Episode 266 - ALL IN ON ALL IN - Heel Marks: A Wrestling Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:32):
They're not just smart. They're not just smart. Ladies and gentlemen,
fans and friends, we are back once again. I'm the
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(00:52):
she is the Sultan of Sarcasm, the Sorceress of sass,
the blonde ballbuster and everybody's favorite coach. She is Danielle,
I and Brady. Together we are the best friends in
all the land. We are the heel Marks, and that's
exactly what this is, another edition of the heel Marks.
Come one, come all, apologize for the delays we have

(01:16):
Both all three of us, in fact, have been trapped
in cutivity. Usually it's only Danielle but we all got
trapped in cutivity this time. I think it's because I
hung out with Danielle and then like I got her
scent on me and then like that, just like you know,
became a rash. It's like Jumanji type of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's exactly what it is. What Danielle Hi, we had
a pay per view nice and early.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, guys, and that is, by the way, just what
this is gonna be. This is not gonna be your
typical episode of heel Marks. Be on the lookout for
that one. But this is AE w all In. Just happened,
Just happened. I think the media scrum is happening right now.
Show probably finished at an hour ago if it's ish,
and so this is gonna be one hundred percent and

(02:04):
all in recap reaction episode. Yeah, only talking about aw Allen.
So if you didn't watch aw all In yet, maybe
hold off on listening to this episode. Watch it first, unless,
of course, you're the type of guy or gal that
enjoys hearing people talk about something before you watch it.
I don't know if that's a thing, but I'm sure

(02:27):
it is in this crazy, crazy world. So once again warning,
this is one hundred percent and aw all in episode
and as Danielle said that it did just happen, I
mean should we just I feel like since we just
watched it instead of our normal episode where we would
just kind of go through it as it, because we

(02:48):
kind of can talk about like the biggest talking point,
the thing that just happened, the main event, we can
kind of get into that first.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I wish you said the big thing that happened and
then I threw in something funny, but instead you were
like the main.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Event, and I was like, I didn't let that one breathe.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I was gonna be like, oh, oh't the ad for
or wait, I don't know, I couldn't think of anything
funny to say.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, it was there a few, a few big
things definitely happened. We have ships change hands, we had
a debut, but as I said, yeah, the biggest talking point,
in my opinion, we have a new world champion. Brian
Danielson came out to his old theme song, the Final Countdown,

(03:36):
which I don't know about you, and I'm sure that's
why they did it, and I feel like they but
it totally it totally made me think, oh, this is it.
It's the final match, and they of course they you know,
the final countdown.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
I'm gonna get my my meanness out of the way.
Now swerves entrance, not good swerves entrance.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Wait, how dare you I know this was?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
This was bun b It was yeah, he was like,
I couldn't hear them like they were low. It didn't
like resonate well, it just seemed like amateurs rapping and
it did not come off well.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
And I love that song. I I damn, I'll give
you that.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'll give you that. It did. It did seem like
it was a bit tough, and also you could hear
that it was clearly playing so bun beat it near
story half the rap. So he was true, Yeah, it
was a little. It was a little.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
It was a little sloppy for me, and it looked
very amateur, and I was not a big fan of it.
That's one and my other was R calling calling Brian
Danielson Daniel Bryanson. That was one of my favorite parts too.
I was like, oh, j R.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
You know what's so funny about that, because, like, for
no reason at all, really earlier today, I was just
randomly thinking about the fact that like and JR. Gets
so much ship, like in a in a w Ever
since he started with them, he gets shit when he
makes mistakes like that, when he flubs up a name
or anything, but like just randomly today, I was thinking

(05:06):
about the fact that this has been like even JR.
In his prime, when JR. Was killing it and being
called the greatest commentator in any sport, he still did it.
He got Matt and Jeff Hardy wrong all the time,
and he used to write like a column, Jr's column
for like WW magazine, and he would even like make
jokes on himself. This is of course back when the

(05:27):
fans couldn't easily roast him on Twitter or anything. But
he would be like, why do I why can I
not tell Matt and Jeff apart? Why do I sometimes
confuse edgend Christian. I don't know, my mind must be
going kids.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean, I'm not gonna judge him too much because
you know me in punishment.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Hernandez and Martinez or whatever, I used to call Damien
Prize all the time. But it was just funny that
he like completely flubbed it, and I was just like,
oh man. He also said, like, oh I've been calling
him for like twenty five years or something like that.
He was like saying some insane thing about Danie, about
de bry.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Or Brian Danielson as I call him. I like d Bran,
it's nice and short. I can't go be Dan.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I mean I definitely don't think JR has been
calling him for that long.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Maybe he said something about him being for twenty years
or following him for twenty years or something.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, well that's that's completely because also back then I
think JR would have still been involved with recruiting talent
and stuff like that, or at the very least they
send him to like regret or to scout, not to
mention the fact that Daniel Brian was I'm sorry, Brian
Danielson was. He was clouded as you know, a protege

(06:37):
and a trainee of Sean Michaels, right, so like it
makes sense, and they took they hired Brian Kendrick from
you know, like off that same accolade for off that
same training class, so they definitely did have their eyes
on him. Brian Danielson was brought in for a couple
for at least like one match on like what was

(06:58):
that show they did, like or something metal?

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, I mean he's been here.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
He signed in with ww in what two thousand and nine,
that's like fifteen years a long time.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I feel very old saying that that was fifteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
But you know, wait, was it really two thousand and nine?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah? I just googled it.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
That was the year.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Whe When did Daniel Bryant sign on August two thousand
and nine? August twenty third, two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Roh.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Now that Daniel signed it had signed a deal with WWE,
and he debuted in twenty ten, sorry.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Twenty ten.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That was the NXT debut.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
In a dark match prior to RAW defeating Chavo Guerrero.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Oh so like that was his first dark match?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Okay, so but still he signed in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Right right, right, And NXT probably did start in twenty
ten because yeah, the Nexus Jesus Christ, the Nexus was bro.
Oh my god, Bro, time has to slow the fuck down?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, NEXTUS two ten.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Sorry, So going into this match, what did you think
the not not what did you think was gonna happen?
But what did you think the best booking decision was
for this match?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I thought that?

Speaker 4 (08:10):
So how I know of Brian Danielson and how he does.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
He's the type of vet that goes out on his back.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
So I was very certain that I thought the booking
decision would be to make Swerve look as good as
possible and have Swerve win. The only reason I changed
my mind is when I saw Brie and the kids
in the audience. I was like, Oh, I was like,
Brian Danielson's winning, because there's no way he's going to
let himself get this bloody and traumatize these children without
a payoff.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, that was that was a big part of the story,
building up the fact that, like it was practically announced,
they were going to be ringside right and and to
your point, uh, Danielsen still will be doing that because man, listen,
they can always rewrite it and he can sign a
new contract. You can stick around for another three years.

(08:59):
We don't know. But if we're taking him for his
word and it wasn't all just malarkey story, k fabe
if and from what I'm reading, he's far from one
hundred percent and he's getting cleared for like these matches
on a match by match basis, which is not necessarily standard.
And from what I've read, he's going to start working
a more decrease schedule and wrestling less matches, So it

(09:22):
does kind of set the table for the fact that
when he does lose the title, he probably will be
done wrestling for AW, be done wrestling full time.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Right, They just probably Yeah, they just wanted to give
him the title before he leaves.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
And that's not so said. I'm to still go out
on his back. I'm I'm here's my thing, and and listen,
it was a great moment, right, and and I'm fucking
so ecstatic to see him as world champion again because
you know, and he deserves it, and he is the
best fucking wrestler in the world, and the best wrestler
in the world should hold the title. So so I
get it. And I'm not complaining about this at all.

