite
make it. He's in Vinny Vincent Invasion and he never
he recorded that album, but he never toured with them.
He left after that.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, that was a great album, well both of us.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Benny was a great all right. Number four I thought
you were being kind of tricky. Then I remembered Ian
Gillan was the second singer in Deep Purple.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
That's Deep Purple, That is correct.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Number five was the easiest one for me. That's Ripper Owens.
That's Judas Priest.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
That's now number six. Ah, God, it's a heavier band.
I'm gonna say Accept.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
No, No, I actually looked at Accept and thought thought
about using them, but no, it was a little that
was a little bit too obvious.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Alright, so give me another hint.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
There are actually two versions of this band when they
split it.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Okay, that could be that could be White did it?
La Guns? Did that?

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Is it one of those?

Speaker 8 (07:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah? Those that song? That song sounded too heavy to
be either one of those bands.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
There's a lot heavier songs. I'm surprised because this is
not usually quite that heavy of a band.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
God, I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
The singer's name is Doogie White.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Dookie White has sung with everybody. Uh, he was in
he was like the third or fourth singer Rainbow. Oh
Doogie White.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Huh it was not Rainbow.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
I know it's not Rainbow because he was like and
he was in Deep Purple too, I think, but that
was later on. He was like the fourth or fourth
or fifth. God, it's gotta be European then Alcatraz.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
That's correct, is it? Oh?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Shoot?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
He was in the Jimmy Waldo version as opposed to
the Grand Boni version.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh okay, yeah, so I missed that. So I I
got four, which I did better than I actually thought
I would do four. Six.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
I thought you'd do about that good?

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, okay, damn it? All right? All right, yours again? Well,
I've heard of all those bands, and for sure I
think i've seen I've seen all of them live. The
ones you just did for me, all of you. The
bands I picked for you are all Californian bands that

(09:35):
debuted in the eighties. So eighties bands that debuted, and
they're all from California. Now I just saw this. I mean,
that's that's a lot of bands. But I think I
picked some more obscure songs because you've probably seen almost
all of these bands. Looking at the list, maybe five

(09:59):
out of six you've seen live. Wow, and you've heard
of them all. It's not like some obscure like band.
Oh it's this obscure band that never got a record deal. No,
these are all bands that got record deals. You've heard
them on radio, you've seen them on MTV. But this
is not the most common song from them. So good
luck with that. This one might be hard. Maybe we'll see.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay, let's see.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
Us, man, it's gotta says.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay, I'm sure you knew something was right away.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
I think I got three.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Okay, wow, Okay, you can make it a little challenge,
and you've been killing it the last month.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
So yeah, let's see. Let's see how this goes. Here
we go one more.

Speaker 9 (11:14):
Time, dudes, jusy man, you been any.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I gotta feel.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
It's gotta say.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
It's all right, Dan, twice in a row. You should
know most of them. So let's see how you do.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
I'm just gonna guess on the first one. Just is
that wig wan.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
We want we Whams from Norway. These are all California bands.
I'll give you another guess. Come on, If this.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Is how is gonna go, then we're gonna have a
long session right here.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yes we are.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Let's see California band.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Rat no incorrect. That song and the name of that
song was loose Booty by a Faster pussy Cat. It
is goofy as hell too, but it's fun. Oh yeah,
you probably like playing that one.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Yeah, all right. Second one, that's Tesla.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
It is Tesla jee. I think Jeff Keith's voice gave
that one away.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, he didn't go all Jeff Keith too much on it.
But number three, when I first heard it, I thought
enough's enough. But they're from Illinois. Mm hmmm, So I'm
gonna I'll just guess. Oh, I'll guess Rat on that one.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
L a Guns. I think I thought maybe Phil's voice
would give that away. Yeah, number four is gonna it's
gonna be tough because it's not the lead singer singing
on that song. Okay, it's actually the drummer, so good luck.
On number four.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
It sounds like Michael Monroe, but he ain't even from
this country.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Noop Uh.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
It's the drummer singing, no freaking clude.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
And I think it's the only song he sings in
that band. And it's a big band. They were pretty big.
You've heard of them. I'm not sure if you've seen them, lie,
but you'll know you know the band.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Let's see. I've seen Faster Pussy Can't, Tesla and Ellie Guns.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, so this one I'm not sure about you.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Okay, Oh, I have no clue.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
So the guy's singing is now no longer in the band.
He's retired from music. Probably doesn't help at all.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Doesn't No, I'm just hey, Rat, he is.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Not Rat, but but I mean they're they're they're very
close to Rat as docin. That's wild mc brown singing.
It's called crazy. Mary goes around on erase the slave.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Wow, I'm one for three or one for four.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Jesus, you're gonna nail.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
The next one I have not seen Docin.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh yeah, that's I figured that might be the only
one you haven't out of this list.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
The next one I know is guns N' Roses from
the Spaghetti Incident.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Correct, New Rose, it's a cover, so.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yeah. And the last one I think I remember, that's Warrant.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
You would be correct. Yes, So you got three out of.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Four, three out of four and.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, three, excuse me, three out of six. But you've
seen five out the six bands live. But unfortunately Docin
is not worth singing anymore because Don can't sing anymore.
It's the guys in his band are great, and they
help out on vocals and they can play their butts off.
But unfortunately, with all the issues Don's had with surgeries,

