Episode 265 - Dom’s in the Doghouse - Heel Marks: A Wrestling Podcast

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Together we are the heal Marks.Welcome to another edition, and this
is gonna be a good one because, oh man, so many shows to
talk about, so many things totalk about. So much has happened in

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this past week. Guys, howare you feeling about all the wrestling of
the past week. So much wrestlingto talk about, so much good wrestling
to talk about. For a change, I feel like I'm not going to
be complaining too much this time around. No, I have nothing to complain
about. It's been pretty the board, I know. Oh yeah, we've

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got history in the vacant people.It's funny the beau daniel because you mentioned
like for a change, like justnot stop good wrestling. We had three
pay per view slash p l esin like this past like a week and
a half to span, and allthree of them really delivered. So yeah,

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we got spoiled this past week onehundred per uh. So much to
talk about, so much to getinto, Danielle, you and I were
at the first pay per view dooand to occur this past week, so
we'll get into that. First,we were at Forbidden Door. Forbidden Door
was just a great show once again, as Triple H. I don't think

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he was trying to mention it,but I think he was cognizant of what
people are going to take it as. But even he mentioned how like,
you know, we like to doa five show, you know, we
I don't really like it when it'slike a seven hour show. Aw is
still doing it. I know thatyou in particular can sometimes get to that

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that point where you're like, okay, too much. Yeah, but but
really and and we you know,we didn't go for the pre show.
We waited until the show started.First match we saw where the Luca brothers,
uh and that tag team match.Well, yeah, because there are
thirteen matches or a thousand matches andwe saw eleven of them. Yeah,

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there there was a lot of matches, right, So I still saw like
all the matches, which I think, off the top of my head might
be more than money in the Bagand NX the heat Wave combined. Yeah,
probably that sounds right. Yeah,Yeah, there was a lot.
I will say, even though therewas a lot, I feel like this

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pay per view was very well paced. I didn't really feel like there was
a lull ever. And when theywhen there was that like quote unquote pea
break match, I feel like thatwas a purposeful pee break break match,
Like everybody got up for the Jerichomatch, Like everybody got up to go
to the bathroom for that match,or go good food or go get a
drink. And I think that wasjust you know, and we all were

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like that heat one. Jericho's real. Like, And I'll say this as
as somebody who's been a long timeJericho fan throughout his entire career, I
do appreciate the commitment he's making tillonce again reinvent himself, created new Chris
Jericho, a new character. He'scommitting to the waves that just being so

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handy and over the top. SoI do applause the effort he's he's putting
into it in the commitment. Withthat said, nothing he's doing is getting
them to boo. They're booing becausethey're fucking sick of him, at least
the live crowd that we were there. That's the way I thought, Yeah,
nobody cared about that match. Yeah, no, nobody cared at all.

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Nobody cared about that match. Nobodycared what was going Joe kind of
saved it or wait, am Iconfused? Yeah? Oh no, okay,
yeah, so yeah, Jo kindof saying only because he's just a
magician when it comes to connecting withan audience, reading them. He reads
the room better than most that doit. So Samoa Joe, you know,

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was was able to do what hecould. But good god, yeah,
you're right, Like this was theamount of people that just completely left
their seats, and like one ofour friends that we were with was even
like talking about how that one matchhad the longest fucking food lines, Like
every single food stand had the hugestlines during that match the entire show.

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That didn't happen the entire show.It was the breaks. It was while
the video packages. Everyone rush rushedto get their stuff and rushed back because
they didn't want to mix the match. That was the one match nobody was
there for, which kind of mademe said, since I love hook and
I love Jeff Cobb and I loveSamoa Joe, So it really made me
said, even big Big Bill,like I was okay with everybody else in

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that match. It's just yeah,Jericho, nobody cared about this there.
Yeah, People just him. Yeah. They resent that he's still there,
they resent he's taking Team Tam,they resent that at the very least he
is perceived to have sway in thecompany. They resent everything about him.

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I wonder if they would have turnedon him this much hack he not changed
Judas, because it does seem likeeven when they hated him, that song
was just like they couldn't listen toit without saying, I know you hate
that song. Let me ask Johnthat the one member of this trio that
was not on the show was watchingit from the comfort of your own home.

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What match stood out to you asnot even your match of the night,
but biggest surprise for you? Becauseyou said you like this match?
So which match were you not evenexpecting to like as much? You're like,
oh shit, I say, ChrisJeriica, But hell, the match
that if I'm gonna be honest,the match that I that I thought was

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gonna be over hyped was the Swervematch and I actually liked it, and
I thought I would. I thoughtit was gonna be the typical like shit
that I hate about aaw when itwas a great match spotfest. Yeah,
but it wasn't think it. Ithink it really like. It really solidified
Swerve as a champion and made willOff Spray look good. Everybody looked good

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in this. I think they complimenteach other very well, and I think
they both have really good chemistry together. Yeah. No, this this was
a banger of a main event.And we talked already about how this card
overall, it was a great,great show. We'll obviously get into other
matches that happened, but with thismain event, you could tell these guys

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took the position very seriously. Right. They knew there was a lot of
pressure they were following this match,this Superstar, these dream matches, this
title change, so they they knewthat they had big shoes to fill in
this spot. And all, mygod, did they deliver. And once

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again, just from being there,they had us all in the palm of
our hands. We were standing,we were jumping, we were holding each
other like this match really had usat times not knowing what was going to
happen, right right, I was, Yeah, I was. I was
very excited about this match. Ithought it absolutely delivered I as a whole.

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This There's besides, like I said, the Jericho match. I if
I had to pinpoint another match thatI was extremely disappointed in, it was
definitely the John Moxley and Ido match. I was looking forward to that match
and that match that that's another match, that's a match that fell flat for
me. It wasn't necessarily like Jerko, I was like, I don't care

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about this match. This match Icared about and it didn't deliver on my
part, and I was very upset. You know. Yeah, I would
say it was a bit underwell yeah, in terms of but just to just
to go back to because I feellike we kind of just skim past it,
uh, Swerve, Strickland, willOspra, I really do just want
to want to go back to thisbecause, like once again, like I

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really bought into will Ospray as asSwerve's toughest test yet. And I'm not
even talking about title defenses. Swerve'sentire aw run and all the people who's
battled and how he's climbed the ladderto get to this point. This did
stand out to me as the toughestbattle, and I think it was portrayed

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that way intentionally where they wanted tomake because will Ospray has kind of been
one of those guys that doesn't needa title to be portrayed as the best
in the world. There are certainwrestlers that can kind of like, for
example, there have been times andwe've we've kind of shoot on it here,
but when the young Bucks Will Ranthey have a match with like FTR
and neither of them will be tagchampion, but they will be saying this

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match is to determine the best tagteam in the world, and you kind
of can't help but roll your eyes. You're like, where's the goal?
That kind of happens with will Ospray, And I kind of think it's justifiable
a rant like you know, andKenny Omega is another one where he'll,
like a win over him kind ofclassifies as a win over one of,
if not the best in the world. That's kind of what I took from

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this would swerve to Ospray. SoI think it's a huge knock for his
title reign. Oh yeah, onehundred percent. I also think that having
him go against will Off Spray,since we said we were a lot of
people were kind of nervous. They'relike, oh my god, they're just
going to give Willolf Spray his titleimmediately, Like is he going to become
aw champ immediately? And we allknow, like you just said, he
doesn't need a title necessarily to showthat he's one of the best in the

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world. And for him be thebest in the world, he is very
convincing as a person that can takethe title away from Swerve. So when
you're watching it, you're like,oh, yeah, Swerve is definitely winning.
But there were moments where you definitelyhad like moments where you're like,
shit, is well going to win. I will say I think the ending
went on a little too long,like yeah, it was so much the

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hair the hair too long where Iwas like, okay, guys, let's
bring it home, like all right, I get it. You kicked out.
Oh you kicked out again, Likelet's bring it home like it's time.
But other than that, that matchwas so much fun to watch.
I was engaged the whole time.I had fun interacting with everybody around us,
like it was just such a greatmatch and we've got that's something that's
like you've come to expect with awthere's gonna be eighteen kickouts, but you

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know that that means you're getting closeto the end, right. But I
feel like this one was a littleover, like over. I was like
okay, okay, okay. Thebig takeaway after this harried over to Dynamite,
where Will Ospray leaves the don Kallisfamily due to Don kas Ballman in
the match Kyle Fletcher, who wasalways been a Will Ospray loyal let's back

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to their time before aw showing kindof mixed emotions as he had he's still
with Don Kallis. Also, DonKallas did make a point to point out
in this segment that I don't oftenlet people at him family like this,
but because of the respect that Ihave to, I'll let you go,
which kind of lets us know thatKyle Fletcher, if he does choose to

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leave the doc Coals family to joinWill, it's not going to be so
easy for him and possibly Will sothis you know, I kind of have
my eyes on what happens with Kyleand Will. If Kyle Fletcher has to
turn on Will, I will cry. I will shed its one tier because
one tier friendship, one old tierfilled with salt, because I will be

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so salty if that happens. Ilove their friendship. I also loved the
match that saw Mercedes Monet become adouble champion, Mercedes Monet versus Stephanie Becker.
Uh, John, were you familiarwith Backer before this match? No,
I just saw her come out.But the last pay per view that

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that people were just kind of like, oh yeah, I didn't know who
that was. I wasn't familiar withher either, right, Danielle were talking
about that actually with Mario lu Trousaderas we saw him at the show,
and we were all kind of talkingabout it, and so to get into
this Max to Stephanie really blew alot of us away, Like I'm not

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talking about us like that arena.You could you could feel them like new
fans being being one over born.Yeah, new fans were born. I
was definitely, I definitely became afan like Mercedes every with Mercedes Monete,
every time I watch her, I'mlike, man, she's got it,
Like she's so talented in the ring, and Stephanie Vager, like they really

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brought the best out of each other, and I was blown away with how
talented this woman is. Like itwas. It was really amazing to watch
her. And I don't often it'snot even bring it up. I don't
even think I often think about itbecause a lot of times it does happen
more and more in indie wrestling andaw and everything else, especially with these
forbidden doors or or portals or whateverthey're called. But this is the first

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time these two worked together, andI thought it was just instant chemistry,
instant for two people that and whoknows how many conversations they've had considering.
Stepanie to my knowledge, doesn't speakEnglish, so you know what I mean,
like this is possibly no, she'sChilean and to my I've never seen
her speak English. I don't believeshe does. But yeah, I think

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the big talking point about this,and we were kind of dumbfounded as it
happened, was the fans completely turningon Mercedes Morale. Oh ye, which
has carried over to dynamite. Thisis this the fans turned her heel.
Here's the weirdest thing about that fromfrom people that from the live point of

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view there, I still don't knowwhy it acts like because when Mercedes came
out, the fans were all abouthere, big pop, big reaction to
the entrance. They were chanting CEOa lot in that that first half of
the match, and then out ofnowhere, and then all anyone was telling

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me was that, oh, it'sbecause she's from Boston. It's so she's
from Boston. I'm like, shewas from Boston the second she got here,
you know, fifteen minutes, theyprobably forgot, They probably forgotten just
wanted to rout because the Celtics won, and they were like, fuck Celtics.
The nick mind and that's what everyoneand that's what essentially happened. And
there were a lot of fuck theCeltics chants, there was the Red Sox

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chants all of a sudden, andit really did feel like they were just
everyone collectively remembered, oh, wehate Boston, they win too much.
Hugh Mercedes and turned on her,and she of course went with it.
And I think she might have evenjust had not even for this match,
but just always be ready for it. She knows how to handle that kind
of shit. But I still don'treally know why it happened. But here

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we tell we are in a heelMercedes. Well, it's almost like they
foreshadowed brit Baker coming back and theywere like, well, we have to
make Mercedes heel because we have tolove brid Baker now that she back.
It was like they subconsciously knew it. It's not even like she was wearing
like self esteemed gears. It expectthat from her, but like, no,

