04-04-25 HS/SS Most and Least Favorite Flowers

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said she said, I am one of your hosts for
the evening a gie and with me as my awesome
co host, Rowdy Rick. How are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm doing all right, and in honor of tonight's topic,
I have a special opening. I feel it pretty. You're
so pretty.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So I texted and I'm like, what do you want
to talk about today? She like takes forever to answer me,
and she's like, I don't know. I don't know if
I'm even gonna be able to do the show, but
I kind of want to talk about flowers. I'm like, wait,
you want to talk about flowers?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Okay, Well it's April and it's showers outside. I mean, seriously,
I got hit the major thunderstorm. We had to earn
the warnings.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
So I realized this show started in kind of in
one of its generations was chick chat. But yeah, I'm
not a chick.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I know, I know chick chat. That was a long
time ago.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I actually had to do research because I was like,
I don't even have a favorite flower. But that's not
necessarily true.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I have.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I have some weird favorite flowers because I'm a guy,
so some of what I consider my favorite flowers might
actually be other people's least favorite flowers.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well, you know, a lot of people are like flowers.
But I know everybody appreciates flowers. It doesn't matter what
you know, guy, gal, it doesn't matter. People love flowers.
They bring joy. You know, there's some that don't. Admittedly,
that horrendous huge flower in the middle of the Amazon

(04:54):
that stinks to high Haven, that does not bring joy.
But uh, you know, for the most part, funny thing.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think you just mentioned one of my like top
two favorites just because it's weird unusual.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
The really ugly one in the middle of the ampizoone.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, it depends because well when you mentioned really bad,
terrible smell, the first thing I thought of was a
corpse flower.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
One of my favorites, just because it's weird.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Ah okay, well tweaks there.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'm a dude. You don't look at flowers the same
way as you guys, do. You guys are like, oh,
those just so pretty, and we're like, yeah, I know,
give me something that eats things or at least smells.
I get tried to.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, admittedly it's you know, it doesn't flower very often,
so I understand why it does and why it tries
to attract what it does, so it makes sense. It's
just okay.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
But yeah, so that's the topic for tonight. We're going
to be discussing flowers. I may or may not have
to run off and change into a dress or something
before the show's over. I haven't decided.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I just thought, Hey, you know the whole atted April showers,
Springway flowers, and today has been a really bad weather
day for me, and there's a lot of showers going on. Luckily,
the tornado warning has been lifted, but you know, there's
flash flood warning and effect for the area, and anyone

(06:32):
that lives in Texas knows that that is to be
taken very seriously. So I'm glad that I have something
to do to make me stay home, which is the podcast.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
So that's Hey, Raptor wife, he's not here. You can
wipe your nose, bro kidding.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's sweet that he does that. That is sweet why
he does.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's probably why he still has a wife. Yet I don't.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
I buy my own flowers. I don't wait for anybody.
I'm like, you know what, I feel like having flowers
to do I went to the store. I got some flowers.
And they don't have to be high priced flowers. They
could be you know whatever. I think. The other day,
I actually, you know, they had the day old flowers
in a bucket on the clearance section. I grabbed some

(07:20):
of those. There was only two of them were wilted,
so I just pulled them out, put up eight, you know,
put the rest of the ease, and it looks pretty
on the table. So and I like it. It's it's
something for you to appreciate. You don't have to wait
for somebody to buy you flowers.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Ever, Eggie's walking into the flowers store, flower shop, I
can buy myself flowers.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Wait, oh goodness. Anyway, but yes, today's topic is our
favorite and least favorite. So we have two, you know,
the most favorite and the least favorite. Two lists.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know, yeah, I don't know. One list about flowers
wasn't enough. We had to do too.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Here's the thing. I was really quick putting down the
ones that I don't like, but it took me forever
to narrow down the ones I do like. That was
kind of weird and I left out a lot. But
the ones that I don't like, I know that's a
fixed set because those that has never changed. So I

(08:32):
was quick to write those. It was the ones who
I like the most that was really hard.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, you know, because I mean your chick what you
like changes the next Oh wait, I'm sorry that sounded bitter.
Not really.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I honestly, when people actually try to gift me the
flower state, I have expressed my from my family members.
If they do want to do that for Mother's Day
or for my birthday, I prefer a potted plant. Let's
give it a chance to live. The cut flowers are

(09:13):
gonna die, but let's give something a chance to live,
you know. And I actually I still have one of
the potted plants that I received from a friend of
mine as a as a thank you for something. It's
still alive four years later. I'm so proud of that.

(09:35):
You cannot possibly understand how proud I am that that
plant is still going strong. Of course, it's a mother
in law times plant, so you know, but it has
propagated in the pot and it's gotten really big. He

(09:55):
gave me a tiny one and that was huge, so
that was nice.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Nice. Maybe Raptors should have co hosted this one. He's
like me, on flowers in the chat. I don't think
anybody is gonna like my favorites because they're all weird.
For the moment.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
We can start with the least favorite and then go
to the most favorite.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well yeah, but I mean whichever one you want to do.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, it's just the least favorite ones, all right, So
people are not gonna like.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Okay, descending or descending.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Uh, descending five to one, I guess sure. All right,
so yeah, and this is gonna probably hurt raptors feelings.
But my number five that I really don't care for,
is it canna? Oh I get it from It's like
a monett. Okay, so from afar, those flowers look really pretty,

(10:52):
you know, the green. The green is such a beautiful green,
and the flowers the yellow, the orange, bread very striking colors.
But when you get up close, for me, it just
looks like the flowers threw up. And I can't get
that out of my head. It's always looked like they're
throwing up. Ironically, I have some in one of my

(11:14):
flower beds that I I on purpose bought and put
in because I know several family members really liked them.
My mom. I think it's one of our favorite flowers.
My husband really likes them, and so I just said, okay,
we'll put them here, but be advised, it's not my

(11:35):
favorite flower. Of course, everybody else you have the rest
of the flower beds. And I said, you're right, But
it's just they always looked like they were throwing up.
To me, it looks like the you know, the stem
grows and then what.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
What you're saying? They gave you flashbacks so that one
time in college when you were hoping your drunk friends.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
I've always felt that way about them. I don't know why.
I even when I was little and they were My
aunt had them all along the east side of the house,
and I mean they made and she had them terraced
because she lived on a hill. She had them terrasts,
so she had it almost looked like the Spanish flag.

(12:24):
One whole section was red and the below section was
orange and the below section was yellow, and it was gorgeous,
but up close, I just I just think they're throwing up.
I don't know why, but yeah, anyway, how about you.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So my so oh, yeah, we're doing We're doing least
of the least favorites, my most favorites, mostly favorite first,
so I was confused for a second. So my number
five least favorite would have to be lilies. I don't
like which one lilies?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh? What kind of lilies?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, I mean, so it's it's weird because I like,
I liked the concept of like the Florida ly, but
the flower that it's based on, which is a which
is a type of lily I don't like.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
So so like the stargazer lilies.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, honestly, pretty much any kind of lily, because I
just I don't know what it is about them. I
think it was because I would my grandmother used to
try to love to grow them, and it was one
of the only flowers she never really could get to grow.
So I can when my grandma couldn't figure things out,
she was kind of cranky. So I think that's why

(13:44):
it became one of my least favorite flowers, because anytime
when we were over at her house, all she would
complain about is I can get everything else in this
garden to grow, but I can't get these lilies to grow.
And I don't know what I'm doing wrong, and my
neighbors don't know what. It's just a flower. I know
it's a guy thing. To say, and that's why it
stayed in my head.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Okay, So my next least favorite is the cone flower.
And a lot of people confuse this with a daisy
because it has like a brown button center and then
petals white, pink, purple sometimes the way and they droop.

