August 10, 2025 • 19 mins
Interview by Angela Croudace
When Cursed hit number seven on the Spotify global charts, Paleface Swiss didn't just make a statement — they detonated it into the metal world. For guitarist Yannick Lehmann, the milestone still feels surreal. "It's unbelievable. We're completely DIY, no label, nothing — so to see that kind of success is mind-blowing," he says.
Formed in 2018 as a local Swiss act, Paleface Swiss quickly built momentum in the hardcore beatdown scene before COVID shut the world down. Instead of stalling, the band doubled down, writing two albums and teasing songs online. Their audience was ready and hungry by the time live shows returned.
Switzerland may be known for peace and neutrality, but Paleface Swiss are proud to represent the country's heavier side. "We love being the hardest band from our country," Yannick laughs. Yet the journey wasn't straightforward. Yannick initially joined as a studio guitarist, unsure about committing full-time. Fast forward to 2025, and he's now a full-time musician, having traded carpentry for crushing riffs.
With its raw, live-ready sound, Cursed was born under sunny skies in Spain's Canary Islands, with palm trees, a pool, and nightly darts championships. "We had the time of our lives making it," Yannick recalls. "When we write, we write to play live — raw and powerful." That live energy translates into ferocious shows, whether it's sweaty clubs or on massive festival stages.
Australian fans, he says, match the wild energy of U.S. crowds, with memories of wheelchair crowd-surfing standing out. This September, the band returns to Australia, bringing friends and early inspirations Nasty along for the ride — a full-circle moment for a band heavily inspired by them in their formative years.
Paleface Swiss' Influences range from metal titans Judas Priest and Iron Maiden to Slipknot, hardcore heavyweights, and even dubstep and hip-hop. That genre-blending spirit gives Cursed unexpected textures without losing its bone-crushing core.
Off stage, Yannick stays grounded, valuing personal connections with fans over rock-star distance. And while a mandatory stint in Swiss military service looms after the tour, there's minimal downtime in sight. "We never rest," he says. "There's always something to do."
With their relentless drive and genre-defying edge, Paleface Swiss aren't just rewriting the rules for heavy music in Switzerland; they're smashing them to pieces globally. This Aussie run of shows is one you don't wanna miss! Tickets: https://thephoenix.au/
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.
When Cursed hit number seven on the Spotify global charts, Paleface Swiss didn't just make a statement — they detonated it into the metal world. For guitarist Yannick Lehmann, the milestone still feels surreal. "It's unbelievable. We're completely DIY, no label, nothing — so to see that kind of success is mind-blowing," he says.
Formed in 2018 as a local Swiss act, Paleface Swiss quickly built momentum in the hardcore beatdown scene before COVID shut the world down. Instead of stalling, the band doubled down, writing two albums and teasing songs online. Their audience was ready and hungry by the time live shows returned.
Switzerland may be known for peace and neutrality, but Paleface Swiss are proud to represent the country's heavier side. "We love being the hardest band from our country," Yannick laughs. Yet the journey wasn't straightforward. Yannick initially joined as a studio guitarist, unsure about committing full-time. Fast forward to 2025, and he's now a full-time musician, having traded carpentry for crushing riffs.
With its raw, live-ready sound, Cursed was born under sunny skies in Spain's Canary Islands, with palm trees, a pool, and nightly darts championships. "We had the time of our lives making it," Yannick recalls. "When we write, we write to play live — raw and powerful." That live energy translates into ferocious shows, whether it's sweaty clubs or on massive festival stages.
Australian fans, he says, match the wild energy of U.S. crowds, with memories of wheelchair crowd-surfing standing out. This September, the band returns to Australia, bringing friends and early inspirations Nasty along for the ride — a full-circle moment for a band heavily inspired by them in their formative years.
Paleface Swiss' Influences range from metal titans Judas Priest and Iron Maiden to Slipknot, hardcore heavyweights, and even dubstep and hip-hop. That genre-blending spirit gives Cursed unexpected textures without losing its bone-crushing core.
Off stage, Yannick stays grounded, valuing personal connections with fans over rock-star distance. And while a mandatory stint in Swiss military service looms after the tour, there's minimal downtime in sight. "We never rest," he says. "There's always something to do."
