05-02-25 HS/SS Favorite TV Moms & The Return of the Trad Wife

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Welcome everyone to another episode of He said, She said,
I am your host, Aggie, and with me is the
very awesome rowdy Rick. How are you doing this? Rick?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Don't let her sell herself short to your folks, even
though it's kind of a hype thing because she's the
hostess with the mostest. But anyway, I'm.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Good, I am, I'm fine, i am not vertically challenged.
I am fun side. Yeah, there's several of us in
the chat. As a matter of fact, that qualified. So there.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know what happened. You know what happens every time
you say fun size. All the guys in the chat
are like Giggy Giggy.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
I always use it because of Brad Williams, the comedian
who happens to be a little person. That was his first.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I absolutely love that guy.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
He is so great. He is so great. But his
first show was called Brad Williams Fun Sized, and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's me. I think one of the favorite closures I've
ever seen him do because he had something. He had
some hot chick up up on stage with him, and
at the very end of his act, right before he
walked off stage, he's like, hey, have you ever seen
a midget walk off with a hot chick? No, you're
about to okay, now, that is epic.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
That is a man confident in his abilities no matter what.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh, look, we have a rare sighting of a Zeldacus
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Speaker 6 (05:11):
So hey, whoa, yes, there's a lot chat. This is awesome.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I right, Hey, the show's back. We're going to go chat.
It threw me off because I was like, have we
really not done the show on that long? And then
I forgot last week was was Alice in Wondermand, And
I think that taken a break the week before or something.
I don't remember, because the last date I had anywhere
archive was like the middle of April, and I'm like,
has it really been that long? Doesn't be done the show?

Speaker 6 (05:39):
But I think the last thing that we did was
the one hit Wonders.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And that's what I well, that's what that was. What
was archive, and I was like, have we really has
it really been that long? But then I forgot about
all the weather crap and everything else.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah, we had bad weather, so we had to
skip that, you know. I think the last episode we
have was the on the eleventh, I think, and I
was the old that Yeah, and of course did Alison Wonderle,
which was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Really, it was.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
I'm still laughing about. Yeah, the accents and everything. I
always did an accent. I'm like, I have too many
lines for an accent. This is not gonna work for.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Me, dude. I had so much trouble after I did
Dodo because I kept trying to give the King like
a Bernie Sanders feel to it, and then I kept
slipping the cartmen, so it was like this weird thing.
It was like Bernie Cartman or Cartman Sanders or something.
And then I got thrown off even more because my
internet quit right as we were getting into the meat
of my lines. And the funny thing is, I don't

(06:40):
think i've I don't think I've said this on this
one yet because we haven't done one. The irony is
because I usually try to scout the lines about a
day or so before, just so I can try to
figure out where I'm going to do some ad libs,
and some of my libs, like when I started cutting
out Jeff, that was complete improv because he called me
and I was just like, you can't call it king racist.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Yeah, that was that was a bit of ad living done.
I was so excited to have as my code darrator
to my clone error. So we actually talked on the
phone trying to coordinate our stuff two hours before the show, y'all.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
So yeah, I knew where you guys were going with it.
But at the same time, it kind of it felt
like the Muppets balcony about kind of.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Well saddler.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
It was like when when my internet cut out, that
was the point that I had decided just to try
to do a bit of a nod to Ron. I
was going to work in two or three literally in
a row, and that was the time my internet just
completely cut out from forty five seconds and everything had
to come back up and spin back up against it
like six seven minutes to get back in. So by
the time those lines were completely gone, and I'm like,

(08:01):
we're on you, bastard. You killed my internet on purpose
just to keep me from using the word literally, didn't you?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
He may have. I would not put a past Ron
still live with He's still living with us, so yeah,
I wouldn't put it past him, not one bit.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
The chat is happened tonight. I want to give a
quick thanks to everybody. I mean, we've I can't even
keep up there. I mean right now, they're all just
saying hi to each other. But it's like new notifications
every two seconds.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah, it's happened.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's a Friday. Do you people not have lives? I mean,
don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, but live. Shouldn't
you be out in the world right now?

Speaker 6 (08:44):
You know?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
We don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact that
you are. I'm just being a smart at but still,
Oh okay, So.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
It has been weak, hasn't it.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's it's been a week to date. I mean, and
it's it's not. And the funny thing is this is
this is kind of slow compared to how things have
been since the administration changeover. But it still feels like
we're like cramming an entire week's worth of stuff into
a single day. And I think it feels just that
much worse because we're used to the dude who was

(09:17):
in bed by nine with tapioca and calling DDS before
eight thirty and you know, and like not doing anything
at all. And now it's like this dude never stops.
I mean, he's constantly on social media, he's constantly doing interviews.
I just saw him doing a phone and interview I
think yesterday on News Nation. He's got his administration every
time he turned around there in front of the cameras,

(09:38):
and even I got even I got trolled by the
admin because and and a lot of folks did because
when Walts got when the when the words started being
leaked out that Waltz was leaving the administration, everybody said, oh,
finally the unlike the Biden administration, drums holding someone accountable
for the signal Chat situation. And then we find out
he's getting the ambassadorship that was given up by the

(09:59):
chick and went back to playing Congress again. I'm like,
damn it, even I got played this time.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
I just I couldn't even keep up, and I just said,
you know what, I'm going to take a little break
from all the political stuff. And I was, I mean,
I was reading it, obviously, I was keeping up with it.
I just wasn't really commenting on a lot of stuff.
And I mean it was just I was so draggy

(10:29):
this week. I mean, I'm trying to get my house
ready because my folks are coming next week. And for
those of you in the saga, yeah, my folks were
supposed to already be here, but the guy that's driving them,
a good friend of theirs, got sick and so he
couldn't make the drive. But he can drive up this

(10:50):
coming weekend. But then my sister decided to ask Mom
to visit her first because she's not going to be
at her house. She's going to be in Nolla and
I'm going she has two separate homes because her husband
works out of town, so they bought another home, and
so she's going to be at the Arkansas house. And

(11:14):
I'm like, if my parents were coming, I would drop everything,
you know, to be there for them. Meanwhile, she's like, no, no,
you got to do it on my schedule. And I'm
like what And my mom is like all in with it,
and I'm like This is not the bomb I grew
up with. My mother would not have tolerated this what happened.

(11:38):
I'm at this point that I'm convinced she's a pod
person now. I just I don't understand. She lets everything
slide except for me. She doesn't let me slide. She's
actually asked me, is the guest house ready? I don't
want to be embarrassed. I'm like, it's not your guest house.
I mean, the friends are going to be staying in
the guest house. Yes, but I don't want you embarrassing me.
I'm like, oh my.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
God, holy crap. I'd be like, okay, here, but let
me let me find you guys a nice hotel.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
There are no hotels here.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Sounds like her problem, not a problem.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
So but you know, I mean, she actually explained that.
She's like, I have hyped it up so much that
I don't I don't want you to let me down.
And I'm like, oh, mom, that was your first mistake.
Don't hype it at all. Just say it's a shack
and then when they come and see it's really nice,
they'll be very impressed. You're not doing it correctly. And

(12:38):
she's like, and she's like, I am not gonna lie
like to your grandmother. She still has not let that
go because I didn't lie to my grandma. I told
my grandma to lie about her age because well, you
know how, you know how you know how they are?
They you call and ask how are you, and they
spend thirty minutes telling you exactly how they are. Well, yeah,

(13:01):
my grandma, this was about oh, this was about twenty
years ago. She I'm calling her and to wish her
happy birthday, and she I asked her how she is,
and of course she told me and she was talking
about how she feels so old. And I was like, well,
you know what you're doing it wrong. You need to
add years to your age and that way you look great,

(13:25):
trust me. And she laughed about that. And then the
following weekend, like Sunday, Sunday after I want to say,
it was no, it's Monday. It was Monday afternoon. My
mom calls and she says, I don't understand what has
gotten into my mother because she was in Puerto Rico
at the time visiting my grandmother. And like, I asked

(13:48):
my mom what happened, and she says, I have no idea.
Always got into her. Somebody asked, you know, how she
was doing, and she says, I'm doing great for a
ninety year old woman, and she had she was about
to turn eighty okay at the time. Nice, so she
added ten years and the lady said, you look great.

(14:08):
My grandma took that with her and she was like
so happy. And I'm like, oh, that was me, mom,
And my mom has not let that go.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
You know what you just start doing. Just start randomly
sending your mom the link to the let It Go
song from Frozen. She'll get the hint of it.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
I had for a while, I had as my screen
as the wallpaper on my phone. They uh, the somebody
did it with let it fucking Go, and she's smoking
a cigarette and flipping somebody.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Off nice.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
And then I said, no, that's rude. So I reverted
to my Martini Malotov cocktail.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
So Hey wrapped her. It wouldn't matter if you had
a separate house or even just a separate room you
could hang out in the second you dropped your pain,
it's on the floor. You be pregnant again.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
So Raptor has a great family. Though, I got it,
I got it, so so yeah, it's been it has
been a very This administration shows no signs of slowing down.
And you know what really takes me off, just to

(15:22):
get political for just a few minutes is that it's
been one hundred days and the other side of the
aisle is condemning how we still have a bad economy,
we still haven't o this, we haven't done that, blah
blah blah and all this stuff, right, And I'm like, well,
I remember Reagan and his tax cut. His tax cuts

(15:44):
took about a year two for you to start seeing
the effects of you know, all of the economic things
that he did, you know. And I'm like, but you
guys expected like within twenty four hours of him being elected,
because I remember the moment he was, the moment he

(16:04):
won the election, it was it was Trump's economy. I'm like,
he's not even he's not even gonna be there for
sixty days. Well, putting his economy on him.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Part of that was Trump's fault, because the left always
likes to take him literally when they feel like they
can paint him. And when he was telling everybody, I'll
have most of this fixed from day one, and we're
all going, we all know you can't do that, but
you do you do? You do you dude? Vamp away
and then the left like he told you he was
gonna lower egg Christis day one.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
No, yeah, these are the same people that are saying
Joe Biden was all nuanced and I'm like, no, yeah, no,
he was just wanting ice cream, dude. He just wanted
his ice cream and he wanted to be left alone.
Let's face it. So oh, I did hear that Biden
is going to be interviewed. He was gonna He's gonna
go on on the view on the Jill. Yeah, with Jill.

