02-07-25 HS/SS Guess Who's Coming to Dinner - The Historical Figure Edition

You might have missed one, as the archivist has been down with the flu. 

The Guess Who's Coming to Dinner -- the historical figure listicle episode, is here! 

Join the Lovely Aggie (and that one guy) as they discuss historical figures they'd have dinner with. 

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Speaker 2 (03:29):
Are you doing this evening?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I actually say that again, because you were typing and
I forgot I muted you so it didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Come through, which part the whole thing?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, all I got was how are you?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
We missed your entire intro? My bad?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, welcome everyone to another episode of He Said, She said.
I am one of your co hosts for the Evening Aggie,
and with me as always is the awesome rowdy Rick.
How are you doing this evening?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Rick?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
How are you? I'm over here pushing button and forgetting
what I'm doing. Other than that, I'm fine. It's it's
it's been a hectic week. I spent all week in
pretending I'm a plumber. I finally got everything fixed, and
then I wound up having to call out and have
somebody during the tank. Finally, after way too long, because
I did I mention I was a city kid before

(04:19):
I moved out here.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, what were you plumbing.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
My septic?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh that's right, that's right, you're still dealing with that?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, no, not anymore. We finally we finally got it
all fixed on Monday, six hundred dollars later.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Actually that's pretty cheap. A friend of mine just paid
five grand.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, but that's only because I did all the hard
part first and actually had friends come out and helped
me redo like this leech field and everything else, and
so all they really had to do was drain the pump,
and luckily and luckily I got or drained the tank
and luckily I got lucky and we didn't damage the
pump at all. So because yeah, city Kid kept trying
to explain to the future or the now ex wife,

(05:04):
you know, we're supposed to be doing this like every
three to five years. No, it's fine because we don't
ever put any toilet paper down it. Yeah, anyway, anyway,
oh yeah, fun times. But yeah, I got it all fixed,
got it all fixed. But yeah, so that's been fun.
And then of course the news cycle never stops anymore.
Did I mention that some days I actually kind of

(05:25):
missed nine o'clock lids and one o'clock tucked in with
tapioca guy because I kind of do something, but just
because I can't ever stop working.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Now, it has been a very busy week. I'm like,
I'm like one hundred days, it's more like one hundred hours.
It's only busy.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Two weeks were like on day nineteen and it's like
Christmas Day, nineteen twenty twenty five, because every time you
turn it out, he's just doing something that's either making
the liberals go nuts or doing something awesome through executive order.
And now I'm just like trying to browbeat the hell
out of Congress and THEA and be like, hey, all
these executive orders, y'all really need to just start doing
like some single item bills and get a lot of
this shit codified so that we so it can't be

(06:13):
changed so easily later. But yeah, I'm not a big
enough account to get their attention yet, but I'm trying.
I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Hey, squeaky Wheel, et cetera, et cetera. So we should
all just jump in and start doing that. Actually I
have been doing it with believe it or not. I
got a call from Senator Cornyan last night that was exciting. Yeah,
he was hosting a telephone town hall and asked if

(06:41):
I wanted to join it. Yeah, clicked yes, you know,
and I was hearing the shpiel and all that stuff.
And of course this is Corny, who happens to be
the rhino here in Texas, the two senators that we have.
He's the one that gets on my nerves the most.
But he you know, he said, you know, there were

(07:04):
some rules. You know, if you want to ask a question,
press wine, and then you know they would que you
and and and and all that stuff and everything. And
sure enough, question after question is like, what are you
going to do about you know, Trump becoming such a
dictator and this and that and the other thing. And
I'm going, I know that these town halls are not

(07:29):
usually for everybody. They usually just in the constituents or
people who happened to be Republicans registered Republicans, right, And
I'm going, Wow, they're all from Houston. I can tell.
It was pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, so and and he

(07:54):
kept saying, Okay, that's not a thing, you know, And
and I actually had to give a credit because he
was actually shooting down this whole dictator thing for one,
and for another, he did express that there were some
things even though there were you know, executive orders, there
were other things that they were, you know, that we

(08:14):
were finding out through the dose that have been a
source of complaint, a source of concern, and now that
it's coming to light, you know, this is something that
we should be investigating. And as soon as he mentioned
Elon Musk. As soon as he mentioned it, every other

(08:37):
question was about Elon. How does he have this much power?
Why he is not elected? Blah blah blah blah. And
he actually told the lady I said, well, we didn't
elect anybody in the irs either. I pretty much shut
her up after that. But I mean, you know, so
I have to give him some credit. I mean, he

(08:57):
was still the rhino that we know and love, but
well not really love, but at least he was actually
trying to educate the constituency as to Elon Musk's role
and why it doesn't matter if he wasn't elected. What
he's doing is actually his the job that people wanted

(09:21):
him to do. That's why Trump got elected because of this. So,
you know, it was pretty funny. I was like, after
about thirty minutes, I said, yeah, okay, I'm done. Click.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So, yeah, question he wants to know if you asked him,
why is barbecue in the pombination against Godden Man, I've.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Never actually seen Hornan's well, yeah, okay, I remember seeing it. Yeah,
it wasn't abomination. He he didn't go to a good
barbecue place. Okay, it's he's he's hard to explain. He
is very difficult to explain. I mean, he it's like

(10:06):
someone who pretends to be a Texan but really isn't.
As opposed to somebody who got here as soon as
they could, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
So yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, we have we
have those folks here too. I think kind of turned
into one, even though I think he's from it.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Although I have to.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Give him some credit. He's actually voting like in Oklahoma
and for the last few confirmation here he's has been
involved in, so I have to give him that. So wow, Okay, yeah,
he actually voted for He actually actually voted for not Tulsi,
the other one, Pam Bondy, when we didn't expect him
to vote for her, and he actually voted to get

(10:47):
Kennedy out of committee. I was kind of surprised.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think a lot of them are seeing the writing
on the wall. The threat from Michelle Stranahan is very
and for her, it's not a question of whether or
not you're a Democrat or Republican. It's a question of
if you're not going to be voting for these picks,

(11:12):
you will get primary end of discussion. I don't care
what you're I don't care if you're a Republican or Democrat,
and she's going to put all of her money towards that,
and it's a valid threat. She has nothing to lose,
and a lot of people are actually, you know, at
first they were like shaking it off, and she was like,
I mean it, I'm a billionaire. I don't care. I

(11:34):
got money to burn. She literally has fucking money. So
for her, this is a worthwhile crusade. And people are
noticing and people are paying attention.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I just like, like I said, there's just been
so much winning and the left being completely disorganized. I
think one of my favorite things today was watching Maxine Waters,
who I swear to god, I'm having a Mandela affecting
over because I could source you died a couple of
years ago.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
That that was her twin.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
She's, well, I could have swore she did do. Though
I'm like, wait a minute, I'm confused. But anyway, because
I'm like, wait a minute, I thought she died. Now
she's in the news again. But yeah, it was funny
because I'm sure you I'm sure you probably saw the
video of the security guard who's just standing there like,
give me the fuck alone.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I thought it was hilarious because here's a group of people.
We're doing nothing but throwing a tank Trump in front
of cameras, trying to be little and intimidate an employee.
And then they went after his employment. You know, who
do you work for? Who do you work you're you

(12:42):
do work for the US, you know, blah blah blah
and all that stuff. And I'm like, these are the
same people that were okay with eighty thousand I R.
S agents having all of your data. They were very
okay with doxing that data of the US president.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
It gets even better because the same people that are
screaming and yelling that two those critters who are actually
alone from Treasury were going through read only data, which
means technically they should have They were allowed to have
access to the data in the first place because they
actually worked for the Secretary of Treasure. That was a problem.
But finding out that China had a backdoor into our
treasury computers, yeah, that wasn't a problem.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
And who was the guy that was screaming, I forget
his name, I think it starts with a C. He
was saying that, you know, he's a representative. You know,
I work in Congress. Well, you know what, get your
ass back to the office, file a memo, make an
appointment to come see these people. They'll tell you what

