He Said/She Said: Games!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:49):
And welcome everyone to you another episode of he said,
She said, I am one of your hosts for this evening, Eggie,
and with me is a very special guest host for
the night, none other than My Spirited Book's co host Jeff.
How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Okay, I think Yeah. I've been on the radio and
air a lot this week. It's familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, I was this week I had for post. I
was going to do four podcasts, but unfortunately Wednesday we
had to cancel all the podcasts, so I'm down with three,
which is manageable.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
True. True, Oh my goodness. Yeah, at least at least
it's Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, at least it's Friday. Yeah. It has been kind
of a whirlwind. And of course my day is going
to be rather interesting tomorrow because it's a special day
in my household.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
And yeah, I heard like someone gets to turn twenty
nine again or something.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Be the thirtieth anniversary. Any nice birthday. But the Aggies
play tomorrow. They're playing the game Cocks. I love say that.
So that's the plan for tomorrow. I'm gonna have a
nice leisurely breakfast and then they play early. They play

(02:23):
at eleven o'clock. So oh wow, yeah, so it'll be
a very nice, easy day. I'm excited. After that, we'll
probably I.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Say it, can it? Can? I say it? Please? I
guess it's an early game because the Cocks are early risers.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh sorry, I'm gonna be laughing about this the whole
day tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
But yes they are, so yeah, yeah, it's gonna be
It'll be fun. I'm my team is nine and oh
and of course there's a lot of people that are
out there. Yeah, but they really don't deserve it. And
I'm like, yeah, but you're full of crap.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
You play the games on your schedule. What I think is.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Exactly I did. You know the school doesn't get to
pick the schedule, and the schedules are done like two
years in advance or whatever. I heard through the grapevine
that there's a certain coach who was complaining about our
you know how, we're going to have it easy for
the rest of the season. And I'm like, and and

(03:44):
they're not, because they're they're coming up on their tough games.
And I'm like, dude, everybody that you're fighting, we already
fought early.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay, yes what yeah, And don't ever say a game
is easy when your butt kicked.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, you may want to like hold back on that
because that's not nice. You know.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yes's when you get your well either either your butt
kicked or you know, you lose a key player or three. Yeah,
you don't. You don't ever hu that gives me hockey
hockey Jeff Shivers. No, you just don't do that.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's kind of like you're not what's the term I'm
looking for? See, this is the problem with being bilingual.
It's like you can hear the term in your head
in a different language, but you cannot directly translate it.
So I don't know. Y'll be We'll be talking about
the rest of this thing and suddenly it'll pop in
my head and I'll break into whatever it is that

(04:40):
we're talking about and then tell.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
You, yep, so just be shared. I you'll love this
speaking of that language cli thing clicking in your head.
I actually heard someone speak Finnish yesterday in Vermont, Yes what, Yes,
at a grocery store. So, I mean, I know they're

(05:02):
doing the tourist thing, so but it was so funny
because they're walking by and it's it's older gentlemen, and
I'm guessing his wife probably nine or ten years younger
his age. I'm hoping it was his wife. They were
a little too intimate to be, you know, father and daughter.
But yeah, he said something and I just started laughing

(05:23):
without even thinking, and he looked at me and I
just gave him that little nod and a little bit
of a smile, and he just started laughing as well,
because he was saying something rude about another person in
the grocery store.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh yeah, isn't that funny. The first words that we
learned in any language are the rude ones, yes, but
those are the ones who are going to be using
the most, so you know.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And it was so funny because they were speaking English
up until that point when they dropped the finish no,
basically the word for asshole, pardon my French, finish English
or whatever. So when he said I just started laughing,
and because I wasn't expecting it, because here he was
speaking English, he had they had no definitive finish, you know,

(06:13):
they were real, you know kind of vibe. So I
was like, hum, okay, I just gave myself away. And
when I turned around, he was he was looking at
me and laughing because well, he wasn't wrong either.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Too funny. That's kind of cool though, that you actually
got to hear the language you've been learning for a
while and understood it well.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's it's interesting because Rockport, Massachusetts has a large Finnish population,
and there are a handful of Fins in Vermont. You
just rarely hear it ever spoken. Like, I know a
handful of people I would wager they speak Finnish, but

(07:02):
I've never heard them speak it, so I don't know
for sure, but I know I know they're at least
eighty percent finish. So to actually hear it out out
in the wild just threw me caught me so far
off guard. I was like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah. It
cheered me up the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm sure that was yeah exactly. That was an unexpected
gift in a way, Yes, and a validation of your
hard work.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
So yes, because I still have trouble speaking it.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, you know, I can understand a lot of German,
but speaking it, I actually had to I have to scream.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah I do.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's a very guttural language, and so I remember when
I lived there and I was learning it. It was
so hard for me to learn it because I kept
lapsing into French, and I'm like, this is not gonna
work because it's a completely different family of languages. And
it was tripping me up and everything, and and my
girlfriend told me, it's like you just have to yell

(08:08):
more when you speak to German, yell more and it
comes a lot easier to you. And I started doing that,
and damned if you was right.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, almost like pseudo angry when you have when you
start to speak it and then all of a sudden,
it just starts flowing. It's weird.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Okay, I'm just gonna interrupt here, but this past role
home repair, the toilet betrayed, you pay one hundred and
fifty dollars. That is so true. It's so true, it's
not even funny.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I may have put a few in there to try
to break you into during the show.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, I'm sure that I will be. I just hope
I'm not drinking my doctor pepper while i'm that.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I think I get an automatic one hundred dollars on
the game board if that happen.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Oh man, this is gonna be so much fun tonight.
We are chatting about our favorite board games when we
were younger, and it's sad. I had to have like
that cut off. If if I'm like in my late teens,
it doesn't count. So I had to have that cut

(09:26):
off right like before sixteen.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
And we didn't kind of like with Spirited books, we
didn't talk about what rule set we were putting in
our own brain. But mine was I had to start
playing it prior to turning sixteen. Doesn't mean I, you know,
there's a few one here that I still play, but
I had to start when I was at least, you know,
younger than sixteen. So that's that's how I kind of

(09:51):
debut up my list. It was kind of funny when
you were telling me that you were like, yeah, just
from the younger years, Like cool, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Because I was just like, so uh, I mean like
some of these were didn't come out until like after
I was buried, and I just that's not young, so
not for me anyway. So yeah, you know, mid teens
and below that that was That's where I feel was

(10:24):
that was more of the comfortable board game that was
before the whole advent of PC playing. You still had
you still were playing dungeons and dragons from books, yes,
you know, and so heck my Dungeons and Dragons group
actually had another group that they would mail, you know,

(10:45):
to each other, right the instructions or whatever was happening.
They would actually mail it and it would take like
three days to get there, and then then we'd do
something and then they would mail it back, you know.
So it's like it takes like a whole week.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
To make one move I did. I did a feudal
campaign where my players were running cities. So at the
beginning of the month, I gave them a list of
things that were happening in their town for the month

(11:19):
and they had to respond to it. And then once
I got everyone's results, I compiled a large format story
so everyone, you know, knew what was going on. And
then like if Town A was getting ready to fight
Town B, but they needed certain weapons they would buy
from Town C, I'd have to email. You know. This

(11:41):
was when the email aged, so I would either call
them up on the phone or email say, hey, this
is what the player wants. I need you to, you know,
give me an answer before you file out anything. And
you know, so there was some phone calling and some
other stuff that took place, but it was so much
fun on the grand scale, like that I never got
the chance to do the play by male game that

(12:04):
I imagine that would have been awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think it was. It was cool because my ex
boyfriend was the master and he would come into the
band hall and the band hall we had an orchestra hall,
a choir hall and a band hall, but there was

(12:27):
a congregate area in the middle where all of the
kids hung out or whatever, and so we would come
in and all of the band geeks were there by
the time I got there for orchestra hall before school
so that I could practice. And I remember seeing my

(12:47):
my my ex boyfriend before this was even before we
started dating, and he was like telling everybody's like, yeah,
we should be getting the letter today, hopefully it'll get here,
and once we did, we can your campaign and blah
blah blah all this stuff, and everything was going over
my head because I wasn't I wasn't in his group.

(13:07):
I didn't know that they had an out of town
group that they were doing this with. So I got curious.
I went and asked, and I was like, but it
takes so long because it's you know, male, and he's like,
you have pen pals all over the world. Why are

(13:31):
you complaining like, yeah, okay, that's fair because it was
through him that I met my French pen pal. So
because he was a dual citizen Friends and United States,
and so it was through him that I met my
French pen pal. And that's how he knew that I
had pen pals all over the flow. Yeah, and then

(13:56):
you know, two months later we were dating. Who knew
and then I got to do his game and it
was really cool. It was it was it was neat,
but but yeah, I mean this was before we had
the you know, Richard Garrett came out with the Ultimate
two stuff, and nobody had PCs yet, nobody that was

(14:20):
a brand new thing. Most people didn't have that yet.
So board games were still very popular when we were younger,
and they still are today. You still you know, you
still go to the you can find them almost anywhere.
You can go to Amazon. My god, there's some board
games from all over the world that you can buy.

