06-27-25 HS/SS More Fun W/ A.I But For Whom?

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am joined with the very awesome rowdy Rick. How are
you doing tonight?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Awesome? Where? Who what I said?

Speaker 11 (05:35):
What I said?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm doing all right. I'm still fighting with an electrical
issue around here, and it's driving me notes and I'm
probably gonna be about thousands of dollars by the time
I figure it out. But I'll get it figured out eventually.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
If anyway with your array or is it like from
the electric company to the house.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, this is something inside the house. Ah, I have
something grounding out in my panel and I can't trace it.
And now it seems like it's spreading because outlets that
weren't affected by it before or affected by it now.
And I'm like, okay, so this is gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So you're saying you have gremlins, possible poltergeist.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Possibly, I will not be. I will be not going
towards the light, Caroline.

Speaker 11 (06:25):
I can see that happening.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Maybe hopefully not, hopefully not.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
But yeah, who knows, you know, I mean, we do
scary shows here for a couple of weeks, so maybe
I've stirred something up. Who knows. Fun times.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, last time I had electrical issues, I lived in
a house that was built in nineteen forty eight, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, that's fine. This one's not that old. This one
was built in the eighties. I mean, I guess now
it kind of is but it wasn't when.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
It Yeah, my parents' house was built in Haiti, and
it does have a few gremlins. I admit I had
to deal with some of them when I was down there.
So but nothing aspect what you're describing. Thank goodness.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Sure, just rub it in.

Speaker 11 (07:13):
Go ahead, Sorry, laugh at my pain.

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See, I know I missed you for a reason.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well I'm a little sorry.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Even more I get it. It's so good.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, aside the electrical issues, how has it been going
around here?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's going still busy. I've been having insomnia for about
the last three weeks. I finally seemed to have ended
the last couple of nights, and all I want to
do is sleep, and I'm trying to make myself not
do that so I don't wind up having insomnia again.
That's fun.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well maybe it was chattypt like Calvin said, good Big
Custer saw me. I'm not gonna lie. This has kept
me awake at night, and I you know how people are.
They start thinking of something. You know the meme where
the brain is talking to you and you tell the
brain you want to go to sleep, and then the
brain says something and then you're wide awake.

Speaker 11 (08:17):
Yeah, that happens, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Every night, and but of late it has the technology
side of life has been keeping me awake at night,
and I'm worried that I'm just being a cantankerous old
person by being worried. No, you're not, but you know

(08:42):
the but the issue is there when you have nieces
and nephews that can navigate all sorts of things technologically,
and you're like, can I possibly get my email today? Thing?
And you know, I start to worry that maybe I
haven't kept up with the times. And then I start thinking,
at least I can write cursive. Yeah right, you know,

(09:06):
I tell that to myself.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
That'll be the language we use control of the nurses.
One of these days, when we all wind up in
nursing home together, we'll be passing notes in cursive because
they can't read them. Yeah. I have a feeling you
might be right, Michael. I think Grock may have done it.

Speaker 11 (09:26):
Yeah, it's possible.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I I'm not a big fan of g R Okay,
here on this on this platform, I'm not a big fan.
I know it can be done for fun and everything,
but it just it doesn't seem as complete when you
ask it some questions or when you ask them to

(09:50):
extrapolate certain things. And we all know that already has
broken grock.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Really he has breaking chat GBT I GPT.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, but that that that has been the culmination, and
that's that's one of the things that made me think
about chat GPT. That and the MIT study that that
has been floating around both on x and several other
social media sites. And I just I don't want to

(10:21):
say that it's because I'm old. I want to say
it's because I worry about having being somebody that basically
learned to study human cultures and the developments and the
downfalls and how they progress and regress and fall in

(10:41):
all those things. I see so many patterns that are
being copied yet again, but one thing that a lot
of people did not expect those patterns to be copied
with was technology. You always expect technology to actually move forward,
to progress, to actually improve your life, improve your state

(11:04):
of well being, improve your mental capacities. You know that
kind of you expect that from technology, but actually you
see the patterns where that's not the case. And you know,
I was in a conversation with my brother when I
was down, when I was away from from X for

(11:26):
a while, and that was one of the conversations that yeah,
he really likes it. He uses CHANGPT for his work,
but his work is mostly commercial, so it does not
require writing essays or doing anything like that. But it
is a creative work that he does. He's a landscape architect,

(11:50):
so creativity is something that is needed. And you know,
he says that, you know, it really helps when you know,
putting you know, stuff together and designing this or you know,
looking up what goes well with that and all that stuff.
And I said, well, can you do it without chat GBT?

(12:13):
And I was teasing at the time, and he looked
at me and said, well, of course I can. I said, okay,
let's why don't you do it on my backyard because
I've been after him for almost a decade to do
my backyard. Okay, any backyard there wherever I live, please
do my backyard. He's like, yeah, I'm not doing that
because you know, he's commercial, not residential. But I said, okay,

(12:36):
let's try doing something, you know, and he actually sat
there and he was like, wow, wait a minute, I
used to do this. Hold up, give me give me
a second. And he actually had to force himself to
think the way he used to do before he started
using AI to help him with his work. And I said,

(12:58):
that's kind of odd that you can't just bring that
forth like the way.

Speaker 11 (13:05):
You used to.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I mean, seriously, he would sit there and he would
do beautiful sketches just looking at somebody's yard and saying, yeah,
you could do this, you know whatever, and he would
just sit there and do them. And this time he
actually had to force himself to think. He had to
dredge that up. And that kind of scared me.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
You know what I mean, Yeah, no, I get it,
but yeah, no, all of this is scary because I
mean it's like even some of the scientific stuff since
AI has burst onto the scenes has just kind of exploded.
Like there are all kinds of articles now about and
granted is not now the articles the headlines are always misleading,

(13:49):
Like I read one the other day that was like
lab created black hole. It actually just as Hawking would
have expected it too, So I first of all, I
freaked out. I was like, wait, so artificially creating black holes? Now?
I know of a science fictional race that used to
do that, and they used them to power their starships.
So I read the article, and then of course it
was well, no, what they did was they created certain

(14:11):
particles that are present in black holes and mimic and
saw that those would mimic the same behaviors as they
would expect. So we're not exactly apparently creating artificial black
holes yet, but some of the stuff that's just like,
you know, like, and I've talked about this before too.
With the new show that's on CBS Watson. They there

(14:32):
was one episode where they were just thrown around Crisper
technology like it was an everyday thing, like they were.
They used it in the show to edit out sickle
cell disease from a patient.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
What.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, they rewrote their genetic code and basically reinserted the
code and it all the cells that came after came
from that code and didn't have sickle cell disease anymore.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
What I.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Feel like, David Tennant and when he was the doctor,
that's my face right now.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I could have swore we had talked about this before.
Maybe it was just me and Homistead of talked about
it before, but.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, I think I think we've talked about it on JUCKS.