(09:58):
This is not a complaint. This is just a concern.
I feel like I'm noticing a pattern where AW will
build to moments and then not really have a plan
for how to contain and continue the momentum that brought
you to that moment, and so then a few months later,
like for example, let's go back to Hangman page, I

(10:20):
feel like that story building him as their babyface becoming
champion that had been started since the before the company
was a company.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, because everyone thought he was gonna we thought.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
He was an ever champ well because he was the
only one in the elite that didn't become an EVP.
And it almost felt like because they were label and
Cody was talking about it all the time, he's our
our our clean up hitter. You know, this guy is
gonna be our prime time player. We can we can
build the company around him. And that story was so
long and so emotional, and it really took us on

(10:52):
a ride, and that crowd rode with that ride the
entire fucking way. And it felt like to me, as
soon as we got hanging in a champion like two
three months later, seeing Punk walks in and and and
now we've got to get the belt on him, and
it just felt like that whole like they they abandoned
the story that they built up to and it was

(11:14):
kind of just a moment we got, I think, and
then here with Swerve, like I feel like they built
so you know, they like it was longer than you
even realized, like that building to that moment of him
getting the momentum and then them switching him face and
then actually going through with it, and once again, now
I feel like it's only a few months later. I
don't remember exactly when he won it, but I feel

(11:35):
like it hasn't been that long that I want it.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
December thirtieth, I believe against Samoa Joe. Correct or did
I make that up?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
You didn't make it up because you sounded so smart
saying it. Let's see, I think, so.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I want to say, I.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Let me look this up, and you talk a little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, so my favorite color no, So yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
And I hate to use the term finishing a story,
but I feel like they finish a story and they
but they don't like it's done, and instead of evolving
them into a new story, they just go stale and stop.
I think that's the problem, and I think that's what
AW does a lot. I think AAW has a really
big problem with not knowing what to do after like

(12:25):
you said, and I think it becomes a little bit sloppy,
and then you leave people almost in limbo and like
you don't know what to do with them, and it's
very it's a very weird way of doing stuff. But
it's also like, I don't know, it just it gets weird.
I lied April twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
First he won, right, I I did the research you
were talking. I was waiting for you to talk. I
was gonna come in with the research. You wasted my research. Sorry,
but yeah, so he held it. He held it for
like just over four months, right, you know what I mean?
And like and like to build to that for that, Like,
I just feel like they abandoned Samoa.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Joe won on the thirtieth I remember because people were
very mad he won.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I loved every moment of it.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, to one, I knew somebody won at that. I
thought it was swerve though, But yeah, yeah, I just
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I just feel like.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
What like, like I want I want to be the
one to take the title back from from Brian Danielson.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
I want that to happen.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's not gonna happen. And and wondering who will be
the one to take that off and is certainly intriguing
and we'll get into that. But like, on one hand,
and once again, like I think Brian ands is a
great world champion. However, if if I think Tony Kahn
is an emotional booker sometimes and so and I think

(13:47):
like if what I'm reading is accurate, right, And the
fact is that, like Brian Danielson's, you know, medical status
is an ongoing issue to the point where they constantly
have to get him cleared, constantine, make sure he's good,
constantly have to evaluate him to see what percentage he's on,
constantly make sure, Okay, we're gonna work less matches. Was

(14:08):
this the best time to make him champion now? Because now,
because Brian Danielson as champion, like the character. If we're
going with what kind of champion he should be, he
should be the work Coors Champion, kind of like back
what Johnson to did with the US Championship where he
takes everyone who never gets a title shot, brings him
the ring and says, let's fucking go under. That would
be the Brian Danilson World Championship rain we get, but

(14:30):
we can't get that if he's not wrestling as much,
if he's only wrestling limited, that means those matches are
probably gonna be big time matches. Maybe they get put
him in the ring for thirty to sixty minutes, maybe
he has to go with weapons. So now, of course,
if he's already doing this at the end of his career,
He's not one hundred percent. We're now increasing the chance

(14:50):
of your champion getting hurt to a point where maybe
if you don't strip him, you're still putting he still
has to be away from the ring for two three
months while holding the championship. You have to strip him. So, like,
you know, I'm obviously wishing for the best here, but
I do feel like if I'm just looking at it
from a booker perspective, I don't know if it was
the wisest company decision. A bit of emotional booking.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Right, I think he does that a lot.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Someone comes in and like you know, Seampunk came in
and immediately he was like, Okay, we have to get
the title on him.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And it's like, and that was unnecessary.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's like we've we've said it numerous times on the
show where we were like book Seampunk, like Brian Danielson,
have him get people.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Over and then he doesn't need a championship. You could
throw it on him later, but he they threw it
on him immediately.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
And and the way that Brian Enchlum was booked, in
the way he worked, and also what we know about
how he stepped up as a leader backstage and everything
he's done coaching the talents, this and that. That's the
reason why you can't really complain about this, and like
this is because they really did build to it from
the beginning. Every big loss that he had, putting people

(15:59):
over or it crescendos here, it builds up to this
where it wasn't just he had the world handed to
him here And yeah, like the other day last week
was the first time I think we heard him in
AW call himself the best fucking wrestler in the world,
which is fucking see a punk. They announced him to
the ring.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
As it, which is inaccurate, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
But everyone has openly and publicly acknowledged that Brian Allinson
is one of, if not the best wrestler in the world.
So ending his AW career without a World championship, like
we kind of sought from different ends where we're seeing
him as the VET and he's trying to help this
young company and help these young wrestlers. The truth is, though,

(16:44):
we're kind of past that point. So now a world
championship to end his wrestling career as a whole, perfect
way to set it out, perfect way to tell these
stories perfect way to give every match with him that
he has now a big fight field because it's not
just a championship match. We're all assuming he loses, he's gone.
This is kind of Rick Flair going into WrestleMania thing

(17:05):
where that every match he has, you lose, you're gun.
We're kind of getting that now, but for championship stakes.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, and it's kind of like John Cena doing his
tour where he's like kind of doing his farewell. This
is kind of I am Brian Danielson's farewell. I do
want to point out that I'd like to take back
every mean thing I've ever said about Wheeler Udah.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I will I.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I thought you were gonna say bribella and I was
gonna be so mad.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Nope, nope, Wheeler Uda.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
I take every bad thing I've ever said about him
off the table. He is my new favorite AAW champion.
This man, Brian Danielson won. He ran out and he
stood by the apron and waited to get ring with Claudia.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
No, no, no, he was there first.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
He ran out and he got ahead of Audio and
he stood there and I was like, this assholes about
to run in the ring, and nope, he waited, and
then he even went over and God bree and got
the kids with Claudio, and they waited. Granted it was
only fifty seven seconds, but I will say he waited
because he let Brian Danielson be in the ring to
hold up his championship.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, technically, technically, it's so funny that you're giving him
so much credit because I was. I watched the same
thing you did, and I thought you were gonna be
mad at him. I'm I'm underestimated or overestimating how serious
you take this, because technically, if we're gonna look at
this play by play, Wheeler, Da and Claudia are the
reason for the two minute rule not being established. They

(18:31):
picked the fucking kids up. Let those kids wait, you
crack them in there. Fuck, I will say.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
That, but I saw but I saw it in his
eyes to run into the ring.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
But he waited.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
He could have been wig under fifty seven seconds, and
he waited like it even Brion.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
The kids waited. They were like, we're just gonna stay
out here.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
And then and then yeah, and then Claudio and Wheeler
picked them up.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
I'm like, come on, kids, were you good? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Like whatever, But I take every bad thing guys ever
said about him because he waited and he gave that
man his moment, and now all of them are champions
and that's super fun.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So yeah, let's get let's let's let's go from that
to that. We've got more championships in the Blackpool Combat
Club than just the World Championship, as they did win
the Trio Championship along with Pac the Bastard.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
POC Yeah, yeah, who.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I was curious, Like, I get it, and I'm sure
they're friends behind the scenes, I hope, so it would
only make sense. But I was confused when Pac was
also in the ring for the celebration along with Wheeler
and Claudio only because yes, they're tag champs now. But
I don't think Pak's in the Blackpool Combat Club. He
probably fit in properly, but I just I don't think
he's in it.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
So think he came.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Out because what are two of the three gonna hold
up the championship with Brian Danielson and he's not gonna.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Be they're in the Blackpool Combat Club, the other chap
club that.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
In the club.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
He's not the club.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
But I think they just wanted that scene of like
all gold you know what I mean, all titles, I guess,
but yeah, I found it really And the thing that
did annoy me about this four way match was when
they announced that they were the Wild Color Entry.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was like, well, they're winning. This is such bullshit.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
I was because you know, I would prefer to see
someone else be champion, if I'm honest.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, but I know we like stables don't have championships.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, I'm not even talking about that. It's just more
of the fact that, like they obviously wanted to give
Pac a nice hometown victory. They wanted it, you know,
like that crowd really popped huge when he got not
even before he got the win, when he just started
hyping up and you knew, oh shit, this is what's happening.
He's building to it like they got big with it.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
You know what's so weird? I know, I if I.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
If I think of the Bang Bang Game, I'm like,
I'm not supposed to like these guys. There's something about
them that I'm just like, I'm not supposed to like you,
but I can't help but like them. I don't know
what it is. There's just something about them that I love.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Are you talking about like all of them collectively, because
I think Juice is harder to hate than you realize.
He's so crazy, and I like.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
All of them.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Juice is one of those that I can lose interest
in real quick. Like he's one of those. When he
sprayed mother with the hairspray, I was dying laughing and
I was like, why that was so funny, so silly,
but it made me laugh because he's so silly.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
With the guns. With the guns. I'll say we've seen
them from the beginning, like we've seen them as we
as literally they were just getting started kind of just
you know, teaming with their dad and admittedly learning on
the job and learning on television. We began to notice,

(21:57):
holy shit, these guys are actually getting it. I remember
constantly we would disagree, like, oh, I think this gun's better.
I think this gun's better. Well, that's actually good. They're
both attracting our attention. We're watching the improvement. Then there
was that period of time where they were kind of
backstage doing not too much along with the acclaimed and
them doing their own backstage things and creating their own thing.