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like this crowd. I will saythat I thought the gud was fun.
They were very It was a funcrowd. And listen. That heel
turn was a fun like the crowdturning on her rather was fun thing to
experience and to witness as a fanbecause A she did go with it.
B I always do like a matchmore when there is a clear heel in

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a face dynamic, it lets thecrowd get behind somebody and and and hate
on another. So when the fansdecided they hated Mercedes, they decided,
oh wait, we love back it, and and every every move she hit
that the crowd popped to hate evenmore. And then when Mercedes Monette is
getting a ring showered in booze holdingher Bowl titles up, it helped the

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pot that Britt Baker like it helpedit just that much. So so yeah,
this was a fun moment. MaybeStephanie won them over and then they
were like, fuck Mercedes, andthat might have that might have been it.
That might have been it. Maybethey were more CEO because they just
didn't really Stephanie was still in theunknown category. You know. It was

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pretty wild to watch. Yeah,it was fun. Yeah, but it
was yeah, und you said itbest. It was wild to experience.
I remember at some points, justas they're just fucking hating and booing and
fucking. I'm like turning around like, Wow, how did this happen?
And why Long Island? That's whatit is? Strong Islan definitely, Here's

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here's one thing I want to talkabout before we move on to another match,
because I I think and I wantedto talk about the match first because
it was a great one. Iwanted to give it the time. However,
this to me is a big aeW fumble. This is ridiculous and
this is what separates them from WWE, because WWV would never let this shit
happen. They put Stephanie Backer on. We all, the three of us

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are all united in that we didnot really know her, but we are
new fans. As I said,we talked with other podcasts, other fans.
They felt the same way. AdW gave her a huge fucking platform,
and I gotta believe they did nottreat her like the stars they should
have treated her like in terms ofjust everything. I'm not even just talking

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about booking, just her experiences workingwith them, because you look at Jordan
Grace and the way she speaks sohighly of how good everyone's been in Shan
Michaels and the treatment she's had firstclass flights. This that they're they're showing
out for her in like the lessthan five appearance. She said, when
her contract does explain, there's nodoubt she's gonna go to w WT because

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they treated her like a star,right, Adie w had their chance with
Stephanie Backer in the fact that aweek and a half later, John Michaels
just made it official and tweeted thatStephanie Backer, I'll see you in Orlando
soon, congratulates on that's signing withWWE, like a w you already you
are? Yeah, what are youdoing? Yeah? Because you put her

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on and there's no no one willconvince me the w W was on her.
She was on their radar before this. I mean, but then you
look at like she dropped the title. So did she drop the titles because
she was already promised to WWE.Well, no, she just today dropped
the other championships. She had herCmuble, l Chip, her NJPW championships,

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like she just got yeah, becauseshe has lots of belts. I
forgot that as they announced, asthey announced that she's leaving them, she
just relinquished her belts. So sheyet she dropped the strong belt because they
wanted to put it on on Mercedes. Yeah. I don't have the name
off the top of my head,but CMWL has a big show coming up

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that she was actually booked for andhad to say I'm sorry, but I
can't perform. They had to removeher from the card. So this is
very immediate. WW clearly bounced onher, got her to sign and was
like, Okay, we need youtomorrow. So what you're telling me is
aw is the Mark Sanchez of thiswhole thing. They butt fumbled hard,

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just big time, but fumble,like I said, like the idea of
put it like you made her looklike such a start, but doing that
with but doing that without being ableto secure her like whatever, Like I
you know, hopefully we hear morestories about it, but I have to
assume right now that whatever they didwas just not enough, and however they

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handled the situation was was wrong becausethis should never have been a question.
It should have been a layup foryou. She was there with you,
Like I don't I don't understand howthey let that have it? Yeah,
insane. And now and now she'sgonna come to w w B S a
big star. She's gonna hop intoNXT already made off one show're gonna HiPE

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off. They're going to hype offher cmublel appearances in n jp WA accolades
and all that kind of stuff.They're going to talk about how she's traveled
the world and this and that.But but AEW just gave her the biggest
United States she's ever had, andww's got her now crazy, it's insane,
crazy, crazy, yeah, movingon crazy in her own ways,

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timeless, Tony Storm defeating me andthat sirat Kawa and then everybody was the
winners because we got course, gota triple celebration, kiss the end,
pride months away. You do it, that's how you do it. I
can't believe you didn't set me upfor the en. Then they kiss.
I can't believe you why I was. I can't believe you. But that

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wasn't your big and then they kiss, You're big and they kiss. Moment
was during the fucking ladder match.Oh love that. It was jungle Boy.
It was a fucking Jeft Perry andsomebody I forget who, maybe Mark
Frisco actually, but whoever it was, Danielle screams, my kids, and
I don't know why maybe it wasfive month for everyone in a section who

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did not know Danielle or how longshe is. She has been streaming randomly
for fucking wrestlers to kiss each otherwhen everyone so agad gets them, gets
him like I've never had never seenthe kissing everyone literally literally when the three
way kiss happened, I was like, and then they kiss. I was

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so excited. I just want everyoneto kiss all the time, all the
time. Everybody got it, andyou got it. I got it.
Yeah, I was very excited.That match was really fine. I thought
it was a really good match.Her coming out the Empire staple ding not
the Statue of Liberty was like gold. I thought it was great. Yeah,
epic entrance. I do we haveso much to talk about. So

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if there's any other matches of thisguy's you want to get into, let's
do it. But I do wantto talk about not as much mjf's match
that he had, which was agood one. It was a fun one.
But let's talk about what happened onDynamite because heel ms is back is
a scumbag, was a stumbbag,will always be a scumbag. He just

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may no longer be our stumbbag.But MJF is back to be in the
man. Everyone loves the hate andDaniel Garcia is not happy. Man.
People love Daniel Garcia. I don'tget it, but people love him.
Yeah. I loved his match withwill Ospray and it did remind me why
everyone loved him, because the truthis, it has always been his ability

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first, and he's kind of alwayssurprised everyone with how good he's done in
his character work and the sports entertainmentaspects. However, he needs to stop.
But the dancing spine, it's over, so keep doing but the whole
dancing as a move where he likepelvic thrust into will Osprey's face that was
cringe. Please, let's take thatout of the repertoire. Do not included

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in a video game. Let's getrid of that one. Yeah, I'm
not a big fan of the dance. I think it's dumb and like,
if he was ever gonna do that, you do it on like a collision
match with Sir Pentaco. You donot do it in a fucking big time
match with one of the best inthe world, like will Ospray has been
established like that, like that hasbeen established in aw you can't tell me

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you're taking that match seriously if you'refucking hitting him in the face with your
dick. Yeah, yeah, I'mdefinitely yeah. But I do love I
do love the fact that MJF wasgoing so hard for Daniel Garcia, wanted
to help him win, try toget him cheat with the diamond ring because
they've got a match coming up,and if Daniel Garcia was to win this

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title, it would have been MJFwould have had a shot at the title.
So and j F is fucking pissed, you know what. I was
trying to play you like the woolyou are and you wouldn't let me.
Boom, I gotta kicks you inthe dick now. And then m j
F goes in and in and in. Uh, it looks like m j
F versus Will Osprey is on themenu soon and and I'm not mad at

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it. I'm not mad at it. Well, Off Spray is probably gonna
be the person who take uh swerveschampionship, not now, but he's gonna
be the one to do it,which kind of makes I think, Uh,
I think, I think mj thisis gonna be the one that takes
out of championship you think he's yeah, not yet, not yet, but
yeah, I do think that willhappen. I think they're gonna commit to

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swerve, so he'll he'll get pasta lot of other challengers. But but
when it's time for for Daddy tocome for for what did he call it?
The triple B? Yeah, Idefinitely think m J will be the
one to take it from him.But you know what, we've swerved as
the top face with will Ospray ashe big time face. With Daniel Garcia
getting over once again on his own, it makes perfect sense to turn that

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j heel again. They've got thespace for it. I love Heal,
I'm J. I like him muchbetter than face. He had to be
faced because absence made the heart growfonder when he left, I guess.
Also, he told his boss tofuck off on TV, called him a
mark, so everyone decided, ohmy god, we fucking love this asshole.
Also, he has such a punishableface, Oh my god. And

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he knows too, Yeah, heknows. Yeah, I have a punishable
face, and you know it thatshould have been Nobody made that a me?
How's nobody made? I mean,because he definitely hasn't him and freaking
John Moxley have the punishable faces,the most punishable faces, and he has
a very punishable face. No,he has a kissable face. The mill

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has a punishable face, big timepunable, even though I still want to
kis. I want to kiss itand hit it. It's funny. I
know you love Austin theory, butI think Austin theory kind of has a
punchable face too. I would whatI would say, kick a ball face,
John, What you got the mostpunchable face, most punishable face?

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Yeah, they get on your screen. You're like, oh, man,
I wish I was wrestler. Imean it's still uh, what's his fucking
name? The pot dude, MattRiddle. Oh yeah, Matt Riddle definitely
has a punchable face. He Ihaven't seen him in months and I still
can't fucking stand him. Man,we should do we should do our fancy

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draft and do five on the mostpunchable Okay, yeah, Matt Riddle.
I swear I don't judge at all, but I swear Matt Riddle was so
like pro weed that like learning thatwhile he was you know, smoking and
new and everything, he was alsolike a secret cocaine while getting pushed in

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ww That makes me mad, bro, Yeah, like pro weed. We're
fucking supposed to be like you know, rv D. You're supposed to be
like rv D exactly, RVD,who's so lovable. Yeah, just bathed
in his weed with his girlfriend's girlfriendsand just leave his girlfriend's girlfriend's girlfriend girl
his life. Man, I loverv D. We talked about Stephanie Backer.

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She's going to w w B.Rumors are a tag team known as
the Motor City Machine Guns might beheaded there. Streets are also saying a
e W still expects them to gothere. So the word on the streets
that Motorstitty Machine Guns is signing witha major company soon seems like it'll either
be WWB or a AW. Theycould always go with the TNA and then

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show up an NXT. You neverknow, Do you like? I hear
something really weird about this? Ifeel like the the MotorCity Machine Guns are
too old for this, Like,why are you signing to a new company?
Aren't too old? Like I likethat, I like them, but
I just feel like they're old tobe doing this. I mean, what

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do you what do you mean?Like, I don't know, I think
they're old, like I love themwhen we like fifteen years ago. Like
not, you're not still absolutely right. These are two these are two veterans.
They're both older. However, theyare both either I think the same
age, maybe a year older thanour current world heavyweight champions. Let me

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no, no, I just lookthem up. Chris Saban is forty two
and Alex Shelley is forty one.I didn't mean old in age. I
just met old in the business likeyou're okay, but that's but that's just
it. These guys are bets ofthe business, one of the best tag
teams never to not really be calledthe best tag team. And it's why
because they've never really been on abigger show than t NA. I feel

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like this is just gonna be asituation with the OC where they're just gonna
come in and lose a ship tonof matches to help some of the newer
guys become better tag you know what. And maybe that is why they choose
AW. If they choose AW overW, that would probably be it.