(14:29):
The petals just droop, and it just it looks like
such a sad flower, and I just I just don't
like it. I I have tried to like this flower
because it makes for good uh. They attract butterflies, they
attract bees, they attract a lot of you know, the

(14:53):
hummingbirds and everything, and I really like want to put
them somewhere so that the birds and the bees can
enjoy it. Not been intended, but I just can't get
over the fact that they just look so sad, and
every time I look at them, I'm like, this is
the saddest flower I've ever seen, and I just makes

(15:14):
it makes me depressed looking at this flower. So that was, Yeah,
that's my number five, And I know some people really
like it. My sister among them. She actually has the
front flower bed. She just put in several for the
express purpose of the hummingbirds and pollinators. And I saw

(15:40):
a picture of it. It's like, oh, it looks nice
straight away, she answers with I know if you don't
like them, it's not your house. She's always not not
an like them, but.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Whatever, nice and yes, I know why you' SUPPECI to
asked what kind of lilies you were waiting for me
to say, Cali lilies. I know what you were asking.
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Now, but but there are some like, you know, the
the lilies of the valley. It's a different type of
lily too. So when you say general lilies, I'm like
seeming like the spider lily, daily, tiger lily star, the
ones that half the little the six pedal thing going
or does he be all the lilies? So you said

(16:31):
all the lilies, I said.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Pretty much all of them, well except for except for
despite what I think it was Stephen that said in
the chat that it was obviously tiger lilies. Because I
hate Peter Band, bitch, I am Peter Band, all right.
So my number four least favorite is gonna surprise some folks,

(16:55):
But at the number four on my list is sunflowers.
I don't like. I don't like them a lot for
several reasons. One their seeds pissed me off. So my
first wife was not a very neat person, and she
absolutely loved the eat sunflower seeds, and despite how often
I tried to get her to do so, I could

(17:16):
never get her to buy the ones that were already
shelled in the back. So I would come home after
working twelve hour days to a house that was often
littered with sunflower seed shells. So that was trigger number one.
Then my second wife absolutely loved sunflowers, and now I
just can't stand them at all. I don't even want
to see them. I don't care. But it looks like

(17:37):
the sun and it's so shut up, just shut up,
no sunflowers. Boom bad. Nope.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, I'm gonna make your day. I'm gonna make your day,
because that's by number three. Nice and some you know,
I like sunflower seeds and I will, you know, crack
them and everything and all that stuff. But I do
prefer them already shelled, right, so I don't have to

(18:08):
deal with that, especially when I use them in cooking,
like if I'm making like breads or muffins or something
perfect with that. Whenever I crack the shells and everything,
for me, it's more of a soothing mechanism. So I'll
do that. But I always take care of you know,
I gate keep my my shells, you know. But I

(18:31):
just I've never liked them. I've always thought that they
were like so weird looking. The setter is huge, the
petals are tiny and frilled, and I like the concept that,
you know, it just it turns to face the sun
and everything. But you know, it just reminds me of
that weird baby in Teletubbies. It just every time I

(18:56):
see a sunflower, I freak out with that. It just
that's the connection that I'm made. And no, my kids
didn't watch Teletubbies. But when I baby, when I would babysit,
my niece who was around the same age, she loved Teletubbies.
Say they just my oldest.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You know, my kids or my nieces or nephews ever
really got into Tellodubbies. Barney was bad enough.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I didn't understand the Teletubbies. I think there was a
question of all of the color that was in that
show that she enjoyed because she never learned how to
speak from it. She didn't learn anything from it that
I can recall.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean, I don't they barely talk.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
It's hard for a right, But then you saw that
face like the sun, and I'm like, that is that's
not right. I just was like, don't you want to
watch something else? She's like, no, no, tell a Tubbies,
tell it tums. I'm like, oh god, okay, fine, And
I would put it on while I was doing my
passage or whatever. My kids didn't like it, so they'd

(19:54):
be playing with something else, you know, doing some kind
of exercise or coloring or whatever, but she'd be watching
Tello Tuppies and I'm like, well, you know, if my
sister allows her to do that, that's fine. But I
just I always thought that that that face every time
I look at a sunflower, it looks like that sad
part is my daughter's favorite flower.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Nice So uh yeah whatever whatever.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, So what's your uh, what's your number three?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So my number three least favorite A lot of people
think is a weed. It grows like one, but it's
really kind of not. It's it's dandylions.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I I I will admit they have some health benefits,
but I'm just I'm just not a fan because once
they start propping up, popping up, their heart as fuck
to get rid.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Of Oh yes, yeah, I get that, I mean, and
they're very pretty. They're really good in salads. Damp line
salad is one of my favorites. And you can make
libations from dandelions. Apparently they have certain properties and stuff,

(21:10):
but yeah, I can totally see it. And yeah, if
you don't catch them early, you're screwed.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Pretty much screwed, blued and tattooed.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Okay, So my next, not my least, my one of
my least favorite flowers, and it's really weird. Most people
really like these. It's an entire genus. They're called passion flowers.
And you would recognize them because they when they open up,

(21:47):
they're full of these frills, you very trendles all over
the place. And I just y'all, I y'all know that
I embroider. You know that I do cross stitching. I
see this flower and all I want to do is
stitch it. Shut It drives you crazy. So to see

(22:08):
all of those, it's like having, you know, a hanging
thread on your clothing, and I see all of that,
All I want to do is either stitch it or
clip it, and I hate it. I cannot stand to
see these things and bless my mother. I love her
to death. She saw one I had taken her to

(22:29):
home depot or something, and homepeople had some. She fell
in love with these things. My mom can make a
stick grow into a tree. I'm not even exaggerating here.
I had a rubber plant plant that somebody gifted me
in college during the bonfire buddy thing, and it died,

(22:51):
so I took it home, thinking Mom would like to pot. Right.
Mom decides to plant this stick in the ground. I
leave for spring semester. I come back for spring break
and that thing is six feet tall and I'm like,

(23:11):
when did you get this? She's like, that's the stick
you brought me. I'm like, you're kidding. It's a massive
rubber band. I was like, I can't believe it. A
branch fell from the swamp mallow tree that she had
in the backyard, so she decided to grow it in

(23:32):
the opposite corner and it's like thirty five feet tall now.
And I'm like, I remember when you planted that two
and a half years ago. It's a tree now. She's like, yeah.
Everything the woman, everything she touches grows. She has the
most awesome green thumb I've ever known. So she gets

(23:52):
into her head that she wants these flowers, and I'm
thinking to myself, they're going to take off. I just
know they're going to take off. So I told her, mom,
why don't you put them on this side of the house,
side of the house that I never see. She's like, no, no,
I need to put them here. I want them here.

(24:12):
She put them all along the front walk, and now
every time I walk through there, I just want to
take a needle to these damn things. She had to.
She has actually propagated doing so well. She had three.
Now it's twelve, and she's given five away because now

(24:35):
the neighbors all have one growing, just like, I hate
this flower. Why couldn't you get something pretty? I mean,
they're pretty flowers, so give me wild. It's just that
all of all of those, all of those little strings
just drive me crazy. I need to I need to
sew it. I need to either clip it or sew it.