Speaker 11 (15:21):
I think maybe it freaked me.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Out because I'm like all of a sudden, you know,
technology that is being used to edit human genome is
just being talked about in casual conversation on the TV
shows also, and then they use it. I mean, granted,
it's in the TV show and they're like, yeah, this
hasn't been approved by the FDA or anything, and he's like, yeah,

(15:43):
we'll do it anyway, And next thing I know, they're
like editing to somebody's DNA using crisper. I'm like, I
feel I feel old. I was about I was about
to yel U for calling yourself old because we all
know better. But I feel mentally old because it's like,
suddenly technology is leaving me behind. And technology was one

(16:04):
of the things that I always used to love to
keep up with, and I hate the fact that I
feel like it's leaving me because I was always the
sci fi nerd, the electronics nerd, the geek that figured
everything out. Hello. I took this the stereo my parents
gave me when I was seven. I took it apart
and put it back together when I was eight, partly
because my dad told me if I didn't even gonna

(16:24):
kill me. But I still figured it out.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's just, you know, for me, that's kind of that's
a little bit alarming because they're trying to make it
a thing. They're trying to make fetch happen. So what
you do is you put it in a TV show
and people watch that TV show and think, oh, they
took that from reality and put it in a TV show,
And now you think that this whole genome reconstruction or

(16:55):
the recoding of the human genome is possible and standard
and can't be done.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
And I'm like, Okay, the problem is could but they
have been. We know this now because of COVID. COVID
has it synthetic spike protein. That means they were monkeying
with its DNA. We also have known since the nineties
the cloning is at least plausible. Anybody remember the sheep

(17:22):
they cloned that nobody talks about. That's funny how it's
funny how nobody talks about that anymore. Because if they
could do that in the nineties, imagine what they're probably
doing right now.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, i mean, look at the mammoth meatball. I'm like,
who's going to eat that? You just wanted to do
it because you could, and then when it was offered
to people, to eat people turn it down rightfully, So
we are not equipped to digest mammoth feet at this point.
We have progressed from that point. And this is what

(17:54):
I tried telling everybody that's on a paleo diet. I'm like,
that's not palio. A true palaeo diet would kill you. Okay,
you are not equipped to digest anything that we were
eating as hunters and gatherers, you know, thousands and thousands
of years ago, and even the hunters are and gatherers
of today are not equipped to eat what their hunt,

(18:16):
what their ancestors did. So it's not a it's not
because we're not hunting and gathering. It's because what we
hunted and gathered is no longer around, and our bodies
had to adapt to what is around. I don't know
how else to explain it, but you know, that is
called That is a progression, you know, and it happens

(18:36):
what we as we progress in our humanity. I guess like,
but I'm like, you know, and you're right, we did
Dolly in several decades ago.

Speaker 11 (18:56):
Gee, what's been going on since then?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Lots of stuff, But it's like, there is a there's
a there's a certain amount of stagnation as well. And
I'm not sure if this stagnation is due to the
fact that people are no longer very creative when it
comes to technology or advancements in medicine and other sciences,

(19:21):
or because we have advanced and we're not ready to
tell people yet. It could be one or the other
or both. But as far as chat GPT goes, I
do not like it at all. To me, it just
it is sapping the soul of humanity. The actual that

(19:44):
creative mechanism that we have within us is being killed
by things like AI and chat to BT and those
things that you can just turn in. And MIT conducted
a study on this, and I was really the study
and I was just like, you've got to be kidding me.
I think, for the honest to god, I thought that

(20:05):
they were exaggerating because the numbers were that bad. You
had some serious I mean it was it was so weird.
You had the people okay. Part of the I gotta

(20:27):
calm down. And part of the study they found that
eighty three eighty three percent of those who used chat
GBT to write couldn't remember what they wrote. So just
just a few minutes later they could not remember what
they wrote on chat tobt at all, And I'm like,

(20:48):
how do you forget that? Because you're literally telling chat
tobet to write something for you, so you should know
the basis and you read it and everything. But they
just they couldn't remember it. They were like completely blanking
out on this, you know. Compare that to people who

(21:09):
actually wrote by hand, wrote it down themselves or used
you know, Google to do the research or whatever. Only
eleven percent of those people actually forgot, so it's a
very big I mean, the cancel was really wide, and
I was just like, I can't believe that people forgot.

(21:30):
I cannot believe. I can't believe eighty three percent. For god,
you know, there was you know, they did brain scans
on these subjects, on the people, and they freaked out
because some of these neural connections just collapsed completely. And

(21:51):
I know that a lot of people make fun of
me because I can literally turn my brain off, like
I'll be like, you know, looking at something, and then
I just completely shut down. I'm like, I don't want
to think, and I have that ability, and maybe it's simplistic,
but I can't. I can't just sit there and not
think about anything. My mind goes completely blank. Make the

(22:12):
jokes now, people, because I know it's it's it's right there,
the low hanging fruit is right there. But for that's
something that I developed over time. I learned how to
do that. I it wasn't something that I naturally had
the ability to do. That said, I've had EEG's done.

(22:36):
When I'm like not thinking or anything, you know, but
my way brainways are still active. They're just not you know,
doing the connections from jumping from one point to the other,
but they're still active. These show that there was a
collapse and then in the actual neural connections, and that

(22:57):
should alarm people because your brain needs to be engaged
all the time. That is one of the reasons that
you know, when back in the turn of the century
it was very important they always stress reading, writing, arithmetic.
Those three things engaged your brain all the time. It

(23:17):
wasn't that it was the most important thing to learn.
It was that it kept your brain active. And by
keeping your brain active, you learned more. You actually could
understand history, you could you know, move forward with sciences.
You could do all these things. But those three things
are the main things that keep your brain active. Yes, Steven, mathematics.
I'm throwing it out there before you even start cheering.

(23:40):
I'm giving math. It's proper due.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I was told there was only math discussions on this
network on Sundays.

Speaker 11 (23:50):
Well, okay, so yes, it's way.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
To break a rule your first show back in a while.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm just mentioning math. I'm not actually mathing. We all know.
Mathing and I do not get along. Sure, but you know,
it is scary because when you compare that to say
a computer, and it's like forty percent of it stops working.

(24:20):
You're going to get a new computer, right, You're not
going to keep fiddling with the old one. This is
what's happening to great That is alarming. That should actually
alarm a lot of people. Yea, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Hear in for the win. All you have to do
for neural flatline isternal.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Bravo.

Speaker 11 (24:40):
He's not wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
My sister was watching it the other day and I just, oh,
my god, why you're watching this? I think that was
was it? Probably it was one of the nightty day
fiance things or something to that effect, and I'm like,
why are you watching this?

Speaker 11 (25:00):
She says?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I love a complete and total train wreck. It's like, Okay,
I granted this is it, you know, but it's just
for me. Engaging your brain is especially important as you
grow older and as you get more dependent on AI,

(25:24):
as you get dependent on assisted writing, on the CHATBT
things of that nature, you lose that ability and you're
becoming more susceptible to actually forgetting things to you know,
your brain needs to be engaged at all times. That's
one of the reasons that a lot of people are

(25:45):
actually trying to bring back cursive writing. Most people are like, no,
I don't want to do that. My handwriting is atrocious,
blah blah blah blah. And for me, it wasn't about
having perfect penmanship. It was for my teacher. And this
was back when they could still slap your hands with

(26:06):
a ruler if you did it wrong. So I made
sure my pembership was was pretty good because I didn't
want my hands to hurt.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I didn't go to Catholic school, so I didn't worry
about that.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
No, this was public school.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, they didn't need that much.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
She was she was this Irish herodin. I think that's
the term herodin.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
She was just.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Ill mean, and I'm like, you're irish, what the hell
are you doing in this place which is eighty five
percent hispetic. But I didn't want to. I didn't want
to risk another slap in the hat. So but she
would walk around with a ruler and and this was
for an entire half year. We had penmanship. So and

(26:58):
she was very strict about it. And I'm proud. I'm
happy to say I passed with an A plus in
her class, so yay me. But you know, she was
very strict. She would, you know, if she saw you
looping in correctly or doing the e wrong or whatever,
she would hit your hand with it ruler and tell
you to repeat it ten more times until you got
it right. And one of the football players had horrible handwriting.