(16:56):
I'm I'm I'm betting money with my sisters as to
who and talks the most him or her. I'm betting
it's Joe.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I just love the fact that Kami La Ma Hamasnik
is back on the stage again and spent half her
talk talking about dystopian elephants and shit. I was like,
what what now? What you guys? You guys have seen
the clip from the Zoo with the elephants. I'm like, yeah,
you mean the one where they were like protecting their
young from an earthquake. I'm like trying to abort them.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
You Oh, anyway, I know when not even supposed to
talk about politics because tonight's topic.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean, technically we are on the edge of politics.
This is one of those pendulum swinging back the other
way kind of things. And it was weird because in
World War Two, when all the women had to go
to work, all of a sudden, when all the men
came back, they were like, fuck this, we want to
go back to baking cookies. And honestly, with what happened
in the sixties and the seventies, I figured the pendulum

(17:56):
would have started swinging the other way well before now.
But there is a growing rise among the youth, the
ones that go back to being like the traditional housewife,
or as you put it, into the trad wife. And
I'm like, why the hell are we talking about Chinese gangs.
I'm confused because I'm.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Not gonna lie a triad wife. I would love to
do research on that, because I've never actually done research
on the triad but you know, you know, they have
to you know, Married to the Mob, remember that movie,
which is really great case, I mean seriously, that was
one of the funniest movies ever. But they had, you know,
mob wives. That was a TV show for a while,

(18:37):
and they've had series that are based on the wives
and mob and all that stuff, you know, fictionalized, but
but nobody takes into account that, Yeah, there's there are
certain things that women go through to be married into
that particular culture. So that would make for an interesting

(18:58):
one night podcast and then I would disappear.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
But then so, yeah, so let's not Yeah, So I
wasn't sure if we were going to be talking about how,
you know, the women of the Chinese mob wifs actually
run the entire thing, or if this was some new
fancy thing for like a throuple it's called a triad
wife or something. I'm like, wait, no, there's an I
am missing. So I'm like, so the one now, and
you're like, oh, there's a original wife coming back. I'm like,
oh okay. I was really.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
Like you said, there's the pendulum. Took it while for
it to swing back to that in that direction. But
what a lot of people here in the US don't
seem to understand that there are several cultures that are
still modern, that are still today, that are still very
progressive and you know, in accordance to everything that's going
on in the world, that's still favored that traditional roles.

(19:50):
You can go all over South America where you know,
especially like a place like Chili. Chili is very progressive,
they're very liberal, but the traditional roles are still intact,
you know, so we here we have as like a

(20:10):
there's a chasm, you know, when it comes to that
particular role, and feminism is probably more to blame than anything.
But what I've seen, even though that the traditional wife
role is coming back. And I don't like the term
trad wife. I think it's just it's an influencer term.

(20:31):
It's something that it gathers clicks and all that stuff.
And I'll explain that in a little but you know,
the homemaker, stay at home mom, you know, those are
terms that most people are familiar with. I've seen a
shift in the right to where they don't like the
trad wife. They don't like that particular role. They seem

(20:54):
to think that they're buying into what I believe was
the left step nision of a traditional wife. And that's
that that's really really bad because when you let, you know,
allowing the left to define that particular role as being
cringe or being you know, unworthy, because you're basically lowering

(21:19):
yourself to somebody else that has made the right become
very defensive in certain ways about that role and at
worst they actually are complicit with that definition. And there
was a young woman, Emily saves Usa I think her
handle is and some people may actually follow her, but

(21:44):
she actually went on a tirade and she is a conservative.
I mean, she's been on Gret Gutfells show. She's she
used to work for Kati La. I heard she lost
her job. But but when it came when it came
to that particular topic, the topic of the traditional wife,

(22:04):
she was she was bad shit. It's just like I
was watching this going that's not at all what a
traditional life is. And what she was basically doing was
in reinforcing what the left thinks of a traditional life,
that it is a role that is I guess Neanderthaltic,

(22:31):
and they believe that a traditional wife is something that
only the rich can afford to be because in nowadays,
it takes two people, it takes a double income to
raise a family, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And
I was like, you know, I I was. I was
a stay at home law and that was one of

(22:52):
the greatest gifts that my husband ever gave me the
ability to stay home and be there for the kids,
the ability to you know, he would come home and
dinner was ready, the kids were bade, everything was you
know done. I mean all he had to do. He
literally laid on the floor and the kids would crawl
all over him, and I'd be like, this is so

(23:14):
not fair. This is your quality time. You're literally taking
a nap on the floor while the the kids are
crawling all over you. And he's like, don't hate the player,
hate the game. But you know, I really enjoyed that.
And this young woman was saying, you know, you know,
if sure, if you want to make this hour though,

(23:36):
you know, go for it and everything, but don't think
that that's you know, part of being a traditional wife
and all this stuff. You know that it's very cringe
for women in her age range, she's in her twenties
to actually embrace that lifestyle. But as you said, that
is a swing back from you know, what happened with

(23:57):
the in the sixties when we had that resurgence of feminism.
That was not the best. It's not the worst, I
will I will say the current strain of feminism is
probably the worst one but but that one didn't do

(24:18):
us any favors either.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
The current strain of feminism is insane because they've basically
embraced the patriarch in address. It's really weird.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Okay, I gotta interject, Calvin is gone. But Calvin, that's
my number two.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Was like he threw that. He's like, I gotta go,
wh I'm throwing down there, I'm throwing down the gauntlet
first bitches.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
But but yeah, I was. You know, it was kind
of shocking to me to see that that particular term
has you know, been taken, has been kind of twisted
because not a lot of people on the right are
conflating with being trapped, being indentured to somebody else in
the household because like some people said, well if she

(25:14):
stays at home and doesn't have a job and the
marriage is not that great, you know, if she doesn't
have any skills, well then she doesn't feel right leaving
because there's nobody that to take care of, you know,
the monetary issue or you know, the financial aspect of it.
And I'm like, I've known women all the way up

(25:38):
to at least three years ago that have left a
bad marriage with nothing, not even having a job or
anything like that, they have left, and thankfully, with support
from friends and family, we're able to land on her feet,
find a job and start start over. I mean, women

(26:00):
used to do this all the time. And I don't
know if you remember. There was a there was a
country song I want to say it was Mary chip
and carpenter. He thinks he'll keep her. Do you remember
that one?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh? Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
And she was a traditional stay at home mom and everything,
and finally one day she just she she decided that
she didn't love him anymore because he took her for granted,
and she had borne three children, and she had cooked,
and she cleaned and she ironed and did all of
these things, and she said, I don't love you anymore

(26:33):
and left and she started a job in the typing pool,
working minimum wage while still raising her children. I mean,
it's and that was that song came out years ago.
I mean, it's not a new thing, you know, and
it just it's it's for me. It's just really odd
that the right, some on the right, especially younger women

(26:57):
on the right, have taken it upon themselves to actually
shit on that traditional role. And it boggles the mind
because these women also have conservative principles. They espouse conservatism
and everything, but when it comes to this particular role,
they're more comfortable adapting the left definition of that role

(27:22):
than actually defending the cultural definition of that role.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, and like I said, the weirdest thing is everybody
talks about how the parties and everything supposedly shifted way
back in the sixties with the whole passage of the
Civil Rights Act and stuff like that, and I'm like, no,
it never really happened, but I think it is kind
of happening now. And the weirdest thing is while we're
watching all this infighting going on with the Democrats publicly,

(27:52):
which I've never seen before, there is this weird kind
of splitting off happening with the right now too, because
there are people that are, like you said, they're taking
everything that we've always seen the traditional values and just
twisting them. It's just weird. I mean, that's like some
of this is our own fault, because with conservatives, we
always a lot of us felt like we were the

(28:13):
older folks, and then all of a sudden, we had
a few kids here and there paying attention to us,
and we would instantly elevate them and give them attention
and then eventually they would just go nuts a lot.
Candice owns who turned out.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
That was a big one. I was in my head.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Well yeah. The thing about it is that there have
been others before her, and I'm sure there will be others,
but that's because there are.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Some that have done a switch, like Megan McCain, that
have gone from that, you know, what the left would
define as a traditional wife to what the right should
define as a traditional wife. She loves being at home,
she loves raising her kids. I mean, she's all about that.
There was a thread not too long ago which she
was like somebody mentioned that she was baking bread on

(29:02):
one of the threads that she was on, and it
was I think it was a political thing, and She's like, I,
you know, I would love to jab, but I need
to go make bread. And Vegan was like, well wait, wait,
you got to. You gotta a recipe. I want my
kids to learn to bake bread, but I want to
start them all easy, and they It just branched out
from there, you know. So she's embracing that traditional role