(14:40):
But you go to Walmart and you can find standard
board games all the time. Yes, yes, and some are
fun and some have become a little racy, like you know,
Cards against Humanity. That's that's probably one of the newer.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Risque h and if you've never shown up to a
game night from Oh god, what was that social site
that used to offer gut not hookups for dating, but
hookups for meeting people? I can't remember. First one I
ever went to was at a pub called Salt Hill Pub,

(15:17):
so it was Irish based, and they were playing cards
against Humanity and there were like eight people there and
holy crap, can you pick up what everyone's belief is
within thirty minutes?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh? Really?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes, especially around here? Yes, like holy crap, but yeah
that you know, it's funny you say that because one
of my one of the five on my list, has
a computer tie in for me, but not the way
the board game actually played. And I I got my

(15:58):
first computer in nineteen seventy nine when I was eight,
and I remember playing games on that and thinking, oh God,
just give me the board game, Just give me the
board game. And then it's funny. However, over the age,
it's like, Okay, do I want to do I want
to dig the board game out? Do I want to

(16:20):
do this? Do I want to do that?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, it'll be I think it'll be fun. Listen, hopefully
everyone in chat will join us with dropping some of
their favorite board games and whatnot from their youth.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh yeah, Eric, already he dropped a risk in there,
And of course al brought up one of my mother's
ultimate favorite game was Partisi. That woman could beat us
into the ground in that game, and we never could
figure out, how could you? I mean, I guess it's

(16:54):
the only game that I ever saw her play. Well,
no Monopoly. I saw her playing Monopoly, but she wasn't
too keen Monopoly, but came to Part Cheesy. It was
like my grandmother with Bengo. You just didn't get in
her way.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So fingers could be lost.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yes, And so I went in knowing I was going
to lose this game. Every time I played with bomb,
I went in knowing I was going to lose. My
sisters always made a big deal about it. Is like,
you know, Mom, we're trying to learn and blah blah blah.
I'm like, and she says, all you have to do
is read the instructions, you know, and we would, and

(17:34):
still it was it was like it was useless. She
she was going to beat us. We just had to
resign ourselves to it. Yeah, And so in the event
that my mom actually does move in with us, I
actually went out and bought part cheesy. I've already told
everybody I bought the board game. We're all going to lose.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's too funny.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, yeah that you know, looking in hindsight, my mother
was not going to be She was never one of
those that encouraged you to try and win. She went
out to beat you and then make you think about
how you could beat her. And I never did. I
could never beat her at this game. But yeah, she

(18:26):
was not a participation trophy mom never. So anyway, I
guess we should start with our list.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yep, we'll go. I guess five to.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
One, Yeah, and you go first.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Okay, the first one, number five on my list is Battleship.
And I used to play this game with my older
sister all the time, and we ended up at one point. Well,
I mean, Battleship can get stay well after you know,

(19:02):
the twentieth or thirtieth time you play it, especially when
you discover your sister's patterns. So we decided to incorporate
an advanced rule, which took a game from like thirty
minutes to up to two hours sometimes to play. And
looking back, I realized I haven't played advanced Battleship with

(19:24):
my son yet and I need to because thinking about
talking talking to you about the show Thursday, I was like,
you know this is yeah, I need I need to go,
I need to go do this. But what we did
when we were playing battleship, we changed a rule. So
say you sank one of my ships. When that happened,

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you pulled out a six sided die from another game,
rolled it, and you could move one undamaged shipped ship
on your board to a new location and by the
number of spaces that you rolled on the dice, and
that did include previous hits. Huh, So previous hits were

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not off the board. So if you you know, you
you said a four and it was a miss, you
could park a ship on a four, you know in
the other areas, and then they would have to reguess
a four. So nothing was off the board. Ever, so
as long as you kept sinking in your opponent's ship,
you got to move an undamaged piece. And let me

(20:36):
tell you, when you get to move that little two
pieceer around and you can move it up to six spots,
you can really make the game go a long long time.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
What was the longest that you played that game.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I know at one point we had to close our
board because of bedtime and had to play it again
the next night, and usually that meant from seven thirty
to nine thirty, So I would I would.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Say if I had seven thirty in the morning.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Seven thirty at night till nine thirty night after dinner, okay,
before bed, I would wager the longest game we had,
and that was three and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
That's pretty intensive for a board game.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yes, and it was funny because I remember it because
it was both of our little two peg ships. So
it got to the point when we realized, all crap,
it's our two pegger ship. We basically it was a
brilliant idea about my sister. She removed every piece off
the board that wasn't a direct hit, so everywhere where

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there was a mess, she pulled it off the board
so she could start just basically resetting the game looking
for to pronger. Now, granted, once you got down to
you know, her two peg and my two peg, we
couldn't move the ships again because you could only do
it when you sang someone else's ship. So if you
moved it into a place that was heavy, heavily already

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attacked and missed. You really had to start over with
your mindset to try to sink it. And I remember
she beat me because she got my she got my
two hit right as I had just got her last
or got her piece hit for the first time. So
I would have won the next round if she hadn't

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guessed correctly where my second piece, which direction it was
facing Dan and I remember we laughing our butts off
at that, and it was, you know, like I said,
three plus hours of battleship laughing the advanced rule really
made it fun. Oh, I bet, Plus, what else are

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you going to do on the farm?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wow? This is true bingo. That's what we played on
our phone. Like I said, you didn't get in grandma's way,
So it wasn't exactly playing bingo with my grandma was
more like a test of purgatory. Can you you know,
if you can live through this, anything they throw you

(23:25):
in purgatory is going to be a cakewalk. So I'm
pretty prepared. I gotta say, if I end up in purgatory,
let's let's not talk about the possibility I may not possibility.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, let's not look back at our lives and go, yeah,
that could get me there, that could get me there,
that could get me there exactly exact. So what do
you have as your number five?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
My number five was a game that every time I
went over to my my cousins to visit when I
was I want to say, between six and seven. I
we didn't have board games in my house growing up.
It wasn't until we came to the States that we

(24:09):
were able to. You know, you could go into a
kmart and buy a board game. So back home it
was kind of difficult. But my cousins had board games
and one of the ones that they had was Trouble.
I loved that game. Let me tell you. You have
that tiny die encased in this plastic bubble, and in

(24:33):
your hand is the ability to push that down and
when you let it go, gives this glorious pop, and
that die flies all over the place, and then it
rolls in there and then it lands, and then you
can take your little marker and you can move it
and then you and you're like praying, You're praying for

(24:54):
this one number because you just want to take out
the insufferable. So that is your cousin who has been
teasing you all day about your bangs or whatever, and
so you're praying for that number and you see that
number come up and you see his face and you
just get your little person and you just start going one, two, three.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Far and you elevate the pitch as you're counting.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
It was, it was. It was so mean, and it
was funny because one of my other cousins refused to
play that game because she was scared of the pop.
It just it scared her. And she was older than
I am. She's she was, she's four years older than
I am. But it would scare her. And so whatever

(25:47):
we took out that game, she literally left the house.
She didn't want to hear it at all. So she
left the house. She would go do something somewhere else.
I mean, she would go to a neighbor's house. She
would walk down the hill and go to a little
grocery store. Well it's not a grocery store. It was
just a little store that had candy, it's basically what
they had, and soap, you know. Whatever that house was

(26:10):
like in the Boondogs, So that little place just stocked
like soap and motor oil and candy. That's pretty much
all I remember. I was on the shelves. Yeah, it
was a size literally of a master closet. Okay, so
it's not like it was really a big deal. And

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she would just she would leave until, you know, she
would wait like an hour and then come back. And
if she would hear that pop coming back up the hill,
she'd turn back around and go back down. But while
we were playing, it was our ages didn't matter. It
didn't matter that my cousin was older. It didn't matter
that I was the youngest person there. It didn't It
didn't matter because it was a question of you know,

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baky know, planning ahead, where you're going to play, where
you're going to count, you know which ones you're going
to count, see where you get ahead so you can
go home the fastest or whatever. And so it was
a question of how fast your brain was working to
figure all these steps out. And it was. It was
one of the few times I was able to beat

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my older cousins at anything. And it was just really
cool to see that die in that little dome, you know,
just pop and roll, encased in plastic. It was just,
I don't know, it's silly. Years later, after I had children,

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and I think my youngest one was in kindergarten. I
was at the I was at the PX, and you know,
they all want to go see the toys, so we go.
I always take them to see the toys. And there
was there was Trouble, and I said, you know what,
I'm getting that game. And so I got the game.

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I product home and I said, okay, guys, we're going
to learn to play Trouble. And all my kids were
all excited about it because it had never seen anything
like it, and they all loved the dome. Let me
tell you, they love that plastic dome too. I sat
at the table and I explained all of the stuff
and I said, we're going to go quick ground and
then so that you understand how to where you can

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go and do all that stuff. And so we did.
And I caught myself because I almost said, I think
when we started playing in earnest, my son had the
opportunity to take my youngests and send her back to start.