(15:43):
and he had a back surgery that left his arm paralyzed,
so he couldn't play guitar anymore, and it's just been
it's been.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, he's of him stuff, sitting on the drum riser singing.
I don't want to see that.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, it's just like when we saw when we saw
Jack Russell towards the end. I mean he he, I mean,
he wasn't originally like five foot ten, but at the
end he was like five foot two and he's all
crumpled up. He could still sing, but the guy didn't
look like he was long for this world. It's like
when I saw a suite with the Steve Priest. He

(16:23):
was basically in a wheel. He was in a chair
playing the entire show and he could still sing and
he could still play, but the band had to help
him walk him off stage because he couldn't walk barely,
and then he died a couple of months later. It
was like, really sad, but sorry to bring everybody down
on that one. We're gonna switch things up, so that's

(16:44):
our six and thirty bit. We're gonna give you a
quick commercial break and then we're gonna come back with.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Even even more down.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
No, we're gonna well, we're gonna know, we're gonna focus
on the positives in this one, so we'll be right.
We'll be back. All right, Boys and Girls were back
at the Hard Rocking Trivia Show, episode ninety one and Uh.
This past couple of weeks, unfortunately somebody from our childhood
passed away and that beat on lead guitar, Ace Frehley

(17:17):
from Kiss and Uh it was Danny's first concert ever.
So and then I think I was a I became
a fan when I was twelve when I got Destroyer
for Christmas. So after that, every band after that, it
all starts with Kiss. So having eight pass.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
I saw them in December of seventy seven at the
CAP Center with my dad, my brother, and I actually
saw that show on YouTube like two weeks ago. Yeah,
so I watched it and man, PAULM. Banter is so bad.
Oh yeah, just Cornie, just we know you.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Won a rock and roll Yeah yeah. But when we
were twelve and thirteen, we thought it was the greatest ever.
And then even in my twenties, I think, oh my,
miss all kissing in the eighties, Oh, Paul's the coolest.
And then you started hearing realizing that he was doing
the same thing at every show, even the thing with

(18:23):
oh you got that laser point, get that laser pointer
out of my arm. I'm gonna come down there and
kick your ass, he said almost every show, and then
the silly things with I'm gonna bring this out. You
got the biggest nurse I've ever seen and she pulled
my you know, all that silly stuff, but it worked.
It worked.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
I got a ton of fans.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Right, I mean, the show is fantastic, but what saved
the band was the songs were good. Songs were catchy.
If the songs are terrible, they'd be six sick spot Nick,
you know who remembers the great look but or the
New York Dolls. The New York Dolls had this great
Androgyns look, but their songs were terrible. So yeah, Kiss

(19:05):
had the songs had, the show had everything. I mean
we became fans of everything that came after that, but
it all goes back, all goes back to Kiss. And
you see all these people on on you know, Instagram
and x and Facebook talking about this guy was a
hero to everybody. I mean, Ace Freely wasn't the greatest
guitar player ever, but his solos were kind of things

(19:28):
you could sing along to the or like songs within songs.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Absolutely and you can sing along with them as the
song is going on, or if you know, if you
thought about the the main theme of love, gun or something,
you could sing that that solo.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, fantastic, And what stinks was he was supposed to
play and the lancaster like he's supposed to playing lancaster
were quiet right and Vixen, and he canceled like two
days prior and that was supposed to be one of
his last shows and he never played again. And I

(20:08):
was I was actually thinking about going to that. I
go see Ace. I know he's not doing that great,
but still it's Ace Frehley. I mean I saw I
didn't get to see him when you got to see
him when the Kiss was in the makeup. First first
time I saw him was in a place that we
went to in Ventura where we saw John Oates play.

(20:29):
I saw this solo tour where Ace Freeley played with
his band and then Peter Cris played with his band
and at the end they played together. Yeah, this was
in the nineties. It was great. Oh wow, so that's yeah.
And then I saw the reunion tour and I saw

(20:50):
Ace playing with you know, solo stuff too, you know. Yeah,
but we figured what we do. A lot of people are,
you know, and I haven't seen nobody do this yet.
A lot of people are you know, telling their Ace
stories and how they Hey, we influenced everybody. So what
we decided to do is we took every song that
Ace has a writing credit on, or every Kiss song

(21:15):
and Ace has a writing credit or the ones he
sings lead on. And we came up and this is
the makeup ear So we came up with twenty one songs,
and Danny ranked him on his own and I ranked
him on my own, and we put together this list,
and some of the songs Danny and I don't agree
with because we didn't consult each other. So when he

(21:37):
sent me his list and went, what I mean, I
think at the top we're pretty locked in. But there's
some in there where I market super low and Danny
market mid to high. And there's one song in particular,
and here I put it in the top five and
Danny had it in the bottom five, so he doesn't

(21:59):
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
I seen. I haven't seen March list at all. I
sent him my list because he was gonna put together
a compilations, so we were we get a hard rocking
trivia show version instead of our own ones. You know,
For me, I ranked the top I don't know eight
or nine, and then I definitely had a bottom three
or four. But then the middle ones, like I don't

(22:23):
know eleven through sixteen or seventeen, it's a toss up,
you know. They it's funny because they're all kinds of
similar songs, especially the early Kiss songs that I have
in the middle. Just I listened to him a few
times and then I go back and think, well, wait,
which one was that again?