(27:25):
He went on to do great things. He played for
an under dame and everything, but as far as femanship,
he barely got a circle seventy. He was like, thank
God for football, because my hands were really rough. I
could take the pain. N I love him, but you know,

(27:48):
bringing back what I call flowery writing, you know, cursive
or even just good writing, you know, really well, concentrating
on your the way you write your letters, the way
you write you know, the composition of your sentences. Things

(28:10):
of that nature would help you with your with with
your brain, with your creativity. And that is one thing
that a lot of people really don't understand. The human
brain needs that creativity component. It really does. Some people say, oh,
I'm not creative in the least. I'm looking at you, Steven,
but I've seen that desk that you built, and even

(28:32):
though it's full of beautiful angles and everything, that took
a lot of creativity to do so. And I don't
care if you followed instructions. It doesn't matter if you
follow instructions. It's still created. You're still putting forth, you
are still making sure that the joinery is correct. You
measure twice, you cut once. You you know, you stand

(28:54):
it everything perfectly. You you know, seal the wood. You did everything,
and it was a y'all. Stephen should post a picture
of that desk again because it was beautiful. Sadly he
had to take it apart to put it in the room,
if I recall correctly, because it would fit through the door.
But it was a beautiful desk. So for all that, Stephen,

(29:18):
see it's his own design. So that is creativity. So
don't lie, you are a creative individual. But you did
that creativity. I do all sorts of creative things, y'all know.
I do the rock thing. I will be getting back
to my rock thing. I'm sorry that I had to
postpone it for a few months due to extenuating circumstances

(29:42):
in my family, but I'll be getting back to that soon.
I started writing today. I started sending letters and note
cards today to friends who had sent cards of condolence
to me and my family. So you know, I'm getting
back into that groove of doing those things that help

(30:07):
me keep up with that creative side of my brain.
And it's important. And chat GPT takes that from you
because you basically surrender that part of you when you
instruct some program to do the thinking and the writing
for you.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
No, I agree. I mean there are things that I
like about it, Like for me, I find ways to
use it to bolster my creativity. Like I can't draw,
for crap, but I can use words, So I will
use like crock and chat GPT to help me design
graphics and stuff. So but I'm putting a lot of
thoughts in that. Still, I'm not just telling it. Hey,
I want a thousand word essay on this, and I

(30:53):
want you to spit it out for me. I mean,
even when I use it for show prep and stuff,
I'm still setting the parameters for it. I'm still going
back through, I'm checking it, I'm adding to it. I'm saying, hey,
you missed this part, or hey you missed this part,
or hey can you do this this way? So I
can see that if you're if you're leaning on it completely,
I can understand how it can be something that would
basically creator your creativity. But if you're using it appropriately,

(31:16):
in some cases, especially in my instances, I feel like
it actually helps my creativity. Like since I'm Amish and
I have been using both rock and chats ept a
lot more for juxtaposition because it helps get past all
the pop culture references when we're not looking for them,
and it's brought that show like light years ahead of
where it was before because it doesn't take us three
weeks to research to one topic anymore. Trust me, it

(31:39):
used to sometime to took you it longer. So I
mean I can see both sides. I mean, if you're
using it to do the work for you and not
using it as a tool to help you do your work.
I can see where people would have issues with their
creativity falling off, but that's the same for a lot
of stuff. I mean, they used to say that. They
used to say the same thing about calculators and everything else.

(32:02):
And I'm not necessarily saying they're wrong because a lot
of people from my age group that you know, always
used the calculator. They couldn't do math for craft. Hell.
I thought I was pretty good at math for a
while until I made a three thousand dollars mistake in
the field. Trust me, I got really good at math
after that I started rainmaking. Everybody was even my family
was like, dude, you do a math in your head.
I was like, yeah, I caused myself not to be

(32:23):
able to eat for a month. That kind of flipped
the Rainman switch.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I you know, when I was at my parents, my
mom said that we should take some of my dad's
personal effects that we had wanted, and my father actually
gave several little things to some of us several years ago.

(32:50):
One of them was a slide rule. And I'm looking
at at going, Dad, what, I don't know how to
use this. He looked at me straight in the face
and said that helped Alan Shepard And I'm looking at him, going,
are you serious right now It's like yeah, he walked away.
I'm like, I have the slide rule that my father

(33:15):
used for calculations that helped Alan Shepherds.

Speaker 11 (33:22):
Up going.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I am like beside myself. But then my dad brought
me back down and said it's just a slide rule,
and I'm like, no, that's no Dad, It's more than
just a slidery. Back then, that's all you had, you know,
the calculators were not something like what we have in
our pockets now or anything like that. And you know,

(33:44):
for some of you who are not familiar, my dad
did work for NASA in a tifancy for a time
and he worked in the big computer section and he
did one of the people that he did work with,
Dorothy On. So when he gives you know, when he
gave me that slide rule, I was just like in

(34:06):
all of it, I wanted to like frame it. I
wanted to do a little plaque, do all this stuff right.
And he's like, it's just a slide rule. I said, yeah,
but it's what you do with that slide rule, you know,
it's what you do with a calculator. Not just turn
it upside down so you can say.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Boobies, Hey, damn it. Whoever first was an artist him
has a question was rule.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
It's just a slight rule. I actually ended up giving
it to my son. He actually he has it with
him and it's and he's actually taught himself to use it,
which I'm not surprised. It's my son has always been
that way. I believe he does.

Speaker 11 (34:53):
Not get it from me.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
But I just I just remember, you know, my dad
kind of made a big deal about it. Then he
just completely took it back, but you know, he was right,
and it was it was just funny.

Speaker 11 (35:16):
It's always been funny to me.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I I know. And and maybe I'm just, like I said,
being a fuddy duddy or everything. And yes, I can
honestly see where you can use chat GPT for some
good research for example, you know those kind of things.
I get that, but it is very very close to

(35:40):
where we depend on it for everything when it comes
to things of that nature. You have several professors that
are like AI is the band of their existence.

Speaker 11 (35:50):
Now you have.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Schools that are saying we should have AI. They're going
to allow AI in the classroom because if you use
AI in the classroom, use it for a test. It's
not cheating, that's there. That's what they're saying. And I'm like, no, actually,
that's that's you're just condoning cheating now, so you're taking
away what cheating is completely. You know, how else are

(36:15):
they going to cheat if they use AI? What else
can you do? So? You know, and I have one
a friend of mine, he's a professor. He actually blinded
several parts of the essay questions because he teaches online courses.

