Episode 264 - Not My Tribal Chief - Heel Marks: A Wrestling Podcast

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as always for tuning in, Bradyand Danielle. But Neil Marks. Ready
to talk about SmackDown righty to talkabout Ready to talk about money in the
bank because it's right around the corner. Ready to talk about forbidden door because
it's even closer and because we're gonnabe there. Woop boop, woop woop,

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What did it do? Woop boop? You do you know who who's
phrase that was? Boop poop poop? What it do? Now? Tell
me? So it was an NXTcompetitor from the first season known as Skip
Sheffield, who would later go onto be known as ride Back. But
when Skip Sheffield has been NXC andhe was rocking the cowboy hat and like

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the strong cold vest. That washis his big swing at a catchphrase,
woop poop poop? What it do? Oh? I didn't know that.
I like it. Fun facts,fun fact, fun fact. I love
fun facts. Yeah, not somuch fun to talk about when it comes
to what happened last night, Justchaos and destruction. But we got to

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rewind just one week prior because thelast time we did our show it was
right before SmackDown. So we coveredthe Wyatt six debut that had just come
through, but we did not coverJacob Factu emerging onto the scene. We've
been talking about him. We've beenspeculating the trademark was was released about Caesar

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so CooA, John, myself andyou speculated wildly about whether Jacoba Tou would
get a name change, whether thatwas gonna be a new nickname for Solo.
We still don't know. Streets aresaying that it was in fact reserved
for Jacob, but they decided notto go with it. I still think
we're gonna end up getting it asa nickname for Solo. But either way,

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Jacoba Tou with his actual name,with his nickname of Simone where well
with a logo ready prior to thedebut, with a theme song ready a
week later, Jacobatou is here.Jacob Too is scary. Jacoba Tou has
destroyed the WWE World Champion on hisfirst night, and he has now joined

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in with his family in destroying thegreatest manager Consiglieri Hawker of all time,
the Hall of Fame or Paul Haymanall the lines Man. Oh So,
before we get into the Poul Haymanstuff. I want to comment about Jacob.

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What a scary fucking man. Oh? I was like, I mean,
obviously I know who Jacob Fato is, but he came in with such
a force and the way the othermembers of the bloodline reacted to him,
like scared and being like, ohno, now he's here, like it
was beautifully done, Like yeah,it didn't. It showed like my fear,

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my fear of looking at him wasn'ttaken in me, like they're scared
of him too. It wasn't justme being crazy and being like, oh
this man's scary. Does anybody elsethink he's scary? Like they're like,
oh no, now he's come in, And it was. It was good
because at first I didn't necessarily knowit. Fear was just more of like
surprise, like it looked like belowit didn't know. They're like, whoa,

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I didn't know this was happening.And and and that you know,
Toma toong that he didn't necessarily knowhow to react either. They kind of
those ones up a week later.It looks like, of course, like
a unified love line, no beef. But but yeah, Jacob Foto was
just really established as what Solo waswhen he emerged, Nobody knew how to

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react around Solo. You know,there was always that, there was always
that sense of that if Solo lookedat Jimmy or Jay or Sammy or Paul
in a certain way, they wouldkind of shut up. Solo was the
silent enforcer doing Roman's dirty work.And now I think we're getting that from
Jacob. Solo even announces him onSmackDown my enforce. Right. It's not

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fear like they're scared of him.It's kind of like when you're at a
family get together and you're like,oh, no, uncle Jacob Fatou is
coming, Like we gotta be careful, Like, oh, he's gonna start
some shit at the dinner table.Like that's the kind of feel that I
got. Yeah, you never knowwhat he's gonna do. He looks great,
he looks good, Like he Yeah, I'm excited about that. Here's

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the thing. Because of the family, because of the Samoans, the Tongueans,
the way those bodies just are,it's never really been a thing.
For example, Riki she was wasobviously a big boy, and he worked
like a big guy, but hewas also capable of going to the steel
cage and dropping a fucking splash.He also did that clothesline flip that he

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did for everybody. He a youknow what I'm saying. The THEAKA was
a big boy was doing his splashrosies. These are big guys. They
can carry three hundred and fifty poundsand still move fast like engines. So
Jacob Bartu, in the size he'sbeen it was never really an issue like
people have made it for other wrestlersin the past. Now with that said,

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Jacob Bartu clearly made a point.The word went out months ago that
he was signed, he wasn't doinganything. They had access to the performance
center. I can only assume hewas taking advantage of it. Is this
guy slid down he looks so great. I mean, he looks so yeah.
Do you ever watch some of thesewrestlers and you're just like, I

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wish I look like this, ButI am the laziest person in the world,
and like these people like, Imean, obviously they get paid to
do it, That's why they lookso good. But I sit there and
I'm just like, I don't know, man, I like cheeseburgers a lot,
and like I don't want to beon the treadmill for an hour and
I don't want to watch out,Like I barely want to do Soul Cycle

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half the time. Like you knowwhat i mean, I'm just like,
yo, these people just transform theirbodies and it's really it's spectacular. Yeah,
he was probably like, I'm goingon I'm gonna be on natural television,
I'm gonna be on WWE. Igotta look good. And it paid
off. He looks great, andJacob thought too. I Mean, the
funniest thing about how we talk abouthow scary he is and and the monster

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that he is and will be fora trans moving forward in every video,
in every interview I've ever seen him, and he is the nicest guy in
the world. Every story I've readabout him says about how humble he is.
His story is inspiring enough. Thefact that he wasn't really trying to
get into the family business, didn'twant to be a wrestler. He got

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arrested when he was eighteen, andwhile he was in lockup on the TV
saw his cousins Usos make their debutwith Tamina, and like, that's the
moment where he decides to turn hislife around. Besides, that's what he
wants to do. He wants tobe a wrestler, and you know,
time will tell this guy could verywell have more talent in his piggy than

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anyone else. Like this guy isa machine and coming from MLW as their
champion. I mean this past yearwe've seen him do forty five minute Maine
event matches. This is a guywho is capable of carrying whatever low they
want to put on his shoulders.If they want him to talk, he

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can talk. If they want himto stay silent and be menacing for a
year, he can do that aswell. Similar to what we saw them
do with Solo. If you watchthen XTU saw Solo talk, but when
he came to WNB, they're like, Solo, listen, you're gonna do
way more with your eyes, waymore with your facials than anything. And
credit to Solo because for that Jacobatwo debut, that was great. That

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was great. We're Solo's down there, he's begging and you're like, wait,
what, I've never seen this,this can't be happening. And then
he gives you that look he is, his eyes, his smile forms and
you're like, oh wait, that'sright, it's a trap. And then
Boone, Jacobatu on the scene takingout Randy, taking out Cody, eating

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a Kevin Owens super kick, andBoom giving him out a big clothes line
set and Kevin Owen's flipping like justabsolute destruction. Yeah what it is?
It was pretty fun. Yeah,and and and the follow up the next
week is interesting. The opening.The opening is SmackDown. I don't that's

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I didn't know how I felt aboutbecause because we got Randy, we got
Kelloe, we got Cody and theessentially they get their licks back real quick
one week later, but Jacob Atuis not there. So now you're establishing
that Randy, Kevin Owens, andCody Rhodes can take out so low and
Togaloa and tom Atnguam is still likein their first month month and a half,

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you know what I mean. Like, I know, it does seem
like so long that we've been waitingfor Jacob Battu, but these are still
new superstars tom atung and I alreadyfeel bad for Toangaloa because it's already happening
where this guy is already booked inas just the fourth and we're gonna have
to wait extra long for him.But be able to about his own personality.

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Tomatonga got his own debut and timeto shine. He got some wins.
He has a few nicknames. He'salready taken Jay's as the right hand
man. He's the MFT. He'sTomatonga and with his he's already kind of
made a thing for the way hetalks. And so Tomatonga's already got a
way to stand out. Tongue Lolacame in as the third they never really

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gave him an extra something extra orevery time to stand out, and now
he's the one that Kevin Owens isswauns on bombing through a table. Yeah
moments you know, the show openswith that, and Randy Cody and Kevin
Owens are getting arrested taken away.Security seems they're too dangerous to let them
stay here. Why because they're soangry at who knows what they're gonna do

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to the blood Block. And thenat the end of the night, the
Bloodline shakes it off like it neverhappened, welcomes Jacob Batu and then destroys
Paul Hayman. So yes, obviouslyregard that final segment was was masterful,
and we'll get into that more detail. But I don't know that that anyone

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but maybe Jacob Battu and of courseour baby face is really benefited from that
opening segment. Yeah, I'm nottoo sure who's who's benefiting from it.
I mean I think right, Imean, it was fun and it's the
garden, and you know they theywant to go actually for the garden and
listen, I get like, Iknow what they're thinking in that bookie Worm.