Speaker 4 (22:44):
But yeah, and there was only there was like two.
I had to go, especially the ones on Psycho Circus
because two of them are on the original Race and
one of them is a bonus track. So I had
to go on YouTube and see if I remembered it
was any good or not. And I a couple of them.
I went, oh, this is better than I thought it was.
Then one of them was like, oh, this is not good.

(23:04):
I go, I still don't like it. But the album's
it range starts with the first Kiss album, goes to
Unmasked in the Elder and it skips because even though
Ace's picture is on Creatures the Night, he doesn't play
on it, didn't write anything for it. And it goes
from there and it bounces the Psycho Circus because there

(23:26):
are some actual A songs on there, even though he
barely played on it. So we're gonna go from twenty
one down to one. So this is gonna be a surprise,
all right, We'll start from the bottom and work our
way up, and I think number twenty one is not
gonna be a surprise to Danny or myself. Oh by
the way, here's how we scored the points since there

(23:46):
was If it was our number one song, he gets
twenty one points. Number two song gets twenty all the
way down to number twenty one, which gets one point,
and this song came in and got five points at
number twenty one from Unmasked talked to.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Me, Yeah, yeah, I had you know, I've definitely had
my bottom two, but talk to me. It was definitely
down there for I had it in nineteen.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
But yeah, not great and funny enough. My brother really
liked talk to Me, and I went, I don't know
why they put this one on the album. I don't
like it that much. Let me see where did I
put I put it? Yeah, I had a number twenty
out of twenty one, so it wasn't the worst song,

(24:34):
but it was definitely not one of the top ones.
It's one I definitely skip when I listen to Unmasked,
and there's a lot of songs unmasks I do like.
This ain't one of them. So twenty one is talked
to Me right now. Here's another not even a surprise
and number twenty off of the same album. It's the
goofiest song on the album. It's Torpedo Girl, which got

(24:58):
nine points. Yeah, I let me see I'm mar I
put it eighteen and you had a pretty You were like, yeah,
so pretty similar. It's a goofy, goofy song. The lyrics
are ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yeah, I when I when I first saw it on
your list, I saw Vinnie Ponzire writing, yeah, that might
help it. No, no, it didn't.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
And I don't hate the song, which is weird because
I know it's a goofy song. I know the lyrics
are terrible and this is supposed to be an homage
to Ace, but we're talking about the bad parts here.
I don't hate the song. Oh yeah, we're gonna get
the positives. So this is Ace was always hit or missy.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
He was.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
He didn't want to sing. Originally they forced him to sing.
When they sung shocked me. The band did they want
to They wanted to be like the Beatles were all
four guys sang And it turns out I mean when
they had their solo albums, Ace had the highest charting
single out of all of them, which was surprise to everybody,
and that was.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
His solo album just in general, is way way better
than any of the other three. It's not even close.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, And I intentionally the seventy eight solo album I
didn't put on this list because if we'd have done that,
most of those songs that will be been way up there.
So that album is great. Maybe in the future we'll
do all a solo albums, but then we have to
go back and listen to the terrible ones too, So
I don't know if we're gonna do that, but they
that seventy eight album is awesome, all right. Coming in

(26:32):
at nineteen our first song from the Elder and that
is dark Light. It's okay. I think the solo is
pretty good in it, and I think Anton Fig plays
in it, and the drumming is good on it. Yeah,
it's not my favorite kiss song. I had it at nineteen,

(26:52):
which is here's an unusual thing. Anton Fig and lou
Reid got co writes on dark Light.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Yeah, where was lou Reid from in Front?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think they wanted to be legit because he also
co wrote A World Without Heroes, So I list I
don't know what the Love New York and Rolling Stone
loved lou Reed, But to me, he's the Walk on
the wild Side Guy, which is a great song. But
after that, I'm not a fan. I don't get it. Nope, No, Yeah,

(27:22):
dark Light is okay.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
I had it at sixteen, and like I said, the
middle teens say, they could have been anywhere. That could
have been twelve for me.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
But all right, now here's one that off of the
first album that you ranked really low and I had
it in the mid range. Okay, so we're a little
I think I had this at fourteen And what did
you have it at?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
So you already know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Well, there's only two songs from the first album.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
That's love theme from Kiss. Then I like that song.
I like it. It's the dark part dum dun dun dumb,
and then the Peter Criss drums. I like that. It's goofy,

(28:16):
but it breaks the album up. I don't know you guys,
you didn't like as much as I did.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, I didn't. I don't think that's a good song
at all. I think it's just something they would fall
around with. But hey, we need another song, so put
that on there.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Kind of like an instrumental filler because we can't figure
out any lyrics to this song. Maybe maybe I don't know.
I don't hate it, but you apparently do.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Well, all right, here's a song that you brought up
to me before we started recording, and you had it
ranked really low. It comes off a dynasty and it's
save your Love.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Horrible, horrible song, say it, say it?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Oh my gosh, yeah, you had this is the worst song.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yep, I do. And that was no. Uh, there was
no thought about that. Like I said, I ranked the
top I don't know, seven or eight, and then the
bottom two were easy, bottom three or four were easy.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
I ranked it at eleven. No, I get it because
the first part of the song and the chorus isn't
very good. But I think the song really kicks in
at the solo once the solo hits. From the solo
to the end of the song, I think it's great.