(13:46):
time to come, and then you walk in. That's the problem.
They all could have made appointments, because that's how it's done.
You actually request an appointment with whatever. You just don't
show up. People are busy. People have their own schedules,
just like you do. Working in Congress. You make an appointment,
you request them to come to your office, or you

(14:09):
go to their office. The appointment is made and you
keep it or they keep it if they'd come to
your office. That's how it's done. That's how it's always
been done. So for them not to do it this way,
it just means that they're afraid that, hey, yeah, it
would be honored, the request would be honored, and they
would have nothing to bitch about. They didn't want to

(14:32):
go into the Department of Education. They wanted the grand standing.
That's it. Because had they gone into the Department of Education,
then what.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, I love the part where there well you have
to release letters into the desk. He's like, yeah, no,
I don't. But here here's my take on this, because
for this to have happened, to have happened the way
it happened. This is how this went down. Before all
the cameras were there, before the crowd was there, somebody
found out that Doge was in the Doe, So somebody
went over and tried to get in, and dude said no.
So then they went back and started stirring everybody up.

(15:04):
I was like, let's get everybody to go over there
and show them that they're blocking congressional access to there's
protocol for all this shit, and you basically just through it.
You unless you're going to subpoena them and call them
to your house to go into their house, you have
to say, hey, we would like to have this discussion
with you. What days and times are you available for
us to send somebody over, Not just march over and

(15:27):
be like we're Congress and we're allowed in right now.
No no, no, no. But all of that aside, this
is just the Democrats not having any idea what to do.
I mean, when the Republicans went through this with Obama,
they didn't look great, but they damn sure didn't look

(15:47):
this feckless. They just went back. They just went back
to the camp cameras, and I remember Baiter saying, hey,
look dude, we went in, we told him we wanted
to work with him, and he told his election that
had consequences. So we're just gonna see what happens. And
that was really the most you heard about it, except
for from the Tea Party crew who were pissed. The
Congress was just like, yeah, we'll figure it out. These
people are nuts, And the reason that they're nuts is

(16:09):
because they have figured out that their perpetual rage machine,
their perpetual engagement machine, all the things that all that
one machine has been funding all of their angst and
all of their spin ups, and even most of their campaigns.
Because the part that disturb me the most about finding
out what we found out about USAID is finding out

(16:29):
that they have ten thousand employees, all of which have
salaries ranging from three hundred to five hundred thousand dollars
a year. And you know that the ninety seven percent
of those people were donating right back into Democratic candidates
and Democratic causes. So they're taking our tax dollars to

(16:51):
build a perpetual motion machine to fund the Democratic Caucus.
This is why these people are so pissed, because They've
just they realized that, whether anybody realized it at first
or not, they have found their entire fundraising mechanism and
they've just pulled the plug on it. Now. Of course
there's a robe dudes trying to stop them, but we
know eventually that's not going to work out anyway, because

(17:13):
they're not getting rid of it completely. They're leaving like
two hundred and ninety some odd people in place, which
as far as I'm concerned, is still too many. But
since it's been codified by Congress, it is legally required
to exist. It is not legally required to exist in
the scale that it exists right now. Jeff brought up
an interesting point though, yesterday when Jen and I were
on and I'm wondering if this may not have something

(17:34):
to do with why they started with USAID, because Kennedy
started USAID, but nobody knows exactly when it became a
CIA front. So there is a good chance that the
organization that Kennedy started with the best of intentions might
have been what got him killed.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
There's now another conspiracy theory, and I'm just gonna sit
back and wait for it to come true. Let's face it,
they've all been coming through.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
And it's a valid point. And it also because you
know they're working on the declassifying all this stuff, so
you Trump already knows. So why did he push them
there first? Good question. I think this is a play
to get as much done as they can get done,
and then the news is going to come out about
us AID and then all the country is going to

(18:26):
call for the bitch to have a stake put through
its heart. That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well here's hoping. I am really really tired of getting
the whole don't you want to save you know, people
in Africa personally speaking? I think that's their problem. I
am done. How many years have they been spending on
our war on property and nothing has gotten done? Imagine

(18:52):
that on an international level.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, that's just it. The money that we're supposedly spending
on the war on poverty is most is mostly being
back to the USA. I d and been in all
over the world. But that's yet another point. Because we're
talking about all these things that you know, we supposedly
do to make the world a better place. When when
is when is Africa gonna come help us? When does

(19:16):
that happen? When when do all these countries go, oh,
America's in trouble. We should air drop them food. We
should do this, we should do that. You know what,
nobody's gonna do that. Nobody's gonna come save us. And
the one thing that this has shown me, because again,
think about an iceberg. There's the spot you see on
the top that's USA I D and then there's this
whole giant thing that you see that you don't see

(19:38):
under the waterline. And that's why the Democrats are pissed
because if they've been doing this with USA I D
imagine what they've been doing with the DoD budget, Imagine
what they've been doing with the military budget, all of it.
And he Trump's already said I'm turning him loose on everything,
whether you guys like it or not. And I'm sorry
if this continues, I'm gonna need to go see a nurse.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well on that note.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Way to get into our topic, because.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
You're like this, No, our topic has nothing to do
with ursus unless Clara barton North Florence Night and Gale
is one of your your your your peeps. But tonight
we were going to talk about I wanted to do
this like once a month, you know, guess who's coming
to dinner? Historical edition, that kind of thing, because I

(20:33):
think it would be kind of cool. I'm always thinking about,
you know, be so cool to have somebody, you know,
to sit down, break bread and just learn about their
life experience or you know what led them to that
point or you know what you know fill in the blank.
I've always I've always enjoyed that. I've actually gotten to

(20:55):
do that three times in my life with people who
I admired. None are in my family, thank god, but
you know people that I actually admired or learned from
or something. And one of them was the crazy anthropology professor,

(21:19):
but you know that were mine. Yeah, to relive this
back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, doctor Kathy that while
I lost her ever loving mind over Trump, and I
mean she completely snapped. She was professor emeritus at this

(21:39):
point over in North Carolina, I think it was, and
she had been my professor at Texas Ina and I
loved her. She I cannot stress enough. How could a
professor she was? She really was an excellent teacher. She

(22:00):
enjoyed her work, and she was very thorough in her methodology.
But she stepped you know, but when I had dinner
with her. It was a very enjoyable experience. I had
been out of school for about five years, and I
found out that she was going to be giving a
lecture up in what is now University of North Texas,

(22:27):
and so I, you know, at the time, I was
living in Dallas. So I borrowed my roommate's car because
I didn't have a car at the time, and drove
up to Denton to hear her speech. And she recognized
me in the audience. She was like, I see one
of my former students here, and it was really cool

(22:49):
and everything. And we went out to dinner and I
got to ask her a lot of questions that as
a student I never had the opportunity to do. So
for me, you know, looking back, it's kind of an
historical type of thing, situation, you know, or a you know,
something that really made an impact in my life in