(36:37):
And basically it was a trap so if the kid
or young adult put it into AI, the AI would
actually be able to see what he hid on the
question and answer it. So it was a trap. And
he said, out of all of my students, only four
of them felt for one completely felt for it. The

(37:00):
entire thing was AI. And I was like, that's amazing, you.
I can't believe. And he says, the sad part is
I told them specifically there will be traps, and they
still did it because they're just they don't want to
put in the effort. And that's another problem. When you're
taking away the ability to put effort into anything, you know,

(37:24):
people get lazy. The brain atrophies, you know that kind
of thing. I'm not saying that every time you use
chat GPT, your brain's gonna atrophy. Obviously, look at Ordy
and look at Rick. Mean, they use it and they're
still very smart people.

Speaker 11 (37:39):
Rightly, what were you doing?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
But when you have somebody using it constantly for all
of their papers, when they're using it to answer all
of the questions, they don't learn anything.

Speaker 11 (37:56):
There's no learning involved.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
When you use it in that manner, when you use
it for research, yes there's learning involved. As long as
you actually understand that it is a tool and not
the answer for everything, then you're fine. I find a
lot of people don't realize that.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
I feel like we're starting to hit that era in
the all the different sci fi shows and some of
the sci fi movies that have come out were eventually
man in technology interface and basically anytime they need an
answer to a question, they just jack in and answer it.
Because I feel like that happens all the time with
Google and stuff. Now, I know people that use you know,

(38:35):
especially I mean, I've even caught myself doing it some now,
even though I am semi affluent in a few different languages.
Somebody will be a smart ass and starts spouting off
to me in a language that I don't know, and
GROC is an instant translator. I just gotpy and paste
it and it tells me exactly what language it is.
It tells me what they were saying, and if I
ask it to it gives me appropriate sarcastic responses to
pay back.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I can see the use for that, honestly. When you
I mean, you're on a platform where people from all
of the world can interact with you at any given
time and can say things. And Google Translate is not
the best thing out there.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Erectrects your Your brain atrophy is running parallel to your
liver atrophy, my friend, But I still love you.

Speaker 11 (39:25):
Liver After.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Don't ask, don't ask the smartest to explain how your
brain's actterphying without AI if you don't want the smartest answer.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
H I think Calvin is going to be using rock
for a very defarious reason.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's not That's not the same chick to Jeff's after
is it?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
No? No, Jeff is after Santa Mar Okay, yeah, after Georgia, I.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Was like, two of my friends aren't about to be
fighting over the same chick, are they I can't pick
sides of your guys.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
No, no, but they're they're they're pretty good contemporaries if
I recall correctly. But man, would I give I would
pay bank bank to see Maloney go go up against
Shinebaum and just knock her the fuck out. I really
don't like the president of Mexico.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Can you tell, oh, dude that, well, she's she's a
she's a bitch and a half. I mean, let's just
be honest.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I mean, well, come on, you're you stand there and
you're saying that it is our duty speaking to her people,
to you know, her citizens, it is our duty to
support and protect those who leave our country for a
better life in the United States. I'm like, so, you

(40:56):
basically admit your country is a shithole because people are
leaving it.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
For a better life.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Your own words, they are her own words. And I
was like, yeah, that doesn't make you look good. That
does not make you look good. I've had people ask
me how I feel about her, and I'm like, you
do not want to go down that rabbit hole, because
as much as I detested a lot of the previous presidents,

(41:24):
this one takes the fucking cake y'all cannot possibly understand
how bad she is for Mexico, and I don't expect
most people to understand. I tend to keep up with
those news because I grew up literally twenty five miles
from the border, the southern border, in the southern part

(41:48):
of Texas, so news of Mexico affect the area a lot.
So I always try to keep up with the politics
in Mexico. Not to mention, some of my best friends
actually live in either in the in Mexico City or
one of the surrounding suburban areas, so I get to

(42:13):
hear a lot about what's going on over there. As
a matter of fact, one of my best friends is
coming back to the States. He has citizenship here, but
he's married to a Mexican national, so he lives down
there and he has visa.

Speaker 11 (42:27):
And you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
But he's coming back up to the States too. For
his qualifications. He used to be in the FBI, and
so he has to qualify once a year so that
he could carry his weapon. And I'm like, they let
you carry in Mexico. He says, you have no idea
the hurdles that I had to go through and the

(42:52):
money I had to spend to be able to carry.
And I'm like, I don't want to know, do I
He's like, yeah, you don't want to, but you know,
he does it because he wants to be able to
protect his family and his neighbors. They know that he
has the permit and he can legally carry an arm

(43:16):
inside Mexico, so he kind of oversees the entire neighborhood
where he lives at, you know.

Speaker 11 (43:22):
And and.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I'm like, but you live in a really nice neighborhood,
why would they be afraid? And he confirmed something for
me that had you know, most people like yeah, they
they kind of like, yeah, this is this is probably true. No,
he confirmed it. There is not one area of Mexican
Mexico that is not controlled by the cartels, not one. No,

(43:49):
there's there's no neighborhood, there's no city, there's no slice
of government, nothing, And so you know, at least with
this he can protect his family. So that's why he
comes up to qualifying everything. Because he also believes it's
better to have it and not need it than need
it or not have it. And in Mexico, you may

(44:11):
need it. It's sad to say, but you know even
he and he's a liberal, y'all. He's liberal. He's been
a Democrat all his life. And he tells me that
this woman is not good for Mexico. She does the
only reason she's up there, He's very sure it's the cartels.

(44:34):
And I'm like, yeah, that tracks from everything that she
has said.

Speaker 11 (44:39):
That completely tracks, and he's like.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And he's all like, thankfully it's only five years, because
you know, the president can only serve five years and
then he can no longer run again in Mexico. So
but we'll see, we'll see. But anyway, moving back, I
really would like to see shinbaum me in the ring
because I Aloney would come away the winner.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, I will. Other than my idea of turning it
into a parking lot, I like Steven's idea of turning
the un in the thunderdome. That could be fun.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Oh that would be so cool. I would not mind that.
Chat GPT, can you tell me how would I see it?
You know? And I see it in Groc. A lot
of people like to ask Roc Groc translate this as
if you were a pirate, or as if you were

(45:36):
jar Jar binks, or as if you were speaking in
the Victorian era and throw some steampunk you know into
it or whatever. You know.

Speaker 11 (45:44):
The last grog to do this, and that's cute and funny.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I like that.

Speaker 11 (45:52):
Uses it does.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
And you know when you ask grog to, like, hey,
make you look like a you know, a Disney princess
or you know those things, I can see the attraction.
I've actually done that. I've never never posted the results
because they were so ridiculous, but I did send them

(46:15):
to my sisters and they agreed. They thought that I
should like burn those and I was like, yeah, so
I deleted everything but chicken.

Speaker 11 (46:27):
Y'all it was bad. It's really stickd Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I did not come out looking my Jasmine. I certainly
did not look like Ariel. I looked like the little
girl that was crying the sadness of the you know,
the the emotions. It was sad all that's what I
look like. I was like, you're not even making me

(46:55):
look like Vella. I was like, I laugh a lot.
I should be the happy character. But so I just
I just said, no, I'm not gonna do that anymore
because I will be severely disappointed.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, the Bigfoot videos have been cool, and the storm,
the Stormtrooper videos are fucking awesome. I've been trying to
I've been trying to come up with a program that
I could use to start putting out some like juxtare
related AI videos like that. I think those would be
kind of cool, but I haven't been able to figure
how to do it yet.