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The fact of the matter is they'resetting up for money in the bank
triple threat match. Odds our bloodlinewill be coming out of that victorious.
We're already speculating it's to set upSolo versus Cody at money in the bank.
So this this is a time whereyou do want Cody and Randy and
Kevin Ois to look strong heading intoit. I get it. With that

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said, it's just you have tounderstand how it's coming across. Yeah,
and it's coming across like Jacob Botuis is and was the missing piece and
now Jacob fought too. Is thereason why no one could fuck with you
guys, because the three of them, Solo, Tomatonga and Tangaloa the way
Paul aim in the way they hadrun rock shot. They were being presented

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as just as vicious and just asa potentially dominating blookline as we've seen in
the past, and in one segment, I think that went all out the
window because Randy K and Cody cameout and were like, what's up,
let's go, and and it wentbad for them immediately. I couldn't I
would have. I looked at itas they were just having one of their

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off nights where the Babyfaces got theupper hand. They just you know,
the whole pole thing and stuff goingon. Like So, I mean,
I'm okay with that because I Ido like the back and forth. When
it's always them just dominating over andover again, that kind of gets boring
to me. So like, I'mokay with this. And it was a
good spot for people and made peoplepop in the garden, Like I'm for
that. So I'm okay with thatbecause I feel like it's gonna play out

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differently along as long as there's astoryline going on, Like I don't have
a big problem with that. Iget you, I get you, but
I understand what you're saying, right, But let's get to the ending where
it is the bloodline acknowledgement ceremony whereSolo has brought everybody to the ring.
He lied to follow him and earliertold him Jacob Bartou was not there.

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Grant that Jacobartou was not there whenthey got their asses kicked, we have
to assume what by the end ofthe night, Jacob Bartu had made his
appearance. He gets his own entrance. The theme song does not suck.
The entrance at least in the gardenhad a fair amount of pyro. Yeah,
this is a nice little fire flamesand uh and yeah. Jacob Batu's

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entrance is has packed with aura.I love the way he's being presented.
He gets announced as the Samoan wereWolf and they are all asked to step
up and acknowledge Solo saca. Yeah, and and this is what I'm talking

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about. Tomatonga like, and Iassume this is just from his brain,
just things he's chosen to do,because these are all means, you know,
nobody's no one's do to this.So Tomatonga has his own little and
I don't know if it's language,I don't know if it's noises. I
don't know exactly what he's saying.I've not read anyone on Twitter yet like

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translating what he's saying if he isspeaking tongue in or any other language.
But he always kind of begins bysaying a few things and then and yes,
I acknowledge you, And like theway everything is just very precise with
him, So I like and tongalolacomes out. Yeah, that's exactly,
that's the perfect way for it.Yeah, it's very methodical. I love

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it, and I love I lovethe way Jacob I too did his as
well, where he comes out hisgrand I thought it was odd that these
are the first words we're gonna hearJacob I tous say other than like him
screaming hell yeah after this last week, right yeah, which I love,
Like I love him so much.I'm so happy to fucking see him getting

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getting shine the way he is.Oh yeah absolutely. But like the way
he comes like that knowledge, likethe way like it was just oh god,
like it's just yeah, they're reallydoing this well, it's so funny.
I still keep thinking about how they'remaking uh soa the one, Like

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it's so weird to me that likehe's the one that they're like pushing the
hardest. But they have like everybodyelse like stepping up and making it good.
So I it's uh, but youknow what, that's exactly what was
happening when Roman was running. That'strue. I forget about the where Roman

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didn't show up, And it wasJimmy, it was Jay, was Sammy,
it was Solo. It was allcarrying bloodline feuds, carrying bloodline stories,
you know. So, so thisis what we're getting now. It's
it's the same. It's the samebut different, different, but the same.
Yeah, it's just it's yeah,it's fun, it's good storytelling.

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Yeah. And then and listen,I texted you like as it was happening,
like as soon as Solo because andthis is where Paul is God.
First off, let's talk about everythinghe did leading up to it, because
this guy looked like he had notslept in days. This is something he

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is kind of notorious for. Anytimea story demands, it requires it,
anytime a story would benefit from it. He's willing to do things, whether
it means not shaving, whether itmeans not not dying his grades like he
normally does, whether it means notsleeping or or I got to imagine at

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least a few times in his life. He smoked a jay or two,
being like, listen, I justneed the bloodshot for the for the bit
of believe that. I listen,I want to believe it more than I
want to believe this poor man isliterally keeping himself up at night for no
other reason. No, you canput the drops in there and make it

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look like that. You think that'swhat I don't think. Yeah, they
put those drops. I forgot what. I don't know. He's methic,
all right, you don't play Okay'smethod. You're right, Yeah he didn't.
He hasn't say. But like Iremember, I said, I was
texting you like this man is agod. And it was simply it was
like during the entrance, like andfor weeks, this man who's been walking

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around with these guys looking like ap o W and it's so well done,
and you knew it was coming toa head. And here it is
the garden, his back yard.Uh youw people, few people will understand
what it means to be in thegarden for them to do this to him.
The second solo said Madison Square Gardenacknowledged me. Paul came and the

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look on his face and that's themoment Daniel I texted, you know what's
about that happen? And I knewAnd then Solo when it gets to Paul,
Solo breaks out and I wish Iknew the proper name of it.
You know what the what the necklaceis, what the lay is, what

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we do know the name? Wealways forget it every time we look it
up, right, I wish Iknew it? Yeah, but yeah,
but yeah, And and this iswhere things get interesting, because that is
womans and Paul ain't even like hescreams like, how did you get this?
And this is of course following lastweek when prior to Jacobatu making his

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debut, Solo did heel ro allRoman's not coming back? Every week often
talking about the tribal chief, thistrivel chief that when Roman returns, Solo
tells him Roman's not coming back.Now, if this was a thriller,
if this was a horror movie,if this was a TV show where you
never know what's gonna happen, we'dbe thinking that Solo took out Roman,

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right, We'd be thinking something happenedbehind the scenes, an off screen murder.
Roman got got he's got his beat? How the fuck did you get
that, you must have got him. Granted, this is this is wrestling
and not that, so that implicationis only being made in my mind.
They've not told us anything of thatsort, right, And it's called a

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oolah falla ah ula falla. Yeah, Samoan laa. I literally typed in
samoan red pepper leg red pepper.It's not it's not peppers. It's a
pandeous fruit. But it made melook it may it reminds me of red
pepper. So I just got.But that's the answer. You got.

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You gotta fancy. You know thatGoogle search. Yeah, I'm a sleuth.
You know that yep storyline ye,storyline. Dance strikes again. I
need a hat. I need afedora like like that all that detective hats.
Oh yeah, and a trench coat. Yeah. I look so good
in the trench coat. But goodgreat, Yeah, yeah, he took

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that bump man that just even beforejust the delivery of everything, Solo,
I love you, and then Ilove when like there's always things I think
we catch little moments of realism,and these these are two men who know
what's about to happen. Solo knowsthat, at least for a while if
not forever, Solo's time working closelyonscreen with Paul is over right, so

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goodbye God. Yeah. So whenPaul says Solo, I love and then
in that pause Paul takes Solo saysnot into a microphone, but he says,
I love you too, And Ithink that's it was real. I
think that was just a little likethat was what was Solo saying that the
Paul. I think that was Paulsaying that the Solo, and then Paul

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in character goes on to say,but I acknowledge that you are not my
tribal chief. And it reminds meexactly of when Sammy struck Roman with the
chair, because Sammy strikes Roman withthe chair and then he drops the chair
and he's standing there with Jimmy andJay kind of hands out like listen,

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I had to do what I hadto do. You gotta do what you
gotta do, and that's when hegets got by Jimmy. So in this
case, Paul rows down to ulafather that is an acknowledgy. He's standing
there looking in his eyes. Heknows what he's done and he knows what's
coming, and Bo Solo hits himwith the samo In spike and then quarters
are given to Jacobatu and he deliveredthe big splash, but that's not enough.

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And now Solo gives the orders orhis three and pick members of the
blood line to deliver Roman raids,trade bark shield bomb, who the wise
man? Oh Paul Haymen through thetable in ass the Square Guarden, leading
the Madison Square Guarden Pactina to showershower them with the chance of fuck you,

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Sola. I I'm always big inwhen things like this happened to well
wrestlers in general, but especially PaulHaymon. I love to watch how he
takes a bomb, like I loveto watch that he knows tucking your chin
this And I was like watching andI was like, man, this man
just let them like backslap him.Like I was like, oh man,

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I was like, Paul's about totake this money. You could tell they
were protecting him, like he truststhem enough to give him give him that
bomb. But I was like nervousfor that man. I was like that
man's head could hit something by accident, Like oh man, It's like do
we practice this in like beforehand?Do they practice breaking the table? I
always wondered that, I don't know, Paul took it like a champ,

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like Paul, Yeah, Paul's like, this is storytelling. I'm gonna get
you guys so over in the mostlike yeah, I'm gonna heal heat.
You're welcome. Yeah, like one. Paul has put this storyline on his
back, and people have been criticalabout not necessarily the performance, but more
the decision where Roman leaves and youimmediately just thrust Solo to this bloodline leader

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role. A lot of people havebeen critical, a lot of people have
been skeptical. A lot of people, I think concocted ideas in their head
that Jacobatu was was being held offbecause he was gonna outshine Listen is gonna
outshine people, sure, Tomas aswell, so tonguelow up. These guys
are bet These guys are good.They've been outshining people for years in every