(23:12):
a positive way. And I think historical figures I would,
I mean, there are so many I had to actually
make lists of. No, this is not really historical figures.
She's more of an entertainer, or this is more of
a musician, or this is more of an artist.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I had to like, so historical figures. You know, I
my list grew shorter and shorter and shorter, thankfully. But
that's our topic for tonight is the you know what
historical figures you would have dinner with?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
So you're saying so you're saying your list was in
the pool because it just kept drinking.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
It was in the full. But anyway, so I guess
you can go first and you know, pick whyman tell
us why?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Ah Well, actually, going off of some of the rules,
you just indicated that to shorten my list a little bit,
because actually a few, but I still have quite a few, honestly,
believe it or not. One of the people that I
would love to sit down and have dinner with, and
preferably not the last supper kind would be Christ himself.
That that's my that's my where. I'm not doing them

(24:32):
in any specific order because I just go but yeah,
that if I could, I would love to sit down
and talk to that man for hopefully longer than just
one dinner, just you know.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because I would have to say that he is an
historical figure. I mean, he's not just a religious figure.
He's an historical figure.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He's been proven to have extorical historically existed because if
how accurate the historic coil information is in the Bible
at that time. So he's a historical figure too. So
that's why I laugh at everybody. He's not even real
love like, dude, even the Muslims admit that he's a thing.
They just don't think he's who he said he was.
So you can sit down.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, that would be. That'd be such a great dinner,
literally breaking bread m. You wouldn't have to worry about
the wine either, I mean at least.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I mean you want to talk about never ending redstick.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, and you don't have to order wine.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's awesome, and like, oh, you only have water. I
can fix that. Yeah, let me fix that.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I swear Calvin and I share a Brain's amazing. We
both jump to the wine thing.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay, you know it's kind of your thing, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Kind of sort of.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You have a barbabe account.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, but Jesus would give me side after that.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, necessarily beside it. I'd be like, you know, Aggie, it
says a little wine is good for the stomach's sake,
not all the other stuff you drink, but the wines.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Everything else exactly. And I would counter with Hey, the
monks make their own beer. Okay. I'm like, I'm just
here supporting supporting monks.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
And go into the monastery and flip their I told
you you could make wine. What is this?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, to be fair, they're in Germany. It's actually in Bavaria.
Most of the monks that I met actually make beer,
and there were a couple to north of Bavaria that
did the wine. So the further north you go, the
more wine you make they make, but in the south

(26:56):
it was mostly beer. It's pretty fine. But yeah, that
would be a really good I mean, I I don't
think I would shut up if I were at the
table with Jesus asking him question after question after question.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, he would definitely be like, Okay, okay, that's okay,
just like, don't make me wave my hand and make
your mouth disappear.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think my first question would be like, okay, so
tell me about Thomas and how you cured it. I
want this. I want to tea on Thomas. My mom
always gets mad at me when I bring up doubting Thomas.

(27:49):
I don't know why. I'm like, it's a it's a
good story, it's a story about faith. But she gets
she gets upset about it. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Thomas gets a bad rap though, I mean in pretty
much every iteration of faith Thomas, he gets a bad rap.
But I think it's actually a really cool redeeming story
because it means that even if you have now, even
if you have doubts, as long as you wind up
in the right place before the time runs out, you're
gonna be good, which I think is part of what
makes everybody so uncomfortable because it makes them understand that,

(28:21):
you know, if you happen to find your faith at
the very end and you still ask for repentance and it's,
you know, pretty much the only time you've ever done
so seriously, He's still going to take you. And that
makes people mad for some reason. I'm like, that doesn't
make me mad. That makes me feel good because it
reminds me that God is actually a loving, just God
and that all things can technically be forgiven. Because the

(28:44):
one thing about Scripture that I find the most interesting
is everybody starts talking about how certain sins are unforgivable.
There's really only one, and it's misquoted so often because
it's blaspheming the Holy Spirit and everybody's like, the minute
you take the Lord's name in vain, that means you
can't go to have No, that's not what that means.
That means you've spent your entire life hearing and feeling

(29:04):
the call of the spirit and turns your back to it.
That's the only unforgivable sin, because once you die, if
you haven't done that yet, you can't get there. Now.
I'm not one of these people that thinks salvation is
permanent either. It's like a garden, you have to tend it.
But I also think that there is kind of a
baseline where once you've made that confession, you get in.

(29:28):
But I think heaven's going to be a lot different
than all of us think, because I still think we
have to answer for everything that we've done. The only
difference is when we're standing there and all of our
things that we have done have been shown to us,
there's either going to be Jesus standing at the right
hand of the Father saying forgiven because he's with me,
or going to be saying, yeah, no, I don't know
this person. I don't want to be that second one.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Well, you know, I'm Catholic, so we have purgatory, and
so far, I think I have racked up about three
or four hundred years in purgatory before I can even
move forward. But hey, you know it's it's it's good work,
it's honest work. My mom always tells me every time

(30:11):
that I say something, I do something bad. If I'm
at home, she's like, well, that's another year, and she
means that that's another year added to my years in purgatory. Now,
for those of us, for those of you not familiar,
purgatory is not really measured in years. It's just a
time allotment. There are no years when you're up in

(30:34):
heaven or purgatory. But she gets mad at me. She says,
that's another year. I'm just like, great, I should just
start keeping count that I stopped after three hundred.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
To be like, it's going to be like this name
from the first Beetlejuice movie at the end when he's
when they're like taking number and he's got like three million,
three hundred thirty and ninety nine, that's gonna be you. You're
gonna get down pretty much.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, that's pretty much.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It like astronomical and Danielle, that's actually that's actually a
very common conception within christiendom I happen to not I mean,
and I could be wrong, but my personal belief is
I don't think any sin is unforgivable other than not
ever finding Christ, because it wouldn't make any sense otherwise.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
The way I understand it, when you die, if following
a suicide, you are held in judgment and you have
to basically make your case as to why you took
that step. So depending on what the judgment is past,
you can move forward or you move backward. But I'm

(31:52):
not really well versed on that one. That is, I'll
be honest. I skip class that day.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
M's got a great point for you. You get a
year off further rock you've sent out.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yes, I'm getting back into my rock painting pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I have to.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I have to postpone it because you know, with Thanksgiving
and then getting ready for Christmas and then having guests
for like three weeks in a row, there was no
there was no chance for me to paint anything, to
do anything, and then I have I have run out
of rocks, and I was still looking for a semi
local place and I can't find anything closer than Dallas.

(32:39):
So I guess I'm just going to keep ordering them
from Amazon's. That's pretty much drawback right now. But I'll
be back to it. I'll be back to it. I've
had a list already of people to send to, so
contecting them soon enough. I've been working on a very
special rock for a friend, and I got to say

(33:00):
it's coming out so cool. He's gonna squeal. I can't
even tell you what it is because he might be listening. Rude, rude,
I know, I know. I'll tell you after the show.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I don't really need to know, I'm besides, because everybody
gets all excited post like a million pictures of him anyways.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
No, actually, most people don't. I mean, some people do
post pictures, but most people will send me the picture
in the end and tell me thank you, you know
I did receive it or whatever. That's always really sweet.
But to keep, you know, to keep from going crazy,
I've been knitting, and I've been cross stitching, and I've

(33:49):
been doing embroidery, and I've been writing letters, and I've
been sending letters out to everybody that was on my Christmas.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
What is this? What is this use of the word going.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Okay, yeah, that's true. Okay, fair enough. So anyway, it
is in my turn now. As far as historical figures,
you know, it was really hard for me. But the
very first one that I thought of is somebody that
most people would not think doing so. And I want

(34:23):
to say m d kind of came close when he mentioned,
you know, he said it was a little cliche, but
he would have dinner with Lincoln Franklin and Teddy Roosevelt.
I would have dinner with Alice Roosevelt.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Well, of course he was.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
She was a firebrand, and a woman at that at
that age, at that point in time, did not have
the freedoms that Alice Roosevelt enjoyed. It is said that
our father once said that she could He could either
run a country or control Alice, but he could not