With their relentless drive and genre-defying edge, Paleface Swiss aren't just rewriting the rules for heavy music in Switzerland; they're smashing them to pieces globally. This Aussie run of shows is one you don't wanna miss! Tickets: https://thephoenix.au/
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's up. I'm you Onic from Paleface, Swiss and
I'm super happy to be here with Angelo. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, thank you so much anytime. Congrats on Cursed hitting
number seven on the Spotify Global charts. What does that
kind of success mean to you personally?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's unbelievable crazy, I cannot believe that. So yeah, I
barely find any words to that and super super crazy,
just wow. And we achieved it by ourselves, So I mean,
I don't know if you knew that, but we are DIY.
We have no label, we have, we have nothing we like.
(00:37):
We're working hard on that and to see that success
is just mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, definitely, as you said, to be a DIY band,
it's incredible crazy And Switzerland is known for peace and neutrality, neutrality.
How does it feel knowing Pale Faced Swiss has completely
shattered that reputation?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's good. I think we love what we do and
we love to represent Switzerland as the hardest band from
that that country. So yeah, super nice, I'd say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's awesome. It's so cool. And from supporting Hearts in
Hart's Way to headlining sold out shows globally, did you
ever imagine things would escalate this fast.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Nope, not at all, because I mean we started in
twenty eighteen as a local band and when Sally asked
asked me to to like record some guitars for him,
I was like, yeah, but I don't know if I
want to be like part of that because I have
another band. I had another band going still, so I
(01:45):
joined pay Face as a studio guitarist and now we're
here headlining Australia in September and lowse my mind blows
my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, and did what was the music sort of scene
like for you guys starting out in Switzerland? I can't imagine.
Is there a big metal sort of genre there?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
There there is a very big metal scene, but it's
it's it's it's very local. So there are not many
bands who who blow up, I'd say, because like Switzerland
has no because it's so small. We don't have really
the capacity. We don't have the capacity too to make
(02:30):
make a band big. You know, everything is super expensive.
You have to work hard to live there. And yeah,
and music or general like culture stuff it doesn't have
like it has space of course, don't get me wrong,
but but just for just besides you know, yeah, was.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The huge support for you guys starting out or not really.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like in the scene in the in the in the scene.
Yeah yeah, yeah, like pre pre COVID when we started,
the beatdown scene was was really like blowing up, like
the hardcore beatdowns slam scene was really blowing up. So
we played super sick, sold out like basement shows and
then COVID came and destroyed everything. But during that time,
(03:20):
we we we wrote two albums, like posted shitty videos
with like song song teasers on the internet, and the
people seem to love to love it, to like it.
And when we announced like first shows, first tour, of
the people actually came to shows and wanted to see
us live. So I think that's the that's the good
(03:42):
part of COVID for us.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, the yeah, despite it being a shitty time, you
guys may not work in a way.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, we we just tried to have a good time
in this shit in those ship times and yeah, people
seem to like it and here we.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Are, yeah, and there's so much raw anger and intensity
in Cursed. Was this record cathartic for you guys or
something else?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So when we write music, we try to have the
best time of our lives and we had we had
that time during during the song like writing process from Cursed.
So we wrote the album on Canary Islands in Spain.
We had super nice weather like this. We had the
scene in front of us, We had some palm trees,
(04:33):
we had a pool next to the studio. We watched,
we watched every night, we watched the Dart championship.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, had some beers and yeah, we had the time
of our lives and created that album. And I think
that's the that's how do I say that, that's the
thing when we write when we had, when we had,
when we would have a time writing Curse, it wouldn't
be that good.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'd say, yeah, yeah, yeah, so nothing was. It wasn't crap.
It was a good recording.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Experience, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So yeah, that's awesome. It must have been so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes, it was very nice. Also was it was December,
and December in Europe is like it's winter, so we
had like, yeah, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty five degrees
and yeah, little summer vibes and in winter you know.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Oh, I'm so jealous. And do you guys write with
the live show in mind? Because Curse does feel like
it's designed for a live show?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Big, yes, big, Yes, we write music. Who how do
I say that? When we write music, we write it
to play live. Yeah, so no, no, no big production,
no no, like you know what I mean, Like they
see just yeah, just raw as raw as possible. Of
(06:05):
course some some nice effects, but we tried to write
right as raw as possible.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah. Awesome. And does that mean that you guys get
through laying down the tracks pretty quickly or does it
take quite a few goals to get everything sounding right?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It depends. Like Cursed was was very like we just
like had like part of the part of the part
and it felt like very natural. Yeah. But but then
as an example, I am a Cursed one, our latest single.