(24:56):
Something's got to be happening here, and it tries to crazy.
But yeah, that's that's my number two.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Nice all right, So my number two. Let's see. Sorry,
I was looking at something else. I regret my list marigolds,
which is weird because you would think, because I normally
picked like the weirdest flowers is my favorites. But marigolds
confuse me because they look really pretty and they stink,

(25:27):
so I'm like, eh, not a fan.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I can understand that they don't have a I don't know,
their sense is kind of weird. I haven't been to
the back, but that's for the mosquito, you know, That's
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I do.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
We did used to have them in the back of
the house because that way, you know, because because the
smell works to keep a lot of pests away. So
we would have them in the back of the house
when the wife was doing flower beds when I had one.
But that was one of the things. For some reason,
that musky smell makes me sneeze worse than cedar trees,
and I wow, I'm really allergic to ceedar trees. So

(26:06):
that's another reason why I don't like miracles very much.
But then again, when you live in the country, sneezings
better than getting eaten alive by mosquitoes the size of
seven fifty seven.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
This is this is true. This is why I keep
you know, I actually pot them, you know, I don't
put them in the flower beds. I pot them and
put them around the deck, you know, and uh and
you know color or whatever. But they're small. So and
apparently my dog doesn't like him very much. She came

(26:37):
up and sniffed them. She backed the way going. That
doesn't sell. That does not smell, right.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I do not know, right, mom, not no, right, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
She was like kind of like fret. She likes she
likes the other flowers that I have out there, But
I'm like, learn to deal with it. It's because mosquitoes.
All right, So I guess I'm at number one for
my least favorite, right, yep, okay, so my number wine

(27:09):
Lee's favorite. Some people will be kind of shocked about
this because it's a beautiful flower. It's the dahlia. I
cannot get past the block that I have with the dahlia.
The dahlia is. It's a beautiful flower. I admit. It's
a beautiful flower, and a lot of people like it.
You see it in a lot of beautiful, beautiful spring

(27:31):
and fall floral arrangements, and it's it's so full and lush,
and I the petals are just amazing to me. It's
but I can't get past the fact, when I was little,
my grandmother taught me the language of flowers. And there

(27:52):
are several uh this would happen to be the language
of flowers that she learned in Spain.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
And so.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
One flower that she would not allow and in her
home was the dahlia. And she explained the dahlias the
death flower, and I was like, what do you mean
it's a death flower? And she said, where dahlias grow
it used to be a you know, a myth, legend,

(28:23):
whatever you want to call it. Where a dahlia would grow,
somebody was about to die, and so it was associated
as a death flower. And when people would pass away,
they would be buried with, you know, a coronal wreath
of dahlia's and and so ever since she told me that,

(28:46):
I've had a dismantal block about dahlias. And the thing is,
you know, I'll see them at the nursery, I'll see
them at Loew's home people or whatever, and they're beautiful,
and I'm I reach for them, and I stop and
I go back, and my husband's like, they're beautiful. Why
don't you like them? And I tell him the story

(29:06):
and he's like, you need to get over.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
That because I've never heard of that. I've never even
heard of that flower before. So I'm looking stuff up
and everything that I'm seeing about it, I mean like
I'm looking at something from flower glossary dot com and
it says that the dhali was a symbolic flower for
eternal love and was a flower gifted to show appreciation
to another.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yes, yes, that is, that's part of it. But there's
a myth, a legend or something that's associated that my
grandmother learned about when she was little and learning about
the language of flowers, which she you know, in Spain,
and so for her, dalias were for boughten. It was
it was death and it was associated with death, even

(29:48):
though it was a love flower, and it didn't mean
that you wanted that person to die. What it meant
was that person was going to pass away and you
gave them to dhalia because that was the love flower
upon death, you know that kind of thing. But I
but she just refused to have that flower, and so

(30:08):
that's that transferred to me.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So well, the thing's tripping me out about that, right
there was apparently there are different meanings for each different
color type of the dahlia flowers. So is. As a
matter of fact, I just found an entry from the
language of flowers, and the inherent meaning and symbolism of
a particular plant can also vary based on the color
of the flowers produced. Red Dahia flowers are known stay

(30:33):
or a known symbol of both strength and power. Because
of that, you can give them to a sicker, recovering friend,
or a get well soon gift. So I'm just thinking
if you if you accually walked into somebody's hospital room
with the wrong colored dallia, they're gonna be like, you're
trying to kill me or save me? What do you know? Well,
see what it happened.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Was yeah, and you know, like I said, this was
what my grandmother told me. It could have been I rodios,
they have heard it wrong or her, but she was
very insistent and she just drove that into my skull
and it just it took root punintended.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
So yeah, no, you see what it happened was your
grandmother hearing a story from somebody who took somebody a
red dollia flower and they died. And then they're like, no,
the flower doesn't mean what we think it means. It
means it's death. It's kidding. I'm just balling at this one.
I have no idea, but yeah, it's it's weird because

(31:30):
that's one of those flowers that has like a million
different kind of color combinations, and I guess each one
means something different.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
So yeah, it's the same with carnations.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I guess. So interesting that you had mentioned since that's
my number one least favorite flower, really, carnations. Carnations remind
me of the awkwardness of prom for one. For two,
the flower is always kind of weird because the only

(31:58):
reason they have a lot of these cool, brightly colored
ones now is because of hybridization. The original like before
humans started being humans, they were kind of fleshy colored,
so which is kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, it was life flesh pink color. Then people said.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
That color is not good enough. Speaking of which, not
that this has anything to do with flowers, but I
read something today that freaked me out. I don't know
how I've never heard it before. You know how everybody says,
when life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Lemons didn't exist, so life can't give them to you.
Man made those sons of bitches. They're a hybrid. Yes,
life should give me lemonades. You made you My life
can't give me limons. You made these damn things life didn't.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Life can't give you lemons. So you know, screw that.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I always back, he would make it. Women's just thrown back.
They was trying to make lemonade out of them. But yeah,
I read that. I was like, that is just kind
of a weird thing to think about, because everybody's like, oh,
if life gives you women's make lemonade, men made those,
which explains why they're probably bad luck.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
But yeah, so that that was just something else added,
and there was something else I read that was weird.
Today I'm still looking into the article. But apparently there's
a science that is postulating that stars might be aware,
like actual stars, not Hollywood stars.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Stars. Stars are sent.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
You apparently potentially, which reinforces my Amish's theory that we're
living in a simulation because if the fucking stars are sentient,
there's no way this is real life.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Well, you know that's kind of interesting because oh man,
now my brain is not going to stop. I'm gonna
lay in bed tonight and my I'm gonna be wide
awake and I'm going to be like, are the stars
peaking in my window? Kind of checked. But that's kind

(34:25):
of interesting because you know, we have well Christians, you know,
I'm not familiar with whether or not others religions do this,
but Christians, you know, believe that sometimes angels live like
the stars. The stars above, are you know, angels watching
over us? You know that kind of thing. Well maybe

(34:49):
it's true.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Well what what kind of When I first read the headline,
and like I said, I haven't dug into the article
where much. But when I first read read the headline,
first thing I thought of was one of the series
that Gene Roden Mary came up with later in life.
It was Androma to the one with Kevin Sorbo in it,
Yes and right when, So that one was kind of

(35:12):
just the usual sci fi stuff until halfway through season
four into I get I think it was season five.
I think that season five may have been the last one.
But then it got really weird, like suddenly, you know,
because you know, the ship, which was artificial intelligence, also
had an avatar, which is basically an android. Well it
turns out that every star had an avatar too, and

(35:35):
one of the people that's been on the ship the
entire time, was an avatar to a star. Why so
when I read that, I was like, Okay, that might
that's that's that might be getting that might be pulling
from that collective consciousness thing again that we talk about
all the time, because it's weird that that would come out,
and then somebody's trying to put out an article postulating this.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
But anyway, I wagging out.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
You're welcome. Aggie's gonna have to Aggie's gonna have to
turn on her favorite serial killer to sleep.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Then there was Man, there was a TV show. It
was actually, oh, I want to say it was a
three part series on sci fi and I forgot what