(35:05):
do both. Alice was the sort of person who reveled in,
you know, all the inner workings of not just politics,
but of culture, and she was always trying to upend everything.
She was very much a suffragette. She really believed in
women's rights, she believed in the right to speak. She

(35:29):
relieved in a lot of things that back then women
were not really encouraged to do. And one of this
might be apocryphal, I'm not sure, but one of her
famous sayings was, you know, if you have nothing, you know,
if you have nothing nice to say, come sit by me,

(35:51):
because she did want to know all of the gossips.
She really wanted to know because she understood one thing.
And this is something that's universal with women and with men,
and men won't actually acknowledge it the way women do.
But gossip tells you more about the culture and the
trends in society than anything else. And she understood that,

(36:16):
and so she used that with her father's politics. You know,
she would pay attention to what the gossips were saying.
She would ask the maids, you know, why did you hear?
You know? And all I said. She was very precocious,
she was very open, and she was very much difficult

(36:38):
to manage by her father. And I have to give
Teddy Roosevelt credit because he never tried to control her.
He understood that this was something that was part of
him and he couldn't deny her right to be the
way she was. And so I would love to sit

(36:59):
down with this woman and asked her to spill the
tea on everybody, because I know for at least two
and a half hours, that is all she would do,
and it would be amazing. It would be so awesome,
and it would be a true window into the culture
of her time. And I think that's what made her

(37:20):
writings so special. But her, you know, the way she
moved her society was so amazing. I mean, she not
only knew all of the high society people, but she
also knew everybody that worked in the White House down
to the person that was, you know, in charge of

(37:41):
cleaning the toilets. She knew everything because that was the only
way that you knew the workings of the police serving.
So she was she was an incredible woman. And honest
to God, I'm just here, I'm just here for the
tea with her. I wouldn't even I would just ask
her policeability and I would just sit back and just

(38:05):
allow her to just talk. It would be incredible, very
eye opening. I'm sure she was an inspiration and she's
still an inspiration to me. But you know, it's just,
you know, and I'm not saying that she was perfect.

(38:28):
I'm not saying that she didn't have her distractions and
she didn't have her own set of scandals or anything
like that. But from her, and it took me a
long time to learn this lesson. I learned that you
should not go through life unnoticed. You should make the
attempt to stand out, because you, as an individual, have

(38:50):
not only the right, but the responsibility to be one.
And she was one. She I got to understand my
position as an individual through her, you know, reading about
her and the scandals and the stories and the things
that she would do, and you know the fact that

(39:11):
she just did not let society get in her way
of wanting something or wanting to say something, or wanting
to do something. And that was very eye opening to me, because,
as y'all know, I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty sure. I
tend to be really quiet and inobtrusive in real life

(39:32):
and everything. But her example has made me be more
forward in social media and has made me find a
voice somewhat. And I don't no longer go through life
trying to hide anymore. And it's because of the lessons
instilled by her. So she would be a really interesting

(39:56):
dinner companion in my opinion, not to mention, you know,
at least forty five minutes would be involved in talking
about clothes. That'd be so cool.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Okay, Yeah, I have to give you that one. That
one might that one might be cool, at least for
the folks of the female persuasion anyway, Danielle mentioned Marie Curie.
That would be a cool one, I think, mm hmm

(40:27):
yeah for me. I think my next one would have
to be Thomas Jefferson, so I could find out why
the fuck he wrote that retarded letter to that point, that.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Would be your first question with it.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
What were you doing? Bro? Do you realize? Do you
realize what you have put us through with your bullshit
for the last two hundred years, because everybody knows that's
not really what you meant, and if it is, then
you're about to not be invited to dinner anymore. Yeah,

(41:01):
that would be my next one because I would love
to pick his brain about what his actual intentions were
behind that letter, because there are so many different points
of thought with that letter and that well it actually did.
He didn't mean it like this, and he didn't mean
it like that. And I happened to be of that
thought because he was and despite what everybody thinks and
what everybody's been told, he was a deeply religious person.

(41:23):
He just felt that religion should be more private. But
at the same time, I am of the mind that
I think what he was trying to explain ever to
everybody about the separation of church and state is the
exact interpretation I have of it, which is honestly one
of the things that made me give Trump's side eye
on too long ago. In my opinion, the establishment of

(41:43):
the separation of church and state was to get away
from exactly what England did, which is basically figure out
that the Catholics were making money hand over fist and
he wanted and the King of England won on his
own version.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Of that pretty much.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, because everybody forgets that before the Reformation, you had
to buy your way into heaven.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Mm.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
It was how much money you gave to the church,
and how often you gave to the church, and how
and you know how.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Oh, let's not forget the buying of indulgences.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Oh yeah, so, I mean, and that's one of the
reasons why I keep looking at all this stuff and
everybody's like, and I'll be honest, it's one of the
reasons why I've always had a big issue with the
Catholic Church. I get it. I'm not throwing stones at anybody,
I promise, But that has always been one of the
issues when when everybody's like, well, why are two Catholic? Well, first,
I wasn't raised around it. Second I've done my research

(42:32):
and I didn't. I don't like the Catholic Church very
much because they did some shady shit. So did the
Church of England, though, I mean they all have. That's
the problem is you have all these things that were
basically started with the best of intentions. I mean, you
have to remember most schools back in the day were
founded by churches. Most education was related to churches, the

(42:54):
little that there was, because they didn't really want people
to be too educated. That's one of the reasons why. Again,
because if you were of higher class and you could
afford to buy salvation, you understood the language that the
vicar or the priest was using. If not, you didn't,
and then they had to translate it to you so
they could tell you exactly what they wanted you to
think the Bible meant. That was the whole point of

(43:14):
the Reformation, was We're going to put it in your
language so that you can read it. And so but
that's I mean Thomas Jefferson with that one letter undid
so much shit because it's like, oh no, now we
can't have any reference to any religion at all within
the country. And this goes back to the reporter or
I use that term loosely, that was dragged the other

(43:36):
day for Trump violating separation of church and state for
going to the prayer breakfast. I'm like, bro, where have
you been these things?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Obama's gone, Bush has gone, Biden's gone.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I mean, well, first of all, it surprises me not
only that Clinton went, but that he didn't burst into flames.
But yeah, even he went, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I think I don't think. I think Biden skipped the one,
if I recall correctly. But most of them attend them regardless.
I mean, they just they show up because they know
it's good optics. And it's not just for the right,
but also for the left. You know, there is a

(44:20):
left religious section in the US and every politician knows this,
so it's good optics to show up. So for this
guy to say that, I was like, were you last year?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
And for the records, since we've crossed back over in
the both politics and the church. Everybody remember the crazy
lesbian bishop bitch that was going to town on Trump
and bands.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
You mean the multi millionaires that lives in a one
point six million dollars home.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, I know, and her church that's been primarily funded
by USAID.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yep. Now, I I'm I'm telling you all of those
charities that are church funded are in serious trouble right now.
And this is one of the things that I remember
my past, my priest father Stephen back home, he had
issues with Catholic charities because there was no accountability. There

(45:22):
was never you know there you know, there was no
accounting for where the money was going. It was just
a vague it's going to this place for this use.
But after that you never saw the money again. You
don't know if if that's what it was used for.
And he always had issues with that. So I'm you know,
I'm so hopeful for this douche thing.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Anyway, Hey, Steven, just just remember, don't offer, don't offer
so creat to anything to drink. He'll freak the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Anyway. All right, So is it my turn?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Okay, So I guess my next one would be none
other than Winston Churchill. He's actually my only political guy
on this list, but I just I adore him. I

