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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What is the Bible?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What is it worth?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Basic constructions before leaving Earth. Life is full of struggles
and it is hard, but we are made in the
image of God. Lord, I have to appraise you to
the moon and back. I don't see anything wrong with that.
It's mean you health, It's mean you kept, it's mean
you move, it's me you group, it's mean you touch.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I love you so much. Oh my Lord, I have
to say thank you. Open your eyes. What did you see?
Have you inventor with your life lately? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, I have something else to say. Welcome to Hbes
and d double Jade. Oh lordy lordy to God goes
the glory. God goes the glory, the glory, glory.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All right. From the jhbsndw J podcast. I am Jerry
joyceh your host. Our mission to provide the knowledge that
will train sisters and brothers in Christ, to spread God's
love and to create disciples. Our vision to share all
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resources that would aid in the knowledge necessary for the
building of God's kingdom. The adversary does not know what
to do with those who possess integrity. We are not
human beings on a spiritual journey or the contrary we
are spiritual beings on a human journey. With that being said,
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we will open this holy by the study session up
with prayer. So please join in, Oh Holy eternal Father, Son,
Holy Spirit. It is once again that we coming to you,
as humble as we know how, asking you for your favor,
guidance and mercy. Granted strength, wisdom, and the ability to
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act righteously in your sight. Bless us with your guidance
and help us to live a life that is pleasing
to you. Thank you for your continued graces and mercies.
We pray these things in the precious name of Jesus
Christ a man. All right. Our scripture of the week
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is Romans, Chapter twelve, Verse ten. King James version, be
kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love, in the
honor preferring one another. All right. Right. Here Paul is
given a list of short commands to those who are
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in Christ. All right. He is describing what it means
to live as a self sacrificing Christian. And in the
previous verse he wrote that I will love for each
other must be sincere or genuine. Now he writes of
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love as a kind of devotion to a sibling, we
must love each other with a brotherly affection. The Greek
word used here inspired the name of a city in
the United States, Philadelphia, self described as the city of
brotherly love. Those in Christ are truly brothers and sisters.
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God adopts us as his children, welcoming us into his family.
That family includes everyone who knows God as father. Brothers
and sisters, of course, don't always get along in most families. However,
they share a loyalty and sense of belonging that surpasses
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most normal friendships. Paul's second command in this verse urges
us to compete. In a sense, we're told to outdo
one another in showing honor to each other. If each
of us acted on this, every person in anybody of
Christ would always feel deeply honored by the others and
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would never be satisfied that we are not honoring one
another enough. We would be motivated to continue, asking how
can I show more honor than he or she show
to me. Our topic today is God reaffirms his promise.
Part one discussion an unexpected encounter between Abraham and the Lord,
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begins with this passage. It is very different from God's
appearance to Abraham in the previous chapter. This time, Abraham
may not be aware at first that one of the
three men standing near his tent is the Lord in
human form. When the Lord takes human form to interact
with people on earth, Bible scholars called it a theophany.
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Given the second revelation about the birth of Isaac and
about the birth of Isaic, the Lord will give. This
appearance cannot have come long after the one in Genesis
chapter seventeen. Let me say that again, Given the second
revelation about the birth of Isaac, the Lord will give
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this appearance. But I messed it up. Given the second
revelation about the birth of Isaac the Lord would give.
Now this appearance cannot have come long after the one
in Genis chapter seventeen. All right, Now, Abraham is living
near Hebron, at least he was. I think his name
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was Abram. At that time he was living near Hebron
by the oaks of Mamrae, the area of first mentioned
in Genesis thirteen or chapter thirteen. All right, and the
heat of the day, the middle of the afternoon would
have been a time of rest for most people living
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in this desert region. All right, Now we fast forward
back to where this passage is around the afternoon in
that region, that's the buck, the hottest part of the day,
so people take a break in that area normally to
let some of the heat cool down some all right, Now,
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Abraham was sitting at the door of his tent, likely
waiting for the sun to grow less intense before continuing
his day. Abraham, sitting at the entrance to his tent
in the heat of the day, looks up and suddenly
noticed three men standing nearby. He seemed startled to see them.
Giving who these three men are, It's possible they appeared
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out of thin air or okay, or more simply they
were simply not noticed until they've gotten fairly closed. Okay.
In any case, Abraham had not noticed them before, and
if they did appear out of thin air, so what
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who they are would explain why that happened? Right now,
this passage indicates that these three men are God in
a temporary human form, as well as two angels, according
to Genesis chapter eighteen, verse one. Now, this kind of
physical appearance of God is referred to as a theophany. Now,
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it's not clear whether Abraham immediately understood one of these
men to be the Lord, or simply saw them as strangers. However,
he heard toward them and by low they signed of
great respect, especially coming from a wealthy and important man
like Abraham. Whomever he thought these men to be, Abraham
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saw it as his responsibility to greet them warmly and
offer them hospitality. He earnestly asked them not to pass by,
and he practically begs the leader of the group to
stop and spend time with him. According to earlier verses,
these three men are actually God in a physical form,
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and a pair of angel a pair of angels, and
it remains unclear that still if Abraham understands who they are,
and if he even understands that the leader of these
three is the Lord, now his language would certainly be
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appropriate for addressing God, because he calls him Lord asking
him to stop. If Abraham has found favor in his eyes. However,
Abraham's respectful language may also represent the appropriate and gracious
standard for welcoming strangers in his part of the ancient world.