We wrote that track over like four or five months. Yeah,
(06:42):
so we like, well we're always like changed a bit
like and tried that out, try that out, and yeah,
so it depends. It really depends.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah. Yeah, And you've toured Europe and the US. How
does an Aussie crowd compare when it comes to bring
madness over here?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'd say an Aussie crowd, as you mentioned that it's
comparable to to a US crowd. Super sick energy, super
crazy people, super nice people, and yeah, we love it.
We absolutely love the Australian fans.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh beautiful. So also this is more of a personal
question from me, but my great grandma was born in
Grenoble in France, near the Swiss Alps. If there's anywhere
in Switzerland that I must go and say, where is it?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Oh, Luthern I have heard, Yeah, I've heard of it. Yes,
I think it's the most beautiful city in Switzerland. So
try that out. And of course Durich, of course Durc
because it's our home. It's our hometown. If I had
to to choose between Syric and Lucerna, I'd say might
(08:00):
go with lucern because it's very beautiful, especially on a
nice day.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Lovely. I can't wait. I hope I get over there soon.
And what's the pre show ritual for you guys?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is it calm and focused or are you punching wolves backstage?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Mm hmmm. We we're we're warming up pretty basic, like
we do some stretchees. We do some vocal warm ups.
Of course, I I warm up my fingers playing some guitar,
and yeah, we just sometimes we listen to some like
techno techno music to hype ourselves up, and we try
(08:37):
to dance a little bit and just try to have
a good time.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, you guys party and what kind of techno what
kind of techno artists do you listen to?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh? Like various artists, just some playlists, press play and
here we go.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, and how about after a show, do you guys
like to rest and recover or do you just keep
the party going?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Mostly it's rest and recover because we were like, we
just played like it feels like we just played headline
shows this year, So we just played. We always played
for an hour and and more so and like and
like every day we played, like literally every day. So
(09:24):
we yeah, we try to rest and get some get
some sleep and stuff. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And what's the wildest thing you've seen happen in a
pale face pit so far?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Mm hmm mm hmm. The wildest thing there once was
a was a wheelchair crowdsurfing. It said this, this was
very sick.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Wow, that's it. You're touring with Nasty another band known
for something brutality. How did that team up come about?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Nasty is or was there since day won? For us?
We listened. We listened to them when when when we
were like kids or like, yeah, young younger people. So
they inspired us a lot. They inspired us. They also
inspired us to to to like form the band, and
they were the first band who took us out on
(10:19):
our actual tour, on actual tour. So because of Nasty,
we're on the road. Because of Nasty, we are a band.
So we're basically best friends. They're super nice, we're and
that's why we we took them out to the US
and also to Australia.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, well, isn't that crazy? So you guys like grew
up listening to them sort of thing, and then now
it's there you're taking them on tour. Crazy insane? Yeah,
what about some of your other influences? What other bands
do you listen to, either at the moment or when
you guys first formed, for for.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Me personally or for the whole. Okay, So I'm I'm
a super I'm super metal head. So I listened to
all the old stuff. I love Juesus Priest, I love
Iron Maiden, I love fucking Boulevard, Evalentine, Trivium Creator, Halloween,
all the all the metal stuff, all the horns up stuff.
(11:19):
You know, so I always try to to to bring
this influence into the into the payface with music. Yes,
and when it comes to like bands who are like
the same, I would say that who who who should
sound the same as we do, I'd say I listened
(11:41):
to like Slipknot or or or I think I just
lives with some basic hardcore bands that say hardcore beat down. Yeah. Yeah, generally,
like basically we get inspired by every genre, like we
also got We also got inspired by like a like
a like a like a dop step track for one song,
(12:05):
and of course like rap and hip hop artists and
soft rock and alternative rock, like everything, everything inspires us.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah. I can really hear it in this album too, because,
as you said, there's different genres in there. It's not
all just really heavy. There's certain parts that do you
have a more like electronic sort of sound as well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Right, That's what we love, That's what we love. We
love to experiment, We love to bring genres together, and
I think it works pretty well. But we always try
to stick to the route, you know, like to the
heaviness and like try to mix everything, and yeah, sometimes
it's it's very sometimes it's very hard to be honest,
but yeah, we try our best. Nice, we do it well, well,
(12:49):
thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
We get six shows this run. Is there any chance
that you'll get off the plane and be able to
see some wildlife or is it straight to sound check?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Fingers crossed? And I would love to do that. We
we we went to a sanctuary the last time when
we were in Melbourne. That was really nice. But yeah,
most of the time it's it's yeah, going to sound
check and like explore the the area from the city
where we are and on and on off days and
(13:22):
I think there are some off days on that tour.