(46:22):
have read his entire all of his volumes on World
War Two. I have read a lot of his books,
a lot of his letters.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I just.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
He was.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
The man for the times, and he you know, he
saw the coming threat from different sides well before anybody
else did. But more than that, the man was a
fantastic writer. And I mean there's a reason he wanted

(46:59):
to know Bell Prize for Literature for his tongues. They
were not just well written, but the way they were written,
they actually took you on a journey. And this is,
you know, this is the quality of a well written book.
You start reading and you want to be there. I

(47:20):
don't care if it's a mystery, horror, suspense, western romance, action.
It doesn't matter what the book is. If it's well written,
you want to be enmeshed in that book. You start wondering, hey,
I wonder if I could meet these people. That was
a quality that Winston Churchill had when he was writing
his account of how World War Two came about and

(47:44):
you know, the dissolution and everything. So I would love
to sit there and ask him, not just questions on
how it must have been so difficult, go for him
to lead a country that basically you know, size wise,

(48:05):
was rather small against that vastness that was you know
Germany at the time. Germany had already I incorporated itself
with different you know, Poland, Austria, you had Mussolini in
Italy being a threat as well. Spain. Spain was just

(48:27):
waking out. I don't, I don't, I don't even know.
France was just you know, drinking their pernodobic al alone
or whatever. But you know, seeing so many threats and
having the foresight to know what to do and yet
be hindered by politics at every turn, be hindered by

(48:50):
you know, how do you how do you convince people?
How do you know, how do you win them over?
That kind of thing. I would love to just ask
him how it was that a man of his caliber
became so diplomatic that most people did not see it
coming when he was you know, trying to get his way,

(49:12):
so to speak. But you know, aside that he was
incredibly witty. Uh. There are so many instances of him
just with his one liners are just incredible. So that
would be somebody that I would I would love to
sit I don't think I would stop asking questions from

(49:33):
this man until he finally just tells me to shut up.
He needs to go get some sleep. Because that's that's
how much I would love to talk to Winston Churchill.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
And it means as long as you get the whiskey flowing,
you could really talk to him.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
And the cigars. Yeah, and I believe me I would
because I do love the center of that cigar.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
But just.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I mean, there's so much. I don't think he got
around to writing everything he wanted to write. I don't
think he got around two actually saying and completing the
things he wanted to do. So I you know, there
was just a lot that he I think he wanted

(50:22):
to do that it would have taken two lifetimes.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
So I have to ask this question. Does your husband
realize he's married to the perfect woman? You let him
play video games?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, he's in the room next to me playing video games.
I can hear him cussing out somebody.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
You let him play video games, You cook, I know
how to make drinks, and you like the smell of
a good cigar. Your husband is married to the perfect woman.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
It's funny, I asked him. I actually the last I
was at seatback, Brad, and I would you know going
through all the vendors and everything, and it was this
guy that was selling a Trump cigars. You know, they
had the Trump insignia, you know, to make America Great
Again or whatever, and so I, you know, I told Brad, said,

(51:17):
you're gonna have to buy some, because Brad does smoke cigars,
and He's like, yeah, I think I need to get some,
and I said, I think I'll get some from my
husband too, So I bought. I bought a couple. I
brought them. They're still here. My husband doesn't smoke cigars,
but he loves them because they make America great Again

(51:38):
on the cigar band. So I'm like, wait a minute,
I paid good money for those just to smoke him.
I said, well, if you paid good money for that,
I think I'm just gonna have them, you know, on display,
Like oh great. So anyway, okay, who Europe next? Who

(52:04):
would you ask?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Who would I have to dinner next? Actually, there's gonna
be kind of an overlap because I would love to
sit down and actually talk to Teddy Roosevelt. So I
guess I could be talking to him while you're talking
to the kids.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Oh my god, can you imagine if all the four
of us were right at a round table having dinner.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Dude. No, no, So many people don't even understand all
the Roosevelt history. The dude was actually one of the
first police commissioners of New York City. Has always.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
He he was a true renaissance man. He really was.
And I can totally see why you would have dinner
with Teddy Russell. I can see anybody having dinner with
Teddy Roosevelt.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Which this brings up kind of a side thing. Somebody
posted all over social media the other day because I
guess Tom Selleck had like his eightieth birthday or something.
They snapped a shot of him getting take out through
McDonald's at the drive throll by himself, and there's like, oh,
look at the sad old oly man. I'm like, no,
he's on his way to a fancy restaurant. Those portions
are tiny. I don't blame him at all because he's

(53:13):
about to go have dinner with his family and some
fancy place and I guarantee youh's stopping to get what
Dellily wants first.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah. It's so funny because a lot of people are like,
he's got a family, Like this is how private Tom
Selleck is. So many people don't know that he's been
married for like forty years. Actually this is a second marriage,
and he's got a daughter. Most people don't even know
that because he keeps his private life very private.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
If you've noticed, though, those are the racient relationships in
Hollywood that usually last, the ones that they keep out
of the spotlight. And then you've got the craziness, like
what's going on with Lake Lively.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
And Ryan Reynolds.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Ryan Reynolds, I don't know why I couldn't think of
his name, but yeah, dude, I'm just like, they.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Seem happy, Yeah, but they're they're there's a lawsuit going
on or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah, so apparently they like hijack some dude's movie and
then I guess even try to get Britney Spears in
the middle of it and basically rewrote the script. And
then the movie tanked and now they're directors suing them
for fucking up the movie and they're like, it's all
your fault anyway. So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I just it was about sexual harassment. But I'm like,
I said, I'm not paying attention because I really don't care.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Well, so that's a Lively countersuit for sexual harassment because
dudes's suing them because they tanked his movie.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Oh my god, Okay, fine whatever.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Hey, you're the one who says you're like, ta, how
are you not keeping up with this?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Because I like tea when it's like good this this
isn't good tea. This is like this is like fake tea.
I don't know. It's hard to describe.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
So you're saying it's so so you're saying it's the
Lipton tea.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
What you're saying, No, it's pine bark that you got
from the from the on the back.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
That's like witchcraft medicine.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Is actually no, I do, I do make a tea
with pine needles, and so I shouldn't. I shouldn't put
it down because it's actually pretty good. Yes, agreed, Calvin
Collage good one, Steven Calvin Collage would be great. I mean,
let's face it, I don't think he would talk. So,
I mean he's pretty much the guy just let it,

(55:42):
you know, just leave the government alone and just I
don't think he would talk. He would just sit there
and say I left it alone. Are we done here?

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I am not here to answer your questions. I was
promised food.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
No, but I think Terry Roosevelt would be a really
really interesting dinner companion simply because you know, like you said,
his police work, uh, being in the military during the

(56:20):
Spanish American War, doing all of these things. I mean,
the guy, he did a lot of stuff, and I'm
surprised that he stooped down to become president honestly.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yeah, I mean I could. Yeah, I mean we kind
of we kind of had that happen with Reagan no too,
and now this latest one, everybody's like, why would you
do this to yourself again? I mean, that's that's the
part I don't with everything they put him through the

(56:58):
first time, with all the ship that he went through
when he really came in with I think, what were
the best of intentions for everything that they put him through,
For everything they tried to do to him over the
last four years, with not one but two people trying
to kill him. At some point I would have just
taken my fucking ball went home. But like, you know
what y'all deserve for this shit to thank I'm out.
I'm just I mean, and I'm somebody that tries to

(57:19):
be one of those people that stands up when people
need it. But even I have my limits. I'm like
I and now, I mean, I don't. I don't know
how he does it. Dude is up working until one
to two in the morning, and they showed it. They
showed an image today at like five Eastern time in
the morning. The Oval Office lights were back on again.
I'm like, I rarely sleep and I can't keep up
with this guy. It's crazy. But but yeah, no, I mean,