(30:29):
If they're looking at how they're gonnabe used, how they're gonna be portrayed,
because AW will portray in his legendsand put them in positions to have,
like even if they don't just winwin, win, they'll be putting
on banger after banger with the taxingdivision they have over there, Whereas you're
right, they could put them inNXT and next thing you know, they're
they're just kind of making all theother tag teams look better because oh look,

(30:52):
Chase is beating MotorCity machine guns.I wouldn't say bangers. I think
they'll have bangers. Motion machine gunsstill go up. Oh yeah, they
go slow. Bro, you suck? Who you ever beat? Bro?
Who I ever beat? Nobody?I've ever been in a fight ever,

(31:15):
That's not true. That's one hundredpercent true. I've never been in a
fist five day in my life.Really. Nope. Never, I feel
like you, oh it is,yeah, instigate one hundred percent. I
never have yeap never no. Never. Let's get into a pay per view

(31:40):
that is usually like one of myfavorites every year until it actually happens,
and then I remember how much theypissed me off. Money in the Bank
came and went. It was agood money in the bank, good show.
What did you guys think of ofthe way the show came and went

(32:01):
John, I thought, I willsay, and a lot of people are
doing this on on Twitter. They'reshowing how much how much wrestling is actually
happening during these pay per views versushow much other stuff. And considering there
are only five matches and the payper views are still three hours long and

(32:23):
there is not a lot of wrestlinggoing on, it's a little bit annoying
that they only have five matches.I thought overall it was okay. I
think it was very predictable. Ithink we kind of knew what was going
to happen with Drew McIntyre. Weknew that he was not leaving with the
title. I'm kind of okay withthe fact that there's no men's money in

(32:45):
the bank. I think I thinkwhen you've when you've seen Damian Priest have
it for a year, we cango we need a break from it.
We don't need to see somebody elsecarry it for a year. Okay.
I don't mind that as much.I feel like now the women can play
around with it for a while.We don't need another guy to have it
for a year. It would havebeen nice to see La Night with it

(33:07):
or even Jay Husso somebody somebody couldhave used it, somebody who was less
likely to organically win it, eveneven what's his name, Chad Gable?
M Yeah, like somebody who maybecould have used it for a legitimate title

(33:29):
opportunity that maybe they wouldn't have beenable to get otherwise. But other than
that, I'm fine with how thatended. The women's match was way better
than the men's mess. Oh mygod, what a great match. Yeah,
I mean the pay per view waspretty The pay per view was solid.
I liked it. I liked ita lot. I just think for
such few matches, for there toalso be such little wrestling, it's it's

(33:52):
getting annoying. I didn't feel thatway. I do agree, I I
I agree with you and Brady inthe sense that I know Brady hates when
they waste the cash in. Iknow he's a big fan of He's a
big he's very against that. Excuseme, not a big fan. And
I understand what you're saying with Drew. I also agree in the sense that,

(34:13):
like even now that Drew Kashtan,I like that the women's are going
to get time to shine, becausesometimes I think people forget about the women
having a having a briefcase, andit's kind of very foreshadowed by the guys,
and like you said, Damien hadit for such a long time.
Now we don't even have to worryabout that. And now we have a
women's money in the Bank briefcase thatthat Tiffy can walk around with. So
I'm okay with that. The Ithought both Money in the Bank matches were

(34:37):
great. I thought everybody brought it. I thought there were just every everybody
had a moment to shine. Therewere highlights for everybody. I miss my
show and Benjamin and my Money inthe Bank ladder matches because he was my
mister Money in the bank. Everytime there was a ladder Money in the
Bank match, he killed it.He was always that person, kind of
like when you look for KOFE withwith Royal Rumble San Benjamin was my guy

(34:59):
for money in the So I alwayshave a soft spot for that, especially
like there's a lot of him goingon our in our feed lately, and
I was just like, oh,Shelton, I always remember. I think
it was in an ec ww's ec W. I think it was when
Christian was World champion and Christian andShelton Benjamin, they've got a senment,
and Christian says, like, listen, let's face it, and this is

(35:21):
like they've been you know, theywere both kind of in all the money
in the banks at this point.And he's like, when WWB shows highlight
reels clips from their best ladder matches, me and you were fifty percent of
the fucking thing, and like thatthat line always lives rent free in my
head because it's so true. SheltonBen really was is the human highlight reel.

(35:45):
It's ridiculous. That meant nobody everreally like no wrestling company ever really
treated him like the talent he was. I will say, though, like
just as you said, like hewas always in the money back and never
won, but it was always thestand at, always the highlight real.
I think we're seeing a lot ofthat this year. We got Andrada and
Carmelo in particular. Really both ofthem showed up, showed out, proved

(36:08):
why they deserve to be in thesespots. Why if they did get the
briefcase, it wouldn't have been abad decision. I do hate I do
hate a briefcase being wasted, especiallysince I just I don't I didn't think
they needed to burn it the waythey did. I don't Drew and cmpung

(36:29):
didn't need that. Uh And ifanything, Sampunk could have just cost Drew
from winning the briefcase as opposed tois opposed to traveling to the show to
fucking Canada, watching Drew win andthen waiting for Drew to cash in so
he could screw him over. Iwould have liked it would have been the
same. I feel like waiting forDrew to get that close to the title

(36:53):
is what CM punk wanted, LikeI guess to the point of like see
him Punk stopping him seem Punk's pointis as long as he's there, Drew
will never get a title then,so see him Punk was there to make
sure Drew doesn't win the title.See him Punk doesn't care. Dampunk let

(37:14):
him win the title WrestleMania, andthen he beat him up and set him
up for dam Yeah no, andthat and that's that's that's kind of it.
And after that, it's like,as he made the statement, as
long as he's there, he's notgonna let him win the title again,
that's it. And like he lethim win money in the bank, and
that's as he got closer to thetitle, he interfered. I think it

(37:37):
would have been difficult to have himinterfere in the money in the bank match.
The reason I think that that didn'thappen is because I'm not completely sure
that c M Punk is clear towrestle, which is why I think Drew
McIntyre, I think this injury isstill going on longer than Yeah. Seth

(37:57):
even said in their segment Roy,He's like, I know you're not clear,
but when you are, I'm gonnacome knocking. Because because Seth's obviously
pissed about how everything ended up,right, I will say this with the
whole Sampunk and the set segment andalso just the way Steampunk and Drew is
kind of going. I don't seeit happening, you know, tomorrow or

(38:17):
anything, but I hope that throughoutthis fue we get a double turn because
for me, CM punk is verymuch the healing this like, and I
also just really want to he'll seethem punk and like, especially with like
that segment we got a few weeksback with Drew and Shamus, like other
than Drew like you know, notgetting a shit and being ready to take

(38:39):
Adam Pierce's face off, Like Ireally Drew stopped being the heel a while
ago. To me, now,seem punk is just fucking won't leave this
poor guy alone, Like he hasyour friendship bracelet, bro, it's not
that serious, Like come on now, and then Sempunks saying that the set
like like, yeah, I knowI screwed you out of the championship,
but he had he has had mywife's name and my dog's name on his

(39:02):
wrist. Man, I gotta dowhat I gotta do. Yeah, he
stole his friendship bracelet them nerve.What did you have to think of that
segment with Sampunk and set, becauseI I was like kind of scratching my
head. I didn't really know ifSampunk was riffing. I didn't know if
Sampunk was trying to sell certain emotions, and it was just annoying me.

(39:24):
Cmpunk would be worst apology in thehistory of the world. I'm trying to
apologize, would you pay attention andthen saying like, I'm sorry if anything
I did affected your title, Butyou know what, because it's you,
I can't really be sorry. Ken. I like, this is again what
I say. What I mean,this is he was gaslighting him. Yeah,

(39:45):
Like, this is what I meanwhen I say, like, cmpunk
is the healing all this like hasbeen since he walked in, and somebody's
gotta gotta make this right. UhSo, I don't know if if Seth
steps in and that's where we getto turn. I don't know if once
a and maybe there's a double turn, Drew turns face and Seampunk go's real
full heel. But I'm ready forit. Yeah, I want. I

(40:07):
want Sampunk to go heel. Heshould be healed, but he's a heel
in He's just not a baby faxlike. Even if the fans like him,
that's fine, But nothing he didon Monday night was baby face like,
Like Seth had a legit gripe andgranted before Damien Freight Priest just you
know, took away their stipulation andsaid, listen, by the way,

(40:27):
when I'm done with Gunther, youyou can have a shot again. Like,
no problem, I don't until butuntil then, Seth thought Sampunk screwed
him out of that. Literally,he can't fight for the title anymore.
Seampunk, you can't say you're sorrylike I made it. I also,
I also just don't like this wholeSampunk and Drew Drew thing at the expense

(40:50):
of Damian Priest because I feel like, like I said, I was like,
oh, I'm hoping this match withhim and Seth will like showcase that
he is good at being a champand he doesn't need help and he doesn't
need this even though you know andall this stuff, and then we're just
focusing on CM Punk and Drew Macand Tire instead of Damian Priest. Yeah,
I'm worried about Damian Priest especially,and it's not even as much about

(41:15):
that, and the fact that theyhave made a point to have interference kind
of caused his title defenses. Andof course the cracks are starting to form
at least a little bit in JudgmentDay and his relationship with Ben. But
also I'm paying attention to the waythey're utilizing or not really utilizing Gunther.

(41:35):
Like Gunther is as reached Roman brainstatus. He doesn't hack the wrestle on
Mondays anymore. He walks around,he doesn't have to put his crown on.
He walks around. They will putthey'll give him vignettes and packages when
they want, or he'll come andjust and speak about how he is doing
at all, and that's all hehas to do. It's not as much

(41:57):
he's talking about what it's like tobecome the champion. No, this whole
thing is about that Damian Priest canget past gun There. Gunter's already been
elevated to this point with his IcyChampionship reign, with his King of the
Ring win, and once again,this the way that he's like, he's
got this aura about him where hedoes. He's not like everyone else.
He's already been put on a pedestal, you know what I mean, he

(42:19):
doesn't have to show up. IsGunther undefeated? Like? Is he like
Undertaker? Like? Is he completelyHe's never lost in w W Sammy obviously,
well Sammy beat him and Chad Gabletechnically beat him during that build.
It wasn't a pinfall off, buthe got the count out win. Remember
that, Okay, yay, Icouldn't. I couldn't remember. I couldn't
remember. It wasn't even the kindof win he had a last three minutes

(42:44):
and he lasted three minutes and thatwas what they counted. Because in my
in my brain, I'm like,oh man, Gunther should just come out
and be like I challenge Cody Rhodesand Damian Priest for titles and whoever I
pin that I become the champ ofwhoever I get. I would love to
see Gunther do that because he woulddestroy right and I know, okay with

(43:06):
it. You know what's really interestinggoing into Summer Slam, as you do
mention that, Danielle, the factthat Sammy Zain is the only person to
pen Gunther. Uh. And godknows how long it does appear after the
events of Brad bron Breaker is stillon a collision course with Sammy Zan.
Looks like he's still come up forthe title, so maybe we get,

(43:29):
if not a straight on rematch,bron Breaker probably involved in a match four
the Intertal Championship at SummerSlam. Sayingpaper view, Gunther can potentially become world
champion if Gunther wins the title,Sammy z Ain, even though he could
lose the title Lebron at SummerSlam,could still stroll on over to number one

(43:50):
contender status for the World Championship becauseas you pointed out, he's the only
person to have beaten the potential worldchampions So like that. I don't know
if they did that on purpose,but those recipes combining together for SummerSlam does
make both matches very interesting. Iwas a little surprised that Sammy won and
bron Breaker didn't. I will saythat I wasn't. I know, you

(44:14):
had him, I know, butalso just in Canada, I really didn't
think, like, like, goinginto Summer Slam, I'm a lot more
worried about Sammy's taddle ran. Andat SummerSlam, let's say bron Breaker and
Sammy's a have a rematch, Iwill be surprised at least now, I'll
be surprised if Sammy retains. Butgoing into this one, I thought it
was a little too soon. Andhonestly, I thought it was too soon

(44:36):
for this match because I do thinkit's questionable to have bron Breaker lose clean.
Yeah, I thought was like that, You're right. That's why I
was like, Broun has to bewinning, because why would you have Broun
lose so quickly? Yeah, Andthey still are able to the events of
Monday with Iliot. They're still ableto portray him as this unstoppable freak that
Adam Pearce can barely control. Butlike we just saw Sammy beat him,

(44:58):
and I get it, They're kindof make it Sammy. The fucking Giants
player, But I don't know.It's I don't you know, I just
I don't know if I would haveappreciated a little. At the very least,
Sammy should have hit like maybe threefinishers or something like. There should
have been an effort to tell astory that bron Breaker will will not stay

(45:19):
down or take from Sammy to doit. It kind of just seemed like
another title defense for Sammy. Youknow, bron Breaker didn't come across that
special until the next day when hespeared him again. Well, this is
what this is what I think Iwas talking about, like probably five six
episodes ago, where Sammy's been stuckin that middle there as things shift,

(45:43):
as people are starting their stories wherethey're not there are may be no titles
involved like Seth Rollins and c M. Punk might not be for a title.
McIntyre and Punk aren't for a title. If Gunter gets the title.
Even if he does get a titleand and Damien keeps the title, they
need new challengers and they need believablechallengers for both of them. That's where

(46:07):
you move sammy' z ain up andhe needs to be believable. So I
feel like they're prepping Sammy Zain,while also they need to make it believable
that that what's his name can bebeat Otherwise you're just gonna have him run
through that card. Why Breaker,Yeah, bron Breaker. It's just gonna

(46:27):
be ridiculous to have him running throughthat mid card and become Intercontinental champion in
three minutes and be undefeatable. Solike, it's you don't want to do
the Goldberg thing. So I thinkit's good that you got a loss out
of the way. Great, hethere's no undefeated street you have to worry
about, and now you're just kindof in the world of like, what
are you gonna do? Let's boostup Sammy. I think we got an

(46:51):
idea of what Sammy's new character is, which is, like, what do
I got to do for people tostart thinking I'm a threat? He just
beat bron Breaker. Let's see whomaybe he goes against bron Stroman next,
Like, let's see what they doto try and build up Sammy. Then
make him a competitor for the worldheavyweight title, Like let's move him up
the scale and put him in headlinerposition. Do I see him like that?