(36:31):
it was called. I want to say it was Ascension, Yes, yeah,
do you remember that?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Was it six?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I thought it was three, but.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I was six, and I don't miss I think they
build it as a mini series after they realized it
wasn't gonna be done anymore, because it quit on a cliffhanger,
and I was pissed. It like a mini series has
a beginning, a middle, and an end, not a beginning,
a middle end, more of the middle. But we don't
think we're doing it anymore. So fuck you, because yeah,

(37:04):
I was like, okay, but no, I actually just recently
rewatched it the other day. It was it was, it
was an interesting.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
It was it was really cool and I really I
know that this is all nothing to do with flowers
or anything, but the concept of having you know, placed
people on this ship and then you turn the ship
to you know, mimic the stars and all that stuff,
you know, to make them still believe that they're you know,

(37:33):
still in space or whatever. And it was it was
still home, it was still here the whole time, and
it was it was. It was really cool concept. And
I'm starting to think, you know, the stars are sent
then you know, this TV show would kind of explain
what the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Well yeah, I mean think about it from this perspective.
If the stars are sentient, then maybe we're the laboratory.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, you know. And it was and
it was it was actually pretty well done. I was
hoping that it would get picked up and it would
become a series because they kind of left it all
a cliffhanger.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
But I hadn't watched it in forever, and so one
of the times when I was down sick, when the
last few months, I went in and turned it on.
I was thinking, Oh, I've watched this before. I'm sure
I'll be able to fall asleep. Dude, I was. I
sat there through the whole.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Thing, yeah, and it was like it was now I'm
now I'm gonna be waking out. I'm going to be like,
what if the stars are watching us? What if it's
not stars? What if we are in a simulation? What
if this is the matrix, only not as bad?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
You know?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
But if it were the matrix, we would not be
able to get AI to work, because the AI would
already be existing, and they'd be like glitching it so
that it wouldn't work, so that we wouldn't go down
that path yet again.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Not necessarily, because if the AI is controlling everything, then
the AI can sculpt the the simulation version of AI
to make sure that it only reaches a certain point. Anyway, God,
I don't want to think about this. Otherwise it would sarta.
Otherwise they would start tipping us off. But since we've

(39:20):
already gone down this rabbit hole, we might as well
just finish it off. I found a video I'm going
to be watching later that ties into one of the
topics that Amish and I talked about on last week's
Druxtu position, the whole nineteen ninety nine thing, because apparently
now there's a video where somebody's put it together. It's
like twenty something minutes long, and I'm gonna be watching
it probably tonight, and it's talking about how we're stuck
in time because everything actually ended in nineteen ninety nine

(39:43):
and we just don't know it yet.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
So Prince was right.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Apparently damn it.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Now, when did he cut out early? He was done?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Nope, done, he went on. I know. Did he passed
away not shortly after he did the whole Super Bowl thing?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah. It's just he was such a great talent.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Dude that I don't I don't even know if there's
anybody like him anymore. Like I didn't even I didn't
even realize until later when I started studying about him
that when he first started doing like the studio recordings,
that was him on almost every fucking instrument.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Every single instrument he played, I want to say, twenty
seven instruments or some some ridiculous amount of instruments. He
did all of his instrument he did all of his producing,
he did everything and you know, you have uh, people
who want to be singers, you know, going on American

(40:44):
Idol or America's Got Talent or whatever helping to you know,
I guess, but it is the voice is another one.
I don't know what the TV. I don't watch them,
so I'm not sure, you know, but they're hoping to
make it big into the recording industry. And I'm like,
y'all don't get it. You gotta pay your dues. This

(41:07):
is maybe this is like really easy. But even like
take clearly Kelly Clarkson for example, she won the first.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
You know, yeah, she was the first one ever and
she was the first one.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
But after that she had to work really, really really hard.
And she you know, there was an interview she said,
I knew that I had to work. I did not
know that I had to work thirty hours a day.
I didn't know how hard it was going to be.
But I but she loves but singing was her thing,

(41:43):
and she was willing to put in the equity.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
You know, Well, that's just it. Nobody does because from
the outside, I mean, unless it's something like you know,
you're watching you know, cops or firefighters or whatever. Do
they think most everybody has no idea how hard somebody
else's job actually is. I mean, I've done everything from
scrubbing toilets to flipping burgers to run companies. Ain nothing
about anything easy, really, I mean, and that's one of

(42:07):
the things that I've always tried to make everybody understand.
One of the things that drives me crazy, especially from
people that I know that have worked their way up
the ladder, is eventually they start treating people like dirt.
And I'm like, dude, if you are, even if it's internally,
if you are above people, then technically those people not
only are supposed to be your employees, but in reality

(42:28):
they're pretty much your customers too, because the happier you
keep them, the longer they're going to be willing to
stay with you. And if everybody doesn't remember that, pretty
much every aspect, no matter what your job is, customer
service is always going to be a part of it. Now,
I would also like to throw out a caveat that
the customers always right as bullshit, and whoever came up
with that idea should be drug behind a car until

(42:50):
they can't walk anymore, because that's just wrong. But at
the same time, you do have to find a balancing act.
That's one of the things that drove me the most crazy.
And I know I've talked about this story before, but
like the second person in charge of our entire organization
would come in once every couple of months and you know,
go in and talk to the managers. Well, at one
point he came up and he started talking to me,

(43:12):
and ever since then, anytime he was in the building,
he would come find me and be like, you got
a minute to talk. I'm like, as soon as I
get off this call, as long as you tell my boss.
And everybody around me was like, oh my god, he
comes to talk to you. Aren't you nervous. No fucker, no,
I'm not nervous. He puts his pants on one leg
at a time, just like everybody else does. But I
have also discovered there's an exception to that rule, because
you know that that's what everybody says, no matter how

(43:33):
rich you are, no matter how well off you are,
no matter how poor you are, at the end of
the day, everybody puts their pants on one leg at
a time. My ex wife jumps it, jumped into her pants.
I'm not even kidding. I saw her do that. I
was like, what did you even just do that? I
was like, you you just broke one of like the
cardinal rules of life is that everybody is the same

(43:55):
because at the end of the day, we all put
our pants on one leg at a time. She's like,
you know me, I'm always different. Fuck you.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Jumped to do cands.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
But yeah, all the time she would just she would
get things set up just right on the bed and
get her feet in there and then just jump off
the bed and pull them up at the same time.
And I'm like, I don't know how you do that
without falling on your ass, but that was impressive, all right.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Anyway, backing out, Okay, well, I guess we should segue
into the.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Favorite a favorite, which for me is going to be
backwards for probably most everybody else. But that's okay. I'm
weird like that.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
All right. So at the bottom of my list is
and there's no reason why she's at the bottom. It's
just whatever, the blue bonnet, which is my state flower.
But I i'd love her, she is so pretty.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Don't love her very much. She's at the bottom of
your list, Well.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
But there's there's a reason. It's it's just that.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I wait wait, no, no, no, no, you said there was
no reason she was at the bottom of realist. So
which one is it, ma'am?

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I had I had to make conscious decisions, you know,
where I was going to put everything. She made the cut. Okay,
she made the cut.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
You know you're making the blue bonnet, right, You're supposed
to be one of the bottom.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Well, you know, the sad part is living up here,
I seldom get to see blue bonnets because they live
in more warmer areas and than than up in North Texas,
but especially in the northeast where I live. So it
would for me and I have to actually get containers

(45:53):
and try to grow them there. But uh, the blue
bonnet has always been for me. What you would drive
all of these long distances on the Texas highways and
would see the carpets of these the variants of blue
in there, and it's just it was just stunning. And

(46:15):
then you add, you know, there are other wild flowers too,
but for me, that one just stood out so beautifully.
And you know that there's the legend of the blue bonnet.
That's really cute. They sell that book at the at
the Alamo, shocking no one.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
But in the world. You chose butter as your one
of your top five flowers.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
But one of the things that Texas A and M
is famous for is that we will fuck up every
gene sequence known to me, and especially in agriculture. And
we came up with a variant of the blue bonnet
that was the maroon and it's called the Alamo Fire.