(57:43):
I don't. I really don't understand why a lot of
the people that are run for president have run for
president because it's a very thankless job. At the end
of the day, one side is always gonna hate you
no matter what, and it's just the way it's always been.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
So I mean, anyway, yeah, I think, man not.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Wait, Raptor is gonna go see the dinosaurs? Does it
mean you're not coming back? You're going to keep you
don't go?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Okay, I think, all right, so well I guess it
my turn. Yes, Okay, So for me, this one is
really interesting. This one has been somewhat of a it's
been a thing for me, even though I am absolutely

(58:44):
not somebody that would do any of this stuff. But
his life was very interesting and I think for me,
one of the people that I would actually love to
have dinner with would be Sir Ernest Shat for those
of you who are like huh. He was one of

(59:09):
the Antarctic explorers during the Golden Age of Antarctic exploration,
and he died relatively young. As a matter of fact,
he died on his way to another Antarctic quest that
he was on. But he It's really funny because most

(59:34):
of the stuff that he set out to do was
actually done by I believe his name was Scott. It's
his last name. So they were always in competition. Both
Shackleton and Scott were always in competition with each other.
But Shackleton was in a particular Arctic undertaking antar undertaking

(01:00:01):
in a ship called the Endurance, and the Endurance actually
ended up getting caught in ice and then it sank.
He and his men escaped. They camped on the sea
ice until you know that I started breaking apart, uh,

(01:00:23):
and then they launched the lifeboats to reach the first island,
which is Elephant Island, and after that South Georgia, which
is you know, near the tip of the Uh. But anyway,

(01:00:44):
the fact that this man and he managed to get
his crew safe. I mean this is quite a few
hundred miles I want to say between seven and eight
hundred miles that they had to traverse on lifeboats and
he managed to actually save all of his people and everything.

(01:01:09):
And one of the things that a lot of people
admire about him is his tenacity under dire situations. He
when they would do a prayer, it was Scott for
the science, you know, and so and so for this.

(01:01:31):
But if I'm ever stuck with no hope of ever
getting out, I'm going to pray for Shackleton. That was
the prayer that a lot of people did during the
Earth the time of exploration, where people were going all
over the world, but Antarctica at the time was the
most I mean it had a call simply because nobody

(01:01:55):
had been there. So when the Endurance went down, a
lot of the stuff, you know, they thought was lost.
But in nineteen ninety nine they managed to retrieve photograph
plates that have been on the Endurance, that have been

(01:02:18):
taken by the crew, and they were printed and they
were put on display. The photographs were put on display
at the Metropolitan I believe, and various museums. They went
on tour and I mean, you're looking at photographs that
were taken in in the nineteen nineteen twenties, I want

(01:02:40):
to say, and these men looked like they were in
I swear to god, it looked like a Gap commercial.
I'm serious. I mean, because they were all standing there
looking at each other and smiling and everything, and they're
wearing khakis and you know stuff, and it was just
I'm looking at going, this look like an ad for
the Gap. It's just so weird to see something like that.

(01:03:05):
And it was really cool because Lego actually put out
on the one hundredth anniversary of the Endurance Expedition, they
put out a set of the Endurance itself and yeah,
I got my eye on it, and it's really really cool.
It's the entire ship and it is the details in

(01:03:25):
Lego are just so great. But one of the things
that I really can't admire about the man he well,
basically he had no concept of money because he died
in serious debt, you know. But he was adamant about exploration.

(01:03:47):
And for him, it was about you get to one
point and you got to see what's at the next one.
It wasn't about getting to one point and say yay,
I did it. Let's camp put the flag, Okay, we
can go home. For him is what it was always about,
getting to the next one. And unfortunately he died very young.
He was forty seven when he died. He was actually

(01:04:10):
on his way to another He was going to traverse
sea to sea, so he was going to go from
one point in Antartica and traverse it all the way
over to the next sea. But he died on the
way from a heart attack, and so he was he

(01:04:32):
was we're going to bring his body home, but his wife,
Lady Shackleton, said, please bury him in. I believe he's
buried on South Georgia Island, and interested to note his
his actual grave is not oriented north south, but it's

(01:04:54):
oriented east west like the whales, because he had an
affinity for wales as well. Yeah, the iurys thought that
that was kind of, you know, just something random. I'm like,
why is it east to west? It was because he
liked the whales. Just like the whales, they tended that
east to west formation, So that was that was another thing.

(01:05:14):
But it's it's really interesting that this man, everything that
he set out to do he never actually achieved. But
his achievements were of literally endurance of fighting the odds
and actually overcoming them, and so he became this you know,

(01:05:37):
for a long time, most people, you know, it's like,
oh yeah, yeah, you know, Shackleton whatever, Scott was the
big wig blah blah blah. But eventually that kind of
shifted because books were written about Scott and about Shackleton
as well, and Scott did not come out looking very cool.
But it was that drive and that I don't know,

(01:06:02):
superhuman ability to overcome the weirdest odds that Shackleton had
that made him to be this giant and when it
came to exploration, so he would be one of the
ones that I would actually I would love to talk
to him about, you know, that particular calamity because you know,

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most people that obviously everyone is not dead, but a
lot of the people that survived it, they didn't write
books about it, they didn't write journals about it. They
just went on, you know, and it happened and they
went out with their lives and whatever. The closest that
we have to what happened was the journals that Shackleton

(01:06:54):
kept during that read this experiences and his I guess
his right hand as well. He also kept a lot
of the journals as well and corroborated a lot of
what was going on. So and it wasn't that you know,

(01:07:15):
there were copying off of each other. It's just that
it just so happened that, you know, Shackleton would write
about it, and so would his right hand guy. He
would write about it, and it was corroborative. So he
was just a very interesting individual in that I don't
think I think that only death would have stopped him,

(01:07:38):
and unfortunately that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
He's an interesting guy. Before I get into my final
one of the lists that don't count of our honorable mention,
I would like to point out before I mentioned my
next one that Aggie and I have not shared our list,
and this is just one of those times when there's
just some serendipity involved in a second, because my final
one that was actually well my final one that I'm
using on the shortened version of the list is Sir Edmund.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Halley get out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
And who don't know because I'm mist mentioned this earlier.
We've actually done a juxtaposition on the guy that you
just talked about, Sir Edmund Halley, was his inspiration to
become an explorer because he believes wholeheartedly in Edmund Halley's
theory of their bit that the Earth was hollow and
he wanted to set out and find So, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
That is all four of us get together again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
But yeah, so Halle not only did he discover not
only did he discover a comment, he also had a
theory that the Earth was hollow and there are lots
of folks that still believe it to this day. So
and Shackelford happened to be one of them. So but
I think the funniest thing about Shackelford is exactly what
you talked about, because he was one of those people

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that really tried to do all kinds of amazing things
and just never really could get him to go the
way he wanted him to go. And then the dude
Scott was like the Leslie Nielsen of explorers. He went
back in this shit and became famous and that that's
that's why old dude hated him so much, because he's like,
I'm out here busted by assid. You're getting lucky. But yeah,

(01:09:21):
I mean it really was kind of funny because right
after his passing, he became famous for a few years
because everybody started talking up all of his work, and
then he kind of went back into obscurity again. And
tell somebody mentioned, hey, when it comes to you know,
this kind of stuff, if you're gonna, if you're gonna
want to be somebody, to be this guy, because he
never quit. And that's no, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
He didn't quit. And I think somebody was saying from
the Royal Academy, I think medicine that we're reviewing the
records not too long ago, I want to say, well
years ago, but they were reviewing the medical records of