(22:20):
Everyone got the attention again, and then you got to
see them split in both achieved success. So we've literally
watched the Guns just go from night and day, similar
to a Dominic Masterio situation where from from his first
match too. Now it's just a completely different aura from
these guys, same same deal.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I mean, Dominic Masteria became Dirty dom so he has
that gimmick. Them they're kind of just the guns, like
you know what I mean, They're kind of just this
silly fun like almost like Nepo baby like gimmick.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
But there's how fun they are. They fucking turned on
their dad how many times?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
How they I don't know what it is about them.
I love them.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
But yeah, Juice Robinson, he's really hard to not like.
Like time I watch him, You're so good.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah. All I think with him is the fucking Honey Combs.
Honey comes and ask.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Pro he's so good. He's so good.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
I also think Brodie King should have a singles run eventually,
like stay with the House of Black, but I think
he should be the standout of that crew. I know
he's like people love Buddy Matthews and love Malachi Black,
but Brody King.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Brody's the only one that rumors haven't hit the streets
about wanting to leave, not saying that there's any truth
to him with Malachi and Buddy. Constantly the streets are talking.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Brody's so good. I love Brody, you know what, I
love me.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I love Brody's obsession with throwing Darby Allen off the
stage at concert. It's like these guys are best friends
but have like a cafe, so anytime they go to
a concert together, they're like, all right, by the way,
people are gonna see us, so I have to beat
you up at some point.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I love the Darby Allen just lets people throw him.
He's just like, all right, throw me, yay me, put
me in a bag, throw me, do this.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
He's crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Darby gives no fucks I mean about about his life. Honestly,
Darby still being alive is like a testament to just
God loving him.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
God loves him, and Sting loves him. Huh, and Sting
loves him. Sting absolutely loves him. That match was Jack
Perry is really evolved like as a as a performer,
and I.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Love this gimmick like I love the Jack Perry.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I did love Jungle Boy, but the Jack Perry this
is fantastic, Like he totally went with it and reinvented
himself and it's really fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
This match was fun.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
It was coffee matches are silly to me, but it
works for Darby Allen, so like that's fine. But like
when they were pouring the gasoline, I was like, I'm
not I wouldn't even be surprised if this was real
gasoline because Darby Allen is a cycle, like he's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, also, Jack Perry's a psycho path he wanted real glass.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yeah, and he was already set on fire, so he
was like, hey, I'm setting you on fire.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
So it was just so silly. The pop for Stingsting
looks great.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Didn't Sting look fantastic?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I was like, holy crap. I was like, you look fantastic.
I was like I love how.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I love how aw had no issues getting all these
people to travel to London, Like bun Bee was like, sure,
I'll come wrap him out, no problem. Sting is like sure,
I'll come help out, even though he's not gonna win, Like.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I don't like my therapy peutic pillow.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like sure, I'll take both kids and all our parents
will hop on the flight.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Sure, Yeah, Like you couldn't do this in like Florida
can do this in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
And you know what I did like about this match
in an odd way because obviously, normally with these matches,
especially this being so high profile, the less time it
is usually the worst. This one was just a little
bit over ten minutes, which I actually didn't mind, only
because it's violence, right, This is a blood few. These
guys hate each other. It's four championship, it's the coffin match.

(26:08):
And also, I mean, like Darby's losing a coffin match,
which is crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, I thought that I understood the outcome, but I
still thought it was weird. I feel like if it
wasn't for a championship, he would have won, possibly, But like, yeah,
Darby winning losing a coffin match is just weird to me.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
But are you gonna put Jack Perry in a coffin?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (26:26):
You put Darby in the coffin. He probably insisted on
being in the coffin.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
He probably could.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
That's probably a coffin from his house. It's probably like
hanging out in.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
The back these guys. This is a fun feud also,
only because while I do think it's been played out
at this point, it is fun when you see two
of the quote unquote four pillars get to compete, four
championship get to you know, join together as dance partners
for theoretically, like this was portrait as almost a co

(26:58):
main event. I know AW isn't really do that as
much as WWE, but really this was a premier matchup,
you know, one hundred percent. These are two of the
bigger talents on this company. Darby Allen's at the stage
where like he doesn't really need to win as much.
He's kind of just established as a badass who has
the capabilities of beating anyone at any day. So if

(27:20):
he loses short, it doesn't really matter because they'll still
light your ass on fire Boy's crazy.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I love him.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's so weird we watch it's just on another level.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Oh yeah, it's so weird.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
We've been watching Darby Allen for so long, you know
what I mean, Like we since he was like twenty.
I feel like we've been watching him forever, and it's
just so yeah, it's so incredible, and his gimmick just sticks.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
It's just you know, it feeds into.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Every Emo kid, every like Emo wrestling, every Jeff Hardy person,
Like he's that gimmick that, like.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I want to. I wonder if he's gonna have to
be one of those guys that like never goes heel.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Nah, he can't go heel.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think, I mean, I know he can do it
one hundred. I think Darby Allen is fucking is all
this teenage angst. He still holds deer like. I think
he could be heal in a second. In fact, there
were times where I was very paranoid that he was
gonna turn on Sting and that was gonna be how
the heel Darby happened. Especially as Sting was leaving. I

(28:21):
thought Darby might just say fuck it, fuck you, old man.
I also, but I'm questioned more if the Tony's ever
gonna do it, because Darby is always going to connect.
It doesn't matter how old he gets. He's always gonna
connect with that that teenager, that emo kid, the skateboarders,
the daredevils, the outcasts, the adrenaline junkies that don't know

(28:44):
why they want to jump out of planes, they just do.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Like you just root for the bad guy, then we've
done it with Kevin Owens. Like Kevin Owens, people love
him even when he is a heel Like there's just
certain people that stick funny. I try not to say
people should never turn heel or anymore.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
After there were.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Two people that I were like, these people are never
turning heel, And it was Baily and Sammy Zane, and
they were probably some of the best heels when they
actually turn here, because I was like, those two will
never turn heel.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Those are sweet baby faces, never, never, never.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
And then when they turned, I was like, this is
the greatest thing ever. So I try not to say, oh,
this person will never turn heel.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Before because both of them did have like the purest
babyface yeah all the resting of the time. But at
the same time anyway, it's Sandy. I think we knew
that he had capabilities, but we'd never really seen it.
But like both of them really just tapped into something
that we never saw and got to really experience great
heel runs from them. I wonder if that's what's going

(29:42):
to happen when it comes to Mariah May. Like Mariah
and May were now seeing this heel run for hers,
and I wonder if like this is just gonna be
so epic for her that we don't see a baby
face Mariah for a while, Like almost the reverse, probably not.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
For a while, I understood the booking of this, However,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I don't think this was the right call.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I think it was the right call. Actually, I think
I think it was the only call.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I mean, to finish the story. I understand that, but
I just felt that.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I don't think that's actually the opposite.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Champ already interesting.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Okay, So with that, I get what you're saying. I
do think Tony's been a fan of her and the
work she was doing in stardom for a while, so
I do kind of think that when he agreed to
put her with Tony, this was the plan. However, the
main reason why I think this was the call is
not to finish the story. I think if Tony Storm

(30:41):
would have beat her already, the story would have been finished.
And then it's kind of like great, really like this,
we get to continue this story. You have to make
Mariah may the monster who actually did not just betray
her mentor but take her down, take everything she loves. Dear.
I'm wondering if Luther may eventually join Mariah and we

(31:02):
get yet another betrayal in this saga, But either way,
the story continues because of this decision with the story
they were telling and everything for us to take Mariah
seriously and for it to work. She she had to
do this, She had to conquer Tony. And I love
the fact that storytelling was involved in it in that