(47:01):
It is beautiful and it's a gorgeous color. And yes
it's maroon and white yay Gigham. But it is also
protected because technically it is a blue bonnet.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
So I think you mean crimson and cream.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Man, No, no, there's two. Alimal Fire was the first one.
Crimson and cream came later. It's a darker, it's a
little orange color. But Alman Fires I was taking.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I was taking a jagget Jabby or Aggie comment.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Oh no, no, no, don't you there, don't you there.
I don't know, I don't care, alamal fire whatever. No, no, no, no,
the first one was out. But actually they have several variants.
So when you said crimson and cream, yeah, that's possibility
because they have several variants. The it wasn't just to

(47:55):
make our school colors. It was to make the blue bonnet.
In several other school colors so that the schools could
also plant them, you know, and let them germinate and everything.
Because they are protected. In the state of Texas, blue
bonnets are protected. You cannot mow them down until they
go to seed. So there was an incident.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Dun, dun the field.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
There's a field that's in front of the what I
call the Devil's Tower over in ut Austin, which is
the clock tower, and it's beautiful, beautiful lawn and everything,
and blue bonnets grow there and of course, you know,
by law you do not mow them down. You wait
for them to go to seed. Well, intrepid aggies actually

(48:49):
planted seeds of animal fire in there and they grew.
But not only did they grow, they grew first. So
one day you see them, you know, start growing, and
the next day you see them flowering, and you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait,

(49:10):
they're not blue. And so you t was kind of
upset about this whole situation, and you Tea was reminded, yeah, okay,
this is true, but you cannot cut them down because
they are protective flower. There are there are state flower
and you must let them go to seed. They did

(49:33):
not within a day, they were mowing them down. So
then you had two factions. You had the people who
absolutely load Texas in m and the environmental, peace loving
tree hugging section, which, by the way, that vent circle

(49:56):
is almost a solid circle. And they were finding on
the because of what happened with these flowers, because they
knew you should not have moted them because they are
the state flower. You're not supposed to vote them until
they go to seed. But if they go to seed,
guess what, you're gonna get more red ones. So UT
was placed in a situation where they had to mow

(50:19):
and then somebody said, no, actually you didn't have to mow.
You could have pulled them up, and UTE was like,
oh shit, yeah we could have done that, but too late.
Oh well, we mote them. So they mote them and
then they replaced them with the with the regular blue bonnets.
But because of that incident, it took UT a long

(50:42):
time to actually recover their reputation as being very you know,
caring about the environment, caring about the the blue bonnet
and all this stuff and whatever, because of the fact
that they rather mote them down than let them go
to sea. Now this is you know, our schools have

(51:04):
gone back and forth, and they have had several you know,
running into it, especially with the colors. The one that
ut got us really good with. There's a brick building
in College Station, and the brick was supposed to be maroon,
but the guy that was in charge of it was
actually a ut alum, and so he formulated the brick

(51:28):
to be maroon. But as the sun as it keeps,
you know, getting the sun shining on it, the brick
will turn to burnt orange over the time, and it did.
So there's this burnt orange building in College Station. So
when Waterburger came to College Station, the deal was the

(51:49):
water Burger had to have at least one maroon stripe
on their buildings in order to be in College Station.
So all of the water Burgers are in College Station
have a Maroon's stripe on their on their roof because
I don't know if anybody else is familiar with Waterburger,
but it's it's orange and white orange, white, orange white.

(52:11):
It has to be. So that's the deal. Anyway, Ample,
long enough about the blue bunnet. How about you? What's
your number five?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
My number five favorite flowers actually kind of a normal
one where the weird ones don't come up till later.
I do actually like orchids, so that's my number five.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
They are so pretty.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
They've actually become really popular in the last few years. Again,
I thought it was interesting that apparently they're really popular
in California.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Really.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, I didn't know this either. Apparently there's like fifteen
hundred separate species of orchid. That's a lot of flower species.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Well, when I was in Puerto Rico, we had about
quarter acre I don't remember, maybe I don't know how
much our whole blackyard. We had a lot of trees
that were fruit trees. We had We had a couple
of avocado, five guava trees. We had lemon, lime, grapefruit, cheeto,

(53:21):
and ha. We had a a what do you call it,
guanamana bread fruit. We had papaia, We had a bunch and.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I don't know what you just said, but now I
have the Muppet song in my head.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
The orchids grew naturally there. Mom never had to plant
an orchid. They just grew in the trees because they're
a parasitic flower. And whenever Mom and my dad had
a formal occasion or if they had to take flower
to anybody or whatever. My mom would just go pick orchids.

(54:04):
I did not know orchids were a high folutin flower
until I came to the States and my sister is
going to a dance and her boyfriend brings her a
an orchid and it's all in this pretty package, you know,
the clear plastic with a pretty glittery foofy stuff on

(54:27):
the bottom and everything. And I was like, wow, that's
really pretty. You package that real well, And he said, no,
I got this from a flower shop. And I'm like,
they don't grow here. I didn't know. I had no clue.
I didn't know, but yeah, my mom had, you know,
if she need a vanilla, she just went to the backyard.

(54:52):
And yet now you can't buy vanilla, a little thing
of two vanilla beans for like twenty five bucks.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Like, holy shit, crazy, right, Hey, I'm a sure welcome bro,
love you man. You're welcome. What can I say? You're welcome.
I was going through some stuff the other day and

(55:19):
I found and I forgot. I actually forgot about this
until I saw the video one of the first one
of the first times I saw it. There's the clip
of Sandra Bullock on there when they're talking about that
song and she starts going kind of nuts with it.
It was kind of hot.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
She's such a treasure. Not gonna lie. She's so funny,
she's great. She's extensively easy on the eyes and extensively
funny and very talented.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Multi We've worked together long enough. You should have known
it wasn't just gonna be just you.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Uh but no, I thought he was being as smart
as she's like, No, I mean that, really, I was
afraid it was just gonna be me.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Like, you should have known better than that. By now, yep,
you really should. You should know better. You guys are
like on the same wavelength. So yeah, alright, so my
fourth one, you're not gonna lie because it's already it's
already on your ship list.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Well, damn it.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
The Carnation. But there's I know, but I have there's
two stories that I have with the carnation, which is why.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I again does it? What does the story involve death? Again?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
No? Okay, it's actually it's actually a good story. When
I was in I think it was eighth grade, Uh,
you know, I Valentine's Day, they would sell the flowers
and uh, they were always carnations and it was like
a dollar and so that way you could send flowers

(57:14):
to all your your friends or you can, you know whatever.
I bought one for my mom, and you know, they
came and you know, they said, you know, Diesel and
there you go. Now you know my name Aggie, and
I said, uh, yeah, that's it. And so I went

(57:35):
and picked it up, and not thinking anything, I'd just
put it on the desk, you know. And so the
class resumes and everything, and and of course, because of
all the deliveries that day, during that time period, we
weren't going to be doing much in class or anything.

(57:55):
And so another one comes and they say my again.
And I was like, but you already delivered my flower
and they said, well, this one has your name on it.
I said, well okay, and people were like ooh, and
I'm like, no please. I probably bought two for my
mother and I completely forgot. So I got it and

(58:17):
I put it on my desk, you know, and everything,
and I didn't think anything of it. So I go
home and I bring them to mom, and my sister
had done the same thing. So Mom gets, you know,
three flowers and everything, and Mom sees the cards and
then my mom says, this one's not for me, and

(58:39):
my sister came home with eight. One was for mom,
the other seven she got from guys. She's very popular,
so I and I said, well, who's it two? And
she gives it to me and says it's Look, it's
from a secret at my it's for me, it's for you.