We try to like explore as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, awesome. And from your last time, he was there
any memories that really sticked out to you.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'd say like being being on the other side of
the world in general for me was very like and
also for for being in in Sydney, because Sydney is
is like a world city, you know what I mean.
And when we when we are when we visited the opera,
it was like, I I realized, I'm what I'm here?
(14:00):
What it's crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh that's lovely. Sydney is the best best city in
my opinion too, Okay, all right, nice, No, that's everywhere
is beautiful. But yeah, I'm from Sydney.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So okay, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And the production on Curst is massive. Who did you
work with on it? And how important was capturing that
live energy in the studio?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So we always worked with Flow from Landmarks, the singer.
He produces us since chapter two, so he he knows
her sounds super good and we know how how he works.
So I think that's that came naturally that because the
collaboration was was there ever since? No? And yeah, he
(14:46):
just knows us.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, oh beautiful home About the exact moment when you realize, okay,
this is no longer an underground band, We've really made it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm not sure if there wasn't a moment, because it
came like sign yeah, because like, how do I say that?
I can't find the words. So until twenty twenty five,
we were we were still working normal day jobs beside
that project. And from twenty twenty five on we realized, so, hey,
(15:21):
there's no longer time to like work as like as
for me as a carpenter for the others, as as
a as a plumber and stuff. So yeah, we were
always we are always we were always working so hard
for that band, and to say to now say I'm
I'm a full time musician is super crazy. So but
(15:43):
I don't know if there was an exact moment, you know,
because it came like silently yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And how has your relationship with your fans evolved since
the early show is? Do you think they're getting more
intense or more loyal or both.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Or I think both. We we always try to have
like a very personal relationship to our fans, so we
and we don't want to be We don't want to
feel like rock stars. We want to be like the
We're just normal humans making some heavy music and have
then try to have a good time. So please just enjoy.
(16:19):
I think that's our that's our that's our goal with
our fans.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Beautiful. And what's the coolest or weirdest thing you've been
given to by a fan?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I got, I got a gifted and an alligator had
by two US fans, a real real alligator head. Oh,
because crocodiles in general are my favorite animals. So oh
there you go.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, Oh that's insane. Have you been in America? Did
you get to go on the tour down in Mississippi
and say that the alligators.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
We went to. I went in Florida. I went to
a big wildlife no to like a big like natural
like yeah, no, no, not really sential. It was just
like a nature park and there I saw some like
like wild white alligators. And we also get to visit
(17:18):
the Florida the Orlando Gator Land where all the gators are,
so yeah, super super lovely awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And you've sorry, you've played huge festivals and small clubs.
Do you prefer the controlled chaos of tight sway venues
or the scale of a big stage.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Mm hmm, It depends. I think it's the best of
both worlds. Let's say yeah for me. For me personally,
I love the big shows because there's we have space
on stage there, we can bring production, we can bring
a sick lide show, maybe some pyro, so yeah. But
I mean the small club shows are also part of
(18:02):
the of the whole thing. So best of course words.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I feel like it'd be like the smaller shows, the
more intimate, so you get to really feel the energy
of the crowd. But again with the big shows, you
get to feel that intensified as well. So yes, yeah,
and when this tour is done. What's next for payofface Swiss?
More recording or maybe a much needed nap hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There we never we never rest, so there's there's always
something to do. But of course the after September we
will we will try to write, We try to write music.
I have to go to military service because it's mandatory
in Switzerland. Oh so yeah, so just like a little bit,
a little bit of a break, but not really, you.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Know, straight to military service. Oh my goodness, how do
you feel.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It's in November, so I have some some time in
October to to rest.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Good good And how are you feeling about that? Alright?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Or it's normal for a Swiss man, I'd say, because yeah,
every everyone has to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So wow, interesting, beautiful all right, Yannick, thank you so much.