(31:22):
Tony had the shot. She could have hit her with
the shoes. She's done it before, We've seen her do it.
Mariah May made you bleed your own blood. You've talked
all this shit, but here it is and you are
still vulnerable, you still have love for her, and she
took advantage of it. So the story continues. And that's
what I love because we've talked about it. This is

(31:44):
one of, if not the best story going in this
company going and wrestling right.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
I was reading that they approached this storyline even before
Mariah May was signed, like right before she was signed.
They were like, Okay, this is the storyline that we
have for you. We're doing an all about Eve storyline.
And she was like yes, one hundred percent, and her
and Tony were like yes, which I think is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
If we're continuing the all about.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Eve's storyline, somebody, I wonder if that's gonna play out.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
So no, this was one hundred percent like this was
people were like fan fiction booking this, yeah, or they
even like, once they heard Mariah May is talking to
aw might come over, They're like, oh my God, need
her and timeless Tony need that. Yeah, and then I
don't know if Timelessen and Mariah just got together. I'm like, Okay,

(32:32):
you know what, this makes sense, Let's do it. Let's
do it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
As a person who loves old movies and loves the
movie all about Eve, like this is perfect. So I
wonder if someone's gonna come in and foil Mariah May's plan.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah. I wonder if Tony takes some time off so
she can kind of have a proper return and then
and to reignite this, or if this just doesn't even
hit pause and we just keep going. I guess I'm sorry,
I don't know you. I was just gonna say. My
guess is she does take a little time off. Yeah,
I made chance to talk about it, chance to beat

(33:04):
some other people, and then get fucking scared, like fucking horrified.
When Tony returned, She's like, oh no, yeah, and then
we get to a fiery Tony.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, especially that Tony has been working her ass off
this entire time, and like at one point when when
aw was being, for lack of a better term, a dud,
like Tony Storm was the one like carrying this and
keeping people interested because of the storyline. I do have
to say during this match, Tony is such an incredible storyteller,
Like she's a storyteller like no other like her looking

(33:36):
totally heartbroken, like she has to have this match, and
like she doesn't want to do this because Tony, because
Maria May destroyed her her like going over to Maria
May's mom like all this was just so epic, Like
like Tony's facial expressions were so perfect during this thing
that like that's when you were like, Okay, Mariah is
gonna win, Like obviously they're gonna do this because Tony's

(33:57):
not gonna be strong enough to do it, and not
strong fits but mentally strong enough.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
To do this. One thing that was interesting to me
about this and about tonight and what they did do
and what they hadn't done really leading up to like
pretty much right before Mariah finally turned on Tony, we
had been seeing the Mariah and Tony and Mina Shirakawa

(34:23):
like that trio kind of being a thing, even with
Tony and Mina kind of arguing and fighting over Mariah
May on Twitter. Like Mina Shirakawa I think had kind
of like hinted at loyalty towards Mariah, but also hinted
towards Oh no, I don't know what to do. She
hasn't really been a part of this. I was kind
of thinking maybe Mina Shirakawa would be with Mariah on

(34:48):
the on like this side, you know, firmly with her.
That hasn't really been a thing. But they did show
her in the audience.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
And scared it torn.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It didn't seem like, yeah, she was overly happy to
see Mariah win. Right, technically she should be. There should
be no real alliance to Tony. Eventually she was willing
to make peace with Tony because of Mariah. But your
friend is no friends with her, you would probably fall
with her. Also, I wonder if they're teasing her joining her,

(35:18):
or if they're teasing her opposing her for the championship.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, I wonder, I don't Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
I was also trying to see if Mariah's outfit was
like an homage to all about Eve when she accepts
an Award spoiler.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
I was trying to.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
See that maybe kind of, but her outfit seemed more
homage to Mina because like the matching with the fur
on top and stuff, so I think like it was
it was paying respect to her, which I was kind
of a little disappointed.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I was like, come on, you couldn't have done like
the outphit a little bit. Yeah, storytelling, people's storytelling.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I loved the speaking to her.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
I loved Luthor, Oh yeah, slipping Mariah off, like like
it looked like he had been shot. It looked like
he was about to die, Like he was just walking
back and the last thing he was gonna do was
say go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Either.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, he was fantastic. I didn't appreciate. I was this
has nothing to do with the match, but.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Like them like bird eye view over the crowd with
all those empty seats, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Are people going to the snack stand? Or like is
this as empty as it looks?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Like?

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Why are you? Why are you choosing that shot? Because
it literally like they zoomed in and I was like,
what are we doing here? People?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
They definitely have to be more careful with that because
they picked like the worst possible way to show fifty
thousand people, that's a big that's a big house. Like
the numbers are accurate. We're talking over fifty five. I
think that's a big house. Year's ways to make us
watch from home and look and be like, oh man,
they fucking filled that shit, right, like when they being

(36:49):
aware of the thirty thousand or however many seats that
they didn't fill. Yes, it filed last year.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Because when I saw that, I was like, oh no,
I was like, don't do this, guys, come on, people.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Already talk about you because of these seats issues.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I was like, come on, speaking of talking shit because
of issues, we got Hook, who defeated Chris Jericho for
the FTW Championship. This makes Hook a three time FTW champion.
Had he lost, he would have never been able to
challenge for the title again or as long as Jericho
was champion. But he did win. This was, for anyone

(37:25):
keeping score at home, the shortest match of the night.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Good.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, it could have been.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
It could have been longer if we didn't get that
stupid ass concert that was off key and sounded terrible
and I wanted to gouge my freaking ears out.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah no, that was that was. We didn't need that.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Why why I literally text you make it stop?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
I remember that. Yeah, I'm like, you.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Sound off key, you sound awful, Like what is what's
happening here? Why is this a thing? Also like this match, like.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I mean, listen the match. The match was what it was.
But Hook's another example of like I don't think aw
knows how to change chapters. I don't know if they
know how to switch gears. They got hooked so over,
so fast, so weird.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
It's he's such a weird hook ha pun intended, you
know what I mean, Like, he's such a weird thing
for people to get behind, Like I'm not.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I mean, it was natural, it was organic. The truth
is the guy does have a lot of talent. He
has continued to get better, So it's not like this
loyalty from the fans is misplaced. He you know, but
he got over and aew went ahead and went with
it and pushed him the right way, and it was great. However,
we're like three years, if not more later, and he

(38:46):
has won the He's only won one championship, I think, right,
it's the same or was he ever he might have
been attack champion and I'm blanking. But either way, I
feel like the in terms of singles hook, the only
thing we've really gotten is FTGW championship success. It's honestly
like it's a championship, but it's also kind of like,
you know, the TAZ title. And the main highlight of

(39:08):
this match was of course Taz getting involved and finally
getting probably waiting the final Taz mission delivered from Taz
that we'll ever see. We were waiting for it. I
think Tas has gone on record saying he has no
desire to do it. You're never gonna see him. Nah, brother,
I'm done retirement Jones. But oh man, that was so fun.

(39:31):
What a pop? Mom, what a mark?

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Oh my god? I popped so hard. Did you see
Brian Keith hurt himself on the barbire?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh nice?

Speaker 4 (39:37):
He slammed his hand on the table and you see
him pull his hand up because he slammed it on
the bar boyer.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
I was like, oh oh, I was like, oh no,
big Bill.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Big Bill and Brian Keith seem to really enjoy doing
what they're doing right now. I don't know if it's
because maybe Brian Keith in particular, you know, when he signed,
they didn't really do much. He was kind of just
a baby face that they had a ring of honor.
Right now, this is the first time they're really giving
him something to do. Let him think his teeth in
With Big Bill, I think him and Chris Jericho were

(40:09):
already friends from their time in WW. Big Bill's another
one where there's been such big expectations for him, and like, listen,
I'm glad he's on TV, and I'm glad he's able
to get shot as a muscle, But shouldn't he be
past that? It kind of just feels like Chris Jericho
has a new Jake Hager, and Jake Hager being the

(40:30):
muscle for Jericho never really helped him. He never got
a moment where he turned on Jericho and we got
to see him finally, you know, unleash the Beast. There
was never any evolution. He did the same thing his
entire fucking aw run. It was be Jericho's guy. So
it's hard not to be worried with stuff like this.
I still do think there's value to Chris Jericho. I

(40:54):
just don't know if they know how to utilize it anymore.
He may be better off taking a bit of a break,
and that's one thing people like don't talk about the
best times Chris Jericho had, Like yeah, his initial attitude
of ever run was awesome, but it was really when
he left and then decided to come back and then
all right, I'll give you guys two years, then I

(41:15):
gotta go do Fozzy again. He'd leave, came back fresh new,
the fans missed him again. We may need that again.
The fact that he's been so just eager I guess
to do everything at the same time, because he's been
touring with Fozzy, He's been making new music with Fazzy.
Everything he took off from WB to do with Fozzi,
he's still pretty much doing while with aw even more,

(41:38):
they got their own fucking cruise. So Jericho doesn't want
to slow down anymore. And I think that is what's
worth seeing with the fans who really don't even like
it's not even heal heat anymore, man, And I think
he's doing good. He'll work for the record, Like I'm
not watching Jericho and wanting him to go away all
the time, like I do think the Mack in the

(42:00):
ha and like the overly corny shit, like it is
a decent heel gimmick. I liked seeing him recreate himself,
but the fans just aren't digging it. So you have,
like you have to make it audible.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
It's just not Yeah, we're not behind it anymore, so
you gotta go like it's not working.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
There's not working.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
And yeah, there's certainly an argument to be made about
like the list of people that have been truly positively
affected by Chris Jericho in AW is not nearly as
long as it should be, Like, yeah, Sammy Garvara should
be farther. Jake Hager, like I said, he's pretty much
gone from AW now. Nothing of substance ever happened with him.