So it wasn't out of the norm to greet people
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that way all right now, the culture placed an enormous
value on social grace is including respect. They see what's
so different from the world we live in, you know. Okay,
Now let me stay on point. Now, this style of
modern speech would have been the norm when dealing with strangers.
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As I would just said, all right, Abraham urges them
to rest under the shade of the tree, to have
some water and have their feet wash. Now, foot washing
was not only a sign of politeness and respect, but
also of hospitality, depending on who did the actual foot washing,
usually its serving, and it could also carry a sense
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of submission. Now, Abraham's eager hospitality may have been representative
of the common attitude towards strangers in his culture, but
he was also showing appropriate hospitality to the Lord who
had given him the covenant promises and commands of the
previous chapter. Abraham now includes the off of a mussel
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of bread before they pass on. As the following verses
will revealed, Abraham is vastly understating the meal he plans
to provide. Abraham, a wealthy and powerful man with many servants,
refers to himself as the servant of these men. Indeed,
he asks as if he were a servant eager to
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please his master. This might have been Abraham's way of
expressing his culture's typical approach to hospitality, or his extravagant
response might have been because he knew immediately whom he
was speaking. Finally, the strangers agree to wait while Abraham
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provides for their refreshment. Next, he runs back to the
tent and tells server to quickly make cakes, meaning loads
of bread for the three visitors. However, he tells her
to use with three seeds of fire one flower. In
modern measurements, this would be approximately twenty one courts or leaders.
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So that would make it like one sea of fine flower,
about around seven quarts a peace. So, and that adds
up to three of those adds up to twenty one.
Three times seven is twenty one. Okay, all right, now,
that would make an extravagant amount of bread for just
these three men. But the cakes and or lows are
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just a beginning. Abraham is engineering a royal feast. Then
the wealthy and power for Abraham hurries to his cattle
and grabs a tender calf to give to a young
male servant too, we could prepare for the meal. Abraham
is both eager to serve the Lord and the eager
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for them not to leave. Abraham behaves as the lord's servant,
exhibiting both the warm hospitality of a good host and
an attitude of submission. His passion is revealed in the
terms he used in this passage. Abraham went quickly. According
to Genesis, chapter eighteen, verse six, he ran, and the
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young man prepared the meat quickly. Now Abraham presents the
food along with some curage and milk, likely a kind
of yoga. Acts of a generous hospitality along with the
contents of the meal would have been standard among the
beduing people of that time. It would have also have
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been normal for the host to stand back and allow
his guests to eat in peace without him. For this reason,
some scholars suggest that Abraham may not have known yet
that this stranger was actually the Lord. According to this view,
Abraham was merely exhibiting the qualities of generosity and a
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kind of you know, the qualities of being a kind
hearted host. Alright now. At the same time, Abraham's hospitality
here is extravagant, and in either case, Abraham will clearly
come to understand who his guest is. In the following verses.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Alright, do you have the complexion for the protection? It
is now time for our life reflection.
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Alright. In Genesis chapter eighteen, verses two through five, Abraham
was eager to show hospitality to these three visitors, else
was locked in chapter nineteen, verse two. In Abraham's day,
people's reputations were largely connected to their hospitality, the sharing
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of home and food. Even strangers were to be treated
as highly honored guests. Meeting another's need for food or
shelter was and still is, one of the most immediate
and practical ways to obey God. It is also a
time honored relationship builder. According to Hebrews chapter thirteen, verse two,
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it suggests that we, like Abraham, might actually entertain angels.
Now this thought should be on our minds the next
time we have the opportunity to meet a stranger's need.
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what time is it, mate? It's now time to answer
comments from HBS and dwj's website. A'm alright, we'll start
with Jake Devins. Jake Devin says, Abraham out of the blue,
gets some surprise guests. Turns out it's God and two angels.
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He goes all out whipping up a feast for them. Meanwhile,
several eaves drops from the tent and gets the shocker
she's gonna have a baby, and God, cool as a cucumber,
casually reveals his plan to check out Sidom and Gomorrow
Crazy day in the neighborhood. Alright, okay, hello Jake, we
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know you're not from State Farm. Uh. Thank you for
taking the time to stop buying comment on this episode
and blessings my friend. Alright, let's move it on to Hannah.
Hannah says, how there stars everywhere? She got stars all
over the place. But anyways, let me read on. This
post on God reaffirming his promise to Abraham is truly
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thought provoking, the depiction of Abraham's generalist hospitality and the
unfolding revelation about Sarah having a son adds depth to
this narrative. I'm curious to know in your interpretation, how
do you think Sarah's laugh to reflect her emotion and
faith at that moment. It's fascinating how these ancient stories
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still resonate with us today. Keep up the great content.