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And I almost said, oh, let's be nice and you know,
so that everybody can win. And I was like, oh
my god, no, I can't say that.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
So I told my son to destroy her and he
did and of course she got mad, why did you
do that? And of course he said it's those are
the rules, and she's like, fine, I'm gonna get you later,
and so she did. She learned her strategy so that
she could beat him so at that game actually made

(29:27):
them really good players for other games. You know, this
was well before they started video games or I mean,
this was before the advent of the smartphone. This was
before tablets or anything like that. We did have a
home PC, but we didn't have games on it or anything. Yeah,
that's mostly because my husband played EverQuest and so he

(29:51):
didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, okay, ever Crack crack.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
So but yeah, that was I think that was the first.
As a matter of fact, I don't I think my
kids ever played Candyland or you know, the apples I
forget the name of that. And they never played any
of the kid games they played. They started with Trouble
and went from there. And then years later somebody brought

(30:16):
a candy Land and they decided to play it for
one of their birthday parties or something, and they had
a ball with it and I said, where was this
when we were growing up? I said, had I seen
it before? Trouble I would have bought it, but I
saw trouble and I had to get that. Sorry, and
I think we still have trouble here. We still have
the game.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
But yeah, that was satur Day when that popper didn't
pop anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Ah, I you know it. It upset me at my
cousin's because my cousin was not a gracious looser. He
really was not, and he could tell he was about
to win the game, and he slammed his hand down

(31:02):
and it cracked the dome and he blamed me for it,
and my aunt was really upset. I didn't know that
he had blamed me for it. I found out later
because he cracked the dome right, and I was like, dude,
you know, and he's like, I just don't want to
play anymore. Whatever, So we put the game away. Whatever.

(31:26):
I went home, and like the following week we went
over to visit again, and that's when I found out
that he blamed me for cracking it.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh goodness.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And I was not. I was like I wasn't when
I was young. I was not confrontational. I was I
was very, very very I was a doormat. Okay, let's
just put it that way. I was a doormat, and
so I didn't defend myself, and my aunt was very upset.
My uncle was very upset because not becase because it

(32:00):
had been broken, but because I didn't tell them that
I had broken it. And my dad comes in and
I'm just I'm just there and I'm just taking it.
I'm just taking the disappointment, you know. And my dad
comes in and says, what happened. And my uncle, who
is Dad's best friend at the time, you know, they

(32:22):
till till the day my dad died, they were best friends. Yeah,
and my uncle tells him what happened, and he looks
at me, and he looks at my uncle, and he
looks back at me. He looks back at my uncle,
and then he says, if you believe that, I have
a new bridge to sell you downtown, because the bridge

(32:45):
that was there has had been had been broken since
like the hurricane in sixty nine, so it was it
was almost gone. And my uncle was like, what do
you mean. It's like when Aggie breaks something, she will

(33:06):
tell you because she will always take responsibility for it.
And my uncle had to kind of step back and
he was like, you know, she's never actually done anything bad.
She would never you know, you're right, she's she's not
the type to hide anything or whatever. And my dad
asked him, who told you, and he said, you know,

(33:27):
it was my cousin and I said, oh, he blamed
me when he hit it that hard. And my aunt's
like he did what I was like, Yeah, he took
his fist and he just went whack. That's how it broke.
And after that he didn't speak to me for about
three months. So trouble got him in trouble and got

(33:53):
me out of trouble. So there you go. That's yes, Yeah,
he's a sweetheart. Don't get me wrong. He's he's grown
past all that. But because it was very hard for
him being the only time, he was the only male
in that family too and be and he was always

(34:15):
surrounded by women because there were there were three of us,
you know, on my mom's side. My mom was pregnant
with my with my sister at the time, and my
brother came seventeen years after I was born, so it's
not like, you know, there's a lot of males in
my Yeah, but yeah, that was you know, trouble got

(34:42):
him in trouble. So yeah, that was my number five.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Nice, Yeah, I mean leads me. That leads me to
my number four. And I have a feeling some in
chat going to hate me for this, but it is
nineteen seventy seven ABC's Monday Night Football. I a little

(35:14):
Vinyl record player where one player would pick the offensive disc,
put it in the player, and then the defensive player
would spin it to get the defense they wanted to run.
Then you would push the disc down and it would
tell you the play that was being ran. And then

(35:37):
on the board you would move the football you moved
the down marker. You would update scores as needed when
you scored. My sister, older sister before she went mental
for Christmas about fifteen years ago, found all the pieces

(35:59):
to this and put a set together for me. Now,
this is the greatest game ever because of the vinyl
disc a little record player. But there was one play
in particular that I am going to give severe PTSD
two to anyone who's ever played the game. With the

(36:19):
following hand off to the halfback, lateral to the quarterback
fleave flicker passed down. There was one disc that was
long pass that if you put play short run that
is the play that resulted from it. Get burned twice

(36:43):
in one game with that, and you never play short
run defense again. So then on the offensive side, you
just keep running short runs until they finally play do
a play to stop the short run. Then you keep
doing it and you end up giving up three, you know,
three and out, you punt the ball and then you

(37:04):
do the flea flicker one more time to get your
third touchdown of the game. My sister freaking hated me.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, but oh my god, the game and and and
the great thing is it could actually be a solo
game because you could put you put your offense in
and you could spin the disc so you never knew
what defense was being played. Then you'd push it down
and it would tell you the results. So you could

(37:45):
actually play the game one player if you wanted to.
And that's actually what happened when after she went and
joined joined the army. I kept playing the game by
myself and having fun. And then when it was my
turn to be defense, I would put all of them
in a box, hide it, and you know, make sure
the defensive side was showing me so I didn't know

(38:08):
what offense was played, and then I would pick the
defense and do the same time.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I had no idea until tonight that this was a
board game. Yes, I learned something new today.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I mean it had got It had had the
special teams like the punt and the kickoff and the
field goal disc, and then it had like ten to
twelve different game play disc and each one I think
had eight to ten defenses that could be ran. So
you know, when you think about it, you had a

(38:48):
good seven eight hundred possibilities. So it actually required a
good bit of strategy of developing what kind of offense
you were going to pla and try to not have
your opponent pick up on your pattern. It was it
was great, you know. And like I said, with the

(39:09):
little football with the it had a little ten ten
yard overlay, so you could move the football back and
forth on the field and know how far away you
were from the first down, and you really had to
strategize like a like a real football game. But on
the board, all crap, I'm you know, at second down
and seven, I'm at my own four yard line. I

(39:32):
know there's a couple of plays that are seven or
eight yard sacks. So I don't want to play this pass.
I don't want to play this offense. I don't want
to play this, let's run this one, but they are
they going to know I'm going to do that offense.
So it if you were playing with someone intelligent, and
it actually really became a great strategy game that you
also got to play Little Vinyl dis cliff Yup. Did

(40:01):
I lose you?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Nope? I'm here.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Okay, Sorry, okay, sorry my screen hiccup. That was weird.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Okay, but yeah I did too.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I I enjoyed the crap out of that that game.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
And yeah, I just it blows my mind that that
was a board game, because I mean, you know NFL
from EA Games, the video the video game that they have,
John Madden, all of this stuff, and I did not
know that these physical games were actually translated to board games.

(40:39):
That's that's wild to me.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
And this this, the seventy seven version, was actually the
update that the original game was released in seventy one.
But then ABC Monday Night Football became this thing and
they got to put all the banners and all the
you know special right you know ABC, you know which
ABC Sports? You know? Yay, So it became a lot

(41:03):
more popular. But yeah, it was got it. I still
get those the member berries from being cursed at and
having the disturn at me because I did the fleet
clicker the third time in a game.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Ah, that's too funny.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
So I guess that leads us to your number four.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yes, my number four is none other that that good
old standby scrabble. And I enjoy this game so much,
so much so that I actually fashioned a coffee table
that had a built in Scrabble gang. And years later

(41:50):
it's a thing. Somebody actually mass marketed something similar and
now you can actually buy that and it comes. You know,
there's a glass top for it, so you can use
it as a coffee ta but to remove the glass
stop so that you can play. It's really cool. But
I loved Scrabble was one of my favorite greams growing up.