(29:41):
The beginning part, eh, it's okay. I see why they
stuck it at the end of the album. I think
even Sebastian Bach covered this one. So I get the
first half of the song is okay, solo great and
on for me. Apparently you hated the entire song.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, I just maybe I'm being in pay or something,
but I can't get buy the horrible background vocals and chorus.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Save it, Save it? Yeah, eh, okay, well we kind
of disagree on that one, but that's all right, all right,
all right. Now here's a song number sixteen. I rank
this dead last. I hate this song. It's off a

(30:26):
Psycho circus and it's called you Want It the Best?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, and you got the Best?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
No, we didn't. The idea of the song having all
four guys sing good. Idea the song, Oh, I mean
when they sing in each of their parts. Cool. That
chorus sucks.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
You wanted the best? Yeah, you got it?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
No, it's no, we don't. That's horrible. I hate that song. Good.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
I put that at nine. I was expecting to hate it,
you know, and then I listened to it back again.
It's like, that's not that's not too bad.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I think you're watching the Tech game when they came
back and won and overtime, and you were in a
really good mood, and you must have been listening to
that song as the game was going on. That's the
only thing I can come of it, Because.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
I was I was watching the Dodgers get beat. So
I was in a good mood. You were in a
good mood. So for me, you wanted. The best is
much worse than Save your Love. Save your Love buries it.
It's not even close. No, I don't even I don't
even know you anymore?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Who are you?

Speaker 5 (31:48):
No? You? One of the Best is not that bad.
You need to listen to it again.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
But save I listened to it twice. No, of course,
I think. Yeah, I think that both of those songs
have bad choruses. I think that's the main thing. Yeah,
if you got a bad chorus, it's not gonna work,
all right. Number fifteen, well, I was kind of surprised
that this one didn't get that much love. It's off

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a dress to kill. It's get Away, which Ace doesn't sing,
but he wrote it. I got to get Away, and
it's on It's Peter, isn't it. Yeah, Peter sings Getaway.
It's good, it's decent, but I thought it would get
a little more love than it did.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
So well, yeah, I put this at thirteen, and I,
you know, like I said, the middle teens, they could
have been anywhere.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
So yeah, I had a fifteen.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
See this, this and a lot of those right there,
from Dressed to Kill and Hodder in Hell. You know,
they were all kind of right in the middle for me,
and so they were all kind of interchangeable.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think I have a little more love for the
Hotter in Hell songs than you did, but I don't know. Yeah,
all right, Number one, number fourteen is the highest song
from Unmasked, and that's two sides of the Coin.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't think that was bad.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
Yeah, choose one, Yeah, it's it's it's the catchiest song
of the three Unmasked songs from Ace.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
I think they were trying to ride that New York
groove wave still but exactly.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
I think that he's trying to be like a New
York dude.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah. I think he got his confidence in there and said,
let's put three A songs on this album. Two sides
of the Coin's all right, I don't I don't dislike
it at all. Yeah, okay, number yes for sure. And
Torpedo Girl, which I still like Torpedo Girl. I think
Torpedo Girl for me, and two sides of the Coin.

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I had them right next to each other. I had
one at seventeen even one at eighteen, so I don't
hate either one, all right. Number thirteen is a surprise
for me because I marked you mark this pretty high
and I put it pretty low. And it's the bonus
track from Psycho Circus in Your Face. I didn't rank

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it very high.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I really like that song.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I had it at sixteen, Yeah, I had it at eight.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Yeah, I mean there must. I mean I have all
the songs in Psycho Circus in your Face. I don't
dislike it. Maybe it should they should have been on
the regular album. There's a couple of songs on Psycho Circus,
the need to you wanted the best boot that one
and put it in your Face in its place, I
think in your Face is a lot better than you

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wanted the best. Now it's stuck in my head.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah you got it.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
No, not working for me. Now the songs are gonna
get progressively better and like him a lot more well,
even though, all right, uh yeah. Number twelve off of
Hotter and Hell Strange Ways, which is Gene sings. Ace

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wrote it, and I think it's got a killer, killer
solo in it, and it's really it's really a dark
song and it's probably grun before grunge Strange Ways was
the grunge kiss super heavy? No, it's not a party
song at all.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
No, No, And maybe that's what I was expecting or wanted.
But I had that at fourteen, so not too far off.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, I can still listen to that go back. I
can appreciate Hotter and Hill a lot more. Strange Ways
should be. I'm surprised to see when Ace did his
solo tours, he would play like Cold Gin and Deuce
and stuff like that, and he played Detroy Roxy. I'm like, why, yeah,
play play some of these the songs we were about
to talk about.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Absolutely, I don't get it all right.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
At number eleven from Destroyer Flaming Youth, which is song
I really liked and I was I remember when they
were the Destroyer tour and they would I think I
was in Texas and they would have the TV commercials
and they would play Flaming Youth during it. Like wow,

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I'm surprised it wasn't a single, but I always like that.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
I think, to me, that song's okay. I mean, I
had it at twelve, so, you know, not too far off,
but I it just seems so overproduced. I think I
think bob Azron just went a little crazy on that one.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Oh yeah, especially with the keyboards in it. The circus, Yeah,
because kids doesn't have those instruments on stage. Where's that
coming from? A lot of people forget I mean we
were younger. But when Destroyer came out, there was a
huge backlash. A lot of people didn't like it at

