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January 30, 2025 • 77 mins
The Road to the Royal Rumble is over and the WWE's most exciting match is finally here! Who will end the weekend with their tickets punched to the Main Event of WrestleMania?! What an extraordinary performance from JD McDonagh! Did we see WWE's next big babyface born right before our eyes?? While in the past Royal Rumble surprises came in the form of legends from the past, they now come in the form of talents from NXTNA. Who will the biggest surprises be? Could one of them actually win?! All this and more on a brand new episode of Heel Marks!

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ladies and gentlemen, the show is the Bolas fault to
start in nine eight, seven, six, five, four, three two one.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Not just smart, they hear, They're not just smart, They're
not just star They're not just smart.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
They're here. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, fans and friends,
we are back once again. I'm the custodian of Charisma.
I am the Optimologist Optism. She is the Sultan of
sarcasm and the Sorceress of sass. I am the ghost.
She is the coat. I am Brady Danielle. Together we
are the best best friends in all the land. Together

(01:04):
we are the heal Marks. Saturday Night main event is
in the books, and there is nothing, nothing but an
episode of SmackDown standing in our way between the Royal Rumble.
It is here, or should I say there, because it
is in Indianapolis this year, Danielle and I are stuck
here with nothing but the memories that we had last

(01:25):
year at the Roll Rumbo over in Florida, with warm weather.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Because we don't get warm wether. We're not going to
Indiana for cold weather.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
We want warm weather.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
The only place I've ever traveled to for cold weather
was Denver and This was before weed was legal here,
so there was extra incentives for me to check Denver out.
But I can't imagine wanting to travel someplace cold while
New York is also miserably cold. If I'm traveling, it's
gotta be good weather.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I mean, I guess it depends. Like we went to
the Packers game and it was for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well that also yeah, I mean, that's also kind of different.
That's not necessarily like I guess, yeah, I mean, like
a football game, you kind of it's kind of an exception.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I guess you have to be specifically doing something. You
can't just be like, hey, how's Indianapolis this time of year?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
From Wayne's world, I'm in Delaware.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Hey hey, I say that's my friend all the time.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
That's our running joke.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Anytime I drive through Delaware, I always like message him
and I'm like, I'm in Delaware.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
But the Royal Rumble is easily like one of, if
not the funnest pay per view.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
It is the fun it's the best, Like, it's so
much fun. Even people that like don't watch wrestling all
year round tune in to watch a Rumble because it's
fun to have like like watch numbers and the countdown
and it's just like mayhem, that's fun, Like those are
the that's the best part of the Rumble and best
part of the pay per view season and this season
leading to WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
And also since we do now live in a world
where there are two full thirty person Rumble matches happening,
it kind of compliments better the new uple age style
of only giving us four to five matches because it
gives them the hour to play with that are Rumble
typically does get and need because we're not just getting

(03:11):
us the one winner, you know, like that's of course
the coup de gras of it all, but we're there's
so many stories that get told, they get advanced, that
get started begun. Occasionally you get a finished story, not
really thriller rumble, but like you get so many things happening.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
The one that sticks out to me a lot is
when Drew McIntyre eliminated Broclaus, Like that's a big one
that started store.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
And like that's good. Even little moments like that inside.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
The Royal Rumble, or or how about a little moment
we all got super excited for hasn't edged well unfortunately,
but Keith Lee knocking brock Lesner on his ass.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Oh yeah, that was a big one too.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Like there are such little moments in the Royal Rumble
that can lead to something great because it's like, hey,
you did this to me, or like even in the
Royal Rumble when it it's like tag partners going against
each other and it's like.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, they're gonna team up for a while. But if
it comes down to the two of them.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Like what happens exactly? And honestly, because you brought that up,
I will take a segue and run with it, especially
because last night's NXT is fresh in my mind. They are,
of course not now, while I do hope and we'll
get to it when we talk about the Royal Rumble.
I would like to see some NXT represition to NXT

(04:26):
representation in the Rumble howe and well, of course we'll
get to, you know, talk about who we think could
make the jump up there, whether it be a high
how are you I'm back to NXT the next day,
or whether it be high how are you I'm on
the main roster now WrestleMania spot ready we can talk
about that, but for now, it was announced as NXT

(04:47):
prepares for Vengeance Day, which will be happening a little
later in the month. Obafemi is currently slated to defend
his championship is NXT Championship in a triple threat match
against a Town down Under. Both Austin Theory and Race
and Waller have been kind of not really wrestling with
people as much, but we keep seeing them. They pop
up on Raw, they pop up on SmackDown, and now

(05:08):
they're popping up on NXT. They're kind of everyone unnoticed.
I don't necessarily mind it, only because with four to
five match pay per views, it does get chaotic in
terms of who gets six solid pushes because you you
know these the TV time is all building up to that.
I'll be honest, it's crazy that last year Atoun down

(05:30):
Under one one of the tag team championships in a
ladder match that was pide of the show, and this year,
I don't know that they get on WrestleMania right, And
that's why I'm almost like okay with them doing this
thing where they kind of just pop up aimless. You know,
they're still talking shit, they're still acting like they're the
cock of the walk. So they do save face in

(05:51):
that heel atmosphere and NXT they've somehow talked their way
into a championship match. So this NXT, I don't want
to call it an XT run, this NXT appearance from
them does give them a chance to shine during a
time of the year that otherwise they wouldn't if we're right,
and they're not necessarily penciled in for anything for Mania, right, right,
and this.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Is totally fine because you know, Austin Theory was down
in a XT for a while, like they were down there,
and this is a good showcase for them and to
make Obafemi look as dominant as he already is, and
then to give him some good win.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
The only negative I would say about this pairing is
that normally, normally, when you do have a tag team
in a triple threat match against the champion, it's only
a matter of time before they can't, you know, get along,
and it's only a matter of time before that is
kind of what begins a split. Now. A while ago,

(06:43):
it seemed like they were setting the stage not just
for an eight ten under split, but actually for an
Austin Theory facefrunt I have not seen any clues that
that's gonna happen anytime soon anymore. But this type of
match usually is like the first step or just you know,
another step back into that direction. However, my guess is
we still got time. My guess is that Trick Williams

(07:05):
because he was seen talking to Ava and trying to
you know, talking about what did these guys do to
earn themselves this match? So I could see it becoming
a fatal for a way throwing Trick Willie in there,
which which a obviously changes the prediction I gave you
a while ago where I thought Trick Williams would actually
be getting called up around Roy Rumble if they're you know,
they're he obviously like I thought he was going to