(59:00):
And I was like, nah ah, that doesn't happen. My
sister from upstairs, No way, that doesn't happen. It comes
running down the stairs to see the tag to make
sure that it was for me from someone right, And
I kept that tag and I still have that tag

(59:21):
in my memory book, the scrap book that I keep it.
And I had forgotten all about that. One of my
good friends died Election night in twenty sixteen. He and
I graduated from high school together. So matter of fact,

(59:43):
I dated his older brother and we're still very good
friends to this day. It wasn't until after his passing
that his brother is going through his papers and all
that stuff, helping his wife organize all that stuff, and
he sees stuff from eighth grade and he thought that

(01:00:05):
that was you know, they would get a good kick
out of it, even though his wife was not in
the same school with us. She didn't actually go to
school with us until ninth grade. Yes, also a good
friend of mine, And in it he finds his journal
and they start reading it and it comes to find

(01:00:27):
out he was the one that sent me the flower
and it was a red carnation and I still have
the tag to this day. And I sent his brother
a picture of the tag and we called, you know,
we had a phone call and we were talking for

(01:00:48):
two hours, and I said, why didn't he ever say anything?
And he was like, I have no idea, But I'm
kind of glad that we didn't start dating until after
I left high school. I felt really past. It's like, yeah,
me too, but he was. You know, I was so

(01:01:10):
touched to find out that someone I considered a very
close friend had done that. I kept quiet all of
these years. I never knew until after his passing, and
I wish I had known beforehand because I would have
loved to have told him what he did for my
self esteem. That was the only time I got anything
from a secret admire which is the reason I kept

(01:01:33):
a tag to this day. So you know, it would
have been nice that I could have told him, you
know what it had meant to me, even if it
not led to anything, because we were still good friends
and we had remained friends until his passing. So you know,
that's one of the reasons I like the carnation. Another

(01:01:55):
reason I like the carnation is that it's the Mother's flower.
It is said that when Mary cried when Jesus died,
her tears fell upon the earth and the carnation sprung
from them, and this is this is the flower that's

(01:02:15):
associated with Holy Mary, and it is also associated with
Mother's Day because of that, it is the Mother's flower.
So that's why I gravitate towards the carnation as being
one of my favorites. I'm sorry, Rick, I disappoint you,

(01:02:38):
but yeah, that's that. Those are the two main reasons
why I like carnations. And they last forever. I mean,
you buy carnations at the store, you can put that
in a vase for like three weeks and they're still around.
So that's why I like them. Two. They last for
a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Cool. Cool, all right. So my number four, which apparently
didn't even make either one of your lists because you know,
but as gruff as I'm trying to sound and not
just to play up the idea that you have me
talking about freaking flowers. I know, teazing. Number Number three

(01:03:18):
for me would be roses because I actually am slightly
romantic when when I have the ability to be. So
my favorite ones are actually white roses.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
White roses, yep, oh lovely. I actually bought one for
the front, one of the front the flower beds, and
I'm like, I'm really hoping it takes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
It's one of those It's kind of like the the
Grammar story that you told earlier about that one flower,
but for me, and I don't remember it's it's not
it's not native to here, but there's a certain country
and I don't remember which one it was that believe
white roses symbolized new beginnings, so that once I read
about that one, I'm and it always kind of it

(01:04:11):
quickly became one of my favorite flowers. It's easy to
talk about red roses, you know, and I'm really not
a huge fan of red roses because I kind of
view those in the same vein as Hallmark movies and
Hallmark Holidays, because you know, Valentine's Day completely just jacked
up the price of roses once a year. But yeah,
I do like I do like white roses. Yellow roses

(01:04:34):
are probably my second favorite roses.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
I like them hobby orange yellow. Yeah, those are so pretty.
I was at the I was at one of the
nurseries and they had the JFK flower and I was
looking at going, those blooms are huge, but it's not
They're not as big as the Peace rose, and I'm

(01:05:03):
looking at it, going should I shouldn't I should? I
shouldn't have? Then I saw the price. Yeah, I shouldn't
walk away. They need to be pricey.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah. The friend I've been talking to likes fire and
ice roses, and I tried to get some for Valentine's
Day and I'm like, I'm not paying that much for roses.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
No, duo, they're there there, there's a little pricey kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
After Valentine's Day, I was like, yeah, I didn't know much.
You kind of spend them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
I Stephen actually says, you know, dip the rose petals
in a little powdered sugar and eat. I actually do.
I will take rose petals and coat them with egg
white and then sprinkle granulated sugar and we'll put that

(01:05:56):
on cakes and it is edible, and yes, I get it,
it's egg and people are like, oh, salmadella, but no,
you're fine. There's you're fine enough.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
It's good enough for Rocky dammit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
And if you have issues, you can get egg white
substitute and do the same thing it does. It does
pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Aquafaba will do the same thing. You just can't use
water because it will not Water will just dissipate, it
will not add here anything. So but yeah, I've decorated
cakes with and cupcakes with flower petals that are covered
in granulated sugar because it makes them all very it

(01:06:38):
looks it looks shiny, crystallized, you know. So, but yeah,
I do that. Okay. So my number three is the
shaft A Daisy. I don't know what has happened, but
I love daisies white with the little yello center. The

(01:07:00):
Shasta daisy is my favorite, and it is such a
happy flower for me. I see those and I immediately smile.
It doesn't matter what. It could be a hairpin, it
could be a necklace, it could be a T shirt.
I will see a representation of Shasta daisy and I

(01:07:21):
will start smiling immediately. I don't know what it is
about that flower, but it incentivizes me to feel happy.
It's not the prettiest flower out there, but I really
it makes you feel good. So that's that's one of
the reasons why I like it so much. I mean,

(01:07:41):
it is a pretty flower, don't get me wrong. And
I may or may not own certain items of flogging
with it on it, perhaps two or three pairs of earrings,
a few necklaces, and shoes that have little daisies on them.

(01:08:04):
Yes I do. I do own choose I have daisy's off.
But it just of all of the flowers, and it's
not even my it's not even my number one, But
of all of the flowers, that is the one that
literally brings a smile to my face. I will start
smiling the moment I see a daisy. It's just I

(01:08:25):
don't know what it is about it, but it does
it just it just makes me smile.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
So meanwhile, I'm always meanwhile, I'm away here smiling having
a fat kid moment, because every time you say the
word daisy, I'm thinking, do a little dollar a daisy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
I do not buy generic. I buy daisy sour creating
because of the damn flower. I know there's organic and
right next to it. Nope, I will grab daisy because
that flowers on that container. And by god, I'm gonna
be smiling.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
So what are we at? Number three? I think is
where we are? Yes, all right, so my number three,
and this is where things are gonna get kind of weird.
And Aggie's probably gonna go ooh, and I'm sure Danny
will probably go oh. But even some of the guys
are gonna mate, what the fucks aren't wrong with you?
We don't know, nobody knows. Just deal with it. My
third favorite reflesia.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
The corpse flower.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
No, no, no, no, no, it's not the corpse flower.
That's my number two. The corpse flower is actually something
completely The corpse flower is different than yeah. So this
one is actually the reason you're confusing them, though, is
this one is another one that has one of those
peculiar kind of odors. It's a parasitic flower. It smells

(01:09:58):
like decay, just like the corpse flo but it has
kind of fleshy looking spotted blooms. So the reason this
one stuck out to me is the first time my
kid brother ever saw when he called it a zombie flower.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
A zombie flower. That's pretty fucking app.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
That was kind of stuck in my head. I was like, eh,
that's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
That's pretty apt though.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yeah. So apparently, even though it's stinky and it's a
little weird, it's still one that a lot of folks
keep in their backyards. Really, I found was interesting. It's
actually considered in some regions of the country at backyard staple.