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first because after the three First three and Alive, how
raw and heavy it was. Then bob Ezrin came in
and had this polished album. It kind of tanked initially,
but what brought it back was Beth. Beth hit and
Kiss exploded from there. It's weird. It's like more than

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words for extreme. I mean that they came out with
that and that band blew up. So Beth is essentially
what made Kiss that name, even though it's not a
heavy song at all. A ballad of all things is what.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Put I could do without Bear and Beth ever.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Again, yeah, I could care less all right? Number ten?
This song is interesting. This is the song that I
had super high and you had it super low. You
had it at eighteen and I had it at four.

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It's a dynasty. It's hard times, do Dan. I love
hard times? I wish Ace would play that, would have
played that on his solo tours. Love it, love it,
love it. It's great, fabulous. Now let's hear the opposing
view of that.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
No, No, I just didn't do it.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
You know.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
It's one of those middle teens for me. That's just
kind of they're like all the others. But just I
could have had it a twelve or fourteen. But no,
it's it's.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Just it's one of my favorite songs off A Dynasty.
All right, love it? I don't. I don't know. You
must have. Maybe Dana made a made some food for
you and it was a little burnt and tough, you know.
I don't know. Maybe it was one of those off
off nights of the year where burnt.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
Dana does not cook for me.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Oh, that's right, you're the cook.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
I am the cook.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
It's me. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Maybe I spoiled something or whatever.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Maybe you got a beer and it was stale.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
While I was doing that.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Maybe it just wasn't It wasn't doing it for you
at that time. Ninety nine out of one hundred times,
you would have rated it much higher if the beer
was cold enough. Maybe it was stale. I don't know,
all right, can't be right on all of them?

Speaker 5 (39:45):
Well, right, can't.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Number nine a song I liked much better than you did.
It's off a hotter in Hell. It's coming Home, Yeah
I had I had at six Yeah, you had it
at sixteen something fifteen.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Yeah, But again, the middle, those middle songs just kind
of don't do much for me at all. Just you know,
I had to go back and which one was that again?
Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Think I always liked it. But when they did that
Unplugged tour and they brought that one out, I think
that's when I really started to like it.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
So okay, well you saw that to herself.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
I did, and uh, Peter Chris came out during it.
It was pretty awesome. I think that was that sowed
the seeds there. I mean that whole Kiss Convention thing.
The opening band was Cole Jen, which had Tommy Thayer
playing Kissing playing Ace in it, and the drummer was
Jamie Saint James on drums. Uh, the bass player was

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from Saigon Kick and I forgot the other guy in
the band, but they were great. You know, they dressed
up in the makeup and did the whole show. And
who knew a few years later Tommy Thayer would actually
be in Kiss. I saw Tommy walk around the parking lot.
He had short hair, he was the tour managing the band.
I mean I was a Black and Blue fan, so
I recognized him right away, but nobody else did heartily.

(41:12):
Nobody paid Aim much attention. But yeah, coming home, I
mean it warms my heart. Here's another shocker for me
because I this one came in eight. It's off a
Psycho Circus Into the Void, which scored a lot higher

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than a lot of the other songs. Where did I.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Have it at great song? I had it at seven,
so you must have had it at like nine.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
I had at thirteen, so it's not that far off. Yeah,
it's one of the better songs off of Psycho Circus
for sure. Yeah I would. I had to go back
and listen to it again. It's like, Okay, this is
better than I thought it was. And it's unfortunately with
the whole psych Go Circus thing where Ace and Peter
are barely on this thing. Yeah they they're all on.

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You wanted the best, but into the Boys. Basically it's
all Ace, all him, and it makes it's a good song. Again.
Ace never didn't really play this on his solo bands.
Would have been cool to hear that. Yeah, all right,
now we're getting to the really good stuff. All right,

(42:28):
here we go. Number seven off a Dynasty two thousand man,
the Rolling Stones cover.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Yeah, that's a good version.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Oh it's better than the Rolling Stones version, I.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Think, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
I mean when you first did you even know the
Rolling Stones version? When you heard this song by Kiss?

Speaker 5 (42:48):
No?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
No, I didn't either. Yeah, since then I listened, went, oh,
Ace may actually made this better. Sounds like a kiss
song that yeah, the Stones, I mean two thousand and
man is a d cut on The Stones albums and
it was not a single. But yeah, love it, love it,
love it, love it? Yeah all right. Number six the

(43:12):
signature a song off of love.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Gun Shock Me.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
I have this Number three. This is one of my
all time favorite A songs, well all favorite kiss songs.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Reminds me of a Buck Cherry song. Oh yeah, yeah,
kindness Ony think you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Yeah, the U that's the same.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Yeah, when you're listening back to back, you go ho
come Mace didn't get a writing credit off of it.
I mean Buck Cherry were obviously Kiss fans, so it
makes perfect sense. The song is based off of a
real live incident that happened, and I think it was Lakeland,
Florida where they Kiss used to have these stages. I
think it's probably the Love Gun tour where they had

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the railing and you had to walk down the stairs
and Ace was had these giant heels on it and he
was notoriously clumsy, which is weird. He fell down the
stairs and that's what killed him. Sorry, I brought the
whole show down, but he got he put his hand
on the railing and I guess his guitar wasn't grounded

(44:21):
for some reason. I don't know the whole logistics of
what guitars and he got shocked and he fell down
the stairs, and that's whe the song came from. So
does that really happen anymore with guitars not really anymore?