(07:27):
disappear from NXT after losing the title, we weren't. I
see it again, that obviously hasn't been done. He had
a nice little view with Wes Lee which I think
is actually still going due to how that match ended,
and now I think he still wants his NXC championship back,
So we're probably looking at a maybe raw after Mania
call up, probably a little later. I do think he's
got to get called up twenty twenty five though, Yeah,
I think.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
He'll definitely get called up twenty twenty five. If they
do the.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
The draft, maybe he'll get called up that way.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
If not, just posble well usually usually Raw and SmackDown
after manias are good, Like, oh, I'm just saying if
they don't and then later, yeah, we wait until September
for that for the draft, we're supposed to get excited.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, mine was more.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
If they don't draft them, I mean, if they he
doesn't get I mean, even.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
If that was the case, like I I don't I
can't get excited for NXT drafts anymore because like the
first the first couple, yeah, you have plans for them,
but it's like then, like we saw Die Jack get drafted,
nothing happened, Baron Corben gets drafted, nothing happened. All these
guys got let go. So I and it's not this
isn't the first time it's happened. This is a repeat

(08:33):
occurrence of them drafting people. I mean, Odyssey Jones was
famously drafted the SmackDown like four years ago and we
never saw him on TV until this past year. So
you know, there's just a lot of reasons for me
to not get excited for NXT draft picks. However, an
NXT call up, whether it be at the Rumble, whether
it be the night after the week after Mania, those

(08:54):
still have a decent track record of success. I mean recently,
you know you got bron Breakers in there, right, Yeah,
But earlier I guess, Yeah, Carmelo was got a little
he was he was already up there. They didn't really
do it rafter man, he kind of was just on
SmackDown while he was in an xty.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, it was just like, oh here you are, there
we go. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I think that they got to fix the draft. I
think the draft isn't fun anymore. Like they just do
names and nobody comes out, and.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
It hasn't been fun in a while. Yeah, it's not fun.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
They don't They don't make it fun. Like we love
drafts as sports fans, like.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
This is yeah, come on. Speaking of Mellow, Mellow made
something fun. Most people just say, hey, I'm gonna be
in the Royal Rumble, I'm gonna win, kind of like
a public service announcement. But Mellow ended Raw. I mean
it was actually after Raw went off the air, but
he closed the show by attacking from behind the w
w E World WA champion Cody Rhodes, and as Cody

(09:48):
Rhodes is laying at his feet, he lets the world know, Yes,
I'm in the Royal Rumble. Yes I'm gonna win the
Royal Rumble. And Cody, you don't have to wait to
hear who I'm coming for, because it's gonna be you.
I like that this was Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I love that too, unlike Seth rolling. Yeah, No, I
I really like this a lot.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I love No. I'm gonna say one thing like this
isn't taking away from from Carmelo. Cody's such a punk
in all this.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
He keeps getting like beat up, attacked like all this stuff,
like he's such.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
A chump, Like for my w W champion, he's a chump.
And well it's heavy is the head that wears the crown? Yeah,
Like I know there's always somebody who's.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Gonna come after guntherro and hit him in the head
belind Side and nobody.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, but that's because Gunther only speaks when spoken to.
It's when somebody has the balls to call him out. Yeah,
but that's when he'll come out. Gun Through doesn't just
run his mouth about people. If nobody mentions gun Through's name,
he will sit backstage and not say a word. Yeah
that's great.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
But like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
With with Cody, I just feel like he's gotten such
a short end of the stick on this title rein.
I don't know if they did this purposely where they
were like, oh, yeah, let's give him the championship and
then punk him out the entire time.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean it's interesting, it's your your choice of
words is fun because we did get an interesting Cody
Roads and Seampunk segment. Before this segment, we got Drew
McIntyre versus Seth and that is where Sammy Zain gets involved.
I'm sorry not yeah, Drew McIntyre versus Sammy Zay, I apologize.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Of course, Drew McIntyre continues to win because Sammy Zain
has not beaten Drew once. One of these days he'll
get that big way one of these days. But yeah,
Cody Rhodes gets involved as he does, and Sammy Zain
accidentally hits Cody Roads with a Hallulah kick, much like
we saw him do last week. Seth rollins. Kevin Owens
of course is in the ring for this, and I

(11:40):
love the shot of just Kevin and Sammy. Sam and
next to each other, Like Kevin kind of just strolls
next to Sammy looking at his handyword, gives him a
quick nod like thanks, bro, and then just leaves, and
Sammy even like looks, wait, no, bro, like I didn't
mean yeah right.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
The two of them have such excellent storytelling, Like it's
really remarkable how it is, because it's just these little
pieces that they leave us, little sprinkles and little stuff
that it's like, is Kevin going to turn Sammy's hard?
He's like, hey, you're already doing heel shit, why not
come to the dark side?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And Sammy's a weird case, not even from like a
cafave on screen, But if we're talking about booking, it's
kind of hard to argue the point that Sammy's ain
has lost momentum ever since beating Gunther for the championship
at WrestleMania like that Icy Rain. I think majority of
US wrestling fans really did kind of want Gable to

(12:34):
get that title in there, you know, like, and it's
just but that was like right after that was pretty
short like into his reign, so it was kind of like,
we shouldn't be feeling like this, but we do. Because
They try to convince this that him winning the Icy
Championship was a huge accomplishment for him because it was
at WrestleMania. But it's like, nah, bro, we've we've rode
this ride with Sammy's ain so long. He's ready for

(12:55):
World Championship and that's the when we're gonna excited for it.
You can't convince me the Icy champion was the big
one just because Gunther was the big whale at the time.
That's not necessarily how it works. And point proven is
that Gunther is the champ right now and Sammy Zay
is is not and nowhere near it really. At the
same time, Sammy Zay is kind of kind of feuding with,

(13:16):
like or involved in feuds with everyone. He's got a
little thing going with Seth, gott a load thing going
with Drue, got a load thing going with Cody, got
a load thing going with seam Punk. In the back
where he kind of telegraphs what I'm scared of, where
he points out, well, listen to see m Punk. And
I hated this, not just because he's telegraphed me, but
because it makes no sense for him to say it.
But he's like, well, you know what, Seampunk guess what
I am. I'm a WrestleMania main event, which you are not.

(13:38):
And it's kind of like, Okay, you're only saying that
because they're obviously they wanted to tell that story. Seem
Punk's gonna finally main event Whoop de doo. But Sammy
saying you're bragged and listen, obviously, behind the scenes, of
course you you'd be proud of yourself for main eventing
WrestleMania's accomplishment. But if we're talking, if we're being real,
as a wrestler, you're not gonna brag to a former

(13:58):
multi time world champion that he's never made him at
WrestleMania when you have never won a world championship and
you so it's like a plot device.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
They kind of just like, oh, like they just put.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
It into Yeah, they wanted someone to rub seam Punk's
face in it, and they chose Sammy, which was not
a wise one. That's a weird one. It's like, yeah,
you could you could have had they could have had
Drew do it. But I guess they're keeping Punk and
Drew away from each other for now, which I do
understand could have had said it, but maybe they're keeping
them away. Also could have Cody do it.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yeah, they could have Cody do it. I don't Yeah,
I didn't understand the significance of having But did Sammy
technically main event?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, well they made him at Night one? Sammy ko that.
Now you can't roll your eyes. We live in a
two nights Lemania. It's not I'm just.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Saying I didn't mean two night That's not how I
meant it at all. I said I guess that because
it was a.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Tag champion, but not right, right, But I didn't mean
all these things combined. And then also we ask ourselves, now,
why would Sammy zamby the one? And it brings me
to my point where like there's a chance we do
see a Sammy's Ain, he'll turn of all this like
you like, Sammy Zain has become an interesting figure because
the bloodline, Yeah they reunited and yeah they still got merched,