(47:13):
No? But I think that's whythat's what they're trying to do they
may do that. Yeah, alsomakes sense that I'm sorry, no,
I just I think that's that's kindof what they as they move people from
NXT up, they have to movethose mid carters or else there's nothing for

(47:34):
them. Like that's the problem.I love what they're doing with NXT,
but how many people are leaving,Like John Cena is first retiring Raymond Sterio,
the Hall of Fame, the guysstill fucking wrestling, So people bring
being brought up, then let goand leaving. I think Ray said he's

(47:55):
only got like like one or twomore years, but I think he said,
like I forget how many years aroundhis contract. But I think Ray's
kind of winding down. Also,So if Ray, if Ray came on
TV tomorrow and said I'm leaving,nobody would care like he's it's it's it's
okay. Like he he could haveleft after the Hall of Fame and we
would have been okay. He's notJohn Cena. He's not going to get

(48:16):
the same thing as Randy Orton.He's had a great career, but I
think the Hall of Fame should havebeen the end for him. But my
point is there are a lot morepeople coming up from NXT than there are
leaving Ron SmackDown, So they haveto figure out what they're doing or else
you're just gonna have one hundred peoplein the mid card and one hundred people

(48:37):
on them headlining main You're absolutely right, and that's how people like a baron
Forbin who put in all this effortand he to revitalize himself finally get themselves
over as a baby face, getthemselves called up to a point where they
can get pushed and utilized. Andguy doesn't. They're not doing anything with

(48:58):
him because, as you said,because they're not mid hard is getting moved
up too, made event status toleave a mid card spot available for returning
Corby. Let's let's move on tothe Bloodline and that tag team match.
As I did predict Solo, soCod gets the pinfall over Cody Rhodes,
and I do believe that's going totake us to SummerSlam where Solo will challenge

(49:20):
for the w W Championship. Veryinteresting. That theme is fire. His
entrance, the song is fire.I got pumped when Solo came out.
I was like this song. Iwas like, this song is fire.
Yeah, no, it it's beenfire I love that song was great,
But yeah, these guys, theseguys getting the big win as they needed

(49:45):
as you continue to establish this newbloodline. I was a bit surprised about
the video package that aired. Ithink it was on SmackDown before this show,
but then they also aired again inpreparation for this match where Solo is.
It was it was kind of alwaysactions, you know, and the
way he would talk, and theway he would say acknowledge me, the

(50:05):
way he would call himself the headof the table, the way he told
Paul Roman's not coming back. Butthis is the first time after this is
the follow up to him attacking Pauland taking out the Wise Man. He
then flat out SAIDs he's calling Romanout. Basically, he's saying Roman wasn't
mad enough to hold on to thesespeeds. We wasn't mad enough to hold
out to the championship. He wasn'tmad enough to hold out to the bloodline.

(50:27):
Roman wasn't strong enough. And ifRoman wants this back, he can
come take it. So this isthe first time, like all his actions
have kind of been speaking louder thanwords, but his words were pretty fucking
loud. Yeah. Uh, hispromos are still amazed. To be honest,
I don't find him very believable ifI'm really pinpointing stuff about Solo.

(50:49):
But it's fine. I like theprogression of the Bloodline story. Uh yeah,
so I'm assuming Yeah, like yousaid, like Solo's events, I
think Solos eventually it's going to beRoman Rains versus Solo at some point in
time. The thing to me isbefore Roman lost to Cody, Solo was
losing every fucking match. So,like that's why this isn't believable. It's

(51:13):
not believable because Solo was the punchingbag. Wait when was So losing I
don't remember so losing too many.Solo was losing everything to Kevin Owens.
He was losing every house show tol A. Knight show don't count,
no, but he was losing Televisshows to l A. Knight. Also,
he was losing Televis shows to CodyRhodes. He was losing all every
every time there was an opportunity forthe blood Light and to lose, it

(51:36):
was Solo taking the pins. Itwas either Solo or Jimmy. So like
for him to come out and bethe guy that is talking about losing,
I mean, it's ridiculous. Holdon ww main roster, Soles has lost
eighty I'm sorry, sixty one ofhis matches. A lot to say,

(52:00):
it's actually it's eighty three losses comparedto his fifty wins and he's had three
draws. Wow, that's on themain roster, not even not including NXT.
I forgot he was on n XC. Yeah, I know, for
him to sit there and be talkingabout all that shit, I'm like,
this is not believable. You puton a suit and you run in your

(52:22):
mouth. But I remember every singletime he was he was just he lost.
But I think I kind of thinkthat's supposed to be the point.
It's kind of like when the weakestHeather from Heathers became the new Heather and
you were like, wait, whyis this one? Because she's the one
that stepped up and is running hermouth. So I know it's not believable

(52:44):
for him to be the head ofthe bloodline, but he's the one that
is trying like is like, no, I'm just gonna do it and pretend
like he's not. I get whatyou're saying. But the problem is when
Roman comes back, he's gonna unlessthe plan is to make Jacob the guy
who has to go against Roman,because if if Solo is the one going
against Roman, that's not believable.Roman's gonna rip him to shreds, right,

(53:06):
That's that's issue. My issue isif they if they're planning for Solo
versus Roman, that's just not believable. Hold on, I have a question,
Roy, because, like, whyis Roman versus Solo not believable?
Because the fact of the matter isthe only Like, if you look back
on Roman's reign, ah, yes, thank you. He wasn't portrayed as

(53:29):
the unbeatable champion because he was Romanor because he was the best. It
was always because of the bloodline.He had Jay, he had Jimmy,
and he had Solo. Solo isthe reason he didn't lose it WrestleMania last
year. So the fact is thatif Roman comes back and he's without Jay,
because why would Jay join Roman yet, there's been nothing to happen.

(53:49):
He's without Jimmy. Jimmy is stillout, Paul Amon is getting or retiring
home somewhere. He's just trying toget some R and R. He's relaxing,
he's recovering. So Roman's going tobe by himself, and Solo's not
Solo as what Roman used to have, Solo as what Roman doesn't have anymore,
which is the bloodline. So Ithink Solo can beat Roman because he's

(54:10):
got back up, which is theonly reason Roman had the rainy, you
know what I mean. So Ithink that's the main story they're going to
try and tell, and that's whythey're making this this foursome so threatening and
so violent and not necessarily the biggestthreats to get every win though, as

(54:30):
we said, they did get thisbig win that they needed at SummerSlam.
But I think they're more threats oflike they might put someone in the fucking
hospital, because who knows what theSamo and werewolf is really capable of,
right, So I think it's becausehe has he has bodyguards, like he
doesn't have to do anything exactly,And so that's why I think Solo a

(54:50):
versus Roman will will will be fine, and eventually it will lead to the
reunion of the bloodline and the reunionof Roman and the Anus sam Sammy Usso
so that's gonna be a fun one. They're gonna pop huge for that when
it does happen. Man l AKnights pop at the ladder match. When
he came out, I was like, holy crap. I was like,
if this man won the money inthe bank, I was like, this

(55:13):
whole place would have uproared. Hispop was so loud, Holy would have
been great. Holy crap. Hopefullythe pop is just as big as Summer
Slam when he finally wins some goldand becomes United States. I hope so.
I also, I also, thisis Chad Gable. I didn't know
this is his first ladder match inWWE. That was his first ever?

(55:37):
Is that insane? I didn't knowthat. I was like, holy crap.
I mean, they don't do tagteam ladder matches as often as they
used to, and even when theydid, Chad Gable and Otis for a
while weren't really utilized like that.Chad Gable's gone through a lot of rough
times where if they were having abig ladder match, he was lucky that

(55:59):
he was on the radar. Soyeah, thankfully, you know, and
back to that a lot of likechagging was another one, that big leap.
He took the briefcase and then ohmy god, like those those hanging
spots get me so nervous because I'mlike, what happens if the briefcase falls?

(56:20):
I'm like, then what do youdo? You got me? Very
That's always what I'm for. Likethat entire time watching I was like,
because then you have to give ita chad. Yeah, they would.
They would fucking make him lose itto the mis again and third time money
in the back. That Sunset Flippower Bomb with Andrade and Carmelo, Holy

(56:44):
crapl dude. The ladder matches wereso good. I can't get over how
good they were. Sky with Zoestarts my no, oh that one,
Yeah, I thought I thought shedied. Wait, it wasn't Zoe,
was it? Yes? You knowthat's in fact, that's a big part

(57:05):
of why Zoe Stark Sonya took outdamage control because Zoe's literally grabbing you and
saying you took everything from me.So yeah, Zoe Stark right on that
ladder like that when it was Ohthat I thought you were talking about when
Lyra did the German souples to Yo, that was off the ladder, Holy

(57:27):
crap. No, they all killedit. And of course Chelsea agreed with
definitely afraid of heights. Apparently sheis. Yeah, she was saying,
yeah, she said she's definitely afraidof heights. This isn't even the first
time she's done this. I know, I know. Toy agreed. It's
such an all star. Yeah,she was just like, I'm gonna do

(57:50):
this. She was like, you'llremember. Whatever they have her do,
she does better than He's so good. I also love I Love Love's commentary
on Money in the Bank. Hegoes, oh, so I'm technically the
Money in the Bank winner through marriage. I thought that was really funny that
you blamed that out. He's stillin the mat Cordona play book. Yeah

(58:14):
exactly. I was like, oh, you sund like mac cordonah, except
he was one half of the womanthe longest running Women's Money in the Bank
yep. And and and in facthe won it twice because they made her.
They made her win that briefcase becauseof what's his face right else,

(58:36):
I couldn't think of the last name. Yeah. Yeah, but Women's Money
in the Bank was just really onfire, Naomi with with the bit of
an omash RBD doing the splits onthe ladders. Yeah, it was.
It was really fantastic. No,the women really showed up and showed out
and and it's because of that,in particular that I'm even more happy that

(58:59):
we do have a true miss moneyin the bank. They're not burning it.
Tiffany didn't cash in that night,we get some time of Tiffy in
the bag. I'm sure she's goingto give it a Barbie style makeover.
So that briefcase is going to geta makeover very quickly. Maybe some be
dazzled. I love Tiffy. It'sTiffy time, and I think she's going
to be great with a briefcase.I think having it coming out taunting whoever,