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Like you used to you couldn't play in the rain,
you know, if it rained and you were playing an
outside game. But now no, they they've set it up
to where that doesn't that doesn't can't happen.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Was it because the guitars were all plugged in instead
of like having those battery packs on. Is that one
of the reasons why.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
That's one, that's definitely one of the reasons. Yeah. But
you know, even if they were plugged in and you
you still ground everything altogether.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Okay, So SOMMROADI must have really screwed up.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Yep, all right. I don't know if they knew that
much about well, they had to have known about grounding.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I mean, yeah, that's maybe maybe somebody just made one
because it never only happened at one time and it
wasn't like it was the beginning first date of the tour.
I don't think so. It was one of those weird
things where somebody did just missed one step and setting
up the equipment. I don't know, all right, And now
we're up to the top five Kiss songs, and this

(45:36):
song is the biggest surprise in the top five because
you and I both rated it high and I bet
you most kiss fans, not the hardcores, know this one,
this song, but the casual kiss sans don't know this song.
It's off of Music from the Elder. It's Escape from
an Island. Love it great song, My favorite song on

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the Elder for sure. Yeah, he should have been playing
this one too, absolutely but I don't. I don't know
why he didn't. It's he doesn't have to sing on it.
Maybe he can't, Maybe he couldn't play it later in life.
I don't know. But Anton Fig kills it on this song.
It's fantastic. Love it, love it, love it.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Love it, even just being an instrumental. It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Co written with Eric Carr. So what it wouldn't be
Anton Figure would been Eric Carr. Yeah, yeah, because Anton
Fig was on Dynasty and Unmasked, so that was definitely
Eric Carr. Eric Carr and Ace kill it on that song.
It's great. It's probably the only song that those two

(46:51):
who are now reunited, right, yeah, reuni up in heaven.
Yeah yeah, if you believe I believe in heaven, Eric
car and Ace and Mark Saint John are the ones
that are up there. More of them are down here
than up there. And I'm not saying way down here

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now on earth, and then if you believe in that,
that's where they are sore. So that's kind of a
nice feeling, all right. Number four, we're coming with the
the heavyweights.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Here we all time classic A songs.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Number four Cold Gin all right song they Kiss played
to the very end. And it's funny because you know
Ace wrote it, Jeane singing it, sings it, and Jane
doesn't drink. Where was the thinking, so, you know, Peter.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
I guess that first album Jean said, Hey, I'm I'm
saying that one.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
And I want to say it okay, but I would
have thought the two guys that drink in the band,
Paul and Peter. But it works. It's a great song.
It's still a staple. Every Kiss fan knows. It can't
go wrong with that number three rock bottom but not

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the UFO song.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Not but I like. I like the intro though I
think it's too long on the album, but you know,
they absolutely away on the album.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
But oh yeah, I'm also wondering because live Paul plays
the intro, and I'm wondering in the studio is that
Paul playing the intro to or is that Ace playing
the intro?

Speaker 5 (48:53):
It's hard to tell because, uh, you know, it's doubled.
The guitars are doubled when they play it live. Yeah. Uh.
And in the studio you got at least two playing it,
probably four, so it could have been Paul and A's
playing together. You have to go back and look at
the SiO Records.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
That song kicks major ass for sure, all right down.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
To the top two. And these are the top two
that I picked.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Yeah, I was close top two for sure, and number
two was not a hit. It's a song that didn't
play that very often. It's also a song that Anthrax
covered because it's heavy as all get out and it's Parasite.
I had Parasite at five, but two I had five

(49:50):
because hard time is it?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, but I.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Get this song Parasite, no question.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Oh it's great, love it. But there's one song for
me that's a little better. But yeah, Parasite. All heavy
bands can play it. It's just a heavy song.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
The hard rock rips so cool and yeah, the I
don't know what Anthrax does with their guitar tone, but
it is amazing. And this song with Anthrax and guitar
tone is just killer, unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
And I bet you when Anthrax plays again, I bet you.
Since they were such hardcore Kiss fans and Ace fans,
I could see them playing this song for sure. Yeah,
they also did love her all I can off of
Dress to Kill, I can see them.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
I've heard a bunch of.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah, so if they played parasite. That would be great.
It makes purpose saw.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
I saw a video of A's playing It was like
an all star band. Scott Ian was on guitar, Frankie
Bello on bass, Mike Portnoy playing drums, and there was
one other guitar player, yeah, I think it was was
playing the solo and just, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
I think that was that thing in Vegas where it
was like they put an all star band together there
to celebrate kiss And I do remember that I forgot
who else was there, all right down to number one,
number one, And this song was one of the bonus
tracks off Alive too, and it also charted I think

(51:43):
it got to thirty nine or in the forties. It
wasn't quite a hit, it should have been.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Yeah, this was on the side core a lot with
what four or five studio.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Songs, yeah, five, And it was the best song of
the bunch, even though there was a couple of good
ones there too.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
And it's rocket Ride, Rocket Ride, Baby wants, Baby wants
a class, she wants.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
A rock and ride, She wants a rock and ride.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
And here's the question, why why wasn't Ace's band playing
Rocket Ride at every show?