(42:42):
That shouldn't have been the case. Anna Jaye joined with Jericho,
thought that was gonna be a big turning point for her.
She's still trying to kind of reignite stuff for her.
So who else, Uh, Daddy Magic, I mean, don't get
me wrong, Daddy Magic and and Cool Hand, and I
love everything they're doing. Daddy Magic is doing a lot
more to commentary and backstage stuff. But like once again,

(43:03):
I just those to me are top talents, and I
think Jericho has never been surrounded by bad talent anytime.
He gets on a stable, they're always the best of
the best. So when they don't go to the stratosphere
because of it, when it doesn't ever actually lead to
that elevation, it seems like a big letdown and a
big waste of time.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And it needs to. If it's he's
gonna elevate people and really like have it be something,
then they you know, they need to.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
And that's I think it's one slight downfall when when
it comes to this feud. I feel like if Hook
was going to really benefit off of beating Chris Jericho,
and I know this sounds strange, is probably it doesn't
make picture perfect sense, but I think it would have
had to be in a non championship feud the like

(43:56):
it would have because, don't get me wrong, this feud
was personal. They very personal, big stakes of course resulting
in Hook's fathers has to have to get involved. So
so don't get me wrong, this never really felt like
just in fact, the FDW championship kind of made it
more personal than anything. But the fact is Hook just
got a big win, probably the biggest win in his
AW career, over a former world champion, future Hall of

(44:18):
Famer no matter which company puts it in. He's a
future Hall of Famer. But it's for the FTW Championship.
And sadly, that championship. When you rank all the titles
that you see regularly on AW programming, it's it is
at the bottom of the list. It's close to it,
you know, it's not a championship that you're looking at, like, oh,
Hook's the FTW champion, maybe he'll be a double champion

(44:41):
and face the world champion again, Like you're not really
high alert for that, you know what I mean. It's
just standard mid car championship.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Right, And I think the problem and one of them,
one of them, right, And because people aren't behind Chris Jericho,
they don't really care about this match. Therefore doesn't help
with Hook at all because it's like people don't care.
A lot of people probably got up and went to
the bathroom during this match, and that shouldn't be the

(45:08):
case with Hook because you want to watch Hook, and
it's like, but you just don't want to watch christ Jericho,
and I think that can hurt hurt him a lot.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
But like I'm just not sure, Like I don't know
if Hook is really benefiting, Like I don't you know
what I mean? Like, I don't know if this win's
gonna do what it should for him, because at the
end of the day, if he's done with Jericho, now
that's fine. Is the next person he fused with for
the FCW title gonna be bigger than Jericho?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Or mean?

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Moving upwards in trajectory? Are you know he just beat
a world champion. The next person he fused with, the
next person he beats should theoretically be bigger, so we
can begin him climbing the ladder. But if you just
give him somebody else, you know, there isn't nearly as
accomplished as establishes Jericho, then it doesn't feel like he's

(45:57):
moving forward. You gave him a good moment, you know,
and once again, aw builds up to moments, right.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I just yeah, I just I don't want to see
Chris Jericho on my screen anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Oh man, Yeah, I said this a.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
While ago when he was like throwing plants at.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Dean Ambrose John Moxley.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
No, No, he was Dean Ambrose when he was throwing
plants at him.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Oh, you were done with him in WWE.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh, yes, you're a hater, You're I'm a Jerko hater.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I'm a hater of the Young Bucks still being champions.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm I'm hoping it's the fan
in me. Like no, because it's not even that I'm hating,
Like they're great heels and I get it, the elite
with gold it makes good TV. But I feel like
ae w never And you know what, I'd be very
surprised if they didn't decide to make the acclaim because

(46:52):
this reminds me exactly of when the Acclaim was super
over and they were facing Keith Lee and UH and
Swerve and AW clearly was not expecting how over the
acclaim was gonna be. They clearly were not expecting how
much the crowd came and paid their money to see
the Acclaimed win and they didn't win. But in that
fucking press conference, you remember Tony Khan in next to

(47:15):
Swerve and Keith. They clearly had no idea, but he
decides to declare, there's gonna be a rematch. We've got
our special you know show coming up in two weeks
or three weeks or whenever it is, They're gonna face
each other again. Because even though they lost clean, I
think they deserve another title match, and you remember seeing
Swerve and Keith like, oh you so you want us
to lose? So he decided because of the crowd, you

(47:38):
know what, I made the wrong call. Let's let's go
ahead and do it right. This seems like a similar
situation where yes, AW and in the wrestlers themselves. I
think FTR and Bucks are kind of obsessed with wrestling
each other as much as possible. I don't know what
the Guinness Book of World Records for most matches two
tag teams can have with each other is, but I

(47:59):
think they're trying to go for it. But clearly the
crowd in London came for the acclaim tonight.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Yeah, I mean the pop too. Go take it away
from them.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I'm not taking anything away from them, but you like
you felt it the second FDR's entrance stopped and that
crowd just exploded with I thought, I swear on my life, Danielle,
I thought AW had started playing the fucking White stripes
the way that they were just singing it, like I
thought they were playing it and the crowd started singing it.

(48:32):
But no, the crowd just went crazy.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
The crowd was for it.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, like oh, scissor Me Daddy like that went on
so long before the entrance even kicked in. That was
a part of the entrance because the fans were it popped,
you know, the scissors that they had made and the
signs like the Acclaimed really are just as over they
had been for the past few years. And I think
I hope Tony realized that he probably did make a

(48:59):
book a stake, and the best thing for you to
do and the best thing to actually move the acclaim forward,
which they haven't done in the past few years even
with their Trios championships, is have them beat the Young
Bucks for the titles and have them successfully depended against FTR,
because it doesn't matter if the Young Bucks or NFDR
O champs are not. Aw's made it very clear that

(49:22):
they think these are the two best tag teams in
the world. Young Books n FDR have literally feuded for
that title, not the tag team championships, the title of
best tag tam in the world, whilst another team was
holding the tag team titles. Like that's how this is gone.
So the narrative is clear FTR and Young Books are

(49:44):
the best of the best. So I think it's very
imperative that if they actually want what's happening right now
again to truly move the Acclaimed forward, you know, up
that ladder, they have to beat these guys. It should
have happened tonight. But I hope they do the right
thing and let it happen in two on two straight

(50:05):
up matches.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Yeah, I uh yeah, I think they need to win.
I think they should have the title, agreed. I don't
think the Bucks should have it. I do like the
Bucks gear. I like their Sergeant Pepper gear. I thought
that was fantastic. But other than that, I'm tired of
these guys, Like they don't look like young Bucks anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
They look like old stags. And I shouldn't be saying
that because they're my age, but but a bunch, but
they start elevating people.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
You don't constantly need the belts, and I don't really
need to be the the thing anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
And here's the thing. The fact of the matter is,
it may happen down the line, but I don't think
like within the next twelve months they're going to split
up the acclaim knock on Wood. Don't want to see
it happen, But I don't think like when the next
two the matter, they're gonna split up a claim in
a pursuit of singles pushes for these guys, I don't
think that's in the cards, at least not for the

(50:56):
immediate future, for like the next year. So once again,
I just think it's imperative because I remember when they
won the Tag Tam titles and they said something in
the scrum which I loved. They said that we are
the people's choice. We are the world's most popular tag team.
And the truth is like, that's that's true. Yeah, Like