(59:23):
you know, whatever champ she's goingfor, I think that's gonna be
who's the Who's sorry, who's thewho's the wrestler who just lost her title
to Monet? Oh? Stephanie Vacker, Stephanie Becker. Oh so, Sean
Michael just said, welcome to thew w E family. Steph Vacker.
Yeah, I know I missed that. No, you're here, Yeah said

(59:50):
that. I didn't realize that becausewhen you asked me if I knew who
she was, I was like no, And then I just I just got
a notification. I'm like, ohwait, did I miss that? Yeah?
The entire angle was how I thoughta W was stupid for putting on
on his platform and then losing themto w W. Yeah, I just
got the notification. I don't knowwhat's going on. I hope my listeners

(01:00:12):
are paying attention to me more thanyou are. Josh Ship John was just
excited that we were talking about lA. Knight. He got distracted.
He was like, when are youtalking about Ella Knight? That's all I
care about. But I mean,he he was a wasted spot in the
ladder match. If he was,I thought he did great. You know,
people love him. He was.He was there to do exactly what

(01:00:36):
he did, which is get thecrowd really excited at certain points, Oh
my god, is he really goingto do it like they needed in l
A. Knight that match? ButI just feel like if he wasn't going
to win, he he he wasteda spot that could have gone to somebody
else. Everybody, I don't know. Everybody knows he's gonna but like getting

(01:00:57):
the US titles better, Like he'sgetting the US tilt SummerSlam. So he
wasn't getting the briefcase. If bysome miracle they were giving him the briefcase,
that would have made Sense'll say this, I will say this to your
credit, Logan Paul getting involved probablywould have helped a little bit extra out

(01:01:20):
and add a little bit more fuelto that fired of l A. Knight.
Now to kind of go back tothat feud has to go back in
time to like, Hey, rememberI pind you to get into money in
the bank. So yeah, right, it would it would have been better
to see a jealous and bitter andenraged Logan Paul just just completely interject himself

(01:01:42):
into that match. That would havebeen That would have been heat magnet type
of ship. But yeah, backto back to TI time, just real
quick. And I said last week, I do think they like as much
as I wanted Chelsea to win theBriefcase because they hadn't really spent any time
building her up as a true threat, and even in her qualifying match,

(01:02:05):
they kind of had her win likea fluke, like she she got knocked
out on to or no, sheshe took advantage. So with Tiffy more
consistently, she's been billed as likethe next big thing, as you know,
a future champion. So I dothink she's a real threat with the
Briefcase and that Bailey's gotta gotta sleepwith one eye open. Now, yeah,

(01:02:30):
I love this. I yeah,she's gonna be so good. Like
I said, the taunting her comingout like teasing the briefcase of but I
think she's gonna do phenomenal with this. Yeah, I just want her to
do. It's gonna be interesting tosee how her new friendship with Naya Jacks,
the Queen of the Ring and numberone contender Naya Jackson. As a

(01:02:55):
Summer Slam match, could Tiffy possiblyinterject herself and walk out champion instead of
night Jacks and then tell Nya toodles, Toodles, toodles, Naya toodles.
She'd be a good cosplay. Ifeel like if I if I go to
WrestleMania next year, I have tocosplay as Tiffy, right, Yeah,

(01:03:17):
she doesn't wear a rub though,would you as Ticky cosplaying as share Harwiz
a thousand? I don't know ifI could wear that though, I'd probably
have to wear stick tights underneath.I wouldn't feel comfortable one. But yeah,
because she doesn't have like a robelike you know, like Charlotte Flair
has a role that I got likecover myself and is there a Tiffy time

(01:03:42):
shirt. I'm sure there is,but that doesn't. Yeah, I feel
like I never see her wearing itthough, Yeah, because why would you
with a body like that. Iwant to wear it either. He looks
like that. We're gonna see howa lot of people wearing the new rear
Ripley shirt, letting everybody know Mommy'sback because she is made her return on
raw. Yeah, kind of telegraphedit from the beginning by by answering a

(01:04:08):
phone and saying, hey, whereyou act with a big smile on his
face. That was the first breadcrumb. Then, even later, as
he sees Dom continuing to do dumbshit and get himself in trouble, biggest
hole even deeper, he even goeson to say, you know what,
Finn, I was gonna tell you, I'm actually gonna keep it to myself
because Dom's gonna find out on hisown. Uh. And rear Ripley does,

(01:04:30):
in fact interrupt the celebration of DirtyDom and Live Morgan, the women's
champion. Rea Ripley chases off Liveand then like skull Dom, like he
caught her son trying to sneak inpast curfew, Dom is in trouble.

(01:04:51):
Ooh, he's in trouble. Honestly, this whole thing was great. It
was beautifully done. It was itwas executed perfectly. I will say Carlito
has been the highlight for me watchingthese. His reactions and things are so
comical and so funny, Like Ican't He's been really funny with this.
But I think it was the perfectway to bring Ria back. I loved

(01:05:14):
it, except I will say theLive and Domb stuff does get a little
uncomfortable. I don't know if that'sintentional, but it does get a little
uncomfortable for me. See one thingI really liked though, and I'm sure
it'll play, they'll play more onthis on television. But it was a
clip that I think Live posted andWW posted. It was basically of them
and Live is watching. You know, she already got backstage. She's watching

(01:05:39):
behind the curtain to see Ria andDom, and Rie is mad at Dom
and all that, and then shekind of turns to the camera and gives
a very sly smile. Live doesn'twant Dom. Liv never wanted Dom.
She just wanted to take him fromRihea. If Ria leaves Dom because of
this, then mission accomplished, right, And I don't think Live's done because
Live wants everything we ever had,so not me? Is that dirty dum?

(01:06:00):
It might be the Judgment Day too. Live wants to take everything from
Ria, not necessarily for herself,she just doesn't want Ria to have it
anymore. So I do like alittle bit of this as long as they
continue to kind of let us seethat as well, because I don't believe
for one second that Live actually wantsTom. It's all mind games with Rhea,

(01:06:21):
And as long as that continues tocome across, I think everyone's okay,
right, except for Dom. They'rejust making him out to be dumb
dumb right, But yes, sohappy that Rihea is back. I'm just
a little worried about what's gonna Ifeel like so much has changed. I'm

(01:06:42):
like, you'll want her back sothat she can be with Judgment Day again,
right, and we can go backto the way things work because her
and Damien we're about to run thefucking show. But it's like Damien's hasn't
turned face yet, but he's reallydoing everything in his power to not be
healing. He's showing respect to everybaby face challenger, telling even though I
beat you, I once I beatGunther, you can still have a shot,

(01:07:05):
bro. I don't care. Idon't run from anyone telling everyone not
to interfere in his matches because Ican handle my business. Rie is a
baby face now to your to whatyou said, Danielle, Carlito, Finn
Daaler and jd McDonough are kind ofnow like they wore this whole dirty dom
saga. They've kind of been thefriends reacting to everything and doing it very

(01:07:26):
funny with Jade McDonough with his littlefinger wag like no, no you in
trouble. Finn Daler is always blowingme away with his facial expressions and it's
overreacting with his eyes. Carlito withhis one liners is just never ending entertainment.
So if they wanted to, theycould make all of Judgment Day except
for don of course, actual babyfacesfor maybe like a month or two before

(01:07:48):
the other side the coin flips andDamien and Riha get blind set. That's
like, that's probably what's happening,and that's where it's like sad because Rhea
is here now, which means they'rejust going to escalate the end of the
Judgment Day or at the very leastthe next incarnation right at least that's what
it seems like for me. Whoknows, right, I don't want the

(01:08:10):
Judgment Day to break up, butit's okay, Like I don't know if
they'll break up breakup. I justthink Damian Priest's time with the Judgment Days
coming to a close. And RiaRipley and Damien Priest have always been the
two of everyone that are most closelylinked that you know, their friendship goes
beyond the show, beyond Judgment Dayr so, and even even now,

(01:08:31):
Damian Priest is the one that knewRio was coming right. Nobody else did
not even Dom don and Damien Priestdidn't didn't tell anyone, not even Dom
Dom. So there it is.That's the loyalty. So I think Riha
and Damien's time with the Judgment Dayscoming to a close. Yeah, Damien,
go ahead. Sorry, not justwhat that means for Dom, Carlito,

(01:08:53):
Finn Balor and Jady McDonough. We'llhave to wait to see. Yeah,
Dom has such loyalty, turning onhis dad from Mommy and then almost
falling with it would live. Yes, Dom has excellent loyity. I mean,
what do we see happening with this, Like, do you think next
week dirty Dom will pay an homageto possibly his father Eddie h and bringing

(01:09:19):
the apology Rose Like, Yeah,how funny would it be if he's like,
I'm not dealing with either of youand he goes back to his dad.
That would be so funny. He'djust be like no, he'd be
like Dad, he just says,I'm done with this guy. For the
record, I'm actually married, andshe's to do with this poor woman has

(01:09:41):
to watch these women drool over himevery week over like someone who's not a
Randy Orton or Seth Roland or aRoman Rence. I would think of Pat
McAfee. She puts her hand inthat. I love that. Yeah,
I will say I'm not ready forRia and Dom to be over just yet.

(01:10:02):
Yeah, they find a way tokind of because here's the thing.
Ria came out, you know,like chased Leah live Away. But then
like the way she acted towards Dom, Yes she's mad at him, but
it didn't look like she was doneright. She was kind of like,
you're an idiot, like what areyou like, Like, what are you

(01:10:25):
thinking about? You know what,You're in the doghouse, dog being don
be in the doghouse with Ria couldbe very entertaining, right, what do
you think of Mommy coming back?I think it's gonna be good. It's
it's it's obviously. I think we'regonna see I think we're gonna see Dom

(01:10:49):
turn on Ria and end up allowingLive to keep the title for a little
longer. So Ria's chasing it.I think, uh in realc that I
think Live turns on Dom immediately.Yeah, I don't think. I don't
think so. I think Live takesover the Judgment Day and they all turn
on on Rhea. I do seethem all turning on Ria, but I

(01:11:13):
don't necessarily know if I see Liveactually taking over the Judgment Day. I
was toying with that idea, butI don't think they actually go through with
it. They have to. She'sshe's been helping them, she's been helping
them get their titles. She didhelp Finn and j D mcdonne, and
there were other things other than likethe Live down thing, like there was

(01:11:34):
Live in Sin apparently coming out ofthat car at one time, so that
there's definitely like they've definitely put themselvesin a position to do that. If
they go with it, well,I thought, I thought when when Damian
Priest didn't kick out of that pin, I thought the way they were going
to fix it was to say thatLive paid off the ref because stopped stopped

(01:11:58):
counting. So I thought they weregonna make it's they were going to try
and play it off like Live paidoff the ref just to cover it up,
which would have made that was thatwas a big production fuck up.
They were a little late with themusic for Drew. No, I think
I think that was a that wasa that was a Damian Priest or ref
fuck up production. Even if productionplayed the music, that shouldn't have stopped

(01:12:20):
the pin count. The ref wasthe ref should have gone through with the
pin like under but the ref butthe ref would stop counting if the music
hit like that, like they've donestuff like that in the past. I
agree, you're right, the logic'snot there, but they would have the
referee. The referee, I don'tknow if he could have done anything different

(01:12:42):
because like the last he just likethe only thing he could have done differently
was actually count the fucking three becauseDamien Priest didn't kick out. Damian Priest
really should have kicked out. Yeah, the rule was if they don't kick
out, you finished the three count. Yeah, so then we would have
gotten set this champion, and thenhow they would have gotten then had Drew
cash it on Seth and somehow endthat with Damien. Imagine they just said

(01:13:05):
that Damien's in it anyway because he'sin the rick. I mean, Damien
probably would have won it back onMonday. Yeah, maybe they would have
done that, win it back toget a short month rain so he face
Gunther for the titles. That'd becrazy. I wouldn't mind if they gave
us some Damien freestyle defenses on raw. I feel like, especially if his

(01:13:28):
title defense sorry rain does end atSummerSlam, he could benefit from getting the
you know, two or three moretitle defenses against some incredible challenges. And
he they're they're portraying him as thewhole I back down and no one on
the champ. I'll take on anyone, So you know, give it,
give him a few, give hima few. Let let Eliot Dragonov take
him to the limit. Why not? Man? I love Eliot Dragonov.