Speaker 5 (52:20):
So great? Maybe they don't like it. I can't imagine.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Maybe he didn't. Well, his band could have easily pulled
it off because the guys the band that he had
was the Geene Simmons band. He actually stole the band,
and those guys could play. Those guys could play anything.
And I think they were they wanted, they wanted him
to play it. But maybe he just wasn't into it.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
That's too bad, because that's amazing. I had that at
number two.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Yeah, so I added one edit too, so we're we're
both right on that one.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah, no question. My top five could have been pretty
much in any word.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Yeah, my top five all yeah, there's only one exceptions. Yeah.
Mine was Parasite, Hard Times, Cold Gin, rock Bottom, and
Rocket Ride. The only one you disagree with was hard Times. Yeah,
and I had come I'd coming home at six. Jeez,

(53:25):
well we both we both can agree. We have good taste.
I go for it.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Top five Parasite, Rocket Ride, Shock Me, rock Bottom, and
Cold Gin so I'm more old school. Yeah, and then
Escape from an Island.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yeah, your list is pretty good. I can't faulter for
your top five for sure, it doesn't It makes perfect sense.
I was. I was just kind of surprised you rated
the Psycho Circus songs a little higher than I did.
I I remember I.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
I don't like this. I don't have a problem at
all of it.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
There's a couple of clinkers on there. I don't like
that song within and I saw them do that live
when I saw them at Dodger Stadium. The Gene song
and Dreaming was a complete ripoff of eighteen by Alice Cooper.
In fact, they got sued for it. I think did Yeah,
it sounds way too much like it. So you played

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eighteen and in Dreaming back to back, you go, Oh,
same chord progression.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
I get it, okay.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
I think with the whole with the Psycho Circus, the
hype was there because the band reunited. Oh they're going
to record again. When it came out that now I
was really pretty much just Gene and Paul, and they
threw Ace and Peter a little bone. They didn't play together.
I mean, I think Peter Chris I maybe played on
one song, maybe Ace maybe played on two. Well, you

(54:58):
guys are ripping us off.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
Come on, well, that's part of being a kiss fan.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Disappointed, being disappointed.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Being ripped off.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Oh well, I know, and I still love Kiss, but
I wouldn't. I don't. I'm I wouldn't pay a lot
of money to go see them again, you know, even
though they were retired kind of. They're doing this thing
in Vegas where it's supposed to be like being on
a cruise, but you're in Vegas. But it's only three

(55:30):
fourths of the band that. I don't know what the
deal with Eric Singer is. Maybe they low balled Eric
Singer and he said, you know what, I'm done, give
me a break.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
I'm getting ripped off by you too.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah, because Tommy and Eric were you know, they're not.
They weren't full members. They were just guys, you know,
paid salary guys. It's Rad and Gane and Paul don't
even own the band anymore. They sold all the rights everything,
They sold that to that company that does the avatars.

(56:06):
All their rights have been sold both they have. They
owned no part of it whatsoever. And uh, believe it
or not, one of the guys in Abba owns Kiss really. Yep.
It's a Swedish company, so that guy's bank.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Yeah, those guys in Ava the smartest businessman musicians. I mean,
they they're wealthier than just about everybody.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Great songwriters and great businessmen. Yeah. So yeah, apparently that
Abba thing in London with the Avatars is fantastic because
it's the watch the Avatars, but it's an actual band
playing there there. I think they're under the stage. I
think part of them. It's supposed to be fantastic. I mean,
if I was in London, i'd go see it.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
Yeah, I've seen the Abba tribute band that comes around.
They're called Oh Shoot right from Sweden.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
There's a lot of of a cover bands.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Well this this one there they have the two girls
up front that looked just like them, two other background singers.
The whole show's fantastic and they sound exactly like the band.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
That's pretty cool. Yeah, so if they come around here,
I would take silly to go see that. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Oh. I got a call today from James, a friend
of mine, that he said, would you go see Rush
in Philly? I said, yeah, yeah, I go see Rush.
I mean I've seen Rush like ten times. I said, yeah,
I'd go see him. He said, well, tickets are four
hundred bucks. I said nope, and those are the cheapest ones.

(57:48):
I said, no, I'm not doing that. Four hundred bucks
to see Rush without Neil, No, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
That's one of those things with Neil. But uh yeah,
I think the most I've ever paid. I think I
paid three hundred to see the Renette You Reunited Kiss.
That's the most I've ever paid for a show. And
I had I had to go because I never got
to see them when I was a kid. But yeah,
I wouldn't pay four. I mean, i'd go see it