Got hands clapping and stars all over the place. All right, hello, Hannah,
thank you, thank you so much. You're very entertaining. Thank
you for your sharing your thoughts on this HBS and
DWJ platform. And it seemed, in my unworthy opinion, okay,
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that Sarah laughed showing how she lost confidence in God.
You know, she was pretty old, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
you think we are human too, and we think we
probably about ready to push up the daisies, you know
what I mean. So she felt like she wasn't gonna
make it. So she may have, you know, lost some
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confidence right there, thinking that she was gonna be on
the ground. But in a ways, what Sarah did understand
is that she had been burying her entire life, unable
to conceive a child with Abraham. Okay, now, at the
age of ninety or so, she had passed menopause. We
we passed menopause, all right. All of the evidence of
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Sarah's life told her that having a baby was impossible,
so her initial response to the idea was the same
as Abraham's had been. Sarah laughed in unbelief. Now that
response seemed entirely understandable to us, doesn't it. Okay? Thank
you for stopping by and blessing is my friend? All right,
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let's move it along to Irene. Irene says, this passage
reminds me of times when I have encountered unexpected kindness
from strangers. It's a beautiful illustration of how God can
work through anyone to show us his love and grace.
Did Abraham recognize the Lord immediately? What does this tell
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us about God's interaction with humanity? Huh? Is it always
a gradual unveiling or are there moments of sudden clarity? Well, hello, Irene,
thank you for the comment and the questions, and thank
you kindly for stopping by HBSN, DWJ. Your comments are
greatly appreciated. Your questions are too, So let's see if
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we can get to the answering some of them. Questions
Abraham seems to recognize the men as important somehow, as
he treats them as on the guests. But it's not
clear he considers any of them as God himself. So
that's not you know, it's not cut clearity. You know,
it's not really clear. But in ways, when the two
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angels have left for soldom, Abraham seems to have identified
the third one as the Lord h the you know,
the third person. So Sodom and Gomorrah notoriously simple cities
in the in the Genesis, the biblical book of Genesis,
destroyed by suffering fire because God's anger was provoked by
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man sin. Now God does what he wants when he wants,
because he is the almighty Alpha ando maga beginning in
the end, the first and the last, self existing God.
All right, now, please stop by and come in on
more episodes and add to our interactive community and blessings,
my friend. All right, let's move on to Persindu Demokka.
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Persindu Democra says I found your exploration of God's promise
and Abraham's intercession for Sodom quite intriguing the depth of
Abraham's plea for mercy and God's response highlights the intricacies
of divine interaction. Have you encounter similar instances in other
religious texts where human intervention or prayer impacts divine decisions? Huh. Personally,
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I've reflected on moments where prayers seem to after circumstances,
leading me to contemplate the interplay between divine will and
human supplication. Moreover, the moral implications of Abraham's negotiation with
God raised compelling questions about the righteousness and about righteousness
and mercy. So how do you perceive the balance between
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justice and comparison in such scenarios? Huh. It's a topic
that prompts introspection about the nature of divine justice and
the role of human advocacy within it. Your post delves
into any central aspect of faith and morality, sparkling sparking
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contemplation on the complexities of divine interactions in our lives.
Thank you for sharing these thought provoking insights. All right, Hello,
and welcome back to the HBS and DWJ platform Percindu Demonica.
All right, let's see here. One example of human interaction
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or prayer impacting divine decision is when Moses begged God
to send someone else to confront the faedroh in Exodus
chapter four, verses one through fourteen. All right, Now, another
is when Lazarus mourners didn't believe they would ever see
Lazarus again in this life, found in John chapter eleven,
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verses seventeen through thirty seven. Now, that doesn't mean God
never listened to us. Though Abraham pleaded with him to
Spaasodom and Gomorra if there were any righteous citizens, according
to Genesis chapter eighteen, verses sixteen through thirty three, and
God said he would. But in the end events played
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out as God said they would, because despite Abraham's pleased
for mercies, there was no one in Sodomogomorro who wanted it.
The balance between justice and compassion in such scenarios teaches
us to have faith in God. Now I can say
no one besides a Lot. A Lot was the only one.
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But he was able to get out because God, God
made sure he got off. All right, now, thank you
for stepping by, and blessings my friend. All right, we're
gonna move it along to Bob Lynch. Bob Lynch says,
this is a very well written and informative summary of
Genesis chapter eighteen. It is clear, concise, and engaging and
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it accurately captures the main points of the text. I
particularly appreciate how you have woven in your own insights
and as well as how you have made the content
relevant to a modern audience. Thanks, good job, Keep up
the good work, Bob. All right, Hello, Bob, thank you
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Of course, I'm not trying to push it on anybody,
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thanks again for stopping by and commenting on this HBS
and DWJ platform, and blessings my friend. All right, With
that being said, for now, that is what God reaffirms
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his promise. Part one discussion is all about. All right, now,
we would go ahead and close out with prayer. Lord,
we thank you for the gift of hospitality and the
joy of welcoming others into our life. Help us to
offer warmth, kindness, and genuine character. All who are in
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our presence grant us the grace to be attentive to
their needs and to create an environment where they feel
value and at ease. May our interactions reflect your love
and compassion. Amen. All right, thank you all for tuning in,
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