We're so excited to see you guys here in September.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Thank you so much for your time, Thanks for having
me and see you and Sydney, I guess Sydney, thank
you
Hey, what's up. I'm you Onic from Paleface, Swiss and
I'm super happy to be here with Angelo. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, thank you so much anytime. Congrats on Cursed hitting
number seven on the Spotify Global charts. What does that
kind of success mean to you personally?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's unbelievable crazy, I cannot believe that. So yeah, I
barely find any words to that and super super crazy,
just wow. And we achieved it by ourselves, So I mean,
I don't know if you knew that, but we are DIY.
We have no label, we have, we have nothing we like.
(00:37):
We're working hard on that and to see that success
is just mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, definitely, as you said, to be a DIY band,
it's incredible crazy And Switzerland is known for peace and neutrality, neutrality.
How does it feel knowing Pale Faced Swiss has completely
shattered that reputation?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's good. I think we love what we do and
we love to represent Switzerland as the hardest band from
that that country. So yeah, super nice, I'd say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's awesome. It's so cool. And from supporting Hearts in
Hart's Way to headlining sold out shows globally, did you
ever imagine things would escalate this fast.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Nope, not at all, because I mean we started in
twenty eighteen as a local band and when Sally asked
asked me to to like record some guitars for him,
I was like, yeah, but I don't know if I
want to be like part of that because I have
another band. I had another band going still, so I
(01:45):
joined pay Face as a studio guitarist and now we're
here headlining Australia in September and lowse my mind blows
my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, and did what was the music sort of scene
like for you guys starting out in Switzerland? I can't imagine.
Is there a big metal sort of genre there?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
There there is a very big metal scene, but it's
it's it's it's very local. So there are not many
bands who who blow up, I'd say, because like Switzerland
has no because it's so small. We don't have really
the capacity. We don't have the capacity too to make
(02:30):
make a band big. You know, everything is super expensive.
You have to work hard to live there. And yeah,
and music or general like culture stuff it doesn't have
like it has space of course, don't get me wrong,
but but just for just besides you know, yeah, was.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The huge support for you guys starting out or not really.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like in the scene in the in the in the scene.
Yeah yeah, yeah, like pre pre COVID when we started,
the beatdown scene was was really like blowing up, like
the hardcore beatdowns slam scene was really blowing up. So
we played super sick, sold out like basement shows and
then COVID came and destroyed everything. But during that time,
(03:20):
we we we wrote two albums, like posted shitty videos
with like song song teasers on the internet, and the
people seem to love to love it, to like it.
And when we announced like first shows, first tour, of
the people actually came to shows and wanted to see
us live. So I think that's the that's the good
(03:42):
part of COVID for us.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, the yeah, despite it being a shitty time, you
guys may not work in a way.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, we we just tried to have a good time
in this shit in those ship times and yeah, people
seem to like it and here we.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Are, yeah, and there's so much raw anger and intensity
in Cursed. Was this record cathartic for you guys or
something else?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So when we write music, we try to have the
best time of our lives and we had we had
that time during during the song like writing process from Cursed.
So we wrote the album on Canary Islands in Spain.
We had super nice weather like this. We had the
scene in front of us, We had some palm trees,
(04:33):
we had a pool next to the studio. We watched,
we watched every night, we watched the Dart championship.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, had some beers and yeah, we had the time
of our lives and created that album. And I think
that's the that's how do I say that, that's the
thing when we write when we had, when we had,
when we would have a time writing Curse, it wouldn't
be that good.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'd say, yeah, yeah, yeah, so nothing was. It wasn't crap.
It was a good recording.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Experience, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So yeah, that's awesome. It must have been so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes, it was very nice. Also was it was December,
and December in Europe is like it's winter, so we
had like, yeah, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty five degrees
and yeah, little summer vibes and in winter you know.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Oh, I'm so jealous. And do you guys write with
the live show in mind? Because Curse does feel like
it's designed for a live show?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Big, yes, big, Yes, we write music. Who how do
I say that? When we write music, we write it
to play live. Yeah, so no, no, no big production,
no no, like you know what I mean, Like they
see just yeah, just raw as raw as possible. Of
(06:05):
course some some nice effects, but we tried to write
right as raw as possible.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah. Awesome. And does that mean that you guys get
through laying down the tracks pretty quickly or does it
take quite a few goals to get everything sounding right?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It depends. Like Cursed was was very like we just
like had like part of the part of the part
and it felt like very natural. Yeah. But but then
as an example, I am a Cursed one, our latest single.