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if it was I'd go see it for a hundred. Yeah,
four hundred.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
I might do it for two. But you know that
just four hundred bucks just sounds like a money grab,
like the promoters are just trying to get as much
money as they can.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Oh, they've added a lot of shows and cities to
this tour already it's selling out, so they're getting the
money and it'll probably be great. They'll probably sound great.
It'll probably be great.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
But they like they always had one of the best
light shows. I mean, the musicianship is no question, one
of the best out there, but their light show unreal,
and just the whole show in general, the stage and
that is really really cool.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
They're gonna have a keyboard player on with him.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
Yep, nobody's been named, no, but there's some put put
some kind of a Derek Cherinian. He fit right in,
like one of those master keyboard players. You could play anything.
That would make perfect sense because you don't need a singer.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
You don't really need the master keyboard player. I mean, yeah,
he would fit and he'd be great. But you know,
there's no real you know, you don't need Rick Wakeman
or somebody out there like that Greg you free up,
you know, just somebody that can play the keyboards, because
those keyboard parts are not not all that. The great

(59:50):
thing about about Getty was he was playing keyboards, singing
and doing the bass parts on it with his feet.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Yeah, you know. And the only other band I've seen
pull that off was a Zebra, where the bass player
is also playing the keyboards. Sometimes sometimes he's not playing
the bass at all. He said. For his right hand
he's playing the bass on the keyboards and the left
hand is playing one up on the keyboard, so he's

(01:00:18):
playing two instruments with his hands. It's pretty impressive. But
I think with an extra keyboard player gives getting more
freedom just to be focused on singing and playing the
bass and you know, not all Rush songs have keyboards in.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Them, right, So that he said he and Alex said
that they were getting the keyboard players they could focus
on dance moves.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Yeah, that was kind of funny, but that's one of
those things like I get the tick pick app and
maybe like day of show and where some guy can't
maybe some of these because I bet you a lot
of these ticket agencies have got these tickets and when
they realize they can't sell them for that much and
they want to unload them at the last six hours
before showtime. That's when you log on and say, oh

(01:01:04):
and get a seat dirt cheap, Well not dirt cheap,
but it's reasonable. Sure you have four hundred, give me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
A break, four hundred. I just that's just too much
to see pretty much anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
I would get it. If it was some kind of
a Rush fan who never got to see Rush live,
then that's probably maybe they're aiming towards that. But Rush
fans are they'll go see them anywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
They rush to him so much for so long. I
don't know anybody that wanted to see him that didn't
get a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
To unless it's some youngster who is a brand new
Rush fan, like some nineteen year old and never got
to see him, that's the only.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Sure. So you're gonna harp off some nineteen year old
for four hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Well, parents are probably paying for it because my dad's
probably dad is probably a fan. He's gonna bring his kid.
You got that, you got that whole thing going on. Said, well,
good for them, you know, my music's a good thing.
I think they're overcharging.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
But I don't know how much my mom paid for
my fiftieth birthday present of going to see Paul McCartney.
But that was another one. I was on the floor,
was at the Phillies Stadium. But I'm sure i'd take
it was three or four hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Yeah, he's a beatle. So would I pay four hundred
to see Paul McCartney? Probably if I knew that was
the only chance i'd really have. Yeah, I think I would.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
I mean we're old now, we have a little bit
of money.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
I wouldn't pay it to go see Ringo.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
No, but I would go now four hundred. No, But
when I go see Ringo's all star band. Sure, there's
a lot of great guys in that band. Yeah, absolutely,
But I don't think he charges that much, though I've
never seen it. I've seen it around.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
He plays in the shed's pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
If it's reasonably price, you know you got the guy
for a minute. Work there usually, and Steve Lucather is there,
and they usually have other guys there. I think Greg Bisonette, yeah,
and some other guys from other bands. They'll they'll play
their hits, so it's weird.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
I think the horn player from Toto is in there.
I can't remember his name, but.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Yeah, I think that's I think it's the same guy.
Is it Rivera or Mark Rivera or something like that.
He also played in Foreigner when we saw them, he
played keyboards and sacks, so it's probably the same guy. Okay,
so I think we're done. We've been going at this
about an hour now. And oh that's all I gotta

(01:03:42):
say about that. Ace freely rules.

Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
He does.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
Man, he was my first guitar hero, that's for sure,
no question.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
He'll be missed. It's a bummer, but yeah, all our
heroes are passing away. I was surprised to hear that
even the bass player from Limp Biscuit died. I'm like,
what did he He was only fifty one, What Did
He Die hasn't been released. It seems like every every
week at some some celebrity that we grew up watching
on TV or listening to their tunes. Getting old sucks

(01:04:16):
so up, Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Oh we're gonna
say the same We're gonna say the same thing. Okay,
the next episode, we have a special guest coming up,
and she has a bone to pick with me. It's
something I said on a previous episode. She wants to
say something to me, and we're gonna discuss it on

(01:04:38):
the show, and we're just we're gonna try this. I
think I think we'll be able to have three people
on at the same time. We've never done it before.
This way, we're gonna try it. And we're also gonna
do a bonus rapid fire. We're gonna fire off five
questions each, so that's fifteen questions. It's gonna be an

(01:04:58):
all rapid fire episod, So either next week or the
week after that, so be looking for that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
People and bone picking and bone bone picking. She she
made a comment to me about old guys and I
brought it up on the show and we were like, what,
So she's coming she's coming on to defend herself and
I don't want to be you. I'll tell you that

(01:05:25):
because I come this girl for thirty one years and
I don't want to. I'm not arguing with her.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Okay, Well I lived three thousand miles away, so bring
it on, Annie. I'll see you all right. So people,
I will see you either in a week or a
couple of weeks, and thank you for listening, and chow later.
Bone to pick with me, huh.

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