(15:09):
But jay Uso is killing it. Big Jim is doing
his thing romans kind of having Paul Hayman speak for
him and she shows up, He shows up when he
wants to. So it's very much a bloodline's independently doing
their own thing. So that does so Sammy Zain easily
could join Kevin Owens in all of this. At the
same time, he could finally, you know, declare where he stands,

(15:31):
and we get another Sammy's Zane and Kevin Owens match
against each other at WrestleMania, or we get a Sammy's
Ain and Kevin Owens taxi match against who knows, like,
so many ways it can go. Kevin Owens finding his
trajectory to Mainia is also very difficult because there's so
many different ways you can go, especially after this Sunday.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
I'm sorry Saturday, to be honest, If they don't start
like plopping out storylines or like who's gonna I don't
feel like besides it being in Vegas, this doesn't seem
like a fun wrestleman.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, we're so far away from it.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
We're not that far away from it. It's in April.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
We're far away from it in the sense that there's
no card like there, we're not going to see a card.
They gotta eliminate even I know.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I understand that, But like at this time last year,
we knew what was happening.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
No, we didn't. We didn't have a clue. Are you
kidding me?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
We were we were like ninety nine percent sure that
Cody was going to finish his store.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, we didn't know what the fuck was going on
because Cody Roads immediately handed it over to Dwayne and
there was a whole month, right, but what's a big
crazy chaotic? If anything, that was the fun part watching
them ship their pants on fucking TV every week because
their plan wasn't gonna work.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
But the thing of it was that regardless of not
the storyline or what matches were going to be set up,
the Rock was still going to be a part of it,
and that was gonna sell.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
And Also, I didn't think Cody Roads, like yeah, when
he won the Royal Rumble, sure, but if we're talking
about this time, let's stalk. I know, the week before
the Rumble, I didn't think Cody was gonna do it
because I thought Roman was holding it to fucking Toppe
Hogan's rain, So you know mean I thought I I
think I thought Sam Punk was more likely because they
would give him the main event, but he wouldn't win.
It would be like, ah, we.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Thought, yeah, we thought it was gonna be seampunk.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
But them them towards towards the end of Royal rumble
like towards it, we were like, okay, and now they're
going to finish his story.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
But what I'm saying is I just.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
At least the rock was in the picture at that moment,
so that's why it was gonna sell no matter what.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Where I still say, I still say, there's plenty of
time for them to juice that once they get into
But who would you look on telling these stories and
we see what's going on? There's what are you talking about?
There's what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Who?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
What are you talking about? I hate that question. That's
such a bad question. I will allow you the opportunity
to rephrase your question.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
I don't know how to rephrase it.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I'm like, there's no match that if there was a
setup of a match that I would be really excited to.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
See I just said yet it's because we haven't seen
the card get formulated yet. But I'm talking about I
know the talent being pushed right now, so that I'm
going to be excited about whatever match ron Stroman I'm sorry,
not bron Stroman bron Breaker gets. I'm gonna be excited
about whatever match Jacob Batu gets. Pentus seems like he's
ready for in WrestleMania moment. I'll be excited for that.

(18:03):
You've got some decent stuff going in the tag team division.
I think Street Profits have something bubbling. Maybe we finally
get that heel turn or something from them, Like there's
easy ways to get the excited trick Williams to get
called up, get a trick, mellow feud. I think there's
you know, like, I think there's a chance they finally
pay off Chad Gable and Otis at WrestleMania. So in

(18:24):
my like, you don't want to have this conversation with
me because in my mind, I know.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
With all you you also make up all of this
ship that like is super fantasy booking.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Like that's like me being like, like.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Gable is not a fantasy booking. They keep they keep
giving us backstage segments. I have to give them the
benefit of doubt and assume there's a reason to it.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
I mean, but yeah, that's exciting. That's semi.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
All of a sudden every what that already fizzled out though, Well, no,
this is the chance for them to do it right.
They're starting to get us back into it. They're starting
to build it back up. Did you hear the pop
Otis got just when they panned to them at raw
like it's starting back up because the fans do love
Otis and they do air about what Gable says every
time they announce I still say there's a lot of
things to get excited every time.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
They also hold on every time they announce a match
at Russeller WrestleMania leading after Royal Rumble on, I want
you to ask me every time we have a show,
ask me if I'm excited about it.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I'm not gonna do that. That's just a way to
ruin my day. I'm not going to ask you if
you're excited about anything because you're negative, Nelly. I'm just
saying negative.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Costly a negative Ninny. The only way you'd be positive
if I talk about Ethan Page. So let's do that.
Ethan Page is one that minds you. I've got my
fingers crossed the most. If we're talking about NXT representation
in the Royal Rumble, Ethan Page is a must. He's
got it be there, I hope. So I mean, if
I have to name three names of NXT that I
would want in there and not, let's not include NXT

(19:55):
Champion just to make it fun the trick, the trick
Willie Ethan Page a female, No, I'm thinking of, but
it would probably be Javan Evans because he because in
the Royal Rumble. Honestly, he might be able to pick
up WHEREKOFE left.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, I was just gonna say that.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I was like, he could be the new KOFE. I'm
trying to think from NXT who men. I mean, Wesley
would be a nice one. I'd be okay with him.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Oh, Wesley, That's a good one. And I feel like
I'm not gonna lie. I kind of think it would
be funny. But it also the time has passed for
Sean Spears to come in at ten again.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, the time is past. But that's very funny.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
That would be fun though funny.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah, that would be funny.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
But I feel like Ethan Page is the type of
person that, like, I think he's a good person to
have from NXT go up there, because he could come
on NXT the next on that Tuesday and just be
like listen, He's like, I forced myself in that rumble
because I want to get that shot about, you know,
Like he's very like, right, you know, I'm the man
I need to be in this, so I just put
myself in it.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Because that's what I right. Quick backtrack to this NXT
match that happened. I just need to say this because
it just doesn't get set enough. We've said it enough,
but it doesn't get set enough. Cedric Alexander does not
have bad.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Match never, never has a bad match. Never.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
He doesn't. And I know, obviously, when we're talking about
somebody like Ethan Paige, you know this is obviously a
good recipe for a good match. But Cedric Alexander does
not have bad matches. It doesn't matter who you put
him with, it doesn't matter what you're doing or not
doing with him. He is constantly one of your best workers.
And I'm just praying he gets rewarded for it. Like

(21:33):
it's gotta happen at some point.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
It's a championship. I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
That'd be fun him.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Give him some title.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
This man does not have bad matches. Even when we
used to watch him on Indy shows, he didn't.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Have bad matches. Yes, this man has never had a
bad match. Like I feel like Triple Ah should be
forced every three to four months to rewatch Cedric's match
with Well. I was gonna say such a backs with
aj styles, but fuck force him to watch the match
he had and the Cruiserweight Classic that could and then
watch the part where he comes out himself raises Cedric's hands.