(01:10:45):
But even though it does get planted a lot, it's
still fairly and firmly unloved the I think that's probably
why I like him, because these are flowers that nobody
else likes, and I'm just like, I even feel had
for flowers, damn it. My favorite flowers are ones that
everybody else is like, I don't even know if that
should count as a flower.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I well, you know, a lot of people are like,
the poisi is my favorite flower, and I'm like, you
realize that read part. Those are the leaves, the flowers,
the little yellow things in the middle. And people freak
out when I tell them this. No, they say, no, no, no,
that's the the flower, the red petals. I said, no,
those are leaves. Those leaves, my flower are the little

(01:11:36):
yellow things in the middle my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
You know, the whole thing with like missiletoe round Christmas
time and you tell them, you know, you're actually standing
a below a poisonous plane. Because one another they're like,
it's poisonous.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Oh yeah, very poisonous. As a matter of fact, the
missiles always used they would make a tincture out of it,
and uh, well Year's hundred series, hundreds of years ago,
they would make tinctures out of it. They would also
make and a uh uh you would drink it to
to expel a baby, so a border patient. I was

(01:12:16):
trying to think of the word. Uh. And if given
in large enough doses, if it has been distilled to
its essence enough, you can kill a person with a
very small dose. And women used to do this. They
would put it in their husband's beer because it would
cover up the taste beer was rather bitter. So so, yeah,

(01:12:41):
lots of lots of high thinks, we're done with mistletoe.
I'm not saying anybody should do this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Well, you're like, why else, why else would it represent
love if it were not poisoned?

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Well, oh goodness, yeah, okay, point taken too, point taken too.
Uh let's be for I guess we're number two. So
my number two is geraniums. I love them. My grandmother had.

(01:13:25):
It's really weird to describe my grandmother's house. And in
Puerto Rico, you don't have lawns unless you're very, very wealthy.
Most most of the time, you just have a little
patch of land in front of your house and on
the side of your house, and maybe in the back.
And the little patch in the front of her house.

(01:13:48):
All she had with geraniums there and they we're all red,
and in that climate, geraniums bloom year round. I mean
they just they stick around, and she had them like that.
And then on the side of the house, the flower

(01:14:09):
beds were elevated and she had several things, but in
between there was a red geranium. So you have this
beautiful red running down on the side of the house.
Then upstairs in the balcony, she had potted geraniums on
like you would on a what do you call it

(01:14:31):
window window box, but they were over the railing and
they would surround the entirety of the of the balcony,
so you had this beautiful red and green on the
on the top as well. It was her favorite flower,
and I never I never forgot that, and so for me,

(01:14:52):
every year, I get y red geraniums in her honor.
So every flower that I have in my back on
the back deck actually is in honor of somebody in
my family. And the geraniums represent my grandmother. Oh yeah,
my mom. She's tough because like I said, she makes

(01:15:16):
everything grow. And uh so it was really really rough
until I found out that her favorite flowers were the
stargazer Lidley's and so I put those back here too,
and they look really nice. She doesn't know about that though.
I haven't sent her pictures because I've been changing so

(01:15:38):
many things around and it's just a mess. And the hydrangeas,
she loves those two. So and I have high Grande's
as well. So and my mother in law likes azaleas.
Guess what I got back there too, azaleas. So I
have hyder rand yet azale grand yet azalea. And it
looks really nice, you know, up along the flower the

(01:16:00):
flower bed that borders the back. So but yeah, the
geranium I have such wonderful memories of going to her
house and seeing all that red and the thing is
the official flower Puerto Rico is flow the magat. I
am not even joking when I say this. My got
m a g a That is the official flower of

(01:16:23):
Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
So you can imagine, you can.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Imagine how some people were pissed off a whole about
the whole maga thing. It is. It's very it's uh.
It looks like a high biscus, but it's actually it
grows on a tree, not a shrub like a high biscuits.
It's actually a tree and it's a deep, beautiful red,
has the same type of pistol and everything. The uh,
the flower petals are shaped a little differently, but that's

(01:16:52):
what a lot of people say. Oh the high biscus. No, no, no,
high basics is totally different. That's a wise ship. No,
the Puerto Rico is flow the maga. But I can't
get one to grow here, so you know, I I
just make do with painting it on a rock and
putting it out in back deck.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Well, girl, here, so you get a rock, You get
a rock, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
And what's your number two?

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
My number two puts me really close to Wednesday atam,
Wednesday atams and myself having something in common. My number
two is in fact, the in fact, the actual corpse flower,
which is very rare but infamous because it smells like
rotting flesh. Yeah, and only and only only technically flowers

(01:17:43):
for a very brief period of time, which is again
another one where everybody's like, well doesn't that really mean?
It's nice? As soon as it can pop up flower.
It doesn't matter how long the flower lies, it still
makes it a flower.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
This is true. This is true. And I imagine the
sand attracts the insects for the pollination purposes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
So pretty uh, I mean that's exactly what happens. So
but yeah, so yeah, I remember in Wednesday, the first series,
the first season of Wednesday, there was a point when
I think it was that one. It was either that
in one of the movies. But Wednesday was like having
a cow because there was a there was a there
was a corpse flower. Oh my favorite, almost common because

(01:18:29):
I have weird tasting flowers. Yeah, he was needless to say.
When I had a wife who would do flower beds,
I was not allowed to pick things mostly, which is
why I had to start coming up with at least
a couple of normal flowers to put on my list.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Can they can't grow up here, can they?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
I know they can't that they have to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Be Okay, fine, that's too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I mean I have a black thumb anyway. So even
if they could grow here, they would and grow for me,
So that's great. Gracie would be like, Papa, that's gross.
I know that's the point. Kid, You're weird. But yeah,
that's my number two. And if memory service, I'm pretty

(01:19:19):
sure it was discovered in the Amazon.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
I believe, so yes, we'll just too bad because if
it could grow here, boy, that would repel people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
You know, you wouldn't need any sizes to get off
my loan. You can just plant one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
All right, okay? And uh, last for me, but not
least my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
And not her state flower, which hasn't the blue.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Not my state flower? I get it, I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Get it made the blue bonnets said, uh, the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Kali lily is my favorite ever since. And I'm not kidding.
When I first got here, one of the first TV
shows that I saw was on the superstation, the WTVS,
and it was The Monsters and Lily would go to
bed with one of these flowers, and I was like,

(01:20:21):
what the hell is that? I did not know what
it was and I finally asked Dad, what is that?
And he says, that's a flower. He's like, that's not luck,
that's not a flower. That is not a flower. That's
a flower. And he goes to the encyclopedia to look
it up, you know, and of course it has just

(01:20:44):
a little blurb and everything, but he tells me the name,
this is what it's called. And so on the next
trip to the library, because my dad would take me
and my sister every Saturdays and we went to the
library and everything. I went up there and I said,
I need to find pictures of this. And I showed

(01:21:06):
her the name and she said, you'll find that in
this section, you know, go to the card catalog. Yeah,
card catalog and look through the section and look for
books on the leaf. And so I did, and I
searched and I searched and I searched, and I saw it.
I said, that's it, that's the flower. And yes, this

(01:21:28):
was well before the Internet where one could just ask Siri,
hey what is you know, or send a picture to Google,
you know, to identify or whatever. You actually have to
go through several straps steps in order to find what
you're looking for at a library, and when I found it,
I was like, this is it. This is the flower,

(01:21:49):
this is what Lily goes to bed clutching. And I
always thought that it was so cool that she slept
with a flower. It became my favorite flower. I had
it when I got married. That's what I carried. I carried,
ok Cali lilies and I had and I had them
growing in my first home all along the front of

(01:22:13):
the house, and now I have several, you know, and
on on the lawn here. But I've always enjoyed it.
And that's how I fell in love with that flower
because I saw it on the monsters Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
I had a feeling it was going to be out
of your number two or your number one, because as
soon as I said I hate Lilly's, I could feel
a side I would you said, what kind of what kind?