Speaker 11 (47:27):
Oh that.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I remember the first time I saw one of the
Bigfoot videos, I said it to Horty, I was I
was in tears, and then I shared that into my
sister's chat and they were screaming. They're like son said,

(47:49):
I don't know. Oh, I love those. I love that
people have actually thought to use chat topt in this manner.
The problem for me lies in using chapter PT to

(48:11):
answer everything for you, and that, I think is where
a lot of students in university and college have fallen
into that trap. Like you said, you and already use
it for research, and you know that's great, But can

(48:33):
you imagine telling a student nowadays you need to write
a five page paper on.

Speaker 11 (48:43):
This book. Uh, pick a book, any book. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
It could be the shining for all I care. You
need to pick three you know resources that can corroborate
your you know what you think this book is trying
to tell you or whatever. You cannot use your computer.
You cannot use Wikipedia, you cannot use Google. You must

(49:07):
use the card catalog. If a card catalog is not
available to you, you will go to the library and
request that somebody bring up the card catalog numbers.

Speaker 11 (49:16):
And tell you where you can find that book.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
But you will use actual paper books to do your research.
Can you imagine a student nowaday having to do that?

Speaker 11 (49:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:30):
No, well, I mean, well, another little interesting thing, and
it's making it into like paid gigs, which annoys me.
So there was a story that I think it was
Vanity Fair that put it out. They were it was
whoever does the summer reading list one? I think it
was Vanity Fair, mayme and somebody else. But it turns
out that they used AI to write the article in

(49:52):
its entirety, and somebody went to go try to fact
check it, and half the titles of the dam thing
listed didn't even exist. I'm like, you didn't even fact
check your AI before you published your ship? Really?

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah? And but that's you know, people fall into that
trap thinking, oh, you know, it's done and they don't
do any fact checking and that and that is bad,
especially nowadays, when you have such a thing as fact checkers,
you know what I mean, You would think that that

(50:28):
would be an incentive, but no, which tells you how
little we think of fact checkers as it is in
the media anyway. If they can't if the people on
on the same side as the fact checkers don't trust
the fact checkers, you know, why would they be fact
checking anything else. That's the way I see it. But yeah,

(50:48):
it was.

Speaker 11 (50:50):
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
My niece was she's taking college courses online because she's
living in Germany at at at the moment, and she
wants to finish her read and she had to write
a paper on Japanese history. And I said, oh, man,
it's too bad that my my friend is you know,

(51:13):
not available for that. But he's a big Jepanese history nerd,
and blah blah blah blah and all that stuff. And
she's like, well, our professor says that, you know, I'm
having a tough time doing it because we are limited
in where we can go find our references and do
our research. And I looked at her and I said,

(51:35):
what do you mean you're limited? She said that they
were not allowed to do any electronic research. And I
was like, Oh, let's go to library. So I talked
to the library and she's walking in. It's like, oh,
I feel so at home. Her mother's a library, so
she's used to being in libraries all the time, my sister,

(51:59):
and so so she goes up and she says, I,
you know, do you have a card catalog? You know,
dah blah blah blah. Well, their entire card catalog is
obviously online, you know, so you actually have to go
to one of the computers and punch all that stuff in.
And so she did, but she went and went and
found the books. Luckily for her, I still have my

(52:21):
library card. I haven't been in that town in so
many years, but I still keep it active just in case,
because whenever we visit, my dad and I would go
to the library, so my card was selective. So I
checked out the books for her and everything, and she
took them home and she was actually writing down by
hand what she was going to be typing later to

(52:45):
send to the teacher. And I looked at her and
I was like, I'm so proud of you that you're
writing everything out by hand before typing it up and
everything and she says, I was so So she says,
Mom told me that you used to do that and
it helped you a lot. So I decided to start
doing it too. And I was like, she learned something

(53:08):
from me. And I was like, well, your mom is right,
because I taught her if you write everything out first
before you start typing it, you have better retention. The
word flows better as you're typing it because you've already
written it out. It's already in your head. You don't
have to come up with other ways of, you know,

(53:29):
saying something or whatever. So she was doing all that,
and she apparently she did really well because she sends
me a message and says I got an a. So
I was like, yay, you know, but these were habits
that she learned from her mother, who I had, you know,
shared my trick to remembering things before, you know, when

(53:52):
doing papers and stuff like that, and this is stuff
that was passed down. In contrast, you know, well, I
see my other niece who is a preschool teacher, and
everything her entire plan. She asked chat Jipt to draw
it up, and I'm like, why would you need chat

(54:16):
jipt to draw a plan for preschoolers? I mean, what
are you teaching these kids? I mean it is a
Montessori school, don't get me wrong. So so yeah, they
get taught very early. But I was reading some of
her things and it was talking about, excuse me, it

(54:40):
was talking about, uh, doing handprints and how, you know,
describing how handprints could look like, you know, a turkey
or a chicken, or you know a flower, or you
know what you can do with a handprints, and so
that's kind of a method to unlock creativity. But I

(55:01):
asked her, I was like, why did you need Chad
GBT to tell you that? She's like, oh, I just
I don't have time to think about this stuff. And
I was like, well, wait a minute. You're teaching kids creativity,
but you don't have the time to come up with

(55:21):
methods of creativity. Doesn't that sound weird to you? She's like,
all the teachers do it. And I'm like, well, okay,
are you going to jump off the cliff too? Yes, exactly,
And I was just I was really stunned. Now, don't

(55:41):
get me wrong, this is this is my most liberal niece.
And that's saying a lot. I mean a lot. She
she is, she's she's very interesting, because as she was walking,
she walked into the den and there were six adults there.

(56:03):
They were watching forty eight hours, the TV show the
not the movie, and it was an interesting case that
actually happened here in the Dallas Fort Worth area. And
she she picked up the remote and told everybody, it's like,
this is this is, this will rot your brain. And

(56:25):
I looked at her, and before I could launch my
ass of that chair, my brother in law said, well,
then if you don't want to watch it, you should
leave the room, because it's like she's you know, she's
she's my oldest niece. She's thirty five going on thirty six.

(56:45):
But she's like, you know, this will rot your brain.
So I know better than you do. You know, she's
always been that way. But she by and then but
then you know over here she's like letting chant do
everything because she does and have the time or the
inclination to be creative. But she's telling us at watching
a show about a crime that happened in DFW, what

(57:11):
brought my brain?

Speaker 11 (57:12):
See what I mean?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I was like, there's a certain disconnect here. That's sure
she's seeing it, but you know, she wanted to go
live in a commune a long time ago, and I
actually had to prove to her that that was not
that was not to her advantage. It took a while,
but it finally sank in. She thought that if she
went to live in this commune that you know, she

(57:35):
didn't have to work for any you know, she would
work for her food and her place to sleep or whatever,
and there would be absolutely no money exchange for anything.
Everybody was working together and all that stuff. And I'm
looking at her, going, yeah, how are you going to
pay for the electricity? And she's like what electricity? It's like, oh,
so you guys are going to live in the dark. Okay,

(57:57):
one less thing, right, I mean, do you know where
the wood is going to come for your wood stoves
when you cook? And she's like, what are you talking about?
We're gonna have stoves. And it's like, well, then that
requires electricity or propane? So which is it? Because either way,
if you're going to have to pay with money, oh
like that, well, you know, we're going to raise money

(58:18):
by selling the food that we grow, and then that
money goes to the head guy and he pays all
the bills. And I'm like, okay, I actually have to
have to get down for it. In words, she could understand.