(22:02):
Watched the clip where they're chanting at you to please
sign Cedric. You need to feel that feeling against because
it's not enough to sign him anymore. Now it's please
use this man, Please push this man, Cedric, please recognize.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
And Johnny Gargano like, come on, like any man, I've
never you and I have a bad habit of not
going to pre shows during WrestleMania, and we specifically went
to the pre show because we wanted to see Cedric,
Alexander and mustaf Ali.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Like we made they pushed that ship.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Yeah, we made sure that we went in for that.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
We were like, no, yeah, that match killed too.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah, Cedric doesn't have it ever, No, but.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, and I do enjoy like once again, I especially
on the road to WrestleMania at this time of the
year where for a lot of people they kind of
have to wait for resumata to come and go to
hope that they're twenty twenty five turns around to begin
their road to next Year's WrestleMania. You know, like the
time is passed for some of these guys. A lot
of these guys actually to get on the card, So

(23:00):
NXT is a good shot for them to at least
stay on or get on someone's radar or afterwards. And
so I love what they're doing with Cedric, I love
what they're doing with Javon him returning him and Ethan
Page have an excellent few going on. I assume we're
gonna get a blowoff at Vengeance Day, but you know what,
both of them being in the Royal Rumble and continuing
that feud on the wwbpl E advancing a Vengeance Day

(23:24):
story in the Royal Rumble, that would be very smart
and very fun. And you know what's funny. As much
as I want to see Ethan Page as a Royal
Rumble contestant, if Javon Owens is in the Royal Rumble,
he's cooking and Ethan Page just shows up and costs him,
I would be okay with that. All the other way around,
I mean, that would just be so helish, But yeah,

(23:45):
I'd be okay with That's Heliss, You're not even in
the match. You stay in the back you weren't invited.
Uh listen, I don't wanna. I don't want to go
any longer without saying this one. We gotta say eight
mcdonoughh get well soon the yeah, and listen, we're gonna
try something here. And I'm not playing this right lower

(24:10):
that here, Okay, no sound sorry listeners, but our viewers
can go ahead and see that clip of him that
moon salt and just oh my god, that was scary.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, yeah, his body here it is.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
We lock it one more time. Oh god, my head.
And and the fact that it's not and see this
is why. And everyone's a lot of people as much
as they are giving him the credit for finishing the match.
And here's the thing I want to say, like broken ribs,
punctured lung, that injury happened very early into the match.
There were so much left for them to do, for
him to do, and he hit every fucking spot. I

(24:45):
think I saw like two more moon salts out of
him after that, including like the big one that I
thought was gonna win the match, right before Dom's frog splash,
Like Jad McDonough showed out just nothing but Gus this
Monday at Raw, right, I was used.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
To making fun of JD McDonough right that I'm like, yeah,
I have to be nice, but man, I mean he
powered through, like he unfortunately this sounds awful, but he
is the weakest link in the Judgment Day.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Like you know what I mean, Like he's not really
like he's really not. He's he's been booked that way,
Like the way they booked him into the Judgment Day
booked him. It was very scrappy dewish, I'll give you that.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Right, But now like he's really like he puts his
he puts his body on the line, and he really
like comes through and he does everything that's expected of him.
He exceeds expectations and like unfortunately, like something like this, like.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
He's never not impressed me in the ring and and
this really got him on the radar of a lot
of people that were sleeping on him that did kind
of have him, you know, because to your credit, to
your point, he was booked as a bit of the
jobber in Judgment Day. If anyone was gonna take a pinfall,
it was gonna be him. So I suppose that's where
you could say week link if we're talking k the

(25:56):
week link in JD Judgment day. But nobody's calling him
a weakling right now, like and honestly, they've got the credit,
they've got the opportunity if they want to go babyface
with him when he does return, he said in a
few months. I don't know if that means they're gonna
have a WrestleMania spot waiting for him. I feel like
if they did, it wouldn't necessarily be as a baby face.
He'd come back, he'd help Finn and they'd set up

(26:17):
a Judgment Day match. But if they hold him, if
they hold him until after WrestleMania, then I think they
we almost get like like a light a very light
version of the type of build up for his return
that we got for Triple HS back in the day.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Oh yeah, I could see that, and that would be
exciting because then people are finally getting more behind him
for his return card.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean because it would it would it would
highlight the toughness that it took for him to continue.
And the truth is the way he's booked with his
appearance with his body and the way Pat McCabe and
Michael Cole love making fun of his head. He doesn't
get presented as the gutsy you know all hard type
of wrestler, but you can't deny it now. And credit
not just the JD and also shout out to Antonio

(27:01):
Tobo in the chat room saying Jady reminds him of
an early seth rollins. I can see it especially for
Wrestling Society ex. Tyler Black seth rollins like on but
credits to other people. Credit to Michael Cole for and
it's difficult to understand differentiate when he's just making a
call and when he's actually making a call. But the

(27:23):
way he had to reiterate and did he was like, please,
we need medical help. Somebody's got to check on him. Seriously,
send somebody out. And it's like a added to the moment.
It added to the call, but also it let everybody
in the back, no, yeah, get your ass out here.
I've got the best seat in the house. And I
just saw this man's body bounce. So the ref was
on point because because the match it's a tag team match,

(27:46):
mind you, so the match is continuing Dominic. Credit to
him as well. Dominic has to pick off, you know.
And and now there's there's stuff where it's supposed to
be another guy involved, but he's got to go look
at the two opponents and be like, all right, guys,
it's just me. Let's work. The ref's got a referee,
what they're doing, all while trying to communicate with JD,
with the medical staff figuring stuff out. It was just like,

(28:08):
these are the things I pay attention to when these
real life moments happened. And finally credit to the crowd
because that moment I love this movie. When I've watched
the video a million times already, when JD crawls up
to the canvas and stands up there as the viewer,
we're seeing readily quick we can sign and see Dom
and the refel. But Dom goes Through'm like, yo, you're good,
You're good. Okay, pushes his hand away because it almost

(28:30):
like JD was going for a tag. He's like, nah,
hang out here for a bit, you know, gett get
your stuff together, and then he Dominic took care of
business and then eventually tagged him in. But as Jade
gets to his feet and we realize okay, he's he's
okay enough, he will be finishing, the crowd gaves him
a very nice standing ovation like and he has not
gotten cheered, you know, since since he got called up.

(28:51):
You know, yeah, big big boo guy, JD, so the switch,
big boo guy, big boo guy. But yeah, like Jad
killed it. Extraordinary performance, dominic, extraordinary performance. And everyone online
says credit to JD. He did it for us, put
his body online for us, and and yes he did,

(29:11):
and thank you for that. But I also feel like
we got to acknowledge he I think he did it
for the war Raiders as well. Oh this is a
huge for them.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
This was a huge. Man, it was a really good
match too, Like I, yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
So we were watching it together, you and I, and
I was just like, man, there's I love that these
big guys are so agile and they're so you could
tell they're so fun to work with because they're so easy,
like and that's an insulting way. It's just easy to
like be able to wrestle and bounce off of them
and do all this stuff.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Like they're so talented.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
And I feel like because their name has been so
dumb throughout the years that like they kind of get
put on the.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Back shelf because of it.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
They had, Yeah, they had a rough go when getting
ushered into the main roster. But also and this is
what I love about this. The war Raiders at a
crucial time right because they just got called back up.
They immediately get the tag team titles. So everything they
do every match, they have a shavy titled defense. It
means something. It's all about you know. They think this run,
this push could be taken away at any moment's notice.