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company they've been in. But thisis not a situation because Solo hasn't been
wrestling much. So it's not asense of, oh, Jacob Bartu so
much better in the ring, andso it doesn't matter. So is the
ring general right now? Solo isCaesar Soca possibly you know, Solo is
leading the charge, He's making thedecisions, and I do think that Solo

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will facebook the championship. Huh.I just had an epiphany. Yeah,
if Solo Soca becomes the Caesar,who's gonna be the brutus? All right?
Feel me it? Oh Caesar,Caesar. Brutus turned on Caesar in

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real life. Caesar, remember attwo brute and he stabs him in the
back and kills and betrays Caesar.And when he turns around and sees that
brutus, his right hand betrayed him, he says at two brute, meaning
and YouTube brutus. So I wonderwho's gonna who that's going to be.
If that's where we're going with this, I mean probably considering Jaa Solo was

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the brutus for Roman. It seemsat least maybe I don't know, but
that just made me think if they'redoing Caesar, then there's gonna be a
brutus eventually and interesting. Interesting,Yeah, yeah, that was my That
was my epiphan ages now because Iwas like, oh, okay, and

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then you can do it at twobrute at two and now, and also
I think it's going to be interestingto see so where do they go from
here. Obviously it's it's Cody Roadsnext week, Cody, probably Randy and
Kevin Owens, but Cody in particular, Cody is gonna bring out the water
works and he's going to talk abouthow much Paul Hymen means in the business,

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and that's the square garden or howdaring. Cody's gonna get emotional with
it. However, he's not onSmackDown. And also he got bloody last
week, so Sampunk, who knowswhen we'll see him again on SmackDown because
the student withdrew on raw. Butthey did make a point last week of
having Paul mentioned the solo when he'ssaying, you're breaking you're making cardinal sins,

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you're breaking commandments. Here, Roman, the tribal chief, always made
it a rule that CM punk wasoff limits. He knows what he means
to me, so, which ishilarious, by the way, because Sampunk
was off limits when he was inanother company. Great Big Roman was through
real nice. He looked out.I think that was it was a nice

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touch that Paul brought in there.So there is also room for CM punk
to confront these guys, I think. And then of course the implication is
that Roman Reigns this should be thestraw that broke the camp was back right,
Roman reins was willing to let meso take his medicine and get god.

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I think Roman Reigns was even willingto let Soa and call himself the
head of the table, run aroundand make his new blood line. But
when he destroys puts hands and disrespectsthem the wise man. I do think
this might be what brings Roman down, most likely at SummerSlam, to either
interrupt Solo versus Cody to confront anew champion Solo after Solo beats Cody,

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or hell to kind of look downon a defeated Solo if Cody beats Solo,
and then Roman comes out kind oflike with his smirk, like really,
you thought you could take the thronethat easy? You thought you thought
it was that you gotta kill theking to be the king. And then
we get back maybe Roman becomes thecaesar, right the Solo is brutus,

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Yeah, and Solo is brutus allalong. I do feel like like it's
obviously Romans coming back soon, right, can't go too long without him,
But at the same time, Iwish it did only because I do feel
like this new Bloody needs more.If they need, definitely I do.

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Honestly, I'm not opposed to Solobecoming champions. No, I'm not either.
I think it goes well with thestoryline. I don't know how long
he'll be it, right. There'sthere's also things like we said how how
strong Bloodline was when they had It'salmost like the Judgment Day when they all
had that were holding the titles andthey're a dominant force to be reckoned with,
Like that's okay. I wouldn't bemad. I know the Internet will

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be mad, but I don't.I wouldn't be mad for him to have
the title as long as he getsit in a in a deceitful way,
because he is a heelway. Youcan't win clean. If he wins clean,
rains never beat nobody on his own. In fact, so was responsible
for most of roman reigns Kyle defense, right, And I think that also
is something people aren't talking about wherethat has gone into what's in Solo's mind

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where he thinks it's so easy totake the throne. But to your point,
and this was something we were talkingabout early in this formation of this
new group. But that Roman didn'tjust call himself ahead of the table.
It didn't just call himself the tribalchief. Because he assembled his family.
He was champing and his family unitedaround him to keep the king on his

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throne because he was feeding everyone.Who's feeding these people? Solo is not
champed. So who's cham who?You know what I mean? Like that
was the thing, and so Ithink that's where it's missing. And yes,
you can take out whoever you want, but Solo needs to come for
Cody. And I think Solo itwould be in the best interest to really

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establishing these guys as bloodline that Jakeesdid to actually have Solo get some success.
I think having him be involved inmoney in the bank would have been
an interesting decision. He'd be aninteresting guy to have that briefcase. I
will say, he is an interestingguy to have the briefcase. But then

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I feel like there's too much becausethen the blood line would get too involved,
I feel, and that's too manytoo many chefs making the soup,
like you have what was it,six men already doing a ladder match,
and then the bloodline will interfere.Too many, too many. But he'd
be one of the six men.Yeah, no, no, no,
but I'm not saying one of thesix. I would say if the Bloodline

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came out to help him win thebank. Now we have so many people,
we have so many people in thering outside the ring, I think
it would get be a kerfuffle andthat would be too much. Well,
I don't want to jump ahead,but I do think we'll be getting something
similar in money in the bag.Yeah, so I do. I think
I think we'll be getting some interferences. But we'll get to that when we

(32:07):
get to that man once again.Blood Line two point zero on fire right
now. Speaking of out Fire,we spoke about Wyatt Six making their initial
debut. We spoke about what wewanted to happen, what we thought would
happen. Would they attack somebody onSmackDown that obviously didn't happen. I kind

(32:28):
of did think we get an attackthis week on SmackDown because it was the
Garden, because I thought they wouldbe able to do so many interesting things
with the setup, with anything backstageor anything out there. They chose not
to do that as well. Itdoes appear Uncle Howdie's group, the Wyatt
Six, will be raw exclusive andwe did get at least the second chapter

(32:52):
of this where a video concette,a videotape aving was delivered to Michael Cole
and it was played and it wasan interview. And I assume, based
on the way it ended that andreally from the whole content, that this

(33:14):
interview was recent. Despite the factthat the time a video gis said,
it wasn't like this is from thenineties and this is back in time or
whatever. This does seem like itwas done fairly recent because they were kind
of talking about what they've been doingand what they did last week, taking
out Chad Gable, shaking out allthose extras, all those bodies, Yeah,
saying we made them. Remember butit's Uncle Howdie talking to Bo Dallas

(33:38):
really and and Bully Ray said thisalready it's not a hot take, but
this is exactly what I thought whenI was watching it. We were watching
Taylor rokkun to speak. There waszero acting involved and any of that.
I watching this, I was like, Wow, they're really doing this.
This is super raw, This issuper This is also what people have been

(33:59):
thinking, like they're like the fanshave been thinking this, like, how
are you know what about Bray Wyatt, what about this? What about that?
And like people have been wanting tohear from you know, Taylor Rotunda.
They have, they've been wanting toThey've been wanting to hear about this.
They know it's been pretty silent,not too much, you know.
And I think this was beautifully done. I thought it was creepy. I

(34:22):
thought it was uncomfortable. I thoughtit was heartfelt. Like, oh,
I went through every single motion ofan inside out character in my brain,
like you know what I mean.I went through each thing of like there
was almost anger at one point becauseit's like I'm so mad Bray's not here
for this, you know what Imean? Like I went through all the
stages. I'm almost like grief.Yeah, I think I thought it was

(34:43):
beautifully I thought it was beautifully executedand beautifully done. It really was.
It was just it was so rawand so real and I positively you used
those exact words, but really likethat's the best way to describe it,
because it really felt like like thesewere things he had to say right and

(35:10):
and they and they made it workwithin the confines of his story, and
it was so eerie and and andemotional, and you know, and it
was smart of them to ask questionsthat people stupid people, ignorant people,
but people either weren't or were possiblygoing to bring up like is he taking

(35:32):
advantage of his legacy? Is he, you know, profiting advantage? Blah
blah blah, and listen, Ithink there's people have reasons to think those
things, not because of bou Dallas, because of Great White, because of
this story, but because of ww'spast. You know, they've done stuff
like this. It's not something theywouldn't do, so so I think it

(35:53):
was smart for them to go andacknowledge that, and for bau Dallas,
for Taylor wrote Times the two Baseput all that to bed to give his
realest possible response to it, totell his story right, you know,
about how he worked, and itwas such a small line, but it

(36:15):
made me feel so much. Butit's just kind of like, and I
worked for the opportunity to work besidesit, because it's exactly what happened.
Gray Wyatt made the TV and becamea household maybe years before, like when
bo Dallas was still in FCW.So so bo Dallas did have to really

(36:36):
work and he went through a lotand they put him through shit, and
it seemed at many times that itwas impossible that Bo Dallas would never actually
be able to even be on TVwith Bray Wyatt, let alone be associated
with him. They got a littlebit of that, you know, the
Few, the B Team and thede Leters of Worlds, we had a
little bit of screen time, butit wasn't until years later for their both