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Well, the thing is I did not associate the lily
with death. I just thought that it was so cool
that she went to bed with a flower. But then
later on I realized, oh, she's sleeping like the dead.
But it's still my favorite flower.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Yeah, it was symbolism for sure. It was just throwing
that out there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
But yeah, so alright, how about you, what's your number one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
My number one is probably something nobody would have thought
to have ever made a number one for their most
favorite flower, and that would be the venus fly trap
because it doesn't flag flower.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
I guess you saw my morning tweet with it right
this past week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
I did not know. I didn't notice it, So yeah,
I just only I noticed your morning tweets. I don't
remember seeing a venus fly trap on there. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
I don't know. I'd have to, I'd have to look,
But yeah, I had one that had the venus fly trap.
It chooses violence. You know, it could live on soil
and water alone, but every morning it gets up and
chooses violence. That was That was the That was the beam.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
It's kind of like, it's kind of like my whole
stick in life now that I make money being onry,
I choose violence so well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
A lot of people don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Know that because when they're grown, you know, because people
do grow them, but a lot of the people that
grow them, they'll actually cut the flower stalks early because
they they don't the flowering can actually drain the plant's energy,
so it actually stopped while it's flowering and actually makes
it harder for the plant to trap. So a lot
of folks that grow them specifically because they like how

(01:24:44):
it looks. When they like start eating stuff, they cut
the flowers off and they have well there's other there's
weird little rules to this too forward to flower, it
has to be healthy and it usually has to have
already undergne at least two psych before it'll actually start flowering.
But a lot of people that grow them, like I said,

(01:25:04):
because once it flowers, it takes a lot of the
plant's energy to maintain the flower. They'll cut it just
so it'll keep eating ship. But yeah, that's that's my
all time favorite flower, being a fly trap otherwise known
as dionea veuscapula. And I'm butchering it because I don't know,

(01:25:28):
but that's that's actually it's it's it's film, so.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
It's a you know, it's really it is pretty and
you don't, like I said, you don't have to feed it.
But I just you know, it's funny because my mom

(01:25:55):
has one in the in the in the breakfast there
of the kitchen. It's right there and there's you know,
family pictures, you know, on that ledge and whatever. Suddenly
there's a venus fly trap. More family pictures, you know, everything,
and I'm like, I wonder why it's there. Mom doesn't

(01:26:16):
know where to put it. It turns out that because
it's you know, it's a it's a succulent. She can't
really put it in the ground because she's watering every day,
so I can't go outside. She doesn't want it in
her bedroom because it kind of freaks her out a
little bit. But she likes it. She just doesn't want

(01:26:37):
it looking at her. I don't know what that means either, but.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
That's if I put it in my room.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
And she, you know, I said, well, Mom, you can,
you know, you can put it in the living room,
you know, or whatever. She's like, no, no, no, I
like looking at it. I just don't want it looking
at me. Okay, fine, I have listen. I understand that
women make no sense. I understand we're not the logical sex,

(01:27:10):
but even I have issues trying to make trying to
understand my mom when she says things like this, and
I just let it go. I let it go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
We actually we actually had one when David and Kyle
were little, and it was their favorite thing in the
whole house. And it was funny because Kyle was always
the rambunctious one. He would go out and find bugs
and bring them in to feed them to the damn
thing and then just watch and squeal when it eat them. Yeah,

(01:27:42):
you're gonna be You're gonna be a handful.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
And he was, Yeah, I don't know where my mom
got the little venus flag crack. And it's a small one,
which is why I missed it, you know, And I
didn't notice until like my third day there. It's just
tiny because she's got photographs everywhere and on that ledge,

(01:28:08):
it's all photographs and you know, framed and everything, and
suddenly there's this little piece. I thought, you know, at first,
I thought it was like a fake one because they
look fake. Yeah, it really fake.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
But I mean, then again, mosts look fake. That's the
weird thing about succulents. They honestly look like wax plants.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Yeah, they do. And it's it's it's you know, and
I and I always try to like make I just
I end up killing them too, and I'm like, I'm
just not gonna try anymore. But she also has a
little a picture meant, but she likes that one because

(01:28:53):
it looks like somebody with a very heavy dow laughing
at her. So she she likes that one. She has
that one in her in the master bathroom, you know,
on the uh so she can butever, but she likes
her picture plant. But the vena swipe dat. She's like,
I just don't want it, staring back at me, and
I'm like, it doesn't stare whatever. I don't know, she's

(01:29:22):
she's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Well, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Guess that's it though.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
That's it. We've come here time together, ma'am. Yeah, yeah,
so huh for this week anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Oh yeah, and I was. I almost didn't make it
because of damn weather.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
But you get to put a week.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Oh that's right, the second Wednesday. Wait, no, that's not
the second. Ones say that next week. Yes, it is
next week.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Ship Okay, Wednesday was the second woman, don't make.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Math me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
No, next next week is going to be full for me.
I have a podcast every night. Okay. So on that note, Rick,
where can we find you?

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Oh you don't have a podcast on Thursdays? Do you
got one? I don't know about it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
No, no, no, but I have Spirited Books. This Monday
I have launch and then yeah, so four out of
the five days, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
What happens when you get popular.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
Ma'am, I am not popular.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Four hundred and thirty seven of our friends would disagree
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Anyway. Tell us where we can find you the trap.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Don't look for me. You can find me at righty
x seventy three on those social media platforms. You can
find me Tomorrow night pushing buttons for the front Port
Forensics crew, and then I will be off on Sunday night.
You can find me Monday night after these two wrap
up doing the America Off the Rail show, before we
hand things over to the SHR media crew Tuesday nights,
doing the man A Rama Panel Wednesday, kicking things off

(01:31:12):
with the new show Inquiry, which kicks off this coming
week at seven pm Eastern every other Wednesday night now
and then we'll go into Tox of Mexican and any
and I'll be there for that, and then pushing buttons
for everything else or hosting everything else. We usually run
programming depending on who's available until about two in the
morning on Thursdays, then back around doing put and pushing

(01:31:32):
for disasters and the making on Thursday, then hanging out
with Jen as long as she's available. Bug was under
the weather this past week plus some weather stuff was
given her fits, so we weren't able to do the show,
And then Friday background doing this thing with you, and
then next Saturday we will be doing a juxtaposition and
sometime as soon as we can confirm it, we have

(01:31:54):
another show coming online. I'm not saying anything else until
we've confirmed every think, but it's kind of a big
deal and you already know who it is, so you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Bush, Yes, I do. I'm not saying a word, but.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's where you can find me.
And when I'm not doing all that, I also contribute
to Misfitspolitics dot com, Twitch, you dot com, Office Party
dot com. Man I produce a office party podcast which
usually drops on Tuesdays because it's not like I don't
work enough. That's it, folks, that's our Friday. John has

(01:32:27):
requested a hiatus. Started talking like Porky the pig there
for a second, so he will determine when going mental
goes comes back. You actually did that really well. I'm
sad I've never been able to, at least not on purpose.
I can do it accidentally all the time, but never

(01:32:47):
on purpose. Bye everybody, Bye bye, even any