(30:06):
You never know, they've seen it happen. So they have
to show up and show out. And in one of
their first title defenses, they're given two guys that are
significantly smaller than them, but they're given a lot of
time for the match, a lot of give and take.
You know, we saw Dominic and JD to be at
a lot of offense to these two huge guys that
in real life we would never think that. You know,

(30:28):
they're not at the same weight class. There's no reason
they should even be touching each other. So the fact
that the Warritors had to give their bodies and it
had to be sharing with the other side, and so
I think that partially went into JD's mindset where he's like, no, man,
like it can't go down like this. We have to
do right by this match. I have to do it
for them I've bar tweeted out. I believe Eric did also,

(30:48):
you know, talking about how much they respect JD and
how incredible his performance was. I gotta imagine there's a,
if not friendship backstage, at least enough respect where he's like, nah,
I gotta do right by them, and so nothing but
love and respect for JD. Really hope he gets well soon.
Hopefully I do kind of, I'll be honest, I kind
of predict especially since it seemed like they were writing

(31:10):
a split of the Judgment Day Finn and Live starting
to have it kind of seemed like Finn Carlito and
JD we're gonna go one way, Dom Live and Roquell
we're gonna go another. So I don't know if Judgment
Day still is a thing when JD gets back, but
that might be the best thing for him because then
you just switch him from a different show. You you
move him so he's on a different show than Finn Dallaries,

(31:32):
and you hype him up as the fucking gutsy baby
face that he is because these fans are salivating to
cheer for this man now. They want to give him
a standing up.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, so that's really something to look forward to.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
One hundred percent. Another thing, another thing some people can
look forward to, some people can hate on. WWE has
celebrities popping out left and right listeners you cannot see,
but Danielle just rolled her eyes so much you might
actually have heard it.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
But well, I rolled my eyes because I know you're
coming at it, because you you are very vocal about
who's that Oh that guy, Well he's a wrestling fan.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well know, well, no, because I told you, because I
predicted this ship in more No, No, no, because I said,
I don't mind when celebrities come out to RAW because
there are a lot of them that like wrestling, and
so I don't mind you obviously swearing that flag like
an Osh Jackson. Of course he's a wile as a
Killer Mike. If ww's in their town, they're gonna be there.

(32:25):
But I was like, but now I'm scared that Netflix
is just gonna start shipping guys out to promote their
show by sitting in front row in a show that
they don't care about. And the first thing they did
was they showed Who's Who's the movie he was in? Yeah,
that dude is not a wrestling fan, and he was
the first person they showed and what's the little ticker tape?
What is it? It's Oh, he will be in the

(32:45):
second season of this show coming to Netflix in March
door And then every rapper they showed credit to them
because they're all fucking wrestling fans. Litl yachty cool come
on to the show. Quevo, he's a wrestling fan. They
all had t shirts that were theirs, they had belts.
Is no a guy didn't have ship.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Don't say that.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
He's very I also enjoy when a celebrity gets involved,
or when a wrestler gets a celebrity involved, such as
Kevin Owens calling out of all people, Matthew mccon so, Danielle,
fans want to know, how much do you want to
see Matthew McConaughey face Kevin Owens on a scale of one.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
To ten, Yeah, negative twelve. I listen.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I didn't hate it. I really did it fun.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I don't want to watch him wrestle.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
I want Kevin Owens to yell at people because Kevin
Owens is the best, but I don't want to see
him wrestle.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, I don't want to know. You're right.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
I don't want a wrestling moment.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Speaking of seeing someone wrestle. I'm gonna try this one
out and let's see. Let's see if I can do
it right with no sound. Watch this, Daniel, because this
clip hasn't been I haven't seen this cip on it.
All right, fine, I'll put a little sound on, but
it's not necessary because it's a wrestling clip. Check this out. Now,
watch this. He can't see. He can't see, and he

(34:00):
still nails, but he couldn't see. Like the shirt completely
covers his face. Watch that dominant shirt covers Eric's face
and then he lifts him up with that shirt's alway boom.
Watched it, Dominic see credited dom off of Eric Rowan's

(34:23):
face more time. Now, watch when dom gets pulled up
for the power and watch what he does to Eric's face.
Takes that shirt right off. Boom right there.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
I will say, I'm very I was waiting for a
Matthew McConaughey clip, and I got very confused that you
showed me that clip.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Well, no, it was just funny. I can show you
the MAE clip, but it was just funny because you
said something about fun and I just remembered that clip
and I was just kind of like, oh God, and
I'm like okay, and I.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Was gonna be like, I think you forgot to show.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Me because I can't tell you how many times I've
watched that clip since the match. I can't get over
it yet. This is the first time with you, is
the first time I actually caught Dom taking the shirt
off of Eric. Yo. Dom is scary good.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah, I'm so proud.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
It makes me like proud because like, you were so
nervous when he first came out, because you're like, oh,
Ray Masteriro's kid nepotism, this, that and this, and he's
really excelled at being.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Don't even act like you weren't on that train.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
No, no, no, really, calm down, woman, What really had me nervous?
I was going to say before Rually, No, we never
we never saw training videos like we never, you know
what I'm saying, like, we never. I never heard Dominic
Mastiro for a year has been training here and there.

(35:38):
It was kind of just Dominic Masteriro has decided he
wants to be a wrestler. Oh and by the way,
he's gonna be on WRAW with Ray with his dad tomorrow.
Oh and by the way, you've been watching him kind
of just team with Ray here and there. Actually not
even I think he was his match with Seth was
that his first match? I think it might have been.
I think I don't remember, right, So honestly, everything we

(36:00):
heard and saw and read gave me zero reason to
believe that this was actually going to work out. And
if it did, it did certainly didn't think it was
gonna be this fact. Yeah, I mean five years is
not a long time. If that was in fact his
first match, right, it.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Was a street fight against Yeah, he got his ass cane.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
And SummerSlam. I forgot. I forgot. It was a huge
pay per view like that, Like how crazy? And then
if you hear Ray talk about the stories where Ray's like,
I mean I Toldal he moves up to him, I'm
not gonna tell him not to do it. I think
I might have said that I wouldn't do it if
I was him, And then he was like, fuck it,
I'm gonna go for it. And it's like that match
goes bad. Dominic doesn't get the TV time to develop

(36:43):
and learn like the sponge he is. It's like SpongeBob,
how did I know you were gonna do that?