(37:00):
release and both come back they finallyget to do it. So he really
did have to work for the opportunityto be able to be involved in a
storyline with his brother with Ray.Why it was there and they had it
and oh my god, the factthat yeah, and the fact that and

(37:22):
I was so genius to us forthem also to kind of acknowledge that,
yes, whether it's Bo Dallas orthere's Keller Retunda whatever they are calling it,
because when they asked him, doyou even know who you are?
And he said, I nobody,they're still keeping it open and it's still
giving us question mark. But it'simportant to acknowledge that this person was splash

(37:43):
is uncle how you know? We'reso we are getting the different personalities.
Is this maybe did Bo Dallas becomeUncle Howdie? And like, really this
is kind of just all happening inhis mind. You know, you know,
there's still so many questions. Ilove that it was. You could
see it in a couple of shotsin the Firefly Funhouse. Yeah, yeah,

(38:06):
it was. It was really beautifullydone. Yeah, whoever, whoever
film that is has such an eye. I would love to be a fly
on the wall also because and thisis kind of just my curiosity. I
don't know if I would ever askthese questions, but I would love to
know, like what Taylor Road tunedhis mindset, was mind frame was when

(38:31):
he was filming. Was it kindof just like any other day? Did
you show up cassette smiles, thedonuts hanging out. Were they able to
call cut and then go into jokesor was all of this kind of just
so real and raw that he hadto just be in his zone cap into
something so real and maybe he neededsome time to himself after filming. You

(38:51):
know, these are the things Iwould like, I said, probably not
ask anyone to be curious, rightright, right, right, but yeah,
so beautifully done. I think thisis a great way to do it.
One thing that I feel people sleepon. If you are not a
wrestling fan and you are a quoteunquote casual wrestling fan or you're just not
into wrestling anymore. It's storytelling.Storytelling is so real and like the things

(39:13):
people love is the real of it. Like people love the pipeline, you
know, the pipe on from Sampunk. Everybody talks about that because it was
real, like there was there wasreal behind it. So for him to
do something like this, it's soreal and so raw. And like people
were so sad when Bray bray Dotpassed because it was such I don't want

(39:34):
to use wasted potential. But likethey had such a thing with him,
and like sometimes they would pull thetrigger and then like the trigger would jam,
Like it was just so weird,like they just you know, they
slept on it. So they slepton him so much when they should have
pulled They should have pulled the triggerfaster a lot of times. And like
they had such great storytelling with thischaracter and everything, and it's so great
that you know, Bo Dallas isallowed to do this now and be this

(39:59):
uncle uncle a howdy character and likeyou know, let Bray live on.
And that's what touches wrestling fans inthe sense too. Yeah, we love
watching wrestling, but we also lovethe storytelling behind it. It's just like
watching cinema and watching TV shows thatwe've loved forever. This is storytelling and
this is what we love about it. And bray Wyatt was cinema and the

(40:19):
why it's six is cinema and it'sit's like I said, after the debut,
they leave us with so many questionsand I hope we don't get answers
anytime soon. Yeah, and thiskind of just it gave us some answers,
but really gave us more questions andwe're still left wondering. I think

(40:42):
they'd be wise to give us somethingevery week. I don't know if that
means we're not going to get anotherattack. I know a lot of us
are kind of bloodthirsty for that.Now you've got another murder, you want
more gore. At the same time, we're maybe we need a little time
to process what has is happening toChad Gable as well, like like because

(41:07):
they have a victim, right,what happened though? Chad Gable came out
next week he had just a littlebit of a little bandage on his forehead,
like that was just a fucking cut, Like, yeah, exactly.
He never really acknowledges what happened tohim, just that he was attacked and
with a horrible deal. He winshis match with monsters clean whyn't you?

(41:30):
Yeah? Uh? You know hitthat hit that beautiful moods. Granted it's
triple threats, so there are norules. So as clean as clean gets
what, I hit that clean moodsalt and gets the w gets the one
two three uh and and then whenhe talks to Otis and the Alpha Academy

(41:52):
backstage, it seems like we mighthave a new Chad Gable. He is
apologetic. He says, this entirethis, this life altering of that happened
to me. I almost died.People thought I was dead, and you
guys, my family or what Isaw, my life was flashing before me.
Do you know who he reminded meof. He reminded me of Tie

(42:14):
from Clueless. Remember when those guystry to lean her over the balcony and
then she's like, I had abrush with death. Yeah, right before
you die. Your mind, sorry, gets very clear. I don't know
how to pinpoint the spirituality of itif you've never experienced it. That's why
I felt why he was talking tothem. I was like, oh,

(42:35):
Chad, yeah, he's yeah,and like it's it's so I'm I was
like I kind of wanted Otis andthem to take him back though, like
I want yeah, yeah, wasgoing to give us new life instead.
Otis is like, you got youhurt my family. So no, it's
like I said last week, we'redone. So it. Once again,

(42:59):
this feels like a very underwhelming payoffto what they had been building with Otis
and Gable, with the real splitof Alt the academy, Like if this
is really what it is, heshoved him last week, told me he
was done. Chad Gable gets merged. Next week, Chad Gable wants to
turnover nearly a new leaf, andOtis is like, I told you already,

(43:21):
We're done. Like that's It seemslike they waste a lot of momentum.
The crowd was prowling at the mouthor something, you know, we
were talking about this forever. However, the segment does with Chad Gable getting
confronted or you know, approached bythe Creed Brothers and Ivy Nile and they're
like, hey, Chad, what'swrong? And Chad is like I need

(43:45):
help, and that's literally the lastthing we hear. So we've got one
raw left before money in the bank. My guess is maybe maybe the official
split happens then, where like ChadGable tried as one more time, calls
his family out, Oh this uhyou know here, des Ou and that
team come out, and then they'reset up to be attacked by the Creed

(44:07):
brothers and I be nivl I'm sorry, Ivy Nile, Like this is this
team has been long, long speculatedto team up with Chad. They it's
a perfect pairing on paper, andI think it would help. I think
it would help them all, likethey so yes, like I do want

(44:28):
that, but it does feel likethey they got into it in a bit
of a clunky way. Yeah.At the same time, At the same
time, I'm curious to see ifif this is a new Chad Gable,
like if Master Gable isn't a meanMaster anymore, you know. Jumping back
real quick to the Wyat six,I would one thing I would have changed

(44:50):
about them real quick, and thishas to do with CHEGGI Bowl a little
bit too. Is I wish whenthey first debuted on Raw they did show
up on an x T and thenthey did show up on SmackDown, meaning
like which brand were they going tochoose to torment? And then when they
find and like each one they hada kind of a target like picked a
target person per brand and then kindof stuck with Chad Gable like they were

(45:15):
like he's the one who needs ourhelp, our help the most. Like
I wish they kind of did that, you know what I mean? Yeah,
yeah, I do hope that weget a bit of message from the
YA six in terms of Chad Gable, Like I do hope that, like
I don't want his involvement and thisto kind of just get swept under the

(45:38):
rug, like yeah, Scott,you know, got like they did hint
at why they came at him,you know, and such as you stop
saying thank you, which which issuch a beautiful touch because it's easy to
like miss that he stopped saying thankyou. He still says should but yeah,
he stopped saying thank you. Soso yeah, one hundred percent heel

(46:04):
does Chad Gables say thank you?Next week? Do we get him saying
it again? Uh, It'll bevery interesting to see where Chad Gable goes,
where Wyat six goes. I alsothink there's a chance we do see
why six return the SmackDown. Maybethey've got it. Like I said,
their attack on Chad Gable makes memade me I didn't do it, but
made me want to go back throughall the clues every five everything, Right,

(46:29):
we'll stay hinted to you are sureit wasn't just cg The way you're
saying this, you make me thinkof Charlie Day. You know that the
meme from Charlie Day with all thestrings connected. We should do that.
We should do that as like aside episode and like go through all of
it and try to find initials andbe like, maybe this connects to this,

(46:52):
like have it have it be aheal mark like tinfoil hat thing.
I'd be fun. Yeah, that'dbe fun. That'd be super fun.

(47:14):
Yeah. I love Chad Gable AndI also think he should get some gold.
He'd be a good money on thebank winner. He'd be a good
Yeah. I just think I thinkhe takes whatever they give him, and
of course he's pitched some stuff,but whatever they he's been given, I
think he's really like stuck with it, and from what I gather outside of
the ring, he's really helped alot of I'm sure he's helped. Yeah,

(47:37):
you know all of these these theAlpha Academy, he's helped tremendously.
Like Otis, I feel gets getson on his own because people love him.
By the way, did you watchthat interview with Mandy when she was
like, Otis is a decent kisserand and our nemesis where is like that's
not funny and I was like shutup with But with Otis, I do

(47:57):
think like, yeah, Otis hasalways had the native villages connected the audience.
There's always just something like Otis isand and and similar to that,
like they both kind of been thatperson in their teams, in their groups
and anything them they connect. ButI do think Otis got a real rough
and uh post what loses loses theangle that he built with Mandy that was

(48:21):
really connecting with the live audience becomesthe comedy money in the bank winner who
loses it and then just get sweptback into obscurity. I think Chad Beeble
working with him behind the scenes helpedhim mentally, like and helped him get
through that mentally and stay committed tothe point where Otis can realize, oh
wait, I can do this again. I can get back there. I

(48:42):
do connect with the audience. Iam doing the right things here. So
yeah, but let's use that.That's a good segue if we're gonna get
let's get into our Money in theBank predictions. Okay, okay, we
will we will start stop. Wewill start with the Money in the Bank
matches only because we're gonna start firstwith the final qualifiers. Sure on law.