We wrote that track over like four or five months. Yeah,
(06:42):
so we like, well we're always like changed a bit
like and tried that out, try that out, and yeah,
so it depends. It really depends.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah. Yeah, And you've toured Europe and the US. How
does an Aussie crowd compare when it comes to bring
madness over here?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'd say an Aussie crowd, as you mentioned that it's
comparable to to a US crowd. Super sick energy, super
crazy people, super nice people, and yeah, we love it.
We absolutely love the Australian fans.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh beautiful. So also this is more of a personal
question from me, but my great grandma was born in
Grenoble in France, near the Swiss Alps. If there's anywhere
in Switzerland that I must go and say, where is it?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Oh, Luthern I have heard, Yeah, I've heard of it. Yes,
I think it's the most beautiful city in Switzerland. So
try that out. And of course Durich, of course Durc
because it's our home. It's our hometown. If I had
to to choose between Syric and Lucerna, I'd say might
(08:00):
go with lucern because it's very beautiful, especially on a
nice day.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Lovely. I can't wait. I hope I get over there soon.
And what's the pre show ritual for you guys?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is it calm and focused or are you punching wolves backstage?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Mm hmmm. We we're we're warming up pretty basic, like
we do some stretchees. We do some vocal warm ups.
Of course, I I warm up my fingers playing some guitar,
and yeah, we just sometimes we listen to some like
techno techno music to hype ourselves up, and we try
(08:37):
to dance a little bit and just try to have
a good time.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, you guys party and what kind of techno what
kind of techno artists do you listen to?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh? Like various artists, just some playlists, press play and
here we go.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, and how about after a show, do you guys
like to rest and recover or do you just keep
the party going?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Mostly it's rest and recover because we were like, we
just played like it feels like we just played headline
shows this year, So we just played. We always played
for an hour and and more so and like and
like every day we played, like literally every day. So
(09:24):
we yeah, we try to rest and get some get
some sleep and stuff. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And what's the wildest thing you've seen happen in a
pale face pit so far?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Mm hmm mm hmm. The wildest thing there once was
a was a wheelchair crowdsurfing. It said this, this was
very sick.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Wow, that's it. You're touring with Nasty another band known
for something brutality. How did that team up come about?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Nasty is or was there since day won? For us?
We listened. We listened to them when when when we
were like kids or like, yeah, young younger people. So
they inspired us a lot. They inspired us. They also
inspired us to to to like form the band, and
they were the first band who took us out on
(10:19):
our actual tour, on actual tour. So because of Nasty,
we're on the road. Because of Nasty, we are a band.
So we're basically best friends. They're super nice, we're and
that's why we we took them out to the US
and also to Australia.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, well, isn't that crazy? So you guys like grew
up listening to them sort of thing, and then now
it's there you're taking them on tour. Crazy insane? Yeah,
what about some of your other influences? What other bands
do you listen to, either at the moment or when
you guys first formed, for for.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Me personally or for the whole. Okay, So I'm I'm
a super I'm super metal head. So I listened to
all the old stuff. I love Juesus Priest, I love
Iron Maiden, I love fucking Boulevard, Evalentine, Trivium Creator, Halloween,
all the all the metal stuff, all the horns up stuff.
(11:19):
You know, so I always try to to to bring
this influence into the into the payface with music. Yes,
and when it comes to like bands who are like
the same, I would say that who who who should
sound the same as we do, I'd say I listened
(11:41):
to like Slipknot or or or I think I just
lives with some basic hardcore bands that say hardcore beat down. Yeah. Yeah, generally,
like basically we get inspired by every genre, like we
also got We also got inspired by like a like
a like a like a dop step track for one song,
(12:05):
and of course like rap and hip hop artists and
soft rock and alternative rock, like everything, everything inspires us.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah. I can really hear it in this album too, because,
as you said, there's different genres in there. It's not
all just really heavy. There's certain parts that do you
have a more like electronic sort of sound as well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Right, That's what we love, That's what we love. We
love to experiment, We love to bring genres together, and
I think it works pretty well. But we always try
to stick to the route, you know, like to the
heaviness and like try to mix everything, and yeah, sometimes
it's it's very sometimes it's very hard to be honest,
but yeah, we try our best. Nice, we do it well, well,
(12:49):
thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
We get six shows this run. Is there any chance
that you'll get off the plane and be able to
see some wildlife or is it straight to sound check?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Fingers crossed? And I would love to do that. We
we we went to a sanctuary the last time when
we were in Melbourne. That was really nice. But yeah,
most of the time it's it's yeah, going to sound
check and like explore the the area from the city
where we are and on and on off days and
(13:22):
I think there are some off days on that tour.