(29:26):
really well, and she's getting a lot of shipboard. I mean,
I I just I don't understand why. And I think
it has to do with how social media has become
grifter's paradise. It has. It has just you know, there's
a lot of people who are invested in being influencers

(29:50):
because they get a certain amount of money back from
what they said. The engagement, farming, all of that stuff.
Traditional wifery for lack of a better term, that has
become a hotbed because I have seen women on the
right actually talking about it, and I've seen some men

(30:12):
talking about it as well. But the men, when they're
trying to do engagement, they will say something completely outrageous,
like yes, the woman should be serving the man. You know,
he's gonna get like two hundred three hundred reactions and comments,
you know with that and so. And the women on

(30:33):
the other hand are saying that, you know, this is
this is only something that the rich people can afford
to do, to stay home and bake the bread, and
you know. And one of the things that really disturbsing
I was watching some of the influencers on social media
and the videos that they post. I'm not I'm middle class, Okay,

(30:57):
i am middle class. I still would not be able
to afford some of the stuff in their kitchens. I
just couldn't. I wouldn't even be able to justify some
of the stuff in their kitchens. And they're there, and
you're watching these people and they they're just they're just
it looks to me like they're pretending to actually bake

(31:18):
a cake. They don't walk you through anything, they don't
explain what they're doing. You know, there's no recipe listed.
It's just them showing you that they're making a cake.
And I'm like, that kind of engage, that's for engagement.
You're actually using that role for engagement, you're not. I don't,
I don't. I honestly can't tell if they're living it now.

(31:40):
I'll be honest. There are different types of you know, homemakers,
that traditional role. There's different types. You have your the
one that I aspired to be, which is the fifties
traditional housewife. I love being that. I've I grew up
with that and I really like it. But you know,
you have your homesteaders too, ones that go out and

(32:01):
milk the cow, then go butcher the pig, then go
pluck the chickens, then go you know, get the eggs,
you know, and everything, and then you have your less traditional,
but you know the ones that go hunting with their
husbands and fishing. You know that you find up in
the Pacific Northwest specifically in certain tribes, and that is

(32:23):
a traditional role as well, you know, of a stay
at home mom for that particular group of people. So
there are differences, there are different types of traditional wife roles,
but it just seems to me like they're trying to,
especially people on the right, they are trying to actually

(32:48):
monetize that term and get clicks out of it, which
actually erodes the value, the cultural value of that particular
role in our society.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I mean, you're not wrong, because I was doing some
research today once you told me what we're going to
be talking about, and you're right a lot of it,
especially for the larger account following influencers, et cetera. It's
more about trying to push a vibe. But this doesn't
change the fact that they are building large followings from
this vibe. And I think I think I've kind of

(33:25):
figured out why because if you look you look at
some of these accounts, they are basically idealizing life in
the fifties and the cities, well, you know, late fifties,
early sixties, back during like the golden age of television,
so to speak. And I think it's because life made
sense back then. Life doesn't make sense today. Everything you
know not not to since we're talking about the golden

(33:47):
age of TV, everything was pretty well black and white,
and I know, just mean the television there were there
were there two genders, and there were defined roles for
each Things weren't as confusing. They weren't. They didn't. They
don't have to deal with all the stress of having
to be the always on person who has been told
by society that she can and does deserve it all,
when in reality, nobody can do everything, but society, society

(34:12):
didn't want them to know that. And I've seen more
and more women that have tried that have bought into this,
just like I bought into society's version of the American
dream for all this time, and then I just decided
enough was enough, and I just I've cast off and
started trying to do my own thing because I've done
all of that and I got nothing out of it.
And I think they're finding much the same thing because
they just feel like they're overwhelmed all the time because

(34:35):
society has lied to them you cannot have it all
if you try to have it all. You may have
a little bit of everything, but you're not gonna have
anything that you actually want because you're too busy trying
to hang onto everything all at the same time, you've
got to learn to let some things go. And part
of this, I think the reason people are starting to
figure this out. And this goes back to something an
Amish and I have talked about on a juxtaposition before.

(34:57):
I believe a lot of the first wave feminist movement
was actually a side oup because they were looking at
ways to increase their tax base.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
M I think that's why I very much believe that, and.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I think that's another reason why it took so long
for the pendulum to swing back the other way, because
the government's been fighting them on it. Because the funny
thing is, we're talking about traditional family rules, traditional family
everything else, and the government doesn't want that. Everybody's talking
about how it takes two incomes to raise the family.
The government wants that second income to be them. Kick

(35:28):
him to the curb, will give you money. Kick him
to the curb and we'll give you an apartment. Kick
him to the curb and we'll give you food stamps
because they you.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Get punished for marriage.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, I mean you get.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
You punished fromage. Okay, Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Nobody told me when we said to death it was
part that it was actually a lifestent woof damn.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Okay, No, I think you're right, and I am not
going to denigrate that are some families where it's a
stay at home dad and it works. You know, I
have seen that for a time. My sister, her husband
was stay at home dad, and she was the one

(36:15):
that was the main breadwinner. It didn't last forever because
it was a temporary situation whereby you know, he was
he was like just taking a break from that to
make sure that one of the kids had was he
was completely focused on one of his kids. She's a
blended family, and so my sister said, well, yeah, you

(36:35):
know that we can. We can do it on one
you know, that's fine. And so she was the main
breadwinner and it worked just fine. And every once everything
got settled with their child, you know, he went back
to work. But you know, she didn't give it up.
But I did see that she shifted to where she

(36:57):
became part time. And now with the advent of remote work,
she's working from home, and I see that a lot,
and yes, and you're right, you cannot have it all.
That was the biggest lie that feminists told women, you know,
in the third wave, that you could have it all,
and you can't. Nobody can. Men can't, women can't. And

(37:23):
it bothers me that there's some women that saying, well,
men can have it all. I'm like, I don't see men,
you know, in doing the same stuff that women do
at home and also working. I don't see them doing
all of that.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
It's but I have seen where you, like you said,
you can have a little of everything, and that would
be fine. And I think a lot of women have
figured out that they don't have to have it all.
They can have some of it to a certain degree,
and a little bit to a certain degree, and a
little bit of that to a certain degree, whereby they

(38:00):
concentrate on one thing, but have those offts. Like for example,
I was a stay at home mom and after the
kids left, I was kind of redderless. I was like,
what do I do? You know, I don't have any
grand killed kids yet, so I couldn't, you know, focus
on that. So I got into painting, furniture. I started thinking,

(38:27):
this is kind of cool, this is kind of fun.
And then I started learning about restoring furniture and how
to fix furniture and how to repair and all that stuff.
And I got and and that became my new hobby.
Not that I don't have enough hobbies. Okay, yes, I
still paint rocks and cross stage and whatever, but that

(38:48):
became my main hobby and I put my focus on that,
and so, you know, but I didn't neglect other stuff.
I didn't neglect other things that I would need in
order to actually have a you know, functioning lifestyle. And
I've seen my sister. She has two daughters, and one

(39:12):
of them is still in college, and she still lives
at home. So my sister decided to work from home
so that she could be there to help her with
you know whatever she needed to call it, you know,
throughout her high school and college and everything. And now
that her daughter's about to graduate, she is now ready
to give up you know that kind of you know

(39:34):
work so that she can concentrate on her husband's you know,
next step in his career and all that stuff. And
do you just have to understand when you're when you
decide to take the step to become a more traditional
rule in your marriage or in your life or in

(39:54):
your you know, domestic partnership or whatever you want to
call it. That If you want to work from nine
to five and bring in six figures, that's absolutely fine,
but you're going to have to give up something on
the other side too. And if somebody else is there

(40:15):
to pick up the slack, then that's great, but you
have to go into that knowing that there's going to
be a slack somewhere. And a lot of women were
told there would be no slack, that you could do
all this because you were better than him. That was
another lie. We're not better than men. There's compliment men.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I was going to say, neither gender is better than
the other. We're supposed to compliment each other exactly. But
that's just it. That's something that society takes away because nobody,
nobody teaches any of that anymore because the government. I mean,
think about it for a second. If we had a
stable home family life and we had a stay at

(40:59):
home parent, which everyone decided to do, that that was
always there. The government wouldn't be able to get their
hooks into the kids as easily as they do, and
there wouldn't be any of this transgender shit going on either,
because little Bobby and little Sudie coming home going hey Dad,
Hey mom, guess what the teacher says, they think I'm
a girl or a boy, and mom and dad be like,
good teacher said what Now, We're gonna go have a talk.