(42:13):
When we first moved here. It was the first board
game that my parents bought for the express purpose of
teaching us spelling because we were learning English, we were
learning a whole new language, and so my dad decided
that Scrabble would be a fun way for us to
actually learn new words English words you know and you know,

(42:38):
And we would play the game at least three nights
a week with Dad and mom there was always a
huge dictionary on the table because Dad was going to check.
He was going to check, right, and then he made
us check and that was even cooler because we became

(42:59):
the guardians of the dictionary. This dictionary was huge, by
the way, and it was one of my dad's favorite possessions.
We always thought that it was a grand book. We
didn't know what a dictionary was. I mean, technically, we
knew that there were words that were put in a
place with their meetings and you went to look them up.
We get that, but we thought you had to go

(43:21):
to the library to do all that stuff, okay, and
there it was, you know. Then we found out, oh no,
we've had the power all along in this grand book.
And then when Dad would actually you know, he would
he when we first started playing, he was one checking
and then he made us check so that we would

(43:42):
learn the correct spelling and pronunciation of the word that
we were putting down. And that actually helped my sister
and me learn English faster. I mean, we were we
had incentive. Don't get wrong. My dad told me if
we didn't learn within a year, he was shipping us

(44:03):
back with my grandmother. And I'm like, yeah, that's incentive
to stay here. I'm going to learn I Hell, if
he wants me to learn you know, Russian, I will.
I will do so in a year, just to stay
here because I do not want to go back with
my grandma. I. So you know, that was an incentive.

(44:26):
He actually he worked with us to learn English and everything.
And of course, you know the little things that dad
kind of wanted us to keep doing was we would
watch the news, because the news were talking to us,
and Sesame Street talked to you. They didn't talk to

(44:46):
each other much. They talked to the viewer, you know,
when they were teaching you about the letter, or teaching
you about the number, or teaching you a song, or
teaching you whatever, they were talking to you. So that's
why my dad told us that those are the two
things that we should watch every day. And then we
would play scrabble and everything. And I do think that
playing scrabble actually helped me to learn English a lot faster.

(45:11):
And it has you know, we, I mean all of
my sisters and myself, all four of us grew up
playing this game. It helped us with our language proficiency,
and on top of that, we became so good at
it that my dad stopped playing it, Like I mean,

(45:35):
he just said, no, y'all get too crazy with words
that even I don't want to look up. So y'all
play and we would go, you know, whenever we visited
for Christmas or Thanksgiving or whatever that was. You know,
when I would bring out the scrabble board, my dad

(45:55):
would actually get up, it's getting a get noisy in here.
I'm going back to my room and he would sleep
because we would start screaming at each other like that's
not a word, Yes, it is a word. And then
we would take the Sacred Dictionary from the bookshelf and
put it there and we would look it up and
everything it was, you know. And we did that all

(46:16):
the way up until a couple of years ago when
my parents started actually going to my sister's for Christmas instead.
So that's something I really missed because it was like
we would sit down and the Sacred Book was there

(46:36):
next to us, and you know, and we would start
arguing about it. And the worst one was Sister number
three because she she's a librarian, okay, and so, and
she's an avid reader. She knows all these words right,
and she would just throw some some shit out there
and I'm like, girl, you threw that in a blender.

(46:58):
There is no way that's a word. Totally a word.
Look it up. And she would pass the Sacred Book
and I would look it up and I'd be like, yeah,
it's a word, but it has. I have very fond
memories of Scrabble and it's probably the one board game

(47:19):
that I recommend parents play with their children when they're
very young, because it does incentivize kids to increase their vocabulary.
And even though now we have the Dictionary in our
phones and everything, I really think that it's more advantageous
to have the Sacred Tone next to you because it

(47:42):
does it makes it deeper and heavier, and you can
just you know, it introduce the kids to actually looking
things up the old fashioned way, flipping pages, looking at
different words and everything, rather than looking at a phone
where most parents have here play on my phone, you

(48:04):
know that kind of thing. So it's just I'm just
old fashion. We all know this. I'm having issues with
with with X as it is changing all the scrap
on these and I'm.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Like, well, it's funny you say that because as you
were talking about it for for kicks and giggles. I
looked up Finish Scrabble. There is, Yes, there is one
ten point letter in the finish game, and it is

(48:38):
the letter C, the letter C. Yes, eight point letters
are B, FG, and W, and the seven point letter
are D and the O with the umlaut because they
have twenty nine twenty nine alphabet characters, and the the

(49:01):
one pointers are A, I, N, T, E, S. But
the two pointers are K, L O and A with
the umlaut. And I'm sitting here going, oh my god, Yes,
it is so accurate because eight, the eight and ten
point letters B, C, F, G, and W don't actually

(49:25):
exist in the Finnish language, but because they use a
lot of borrowed words, especially the letter F, they're included
in the game. Ah Okay, sorry, I just thought that
was funny because on the not I'm using the Wikipedia Wikipedia,

(49:45):
so God only knows how accurate it is. But the
Wikipedia board for Scrabble actually shows all the languages it's
available in, including Greek, and what the point ward point
are for each each one. And I have never wanted
to buy a collector set of a game before than

(50:06):
buying all like forty eight languages of scrabble.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
I actually saw the Greek one when I was in Crete.
The resort that we stayed at, they had board games
for people to play in the game room, and one
of them was Scrabble and it was in Greek. And
I was like, we can play this, and of course

(50:33):
everybody's looking at me, going it's Greek, and I looked
at them, I know, and you all know the Greek alphabet,
so let's play. And we did. We did American words
but with Greek characters, which was a little hard, but
you know, it made it made people think outside of
the box. It was yeah, yeah, it was neat when

(50:56):
we walked into that resort and we're checking in and
there's no like a bar, it was. It was just
a desk, and so you could see the keyboard. The
kids could see the keyboard, and I swear my kids

(51:16):
don't have filters, and my son just says, that's a
weird looking keyboard. It doesn't have any letters.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Like.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Of course, the guy checking me in was like, oh,
they are letters, They're just in the Greek alphabet, you know.
And thankfully, you know, he explained it to my son,
and so my son was very very curious about it.
As a matter of fact, the following day he really
wanted to know why it was different, and so I
took him down there and we spent twenty minutes with

(51:49):
that young man and he was so patient, but he
explained it to my son and not my son thinks
the greatest thing ever. And I'm like, yeah, just wait
till you see cyrillic I didn't say. I did not
say that. Then that's the goal.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
So that brings us to number three, and that would
be you what do you have for number three?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
This is probably the single game I have played the
longest in my life, not you know, at the at
one time, but I've played since I was a little kid.
And my last time I played it was about two
weeks ago. And that is game of life.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Oh wow, Yeah, that's a that's a ride of passage.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yes, and there is some lore behind this. For me,
I absolutely love the board game, don't get me wrong.
It's where it all started, spinning the spinner so hard
it flies up in the air, bitching and moaning when
when the little plastic piece doesn't hit your your number
directly because it was right in between, and of course

(53:02):
it doesn't hit the number you need. But I also
have enjoyed the crap out of the digital versions. My
my first wife and I when oh god, I forget
what what house it was that we lived in, but
we had our all both of our our office computers

(53:24):
in the same room, and she would be working on
something for the hospital, and I'd be working on something
for my I T company. And occasionally, you know, we'd
include late Friday night and we'd stop and look at
each other, go I want to play Life, and we
sit there and go yeah. And then that meant Mike

(53:46):
Cue to go out and get the bottle of wine,
get the get the glasses. As she would boot up
the game on her computer because it took a little
longer because it was meant more for her work than
my massive computer. And I'd come in and we'd get
down and we played a couple of games of game
Game of Life on the computer, just laugh and have

(54:07):
a good night. And then with my son, when he
turned fifteen, we started playing it One Street on Steam.
And there are still times when you know he's like, Dad,
I'm waiting for my friends to play the game. We're
supposed to play at eight. Now it's late till eight
thirty and I'll look at him and say, hey, you
want to play a quick game of Life? Because the
digital game can you know, it's already there, boots up quicker,

(54:30):
But we still play the board game and we'll just
play play a game and laugh and you know, wait
for the final tallies to be counted. And dude is
beating me in life in more ways than one, apparently,
because he always wins and I'm not throwing the game,
and it pisses me off almost every single time. But
I do. I think back to family night. My older sister,

(54:56):
my little sister who was probably two or three, would
be you know, at the table because my mom would
play and we'd just sit there and we'd laugh and
you know, have popcorn and snacks and drinks. You know,
my moms may have been spiked, especially the longer the games,
when I think it became more obvious, but you know,
we would just sit there and play and laugh, and

(55:21):
you know, we'd we'd have w QCUM ninety six point
seven Higgerstown, Maryland radio playing in the background and we
would just be listening to that and and play in
the game and nothing else when the world mattered, and
it was just amazing and even digitally more so with

(55:44):
the actual still board game, but even digitally now. It
was when my son used to go to his moms
occasionally he would load up his laptop and play over there,
and I'd play a game on sitting here when he
was at his mom's, when we would sit there and
laugh with each other. So it's funny how that game,
even though it has changed iterations and you know, has

(56:05):
a whole bunch of different versions and permeations of it now,
just every time whether digitally or board sits out, I
am a nine year old kid again, and it's so
awesome to to go keep going back to that and
having that same feeling and going, you know, hey, I'm

(56:29):
going to go to college, I'm gonna do this, I'm
gonna do that, and then you know, actually get away
from your real crappy life for a little bit. But
you know, it is one of those things where it's
just like this game still today, all these years later,
still takes me back to that little boy on the
farm late at night, listening to the radio and just