We try to like explore as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, awesome. And from your last time, he was there
any memories that really sticked out to you.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'd say like being being on the other side of
the world in general for me was very like and
also for for being in in Sydney, because Sydney is
is like a world city, you know what I mean.
And when we when we are when we visited the opera,
it was like, I I realized, I'm what I'm here?
(14:00):
What it's crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh that's lovely. Sydney is the best best city in
my opinion too, Okay, all right, nice, No, that's everywhere
is beautiful. But yeah, I'm from Sydney.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So okay, all right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And the production on Curst is massive. Who did you
work with on it? And how important was capturing that
live energy in the studio?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So we always worked with Flow from Landmarks, the singer.
He produces us since chapter two, so he he knows
her sounds super good and we know how how he works.
So I think that's that came naturally that because the
collaboration was was there ever since? No? And yeah, he
(14:46):
just knows us.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, oh beautiful home About the exact moment when you realize, okay,
this is no longer an underground band, We've really made it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm not sure if there wasn't a moment, because it
came like sign yeah, because like, how do I say that?
I can't find the words. So until twenty twenty five,
we were we were still working normal day jobs beside
that project. And from twenty twenty five on we realized, so, hey,
(15:21):
there's no longer time to like work as like as
for me as a carpenter for the others, as as
a as a plumber and stuff. So yeah, we were
always we are always we were always working so hard
for that band, and to say to now say I'm
I'm a full time musician is super crazy. So but
(15:43):
I don't know if there was an exact moment, you know,
because it came like silently yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And how has your relationship with your fans evolved since
the early show is? Do you think they're getting more
intense or more loyal or both.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Or I think both. We we always try to have
like a very personal relationship to our fans, so we
and we don't want to be We don't want to
feel like rock stars. We want to be like the
We're just normal humans making some heavy music and have
then try to have a good time. So please just enjoy.
(16:19):
I think that's our that's our that's our goal with
our fans.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Beautiful. And what's the coolest or weirdest thing you've been
given to by a fan?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I got, I got a gifted and an alligator had
by two US fans, a real real alligator head. Oh,
because crocodiles in general are my favorite animals. So oh
there you go.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, Oh that's insane. Have you been in America? Did
you get to go on the tour down in Mississippi
and say that the alligators.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
We went to. I went in Florida. I went to
a big wildlife no to like a big like natural
like yeah, no, no, not really sential. It was just
like a nature park and there I saw some like
like wild white alligators. And we also get to visit
(17:18):
the Florida the Orlando Gator Land where all the gators are,
so yeah, super super lovely awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And you've sorry, you've played huge festivals and small clubs.
Do you prefer the controlled chaos of tight sway venues
or the scale of a big stage.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Mm hmm, It depends. I think it's the best of
both worlds. Let's say yeah for me. For me personally,
I love the big shows because there's we have space
on stage there, we can bring production, we can bring
a sick lide show, maybe some pyro, so yeah. But
I mean the small club shows are also part of
(18:02):
the of the whole thing. So best of course words.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I feel like it'd be like the smaller shows, the
more intimate, so you get to really feel the energy
of the crowd. But again with the big shows, you
get to feel that intensified as well. So yes, yeah,
and when this tour is done. What's next for payofface Swiss?
More recording or maybe a much needed nap hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
There we never we never rest, so there's there's always
something to do. But of course the after September we
will we will try to write, We try to write music.
I have to go to military service because it's mandatory
in Switzerland. Oh so yeah, so just like a little bit,
a little bit of a break, but not really, you.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Know, straight to military service. Oh my goodness, how do
you feel.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It's in November, so I have some some time in
October to to rest.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Good good And how are you feeling about that? Alright?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Or it's normal for a Swiss man, I'd say, because yeah,
every everyone has to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So wow, interesting, beautiful all right, Yannick, thank you so much.
We're so excited to see you guys here in September.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Thank you so much for your time, Thanks for having
me and see you and Sydney, I guess Sydney, thank
you
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