(41:19):
But that's just yeah. When they got mom and dad
focusing on being bread winners, it made it possible for
them to start because that's when all the after school
programs started because nobody can afford daycare. So once you
get your kid to a certain age, you could just
keep them at school for the extra hour and a
half or so and pay us an extra seventy five
bucks a day, and then you can pick up your
kid directly from the school. And it makes the state

(41:42):
the babysitter. What nobody talks about, and I've talked about
it on pretty much every show I've done for almost
seventeen years. This is a kin to the very thing
that Yakov Spirnoff warned us about when he came over
from Russia. Because the reason we have the pledge of
allegiance that we have is because we found out that
communist countries had something similar, except for theirs. THEIRS opened

(42:03):
up with the state is mother and father. The state
is never wrong. Always believe the state. When you start
hearing people within parent teacher groups and the teachers' unions
and everybody else saying that the teachers know better what
your kids need than you do, you should run away
screaming as quick as you can, because that is the
very thing that we have been born, bred and created

(42:24):
to fight, is a communist government trying to control everything.
And that's where they got us because when they came
up with this idea of getting in and look, I'm
not saying it's anybody's fault, none of the above, but
they played a mind game with women because they started
turning us against one another, and well, you think I'm
less than you because you're the one that makes all

(42:45):
the money. And I'm not saying there haven't been some
egotistical motherfuckers that have fed that through the years. We
were like, well, I'm the one that makes all the money,
so you're gonna do what I say when I say
it or else. No fuck that that. That's not cool either.
But the idea that the government decided, oh we're going
to get in the middle of this right here, and
then we're gonna double our tax base. Have you guys
seen what happens since they've doubled the tax base. Look

(43:05):
at what happened to our dollar from the moment they
started doubling the tax base. This In the sixties, the
minimum wage was a dollar twenty five an hour. It
was typically paid in five silver quarters. That would be
worth today thirty four dollars and ninety cents for those
five silver quarters. Look at what they've done to our
money because they doubled the tax base. The companies figured

(43:26):
out they could start charging more because mom and dad
had both had money now and all of these things,
all of this keeping us under thumb, started with this
because it started eroding everything that we were taught, that
the family comes first, that the country comes next. I mean,

(43:46):
everything I've ever been taught from the entire time that
I have been a child, was God family, country or
God country family. Some people flipping around the other way.
But they took two three of those things away because
the country doesn't mean anything to these kids anymore, because
they've been told as evil. God doesn't mean anything anymore
because God doesn't exist family doesn't mean anything anymore because

(44:08):
it's so fractured nobody even knows what it is. And
it's happening on purpose. And this is why now that
it's going on for as long as it has, and
thank god, it's at least trying to swing back the
other way. Now you've got these younger kids that are
coming into this going this is not what I want.
I watched my parents do all these things thinking they
were going to be able to be superparents and they couldn't.
And this is not what I want, and we need

(44:29):
to figure it out, and we need to fix it. Now.
The question is, well, our government actually let them fix it.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
Yeah, that's what's up for debate right now, isn't.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
It, Because I mean, you're right at this point it
takes two incomes to do anything. I mean, especially coming
off of the Biden crash that and everybody's like, well,
this is Trump's economy now, No, I mean, I think
you guys forget how long it takes to steer this
ship we call the United States economy. It's gonna be
months before we actually start seeing any of Trump's actual

(44:59):
policies kick in, because right now, all we really did
was in that the same budget that we had for
the last year of Biden's term anyway, and we're still
seeing vast improvements. I mean, like I said, diesel, diesel
in Oklahoma's below three dollars a gallon. I do not
remember the last time that I've seen that, So this.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Has been a while, because it's just it's now under
three dollars around here too, and I was like, holy crap,
I haven't seen that.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
In you're in forever. And that's the thing. Diesel used
to be cheaper than gasoline because it's a byproduct of
creating gasoline in the first place. So they were like, oh,
we're just going to figure out a way to make
money off of this byproduct. So we've got these other
engines that were originally designed to run a lift over
cooking oil, so let's just do this instead. And then
they're like, and now we can get Now we've got

(45:45):
people buying our gas. Now we've got people buying our diesel.
And then the then the climatards got involved, and suddenly
diesel was six dollars a gallon, and everybody's wondering why
the hell it costs thousands of dollars? Understood that but this,
this is what concerns me at this because yes, diesel
is finally headed back the right direction, which is a
good thing, but we're also looking at oil right now

(46:05):
below sixty dollars a barrel that is not sustainable because
it takes about sixty dollars a barrel to make it
profitable for them to be able to get it out
of the ground. If it keeps falling for too long,
we're going to start having a fallo off. I know
why they're trying to do what they're doing, but my
problem is, when I said this on today's show, unlike
the law of gravity, when it comes to prices, what
goes up hummost never comes back down. Because what happens

(46:28):
with the corporations and everybody's like, well, the consumers used
to this new price point, let's just leave it there
and then we can soak up some more of this profit.
And that's why I don't like big corporations. And that's
why I'm always so pissed off with the Democrats, because
they push themselves as the home the fighting team for

(46:49):
the mom and pop shops, when everything they do forces
mom and pop shops out of the business and the
corporations can survive these things for longer than the smaller businesses,
and then they keep their prices higher to make their
their shareholders happier because they can eke out these profits
and then eventually, just maybe, just maybe, they'll bring the
prices back down. And that's what concerns me, because we

(47:09):
need to figure out a way to make our money
worth something again, especially since we do have a growing
number of people that want to be single income families again,
because that, in reality, is going to be how we
save this country. If we have parents paying attention to
what their kids are being taught in school again, if
we have parents staying home and making sure there is
a stable home life and the kids have the things
that they need, that will be what saves us country.

(47:32):
That's the key to the golden age that Trump keeps
talking about. And it's weird that all this is happening
right now, all at once, all at the same time,
because this has been a periphery thing for forever and
now all of a sudden, everybody's talking about it.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
I know, but like you said, we do see that
things are going are going in a better direction with
Trump and everything, and I think that's one of the
reasons that particular that this role, the traditional life role,
is being attacked and being denigrated by so many. And

(48:07):
like I said, the right, some of the women on
the right are also denigrating it because they have bought
into the idea that this is something that is now
considered to be reserved for the privileged, reserved for those
who have money, reserved for the bougie class, you know,

(48:28):
that kind of thing. And it's not. It's not. And
I mean you and I both know. I think all
of my sisters are now pretty much stay at home moms,
and several of my nieces are stay at home months,
you know, and that is a choice that they consciously
made and they do not regret it. And yes, there,

(48:50):
I admit it was exhausting, but there was nothing more
wonderful than knowing that you were there. There wasn't not
for me. And so, you know, I remember my niece
asking me not too long ago, if I regretted the
choices that I made, and I said absolutely not. I

(49:13):
have never had a single regret in my life. And
she was like, really on nothing, not even like in
high school or in college. And I said, well, I
did regret taking that calculus class because the teacher was
an asshole. But that's about it. And she was like, no, no,
I'm being serious. I said no, So my I that's
pretty much the only regret that I could think of.

(49:35):
And she was like, but you know, you're so smart.
I mean, you graduated from college. You really had a
good career before you got married and you came that up.
And I was like, yeah, and the career didn't define me.
College certainly didn't define me. They helped me to become

(49:57):
the person I am today. I won't you know, I
won't lie about that, but they didn't define me. I
defined myself with the choices that I made and that
was the best choice that I could make for you know,
my kids. And you know, my husband asks me periodically

(50:18):
if I'm still happy, and I tell them, yeah, I am.
I mean, like, why do you ask? And he says,
because you know, you gave everything up because of my career,
my path in life, and you give it all up
for the kids. And I said, no, I chose this.

(50:40):
I didn't give up anything. I decided this is what
I wanted to do, and I did it. And now
I'm finding out, hey, I'm going to do something else.
So I'm doing that. That's what I'm doing, and it's
very it's kind of hard to explain it to someone
who who's on the other side, you know, because I

(51:06):
tried explaining it to my husband. It's like, no, I didn't.
I didn't give up anything. I chose what I did
because I knew the importance of it was very high
for one and for another, this was something that I
really wanted to do. And I you know, everybody makes
fun of me about being a June cleverer person and everything,

(51:28):
But dudes, I have the wardrobe. Okay, I hear these
aprons when I cook, I have hostess aprons. Do you
all know what those are? Those are fancy little aprons
made out of chiffon with embroidery on it, so that
when you have people coming over, you put that on

(51:52):
instead of a real apron, but you're still the hostess
and it's fancy. It's a fancy apron. Okay, have those?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah. The only difference between Aggie and Jut and Kleaver
is their definition of a pearl necklace.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Oh wait, oh, oh dear, But you know it's just
for me. I just I cannot get past that. Whole
that a lot of young people that seem to think
that being a traditional wife, that being a stay at
home awk is something that you can only do if

(52:28):
you're wealthy. I'm like, no, it isn't. You just have
to live within the means. And if the beans are
too tight, you can have a part time job, you
can work from home, you can do something on Etsy,
you can you can sell your time for tutoring. You
could do all that. I did that too. I tutored,

(52:50):
you know, whenever I wanted some extra spending money or something,
I would I would tutor and it was fine, you know,
And eventually I just like toold to be tutoring for
money and I would just do it for the kids
and cul de sac and whatever. But it never ceases
to amaze me how it is that some people are

(53:12):
so locked into the whole double income thing that they
cannot conceive of just having one income in a family.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
You just gave me an idea. I don't know why
I've never thought about this before. I should. I should
find a website or something and sign up as a
history tutor.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
You should, you absolutely should. I And this is something
about our age group gen X and uh and the
Moomers too, that they have a lot of experience. They
have a lot of knowledge that is no longer being taught. Okay,
they're they're not teaching it in school at all. And

(53:48):
this is something that you can actually market yourself as.
You can actually tell people, Hey, since I have book
keeping experienced, I can teach you how to balance books.
I can teach you I understand that everything is done
electronically nowadays. I get that, but what if something happens.