(01:13:51):
He's so good. It is whatit is. When you think about our
new tag team champions, John dI why just like it always is Johnny
Wins. Johnny and Tomaso Champion arenew tag champs. Austin Theory and Grayson
Waller no longer tag champs, andI don't know how much longer they will

(01:14:13):
be a tag team. Austin Theorymight be coming over to face Nation Face
Nation. What's that He's gonna bea baby face? Oh? Oh wait
a minute, So d I yare champion? So that means he's Tomaso
Champa again again. If the NXTChampionship is Goldie, I wonder what his

(01:14:38):
tag team championship name is. Whatcolor are they like? Oh, obviously
it will be Kirk. Wait arethey blue? No they're not blue?
No, they're black and gold.Oh so they're like Kurt Russell. Oh,

(01:14:58):
Kurt, I'm his tag title Kirk? Okay, fair enough? I
hope he. I hope he's okaywith that. We'll have to We'll have
to tweet him and let him know. Yeah, I'm gonna be like,
so if this one's Goldie, isthis one Kurt? That's all? I'm
happy to see g I finally getsthe main roster gold It did feel like
it wasn't gonna happen. I kindof started feeling like Tomasso Champion was getting

(01:15:23):
geared up for a heel turned andthey were just gonna go their separate ways
and go singles. So glad they'regetting a tag rain before that. I
do still have that fear that,like when they get ready to drop the
titles, we'll get Tomaso Champa turningon Johnny or maybe thought Johnny turn this
time. But I do fear thatD I Y are destined to be rivals

(01:15:45):
just as much as they has destinedto be partners. Oh it's They're they're
basically the modern day Kevin Owens andSammy's day. Yeah, well, I
think that's that's what they're setting upwith Austin theory because Austin Theory and and
Johnny Gargano have that history in nXT, so I think, yeah,
I think Champ is gonna eventually juststart getting bitter about that and it's gonna

(01:16:10):
end up with, yeah, agreat feud on the main roster. But
they they haven't had a title yet, they've been there forever. Let them
enjoy this for a little bit,let them get through through the summary of
the fall, like, let themhave it for a little bit. Let
that be amazing. That's I willsay this match. I will say this,
If MotorCity machine Guns do sign,I can see them coming to smack

(01:16:33):
down and Choute, Yeah, why, I can see them wanting to go
to that Wells and their walkers.I mean that's that. Champa and Gargano
is a Mania match. Let themlet them get that, let them play
through Mania. I'm with that.I'm with that. With that, also,
with everything that we've been seeing fromthe Wyatt six, these video packages

(01:16:58):
have just been so good. BoDallas crazy to think that it's really just
him in these segments like we have. It's like, you know, he's
obviously talking with Uncle Howdie, butit's just it's it. We're just watching
one man guild, these range ofemotions and answers and just oh man.
And then my reaction, my jawliterally dropped when Adam Pierce opens his office

(01:17:23):
and there's Bo Dallas just sitting inthere, ready for a normal meeting.
I don't know where we're going withthis. He did seem to finally,
at the very least verbalize the nameof the stable where he said, do
you think we're sick? Yes?Yes, I do. Okay, well,

(01:17:43):
then sick is what we will be. And once again we've been calling
the yat six, so I thinkwe'll see that to continue. We got
for the first time a little bitmore glimmers of I think this was the
first time we actually saw the faceof Joe Gasey under the mask, the
face of Dexter Loomis under the buzzer, the face of everybody. So once
again, it's just it gets moreand more fun. I wonder, since

(01:18:05):
Bo Dallas and Adam Pearce have nowhad an official discussion, if this means
the VH steps or the VHS tapesare over and maybe we'll finally get these
guys, you know, appearing.Yeah, I hope. So, I
mean it took them out long tofind a VHS player, I bet,

(01:18:26):
because that's intense. Well, kindI'm kind of hoping that I'm kind of
hoping that we find out Monday thatAdam Pearce is missing. Oh and he's
in the VHS. That's possible,but I just I want to all go
to chaos a little bit. Uh. Yeah, I feel like that's what

(01:18:48):
he's been saying, that he's whathe's say that he's the reckoning or something
like, let Adam Pierce go missing. Drew McIntyre is supposed to be there
to talk with him next week.If Adam Pearce isn't there, then Drew
McIntyre's free to go wild, like, let let some chaos break out and
further feed whatever's going on with theWyat six. Again, this is a

(01:19:11):
it's a wrestling company. I knowwhat Triple H said, It's a TV
show about a wrestling company. ATV show about a wrestling show. These
guys got to wrestle, So Ilike, what's going on. The Bodallas
thing is great. These guys gottawrestle. We know they can wrestle.
We've seen them wrestle. Eventually,they have to take the masks off and

(01:19:32):
get in the ring, and weknow them as the people they were before.
So if it's either gonna translate orit won't, we're gonna see I
mean, Dexter Loomis, we knowhim for the mustache and the slick hair.
We're gonna say that where that's wherethese videotapes, the stories he's been
telling I think coming to play wherehe's like, I unlocked the characters.

(01:19:56):
Uh, you know that his brothercreated. I found these people that you
guys didn't want that were discarded,that were fired, that we're forgotten,
that we're put on the bench,YadA, YadA, YadA, And I
awoke in these characters in them.So I don't think it'll be as simple
as just Dexter takes off the buzzardmasks and there he is with Dexter Loomis.

(01:20:16):
A I do think that we'll kindof get a little bit of Cain
action happening where they just give hima fucking wig for no goddamn reason.
Like, I don't think Dexter's gonnatake off those dreads so unfortunately, I
do think he's gonna be wearing likea fucking dreadlock. Oh no way,
there's no chance he's gonna be DexterLoomis with the beard. I just want

(01:20:38):
to know if he's gonna keep thename Dexter Loomis or they're gonna give him
a completely new name. They mightjust call him Mercy or see the buzzard
that would be retarded, and andlike we know what's his name at uh
Rowan, we know is Rowan.He's not gonna look any more different.

(01:20:58):
So he's gonna take off that mask. But that's her Tartan. Yeah,
I mean it what we're gonna callthat's the dumbest thing ever. Like me,
I mean, listen, I'm allsaying is and I've been saying it
every week, and I love it. Most of these clips give us more
questions than answers, and I lovehaving more questions about this, Like I

(01:21:21):
love not knowing where it's going.I love waiting and seeing. But everything
that we've gotten so far does makeme think that they're gonna try to go
the extra mile to let us knowwhat has happened to Nicky Cross, what
has happened to Dexter Loomis, whathas happened to Joe Jacy and Eric Browan

(01:21:42):
and what has changed in them.I mean, if you're telling me that
the Nicky Cross that has been comingout and giving them videotapes, this creepy
woman, if you're telling me thatshe's the same Nikki Cross we've seen,
like, I'm not buying it,man, she everything You're right about that.
I just don't want them to tryand feed us a new character.

(01:22:06):
Like I'm fine with what you're saying, he unlocked these new people, but
I want it to be Dexter Loomis, this new Dexter Loomis. I want
it to be the new Rowan.I don't want them to give us these
new characters that we have to nowaccept them as different people than they were.
I want it to be Nicky Cross. Well, I think my lost

(01:22:30):
version of Nicky Cross that was leftbehind, rather than Mercy the Buzzard,
Like, I don't want let's litterit this way, Let's look it this
way. Bo Dallas right now,so far we've seen he is Uncle Howdy
and so that's his other character.And for now the first time with these
tapes, but also on raw inAdam Pearce's office, we've now seen Bo
Dallas. Now, to me theway I see it, as I think,

(01:22:53):
at least now, at least atfirst, maybe Bo Dallas is the
only one of them who can accessboth of his personalities. He can be
on Quality when he wants, hecan be Vodallas, or maybe he doesn't
even have control, but we willget both. I don't necessarily know if
these characters are going to start offhaving the same capabilities, So maybe for
at least the beginning of this,we do just get these new characters,

(01:23:15):
and then over time they access thesame powers that he has and are able
to access their their ulterior personalities andeverything like that. I think it's I
think it's very unique and interesting andcaptivating, and I just like every week
I find myself really looking forward tothese segments and like, I'm just really

(01:23:35):
into it so far, and Ijust love to see what they're going to
do and when we will hear thename Wyatt again, because they haven't uttered
the words him, Like even whenhe was saying, like my brother,
when my brother died, he neversaid the name brave Wyots And like Paul
Nyman mentions the whyats and I thinksome other person said why it's family,

(01:23:56):
but but we've not heard that wordin any these segments yet, so I'm
kind of anticipating that as well.Also anticipation for the re united Rascals in
NXTY been hoping for it, We'vebeen praying for it. We've been we've
been seeing signs and thinking, oh, Wess feuding with a trio, He's

(01:24:20):
gotta get back up right, It'sgotta happen, It's gotta happen, And
finally it happened. The Rascals arein NXT. I don't even know what's
going on. I don't know whatit means because because it didn't say,
like I know, TNA obviously hasa work in relationship with them now,
but they made it sound like theywere here to stay. They're like,

(01:24:44):
like, I think it's about timethe Rascals run roughshot on NXT. What
do you say? Like it didn'tsay it seemed like they were just here
to say hi and leave. Iliked when they said, uh, they
said the two of us, wewere the MSK with the three of us
rascals. I was like, yeah, that's right exactly. Like he makes
the point to say, well,if you get me and Zactly got MSA,

(01:25:05):
you had all, you've got theRascals. So they're making a point
to distinguish. It makes me askquestions about Trey Miguel's contract, makes me
ask questions about Zachary wentz contract,and makes me wonder if maybe at this
point NXT is willing to just starttrading people the TNA, because, like

(01:25:26):
I said it, it didn't seemto me like this was a special appearance,
and it seems to me that nextweek we'll probably be getting a six
man tab if not the Rascals versusGallas. Definitely the Rascals versus three wrestlers,
Like, I think we'll get thatnext. Here's my prediction, which
I don't think has been announced yet. I think TKO is I think t

(01:25:48):
KO owns TNA. I think TKOis funding TNA behind the scenes. I
think they already own their archive orhas been funding their archive. So I
think TNA is owned by by tKO, and that's why this is happening,
and that's why it's going to continuehappening. And t KO sees an

(01:26:11):
obvious benefit of WWE lifting up TNAand letting them do their own thing at
the same time and now having twowrestling companies that are growing. Otherwise there's
no point in doing this. It'sfunny because they did team with Endeavor for
like the streaming service like at theend of last year. That's what it

(01:26:34):
is. I'm almost positive that thereis also ownership because it's just it's too
convenient that this is happening. Interesting, Yeah, because like I said,
they weren't canoodling, They're they're likeconsummating. Right. Yeah, that's wild.