Speaker 11 (58:33):
This was this was about fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
She wanted to do this, and I'm like so glad
that I intervened. And the thing was, I was like
very happy to help her with this. I really wanted
this to succeed. I wanted her to go to a
commune and see what it was like. And sometimes I
wonder if I did her at the service by dissuading
her from her because I think by living in a
commune she would have woken up to her stupidity a

(58:58):
lot sooner. She still has Okay, she still hasn't woken
up to it, but.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
You probably saved her life though, let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
And that was another thing that was That was my
main worry because this common was going to be in
the Everglades in Florida, in a very very small area.
And I'm but I mean they this was online. This
all of this stuff was online and you could look
it up and everything, and there was a location.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Just dawned on me, this is probably where they're building
Alligator Alcatraz.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Now I could hope, So I could only hope, so
Alligator Alcaprath. I just love how people have gotten so
insane about Oh my god, there's Gater's and Python's there. Yeah,
and people live there with them every day. It's okay,
calm down.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
When DeSantis is calling it alligator Alcatraz, now I love her.
He's like leaning into it. You did a press conference
zone on the other day. Oh. Some things about this
timeline are the worst. Others are the best. The fact
that we have politicians that are learning to troll and

(01:00:12):
it's actually amusing trolling. It's kind of been fun.

Speaker 11 (01:00:16):
Yeah, I have that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I you know, I have to ad met some of
you may or may not know. My dad passed away
last the ninth of this past month of this month.
And my dad loves stupid people. And I'm not saying

(01:00:39):
that he loved them in a charitable way, that he
loved them because they were God's children, well that they.

Speaker 11 (01:00:51):
So well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
He loved them for the same reason that my sister
loves ninety day fiance. He can't resist the trade wreck
for the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Entertainment, but the cats out of the bag. I have
a question, did your dad get his star on the
Wall of Heroes, because we both know he got his
star on the Wall of Heroes.

Speaker 11 (01:01:15):
It's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
You should bring that up, I think and I have
this running we have this running joke that my dad
was a secret agent man or whatever. Kius some of
the stuff that my dad did when he was I mean,
he it just sounds, but he was a I wanted

(01:01:36):
to think that my dad was just plain ordinary dude. Well,
like I said, we were going through some of his things,
I was seeing citations, it's seeing things that have to
do with several police departs. And it's not about bail.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
I told you he was a secret agent.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
No, No, what happened was he was a member of
the Wias Club and he was also a member of
the Rotary Club. But for a long time, my dad
knew a lot of police officers virtually of the fact
that he taught a lot of them in my hometown.

(01:02:26):
I mean there was there was a time that my
grandmother taught half the half the town and my dad
taught the other half. I mean that was how how
well known my parents my mom and my dad both are,
but mostly my dad and I. You know, when I
wrote about my dad on my blog, I really wasn't

(01:02:48):
aware of how many people did know him and how
well he was known. Outside of my hometown, because there
were people all over the island that knew about my dad.
And when he came to work over here. You know,
his book was very humble. He was an manager for
a medical supply company. They made kidney dialysis machines, they

(01:03:12):
made the bloodlines, they made you know, all the little
all the little things uh to use in h you know,
the ivy bags, the everything, so uh to find these citations.
And the citations were like, you know, for you know,
your volunteer work or for.

Speaker 11 (01:03:34):
Uh, you know, being.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
The citizen of of of the month for this particular
time frame. I and you know, and I asked moments
like why why was he a citizen of the month?
You know, like there were like two or three of these,
and she's like, oh, hold on. This one was, oh, yeah,
he rescued two people who had been in a car accident. Oh.

(01:03:57):
And this one was for this other thing. Oh. And
this one was technically it wasn't the police department, it
was the fire department. But they didn't have the the
citation form, so they used this one from the police department.
But see it's signed here why the fire chief and
all that stuff. And I'm like what did he do.

(01:04:19):
He conducted a seminar on how best to put out
you know, kitchen fires and all that stuff. And I'm
looking at my mom, going, Dad, I never stepped put
in a kitchen it is line And Mom said that
may be true, but he knew how to put out fires. So,

(01:04:44):
you know, like I said, he was very well known.
I mean he had stuff from the DA, he had
stuff from the FBI Counterfeit Section, he had stuff from
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Like, uh, sure he did. Yeah, no, I'm telling you
because he was a spy.

Speaker 11 (01:05:04):
So good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
But he was known by a lot of people, and
I was very I was very moved to hear from
so many people. I got messages from people from Puerto
Rico saying, because of your dad, I ended up going

(01:05:29):
into medicine. Because of your dad, I became a physicist
and I now I'm a professor at You know, this
person was about to retire from the University of Puerto Rico.
That's my dad was pretty old, and it was it
was amazing to me, you know that I did write

(01:05:53):
about how he had founded the physics department at the
high school and incentivized so many kids to go into
the space sciences. Three of them ended up working for DASA,
and that I knew that I personally met, you know,
and they all told me the same thing. Had it
not been for your dad, I probably would have ended

(01:06:13):
up being an accountant. I probably would have been ended up,
you know, working at the bank or doing something you
know that was expected of me. But because of what
he taught me, I decided, you know what, I'm going
to see if I can do this.

Speaker 11 (01:06:26):
And a lot of them managed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
To do it, and it was it was humbling to
see so many people talking about how.

Speaker 11 (01:06:34):
My dad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Had done this. You just don't think of your dad
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
He was an amazing man, Aggie.

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
We like to think so that he was my dad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
We know we know though, because he raised an amazing daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I hope my sisters are not sending to do this
because they'll say, oh, he's talking about me.

Speaker 11 (01:07:02):
He's talking about me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
No, he's talking about me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
If you're listening, I don't know any of you. I
know who I know of whom I'm speaking, and I
don't know any of you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Oh it's funny because my nephew now has nicknames for
all of us. I'm Aunt Lego, Okay, because I don't
let go, and and he arrives. You know, my brother
brought him down for a while. And he arrives and

(01:07:36):
he rush to me and says Lego. And I was like,
how did you know?

Speaker 11 (01:07:39):
And he's like, how did I know? What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I brought your legos? I could hear my brother just
screaming on the other side of the house. No, but
I have a reputation I have.

Speaker 11 (01:07:57):
Yeah, So so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
We have a we have a question in the chat.

Speaker 11 (01:08:04):
Okay, what.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
There's Aggie. Did you ever see the movie Big Fish?
It's about an amazing, fanciful dad and his son.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
No, it's one of the movies that I've really really
been meaning, you know, it's really weird. I was thinking
about that movie two days ago, and I don't know
why it popped into my head, but that's probably why.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Probably, dude, you just realized your dad did all kinds
of amazing things, and you know it was all part
of his secret covered a lot of everybody know that
he was a secret agent or something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Well, I will I will tell you this. Yeah, there
are nutty characters in my family, simply by virtue of
the fact that we're Puerto Rican. So there's not a
lot of biggest strategy.