(56:53):
playing it. I love the game.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
That sound like it's a very nostalgic.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Throwback, you know, yes, And I know you're probably shocked
that it's not number one because of all of that,
but the two ahead of it actually do have some
more meaning and interaction. But yeah, this is this is
Little Jeff's favorite game of all time.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Well, I can dig it because I got hired of
playing the Game of Life because I became a philosopher
all the time and I had it. That's neither here
nor there. My sisters were cut throat, let's just put
that way. But no, it's a very nostalgic game, and

(57:47):
it does actually open up doors to the possibilities that
you're going to encounter when you grow up. So I
understand why it was. It's very nostalgic. I'm just glad
you didn't become a philosopher. I mean, like like you know,
up on a mountain somewhere.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
There is Okay. So the Game of Life too on
Steam actually has has a a DLC called lunar Age
that has like the I s on it and you're
you're going through a space age game of Life with
all jobs based around space. So of course you know
I I downloaded that one. Yeah, but yeah, you know,

(58:34):
with all the digital versions, you know you can do
like under the Sea, Superhero World, Frozen Lands, Haunted Hills,
fairy Tale Land. So I do like that about the digital,
but it is still the nostalgia of getting that board out,
setting a spinner up, kind of like you know when

(58:55):
you pick up the kitchen too on and have to
clang it together twice. Every time you put the lifeboard together,
you have to put the spinner in and give it
that mandatory spin just to make sure, and you know,
they Okay, do I need to go get a little
bit of a little can of oil that's rusted and
put it in there for a quiet spin? Or do
I just say screw it and let.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, that's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I guess that leads us into number three for you.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Mine is kind of a weird throwback. I don't see
it played very often, and I'm not sure if it
qualifies as a board game, but it has a board
and it has marbles. But it was Chinese checkers, Oh god, yes,
And that was like a magical thing when it got

(59:49):
open because it wasn't in a box. It was in
a tin.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
The one that the one that you know my parents
got one. Those were my mom's two games, par Cheesy
and Chinese checkers. We actually had a shot at winning
with Chinese checkers, which is why you know, we would
sit down with and so. But for me it was

(01:00:16):
like so neat because all the marbles were so pretty.
They were all in different colors. You know, you had
your blue, the red, the yellow, the green, the black,
and the white. I believe those were the six colors
in that tin. And it just looked so pretty when
it was all set up. My mom was adamant though.

(01:00:36):
She said she would set the whole thing up, but
if it was just the two of us, the rest
was for looks right, nobody was moving. The rest of
it just whatever color she chose, and I chose to
be opposite or whatever. If it was three of us,
you know the same thing. She would set everything up,
but only whoever was playing would play just the one color.

(01:01:01):
And I liked it because you weren't You're not taking
anybody's marbles. You're moving. You either have the single move
or the hop move, but you can't do both together,
so you have to. It forces you to actually look
at that board in a strategic manner. It's not random

(01:01:22):
that you're just moving the marbles to get to the
other point of the star. You want to get there
before the person across from gets to you. So it's
kind of like a you've got to figure out how

(01:01:44):
you can slow them down. You got to figure out
how you can go around their stuff, you know that
kind of thing. And when you're twelve years old, it
just looks pretty yeah, but you're not really looking for
the strategy of it. But when you're playing with mom,
you kind of like, I need to survive this, right,
so so, you know, so you start paying attention to

(01:02:07):
what mom was saying, what she was doing and she
and my mom was very patient when she was teaching
us this game, and she would tell us, Okay, if
I do this, then what do you think? What do
you think you should do? And I would start going
for the for the one marvel I thought I should
and she's like, eh, oh, my hand would go back,

(01:02:31):
so I'd go to another and I would go back,
and then I would go to another one, and if
she was quiet, that was the one that was the
one I was supposed to move. And then if I
moved it in the wrong direction, she would and I
would move it in the other direction, you know that
kind of thing, and then she would ask me, why
do you think I told you to move that way?
And it would force me to actually get into her

(01:02:55):
head to see what was coming and you know, anticipate
what my opponent was going to be doing. But it
was a lot of fun because it was you're not
attacking anybody. You're just wanting to get all of your
little marbles into that point at that point of that star,
and the opponent is trying to do the same thing.

(01:03:17):
It was tricky when it was three people because you know,
you had to get into the one not across. There
was nobody across from you, so it went into the
direction like whoever's to your right, you know that's where
you're going to be going. But it had to move

(01:03:40):
in a weird way. It was. It was so convoluted,
but it was a lot of fun because you know,
like I said, I actually had a shot at winning
playing my mom and two. It was it was so pretty,
It was so orderly, and it was just it was
very pensive. You know, it was not you're not screaming

(01:04:02):
at anybody for for something. You're you know, you're not
breaking the little you know, sacred plastic dome of the
one die, You're not you know you there's you didn't
get angry over this game. It was just purely trying
to get your your your little marbles over to the
other side. And it's a very quiet game. It's a

(01:04:25):
very pensive game, and I think that was one of
the reasons I really enjoyed it. Yeah, so yeah, that
was my number three.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
So I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah, most people don't don't don't play it anymore, you
know they don't, but it's it's still available and every
so often, you know, I'll be mentioning it. And somebody said,
I haven't played in a long time. And my sister
while we were during the summer, we were at home

(01:05:05):
and everything, and I was talking about it and she
asked Mom if she still had the game. Mom said no,
and that she'd gotten rid of it a long time ago.
So my sister went and found that at Walmart, brought
it home and we all sat down to play, and
Mom sat down as she played with it. So there
were six of us playing Chinese checkers, and we were

(01:05:32):
all afraid that Mom was going to beat us a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Oh So, so my number two, because I put a
self imposed rule I couldn't go with what I wanted
to originally go with, and I only mentioned it because
of and some other other conversation going on in chat.

(01:05:59):
But I didn't start playing this game until I was seventeen,
so I couldn't put it as number two, and that
was Flight Leader, so I had to give it some thought.
It's like, okay, well, what was the precursor game for
me before Flight Leader? And as weird as it is,
I have to at number two say Trivia Pursuit. And

(01:06:25):
this game is one I started when I was fourteen,
so definitely you know, teenage years. But what stands out
to me the most is my two best friends at
the time. One mom was an English teacher in the
high school and another one had just gotten back into

(01:06:50):
his life after being ignored from the time he was
like two till the time he was thirteen because she
had other things to do. And it was always funny
because they would often have adult parties around Trivia Pursuit.
Somehow I got to sit in on these games and

(01:07:13):
it was always amazing to me. And I'm sorry this
is gonna sound a little braggadocious, and I don't mean
it too, but it's just it was the truth and
it's what happened. I would be invited to play the
game with the adults. I didn't know later, and I
laugh at it now because they were all quote unquote

(01:07:35):
MENSA members, but I thought they were some of the
dumbest efforts in the world. And I would sit there
and absolutely win every time against these so called educated,
intelligent people. And it was that moment when I realized

(01:07:55):
why all these stupid dumb ass men some members knew
nothing about sports and entertainment. And it was then when
I went, you could be the most intelligent person I know,
but there's always someone smarter than you somewhere else. And

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it was funny because they did. They they talk like
their crap didn't stink. And I'm sitting here, going, you're
not that smart. I'm answering the same questions you are
and sports and entertainment. I don't think you're as smart
as you think you are. And I would just sit

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there and laugh, and then I finally realized my best
friend's dad, he was the one that was secretly smart,
because he would only join in the games when he
knew I was over to visit and hang out with
his son, to watch a movie or play D and
D or get something set up for a game, so

(01:09:04):
he would join the table only if I was able
to play as well. And once I pieced up pieced
on that, I went, oh my god, there is a
strategy to this game. I never picked up on them
as that is knowing where your weak link is and
finding someone who can elevate that area, and eventually it

(01:09:26):
when it went into games like Flight Leader, I was
able to use that pick out the weaknesses of my opponent,
and I ended up using that knowledge I gained from
Trivia Pursuit on the on the hockey rink, uh, learning
where shooters weaknesses were, what were their tendencies? Where where
can I where can I pick them up and go okay,

(01:09:47):
I can bait them in the thinking my top left
side of the net is open and as soon as
they take the shot, pitt done. Gotcha your your toast. So,
in a weird way, that game of trivia Pursuit with
the so called intellects really made me aware of a
lot of other people's fallacies and how to use it

(01:10:10):
in a competitive situation. So that's why I rank it
number two. It taught me some hard truths, hard hard truths.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
That's pretty cool. When you can learn from a game,
it's time well spent. So I think that's one of
the attractions to certain board games.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
And it's funny because I try not to talk politics
too much on any program or whatnot. But what's funny
is the one table, the one that was the English
school teacher. She taught English high school English for thirty
four years and was elected board of education for fourteen
of those years. She made American news news at one

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point for saying something very negative about our current president.
And I remember hilariously looking at that going, you know,
I always thought she was kind of stupid, even though
she tried to play herself. And I had a master's
degree in English, I'm a high school English teacher. Yeah,
but you're still stupid. And I remember this vividly. And