(49:06):
We're getting Seamous versus Drew MacIntyre versusEliot Dragonov. This will be for
the final spot in the raw Moneyin the Bank match. We've also got
Zoe Stark versus Dakota Guy versus IbyNile. That's gonna be the final match
for the women's Money in the Bank. Let's go, ladies. First,
Let's start with Zoe Stark versus DakotaKai versus Ivy Nile. Danielle, would

(49:30):
you like to kick us off andsee who you think will be joining the
Money in the Bank five. Ithink I think z is gonna have this
spot. Oh, I think theyneed some momentum after after Clash of the
Castle, and I think, yeah, I'm gonna go Zoway Stark. Interesting.

(49:51):
I love Zoey Stark. I thinkthat's a good pick. I do
think, and I think it makesthe most sense. I think it's the
best to save booking wise. Butalso sometimes things that happen on social media,
sometimes people say certain things and itchanges plans. For example, it's
notoriously known that mac Cardonah Zach Ryderprobably wasn't going to be in that Interfninental

(50:15):
title ladder match that he ended upwinning. It wasn't until he was trying
to pitch himself to road Dog andhe said, listen, I've never heard
my music player wrestle maybe, andthat line became a line of a promo.
It got him the moment Dakota Kaihas spoken recently. I think it
was on like a twig stream.She got teary eyed, she got emotional

(50:37):
talking about it. But Dakota Kaibasically talked about the fact that she's never
I think she said had a singlesmatch on a pl E. It might
have just been I've never had amatch on a pl right. I feel
like that'd be hard to imagine,only because damage control. I feel like
they had so many matches, soit might be as a singles thing.

(50:58):
It might be a singles thing becauseshe wasn't games right right exactly. Yeah,
so I think, yeah, probablyjust hasn't had a match on her
own. Ah and the so goodshe's so good. Yeah, like it's
still really good and for and fora while now like her, you turn
a NXP is still like so oneof the best. Yeah. So yeah,

(51:22):
this was her quote, I've neverhad an opportunity as a singles competitor
on a pl so that's what itwas, and she says She also says
she's not talking about NX. I'mwaiting for you to say. With that
said, I think it's gonna beIvy Nile. No, no, no,
no, no, no, Ido I'm going with Coda on this
one. I was like, ohno, I just love wasting your time.

(51:45):
I mean, you do that,You'll be like, I think this
person's winning, gother you talk yourselfout of it, right. No.
No, In this case, Ido think Coda Kai should get to win.
I think it would be smart tohave more than one member of Damage
Control in the match. I justthink that's a fun thing to play with
where you can have Dakota and EoSky tag team on other women. Also,

(52:07):
at the same time, you canget AEO and Dakota meeting at the
at the ladder. Wait a minute, I want the new case. I
want to brief. Can't we bothhave it? No, we can't.
One of us has to go.Then they both get thrown up a ladder.
So some thing doesn't want Dakota andEo tag teaming other women. You
know, Sky versus Chelsea Green versusLyra Valt g versus Tiffany Stratton versus Naobi

(52:32):
versus who you think is Joey stuck? And I think is Dakota Kai,
which probably needs its Ivy Nile didjust right? Did we get speaker enough?
I'm sorry, what did you sayif you get picked from John the
speaker enough? No, he wassupposed to tell He was like, I'll
send you picks, and then henever sign that. Yeah, I saw
that he never did. Okay,fine, never mind. I guess I

(52:52):
was supposed to remind him. SorryJohn, Sorry John, Well you'll say
him next week you'll probably get themalved. Well, you'll tell us them
and then we'll just add them tothe thing. Yeah, but yeah,
So who do you think will walkaway this money? In fact? Okay,
so maybe a few weeks ago oreven a month ago, I would
have said Tiffany Stratton. I thinkTiffany Stratton would be the perfect money in

(53:14):
the bank person. However, butI'm manifesting and I think the perfect But
I do think the perfect person tohold the briefcase is Chelsea Green. So
I'm going Chelsea Green is winning thewomen's money in the bank because I I'm
manifesting it and I think she's theone that can benefit the most from it.

(53:36):
And she would be so fun asa missus money in the bank,
like she just she'd be. Soshe's gonna be so fun if she's walking
around with that briefcase and she doesPiper at her side, Like I just
think it. The story tells itself. So I am going with Chelsea Green.
So here's the funny thing. Iactually think, like the way we're

(53:57):
wording it, I personally think PianyStratton would actually be per quote unquote perfect
pick for money in the bank,only because Tiffany Stratton, the way they
presented her as an in ring threatfrom MXT to main Roster, the way
she was being highlighted from the RoyalRumble to Mania to now, it seems

(54:20):
like they actually have been planning tomake her champion. They present her in
a way where she could get herselfa championship MATCHI and almost any moment.
This briefcase is just gonna allow herto pick her spots. They've also teamed
her up with Naya Jacks, whichkind of is a bit of a question
mark, only because they both shouldhave the same goals. Plus Naya Jackson
is Queen of the Ring now.Naya Jackson is a Bailey's number one contender.

(54:45):
Yet all we've seen for Nijack inthe past couple of weeks is her
helping Tiffany, but she doesn't needto do anything because she right, but
including getting her into the money inthe Bank match. So I feel like
Naya could help. Uh, shecould easily help Tiffany in this match.
You know we could see that.So I think I think Tiffany would be

(55:07):
the perfect pick only because they presenther that way, whereas Chelsea Green is
gonna be the most fun we wantit, we think it'd be best.
And also the way they present her. Her only way of becoming world champion
is being a brief case. Butbecause they haven't established her as a true
in rate threat leading up to it, I worry about what that would mean
for her as a championship. Frank. However, as you said, her

(55:30):
having Piper right now and then establishingthat Piper as her heavy them establishing that
this is a true connection or truebomb, they have each other's back.
It would be just so much funto see her with the briefcase, to
see her talk and all that trash, then to see her actually win.
Oh Man, So yeah, I'mgonna I'm with you. Let's go,
Chelsea a part of Tiffany. Tiffanyis definitely my backup of an agreement to

(55:55):
Chelsea or definite. I think Tiffanylost a little momentum after like that whole
stupid thing, right unfortunately, becauseI think Tiffany's gold. But Chelsea Green
winning the money in the bank isjust I just I think I think they
might be putting plans in motion forNaya and Tiffany to be able to come
tag team champions okay for a littlewhile. That way either the has to

(56:21):
be world champion, it can kindof become strong. So I think I
think there's plans in place for that. And I don't love yeah, but
whatever, but so yeah, sowe're both kind of thinking we got Chelsea
Green on this. I mean Naomiuh eo, no Liah Valkyrie. I
don't. I think it's too soonfor her to have a money in the
bank, even a title shot,because if she has a tile shot,

(56:44):
she'll probably lose. Like I Tiffanyand Chelsea make the most sense, but
Chelsea with oh yeah, the briefcasejust works. Yeah, and also it
is in Canada, so the crowdwould go crazy for us, right,
Heels usually win these matches. Butyou do love that insane pop when the

(57:07):
crowd really runs. Yeah yeah,so like this is good. I mean,
here's the thing. I don't knowif she's a heel for any night.
Did you hear that pop when shewon last Yo? They were there
like and and Bianca was there readyto win the match. Beanca's top baby.

(57:28):
They hasn't lost any any crowd,any crowd love, but broom Chelsea
comes in for the gotcha and thatcrowd pop way through the roof like that.
The crowd, the audience reacts toChelsea and and she can still get
a heal but but yeah no,she knows how to connect with them and

(57:50):
and everyone respects and appreciates the workshe's done, and the stories Matt Cardona
tells about her on Twitter, andthe effort that she puts in the extra
work. Every time any wrestler actuallytells a story about Chelsea, it always
makes her sound even better. Itmakes you even a bigger fan. So
yeah, I think we're all callingfor Chelsea on this one. It's gonna
be so fun. I think she'sgonna be such a funny money a fun

(58:14):
money in the bank winner. Yeah, so good, funny money in the
bank. Uh, we got abanger to look forward to for this raw.
It's Shamous versus Drew McIntire versus IliadDragon uf Iliot Dragon Up was of
course, originally pended to take Chadgables spot at versus Brobson and Braun.
One has to assume he might havewon that match. Since Chad Gable did

(58:37):
win that match. Who knows,though, Illia is taken on Drew and
Shamous. Now, Danielle, whoyou got? Oh? And John So
has just chimed in he's got Chelseaas well. Good good, Yeah,
I think we are all right.You win the bank, you do,

(59:00):
I am the bankerst I just wantto point out that the loser of this
match is all of their chests,because all their chests are going to be
bright red from all the chops they'regetting. Man, I want to say
Ilia, but I feel like it'sgoing to be Seamous. Fuck it,
I'm going to Chance, I'm goingto Chase. Yeah. I think Seamus

(59:23):
is a WW guy that people loveand people backstage like he's their guy.
People sleep on him. Remember thattwenty Century List and everyone was made a
Chamis and it's like, what doyou mean? Seamus is a champion like
numerous times over and like whatever,Yeah, going Seamous, Seamus is great.