Speaker 11 (01:09:04):
I kid you not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
My cousin the other day called and she was telling
me that she and her her husband are taking a
trip to the Virgin Islands and I asked her which one.
She said, probably said Croix, and I was like, probably,
esays yeah, I gotta consult the White Witch to see

(01:09:28):
which of the three I really want to see and
which one suits me better. I'm like, yeah, you go,
girls like the White Witch. I was like, oh my god,
my cousin is forty nine years old and she's telling
me she's gonna go consult the White Witch. I didn't

(01:09:48):
even blink, y'all. I didn't say I just said, oh, yeah, okay,
I see why, Okay, yeah, let me know where you
go bring me back eaching. Oh yeah, but you know,
that's that's life. So I think. You know, honestly, my dad,

(01:10:12):
had he been had he still been here, I would
have loved to have had this chat about chat TPT
with him, because, like I said, he still knew how
to use a slide role. He he loved computers.

Speaker 11 (01:10:28):
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
He waited every Friday for the new Linux to drop.
You know, the new Linux whatever to drop so that
he could mess with it and everything. He had his
own personal library of computer books that mostly are you know,
obsolete now, but a lot of people still like it

(01:10:52):
because they you know, a lot of people like the
older stuff. So we're going to dominate that to the
lab area as well. But I remember my Dad's like,
you know, Friday's coming, I'm so excited, and he would
he would tell us.

Speaker 11 (01:11:08):
And I was the only.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
One that used Linux, so I was like, he would
he would call me to talk about this all the time,
and I would tell him, Yeah, you know, either I
would whatever it was, either I liked it or I
hated it. There was never in between with Linux. I
noticed that at least for me. But my dad loved
all of it, and even if it got him mad,

(01:11:30):
he still loved it. And so you know, this Chatgypt thing,
I would have loved to have known his opinion on it,
because I know he would never have used it. For him,
it was like, there's no reason for me to use
this whatsoever, and it would, you know, which would be

(01:11:50):
surprising especially for somebody that has always enjoyed computers and
you know, built his own and and did all sorts
of computer work and love you know, Linux and open
source stuff and you know, boont whatever. But for him,
I think that this would have been like it would

(01:12:12):
have been the bridge too far for him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I I mean probably. I think if he used it
at all, it probably would have been kind of limited
to what I'm much and I use it for. I
don't I don't think you would have gone full into it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I don't think so either. I think you would know
that there is a limit that you should observe. Not
that chat, GPT or AI or you know, grog or
any of these things have a limit. I'm saying that
you need to observe a limit yourself when it comes
to using these particular programs. If you know, I can

(01:12:54):
use it for this, that any other thing, but never
for these other things, you'll be okay. But once you
depend on it completely, I do think that it would
be detrimental to your mental health. And there are reports
of people that have fallen for the chat GPT characters
that they talk to. There was one that was like so,

(01:13:19):
and I think it was on New York Times. They
were talking about it that somebody was so involved with
Juliet who happened to be a chat to Bet character,
they would they would consult her for everything. And there
was another woman who was very dependent on the chat
tipt character that she had created. So there are certain pitfalls,

(01:13:42):
there are certain dangers that a lot of people have
to observe. And what I have seen is that the
ones with the weaker minds tend to fall the hardest.
The ones that keep up their creativity, keep doing the
old fashioned things like reading from an actor book rather
than from a tablet, you know, actually turning the pages,

(01:14:04):
doing the old the more old fashioned things that we
were used to doing, tend to have bigger reservations and
know the limits that they can that they should observe
with chat Toby Tea. It's it's kind of nebulous.

Speaker 11 (01:14:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
There's some people that cross the boundary, you know, in
either direction, but that has That's what I have noticed.
The people that really don't, you know, the generation that
is instant gratification, that needs it right now, right then

(01:14:42):
and there, those are the ones that have the biggest
pitfalls with Chat to be Tea.

Speaker 11 (01:14:49):
At least that's what I've noticed.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Well, I mean again, it's just I think I think
it's about I think it's about how the stuff gets used.
I mean, I think the one thing that just kind
of out of everything that we've discussed today, the preschool
teacher that's using it to make lessons plan lesson plans
because she doesn't have time to make lessons lesson plans,
Like that's your job. That's like a tenant to your

(01:15:19):
job is to is to figure out what you're going
to be teaching your children because you're their teacher. But
you don't anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Yeah, that just you know, and that's you know, that's
kind of scary because it is her job to show
kids how to be creative, and she needs to be
able she as in my knee I speak of my
niece in particular, she needs to be able to pull
something out of her hat immediately if the child wants

(01:15:52):
to do something creative, and she needs to be able
to be there to show him how. And she's I
don't think she's at that level anymore. I really don't.
I don't think that she is capable of being creative.
You know, she was one of the ones that I
All was always doing. You know, she would draw, she

(01:16:16):
would do sketches. She uh, she liked fashion, and she
would make her own jewelry, and that's gone completely away.
Now maybe that's because she is a single mom, but
I told her, you know, you can get back to
doing that with with your with your daughter, you know,

(01:16:39):
teach her how you used to make your earrings and
your necklaces. And she, you know, she off handly said, oh,
I've forgotten how to do all that. I'm like, how
do you forget to string things together and then tie them?
I don't. It's like, it wasn't that hard. I used
to do it with you you all.

Speaker 11 (01:17:02):
But you know she did say that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Now, let's say the token as we grow older, Yeah,
we do forget how we did somethings. My mom was
lamenting the fact that she used to crochet a lot
when she was younger, and she fell off the habit,
and now she's like, I would have to like look
at crochet books again to get the hang of it again,
because I can't just recall it. But she's, you know,

(01:17:26):
she's almost eighty, so I can understand that, but not
for my knees. Not when it came. You know, it
wasn't like she was doing you know, fine metal work
of any sort. She was literally just using beads and
straining them along in several patterns, and she would use feathers,

(01:17:47):
and she would use all sorts of little trinkets and
stuff like that, but basically she would just make necklaces
and earrings. And for her to tell me she's forgotten
how to do that simple task, it's kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
I was just kind of does she ever.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Well? You know I I was kind of wondering that too,
But she doesn't show any other signs. And it's not
like she's acting like she's forgotten people's names or where
she's at or anything of that sort. It's just that
particular thing. She's like, oh, yeah, I forgot how to
do it, So it's just dismissed it for her, it's

(01:18:27):
not important to remember. For me, I would be panicking
if I couldn't remember how to do that right. But
that's because I don't rely on a lot of technology.
I think this is as far as I god as
X and social media and I'll type something and you know,
i'll post a morning meme and I'll be snarky and everything.

(01:18:51):
But that doesn't require a lot when you think about it,
Unlike people who are constantly doing code and you know,
learning you know, computer languages and building a computer and
things of that nature.

Speaker 11 (01:19:06):
You know that does require a lot of a lot
of thought and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
But for me, you know, when I'm when I'm refinishing
a piece of furniture, there are steps that are in
my brain where you start and how you finish and
everything in between. If I were to forget that because
I stopped doing it for just a few months, I
would be alarmed. I would seriously be alarmed, because there's

(01:19:31):
no reason for me to forget something like that. So
I mean, I have to be alarmed. It's kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Well, I mean, I understand what especially what you mean,
because I mean, you know how my memory works, and
a lot of people have accused me of having a
photographic memory. I don't think that. I don't think it's
that because there are things that I don't remember instantaneously,
but I have good recall, and I've noticed as I've
gotten older, some of the recall isn't there anymore. Sometimes,

(01:19:58):
like I can still usually get to it, but it's
further back in the hard drive now. And I was
actually joking with almost the other day, I was like,
I think I need to defrag my hard drive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Oh yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Took me like ten minutes to remember something that would
have taken me like ten seconds before. I was like, oh,
I don't like this feeling.