Speaker 5 (36:50):
I don't like SpongeBob at all.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Well, speaking of people, you don't like it all. So
Gunther and Seth Rollins I know you love, but it
was Logan Paul that interrupted them. No, nobody likes Slogan Paul,
but I mean, I did hear you say that you
wouldn't mind Seth Rollins versus gun Through at WrestleMania. It's funny.

(37:14):
I told you I thought seam Punk was gonna be
challenging Gunther, but because like he has been calling out Gunther,
but all of a sudden he stopped calling on gun
Through and then we got that Cody and Punk segment
and they kind of made me think maybe they do
go gun Through in Seth Rollins. I definitely don't think
they're going gun through Logan Paul. That could think they
fucking could You never know they Logano.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Is gonna get destroyed. He's gonna be He's gonna be
like because.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I always thought they would turn gun Through Babyface during
his title reign, but they haven't done it yet, and
they hinted towards it, and like having a Logan Paul
get in his face is kind of in that direction.
But now it kind of just seems that it's not
gonna happen. Guntherro's gonna remain a heel, drop his title
as a heel, and then I just feel like they
missed a big opportunity to make him an over babyface,

(37:59):
and instead he'll heel coming off of a kind of,
you know, less than exciting title reign or. I just
don't think he'll be in the best situation.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Or will be my favorite match of all time a
triple threat match with Logan.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Honestly, honestly, maybe they do that.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
You never know, Seth pins pins Logan, Seth becomes champ
and and go on toch.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I mean, the only thing really stopping it from happening
is just the idea that we're assuming, and people have
mentioned it that whoever wouldchever Show, Raw or SmackDown does
not have their champion get challenged by the Royal Rumble winner,
that the next champion is just gonna their number of
conteor is gonna be determined by an elimination chamber match,
So that would kind of not allow for a triple

(38:45):
threat situation. But then again, who knows, Maybe Logan Paul
skips elimination chamber, shows up and just says by the way.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
So with this rule, with Royal Rumble in an elimination chamber,
and let's say Seth Rolland's wins Royal Rumble and he
challenges Gunther, and then Logan Paul wins an elimination changer chamber,
is he allowed to challenge Gunther?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Also?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well no, because that's what I'm saying, like, you're not allowed.
Well no, because elimination chamber isn't like Rumbo. Elimination chamber
would be specifically to challenge the champion that doesn't have
a dance partner. For media, it would be more of, Okay,
Gunther's getting challenged, So Cody, we need to find you
a competitor. Elimination chamber. Roman Reigns, get in there, Drew mckett,

(39:25):
you know when they would do that.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
That's all This is weird because I feel like if
you're telling storylines with Cody and you're telling story lines
with well, we don't really have.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
One for gun Th.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I mean they don't always they don't always do it
like that. A lot of times they'll just have the
championships be defended in an elimination chamber and they'll figure
out who's the WrestleMania number of contender like the week
after or something like, this is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
This is what we're gonna do. Logan, Paul's gonna answer
the elimination Chamber. He's gonna win, and he's gonna challenge
Tiffy for Tiffy Time. That's what's gonna happen. That's what's
gonna happen, manifesting.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
That's so funny.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Going to challenge Jiffy for a title. It would be amazing.
What a match that would be.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
That would be amazing. Also speaking of I don't think
it's happening, but a low key match that I really
do want to see it WrestleMania Real versus Dominic mysterio,
Like what like what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Just give it to like if you're gonna do like
if you're ever there's ever a time to do an intergender.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
One, this is the right.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Like all the ship that he put.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Her through, all the ship she got hurt and he
didn't wait for her and like all this breakupt, he
hurt her best friend.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
This is epic storytelling. Just make her kick his ass.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah, Like, and the reason I don't think they're doing
is because they kind of already had him take the
rip Tide from her, so I almost feel like that
was it. They built up so long and he finally
got his come up and but I'm not satisfied. I
want to see him actually get like in rip and
Bet And it's probably not a good WrestleMania match, especially

(40:55):
with her being champion, but just give me the match
on heraw then you know the change we should have
given it to me as Saturday might have been.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
To be honest, it shouldn't have been Nia Jacks, it
should have been Dominicing material.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
I am a fan of Naya Jackson. I did enjoy
this match, but this match, this whole show really just
didn't do much for me because we went in kind
of like assuming, oh well, considering the Royal Rumbles in
a couple of weeks, obviously nothing BIG's gonna happen, Like, yeah,
we didn't think they were actually going to give us
a new champion, Jay Husso going into the Royal Rumble
out of nowhere, and you know, like we didn't think

(41:28):
we Ripley, who just wondered title was gonna drop at
the Naya Jacks, who's technically not even on the same show.
Like the only thing I kind of thought was gonna happen?
Was Seamus winning? And you are the main reason you
convinced me You're welcome, You're rocome for nothing. I was wrong.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
It's okay be wrong.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
I mean, at least we got the same amount of
wrongs and rights for our prediction thing, so you won't
be having to get a tattoo.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
They still, Oh my god, how many times are you
gonna bring up how how you take advantage of drunken people?
This is what you do. You take advantage of drunken souls.
Ladies and gentlemen. Watch yourself around this one. He'll take
advantage of you. I she'll just try and tattoo you
right on the buttocks.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
What whatever. You just don't want to admit that you lost.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I do think they should have gone the other way
with it. You. I think Seamus should have won. I
think bron Breaker is somebody that should be going into
the Royal Rumble with as much momentum as possible. And
he's still a beast, but having that strap on his
shoulder is just kind of a big sign that says
I will not be made of anything wrestling. He is

(42:32):
if he's in the rumble, right, there's no guarantee. There's
no guarantee like you never know, and he's.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
A person that should be in the Rumble if I'm
being honest.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Well, you know, okay, so he is. Actually he's actually
announced for the Royal Rumble and the list of the wrestlers.
We do get over to our prediction section, but it
seems like bron Breaker's next opponent may have already been announced.
Pentha letting bron Breaker know that he has his eyes
set on the Intercontinental Chip I mentioned earlier. I did
think Penta was one of the guys that has a

(43:03):
WrestleMania moment in store. Now we have to ask, is
it winning the interconald Championship or is it going into
WRESTLEMANI as Interconnal champion.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
If he wins, I'm.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Gonna be very sad because I want Seamus to complete Histar,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
I know he has time, but he'll you know what
I mean, I don't know, it'll just.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I get you. And I do think a bron Breaker
should have lost it to a brawler similar to him,
where you know, somebody who's gonna go in You guys,
they had battle scars after the match, you know, you
know that Seamus doesn't pull punches, and whoever's facing him
cany either. So you think bron Breaker should lose it
to a powerhouse that can match that. Yeah, I mean, hell, hell,