(59:45):
Seamus puts on Bankers right now withW's WB's not really pushing him.
I don't think like they're using him. They're keeping him on TV, they're
keeping him hot and keeping him relevant. But I don't see him winning this
one. I do think they're gonnagive it to the younger, young guy.
I think they're at the Ilia.He's coming in like a house of
cards. They haven't really made himlook weak other than like like bron Breakers

(01:00:07):
steam through him. But bron Breakeris a machine. So I think Ilia
wins uh this match. I thinkIli's got like I think Ilia should be
considered. If he does win thismatch, could be a possible contender for
money in the Bank. I thinkhe'd be a good one. With that
said, who do you have walkingaway as mister money in the bank.

(01:00:28):
We've got Jay Usso, taken On, Callaway, taking on Driday, taken
On, Chad Gable, l A. Knight just qualified last night. And
of course you think Seamus is joiningthem. I think Elliot Dragon is joining
him. Probably need it will beDrew. Geez. What we could start

(01:00:49):
with Johnstick because he did submit it. Yeah, let's do John's pick first.
John has picked made event, jayUso, John Staidy. He all
over money in the bank. Hethinks he's gonna be eat in the back.
Okay, So want to hear somethingcrazy about this match? Yes,
probably not counting Seamus, But anyone of these guys would be a fantastic

(01:01:15):
money in the bank winner, Likeall of them would benefit from being a
money in the bank winner. LikeI'm okay with any of them winning.
To be honest, maybe Andrade isthe only one I'm like about, But
other than that, I'm okay withany of them. I'm just I'm torn
because I feel like I feel likeit should be La Knight, Like La

(01:01:37):
Knights should win. He should havewon last year in my opinion, Like,
but I feel like I feel likeElla. I feel like Chad Gables,
the guy I always picked that neverwins. I feel like I'm Eddie
Mush. I feel like when Ipicked Chad Gable, then he's never gonna

(01:01:58):
lose. I mean, you know, one thing to look at is what
is gonna be the better hashtag orbetter catchphrase. And then Carmelo made a
point on SmackDown. He's like,as soon as I win, I will
put out Mellow in the Bag Tshirts. Those are gonna sell out.
Those are great. Yeah, wewould sell out, those would sell out.

(01:02:20):
I feel like La Knight and LoganPaul are eventually gonna get there,
and it doesn't need a briefcase.So I am going to go Chad Gable,
which means Chad Gable's not winning,But I'm gonna say Chad Gable because
I really think that Chad Gable needssomething. Like we we lost the Alpha

(01:02:42):
Academy. Maybe the Cree Brothers willcome in and help. Yeah, I
mean so I earlier where because youwere saying if Solo was in this and
then his three members of Plugline.It's a feared that'd be too much,
But I do think there's a goodchance that we get the Creed Brothers possibly
flank by I mean out, ButI do think the three brothers will come
down and will assist Chad Gable.As I said, maybe we'll get more

(01:03:06):
answers and more development on us onMonday. But the last we've seen from
these guys was speaking backstage where ChadGabel says to them, I'm not okay.
I need help, and help hemight get. So I'm also going
with the Chad Gable. I knowit's a long shot. I think Carmelo
Hayes and Jay Husso are probably smartmoney, partially, says Table Well because

(01:03:28):
partially because, as I said,they both have the catchiest things to go
on to make that Money in theBank is gonna sell out, and Mellow
in the Bank would also sell out. What about Master in the Bank?
Master in the Bank can work forGable, but but it's not as good.
You know we're talking, we're talkingTop three. Yeah, we're La
Knight. I think La Knight it'ssmart that he's in this match. The

(01:03:51):
crowd's gonna go crazy for him.But I do think Logan Paul will will
get involved and we'll get off lA. Knight, and that's where the
story I think we're gonna get to. It's it's not just about the title
with them, there's headiness involved,you know. So so Logan Paul was
was so pissed last night that notonly did he lose, but the La

(01:04:13):
Knight won, right, Yeah,So I think they have their own storyline
that he doesn't need a money inthe bank to get to Paul. I
do think La Knight is going tobe the one to take the belt off
of him. I think at thatpoint they have to do this, right,
Well, we don't need a moneyin the bank for him to go
for the United States Championship, right. If anything, I wouldn't want I

(01:04:34):
don't mind it when the United StatesChampion becomes mister money in the bank.
I believe we saw that in thepast with Yeah, I don't mind that
either, But like, I don'twant somebody to be mister money in the
bank and then win a quote unquotemid card title. Yeah, they've already
got their head looking in the past, you know, in the future.
So it's like, yeah, Iwouldn't want that so La Night. I

(01:04:55):
think it's taken out by Logan Paulonce again. Smart money I think is
on Jay's so or Carmelo Hayes.I'm going with Gable. I'm going with
you. I think I think Gablehas really worked his ass off in the
past six months. He's earned thisspot. He's earned this shot. You
gotta get, you gotta hope.So poor guy, poor fucking guy,

(01:05:18):
just give him, Like, yeah, Yo, you're saying that. God
Mark cracks me up every freaking time. I know it doesn't like you saying
every time you say it. I'mjust like, Yep, this guy got
murked. All right. Uh,let's get into Cody Rhodes, Randy or
Kevin Owens taken on the blood Ledtwo point oh. It will be three

(01:05:39):
members. We don't know who thosethree members will be. If I had
to guess, I would say IfI had to guess, I'd say Tongolowa
probably unfortunately takes the backseat and theygo Solo, Tama and Jacob Fatu,
only because I think love comes outof the top, right. If they

(01:06:02):
were going to give the loss tothe blood Line, I think Solo would
probably take the manager role or maybeJacob bat because those are the two you
got to protect right now. Butyeah, I I that's that's what I
would go. My guess is weget a better idea of who's facing who
this Fridaan's backdown right, So you'regoing Bloodline. I believe blood Line wins.

(01:06:28):
I think blood that has to winbecause once again we believe the setup
is Cody versus Solo. For SummerSlamto do that, the blood really Solo
should pin Cody. But really ifthe if, if Bloodline wins the match,
that should be enough for Sola toget his match. Uh. Yeah,

(01:06:48):
I agree with you. I thinkthe blood Line has to win.
I think like we have Jacob Fatoo. Now, like you said, we
don't you know and or or whatever, but I just think like this is
the way you do it. Thishas to be it. We have to
establish the bloodline. They just gotrid of Paul Hayman or put him through

(01:07:09):
the paid table like all that stuff. So I feel like the Bloodline needs
to stay strong before before a bigloss. So they yeah, they might
have Jacob Fatu be the fourth man, the manager only because then Jacobatu could
influence the finish from outside, similarto what Solo used to do back in

(01:07:30):
the day, basically be his enforcerand kind of established himself as an X
factor, where if Jacobatus in thematch, like they're already establishing him as
an en ring threat, which iskind of why I assume he'd be in
the match. You've signed this thisbeast who can go, you put him
in. But at the same time, that doesn't really help anything as far

(01:07:53):
as Solo. So if Jacobatu helpsSolo get to win on Toby in this
match from outside now we're looking atwell ship they might do that at something
catch me off sad uh said Zanedefending his championship against braun a Breaker.

(01:08:14):
John has chimed in he's got bronBreaker de throating Sammy Zay taking the championship.
Do you agree with salty soces Doyou think Sammy zandertaine I thought you
said deep throat? What I said? You said deep throat? You said

(01:08:35):
deep throat. I was like,what I thought you sneak? I was
like, what is she list?Yeah, you hear what you want to
hear? Dan yell okay, soundsright what you want it sounds right?
Right? Uh? Yeah, Ithink this is Broun's time. I think
Brown is is uh is taking thebelt from Sammy. I think, yeah,

(01:09:00):
I think this is what they're leadingup to. They didn't pull the
trigger with Gable, and because theydidn't do that, I only assume that
this is Braun's time. So yeah, I'm going bron breaker as well.
It's interesting only because like, likethat what you said in fact, that
they didn't pull the trigger around Gable, that's almost what makes me think they

(01:09:25):
can't pull the trigger on Bron here. With that said, like and now
it's sort of thing because like I'mreverse engineering this. It's like I don't
think like if they were going totake the title of Samdy, they would
have just pulled the trigger with Gablebecause they had it right there. They're
not gonna ignore everything they had therejust to give them a few more weeks

(01:09:48):
so Sammy can get it on Braun. Yes, they would, I think
they would. I think Braun hasbeen the dominant force, like look how
like monster he is, and Ithink this is what they were leading up
to. Unfortunately, run Lebron waskind of like feuding with Ilia consistently and