(54:08):
It's like you always should keep a paper trail, you know.
Blah blah blah. This is how you you know, teaching
people how to do their taxes, teaching people how to
balance a checkbook. We used to be taught all of
that stuff when we were in high school. It's a
longer being taught. You can teach people about the differences
in cooking temperatures. You can teach people on how to

(54:29):
best how the best dress a chicken. And I don't
mean put a dress on it. I mean like pluck
it and get it ready for roasting. You know, because
for people who live out here in the you know,
the farming area that I do, most people will know
how to do that. You invite a city person here

(54:50):
and and you know, and you're like, yeah, I got
to go catch a chicken so you can have dinner.
They have absolutely no concept of that.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
They don't They're like, what you're chicken doesn't come in
a package? No, yeah around here, boy, But yeah, No.
It was funny because the first for the longest time,
we were doing meat chickens and egg chickens and everything else.
Out of here. We still do egg chickens some. I'm
gonna get into it a little heavier now, like greasy,
getting a little bigger. But I haven't done meat chickens

(55:19):
in a while because those are actually a lot of work.
I'm thinking about it again though, because there's just there's
no nutritional value from the damn store meat anymore.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
But yeah, you don't know what you're getting. And I
might not subscribe to everything that RFK Junior is doing
in the Department of Health and Human Services, but he
has done something that no other person has done, and
that is open our eyes to investigating what's out there.

(55:56):
You know, no longer taking anything for granted, no longer
taking the gutman's word for granted, no longer you know,
it has incentifized a lot of people to actually start
doing their own research. And I remember my Theolic when
she became a mom. She researched a lot about vaccines
and she popted not to vaccinate her child. This is

(56:19):
a she's a neuroscientist. Okay, I mean this woman is very,
very smart. And people attacked her for it, and she said,
I'm not telling you what to do. I'm telling you
what I feel is right for my kid. And she
did a lot of research. Nobody paid attention to her.
They just thought that she was being a witch, you know.
And here comes, you know, this new administration, and people

(56:44):
are now starting to ask questions. And I think that's
a good thing. I really do. I've since given up
on buying bread at the store. I bake my own bread,
I make my own butter. I buy eggs from my girlfriend.
She raises chickens. And now we're talking about having where
a thing whereby I buy ten chickens. She raises them

(57:07):
and then prepares them at the end of the year
for me to put in the freezer. And I told her,
I said, I would be more than happy to help pluck.
I would be more than happy to prepare it. And
all that stuff. Just let me know what to come.
She's like, you know how to do that? It's like, yeah,
I've known since I was five because my grandmother would
would tell us to do it without you know. And

(57:27):
and of course she's like the she's like the government
when it comes to Texas. I know how to do it,
and you need to know how to do it, but
I'm not going to tell you. And if you do
it wrong, I'm yelling at you. You know that kind
of thing. So we have to watch her very very
closely growing up because she would throw us to the
wolves with this kind of stuff. And yeah, so I

(57:48):
learned how to dress a chicken. I've learned how to
stick a pig, and I've learned how to get it
ready for you know, to be put on a on
a roast, on a spit and do that. So you know,
this is stuff that I still know. But I just
I cannot see a city person coming to my house
and me saying, yeah, I gotta go catch chicken so

(58:10):
we can have dinner. I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I've done. I've done it a couple of times just
for fun, when John and everybody was still living here
and being like, hey, well, hey John, go catch your
chicken so we can get ready to do dinner with
one of my nieces here. And they'd be like, you're
gonna go do what now? We told you we were
having fried chicken for dinner. I told you it was
gonna be freed.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
Yes. Sorry, I do churn my own butter. But you know,
it amazes me.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
That giggy, giggy.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
This is stuff that I decided to learn because the
prices on butter went up so hot that it was
cost prohibitive. It was actually cheaper for me to buy
heavy whipping cream from the from the UH creamery down
the road from me, and actually reserved heavy whipping cream

(59:10):
to make with cream and reserve some to make butter.
And then the leftover is buttermilk that I would culture
and then used to be to make bake goods. I mean,
it's like h and all of this information. I mean,
y'all have a phone, y'all have internet. You can find this.
It is easy. It's out there. If I can do

(59:31):
any of this stuff, y'all can do it too. It's
you know, it's it's it's easy. And a lot of
people are like, I just can't believe that you make
you up. Butter, I'm like, I'm not Land of Lakes. Okay,
it's it does stop take rocket science. But everybody is

(59:52):
like so impressed, and I'm like, seriously, it's it's not
that impressive, but that is. But you know, but these
are steps that I took living out here so far
removed from, you know, larger cities where you kind of
got used to being able to get a bunch of stuff.
I mean, I was on the phone with one of

(01:00:13):
my girlfriends, she lives in Boston, and she was asking me.
The first question. She asked me, how do you manage
do you have a good supermarket there, a good grocery store?
I mean, for her, it's all about food, right, And
I said, believe it or not, it's actually really good.
But for that very specific higher end stuff like if

(01:00:36):
I needed truffles or something like that, I actually have
to go to Dallas and get that. And yes, I
have a cooler in the back of my car. I
go over there, I buy a bag of ice when
I'm there, and I put all that stuff in there
so that I can just transport it home. And it
is it's an extra step, but you know, I still
enjoyed going to a big city, just not Dallas. I

(01:01:00):
don't care for now. That's if I lot of troubles
I have to go over there because I haven't found
them in Tyler. But you know that's for me that
it's part of the traditional role of a homesteader is
the whole, you know, farm living, the whole, the pigs,

(01:01:21):
the cows, the chickens, the ducks, all that. That is
the homestead of traditional wife. And you don't have to
be that obviously. They're like, there's different, Like I said,
there's different kinds. One of the ones that that really
tripped me up, I was I was looking up some
of the traditional roles for a traditional wife and one

(01:01:44):
of them was the devout traditional wife. And I was like, wait,
you could be devout and not adhere to the traditional
role of being a wife. You know, I know a
lot of women who are devout who are not traditional,

(01:02:04):
you know, in any sense of the word. And I
was like, why are you putting that as one of
the traditional wife roles? Because you can be devout in
your religion, you can be devout in your spirituality the
same as a guy. That could be equal, and it
does not depend on a gender role whatsoever. So I

(01:02:28):
thought it was kind of weird that they put that
in that list. But you know, like I said, the
others were like, you know, the classic which is like
the fifties traditional wife, the farm traditional wife, the hunter
and gatherer traditional wife, which was kind of weird for me.

(01:02:49):
I understood what they were saying. But in a traditional
hunter gathering society, the women gathered, the men hunted, and
you know that they would meet back at their camp
and whatever. But yeah, so I do the point that
we're trying to make that it was kind of weird,
but you know, it's just I see it a lot

(01:03:09):
from the liberals that being a traditional wife is a
form of servitude. It's a form of being indentured servant
to your spouse. And I was like, I don't think
that that is correct. I've never seen it that way.

(01:03:33):
I don't know why they would think that that would
be applicable, but I guess because you if you do
stay at home, it's only a one income household. But
like I said, you can stay at home and have
a non traditional income stream that you're managing by something
by some other means, like you know, you're selling your

(01:03:55):
handmade stuff on Etsy. You are providing, you know, online
courses for somebody. You are, you know, being an online editor,
you know that kind of stuff. I mean, our beloved
Brad works from home, so you know that's a different

(01:04:17):
traditional role, but his income is he works from home,
so you know, it's just for me. I just I
find it really interesting that the left is actually attacking
this because it's on the rise again, because the younger
generation are thinking, you know, this isn't a bad idea,

(01:04:40):
staying home and taking care of the kids and making
sure that the kids are learning the things they should
be learning, especially in the fact that right now, education
in public schools is demanding a lot of LGBTQIA stuff.
It's demanding a lot of gender bending stuff. It's demanding
a lot of stuff that most parents are saying, Hey,

(01:05:03):
not my kid, that's too young. He needs to wait
until he's like a sophomore or junior in high school
before he learns about this stuff, you know, and the
public education system is saying, no, he needs to learn
it right now in pre K.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah, he's going to learn it all in all right now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
But no.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
I think that's another reason why you're starting to have
the rise of the stay at home parenting thing because
they're figuring out I mean, think about this from another perspective,
because this was a decision that my second wife and
I made because most of my work was done at
night and she worked during the day. Now, there were
things that I needed to do during the day, but
I could do most of those from home because it
was keeping up with billing and all those things, and
I had a computer that I could do that with.

(01:05:42):
We still had an office, so if I had to
go in and do meetings, I could do that. And
I set up one of the offices as a playroom
for my kids, and I'm like, put the oldest in
there with the other two and like, hey, you go
hang out with your brothers and brother and your sister
and make sure they don't burn the place down while
I go have this meeting real quick. But I did
a lot of my work from home, and we did
the math, and we were saving I mean, at that

(01:06:03):
time we had the three kids, she had the one
and I had the two. For my first marriage, before
we had John, we were saving about thirteen hundred dollars
a month in daycare expenses. That was that was that
was her whole paycheck. So a lot of these people
that are trying to raise a family and have kids
too and also trying to work, the majority of that

(01:06:25):
second income is going to pay for daycare, when in reality,
if you stopped and thought about it for a second,
because most of the time, mama ex who's working forty
hours a week sometimes fifty, does all the cooking, all
the cleaning, and all the above. I mean, if you're
lucky you have a husband that does try to split
some of the duties with you, that's so kind of rare.
I always try to do the one thing I hate
to do was laundry. I still hate doing laundry. I'm

(01:06:46):
looking at something I was looking at some before I
started doing the show, and I'm like, yeah, I'll do
it tomorrow because I hate laundry. But I started thinking
about that and with all the different ways there are
to make money now, I mean, hell, you go do
like Uber, uber eats and Uber deliveries for a couple
hours a day here and there when you've got an
extra spare a few minutes, and you could still basically

(01:07:09):
make the nearly the same amount of money that you
were actually getting to keep that you weren't spending on
daycare and still be home with your kids. And that's
the part of this that has never made sense to me.
When it's getting to the point where it takes almost
the entire second paycheck to make sure your kids are
taking care of while you're at work, what the hell
is the point in doing? What the hell's the point
in both of you working when in reality you could