(01:10:04):
his passing, shackle Shackleton's passing, and they surmised that he
actually had a hole in his heart, which is why
he had that massive heart attack. It was the second
heart attack that killed him. He had another one while
he was en route, and he waved it off. So
that's a testament to what to his character. He was like,

(01:10:29):
he's like the you know, you know, tisipuit a scratch son.
He reminds me so, but yeah, I think he would
be an interesting guy. Holly Holly Haley, whatever, he would
be great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Oh but yeah, I know, so I just thought that
was interesting as soon as you said I said, it
was like, oh, that's kind of funny, because that's that's
right now, and that's just kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
No, I've always been fascinated with with Faculton, and you know,
just that whole age of exploration, of Antarctic exploration has
always fascinated me because the men that went out there,
they went literally into the unknown. And you know, we

(01:11:24):
say that about the space age, and even though we
know where the planets are, you know, Sol being the
only star in our solar system, blah blah blah, we
know these things. Whenever anybody leaves the atmosphere and goes
into space, that is still an unknown and so these
men were going into an unknown air. You know, this

(01:11:47):
was another world. This was a very harsh world.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
This was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Basically another planet. You know, it just happened to have
some oxygen. So you know, the bravery that all of
these men had, it's just it still amazes me to
this day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Oh, I mean, well, the whole thing because you know,
there is there's kind of becoming this emerging science because
they're noticing that everywhere that they find a planet is
actually in kind of a goldilock zone, Like they find
us it's actually a binary star system. They're curious as
to why ours doesn't seem to fit that criteria. And

(01:12:41):
there's an actual emerging theory that there is actually a
brown dwarf somewhere in our solar system. We just can't
see it, so I don't know which would be interesting.
But then again, there's also supposedly a planet that's in
a very long elliptical orbit that we only see about
once every four or five thousand years, so you never know.

(01:13:03):
But yeah, I'm not trying to turn this into a juxtaposition.
Although I didn't bring up a guy that was one
of the juxtavisions we did, so it's your fault anyway,
Just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Sorry, guess what's trending right now?

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Oh no, Amish, damn it already? What you do? I
notice he's not in chat anymore either. What did he do?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
You guys just said a wording like a half an hour.
What did you do? What did you do? I don't
have bail money and I'm not going to be your alibibro,
But no, all right, I think you have at least
one honorable mention. If I remember how this was working.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I do I have one?

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Do you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Okay, that's first Ury's technically it's your Okay, my honorable mention.
I could have saved them for another night, but it
was it was tough. It was between him and shack Shackleton,
So I have to pick Shackleton. It's my honorable mention?
Is Nicola Tesla? I have to go with Tesla because

(01:14:20):
I mean, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Dude? Okay, Now I got to come up with another
honorable mention?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Though, are you serious?

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Damn it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Okay, well we can. It could be a you know,
it could be a round table with you and me
and Tesla.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
I mean, who wouldn't want to pick that guy's brain? Though,
because I mean, I'll find the cool ast theories. I'm like,
he he he actually almost became the first person I
wanted to talk about to night. And I was like, yeah,
you know, I gotta I gotta give problem. But who
who wouldn't want to pick that guy's brain? Almost almost
everything that is into a credit for he invented first?

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yes, I I you know, growing up, we were all
told that Edison was the greatest inventor of you know,
blah blah blah and all that stuff, and then to
find out later on that oh no, he just stole everything.
I was like, well, who did he steal it from?
Then I found out about Nikola Tesla, and I started

(01:15:21):
reading on Nikola Tesla and all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Of the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
His interesting theories, his I mean, the breakthroughs that he
had me. His his forward thinking was I think, I
want to say in the maybe third millennium. I mean,
I I honestly, I was just like some of the
stuff I was reading, I was like, I don't understand this.

(01:15:46):
I just did doubt it. I cannot make it work
in my head. And I was reading Layman's terms. I
wasn't reading you know, mathematical or physics terms, and I
was just like, I cannot company and this. It's it's
kind of like reading Philip K. Dick novels, because for me,

(01:16:07):
those are the the worst books to make into film.
It's just impossible. He was so far out there that
translating them, even with CGI, you still can't do it. So,
you know, and for me, every single time that is
Philip K. Dick novel gets translated to film, I'm like, yeah,
I'm already prepared to hate it, but let's give it

(01:16:29):
a shot, and sure enough, I hate it. I think
I only liked maybe two maybe so. But anyway, but no,
with Tesla, I mean yeah, I mean I wouldn't even
know where to start to ask him anything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
I mean, the first thing I would want to ask
him is what gave him the idea to figure out
that you could transmit electricity without wires?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, like I said, I would, I would just sit
there and just say, dude, just start talking. I mean seriously.
One of the things that I I think it was
one of my kids was watching a movie where he
was featured, something about magicians or something, and I think

(01:17:28):
it was Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman wearning it. I
don't I don't even remember. But Tesla had made a
device whereby it could duplicate you, and that was the
magician's trick. I forget the name of the damn movie,
The Prestige, thank you bit, the Prestige. That's the movie.

(01:17:52):
And I thought that was and everybody was more involved
with the whole magician's thing, and I'm like, you're missing
the point. Look is the driver you know in this film?
And my kid is like, what are you talking about?
It's like Tesla's the driver. That's that's this is what
you should be paying attention to. And so she watched

(01:18:14):
it again from that point of view and she was like, wow,
you're right. You know it's because of what Tesla did
that basically just drove these two men to you know,
be like this or whatever. And so the movie was okay.

(01:18:35):
I thought it was kind of bizarre. I think, what's
his name is in it too? His name escapes me.
Michael Caine, he was in it too. But it was
the concept of Tesla making this invention, and it kind

(01:18:55):
of got me in into thinking, how many things does
this man, this man invent that we don't know about,
because there were a lot of things he invented that
he never got around to making the patent for and
he just hid or gave away or destroyed. So it

(01:19:17):
would be a very interesting conversation, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Well, well, so, first of all, the remote controls that
we take advantage that we take advantage of today, his idea,
the premise for them was his idea. But one of
the most interesting things that I found about Tesla, and
it's one of the reasons why he's always kind of
been somebody that I've looked up to is dude had
a I mean they call it idetic now, but photographic memory.

(01:19:45):
So basically, while everybody else was making notes and jotting
things down, and even he was quoted as to saying
one point when he was speaking to people about being
an inventor that he found that contemporaries of his day
lacked patients completely and didn't have the ability to just
be methodical about what they were doing. And then we
all make mistakes, and it's better to make the mistakes

(01:20:07):
now than to make them when you're actually in the
in the middle of actually building it, which is something
that somebody that can basically, you know, remember everything that
you ever see here or reed would probably say. But
it's just interesting because in some ways he's a little
bit like Musk too. This is something else that stood
out to me. He had this weird fixation with the
numbers three, six, and nine and thought that they were

(01:20:30):
the key to the universe.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
And he's not the only person that I've actually heard
this about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Well, yeah, but it all you know, well, that's that's
what I was about to go into. So basically, he's
alleged to have stated that if you only knew the
magnificence of the three, six and nine, then you would
have a key to the universe. Although it's uncertain whether
the great Inventor actually uttered the famous quote, there's no
question he was indeed obsessed by those particular numbers. What
did they mean to him? Why did Tesla think the three,

(01:20:58):
six and nine were important? This is something that now
lives on even past his death, and there's an entire
group of people that have taken that and expounded upon it,
which is why you're still hearing people talking about it today.
For example, doubling one and then two and so on
creates a pattern that excludes three, six and nine. Scientist
Marco Roden believes that three six nine then represents a
flux field or a vector from the third to the