(01:26:56):
That's that's a good that's a goodlittle theory. I like that.
Predictions were not even prediction accusation ofsorts. They're probably just doing it to
that They're doing it this way todrive Tony Kahan crazy. They could just
announce it, but by announcing itto ruin the fun, right, this
is way more fun exactly everybody.Yeah, not just not just the rastle's

(01:27:23):
coming over because somebody said his nameand Joe Hendry had to appear. Uh.
They they ended the NXT pay perview, which we'll talk about in
just a minute, with Joe Hendry'sface because randomly popping up earlier in the
night of last night's n XT trick, Williams says, you know, it's
probably not a good idea to takethem both on by myself. Maybe I

(01:27:45):
should look for a partner. Heleaves, and what happens to the monitor
he was just sitting in front ofbottom. Joe Henry's face pops up again.
So in the main event, itwas no surprise that Joe Hendry appeared,
and he was a little more surprisingthat Joe Hendry got the win.
Joe Hendry's got pinfalls in NAXT.Now I will say with Joe Henry,

(01:28:10):
I mean we've talked about those numeroustimes. You know how I feel about
entrance music, and that's what Ialways feel, like aw lax unless they
buy an actual song, like thisman is over simply because of his song,
Like simply, like I'm not sayinghe can't wrestle, well, he
can go, but like this manis clearly over. Like I knew his
song before I knew who he was. And it's one of those things where

(01:28:30):
it's gotten over so much that it'sliterally everywhere. I like to give a
lot of credit to his feud withAJ Francis, only because this isn't a
thing. Joe Henry didn't make thissong. Now, this song's been his,
Oh yeah, I know, twentynineteen it was his. It was
his feud with Top Dollar AJ Francis, where AJ Francis and him were going

(01:28:53):
back and forth with songs and everything. That feud really did do a lot
for Joe Hendry and I think Joan, we're still reaping the benefits. Speaking
of A. J. Francis,the streets are saying that he was backstage
at XTE. I don't know ifmaybe he was there to support Joe Hendry
or if maybe people in NXT areconsidering bringing back the former top dollar to

(01:29:14):
a little to a little canoodle inaction. I don't know. Top dollars
seems angry and like bitter. Icould see a J Francis and Obafemi have
been like a big man matchup.Dude, I can't believe we passed over
wes Lee and Oba Femi's freaking match. We didn't pass over. We didn't
yet. I know. Well,I figured we were talking about Yeah,

(01:29:35):
I got take it there. Let'stalk about you is a monster like that
man like he he continues like toredefine a powerhouse, Like he's such a
powerhouse and like everybody's so behind himand he oh, he's so great and

(01:29:57):
like wes Lee's great too, AndI thought they complimented each other. They're
so well in the ring, He'sso fantastic and trims alone like he's gotten
awe about him the way he popsand bounces around. Dude, I told
you you excited to see him.Yeah, I told you. There was
a moment, like when I wasat that NXT show that I paused staring
at everyone because I'm like, thisis a cult. These people are about

(01:30:19):
to follow this man into battle becausethey were so good. I wish I
could have. I wish I recordedone of the guys where he would looks
so angry and he was like,like everybody, he would look like it
was insane, Like Oba Femi justhas it. Man. He's so good.
Yeah, no, he's really good. And we've obviously seen so many

(01:30:42):
powerhouses in history of wrestling, butthe way he utilizes strength, it's still
innovative, Like he finds new ways, Like even just him being on the
top rope and throwing Wesley from there, like that's things you don't see every
day. Like his shows his strengthare just never not impressive. And yeah,
these two, their chemistry is throughthe roof. This will probably be
the last time we see these twofight each other for a very long time.

(01:31:03):
Since Wesley cannot challenge for the NorthAmerican Championship as long as OVERTHEMI is
champ which I think is good forhim. I think he should leave that
and now that he can't chance theNorth American Championship, maybe he sets his
sights one day for the NXC Championship. Could happen. I totally be okay
with it. I thought this,I thought this pay per view was I

(01:31:28):
think it was better than money inthe bank. I thought this this pay
per view was it felt like myold NXT that I used to watch where
we were like I remember being like, what was your favorite NXT of the
weekend, NXT takeover, like NXTpay per review of the weekend? Like
what was your favorite pay per view? And it's like, I don't even
want to put NXT in this categorybecause it's always NXT. And this is
what this PL felt like. Thisis what heat Wave felt like to me.

(01:31:51):
It felt old school but fresh,Like it's almost like they were passing
the torch like this this PL likereally asked the torch and solidified that they
are really moving forward with bringing backthe old feel of NXT with something fresh.
Yeah. This this show was onehundred percent compiled of the new generation

(01:32:13):
of NXT, the new brood soto speak. And and man did they
deliver. Like every match really knockedit out of the park. Gotta highlights
the NXT Women's North American Championship aswell. Kilanie Jordan and soul Ruka really
showed up and showed out what amazingchemistry. I'm sorry, but when you

(01:32:34):
guys have your first match and peopleare immediately comparing you to Will Ospray and
Ricochet, including Will Ospray and Ricochet. That's pretty fucking cool. Yeah,
yeah, that was pretty oft Andthey even, yeah, they were saying
it. They were like, oh, this looks like us, Like they
were even making mention that this wasthat their match was like them before somebody

(01:32:56):
put the clips on top of eachother. They knew, like, this
reminds me of like, yeah,John, what do you think about the
women's North American Champions? That wasprobably that was probably one of the more
impressive matches of the night. Ithought the I mean match was exactly what

(01:33:18):
I thought it would be. Ithought the Fatal four Way was exactly what
I thought it would be, minusthe outcome. I mean, every other
match was pretty much what I thoughtit would be. Well, your genie
so obviously over on you. Imean, I think I think everything as
much fun. Like the things thatare surprising are not the are not the

(01:33:42):
wrestling aspects of it. I thinklike the returns, some of the the
outcome, some of the like someof the storyline twists and turns, but
the actual matches very few. Likereal surprises for me, I well,
here's a surprise for me, andit's really just a testament to the Performance

(01:34:04):
Center, to the NXT coaching staff, everything Sean Michaels is doing there,
from the recruiting to the training KilanieJordan and so they both came into WW
with no wrestling experience and like theyfucking deliver like on a big stage,
championship match, singles match, likeand these these are home grown NXT town.

(01:34:29):
So to Daniel's point, what shewas saying about this reminding us of
the old Black and Gold, itreally does, because back then, you
would like, obviously they filled themselvesup with Finn Ballads and Kevin Owens and
John Organos and the vets of thebusiness, but you also had people like
Enzo and Big Cats who came into the performance that are ready to be
trained. You also had Chad Gableand Jason George who showed up in the

(01:34:50):
Performance Center obviously with amateur wrestling experience, put ready to train and be molded.
The street profits same thing. Imean, you can even say,
you can even say Charlotte Flair Beckylike, yeah, I mean, especially
Charlotte Garbage. She was hot garbagewhen she first started. Yeah, she
was so bad and she got sogood so fast, so the NXC coaching

(01:35:13):
staff, and NX has always hada phenomenal coaching staff. People have changed,
obviously, Scott Taylor used to bethere. Now not but a trane.
Matt Bloom is just an amazing headcoach. Sean Michaels is an amazing
chef, and they are really checkingit up, uh because because once,
like, oh man, it wasjust really I was really impressed with the
women on his card in particular.Oh yes, uh, Rexana Perez still

(01:35:38):
doesn't do it for me, butwe're getting there. I one thing I
was just really happy about in LolaIce getting catapulted to this level is the
fact that I know, you guysin particular were like a little salty that
she beat Shana. But it's like, this is why she needed to beat

(01:35:59):
Shane, because they need her tobe believable as a contender because they're not.
They're not meeting Rox Sanperez Vets anymore. You know, they're not bringing
that Mettalia to NXT and having over. So now you've got this new locker
room, how are we going tomake believable contenders? That's what we gotta
do right right? Yeah, thisthis pay per view top to bottom was

(01:36:19):
really it was really embarrassive for me. I really yeah. I I also
like the hometown reception we got forCarmen Petrovici and Ariana. Yeah. I
always have to remind myself Arion Graceis Santino's daughter. Yeah, me too,
Me too. All the time,I always forget. They'll be like

(01:36:40):
I'll be like looking on Twitter sometimesif I'm not watching something and I'm like
getting updates and people will mention it. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I forget that. And then that'swhy I remind myself She's Santino's kid.
I remind myself, Oh yeah,Santino's a fucking Canadian. Yeah. Yeah,
that's another thing. It's like,oh, like, I know he's
that obviously Italian like that, butsometimes the accidents so funny and just so

(01:37:05):
associated with him that you think atleast a little Italian. No, not
even a little bit, not evenamazing. But Danielle, we put it
off long enough to go ahead andtalk about the highlight of your night.

(01:37:25):
Let me tell you. I literallytexted you and said, they're in Canada.
Imagine they do it, and theymake Ethan page champion, and they
fucking did it. You were reallyreceptive. I know you were out about
and I was literally like, theydid it. They fucking did it.
I I was jumping so hard onmy bed I almost fell off. I
yeah, I I lost it.There was a moment where I was like,

(01:37:49):
nah, they're still gonna have trick, but I was like, how
many times are they gonna have EthanPage face this man before they call it
quits? And they did it,and I I lost it. I said
to you, I've been saying that, like all these shows, all these
companies have dropped the ball with himso many times, and like NXD did
it. NXD was just like yeh, you're you're coming in and we're immediately

(01:38:12):
making you like like he came ininterrupted trick and then that Sunday he was
in main event. That was it. And what I love is that.
And I kind of assumed that EthanPage left AW because he wanted to pursue
WWB. Apparently just left AW becausehe wasn't happy there. They know,
he saw things he didn't want tosee. He want to be there,

(01:38:33):
and then like I guess a weekor a week and a half after WWB,
that bat like reached out. Itwas like we want and they really
wanted him, because yeah, itcadabeled them immediate star status. I also
do love that they didn't just rushinto Ethan Page winning this so dominantly,

(01:38:53):
or even just having him. Hecould have just picked Trick out of the
ring and power bottom Javon, butno, Rick takes out everyone, including
Ethan Page, and Ethan Page fallsinto the pinfall. So it was kind
of flopy, which is great fora heel, especially Ethan Page all ego
heel, because it's dad enough whenyour heel's got a big ego. But

(01:39:14):
when you watch him get so fuckinglucky and then never acknowledge that luck,
I mean, that's just heel likemagic, and it still keeps Trick strong.
It doesn't make Trick look bad that, oh he lost to this guy
who just came in or anything likethat, Like Trick can still hold it
if he works. He got screwedover Sean Spears's pulling out of the ring
for no goddamn reason. That Mattressthat match and Javon evans Javon I always

(01:39:43):
pronounce a rope. Yeah he whata Oh my god, the vast improvement
on this guy, this guy,I mean, he was he was amazing
during this match. Yeah, heno, he's so good, really good.
I'm not exactly sure what's going onwith I think Brooks Jensen attack him
backstage is probably a way to gracefullytake Evans away from the main event,

(01:40:04):
right and title picture. He doesn'tneed to stick around. It's good that
he got in there. It's goodthey let him interrupt the opening segment and
stay claim and say listen, I'mhung with all of you guys, so
don't think you're doing me yet.But then he can go ahead and still
play around in the mid card.He's super over and super impressive, one

(01:40:25):
hundred per I Also a lot ofpeople are like, oh, wow,
the Trick era is over already.It is uh, it is. The
money's in the chase. It's alwaysalways in the chase, watching a baby
face chase. Yeah, yeah,this is gonna help Trick more than a
dominant reign would have this and EthanPage as a heel with the title being

(01:40:49):
cocky about it even though he wantedin a fuddy duddy way like this is
perfect. I was so happy forhim to win the title. I'm like,
yep, I was like, thisis the guy one of my favorite
things about Ethan Page is he remindsme Kevin Owens. He always has like
there's a lot of comparison to them, like Canadian, super nice, great,
heels great on the mic. Whenyou when you brought me to Season

(01:41:09):
Page for the first time, yousaid you're gonna like him. He reminds
me of Kevin. Kevin Owens,Yeah, and I remember giving you a
list of all the things that makethe match. I'm like, they're both
Canadian, They're both great on themic. His his name for a while
was Beast, and I was like, Kevin Owens has Beast tattooed on his
hand. I was like going intothe whole thing because Ethan Page has been
my number one for such a longtime that I was so excited. He's