(01:07:30):
just you know, do some deliveries here and there, sign
up on five or all these other things that you
can do to make money. I mean, hell, I've been
working from home now for a year and a half.
Things aren't perfect. Some months things are really really tight,
but other months I'm like, ooh, this worked out better
than I thought, but it's still It's made it possible
for me to make sure that Gracie's been able to

(01:07:50):
get back and forth to school for this year without
having to rely on other people. And it's allowed me
to be, you know, in and active in my granddaughter's
life and talking to her as she goes to school
and from school and after school because I'm always here.
These are the things that matter, These are the things
that shouldn't matter, And in reality, even if you can't homeschool,
if you are there to help your kids with their

(01:08:12):
homework and talk your kids through their homework and talk
to them about some of the crazy things that their
teachers may or may not be saying and or in
some cases doing to them, you're going to make their
lives that much better and that much richer. And that's
what the government has stolen from us with this propaganda
campaign of you don't have to be there to take

(01:08:32):
care of your kids, because you know what, the government's
not going to do it for you. They've proven this.
They don't give a shit about your kids. They only
give a shit about the propaganda they can feed your kids.
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
Yeah. I remember one of the things that I learned
in high school is how once the Nazis rose to power,
one of the first things that they did was basically
installed daycares, because, as they said, if you're going to
you know, if you are a patriot, a too patriot

(01:09:08):
to the women, then you should go to work because
your your husband is working too, and you can leave
your child at bay care. And so that was kind
of forced upon them, and that was one of the
reasons how the government was able to raise the kids,

(01:09:30):
you know, to be what they are. I mean, look
at the Mao's Mao's youth. It's the same concept. And
that's what we have been fighting as parents over here
because it has gotten that bad thing. Wise, you know,
a lot of parents were like, well, my government's a
good government. The government wouldn't do anything bad to my kids.

(01:09:52):
They honestly felt the head start program was good. They
honestly felt the pre K was good. You know that
all of that was sold as a good program. And
for some parents, I could understand what they would actually
go ahead with that that would and and I don't,
you know, I don't I don't blame them for that

(01:10:13):
at all. But the thing is, it was it was
the camel's nose in the tent, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
No exactly, And that's the thing. We started falling into
some of the same traps here. And I don't really
understand why it took people so long to start waking
up from what we had been lulled into, other than
the fact that I mean, unfortunately, we live in a
world of propaganda. Nobody wants to talk to you about this,

(01:10:42):
but all the ads you see every day, those are propaganda,
you know, who actually inspired the American idea of breakfast.
A world renowned Propagandasteho has taught everything he knows by
gebels m because media media is nothing but propaganda. It
always has been. That's the thing. Nobody wants to tell you.
And this used to be embraced. I remember reading about

(01:11:05):
it in history when the printing press became a thing
and everybody started having access to a printing press. Every
little town had three, four and five different papers, and
they just put out the stories based on their particular slant,
and everybody either read the one they didn't and didn't
read the ones they didn't want to. And then all
of a sudden, at some point along the way, it became, no,
we have to be neutral. They've never been neutral. I mean,

(01:11:26):
I think Kronkite was probably the closest thing to a
neutral reporter that I've ever heard of in my lifetime,
and the rest of them have all had their own
little slants, and even he did to a point, but
he said, I mean my dad thought, but one of
those things though. I mean, you know, it's like with
Trump signing the EO about PBS and NPR and everybody

(01:11:48):
having a fit, you know, the government funding PBS made
sense in the beginning because there were three channels, so
the government funding PBS gave you access to twenty five
percent more content. They're literally thousands of channels and thousands
of streams. As of May second, twenty twenty five, there
are four million registered podcasts. Those are just the ones

(01:12:09):
that are registered, So imagine all the little ones that
almost nobody knows about that are also floating around out
there too, very which means we have an abundance of information,
so we don't need the government picking winners and losers. Again.
The only reason I bring this up before we get
into favorite TV Moms is because I've been being trolled
all day because of our call letters, because oh yeah,

(01:12:32):
since we are a digital network, we are allowed to
license call letters that may already be being used by
the FCC at other places. Well. Kl are In I
believe out of San Antonio is a PBS network, and
they have a radio and a TV broadcast, and I
think there's even a klr in somewhere in California because
I've found them before too, but I think it's also
PBS related. So everybody's been like, ha ha, you're a
Trump supporter, and Donald Trump just defunded you. I'm like, no,

(01:12:54):
Donald Trump may have just made sure I'm the only
KLR in left standing, So thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
Yeah, you know, I lived in the San Antonio area
and I can tell you with high confidence most people
have not even heard of kaylor and down there. That
is how little traction the PBS station got. Seriously, I'm
not even joking. I lived there and I can tell

(01:13:20):
you Channel nine most people just skipped right over it.
They just didn't care. And when the telethon was on,
oh forget it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Nonund I mean, I liked watching PBS when I was
a kid, but that's because they had the weird British
sci fi, which turned me on a doctor who I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
I gotta say, you know, Red Dwarf was one of
my favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Album was a little too sardonic for me, so it
took it. Now I'm kind of into it now. I'm
kind of a late bloomer when it comes to humor.
I know what I like and it takes me forever
to get into things that I don't. But eventually, if
I subject myself to it enough, I start grasping the
humor from it. Like Blazing Saddle was never something I
watched when I was younger. I watched it a few
years ago and I laughed my ass off my dad.

(01:14:06):
My dad and I were arguing the other day because
I brought We were talking about Star Wars for some reason,
and I mentioned that I had just watched Baseballs the
other night, and he's like, yeah, I tried to turn
that on the other day. He's like, that movie's fucking retarded. Like,
first of all, that you yell at me for using
that word, and second of all, blasphemy. Actually believe it

(01:14:28):
or not. I am still watching the current Doctor Who.
I don't like it as much. It's weird, but I
am that the yeah, yeah, Magobla whereever the hell his
name is, yeah, And so I mean I do watch it.
I usually I'll kind of wait for a few episodes
to kick up, and then when I have a few,

(01:14:49):
when I have some time with nothing else to do,
nothing else to watch, then I'll kick it on and
kind of watch it through while I'm doing other stuff.
Because I do still support the idea of Doctor Who.
I don't like what they've done with it. But that's
like I said, I still watch all the Star Wars crap.
Even though the Star Wars crap sucks. The only thing
that I haven't ever finished watching was when they started
breaking out with the Lesbian Space, which is when they

(01:15:11):
did that when I was done with that one. But
I still try to support it because I love the
concepts of it, and I do like the fact that
it seems like maybe in some ways, Disney is starting
to turn away from some of that stuff because they
keep losing money. And I think it's finally getting through
to them because they've brought Daredevil back and it actually
doesn't suck.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
M interesting, that's kind of maybe eye opening. Maybe that's
the start of a reversal of fortune. All Right, So
I guess we should talk about our favorite TV moms.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Yeah. I couldn't decide, so I broke mine down by decade.

Speaker 6 (01:15:52):
I have four. I have four, and we all know
who number one is going to be, So I'm starting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
From the I have like eight, so go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Well, okay, so I suggested three people and anaunorable mention
and I stuck to it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
But who's usually the one that over prepares for these things?
Because it's not me?

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
It's me for what? Or was I stuck to it. Okay,
all right, So my number four I guess would be
Laura Petrie from The Dick Van Dyk Show, played by
Mary Tyler Moore. She was a former USO dancer. She

(01:16:38):
meets Rob and Mary's him and becomes a stay at
home mom. They have a son, and as I don't
know if everybody remembers, but Van Dyke played a play
Rob Petrie, who was a writer for a TV show,
and it was funny to see the way they played

(01:17:00):
off of each other and how she as a stay
at home mom was managing the household, you know. And
it was you know, because it was something that was
kind of new to see on TV, to see somebody
that was kind of very vibrant, very hip, not as
classic as you know, the fifties traditional, you know, in

(01:17:24):
the poodle skirt and all that stuff. You're seeing her
in the computer pants and the nice little tops and
her hair, the little Bufont hair do is really the flip,
the hair flip and everything. So it was kind of neat.
It was refreshing to see and she was obviously she
was a great foil to Dick Van Dyke. That was

(01:17:44):
a really good show and I cannot recommend it enough.
It's still holds up to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Yeah. It was funny because when Dick van Dyke did
like a three week stinth on Days of Our Lives,
they brought the Dick van Dyke Show back on Peacock
and I hadn't washed it forever. And the first time
I was watching this family that you know, stay stay
at home mom, working husband, working in the TV industry,
and every time you turn around, he's like, well, before
we do that, I have to talk to the accountant.