Speaker 11 (01:20:19):
Oh I remember de dragging my heart drive.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
It's been so long. How do I do that?

Speaker 11 (01:20:29):
No, I can.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
I totally understand it. There was a time when, you know,
that was actually really necessary to do every so often.
But with the advancement of you know, computers, the laptops
and everything ram all of that, it has become less.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
You know, most of most, I mean SSDs you can't
really do that with anyway, because they're they're basically giant thumbsticks,
so there's nothing there's no spinning wheels anymore. So, and
that's actually the choke Amish made. He's like, just get
an SSD, you won't have to was like I meant.
I was like I was talking about my brain. He
was like, yeah, so was I Like fuck it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Oh man, yeah, I you know. I remember. That was
another thing my dad I could tell when it was
time because he would retire to the computer room the
office where we had the computer really and closed the door.
And if he closes the door, there's only two reasons.

(01:21:32):
One he has to deal with an out of town
business call or two.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
That's what he called those out of town business calls.

Speaker 11 (01:21:40):
Okay, oh, believe me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
We could hear it, we could hear what was going on,
but he just he hated doing it. But you know,
I have to be done me.

Speaker 11 (01:21:54):
I could, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
I when we first got our first computer and everything
and we had to go through that, I learned how
to do it. And for me, it was like zen,
I could sit there and just wait and let you
know all of the you know happen and I could
be reading the whole thing, scrolling by and everything, and
it was fine for me. But my dad, no, my sister, no, no,

(01:22:18):
nobody in my family liked it. I'm just I'm just
wired differently.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Well no, I mean for me, it was kind of
like the thing my dad was always trying to teach
me with working on cars. I finally got with computers
because it's not that I don't understand the concept of
working on cars, and it's not like I can't walk
somebody else through it. But my hand, I've always had
some issues with being able to use my hands. I
went through a lot of physical therapy. I passed a

(01:22:46):
lot of it, and then things happened and nearly back
to where I started from. But so it was painful
for me to do things like that. But the one
thing that when my dad was always there, it was
one of those things of you're not going fast enough,
you're not doing this right, you're not doing that right.
So that's when I just started, you know, when I
got my first computer, and then I figured out you

(01:23:06):
could actually build your own. I just I started. It
was once I got a replacement computer for the one
that I had. When we actually got to the point
where I got passed the Commodore sixty four, I took
the old one apart like I did my stereo. When
I put it back together, and the first time I
actually built my own computer from scratch, I finally understood
what my dad was trying to teach me about cars. So,

(01:23:28):
I mean, the maintenance with computers, that stuff that that
never bothered me because I was just me making sure
the machine was in proper working order. So back then
I was kind of like you, you know, you'd watch
all the little the blocks that were out of place
get moved into the right place, and it was like
watching your house get cleaned. So I was like, oh,
I like wheels, So yeah, I get that, I really do.

(01:23:49):
And it was one of the first things that I
was able to make that connection with because working on
cars for me wasn't fun because my dad was very impatient.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Yeah, and I think I definitely get my patience from
my dad. My mom is patient, but only up to
a certain point. My dad was very patient. I got
my dad's patients, my mom's patience, my great grandfather's patience.

(01:24:17):
He was notorious for that. I got all of that
distilled them to me. So I have an unbound amount
of patients. So that's why I could sit there and
just and do all this stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:24:32):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I don't know if anybody is familiar with the retail,
but back in the nineties, we had to do gross
point margins in our stores. We had to The company
would send us an entire print out document, pages and
pages and pages of everything all the merchandiset was supposed

(01:24:54):
to be in the store, and I had to check
each and every skew of every item in the store
and make sure that it was on that let and
whatever was on that list that was not on my shelf.
I actually had to highlight and then put in a
separate document, and that would determine our loss prevention percentage.

(01:25:16):
And you're hoping to fall below three percent, you're really
hoping for less than one percent. I'm proud to say
that I never broke one point five percent, So that
was that was pretty good for both store my size
or the store that I had. The size of the
store I had I had to run. But nobody liked

(01:25:38):
doing gross margin because you had to take each item
and look it up in there, and it was by
skew number, so it wasn't in alphabetical order. It was
numerical order, but the stuff on the floor was alphabetical,
so you know, it was pretty difficult and it would

(01:25:59):
take several days. I had no problem doing that. I
just I went through. As a matter of fact, I
had other managers call me to come and do theirs
because I was willing to do that and I had.
There was one year that I did it for six
stores and my district manager's like, what are you doing.
It's like, well, they didn't want to do it. I
volunteered on my days off. I would go over to

(01:26:22):
these places, to this other, to another store, and I
would do as much as I could on my day off.
I didn't even get paid for this. I just found
it very soothing to do, and I was that patient,
you know. So so I've become famous in my family
for that, which is why everybody wants me to deal

(01:26:43):
with my mom now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Oh boy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Anyway, well we're close to the end of our show.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Yep, we did it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I rambled it for a lot, for a life time.

Speaker 11 (01:27:01):
I tend to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
No nobody notices. I don't know what it's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Anyway, So Greg, why don't you tell us what we
can find you?

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Uh, don't look for me to trap just kidding. You
can find me on X at Rodyrick seventy three. You
can find me tomorrow pushing buttons for the front Porch
forensics crew at eight pm Eastern, and then pushing buttons
for Cornymic Sunday nights on Courendymics reading room at seven
pm Eastern, and then back Monday night doing America Off

(01:27:33):
the Rails at probably nine thirty Eastern. I'll probably do
a ninety minute win this week and then Manorama and
then the usual stuff after that, and then back around
with you on Friday. Also contribute to Misfits Politics dot com,
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I also produce the Loft Party podcast which drops on Tuesdays.

(01:27:54):
How about you, folks or how about you Aggie? Where
can folks find you? Eventially, I remember how to say
that sentence in the right order.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I've been gone for a while, so you can find
me and a gieve can and then I get the
bark or keep over on x You can find me
a thirty pm Eastern Tuesday nights doing the Cocktail Lounge
with the ever swap Brad Slager, eight thirty pm Eastern
Friday nights doing he Said, She said, with the awesome
Riddy Rick. The second Wednesday of every month, the guys

(01:28:24):
get together for Toxic Masculinity. That's at eight pm Eastern
and I bring the drink of the evening. And the
first Monday of every month, Jeff and I get together
and do spirited Books, where we read books that are
a little bit outside of our comfort zone and match
a liquid libation to them. So the next one should

(01:28:45):
be coming up on the seventh, yep, I believe right, Yeah,
the seventh, if not earlier. We have to and I
will be honest, We're going to have to record that
one because I will be traveling, so but yes, I'll
be back for prospiraited books. Thanks so much for joining us, y'all,

(01:29:07):
and we hope you have a greaty thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Bye everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
He man

Speaker 10 (01:29:19):
Giving new am I hadn't taken