(43:42):
get Otis in there. Let Otis say, you know what,
Chad Gable, I'm gonna do what you couldn't do. I'm
now after the title and watch Otis call out bron
Breaker and take the title.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
That would be beautiful, beautiful, And that's not taking away
from Penza at all.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
I just you know, it's more for Seamus that.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I think should have, right, I get Youamus, the same
alibs bron Strowman.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah, and also I just I do think Penta will
win in a great exciting match, but it won't come
across like a brawl. It won't come across like they
Bolt just went into a war, and that I think
that's the type of title loss of bron Breaker needs.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
I completely agree.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
They have such different rustling styles and that's not always
a bad thing, but in this case, I feel like,
if it's the it's for bron losing, then it should
be like that, like a going into war.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'll tell you this though, when they do have this match,
and bron Breaker goes for the spear and Penta somehow
counters a gigantic spear into a gigantic what they're calling
now a Mexican Destroyer that's gonna be fucking sick. And
I'm proud that they hit it perfectly and that they
actually make that the end of the match. Yes, he
hasn't actually won a match with the Destroyer yet, but

(44:49):
that one's gotta go.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
Oh yes, I like that.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I did like the Gunther j Usso match. It does
get frustrated constantly watching him lose world title matches, but
the guys at this point, and I don't know how
long it's gonna last. I was telling you this on Monday,
I was like, I do think, Like I really hope
they have plans in place to get the world title
on Jay us So before the year's over. Like I really,
they just gotta do it. Like he's there. You've gotten

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him crazy over and not just like flavor of the
week over. This is ten plus years of them watching
him kill himself on fucking Superstars, on Total Divas, trying
to get in a little shy with his brother just
so people remembered him. Because you guys, weren't putting him
on TV like you know what I mean, Like like,

(45:35):
this guy has struggled, he has cut his teeth and finally,
finally the cream is rising to the top, but you
can't hold it down.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
He's white hot.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
So it's like, get the world champion him already, right
and how much longer is it gonna last? Right? Right now?
He's teflon.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
The problem I feel though, is when they do get
it on him, he's gonna say or fat, it's gonna
be the code effect and unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Like he needs time, it's not the Cody effect. It's
the baby face champion effect. That's what people don't realize
that baby Face Shamian really shouldn't hold the title longer
in like three months at least that first time, right,
But like.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Him winning Big Papa, if it was WrestleMania, like that
would be outstanding. Then like his first like appearance with
the title coming in the crowd pop, he like the
place would explode and then like you said, three months
and then it fizzles out.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
And that's but that's fine because he should have a title.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Ring, yeah, like and it'll be easy to do, like
just you that's how like when Jay Hussa becomes world champion.
It leaves you wide open to create the next big
heel who's going to get in this guy's way, who's
going to look at him as champion and still laugh
in his face and tell him, I know you're not
holding it long. We all know you're not holding it long.

(46:45):
You're the most vulnerable person with that. You know, like,
I want a fucking vicious heel to say those things.
And then it actually happened, And obviously my biased mind,
the first mind I'm thinking of is et the fucking page.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
How fun would that be? How fun would that be?
Let jay uso have his first night as champion be
in Canada and have Eighth and Paige show up and
have the crowd be like.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
What do we do?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I love that and I love how over jay us
continues to be because watching him show up and raw
once again. He just lost again another world title match,
but he's coming out. The crowds got his back, and
that's all he needs to let me know he's gonna
win the Rumble and he will be world champion. And
it's like speeches like that that make me like, like,
that's what I'm saying like Triple H gotta have a

(47:29):
plan in place to get it done this year because
it's not gonna last forever. He can't stay this over forever.
They're not gonna be like eventually we've seen it done
with how many guys you just condition the fans not
the care rusive day?

Speaker 5 (47:42):
How d you mention that when we were watching row
Russive day was red hot, white hot.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Put the belts on them and they took too long,
and then I don't think they ever got the belts and.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
It was, yeah, like reridiculous. So I do hope that
they know what they're doing with Jay and that they
do it right. They definitely know what they're doing with
Jacob fa tou my god, what a star, What a star.
And listen credit to bron Stroman because he really he
really took a beating and he really put Jacob like

(48:12):
I don't want to use the term burial, but like
god damn, bron really laid down for this man and
took everything. And I do think a couple of those
final moon salts were improvised by by the Simone Werewolf himself.
I could be wrong. I'm just making a guess. Probably
but yeah, like it was just so well done. Like
Jacob Batu looks like nobody to be fucked with. And

(48:34):
I really wonder what's happening with him because as he's
leaving bron Stroman laying, the fans are chanting fa too fa,
too fa too. I mean Tomatunga already has his and
I love their interest together. By the way, Toma tongue,
I got everybody on that, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah
yeah yeah, Like I'm sorry, but he does, I mean

(48:55):
smoking on that yeah yeah yeah, back all day long. Yeah,
it's addicted. It's so fun, and both of them together,
this this talking trash entrance is just beautiful. And I
of course love his line. I don't believe it was
from Saturday. I think he did it on SmackDown, but
a callback to his feud with the with Alex Hammerstone

(49:17):
Alexander Hammerstone where he says the line King con versus Godzilla,
You and King kkh Godzilla because I'm both I fucking
love that line. I love Jacob Battsu. I can't wait
to see what they do with him in the Rumble,
Like he's gotta have that moment where he just destroys
everyone and then Roman's music hits right, like that's got.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Maybe he'll be the new most elimination.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I could see that. I kind of was going in
and we'll talk about it, but I was kind of
had bron Breaker in mind or that. But once again,
like and I think it's perfect for him. But once again,
I mean, Jacob fatu Is is that dude, So he'd
be a good he'd be a good person for that. Also,
you know what wants to get that if he was
healthy though, right, our truth is always healthy that guy.

(50:02):
Uh No, Bronson. I feel like Bronson Reid would have
need a big, big shot spot live performance in Royal
Rumble and last and the longest probably wouldn't fit him,
but eliminating the most could He also could set the
record for most splashes in Royal Rumble. Oh yeah, maybe
most tsunamis well, I mean it is a tsunami, but

(50:27):
the record would be for splashes because he's the only
ones to ever hit this. With that out of the way, guys,
let's get into our Royal Rumbo predictions. Let's close this
show out the right way. Right now, only four matches
are announced, two of them, of course being the Royal
Rumble matches. I would be surprised if we didn't get
a third match on SmackDown, though right now, at the

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top of my head, I really couldn't tell you what
it could be. I don't think they're gonna get a
Tiffy title defense in there. Maybe actually, yeah, that'll probably
be it because we did see it was in a tech.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Who No, I said, probably gonna be Tiffy, that's what
I would assume that.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh no, I don't think it's gonna be Tiffy. Actually no,
in my mind, I just did some talking it's gonna
be Chelsea because what they did was they had Chelsea
lose a tag team match. Me, am, Actually I'm sorry,
Mechen actually pinned Chelsea. Uh and don't she shake your head?
Her Twitter handle is still me Aim, so I don't
air it, but she pinned Chelsea. So honestly, that's probably
the best shot we have. We'll get another match from

(51:24):
them on the Royal ro But that'll be my prediction,
just that that match happens. But let's talk about the
matches that are already announced. We've got d I Y
defending their tag team titles against the Motive City machine
Guns in a two out of three falls match. And
of course you can't talk about these guys without talking
about the pretty deadly of it all. They're so good