(51:17):
the crowd is really like every fucking crowd is really
into the acclaimed and it's the daddy it's the daddy
ass effect, Like Billy Gunn really put a new energy
into these eyes. And I don't even know if it
hasn't end in sight right now, it doesn't need one.
But you have to commit to them, and they can't

(51:39):
just be I think there's a chance that they might
have actually been the tag champs while Bucks NFDR had
that few that I talked about.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Any kind of like yeah, but then with this, then
what are you doing? Why are the grizzled young.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Vets coming out to take Like why are they coming
out then if you're not gonna put it on the acclaim,
so they claim is gonna have a rematch on what
the Grizzled Young Vets are gonna cost them.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I mean, once again, last time it was Tony making
the decision in the scrum, so maybe he's making it
right now. Maybe he's also grizzled Young Vets. I think
that was just a fun little appearance pop the crowd
establish these guys. I don't see them being legit like
like the Young Bucks. Will you know they'll get past them?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Do you call it the scrum?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I mean that's the way they call it, so I know.
In fact, if anything, I could see the Grizzled Young
Vests being ideal first challengers. I mean, not ideal for me,
I think they should be any FTR, but I could
see them being ideal for challengers for the tacon champions
after the Acclaim beat Young Bucks for it. Yeah, I
could see that.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yeah maybe.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Uh. Let's talk about the fact that we already have
discussed the fact that the Trios Championships change hands. The
patriarchy no longer has it. But Christian Cage as he does,
never too long to stay away from a big win.
Christian Cage our Casino Gauntlet match winner, securing a future

(53:02):
aw World Championship match. I love this decision, m h.
I also do love it when somebody loses the title,
somebody who like has a lot of momentum, is a
big player, loses the title but still ends the night
with like a brand new fresh start, almost right, And
and I love the way he won it, where everyone

(53:22):
like once again thought that kill Switch was going to
finally see the light, finally turn on, Christian finally win
something for himself. Nope, nope, nope, nope.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I'm surprised you're talking about that and not all the
fun people we had in this match.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I mean, I know there's souch fun.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
There's so much, so much. First and foremost, we have
to talk about Okada's thighs because I love them so much.
I love Okada.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Okada just has an aura about him. There's just something
like he's so fantastic. I freaking love Okada. Okada should
have everything he has to be a worldchamp eventually, because
you just need to do it, because what else can
he do except dazzle me with his thighs.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
But he's just so freaking amazing. I love him. And
then like now nile Nigel McGuinness coming out, like.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Okay, that that was big only because like, let's be honest,
and we're obviously you're you're leading up to the next deal.
But we knew he was coming, We knew that was happening.
It was cool to see crowd pop. Fine, Nigel McGuinness.
I didn't have a fucking clue.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Don't know if I wasn't listening to the streets loud enough.
I don't know if. Yeah, but I didn't have a
fucking clue. And then also, since we already talked about
the main event, the fact that and like this is
just more looking back and kind of thing. Oh man,
that would have been dope, but I love that. Had
Nigel hold it off in won, he would have been

(54:51):
number one contender to Brian Danielson's championship, which yeah, all
types are crazy.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah, that would have been all types.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Ria may must have kissed him revitalized his career with
that kiss on the head.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
That was what it was.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
That was what it was. She kissed him and it.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Was not cleared for action until that kiss.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
She kissed him, and he immediately went to the back
guy checked out by the doctor.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I'm good, tell me, I'm good, like you have an erection,
but you are clearly to compete, right right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
That was that was That was something else I popped. Really,
I popped harder for that than who we're about to
talk about now. I popped harder for the beginnis that
I did for Ricochet.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Right, as I said, because because of the surprise factor,
you didn't know, you didn't know if it would ever happen,
and here it is. So yeah, that was that was great.
Uh but then, of course, yes, Ricochet, there he is here. Here,
he is here, he is I have not been quiet
about my skepticism when it comes to this. I think

(55:54):
he would have been wiser to reinvent himself independently using
social media to to make promos and videos for himself.
Do some do a run on the indies for a
few months, probably get in some championships because they would
want him as their world champion. We see it happen
all the time. Ginger's already a champion right now, you know.
Matt Cardona, of course we saw him do it time

(56:15):
and time again. So I do, in fact that Mustafa
Lei Doff Ziggler. They're all champions, so you know, yeah,
I do think he would have had the opportunity to
show the world what him as the world champion, what
him as a main eventor what him with an open
mic would look like before trusting that AW two showcase

(56:37):
him that way, because I don't think he's given anyone
a chance to see him in a different light. He's
he's coming in. He's gonna give us the bangers we
know he can give us. I just don't think AW
views him any more than w he does, honestly, right,
I get it.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I was reading a tweet that someone was like, I'm
worried about it because in WWE, he was like one
of the twenty percent that can do what he can
do in the ring, and now he's with people that
can seventy percent that can do what he does. Like, yeah,
I mean you have to bring Will off Spray into
the picture when you talk about Ricochet, because we talk
about that match.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
There's everybody's always talked about the match too.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Man, I always think you have to talk about it.
Will Ospray is one of them. The other one is
the bastard Pac. Yeah, because Pac and Ricochet and then
Osprey has put himself in that conversation. But pac and
Ricochet in particular were innovators for high flyers, like you know,
like one hundred percent. And so now not only as
you said, are the are the things that they're able

(57:34):
to do, not as what do they call Ricochet, uh
super or the super or the I'm sorry what it
was like a super or he does super war. He's
a super ordinary man that does SuperOrdinary things. They was like, oh, yeah,
you remember what I'm talk about. There was like a
weird saying that because the fact that was how they

(57:56):
tried to book him at one point, because the things
he was doing in WWE, most people can't do those things.
Most people won't even try him. But now all the
people that learn from Ricochet, that learned from Poc, these
are the will Ospreys. You know how many how many
high flyers do they have that are just waiting to
be given the opportunity to be put on TV and said,

(58:18):
hey go crazy? So you know, and then and as
I said, people are now being blown away by will
Osprey becoming a full time player in the fact that
will Ospray is a talker, like I don't think people
knew he could talk like this. I don't know if
he always could talk like this or if this is
like a new improvement. But will Ospray can go. He

(58:41):
can he can go full tilt because he can now
sell you into the room with the microphone just as
much as he can with the ring. I'm not saying
Ricochet can't. I think he can, but he's very unproven
in that area. And if anyone does talk negative about Ricochet,
that's where they go to. If anyone wants to defend
wwb's decision not to push him all the way to

(59:01):
the top, that's what they're gonna say. And if anyone
wants to hate on him in aw and say, oh,
he's never going to be a big star, because the
first thing out of their mouth is going to be
he can't talk right.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
And the reason I brought up will Offspray is because
everybody talks about that match with him and him and Ricochet,
for Prince Puma, for like ever, right, that was the
standard of either you hate that acrobatic, gymnastic type of
wrestling or that shit is fucking fire to you.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
To me, that was fire. That match was one of
the best matches of that year, and now that they're together,
people are going to be salvating for that, and hopefully
aw will be able to give Brigochet time to talk
and be able to establish himself as just not a
good wrestler in the ring, but on the mic as well.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
The only thing that kind of does, you know, give
me give me a sense of calm as I as
I patiently wait to see what they do with him
and what the next step is and what his first
you know, one on one match is going to be
against what his first program is going to be, how
they're doing him, how long it takes until we see
him on the Ring of honor. Like I'm curious about

(01:00:03):
all these factors. The one thing that gives me a
bit of like, okay, maybe this will be all right
is the fact that Tony Khan is a fan of
Lucha Underground, like like he he was a fan of that,
so we love so My main worry, as I said,
the fact that Ricoshet didn't give himself the chance and
the opportunity to showcase what he has a world team

(01:00:24):
it would look like truth is if Tony Khan remembers
him as Prince Puma and saw that and wants that
then we may be okay. I personally think it would
have been dope if he did come back as Prince Puma. However,
I like that maybe they're saving that, Like maybe Prince
Puma is still like in his closet. You know, he
can always bust out the mask. But I almost feel

(01:00:46):
like if they took us there, it would follow a
less than stellar initial run. So it's one of those
things where you know, like I'm just I just like
I said.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I I don't know what Tony Khan is gonna do
with Ricochet that is gonna make people be like, yes,
he's finally being used correctly, Like is it Like for example,
I'm critical of the way they use Claudio and he's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
A champion right now at Trio Champions. I'm critical of
the way they use Pac and I know he has,
you know, certain issues where he's had to leave in
this and that, But same time, like just the way
they've been presented, the way Tony was so quick to
put them in stables, to the point where now you
do kind of get them mostly with tag team matches,
mostly with Group Fuse, mostly not talking as much, mostly
with more with Claudio, less with Pac, but still so