(01:10:08):
Ricochet. You know, Ricochet getsbrought off, but then that was kind
of in ricochet protecting him from Ilia, So who knows. Maybe, I'm
like that's almost I'm now starting tosecond guest myself. I'm thinking Ilia doesn't
make it because bron lost Ilia thatmatch for no reason. Also, Broun
did just take out Seamus and uhmood with the other night, so really

(01:10:29):
there's a lot of people that couldwant to cost bonm this match. So
I'm sticking with Sammy. I thinkSammy retains. Okay, maybe Summer Slam
Sammy drops it, but I thinkit's too soon. That takes us into
the final match left for us totalk about, at least provided they don't
add a six, and I don'tthink they will since the ladder matches do

(01:10:50):
tend to take a decent amount oftime. Uh Damian Priest versus Seth Freaking
rolland they went ahead and added anextra OO to this match. Seth Rowinds
loses this match, he will nolonger be able to challenge for the championship.
Wild Damian Priest is champions. However, if Damian Priest loses the championship,

(01:11:12):
he will leave the judgment day.Speaking of we have glossed over and
we don't have to get too intoit. But the Judgment Day once together,
once again in a position to runraw because Finn Balor and Jadie mcgonnod
are now the tag team champions.So Damien, I'm sorry the Judgment Day
once again bathed in gold. Willthat continue after money? At the fact,

(01:11:35):
right right, John Donne to kickthis off, he thinks Damian Priest
retains, I'll count beyond retains.Do you want me to go first?
Do you want to go first?Sure? You to go first. I
agree with John. I think DamianRiace does win. They went into this

(01:11:57):
so quick. I gotta believe theyjust want it's set to be to be
the guy to put Damien Priest over. I like the Guns to established himself
in their segment un raw by comingin and saying it doesn't matter. I
love it when someone's been in theposition to almost big time the champ and
Gun they're gonna do that because he'sthe king of the ring, and whoever

(01:12:17):
does win, this isn't Yeah,you're fighting for the championship, but really,
guys, you're fighting for who facesme. So he's so good,
he's so good, he's so good, he's so articulate with his words,
and he's so like, he's sogood when he's like talking to them,
because also I know sometimes like whenyou have an accent, and sometimes you

(01:12:38):
know there there can be like ifif you're rushing to say words or stuff.
Like he speaks slow and certain,and he's so confident when he speaks
that, h he's gonna be sucha great fucking champ. He gets it,
he gets it. He so getsit, like he ignores the crowd
when he needs to, like hedoesn't let them falter him, like he's

(01:12:59):
so right. Uh So I think, wait, did you do your breag?
U said Damien right at the dampeople win. I will say this
though, one last thing and thenand then off to you when Damian Priest,
when Damian Priest said, and hesaid this before to the Judgment Day,
but for some reason him saying tosomeone else in a ring without the
Judgment Day, and I guess thecrowd responding to it as well, but

(01:13:23):
it hit different when David Priest's listen, I'm the champ. Judgment Day needs
me way more than I need them. Sure, if I lose, I'll
leave them. I don't care.So I do think he'll win. But
I do think, especially now withBen and JD getting belts of their own,
we might be seeing the Judgment Daydecide we don't need you as much

(01:13:43):
as you think, right right,and maybe and listen, maybe Judgment Day
does decide to cost Damien Priest thechampionship. I don't think it happens here,
but that might be where we're heading. You forgot you need us way
more without us, no bell byebye else time beyond right right, I
could see that happening. I thinkDamien's retaining. I think this. I

(01:14:06):
think this is one of those thingswhere we've been talking about a lot how
John chimed in a lot on thisrecently, how he was saying, like
every time Damien wins, it's alwayslike something happened or seam Punk came or
something happened with him, Like there'salways something happening where he isn't winning on

(01:14:26):
his own or something like that.Where I feel like this match, I
feel like he will beat Seth cleanand he will establish himself as a champion
that doesn't need anybody else. SoI think I think Damian and I think
Seth is the perfect person to showthat that Damien is a champion like Seth
will take the l to establish Damien. I hope they don't make it a

(01:14:51):
shady wind though, like because yeah, I don't like they protected Damien Priest
in the match against Room, butat the same time, seem Punk did
save his belt. We need thisto not be this case for this because
we it does feel already like DamianPriest is already winding down his champion champion,

(01:15:15):
so we want at the very leasthas reigned to make him seem like
a commona champion so that he doesn'tjust fall back down that ladder when his
time with the belt is over.Yes, agreed. All right, let's
get into the Forbidden Door pay perviews happening this Sunday and we will be
it. Woo. That's right tobe a good one. This is gonna

(01:15:39):
be a packed one. We justtalked about a five match w W card.
I'm looking at thirteen matches on thiscard. Yeah, there's a lot,
so we gotta go through him fast. Yeah. We got Chris Statlander
and Big Mambo with of course,so we had the way versus Will and
Nigel and and Naconno. Oh,I'm going uh, Chris stat Leonard with

(01:16:09):
Stogla and Momo. Yeah actually yeah, yeah that was adorable so funny.
I don't know. Actually, fuck, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.

(01:16:30):
Well, you're gonna go, willThey're gonna get that lick back?
Yeah, I'm going well, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, sorry.
We got Mariah May with Timeless,Tony Storm and Luther and Mina Sherik
Calla with Versus Sorea with Harley Cameronand a Jade. Meanwhile, this past

(01:16:54):
week, we saw Mariah May accidentallyget laid out by me to cheer at
Cow because she was trying to hitTony's Timeless Tony Storm within the bottle.
Timeless gave it the duke, thelittle shoe a little two step, and
Mariah May got whack of a dude. I loved all your on amn Apia's

(01:17:15):
right there like that. So muchhappening. Oh, Mike, So did
you pick who's winning? Well?Who I'm waiting for you to pick.
You know, I always have togo first. Can we go back and
forth with you go first? ThenI go first. We can go back
and forth, but but you gofirst. I'll go first on this one,
Okay, I think I think Mariahis winning. Yeah, I'm going

(01:17:45):
Maria. I think Mariah. Ithink this is because she can be she's
gonna be in like after she's she'sallowed to be at ringside to support Mina
and Tony. So I think youActually I disagree. I don't can I
can I fish my story? Thankyou? No, thank you, thank

(01:18:06):
you. So I think it willbe cool if she has like she's a
winner for the next round and thenthey're on her side. So yeah,
I'm going that, who are youpicking? Wait? Say it again.
I think it's cool that she's gonnaadvance in the next round and she's gonna
be in Tony and Mina's book supportingboth of them after coming off a win.

(01:18:27):
So I am going with Soraya toadvance, Okay, And I'll tell
you why, Tell me why?Please? Because Timeless Tony Storm and Mina
shared how up will be facing eachother later, and so I think it
just makes sense that they're gonna likeget into it at ringside while trying to
like help Mariah. That's gonna distractMariah and that will cost Mariah and they're

(01:18:53):
just going to continue and it's gonnalead us to go into that match later
wondering who Mariah is gonna help becausethey both fucked it, got it?
Okay, see, I'm going withSoraya to advance in the Owen Heart Okay,
los Ango burn not less stage andversus the Luca Brothers and Mistico taking

(01:19:19):
each other on in a trios match, I will kick this one off for
our agreement. I do believe theLuca Brothers are gonna take this one.
Lucia Brothers really deserve like it's Idon't want to say deserve more because I
feel like I'm always saying that.But just this is just one of those
Maxan's gonna remind us how good theyreally are all over again Mystico as well.

(01:19:43):
So yeah, I'm going with theLucha Bros. I disagree, all
right, Yeah, yeah, I'mI'm going into this before we start going
through all the other ones. Ithink this is gonna be a heavy fave
on the New Japan winning. Ifeel like this is GCW all over again,
where all these people are gonna lose. There are gonna be some wins
for AW, but I feel likethey're gonna let New Japan win a lot.

(01:20:06):
I think they're gonna win a lotmore. Than they should. Yeah,
so I'm going lows Ingle Bernables towin. I guess that does make
sense logic wise. Yeah, UnfortunatelyI don't like it, but I feel
like that's what's gonna happen. Allright, how about we get into the
ladder man for the T n TChampionship. We got Takashta, we got

(01:20:33):
Briscoe, we got Jack Perry,we got Dante Martin, Leo Rush,
and the last number was decided thispast week. It is elphant asmo Oh.
Yeah, I go for sorry withour T and T championship. So
this is this is my theory.I mean, this is my my way.

(01:20:56):
My brain is working. I feellike Mark Briscoe is gonna win.
I feel like Mark Briscoe is gonnawin because we just champions reigning r OH
World Champion. Because I feel likenow he'll have two belts and now he'll
have to have a rematch with KyleFletcher, who just lost his r OH
TV championship, and then Kyle Fletcherwill beat Mark Briscoe maybe at dishonor wait

(01:21:21):
what is it called death before dishonorat the end of July, and he
will become the ro OH Champion.So that is my speaking because we are
not carrying having Mark Briscoe carrying aroundtwo belts. He's not on r oh
as Is and barely on it.So I think it's going to be Mark
brisco I love that theory. Ilove your confidence thinking and I have no

(01:21:42):
problem with that. I also haveno problem with and I'm just trying to
manifest it. Leo Rush winning itbecause I love Leo Rush. I love
Leo Rush too. I'm happy he'sin this match. I'm really fard to
him in this match. Yeah,However, I gotta be honest. I
don't think there's any doubt. There'sno way Jack Perry doesn't. Yeah.
I looked at it and I waslike Jack Perry, but I'm like nah,

(01:22:03):
I was like, I'm gonna gowith my fun one, all right,
listen. I love your fun oneand I'll root for it. But
I do think Jack Perry, Yeah, it's probably Jack to the elite.
The way they're pushing him, theway they're pushing that stable, it's gotta
be escapego Jack Perry. Yeah,I mean, I mean it's gotta be.