(01:11:28):
like I said, this was only a handful of years
when she made, you know, pub quite American news with it,
and she got removed from the Board of Education seat
from it. And I'm sitting here going how many times
over the years of you were did you lie? You know?
Were you an opportunistic a hat? Because I remember sitting

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at the table one of all things she was handing
out either Ron Paul pamphlets or oh god, who was
that other little guy with the big ears? Oh yes,
she actively campaigned for Ross parout.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Little guy figures. Damn yes, isn't it funny?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
I can remember Admiral Stockdale's name, but not Ross Perot,
and I just remember.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
That's kind of weird. It's always the other way around.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
But yes, but I remember sitting there even you know,
just a handful of years ago, going wow, why were
my instincts right on her. That's not to say I
didn't like her, but I knew. I found from the
age of fourteen one. I understood her personality and her
tendencies from playing trivia pursuit at the at the table

(01:12:49):
with her and usually five other adults in their thirty
five plus range.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Well, playing games, you know, board games can open your
eyes to people's true personalities. I've noticed that a lot,
as you know. When I was little, I didn't notice.
But as we've grown and became adults, the true true
personalities to come. Yes, you know, truth will out in

(01:13:20):
a board game. It will. And I cannot say the
same thing for an online video game, no, because you
can hide behind an anonymous account you can hide behind
the avatar that you have created for this, but on
a board game, you can't hide.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
No, you can't hide at all, especially especially it's I mean,
it's kind of like poker. You just start to read
their face, read their motions, read their that you can't
do in a digital, digital age.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
That is so true.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
So what is your number two?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
My number two? And if anybody knows me, they will
get number two. It's Clue because it's it's the mystery game,
the original mystery game, or at least the original mystery game.
When I was growing up and I played, my parents

(01:14:16):
gifted me Clue for my fourteenth birthday because they saw
that every time I went to the library, I would
check out Agatha Christie, Pete Wowhouse, I would check out
Dashal Hammett, I would check out all of these mystery writers, right,

(01:14:37):
And so my dad paid attention. My mom didn't. She
wanted to buy me a dress, and I was like,
thank god, my dad won out on that one because
I was not I was not a girly girl at
the time, and I just I look like my dad,
and my dad is handsome, but he's a guy, Okay,
So it was kind of a path and I could

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get more mileage out of something else than address. So
my dad bought Clue, and uh, you know, my sisters
were all about it. It's like it's a new board game.
Can we play? And I'm like, absolutely, let's play it.
And so we were on the kitchen table and we're
sitting there and everything we're and we take like thirty

(01:15:25):
minutes to go over all of the directions and everything.
And I leave the directions out and then I hand
out all the little pencils and all the little pads
and I shuffle everything. I take one of them, put
it in the envelope, put in the middle. Okay, let's
go straight off. I want to be Miss Scarlet. And
I'm like, okay, fine, you can me Miss No. I

(01:15:47):
want to be Miss Scarlet. No, I want to be
with everybody. Want all the girls want to be Miss Scarlett.
We're all girls. I said, Okay, we're going to play
it this way. We're going to pick the colors that
we are identified with growing up, because there were four girls.
My mom would dress us similarly but in different colors.
So I got yellow, Number two got green, number three

(01:16:11):
got blue, and number four got red. So number four
gets Scooby who missed Scarlet, and the other two were like,
well that's not fair, and I'm like, I is it
my game? Yes, let's let's do it just just for
the night. Okay, let her be the scarlet so she'll
shut up. So she was seven. So we sat down
and we're playing it and everything, and every time, you know,

(01:16:37):
the clue, we write it down and everything, and and
then so towards you know, I figured it out, but
I was nice and I didn't want to say anything.
I wanted somebody else to figure it out. Yeah it
was my birthday. Yeah it was my game, but I
wanted them to feel good about their deductive reasoning powers

(01:16:57):
and stuff. And so they're all, you know, thala that,
and you know, Sister number two takes a chance and
she does not guess correctly. Sister number three takes a chance,
she does not correctly. Sister number four and Scarlett takes
a chance, does not guess correctly, and they're all getting

(01:17:21):
pretty upset. And I said, okay, well it's my turn
to guess, and so I guess correctly. They all called
me cheaters and never played with me again, and I'm like,
what just happened.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
It's funny you say that because they're my my, my
ex wife and and my amazing step daughter. We're playing
a game and god, I guess EP was three, and
so he was eating at the table they were playing at.
We were at my mother and late mother in law's

(01:17:55):
house and she was in the liver room watching her show,
and I was doing some work in my office and
I came out to grab a drink, looked, went grabbed
the refrigerator, went, you know, to borrow. I'll just say
what Danielle said. You know, missus Peacock did it in
the library with the candlestick, and I gave all three
and fifteen minutes later I hear you dirty son of them.

(01:18:22):
So I'm like, I come out like, is everything okay?
My stepdaughter is laughing her ass off. She's like thirteen
fourteen at this time, laughing her ass off, holding up
the three cards, and it was exactly what I called.
That's I'm going to to the fridge to get a drink.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
My ex wife was like how how and stepdaughter sitting
there looks start looking. He goes, last time we played,
he got two of the three rights. Wow. I was like, well, Wow,
there's only eight options times eight options time eight options,

(01:19:05):
and I about four percent chance of getting it right
every time, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
I just you know, they all got mad at me
and they said they would never play with me again.
And I was like, what just happened. I don't understand
what just happened. And so I was very sad about it,
and my dad said, I'll just leave them alone. They'll
get over it. Well, it actually incentivized sister number three,
the Blue one, to start reading mystery books and she

(01:19:35):
got hooked on mysteries and after that she started understanding
the process of clue. And then because she wanted to
play and I wanted to play well, Sister number two Green,
she decided, Okay, we'll try it again. The sister number

(01:19:56):
four was like she was still too young, so she
wasn't really grasping it yet. But we told her, if
you want to play, that's fine. You can just use
the notepad to make notes and you know, write whatever
you want. I don't care. And so but this happened
like months later. Yeah, that's my game of Clue. Stayed

(01:20:17):
in my room on top of the sh on top
of the dresser for like four months before my sister
actually decided, yeah, I want to play. I want to.
I want to I want to learn. I want to
learn how the process by which people figure out mysteries.
And so she got in and she became really good

(01:20:40):
at it, I mean the whole process and everything she
goes to she does the escape room things, and she
does the mystery walks and all that stuff. She and
hers don't do that, and of course they don't want
to play with her because she's so good at it that,
you know, the escape room lasts like twenty minutes instead
of two hours like where it's supposed to because she
solves everything, and so they're like, no, no, mom, you're

(01:21:03):
going to stay outside. But yeah, growing up, you know,
And that was towards the later end of my child years.
But Clue was just such a great game because it
made you think you had to look for the clues,
you had to use your reasoning to actually figure out
what was in that little packet, and it was a

(01:21:25):
lot of fun. And then, of course, when my sister
would bring her friends over and they were older because
she had skipped the grade, they wanted to play Clue,
and so I would let them play Clue, and you know,
so it be the four of them playing clue and everything,
and I invariably there were some days that I would
hear I'm never going to play with you again because

(01:21:46):
you're just too smart, blah blah blah blah. And my
sister's like, well, that's not very fair, is it. I
you know, we get all the same clues.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Okay, so what was your number? One?

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
I'm gonna get yelled at for this, but it technically
involved a board, dice, and action cards, so in my
mind it counts.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
And I started playing it when I was eleven or twelve.
I was god, I think it was eleven because I
wasn't quite my final year a little league, and that
is status pro baseball now. I ended up playing this
game for twelve years straight, in fact, joining leagues once

(01:22:42):
I got my driver's license to where you know. We
would go to the community center and there'd be eight
to ten people. We'd each have our own team or two,
depending on how the league was set up, and we
would have game night to wear like a like a
baseball and we would play sit there for three to
four hours and we'd play three full baseball games against

(01:23:05):
our one opponent, and then the next week we'd come
back and we'd have different opponents because it'll be a
different team, and we'd all come out and we'd all rotate,
and we'd keep track of the stats. We'd roll the dice.
That it was two eight sided dice, so depending on
what you rolled in the dice and read off the
cards off of which batter or which pitcher, what you
got to roll it was. You know, we'd keep track

(01:23:29):
of all of that. But there was some looking back
now at the golden age of baseball, which for me
is the mid eighties and early nineties. I will never
forget a I got a Kurt Shillings signed player card
one of the box sets I got, which was awesome.

(01:23:51):
He signed like a thousand because he was a big
big board game strategy game player as well. But the
one season Ricky Henderson had like a one hundred and twenty
some stolen bases in the year. It was so funny
because the picture pitcher's card would indicate who who got

(01:24:12):
to play. So say Greg mannix On is on the mound,
his picture card is two to twelve, so the batter
would have to roll on the two side two die
eighth a thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, or sixteen to be able
to play off of his card. Otherwise it was off
the pitcher's card, which is of course favorable to the pitcher,

(01:24:33):
but on Ricky Henderson's card the one year it was
so funny. It was the only card in the history
of the game that had this thing where it said,
if batter hits a single off his own card, automatically
steals second and right beneath it was if batter hits
a double on his own card, automatically steals third base.