(01:18:11):
I'm like, so, you're telling me middle class families used
to be able to afford an accountant. But that's exactly
what I'm talking about us that our money used to
be worth so much more until we decided to start
getting creative with it. And I think that's one of
the things that Trump is trying to undo, is the

(01:18:31):
devaluation of our dollar. It's gonna be painful for a
little bit, but I think it might actually work all right. So,
just to be fair, I did actually stick to four
but instead of four four Housewives, I chose four decades.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
So I'm gonna start.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
So I'm gonna start with the eighties first one out
of the eighties has to be clear Huxtable, because that
was everybody's TV mom back then. Yeah, and she was
iconic for so many different reasons. She was the quintessential
mom back then. She really was somebody that, at least
portrayed on TV, was able to bring home the bacon,
frieda up of the pan, do all those things, but

(01:19:05):
it was still you know, she was able to be
soft and everything else. So I had a very dysfunctional
family when I was a kid, so the Cosbys kind
of became my role model as far as what I
wanted parents to be because mine weren't that for the
longest time. My dad eventually found his way, my mom
did not. So my dad and I have a pretty
close relationship right now. My mom and I haven't talked

(01:19:26):
in over a decade. But TV was kind of how
I pieced together how parents should behave for good, badter indifference,
and the Huxtable family was one of the ways that
I did that. The other one for the eighties for
me has to be Roseanne because while my mom was

(01:19:47):
never much of Susie homemaker, her and Roseanne had a
lot in common and that and it's funny because that
was when she was married to my first stepdad, and
we used to watch that show together and every time
I turn around, he would look at her and say,
this is you to a fucking tea, And everybody was
just kind of lot. But yeah, I mean again, iconic
middle class kind of family showed showed more of the struggling,

(01:20:10):
which they never really used to do on TV, because again,
at least as far as we know, back in the
fifties and sixties, they didn't really struggle as much as
they did in the late eighties early nineties, So that
became more of a thing. And the funniest thing for
me was one of the scenes where Dan and Roseanne
are sitting down at the table trying to figure out
to pay bills, and she's like, we'll put this check
in this envelope and put this check in this envelope,

(01:20:31):
and by the time they figure out what they've done
and send it back, we'll have the money to pay
them both.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
I remember that episode I watched.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
I watched my mom do that same trick the year
before when we were still living in Oklahoma, not even.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
Getting my goodness, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
So that's one of the reasons why those resonated with me.
So see I still kept to the four. I'm just
doing decades.

Speaker 6 (01:20:56):
Okay, that's fair, that's fair. Actually, one show that did
show the struggles of the family life while still being
a good family show was Good Times. That was you know,
they lived in the projects.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Florida, Evans.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
She was she was on my list, right, I mean,
she was so great. I loved her, But that was
that was That's a good show that shows the struggles
that lower income you know, families had back in the seventies.
So okay, so let's see my number three. I gotta

(01:21:39):
go with Carol Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Nice. Yeah, she was on my seventies list too.

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
And you know, it's really funny because I was on
a thread i want to say, about a year a
year and a half ago, and we were talking about
Carol Brady and how watching that show you could see
how the fashions changed from you know, sixty five to
seventy three, you know that eight in that range, you know,
especially with the hair, thank you and so. But you

(01:22:10):
could see how I mean even even Mike's hair got
a pirm you know, so you could see that there
were you know, there were a lot of changes and
all that stuff. But what I had. But somebody asked
in the thread, what did she do for a living?
Everybody was quiet, and I actually pipped up. She was

(01:22:31):
a stay at home mom that volunteered a lot. And
they were like, she volunteered. I was like, yeah, you
don't remember. There were times that she would be coming
back from the school function. She would be coming back
from a meeting with the for a school thing, or this,
she was coming back from an auxiliary thing. I said,

(01:22:56):
y'all don't remember those things those and they were like, no, oh,
she really she was a stay at home mom. She
didn't have a job. They were really shocked. Years and
years that this show has been on TV and these
people were completely shocked to find out that she was
a stay at home all. And I was like, yeah,
she was a stay at home She would help Alice cook.

(01:23:18):
Don't don't remember that? And they were like, no, we
don't remember any of that. I mean, what did Carol do.
I'm like, well, she kept busy with volunteer work, and
she would actually do stuff around the house. I mean
we used to see her in the kitchen with Alice
all the time, preparing dinner and stuff like that. She
would actually prepare you know, coffee for her and for

(01:23:43):
Mike after dinner. She would, you know, she would. She
would be in the kitchen too, you know she would.
And everybody's like, yeah, but Alice was there. It's like, yeah,
Alice was there too, But that doesn't mean that Alice
didn't also cooking by herself. I mean Carol was there.
She was supervised and she was helping, she was doing stuff,
and they're like one of them was like, oh, yeah,

(01:24:04):
I seem to remember her the pork chops and apple
sauce episode. I said, yes, the pork chopson apple sauce episode.
But one of the things that I loved about Carol
was her nightgowns. She had the best nightgowns and we're
so awesome. She didn't have no, I have to take

(01:24:27):
it back, she didn't have the best nightgowns of any
TV show that actually belonged to Green Acres, Epica or
entire wardrobe I still want but but yeah, she came close.
Carol came close.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
So for the record, we're venerating Carol Brady, not Florence
Henderson because Florence Henderson. Yeah. Anyway, I do have my
honorable mention from the eighties decade, and I actually forgot
until somebody made mention of this in the chat. My
honorable mention for the eighties decade has to be, oh yeah, so.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
That she was a really good example because she worked
at the office and she worked at home. Yep, so
she was available to be at home.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
So and that's the thing there, even in the eighties,
there was like this hybrid thing where people were figuring
out how to do some work from home and still
be able to be in the office, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
So, oh no, I remember there was an episode where
she explained that she could have gone to work at
a very prestigious architectural film firm, and you know, her
husband could have gone to be a network executive, but
because they had children, they wanted to be closer and

(01:25:43):
wanted to be at home for the kids, which is
why they chose the paths that they took. He worked
for a PBS station locally and she ended up working
you know, independent freelancing work as an architect.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
I remember that, Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
That was a great episode.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
That's on Peacock by the way, if anybody has it,
I've actually been rewatching a little bit of it all right.
So for the seventies, you've already hit two of the
three that I had on my list because I couldn't
narrow that one out anymore. So we've already talked about
Florida Evans from Good Times. We've talked about Carol Rady
from The Brady Bunch. So the one that you haven't
brought up yet, which has to be the one for
me from the seventies, has to be Shirley Partridge otherwise
known as Shirley Jones from The Partridge Family, which one

(01:26:25):
ran from nineteen seventy to nineteen seventy four.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
So this was a little bit happy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Because she actually played a widow. So she was a
widowed single mom who led her five children in a
musical family band while maintaining a loving home. Her blend
of maternal care, professional ambition, and independence made her a
progressive figure for the nineteen seventies, appealing to audiences while
navigating changing family dynamics. She was resilient, very talented musically

(01:26:55):
and had a balance of authority as well as warmth.
And I have to admit in the seventies that probably
was one of my favorite shows to sit down and
watch because that song you just sang. Was always stuck
in my head.

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
So there's a guy that has an old school bus
in a town not not too far from here, and
he actually has it set up as a like a
like an extra room outside, but he painted it to
be like the partridge bus.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Oh Nice's yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
It's like it's like kind of his man cave type
of thing, and it's and he has it like right
so that when you drive by you can see it,
you know, and at the bottom it has little partridges.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
I've actually thought about doing that at some point, getting
the hold of an old bus and kind of turn
it in into like part of it, making it like
a studio, but then also having it to the point
where it can still move so I can actually go
to places and do like your motivents and stuff. And
I thought that would be kind of cool that that
that's on my list of things to try to get
done in the next couple of years, I think, because
there's been plenty of things. I've been like, dude, if
I could deck something out with the Kayla and logo

(01:28:04):
and just start pulling up the places and be like, hey,
do you mind if we do a remotiv in here. No, sure,
go ahead, Yeah, that way. That way everybody knows who
we are instead of nobody. That's the story for another day.
All right, So I think it's your turning in if
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
Okay, Well, my number two, as I told Kavin, was
Donna Reid. Donna Reid Show. I loved that show. She
was very traditional and she was very funny and I
that show. Believe, I've only seen it in Spanish. It

(01:28:41):
has been a very long time since I've watched the show,
but it used to air on one of the two
channels that we had growing up in Puerto Rico, and
it was for me, it was enchanting. It was so
cool to watch this show because she was she's she was.
She was a great mom, and my mom and I

(01:29:03):
would watch a show and Mom would be laughing in
on everything because some of them. A lot of it
translated well to Spanish. Be little not. There's one TV
show that trans all of the jokes translate really well
into Spanish. You're never going to guess what show that is,
which one ALF. I'm not even joking. Everything translates well

(01:29:26):
into Spanish. It was ALF was probably the biggest foreign
hit in Mexico and in the Caribbean. Because of that,
everything translated, and I when my dad told me, I
was like, yeah, I don't believe it. So I watched
in Spanish. I was like, oh my god, everything translates perfectly,

(01:29:48):
as good as that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Past was on camera together. The train wreck they were
behind the scenes is terrifying. Have you seen the stories?