(01:22:24):
But I like my theory. Ithink it's fun, but I think
it's fun as we since we reviewr o H and we just saw Kyle
Fletcher lose. Like, maybe ifKyle Fletcher didn't just lose the TV Championship,
maybe I would have a different thing. But I like that you're incorporating
that. Yeah, yeah, I'mincorporating it, and I think it would
be fun like and I think KyleFletcher should be r o H Champion,

(01:22:46):
World champion. Tuh. Let's joketo the Learning Tree. Chris Jericho and
Big Bill and Jeff Cobb with BrianKeith. They're gonna take on some over.
Joe. I got to your botthat in a trio's match, Sure
you got man. I love JeffCobb. Oh do I go first?

(01:23:08):
I do go first? You dogo first. I'm trying to make me
go first. I think this isgonna be another win for the Learning Tree.
I don't I don't necessarily want itto go that way, but I
do think that's what will happen.So yeah, I'm gonna go Chris Jericho,
team Jered Cooe. I'm not goingteam Jericho. I'm going team Samoa

(01:23:32):
Hook. I just yeah, Iuh, I think they're gonna win.
I don't, man, I loveJeff Cobb though, I freaking love Jeff
Cobb. People sleep on Jeff Cobb. He's so good, You're the best.
He's such a beast. It mightbe more so because I don't want
Chris Jericho to win. But yeah, I think Samoa Joe. I think

(01:23:55):
Hook's gonna get I think Hook's gonnaget a little revenge. So yeah,
I'm I'm gonna go Samoa Hook.If they were tag team, they should
be Samoa Hook and that should betheir finisher, the hook. Yeah,
I don't know what it would be, but it would be something cool like
a fish hook. Definitely a submission, Oh, submission with a fish hook.

(01:24:16):
It would be a submission with afish hook. Yeah. How about
m j A fort just catch yousettle taking them on in a singles match?
Who you got? This is toughtoo because I feel like MJF should
have a win, but I feellike they're gonna give it to now.

(01:24:41):
They're gonna show that MJF is dominant. I think MJF is gonna win.
Yeah, there's not a doubt.Yeah, like they can't. Yeah,
Yeah, I don't think Jeff anyoneanytime soon. Yeah, let's go with
Zach Saber Junior taking on Orange Capacityand this one, I will go with

(01:25:01):
the Outsider. I will go withZach Saber Junior to defeat Our Cassidy.
Me too, Me too. Uh. You know Zach Saber Junior Mario from
Lucher Outsider's all time favorite wrestler.Yeah, I can't believe he doesn't like
he's so good right. He alsotook a heel Mark sticker from me and
said I would love one. WhenI asked him if he wanted one,

(01:25:25):
he said I would love one.That's what he said. So Zach Saber
Junior has my heart. Uh.Yeah, I definitely think this is this
is gonna be a good match.I think I think like this is gonna
be a good submission match. Yeah, I'm going Zack Saber Junior as well.
I think they're unfortunately feeding Orange Cassieto him. Yeah, but you

(01:25:45):
know what, they've kept Our Cassidystrong for the people that he can take
this right definitely, especially like characterwise as well. Uh. Let's move
on to the ae W him InChampionship. Mariah May, assuming she's okay
after her match, will be atringside supporting both competitors. Tiloss Tony Storm

(01:26:10):
defending her championship against me and aShia Kawa me or uh no, you
did Zach Saber Junior first, Soit's my turn. I don't think Tony's
losing it yet. I gotta goTony on this one. There might be
some funnyduddy at play, but Tonyis overall gonna win. I think.
Yeah, I agree. I thinkTony wins. It might require Mariah to

(01:26:33):
pick a side uh and and standfirmly behind Tony Storm. I hope that
that doesn't necessarily happen because I likethe dynamic Mariah has with both women.
Uh too, you think timeless TonyStorm eats her championship? Uh? Do
you think John Moxley keeps his It'sJohn Moxley defending his i w GP World

(01:26:56):
Anyway championship against Let's see a nightthough I don't know. You have to
go first? Oh fine, Ibelieve there was Colonel Mustard in the study.
I believe no Nito will take thetime. I one hundred percent agree.
I think this is one of thosecases where the quote unquote outsider,
even though this is their championship.Yeah, I think Nido's gonna win.

(01:27:20):
This is gonna be a good match. I freaking love Nido big time,
big time. This was gonna begreat. Uh, Mercedes Monet taking on
Stephanie Backer. This is gonna bea winner eight saw match for both the
AWTTS Champage Up and the njp WStraw Women's Championship. The very Championship.
Mercedes Monet was apparently supposed to aboutlast year when she got hurt. I

(01:27:45):
think I think, unfortunately, MercedesMonett is gonna win. And I don't
mean that in a bad way thatMercedes, but I think like they're really
handing Mercedes is silver, like handingus her on a silver platter, and
she's gonna get everything. I dothink. I do think Britt Baker is
close to returning. So I don'tknow, maybe Britt Baker will come out
for this and be like hey,or she'll come out for Tony. But

(01:28:10):
I know Britt Baker is close tocoming back, and I don't know why
they wouldn't immediately put her in thetitle picture since she's beloved by everyone.
So yeah, agree, I thinkthey're they're putting it all her sadies,
They're putting it all. They're doingit real quick. Yeah, I think
they're doing it real quick with her. I don't necessarily love it, but
I get it if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, let's get into

(01:28:33):
the last trios match fir Ust totalk about. We got the elite,
the elite. It's the young Bucksand this her Ace Wee guy, probably
Pastor the acclaimed, and with Daddyit's Philly done in the Countess. I

(01:28:58):
don't think. I don't think theElder loses. I don't think they can.
No, the league is not losing. It's gonna be a fun one.
But yeah, I think the elitedefinitely take. And because Okada was
new Japan, it's not gonna belike, oh, we're just giving all
a w wins or any of thatbullshit. Because yeah, this match is
gonna be super fun. I'm excitedto see Ton Hashey. I love Ton

(01:29:19):
Hashi. Yeah, there's no wayOkada's losing like the eliteics. But okay,
specific we got no no no.I was just gonna say, I
feel like, unfortunately Scissory, Ifeel like they're just like feeding them to
the It's a fun you know it. It's gonna be a fun match.
I gotta say Meg's over tournament.First round match. We got Brian Danielson

(01:29:44):
taken on Shingo Brian Danielson Shingo.Hm hmm. Well this is me to
go first. I can go.I think Brian Damis is gonna Yeah.
I think Brian Nielsen is gonna win. Oh yeah. Imitation is the sincerest

(01:30:10):
form of flattery. Well, Iflattery. Swerve Strickland the aw champion defending
it against will ospray. I assumethis will be our main ef as it
should be. Yeah, this isone hundred percent of the main event unless
the elitos, and that's just gonnabe a crazy trios match to end,

(01:30:32):
right. I think she entertaining.I don't Yeah, I think she entertaining.
I don't think they're taking it offhim yet. Swerve, I'm sorry,
I said Shane. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree.
I think Swerve Britain. I thinkthis is going to be a banger.
Yeah, this is a really goodone. I think, like Swerve,

(01:30:59):
Strickland might use will Osprey's own movesthat beat him, the move he refused
to use anymore because he adds feelingsnow and so they might use this continue
the evolution of will Osprey trying tobe human and Swerve Strickland not giving a
buck. Yeah, I think that'sa great way to look at it.

(01:31:23):
I think that's one hundred percent goingto be what's going to happen. Uh.
Yeah, I think this is gonnabe a banger match. I think
this is gonna be one of thebest best matches of the night. I
also think that Brian Danielson and Shinglematch is gonna be really good. I
think that's gonna be a really goodmatch. That's gonna be. One thing

(01:31:46):
they're able to do, especially atForbidden Door, is put together a fire
car. It's gonna be Yeah,I want to say that. I feel
like will Ospray will eventually take itfrom Swerve, but I'm not one hundred
percent sure Will off Spray is definitelyin line to be champion. I just
don't know if it's gonna be Swerve. He's gonna take it from right,

(01:32:09):
But yeah, I don't I don'tthink they should take it off Swarp yet.
Yeah. I'm really yep. I'mreally excited, Like this is gonna
I'm really looking forward to seeing thislive. I'm looking forward to Money in
the bank. These are two plsI'm really excited to see. Well,
I guess it's pay per view forfor well you know what I mean,
and we get to be there liveeveryone. Thank you so much for tuning

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