(01:24:57):
And I hated that guy because it was my best
friend who was playing as the Oakland Athletics, and I
kid you not. Dude rolled so well. He ended up
dealing with Ricky Henderson one hundred and seventy one bases
one season, and Ricky Henderson hit like three forty five
that year with a whole bunch of walks. Every time

(01:25:18):
the dude got on he stole them. It was it
was like, you know, like halfway through the season, you're
just like take it, go ahead, don't even roll, just
take the damn base. I know you're going to get it.
But it was so fun because I got to take
the stats and go onto my computer and put them
in and create the weekly stat sheets for every game,

(01:25:42):
every player. I was the keeper of the records, even
at age sixteen. So to be trusted by a bunch
of older men and women to be the keeper of
the records was kind of like, all, this is awesome,
but you know, for three four hours, you're sitting there
trying to go trying to strategize like it did with

(01:26:02):
you know, way more detail than the ABC Monday Night
football game, trying to figure out, Okay, this pitcher is
starting to tire because you had to keep track of pitches.
Your brain was just constantly moving in different gears the
entire time you played this, and it was, you know,
always fascinating. And one of the things I remember on
the action cards there was a thing if you did

(01:26:26):
an action and instead of a number, it read the
letters Z. So yeah, letter Z. The entire community center
stopped because you were required to just holler in the
in the in the entire room we got a Z
over here. Everyone would stop, get up, go around that table,

(01:26:51):
and then wait as the game master would pull out
the the the the over, the big chart that has
the special Z category that could include inside the park
home runs, loss of player for the entire year, and
a whole bunch of weird unusual things that have actually
happened in a baseball game but might happen once every
ten to twenty years. So when the Z chart actually happened,

(01:27:16):
everyone stopped to see what the result was. And I'll
never forget the one player was so pissed off because
it was his best pitcher. I think it was Dave
Steve and he got the trying to catch a foul ball,
runs into the fence and is out for the rest

(01:27:38):
of the season. I've never seen a grown man cry
over a baseball board game in my life like I
did that day.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
And you had other grown men and women going up
to him pat namoll on the back going I'm sorry.
And then you know, you get one or two guys
go hey, I got a two eight pitcher. I know
he's not Dave Steve two ten, but I have a
two eight pitcher. I'm willing to trade you for a
second basement. I can't me seriously, Yeah, I love that game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
That's h wow. Well, some people are very invested. What's
the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Weird.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Okay, fine, we'll go with that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
One of them. I have no no qualms.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
They're you know, some people are very passionate of the
games that they're that they play. I I remember my
brother in law playing Request as well, and you know,
he's playing with a bunch of people. I'm taking care
of all the kids because all of the other parents

(01:28:53):
are rating and doing all sorts of stuff. And they
started at noon and around ten o'clock that night, I finally,
you know, asked, hey, I bathed all the children. I
fed all the children. They're all in bed, including mine.

(01:29:14):
So I'm going to go crash in the living room. Okay,
just wake me up when you guys are you know,
when you're ready. I was telling my husband when you're
ready to go home. He didn't hear me. Next thing,
I know, I'm waking up at six o'clock in the morning,
so I can understand that devotion and uh yeah, he

(01:29:35):
he did not notice the time. Apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
No. And it's easy to do at times, especially except
especially in the group because with this game, occasionally you
get something that go with extra innings, and back then
we didn't have the extra inning bolt craft that takes
place now that is absolutely stupid. They got guys around
our own second that either. So you know there'd be
especially if it was the third game in the series.

(01:29:58):
You know some of the other tables and games would
be finished, and you know another table would be going
in the inning thirteen or fourteen, and everyone else has
just come around the table to watch. And it was
like watching, watching or listening to a game on the radio,
because you would hear the players describe, oh, you know,
oh hey, roll to thirteen. Your picture's your closer and

(01:30:21):
eleven so it's off my card and they roll the
dice again, oh, thirty six and they're they're like, oh crap, ass,
Rob dear, I think that's a home run. All no
is his home run numbers and ends at thirty four.
Thirty seven is a strikeout, you know, So you could
hear and feel that the the oh my god, this
is this could be a good number. And then they
when they look at the card again, it's like I
missed by one or two, and you know that kind

(01:30:44):
of atmosphere. So this was what I would call a
group game that I enjoyed because even the game I
wasn't involved when still brought me entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
It does sound kind of cool. I'm not sure if
I could play it. Well, I feel a little lost.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Well, I know, I know at one point there was
a push because they would they made sets on the
legendary teams, you know, like say the forty forty one
Yankees and you know sixty one Yankees, and you know
some of the older teams that you know, the White
Sox from the White Sox scandal. There was a push

(01:31:29):
at one point to bring in the Negro leagues and cards,
which would have absolutely ruined the game because of all
the different positions and some of the numbers that were
put up. I would love to play a game like
that with those set of roles because I still play
online baseball strategy games and build my own lineups and

(01:31:52):
do all that kind very similar to what I did there.
But it's not the same as sitting with that table
with the dice, the action cards, you know, keep track
of the pitches on the board, you know, so at
the if a picture that was rate at two eleven,
they would have eighteen pitches in an inning to start,
and say if they went over eighteen instead of a

(01:32:14):
two eleven or two ten pitcher, they were now to
nine or two ten, they would lose a point, so
the hitters would get a favor. The longer the inning went,
the picture would get tired. It was built into the
mechanics of the game. And to do that on a
tabletop with dice and action card, which just that fascinated
the crap out of me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
I see that. Okay, So I guess I better do
my number one because we're kind of do we have
anything after this or no?

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Okay, no, I'm not producing. It's practically I think we're nothing's.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
On this speak okay, cool?

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Well maybe and front Port Forensics might be on the
mar I haven't seen, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Oh yeah, that's right. They were off last week, but
not this week.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Okay, cool, Okay, So my number one is a standard
and it is I think considered the standard of all
board games today, and that's Monopoly. I have enjoyed playing
this game for many, many years. And of course there
was a time when there were derivations on Monopoly, like

(01:33:33):
your town, your college. Yes, I do have Aggieopoli, and
I do I do. When it first came out, Oh
my gosh, when it first came out, I was in
college and they could not keep that in stock at
the bookstore, and I knew I was never going to

(01:33:54):
get I was never going to get one because every
time they came in, they flew off the shelf. And
at the time, you couldn't really reserve one because there
was really no way. There was no computer or anything
like that, so you have to rely on, you know,
getting there. And I had the good luck of one

(01:34:17):
of my classmates. He actually worked at the bookstore at
the MSc. He knew I was looking for it, and
he told me they just got some in. They're going
to be put up tomorrow morning, but you have to do.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Here's the card I thought of that would make you laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
Okay, that was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Started interrupt back to your story about getting it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
But anyway, my classmate told me that they were going
to have them, and I asked him what's the price one?
He said twenty four ninety five, and I was like,
I think I can swing that now. Okay, twenty four
ninety five is not a big deal in today's prices,
but when you're a broke college student, it's kind of
a big deal. I was a housekeeper for several of

(01:35:13):
the English Department professors and a babysitter for them as well,
So I had saved up like about thirty dollars. I
had thirty dollars cash on hand, and at the time
tax was still like five percent, so yay, I could

(01:35:34):
cover that. I was there at five o'clock in the morning.
They hadn't even opened the doors into the MSc because
they had to open the doors into the MSc before
they opened the doors into the bookstore. So the doors
of the MSc were closed and I was outside and
I was at the security guard kind of looked at

(01:35:56):
me funny, and I was like, I'm just gonna wait here, dude.
And then somebody else showed up, and somebody else showed up,
and somebody else showed up, And so when the EMBSSY
doors opened at six point thirty, I went and stood
right at the entrance to the bookstore. And then I
started waiting again because the bookstore was not going to

(01:36:18):
open till nine. And some of the people said, well,
I'm gonna go get coffee. I was not budget. I
was going to get that game to day. And as
soon as they scrolled up the gate, I ran in
there and I grabbed the first one and I went
straight to the cash register. The cash register was still

(01:36:40):
not up and running yet, so I had to wait
for that to happen, and I finally got my hands
on it. I still own it, and they they've had several,
you know, updates to the Aggiopoli and the Texasopoly and
the all the Opolis for the all the colleges and
cities here and the whatever. But that one is special

(01:37:03):
to me because it's still had the Southwest Conference in it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Oh yeah, So, so one of the former students actually
found out that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
When I was at a I was at a Mustard
not too long ago. He overheard me talking about it,
and he found out that I had one of the
first editions of it, because that was the first year
that they came out with Agiopoli, and he offered me
five hundred dollars on the spot for it. I said, no,
I'm sorry. Aggies will pay bank for nostalgia. I noticed fact,