(01:01:32):
and then and then you've got you know, as you mentioned,
you got Will Ospray, who people compare him to Ricochet
all the time. You want to see you know, people
are salivating to see these guys fight again. That's not
gonna do Ricochet any favors unless this is leading to
an epic heel turn for Ricochet to just go fucking crazy,
because right now Will Ospray is the fucking guy. Yeah,

(01:01:54):
like he's the next man up. You know, there's a
good chance. We talked about earlier. We kind of didn't
really speculate too much, but we talked about who could
who Brian Danson would lose to. If I had to
make an early pick. Will Ospray certainly one of them.
He's easy to got to be smart money. And so

(01:02:15):
it just one of the odds that Tony Khan is
gonna be able to push Ricochet to the same extent,
to the same way that will Osprey's getting that push
right now. You know, how is he gonna set himself apart?
What are they gonna do? Will Spray? Ricochet had extra
swag then I'll give you that. You know, threw a
little dance move out of there into his end gold chain. Yeah, like, like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
I almost try, he has to try. I mean, we
just have to wait and see. I think we shouldn't
count our chickens before they hatch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
And uh, I'm definitely hoping for the best. I really
do believe he's one of the best wrestlers in the world.
World Championship main event materials should be the main event
of any show he's on. I truly believe that. I
don't know if that's how Tony Khan feels. As we
did speak about Will Ospray, He's Tony Kahan's guy, He's
next up, and he is the new ae W what

(01:03:06):
they it's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
The what the the International champion champion, not the American Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
So yeah, will Osprey wins the International Championship over in
international waters uh and and this is yeah, like and
this this match was a banger.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
He can't say anything about this one. So I was
making fun of Will Mjf's gear and then I realized
that he's it's Lex Luthor's gear and I was like, oh, well,
now I have to be quiet because at first I
was like, why does this look like the Puerto Rican
flag on his kneecaps? And then I was like, oh,
this is uh, this is homage to Les Luger, and

(01:03:46):
I was like, okay, then I'll be quiet now, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
You confuse the fuck out of me, and I don't know.
Maybe I don't know if you no, no, no, just now,
like just as you were talking, you confuse me, and
I don't know if you've said it wrong or if
I just heard it wrong. You heard Lex Luthor, I
heard Lex Luthor, and then I'm immediately searching Twitter to
see if Lex Luthor ever.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Had like Lex Luger Luger, Okay, yes, Luger.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Before we get into the wrestling of this show, there
are things like this match, I have to call out
certain things m JF anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Can flip you piece of ship like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
That made me pop, and commentary saying if if I
could say one thing is he's consistently a piece of garbage.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I thought that was fucking priceless.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I was like, I love that they just like talk
shit about m JF all the time, just doesn't care.
I think it's so great. Uh this, Yeah, I love
this match. I thought it was really good. I love
that m j F N will have such different wrestling styles,
but when they come together. It's like lamb man tuna fish,
would you prefer spaghetti and meatball?

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Like it's just just works. And it was such a
good feud.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
And like MJF always talking shit during his matches is
really fantastic. Daniel Garcia interfering was pretty fantastic. Will Offspray
doing the doing the Tiger Driver, Yo, yeah, nuts with
the Tiger Driver.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
I mean they they listen the long term, the build
up to that, week after week after week, the Kyle
Fletcher pleading with him, why can't you just do it?
He deserves it? Like the story, it's we kind of
got a similar story, just not too much, but the
parallels in terms of Tony Storm and Mariah where Tony
Storm obviously could held back and couldn't beat her with

(01:05:40):
the shoe, couldn't actually do that to her, and Will
Osprey had to make the same decision. Obviously, no love
lost with Will and MJF. So yeah, fuck it, fuck
that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Also, yes, MJF sold that Tiger Driver. Like I thought
his head.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
Popped off, So I was f is scary good for
his size, like he's a he's super muscular and you
would think like he couldn't be.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
That agile with taking a bump like that and selling
it really well and making it look scary.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
But he does. It's impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Like when I say he's scary good, I'm not even
just talking about like, you know, watching him and whatever.
Like the guy's just a fucking very smart person. He's
a student of the game. So the guy a learned
one of the biggest rules in wrestling, a rule that
Steve Austin learned and Kevin Owens learned, and they talk

(01:06:33):
about it all the time. The fact that you have
to talk. That's the way they don't stop talking to
get the main events. Don't stop talking talk talk talk.
So MJF talked his way into everybody's heart, says the
man they all love to hate. Everyone was declaring him
like the next man up, future main event or future champion,
future of this future that because of his mic work.
But he did not accept that he did and the

(01:06:55):
comparisons were quick. Oh MJF is just another miss YadA,
YadA YadA. But MJF went ahead, got himself instellar shape,
never stopped improving, and he's got all these things he's
able to do that he keeps under wraps. I don't
remember I don't know how many times we've seen him
hit a moon salt, you know, and go for the flip.
That was a picture perfect moon. So by the way,
I know he didn't hit it. Yeah, but it was good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah, that he was just showing that he could flip.
It wasn't about hitting it. It was about showing that
he could do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
He was showing that anyone can do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Anyone can do it. That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
He's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Bro's so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
We've loved him forever, Like even when we first saw
him in New Orleans, like at what was it Progress
or I was one of those shows.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
I was just like, man, this guy has it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Yeah, like this dismatch delivered. The story was stellar, like
the bill to this was perfect. And I mean, I
know we can We're not going to give everyone parades
for doing the job of doing the job, but I
do think it's it. MGF did a lot for the
championship in a short amount of time, like so too.

(01:08:04):
Yeah to the point where now like I do think
it means a little bit more on will Osprey's shoulders
than it did previously and that it's taking nothing away.
But let's be honest. They didn't give Roderick Strong the
same shine when he was champion as they did, so
you know, it's just it's just a different it's a
different thing. But with MJF rebranding it the American Championship,

(01:08:27):
rebranding him the American hero like and making it personal,
taking out Kyle Flecker going in on will Osprey about
his family, about his wife.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Did you see those interviews when he was interviewing with
like British interviewers and he was like, no, you're wrong,
and he would just like start telling and he's like in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
America, and I was like, yo, you are so nasty.
I freaking love it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
I'm also like looking at his age, he's twenty eight,
Like I feel like we've been watching it forever and
this man's not even thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Yeah, Like it's insane, wild.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
And it's it's one of those things where like the
truth is and I'm repeating myself, of course, but Will
Osbray is the next man up. He's the guy that
as putting on that pedestal and MJF has now become
a part of that rise. It was mjf's time, it's
still mjf's time. He's not going anywhere. This is still
his show, but he's he's able to go out there,

(01:09:22):
put a great story together, put a great match together,
drop the championship that he feel like. I feel like
he just won the fucking thing, right, lop it to
the next man up to help the company. This match
did a lot for will Astray. Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
I think he did just want Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
No, he literally just won it. Didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
We watch him when it live? I feel like we.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Did were we there were we there?

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Were we there for it? I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I love that we like never know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
No, I know what we were there for live. We
were there when Britt Baker made a return live. We
were there for that one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
We were there for Britty Her. We were not there
for MJF.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
I knew you you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I think we're there for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I literally think.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I literally think we're there for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
You love. Say I was there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
I was there. I was there because I used to
always be there. I used to always be there. Now
I'm the old fogie.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
He does nothing. I sit home all day with my dog.
Uh yeah, we watched Brit Bagger return. Should I go
to negative first before we start doing great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
You love going to negative first, let's do it all right,
let's do it one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
I never want to see Kumil on my screen ever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
You like her?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
She killed a bat on Instagram live, like I told you,
that's why I don't like her. She literally, she literally.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Caught a bat in her house, a baby bat with
a broom, and then she was like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Gonna spray it with this. And then the next thing
was everyone don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Come at me in the comments because she's like, because
I need to get this thing out of my house
and I have to kill it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
I'm not just gonna let it out because it will
come back in And she literally killed it on Instagram
like on an Instagram story.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
So I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
So this is why I don't. Yes, this is this
is my hatred towards her. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I thought the ending of this match was weird.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
It was very anti climactic, like they all they both
were going so hard at each other, and then like
the finish was just very slow, like oh blah blah,
and then it was like pin and I was like,
oh wait, we're done now, Like it wasn't there was
like a big moment of it of the finish like
the finish just happened and I was like, oh, okay,
here's the finish. I thought it was a little it