(01:41:30):
so happy. Ethan Page has longbeen one of the most underutilized talents in
wrestling, very long time, goingall the way back to like his evolved
days, Like it felt like therewere times where you and I were the
only people that saw like main eventcapabilities in him, or like, what
the fuck is going on? Whydoes no one else see this? Are

(01:41:53):
we crazy? Do we not knowgood wrestling? Are we wrong? What's
going on there. There was alot going on because I remember refreshing right
because he was having that big feudwith Darby Allen for a while and that
was a fantastic one. And thenhe would bring up the stuff to Gabe
in involved. I remember watching adocumentary on it and Gabe was like,
you're not ready to be champed.You're not ready to be champed, and
I'm like, what do you mean, It's time for him to be champ.
And then he didn't do that.Then he went to AW and they

(01:42:15):
put him in a tag team.Then he was in Roh and there was
potential there for Roh. I'm skippingTNA by accident, then an impact impact
he was tag Champ. I didlove when he was walking in. I
don't know if you caught it inthe beginning of the pay per view.
He was walking in and he looksover and it said the North and he
just like smirked and kept walking andI was like, this is so well
done. And I that was onpurpose because The North was a great Champ

(01:42:38):
was a great tag run too.They did him dirty too. Yeah,
I'm very happy. I'm sorry,I'm getting over excited, but you know
how much I love Ethan Page.Yeah, No, it's so refreshing to
see him in the main event.It's so freshing to see him as a
World champion. It happened so fast, like he's literally been on like fucking
four shows. If that nanny,I do think there's a very good chance

(01:43:03):
that WWE gets trigger happy with himand just decides, you know what,
all right, let's let's let himhold the belt for like three months,
then we're moving into the main rounLike I could see it happening, because
I'm not saying they're definitely gonna doit, because the truth is, they
kind of need him in NXT withit being such a new you know,
breed in just a new group,so they need a vet like Ethan Page,

(01:43:28):
you know, to kind of bea locker room leader now and be
a champion. But at the sametime, I do think they know exactly
what they have with him. Ithink they know that the industry as a
whole weighted too long for him,Like he's he's way older than he should
be when it comes to his firstWorld championship on TV, you know what
I mean. Yes, I don'teven think he's thirty. He just turned
thirty even though I call everyone old. Now he's gotta be old. Thirty

(01:43:55):
he's like thirty three. Deably,he's young. He's much he's younger than
us. He's thirty sorry, thirtyfour, he's thirty four. Okay,
thirty four is fine, all right, good for it. Thirty four is
fine. And just how is JohnCena? John Cena is eighty seven.
Imagine he's like forty two or fortyfour. John Cena is forty seven years

(01:44:18):
old. Just turned in April.Oh my god, wow, oh man,
so he will be he will beforty eight by the time he retires.
Since John Cena just announced that twentytwenty five is the John Cena Retirement
Tour, John Cena will be fortyseven when he retires because his last will
be WrestleMania. No, yeah,oh I thought last last last wrestle Mania,

(01:44:44):
because it's gonna be his last WrestleMania. But he's got the whole year.
Oh okay, you're right, goall the way to I don't know
if he'll go to like December thirtywhatever, like the very last show and
that will be his last match,or if he'll pick like maybe the last
big show would probably be like survivSeries or I don't know, but he
did clarify that Wrestle Meedi is notgoing to be his retirement, that they're
gonna give it to Baron Corban.Imagine they're just like Baron Corbin is just

(01:45:13):
known for retiring people. Now,Joan Angle, let's just both give him
Corbett. If I were Triple hjust for a good laugh, I would
let it be the Learning Tree.Chris Jericho, Oh John Cena's last Max.

(01:45:41):
Oh God, that would be sofunny because they I mean, they
had a legendary feud. That wouldbe so funny, right if I mean,
it would only push Jericho's character iflike, but it'd still be funny.
He was the young buck that thatthat got put over and seen his
last match, right, Honestly,I can't. Edge is the one that

(01:46:04):
keeps going in my head. Iknow that might not be possible, but
Edge is the one that keeps goingin my head. I mean be Orton,
Yeah, yeah, that's I'm saying. Like, is the question,
like, are we looking for hisgreatest rival to have one last match or
to the scene a go out withsomebody he's never faced before, the scene

(01:46:25):
a put over bronze breaker in hislast match. Shucks, it can't be
Austin theory. They pulled the triggertoo soon for that. I could have
been Austin theory. I have afeeling by that, I'll go, Okay,
no, no, it's either goingto be Our Truth or Prick Williams.

(01:46:47):
Trick Williams would be in good like. William is going to be on
the main roster by then, Soit's either going to be him or just
to get the audience what they want. That's going to be his last match,
Our Truth, getting to face hischildhood hero. I'm not gonna lie.
I'm very surprised that you didn't sayLa Knight l A Knight at that

(01:47:12):
point. I l A Knight's gonnahopefully have a world title and not be
competing with John Cena. I willsay. I will say I hope that
when La Knight wins the United StatesChampionship, he starts the Open Challenge and
John Cena is one of his challengers. I don't know, no, no,
no no no. Sena has thatthere are two titles. Scena needs

(01:47:35):
to pick a path and go downeither. But he could just do an
Open Challenge. It is an openchallenge match. It's not gonna lead to
a few seeing it. When Sinacomes back, he can't continue losing because
he's only back for thirty to fortydates. Me, he's either going for

(01:47:57):
just coming in and burying. He'sjust gonna be burying people. No,
he's not. He's not, buthe has to. He's been losing every
match he's come back for, sohe has to start winning some matches.
So he's either gonna he's probably notgonna win the rum ball he's taking,
possibly going to either win elimination Chamberor money in the bank. And here's

(01:48:18):
the question. Does he win adoes does he win a World Championship?
Again, Well, that's the questionbreak the record. The question is does
he break the record or does hego for the Intercontinental title and become a
Grand Slam because right now, themizs is a double Grand Slam, and
Scene is not even a single GrandSlam champion. Single Scene is not a

(01:48:41):
Grand Slam champ. That's right,he's not icing the tournament. I forgot
we did the tournament we're talking about? Or are they going to give him
both next year? He's going tobreak the record. Actually, that's why
I'm like, he doesn't even havea record misses of the record for most
losses in w w B H anddoesn't he have the record for like most
matches. He's like the top fourfrom what you told me, right,

(01:49:05):
yeah, yeah, yeah, becauseit's like him, Koche and Orton's healthy
all the time, so he wasalways losing. So like I, it's
it's crazy that he he he hasthe most losses, but it makes sense
because he was barely ever out forinjuries. I don't think he was ever
out for injuries, was he.I think he was for a little bit

(01:49:28):
and for filming movies. But ohyeah, we're shot in like three days
because they were all gone. Ido remembering always came back from really quick,
right. I remember the injury thinghim saying when he talked to Brian
Brian Danielson on Talking Smacked, hedefinitely mentioned that he's never been hurt,
like he's never out because of injury. Oh man, I don't know what

(01:49:49):
Johnson. What an amazing career JohnCena had. I remember watching Johnson to
get the wrapping Gammick over and reallycommitting to it and really like blowing us
away with a lot of his freestylesand a lot of his wordplay, and
then he'd go on interviews and youcould tell he was actually rapping and actually

(01:50:09):
freestyling and actually had talent, andyou know, it was just it was
really cool to watch him organically getover as a babyface, even as a
heel, and and the crowd turnedto babyface in a very short time.
And then watching WWB somehow fumble thatand make him the most hated motherfucker.
Yeah, all of wrestling was justwhat a what a time, what a

(01:50:31):
strange time period that was to bea wrestling fan. Yeah, I mean,
yeah, what a way, likeso hated the John Cena sug and
then turning into like love and admiration, Like it's it's been a rollercoaster.
I mean it's it's like they didit right with Roman reigns, and really,

(01:50:51):
you know, finally turned a delused them right and allowed the fans
to respect him and appreciate him whilehe was there. Would see that they
never did that, so people kindof had to start respecting towards the end
of it. Or remember, they'dbe like there'd be promo segments that Sina
would literally talk the fans into likinghim like like you'd feel it. They
hated it because he was seen ofbut oh shit, he's good. He'd

(01:51:12):
have a match and by the endof it, they're like, this is
awesome. Like, you know,Sena always had to fucking remind people what
he brought to the table. Andhere's another question, and I'm sure people
are going to shoot it down,but listen. The main reason they never
went with the scene of heel turn, as we've been told, is because
they didn't want to sacrifice the merchandisethat he was moving. They didn't want
to sacrifice the make a wish requestthat he was getting. They didn't want

(01:51:35):
to make the kids, you know, upset or whatever. But Sena's not
really there anymore. So does sceneit finally turn heel? Does he get
like three to five months of abad guy Sina? No, he said
that he's not doing it, whichhis answer at the press the press conference
was so stupid, but he madeit very clear that wasn't happening, damn,

(01:52:00):
which is so annoying. That's justI'm too nice of a person.
People won't believe I'm actually an asshole. I'm just it was so dumb.
But I don't know, I feellike this Scena run is going to be
pretty good. I'm curious if peopleare going to be like, hey,

(01:52:21):
it's his last run, let's getbehind him regardless of what happens, or
if people are going to feel likeit's being shoved down their throats and turn
on him, like if he startswinning things and take like if he starts
taking belts from people that that theaudience is behind, I wonder if they're
going to turn on him. Likelet's say l A Knight is a champion

(01:52:43):
and that's who's Seena takes a titlefrom, Like I mean, I don't
think they they'll care if it's Cody. But let's say Scena takes it from
Gunther. He might be the oneto dethrone Gunther. Let's say Gunther wins
uh the title at SummerSlam and hehas it until next Summer Slam and seen
as the one that beats him forit. Is that so thing that's gonna
make that's gonna piss people off.So I think it's gonna be interesting what
happens. I would love to seeSina win money in the bank, has

(01:53:05):
even won. I think I thinkseen it. I think Sena can easily.
He has one money in the bank, but he cast in and lost.
But I think that's what I thinkit's gonna hang over. I can
see Sina putting over Cody, likeI could see Sina challenging Cody. Want
it, they haven't. Sina's neverencountered this Cody, you know what I

(01:53:27):
mean. The Cody that works withSina was was a different Cody. So
I think this that that could bea very interesting that I think Seena would
put Cody over. What I loveis for Seena to be facing heal Cody
and like kind of turn him becausehe'll code that kind of could kind of
eat babyface Sina and kind of justcompletely be against everything that he is because

(01:53:53):
that's what Cody was when he cameback. I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised
if they go the route where RomanReigns comes back and then they do Roman
in the Rock against Cody and Sina. No way, I would hate every
second of that. I didn't sayI like it, but I wouldn't be
surprised. I can't imagine Romans gonnabe a heel in the next two years.

(01:54:16):
I think Roman's gonna have a bitI'm just saying, like a match,
I might just be a match.I don't even know if it's going
to be like a story, butI could see it being a match.
Maybe. I would love for Seeato do like a run through of history.
I would love for Seea to haveanother match with The Rock. It
would probably be a terrible match,but I would love for him to go
through the history. I would lovefor him to face The Rock. I
would love for him to face seempund Ye Punk. Yeah, Punk would

(01:54:40):
be great, Orton, Orton.I would love for him to face.
It would be great for Triple Hto get one last go see him against
Raymysterio. I bet this it getsto the end of twenty twenty five,
Seen is finally retiring out of nowhere, Mark Henry shows up beat the piss
out of them. Yeah, Ithink I'm done. Yeah. I wish

(01:55:09):
Sina came out in some pastels andsaid he was going to retire and then
he actually didn't. He ruined everythingfor everyone. But I mean, I'm
gonna do some like they're gonna dosome like Sappy Ship, where like they
have like Undertaker record a video ofhow great Sena is. Yeah, of

(01:55:29):
course, And you don't think they'regonna have cameras following him the way that
they did this WrestleMania documentary. They'regonna have following him everything. We're five.
We're just gonna have to wait andsee everyone. Thank you so much
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