(01:37:41):
because we're such a devoted fan base to tradition, so
when it comes to nostalgia, yeah, well we'll pay whatever
amount of money. You know, it doesn't matter. But before that,
you know, Monopoly was a game that I learned to
play at friends houses because we didn't have our own set.
It was actually a higher priced game because of the

(01:38:07):
little icons inside were made out of metal. They weren't plastic,
you know, and it was you know, So my parents
didn't have Monopoly until I brought a Monopoly game as
a Christmas gift for everybody one year and my parents
and mom still has that one. But it was always

(01:38:29):
fun for me because all of these streets actually do exist,
but I didn't know that when I was playing Monopoly.
I just thought that somebody had made these up. But
I knew Broadway existed, so, you know, so I just started, well,
that one exists. I know that Broadway exists, but that's

(01:38:49):
not the Broadway that we all know over in New York.
It's Atlantic City. So eventually when I found out what
it was, you know, that it was based on an
actual city, I was like, oh, okay, so these do exist.
And then I kind of wanted to find out what
all of these places were in real life, and I

(01:39:10):
understood why some of these places were cheaper than others.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Yes, yeah, a great lesson, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Yes it is. It's a great lesson. But I learned
early on that if you get all the cheap little
things and then you put houses and hotels, you get
back some money. So oh yeah, everybody was like after
park Place and Broadway. They were all after you know,
Pennsylvania Avenue and whatnot. No, not me. I wanted Baltic Avenue.

(01:39:37):
I wanted I wanted the first row because everybody has
to go past, go so right, So it did it.
It taught me a little bit about real estate. It
taught me about, you know, financial responsibility. And I remember
one year we went to families for Christmas. We have

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been invited for Christmas dinner and it was a family
that I was their main babysitter. So we're playing Monopoly
and everything, and you know, at the end of the game,
we have to count how much money we've made. And
that's how you win Monopoly, right, how much money you win.

(01:40:24):
And I ended up winning by two dollars. Two dollars
I want. And the winter got a pair of slippers
that were shaped like bear feet. I must have had
those slippers for at least ten years before the FuMB

(01:40:47):
got got all creddy and you know, had to throw
them away. But I loved them because that was a trophy.
I won a game and I won one of my
favorite games. I love Monopoly. I have the Disney version,
I have the Aggie version, I have the Texas version,
I have Hometown version. My uncle told me there was

(01:41:10):
a Puerto Rico version, but I never got my hands
on it. I need to get that one. But I
have the Parks version, you know, with all the national
parks I have, I have several different different ones. I
gotta find I gotta find out if there's an East
Texas variant now that I'm holed up in here. But yeah,

(01:41:33):
that's it was. It was like a tie between Clue
and Monopoly, but Monopoly edged it out simply because all
the little icons meant something and it for me, and
you know, everybody wanted to be either the iron or
the shoe, or the top hat or the the you know,

(01:41:54):
the little wheelbarrow or you know whatever. And do you
remember when they replaced one of the icons with something else? Oh, yes,
that'd be national news. Okay, people were pissed, were mad.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
What do you mean, what do you mean taking that
one out? But instead of just adding a piece, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
I mean they took out an old and put a
new one. And I understand that some games would need
updates and everything like that. But again, I go back
to the whole There was a reason why those icons
were chosen, and it was a tradition. And people, you know,
I loved the little shoe. I fought people for the shoe,

(01:42:42):
and people couldn't understand. Why don't you want the top
that the top had is the coolest one? I said, no,
I like to shoot. The shoe has a little handle
and I could. I made it walk. I made it
walk on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Okay, yep. And if you played the race car, you
had to go around every corner.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
So, oh my god, that's that's funny. What a trip
down memory lane. Holy cow, I.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Know it's now. I'm like, you know, I have new
or versus new. I still have board games, and mine
are not as conventional. I guess I tend to go
for less conventional board games. Pente is one that I

(01:43:29):
really enjoy and Othello. I really enjoy Othello. And I
was introduced to a fellow when I was in college.
And I don't know what happened to my game, but
I guess in one of the moves or something that
got lost. So I went out not too long ago,

(01:43:49):
and I said, you know what, I'm gonna go find this.
The only place I finally was Amazon. Nobody else was
carrying it around here. But I got it. I have it,
and I have plans to play that game. So come Thanksgiving,
I'm gonna tell everybody this is how we're going to
figure out who's gonna sit where. We're going to play Othello,

(01:44:12):
and it's going to be it's gonna be like, you know,
like brackets, because only it's two person game, so you
too will fight it off. You too will fight it off,
and the next you know, the winner of those two
will fight it off, and you know, then you get
to sit here. That kind of thing. Yeah, it should
be funny.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Oh my god, that's hilarious. Yeah, this has been awesome.
Thank you, and and I thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
This was your idea.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
I guess it properly, I should think if if she
listens later, Christine, thank you for the conversation that led
to literally I was. I was with a client talking
with her. We started going down the games, and in
the middle of the conversation, I said, hold on a
second and immediately messaged Aggie. And this has to be

(01:45:02):
a future, he said. She said, so It was in
the middle of the conversation, Christine, if you do listen
to this, thank you very much for inspiring us to
do this, because this has been so much fun going
down memory lane.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
It was thank you so much for suggesting it was.
I was sitting here going, oh my, this is so long.
I need to like whittle it down.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Yeah, because you know, I was sitting here going, I
was going, okay, let's do just board games in general.
So you know, probably it's got a trivia pursuit. You know,
I'm thinking number two is Flight Leader. You know, maybe God,
I probably would have thrown in Ticket to Ride Europe
edition because I love taking over Finland. Don't ask me why,

(01:45:53):
but yeah, you know, there's so many good games now
that looking back at some of the stuff that we
did in honestly, how complex some of them were. You look,
I ate age eight to eighty eight, and you're getting
sitting there going, our kids smart enough anymore at eight
nowadays to play this game.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Well, you know Paul who does disasters in making with Brad,
he collects board games. I have been I have acquired
quite a few for him. One of the ones that
I got for him is so rare. It was only

(01:46:31):
made one year. It was made by the Cotton Coalition
of Texas and it was it's called Life of Cotton
and it was specifically made for children to learn the
value of harvesting cotton and how it's an industry. It's
a board game and we weren't a state sale and

(01:46:53):
we're looking at this. That's that says you gotta get that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
For Paul Well, there was a Commodore sixty four game
that had a board that you had to keep track
of stuff with. It was called Oil Barrens and you
had to use your the board the map where you

(01:47:17):
were going to drill for oil or or or search
for oil with, and then it would tell the game
would tell you how many rounds you have to wait
before results came in from your exploration drilling. So you
were using the board. That was Oh god, I love that.

(01:47:38):
I still think that's one of my all time favorite
video games, and I almost qualified it in this list,
but then I realized, no, technically, it's a computer game
that just comes with the board to help you keep
track of everything, so I took it off off my list.
But oh my goodness, that game was awesome as well.

(01:47:59):
So yeah, this this is oh god, this has been
an amazing I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Thank you, it was a lot of fun. Thank you
for suggesting it. And I guess on that note, I
guess we should wind it up since we're like twenty
minutes over.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Yeah, yeah, like we hadn't talked in three months, I know, right,
Like we didn't talk Monday, Tuesday, today, wait, Friday last week.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
I know it's been so long. Anyway, all right, Jeth
where can we find you?

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Okay, well, a little bit of breaking news. You can
find me tomorrow night at ten pm Eastern here on
kaylor In as a special fill in host for juxposition
with Horty. So that'll be a fun episode. I think
we're going to touch on a subject that will well,
actually it's kind of in my wheel, so that'll work.

(01:49:02):
Sunday at six pm Eastern, I'll be on the Vincent
Charles Project. Eight o'clock Sunday, I will be doing one
of my shows. I think it's Lost Wonder, Yeah, it's
Lost Wonder on this Sunday. No, I've been on too
many shows this last week. I've lost complete track and
then I think I'm done for a while. How about yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Well, you can find me and I get the barkeep.
You can find me eight thirty pm Eastern Tuesday nights
doing the cocktail Lounge with the ever Swap Brad Slacker
eight thirty pm Eastern Friday nights doing he said, She said,
usually with the Rittery Rick. The second Wednesday of every month,
the guys get together for Toxic Masculinity. We had to

(01:49:47):
skip it this month due to extenuating circumstances, but that
takes place the second Wednesday at eight pm. And last,
but not least, you and I on Spirited Book eight
thirty pm Eastern. You see a pattern here. First day, yeah,
agy time, first Monday of every month. Thanks for joining

(01:50:10):
us everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
I already have my book and I've already read the
first chapter.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Oh wow, Okay, I have not. However, I did find
my books for January and February, so I'm like ahead
of the curve on those, but I still need to
find my December. Nice anyway, thanks for joining us everyone.

(01:50:34):
We hope you have a great evening and think out
a board game.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Or two exactly. Everyone, have a great Friday night.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
We'll catch you next time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
Day the game.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
Accounts did the

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
South States