(01:21:20):
fourth dimension. Anybody remember the flux capacitor that was such
a big deal and saying.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yeah, it had three prongs? Remember yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
So today TEP three six nine theory has new life
thanks to an unlikely source. Remember that Chinese app everybody's
been bitching about, Yeah that one so took Yeah on tektok,
the American version TikTok so. Their users seek to achieve
their goals by using a simple method, they write down
what they what they manifest, like a promotion, for example,

(01:21:52):
three times in the morning, six times in the afternoon,
and nine times in the evening. The belief is that
this repetition will manifest what the person desires, in part
because of the special nature of the numbers three, six,
and nine. It may not be exactly what Nikola Tesla
envisioned when he obsessed over the three, those three magical numbers,
but it's proof that the power of his ideas have
not dimmed or diminished at all. And like I said,

(01:22:17):
one of the most interesting things about him is the
number of inventions that he's actually credited with, because it's insane.
He like I said, he remember the you know, alternating current,
you know, yeah, that was his two So yeah, I've
always been somebody that I have been fascinated by, not

(01:22:40):
when I was younger, because of course in America, you know,
Edison got all the credit. Then you start digging through
other history, you're like, wait, this guy did most of
that first. That's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Oh wow. Yeah. I think that he would be sublime
as a as a dinner guest. And I can't honestly,
I can't even imagine how that the talking that, you know,

(01:23:17):
the conversation would go. That That is for me one
of the few people that I cannot even imagine what
the conversation would be like. I mean, for all I know,
he'll just want to talk about his cat, you know.
I mean, it's that unknown a quantity, but it'd be

(01:23:40):
kind of cool to actually figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Well, whatever you do, make sure you invite him and
tell him to arrive a little bit earlier. One of
the weirdest quirks this man had, and I kid you not,
because of his fixation with things like the number three.
He would walk around the building three times before he
regards bless of the size of the building.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Well, then I would have to ask him to come
at nine thirty six.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
That might that might freak him out. But yeah, I mean,
when you think about being obsessed with the numbers, the
number especially well, I mean the number three, because it's
actually the base for the number six and the number nine.
It does kind of make sense though, because there's so
many different things that we see in our world that
have to do with the number three. Triangle has three sides.

(01:24:29):
Pyramids technically have three sides. If you are a spiritual person,
and you believe what we believe God is actually a
try youn God, meaning there are three separate beings actually
and it it just goes on and on and on
and on. In scientific theory, there is a trifecta energy,
frequency and vibration, which he believed actually contain the secrets
of the universe. So I can kind of see why

(01:24:51):
somebody that you know, can remember everything, would kind of
fixate on things and be like, what about this, what
about this? What about this? But again, one of the
biggest things that I would love to sit down and
talk to him about is apparently he had a theory
about how to invent time travel, and I really want
to talk to him about that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
I see. That was one thing that I did know
was that he had a theory. I can't find it.
Nobody has it. I mean it might be on some
you know, papers filed somewhere or whatever. But he did
have that theory. He had a theory of gathering energy

(01:25:32):
from just the air. He had a theory of There
were so many that he had. But the thing is
the theories that he put to practice actually came about. So
it makes you wonder about the ones that he never
got around to putting to practice.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
You know, well, that's like the I mean, he was
so close to what we would consider zero point energy
because he was able to just pull the energy out
of the air. I mean, think about if that had
caught on instead of the very expensive way that we
generate electricity and stuff today.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Yeah, wow, Okay, my mind is blown.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
You're welcome right right towards the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
And on that note, Rick, why don't you tell us
what we can find you?

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Oh, don't find me. It's a trap. You can follow
along with the at Rady Ex seventy three. You can
follow along with the network at Kaylarm Radio and our
new news arm at Digital Beak in Us. Also, if
you would be so inclined, please go find the tweet
where Musk is talking about starting a new show called
sixty nine minutes and remind him that we volunteer his
tribute right here on Kaylorn Radio. You can find me
tomorrow night pushing buttons for the Front Ports Forensics crew.

(01:26:44):
And then I'm off Sunday because for right now we
are still doing Actually, I guess I'm off Monday too
because I forgot you guys, moved your stuff. So I
guess you guys are taking the shift on Monday, and
that means I get to yes, that means you realize
that we're working together on Wednesday again too. Right here,
you're like packing ay week.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Second Tuesday of the month, You're like packing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
You're like packing out your week. Here. I had a
deal with you again already. Damn, I see how it is. No,
that was you. That was you saying that, not me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, and you'll see me four times next week.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
At the bad thing. I'm considering having your husband bumped off.
He's married to the perfect woman. But no, So then Monday,
I'm off, I guess because I've been doing rails on Mondays.
But you guys will be doing your book things. So Tuesday,
you and I will be hanging out for Toxic Masculinity,
which is now the second.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
US Wednesday Wednesday, second Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Wednesday of every month. Tuesday, I'll be hanging out with
a man or am a panel right here live on
kl ARM Radio Thursday, jan and Rick Wednesday. We still
have full boat as far as I know, So you
guys know all of that by now, and then Friday
background here doing this thing with you and then next
Saturday hopefully juxtaposition now that I'm not having to pretend Hi,
it's me Madio, because yeah, I'm not a plumber. I

(01:28:02):
don't want to be one over again. I understand, I
understand why they make lots of but yeah, other than that,
I think that's it. And if it's not, that's close enough.
You can also find me as an occasional contributor Twisty
Misfits politics dot com and the Loftusparty dot com, and
occasionally coming soon to dropping an article here and there
on Buffoon of the Week dot com. I did actually

(01:28:23):
do a guest stent on Gene Show this last Wednesday,
so you guys want to go check that out. That
was really fun. He actually accused me of like upstaging
and mona Oon show. I thought that was funny, but
it was a joke. They've they're not used to seeing
me as fired up as I've been the last couple
of weeks, like, hey, Galloway, who the fuck is this

(01:28:46):
guy coming into our own showing upstage? That was great?
But yeah, so anyway, where can folks find you? And
more of your absolute magnificence, Where can they find you?

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
You can find me at Aggie Weekend and and Aggie
the barkeep. Those are over on x You can find
me Tuesday nights doing the Cocktail Lounge with the ever
Suave Bratslager at A thirty pm Eastern. This Monday, we
had to bump up our Spirited Books, So this Monday

(01:29:20):
you can find me at a thirty pm Eastern doing
Spirited Books with Jeff. And like you said, second Wednesday
of the month, we're doing Toxicvascularity. That's also next week.
Apm's at APM Eastern and that's where the guys get
together and we host the Baby of the Month and

(01:29:41):
I bring the drink of the evening and last but
not leased again on Friday, he said, she said, at
eight thirty pm Eastern. So that's where you'll find me
everywhere next week. That's the stars aligned. I want to
work to do next week.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Ay, thanks, Yes, that's gonna do it for this I
have not heard from Cats, so I think we're gonna
talk about maybe moving going mental till once a month
because I know he's kind of he's kind of at
his wits end with social media again lately. He's trying
to come back and then he's just like and then
I don't see him, so I think we're gonna talk
about maybe moving that till once a month so he's

(01:30:22):
not feeling so obligated all the time. Because yeah, I
haven't heard from him at all today, So not that
I'm mad about it or nothing, because I'm honestly kind
of warning the out too, so I don't really mind.
I'm just saying that's why there's not a going mental tonight,
because I haven't heard from him and I've been working
like two new cycles a day for the last nineteen days. Stops,

(01:30:44):
all right, Let's get ready for Christmas Day for the
MAGA crowd number twenty tomorrow and see what drops in.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I ever bought it? Man with Angels, Inglis and Sis