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
Yes, I've seen. I've heard, and I'm like, I could
I couldn't. I couldn't. But yeah, that was all of
the jokes translated so well, and alf was so popular.
And I don't know why. Maybe it's because maybe I

(01:30:16):
maybe may keep this up. I don't know, but I
don't know anybody in my family that actually likes cats
in Puerto Rico, and most of my friends in Mexico
they don't like cats either.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
You ever noticed how Chinese restaurants and pounds are pretty
much right next to each other. So for me, I
think we're up to the decade of the sixties now
again there's been some overlap, which was one reason why
I said I only had eight because I actually had
three for the sixties. But you've covered two of the
three already. So Donna Reed. Interesting side note about that

(01:30:50):
show that is actually one of the longest I think
it may actually be the longest running show of its
type because that ran from fifty eight to sixty six,
beating out even the Leave It to Beaver, because that
was only fifty seven to sixty three, so that one
ran for eight seasons. Leave It de Beaver only ran
for six. Most of the ones that I'm seeing usually
ran for about five or six, so it may have

(01:31:12):
been one of the longest running shows for its type.
You've also already covered Laura Petrie played by Mary Tyler Moore,
so the only one remaining in my nineteen seventies list
which you have not brought up, which happens to be
one of my all time favorite shows to watch as
a kid. Next, High Dream of Genie, primarily because of
the outfit was Samantha Stevens played by Elizabeth Montgomery on

(01:31:34):
the WACHE.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
I was very close to actually adding her, but she
wasn't as conventional she wanted to be as opposed to be,
but she was a witch, so it was it was
more like being a traditional wife with something she aspired
to be, rather than being one and aspiring to be
a witch. You know what I mean. So that's why

(01:31:58):
I didn't include her. But yeah, totally, I would totally
be Samantha Stevens. Have you seen the furniture in that house?
I'm telling you I would totally be her.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Right, But yeah, no, I mean that's like I said,
she was gonna be my honorable mention of the three.
But she's the only one that you haven't touched on.
And again it's she did use magic sometimes, but she
was aspiring to try to be a traditional wife instead
of the whole witch thing, and that was half the fun.
Was the weird dynamic with her witchy family, who were like,

(01:32:29):
why didn't you just do this? Why don't you just
do that? She's like, but Darren wouldn't like it. And
the weirdest thing for me was when I was watching
the show when I was a kid, I didn't even
notice they swapped out the husband until like years later
when it finally occurred to me that these two people
were not the same.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
Well, they were both dicks, and they both liked dick.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
So an shots fired from Aggie that deserves one of thing.

Speaker 6 (01:32:56):
Although I will say this, Elizabeth Montgomery was a very
good friend to both and she supported them for the
Pride events every year, and one year when she was
she had been diagnosed, I believe with cancer at this point,
and she was nearing the end of her life. She

(01:33:17):
was there for I think it was Dick York. Dick
York was dying. He was already an oxygen and he
was he was dying from AIDS, I think. And they
asked her, I was like, why are you in this parade?
And she looked at him and said, because this is
my friend and I support him, I love him, and
I will be here for him as long as as

(01:33:39):
long as I'm able to. And I will never forget
that that she was such a kind person and so
loving as to even when she was ill, to be
there for somebody who needed her. So that has always
stuck with me, and that has always inspired me to
be that kind of person, you know. But yeah, I

(01:34:00):
know it was. It was a bad joke. I have
to say it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I'm just I'm just glad to see that, you know,
those those of us that are terrible, we're finally rubbing
off on you.

Speaker 6 (01:34:13):
But it was it was really weird, you know. Dick
York and Dick Sartin kind of looked alike. I thought
they were brothers. I really did. And then I said,
but why would two brothers have the same first name
and not the same last name. It's like they're not brothers.
But wow, it's kind of like the same thing with
Frasier and the guy that plays his brother. I always

(01:34:38):
thought were related, but they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
You would think because they have some of the same
facial structures. But that that's kind of That's like with
Bruce box Lightner. You said him, you put him next
to Kirk Douglas, and I could have I could have
sworn they were father and son, and I still have
my visions.

Speaker 6 (01:34:57):
No, it's true. I mean, and look at Carol Burnett
and Big Lawrence. Same thing, you know. And and that's
how Vicky Lawrence got the gig. She actually wrote to
Problenet saying, you know, we could pass the sisters and
you know, send her a photograph, and that's how she.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Got hired and family was born.

Speaker 6 (01:35:14):
So that yeah, anyway, so I guess we're up to
number one. We are, even though we're a little over
our time, obviously, obviously, and of course everybody should actually know,
and of course Max knows because he actually said June Cleaver.

(01:35:35):
She is my number one. I aspired to be her,
and everybody asked, you know, it was like, but we
saw her sometimes be you know, go outside, you know,
ask to borrow the car, and that would rankle people.
And I was like, y'all don't understand. Back then, it
was very rare to have two vehicles. It was just
one vehicle, and usually the one who worked outside of

(01:35:58):
the home would take the vehicle to go to work.
So if she's I said, so she's asking for the vehicle,
is that she's probably going grocery shopping and she knows
her husband's not gonna want to go, so she's saying,
I'm taking a car, you know, that kind of thing.
But but you know, she did a lot of the volunteering.
She was always involved with the school. She was always

(01:36:18):
involved with the neighborhood and all that stuff. And I
just I loved everything that she wore. There was a
period though, and I don't know if anybody ever noticed,
but there was a period where she was actually wearing
a ponytail. Did you ever notice that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
I don't think I've ever seen an episode where her
wearing a ponytails.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
But yeah, there were a couple of episodes because she
was letting her hair grow long, but it wasn't long
enough to tease and make into the flip and all
that stuff, and so thus the ponytail. And I was like,
I've never seen ohere the phoney till. That's so weird.
That is that blows my mind. But you know, and
it was. It was really cool because when they did

(01:37:04):
the the revival of Liba to be Beaver, which was done,
I believe, on the Disney Channel when it was first
starting off. This was back in the eighties. You know,
Wally had married Mary Ellen whatever her name was, and
he had you know, he was still married to her.

(01:37:25):
They had kids and everything, and the Beaver theaterre was
actually divorced and had two kids, and so he came
back home to live with his mother and there was
you know, there was that family dynamic that he had
to work through again because he was under his mother's roof,

(01:37:47):
you know, and she was still very traditional and he
helped bring her into the eighties, you know, when he
moved in and she ended up going back to college.
She actually rushed a sority, you know, and everything she did,
all of the things that she had missed out when
she was raising her kids. But for me, you know,

(01:38:10):
and that's something that I you know, I thought long
and hard about should I go back to college, and
I was like, yeah, no, I don't think so in
this day and age, with the rock debts in there,
No I'd rather not. But you know, that was for
me growing up. When I first got here there, the

(01:38:32):
show was on in the afternoon, so we watched it
after school, and it would you know, after I learned English,
and that would help me with my English as well.
And I loved it. I loved the way she looked.
I loved that she was you know, she had a
good relationship with her husband. I loved all of that

(01:38:53):
about her. And I loved the fact that she wore
the petticoats and the skirts and she were an apron
and she had no problem you know with the whole
dinner situation and lunch and this and that. It was
just it was great for me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
It was awesome, pretty cool, pretty cool, all right. So
I just realized I forgot my honorable mention from the
eighties decade. That has to go to Edith Bunker our
seventies decades, not age. Yes, and as far as for
my final ones, we are now and of course the
decade of the fifties you've touched on the most notable.

(01:39:31):
But there is another one, and that was Margaret Anderson,
who plays in Father's Now The Father Knows Best, which
ran from four to sixty. Margaret was the heart of
the Anderson family. She balanced her role as a homemaker
with emotional intelligence. She provided stability for her husband Jim
and their three children, Betty, Bud and Kathy, often mediating

(01:39:53):
conflicts with grace and portrayed and portrayals her that reinforced
the nineteen fifties ideal of a supportive, domestically focused mome.
And as far as June Cleaver, I will say this,
I think the people that came up with the title
of the show specifically did it to sneak some things
past the censors, because when you become an adult or

(01:40:13):
you were a little rough on the beaver, last night
takes on an entirely different meaning.

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
You know who, you know who we forgot to mention?

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
Who did we forget him?

Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Harriet Nelson?

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Ah, good point.

Speaker 6 (01:40:29):
Yeah, The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. That was actually
a really good show and a very good example of
a traditional traditional wife. But anyway, but we are out
of time. We've been out of time for the last
what eleven minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Well, I need like thirty more seconds because I have it.
I have a completely different Okay, go ahead, it's all
yours best animated traditional homewives tied between the Flintstones and
the jetsonens.

Speaker 6 (01:41:01):
Hm, hmmm, that was it's the same woman.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Well here's here's an interesting fan theory about the Flintstones,
and the Flintstones are not actually the prehistoric family that
we know that we that we're thinking of. They're actually
they're actually they take place after the Jetsons, not before,
because how else would they know about Christmas and the
other things that they talk about since that hasn't technically happened.

Speaker 6 (01:41:29):
Oh boy, that is a rabbit hole. I do not
want to go there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
I just I just since we're about to be done
for the night, I just want to throw that, throw
that to the audience. So they start frantically YouTube searching,
and damn it, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
Dad, Now I have to know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
What can I say except you're welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:41:53):
Okay, come on that note, I guess we should wrap up.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
I was gonna say we should we should? So where
can folks find you more of your magnificence to steal
part of bradline.

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
Yeah, well you can find me at Aguie Riken and
at Agie the barkeep. Those are over on x You
can find me a thirty pm Eastern Tuesday nights doing
the cocktail at which with the aforementioned Everswall Brad Slager
eight thirty pm Eastern Friday nights doing he said, she said,
with the awesome you yes, yes, awesome, rowdy rowdy, awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Baby, not awesome, Okay, you going whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:42:35):
The second Wednesday of every month, the guys get together
for Toxic Masculinity at eight pm Eastern and that's Rick
you already g and Andrew and I bring the drink
of the evening and we host to pay the month
and last to not least next month.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Starting next month, she'll be bringing freshly churned butter if
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:43:01):
Oh, I'm not gonna let let's go. And last, but
not least, Jeff and I do spirited books on the
first Monday of every month at eight thirty pm Eastern,
also known as Aggie Time. And stay tuned for that
because that is coming up this coming Monday a thirty
pm Eastern, I will repeat agy time and what if

(01:43:21):
I do? Where canos find you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
It's easier to not find me. It's a trap. Don't
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(01:43:44):
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(01:44:05):
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(01:44:27):
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(01:44:48):
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(01:45:09):
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(01:45:29):
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(01:46:11):
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