(01:11:31):
was very anticlimactic and a little meh, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
There was good moment. There were cool moments in the match,
but overall the match was men.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Okay, I'll give you that. I mean, I do think
Sasha and Britt have good chemistry.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
So I know you know, I'm not a b Baker
in ring fan. I know you know that forever though.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
I think her she takes her moments of like facial
expressions and like the thing of throwing Camille the belt
and then like doing the Eddie guerrero and then like
her waving as she had to be exited from the
match and stuff like that, I think, and I think
she's great at selling.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
So I think they work well because I think Mercedes
is so.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Phenomenal in the ring, like she just just knows the
ring inside and out and it's really phenomenal to watch.
But I, like you said, I think they have really
good chemistry together and I think it worked well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
The match wasn't awful, it was just mad to me
with cool movies.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
She definitely needed a better performance. She in particular, did
Britt Baker, Yeah, only because similar to MJF, she talked
her way up the ladder, she talked her way into
the position. And now as they are getting this is
probably the most stacked the women's divisions ever been. They

(01:12:51):
are getting more talent, they are getting new talents. Mercedes
coming in that does raise the fucking level. Like Merced,
love to hate on her, but Mercedes is gold Man.
Mercedes is very good. She does, on most occasions bring
out the best in the person she's Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Yes, Mercedes just doesn't a talker for me, I don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
I don't think she's very good on the mic, But
that doesn't take away from her in the ring because
I love watching Mercedes in the ring.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I think she has such great ring psychology. I think
she she's.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Another one who sells. You just watch her facial expressions.
You know exactly what's going on, you know what she's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Her Her moves never looked.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Like forced, if that makes sense, Like it never looks
like she has to move this way in order for
it to look good. It just she falls into place
perfectly with her wrestling moves. And that's one thing I
absolutely love about her. Also, I will say Britt Baker,
her gear is always on fucking fire. I think Britt
Baker has the best female gear ever. Like always, I
always love her gear.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Her gear is always.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Fun, her gear, her gear is fine. I'm sorry her
gear is fired. Yeah, but yeah, it's so it's so wild.
There were definitely some clunky spots that I got to
give credit to. Uh let me see, I want to
shout his tweet out his Twitter Museum of Terror tweeted,
Britt Baker is a heel in the UK because she's

(01:14:16):
a dentist. Has the tweet of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
That's a wonder Please retweet that. I hope you did,
because that's freaking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
What a good tweet, What an excellent tweet.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Excellent tweet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Yeah, it was definitely it wasn't like the best match,
but there were the moments like Brit really I like
the term you always say you maximize your minutes, and
she really does. She you know, the waving, the sneakiness,
the selling, like everything about that she does well. I
just I think her inring relax for me and I

(01:14:52):
and usually with Mercedes, like you said, Mercedes can elevate
the person. She's wrestling with and I feel like that
didn't happen here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Right, I do think it's far from over, like I,
oh yeah, absolute again.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Oh yeah, we're definitely gonna get it again.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Yeah. So so there's always there's always a room for improvement,
and we'll get some. But these two are the top
of the divisions, So, like, which is weird?

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Which is weird because this is the TNT title, right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I mean that was the CBS TBS. Sorry, that's sorry,
but no, that is also wild, especially going back to
what you said earlier where you're surprised at how quickly
Mariah May has meant to become champion. Mariah May is
one of the younger women in the division. She's certainly
one of the less tenured women with the company. So

(01:15:42):
to see her holding the quote unquote, you know, the
main women's championship, the Women's World Championship, while Mercedes Monette
is holding two championships, one being the TBS Championship, one
could argue that her being the double champ kind of
allows her to still carry the room the way she
does and not you know, feel like the secondary champion

(01:16:04):
or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Right, It's how it's also like how you carry it
and how you are like when ms was interconill champion,
when Gunther was Interconinile champion, they are like, this is
the championship, I'm the best, this is the you know.
So that's okay, and I don't mind that.

Speaker 7 (01:16:20):
It is just weird how you know, she's she has
the main women's title, but it doesn't take away anything
from Mercedes and I don't think it will take anything
away from Britain once Brick gets it from her.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
If Brick gets it from her, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
I can see that one thing. I want to go
back to the main event for just real trick. I
did enjoy the fact and this I like that. Seemingly
in wrestling, the rematched class is kind of being dropped
for the most part. Sometimes you get it, but it's
not always a thing. And I like that because the
truth is, let's be real, Swervestreplan's not going to get

(01:16:55):
that title back from Brian Anderson this week. It's not happening.
So I don't him lose again, you know. So with
this match, I like the fact that Hangman got involved. Yes,
Reservices says nah bro, And it's so funny. I thought
Hangman was going to cost Brian Danielson the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Yeah, oh did you?

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
I did? I did because I thought he was going
to say, I'm the one that takes that title from you,
nobody else. That's my title and your ass is mine.
Like that's what I thought we were getting from Hangman.
But the fact that no, Hangman doesn't care about the title.
Hangman's not coming for the title. He's coming for Swerve.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Hates everything about Swerve. He hates his face, he hates
his walk, he hates the way he talks, he hates
it all.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
He hates the way he eats his lunch exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
It's so funny you say that, because I really like
that type of feud where it's not just oh you
took my title, Oh you did this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
It's like, no, I just hate you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Want to beat your ass as much as possible and
make you as miserable as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
So I don't even care that I'm not getting the title.
I just don't want you to have the title because
I want you to be miserable.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
I love that, And it didn't it didn't taint the
victory where it looks like it couldn't have done it
on his own but it does give it does give
Swerve a slight safety net where it's just kind of like, listen,
it wasn't you know you did have have that outside
interappeerance also allows Swerve to go right into a new program,
doesn't have to lose any momentum. It doesn't allow the

(01:18:28):
fans that chose to cheer Danielson over him to to
now have to be like, oh do we not like
him anymore? No, you still love him. This is still
his house, and now you get to cheer him on
as he takes Hangman to school.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Yeah, I really Yeah. Overall, I really enjoyed this paper view.
I thought it was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
It was a good one. It was a good one,
good one, real, real quick thing. That will close on
the only thing about the pre show I want to
talk about. Sure, Jamie Hater's back.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Oh, Jamie Hayter is back. I thought you were gonna
say Stokely Hathaway's Michael Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Okay, Stokely has to way hit in the Spinebuster. Holy shit.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
I was like, we're not talking about Stokely, We're talking
about talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
I just and his Michael Jackson attire, which I find is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
A show stealer. I love Snokelely so much. The best
thing was on Twitter, like, and I only saw it
because it was on his tweet that he was making
fun of Eddie Kingston, which is just a fantastic tweet.
But he then like somebody tweeted like are you ready
for is she on Sunday? And he said, yep, I'm

(01:19:34):
gonna give him a burning hammer on the apron, which
which is like, I you know, it's hilarious because and Snokely,
but him actually breaking out the fucking spinebuster. Yeah, you
know whoever worked with him on that and like you know,
helped get that spinebuster to a plus quality for the show.

(01:19:54):
Do you know they were laughing each with each other
like backstage about how that pop, how we got the pop,
had the reaction that happened, how everyone was tweeting about
it the second it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yeah, definitely so fun. But yeah, Jamie Hater's back, say
came out with her whole entire family. Uh. She was
just like, hey, I'm not even on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
I'm your queen of Iglinn. You will respect me. And
then Jamie Hater comes out and the whole place Uproard like,
what a pop pete. I'm happy to see her back too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
No, And I was just thinking about her like the
other day where I was just like I had forgotten
if she had gotten hurt. I forgot when she got hurt,
Like I just.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Knew I forgot she got too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
But she was like another one that was just so over.
Like the rise of Jamie Hayter was really a special
thing because everyone kind of like it was happening so
much that you assumed that they were gonna turn her
face and have her turn on Britt Baker just because
the reactions were were getting so good, and instead of
doing that, they always kept her heel. They always played

(01:20:57):
with the crowd but rode the wave to the point
where both Britt and her got to be baby faces together.
And then we saw Britt supporting Jamie Hayter as champion.
So I wouldn't mind seeing these two back together, especially
considering the fact that Jamie was BRIT's muscle. Mercedes has muscle.

(01:21:18):
Maybe Britt needs muscle again. But has Jamie Hayter grown
to the point where she's nobody's muscle anymore. That's very possible.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Yeah, she doesn't have anybody muscle she could be my
muscle because I have none.

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