(51:46):
and I wonder set up for a Baby.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Fashion Police ran walk so they could run.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Yes, yes, I do too, And I hate that Tyler
Breeze is like under like I think he's retired, but
he's like under a w contract.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
It strains people and writes stuff. That's what I think of.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I think ww WE caused him to fall out of
love with not with with with actually pro wrestling, not
out of love with wrestling as a whole, but just
he doesn't want to do it anymore. The bumps aren't
worth it. People kept messing up his pretty face. He's
just content playing video games with his best friend Xavier
Woods and not having to get any of the heat
that Austin Creed is getting.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
I mean, the only.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
The only I have with him is that I posted
my Cosway as him numerous times and he never reacted to.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
It and or posted it what a putt. And my
costume was good.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
It was a good, so good. And my favorite thing
about that costume is you called me up, which you
never do. Normally we just text, but you called me up, Brady,
I need your help. Who should I be? I literally
closed might be.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
With blonde hair. I specifically said right.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
And yeah, I closed my eyes and immediately hit you
like it was it was a second. Immediate was like, oh,
you should be Tyler Breeze And obviously this is when
he was killing it in NXT still and chriss pretty.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
And I was like done.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
And literally the first thing you said was ooh, gender bender,
I like it, and.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Then you said done, and I was like done, If
that's what I'm doing. That was one of my favorite costumes.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
And then it's and it's so funny. You never got
around to doing Jericho and I don't think you ever will.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
And I had the Jericho outfit. I had it for
twenty twenty to at for Tampa. I had the outfit
and then I never got to do it.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
And you could have done his debut hair so beautifully.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
I know. Now I have no hair and.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Excuse me, who are you talking to?

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:32):
If I go to WrestleMania this year, I don't even
know if I'm gonna cosplay.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I think I'm just gonna wear a wrestling shirt.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
It's weird, oh man.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Or I have to like semi do it. I mean,
who would I do Rhea? But like I don't have
the body for that. Like I don't even know who
to cosplay.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
As Tiffy Time Grayson Waller.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Actually I could.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Do Tiffy Time, but I would do her clueless outfit
and then just get the share outfit and then just
walk around as to you.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Just get yourself a fake championship belt. I have one, woo.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
I have when Charlotte Blairwood bad.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
All right, we got here from the tag team titles.
You think they're getting back, Yeah, I do. I'm going
with di I Y and I think I think pretty
deadly will be the difference maker here. I think pretty
deadly we'll get involved. There'll be some shenanigans, a little
tom foolery, a little huffle puffle, and a little rizzle razzle,
and we get DIY retaining their championships. Okay, that's what

(54:21):
you give me. I poured my heart and saw out
and give you a genuine prediction, and all I get
is okay the last line. Again, I've said so much,
there's no fucking shot. I think that d I Y
will win the tag ting titles.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Wo.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
I like that especially with pretty Deadly, especially with pretty
Deadly in the mix of.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
You're a good friend, You're a good in the mix.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
What a good prediction there, Brady.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
I love the hoodwinks and and and.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
The Okay, all right, now you're pushing it. Let's talk
about Cody Rhodes Kevin Owens. Both championships are going to
be held up there. This is for the undisputed champion,
even though Kevin Owens really never won the championship, so
Cody Roads is kind of undisputed now. But I guess
if you just wear a championship out somebody can, you

(55:08):
are disputed. But Kevin Owens versus Cody Rhodes, I want
Kevin Owens to win this so so bad, so bad,
so bad. For the record, I felt the same way
when Kevin Owens was battling Roman Reigns at pay per views,
where I knew Roman wasn't about to drop the title.
But Kevin had made me such a believer and had
done such a good job, and the story made so

(55:29):
much sense, and it's like here we are again, years later.
I feel like I'm riding the same ride, just a
different person. At the helm of it. But Kevin Owens
once again seems like the guy that should be champion,
but because of what time of year it is, it's
just tough to buy in.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Yeah, Kevin Owens is one of those wrestlers.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
He'll make you believe that he stands a shot to win,
like win the title, but like like you said, because
in Rustlemania season, like, why would they put it.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
On Kevin l Like, it just doesn't make sense. And
unfortunately I have.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
To go Cody road Right, I'm with you, Cody Rhoads
takes this, but god damn it, it would be the
best thing for Cody to drop it now, Like fans
all of a sudden would want him to win the
titlet WrestleMania all over again if he dropped that shit now.
But the truth is people aren't really like as desperate
to see him retain as they used to be.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Imagine Cody dropped the title and then went in the
Royal Rumble and won the Rumble.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Three times in a row. He'd be the new Kevin Owens.
I do think Kevin Owens will be in the Royal Rumble.
I don't think he'll be a participant, but I think
we'll see him show up and cost somebody the match.
I will I will mention that name when we get
to the match, but yeah, I'm with you. Cody Rhods
retains and sadly, I think the crowd's gonna go mild
because I do think the crowd. I think more wrestling

(56:48):
fans want. Kevin Owens made believers out of us all like,
people know he's right, He's not wrong.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
He's one of those wrestlers that you love to use
the term delusional wrestle. But then when you listen to him,
he's like Magneto. You're like, he's right, Like you're like,
but Ron.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Let's talk about the men Royal Roma match first. As promised,
I will reveal the superstars that are confirmed for this
match quick. We've got Raymysterio, Chad Gable, bron Breaker, Penta,
jay Usso, Logan, Paul Shinsky, Nakamura, Sammy z A and
Drew McIntyre, Seth Rolinds, Seampunk, Roman Reigns and John Cina.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Who do you think?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
So that is a total of thirteen names, so still
still plenty more. You know what, I would have loved
to know the stats on this how many times the
Royal Rouma winner wasn't announced ahead of time for the match,
whether it be like a brock lesnar bullshit one where
you know, like that where it's like, oh God, damn

(57:45):
him again, or whether it just be somebody on the
roster that we kind of think is going to be in, like,
for example, an Otis. I think Otis could be in
the Royal Rumble, he's not announced for it. So how
many times has an Otis you know, surprise the world
and one I do miss.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
The Legends appearance.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
But like, obviously you're your roster is so stacked now
with all three three brands that like you have to
get everybody on those.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Yeah, like we want NXT appearances and like the legendary appearance.
But it's like the only reason we'll be okay with
the Legendary appearance is because we know WWV. And it's
like if we don't get like and obviously I'm just
saying because I'm a big fan, but if we don't
get like a hurricane, then we're probably gonna get a
Pat McAfee doing something stupid like last year again. Right,

(58:28):
So it's like and it's like people are already mad.
We see I show speed and Kay sineatt they're invited
to the Royal Rumble. Triple H has extended the invitation
and said, you guys can film however much streaming content
you want, stream the show, stream backstage. You guys have
all access. A lot of people are very scared. That
means that one, if not both, will actually be in
the Royal Rumble. I don't actually think they're gonna do it.

(58:50):
Maybe Speed, because Speed's kind of an adrenaline junkie who
is also kind of a freak athlete, So I could
see him being like, yo, just put me in there
and let me do a spot like Logan Ricochet did.
But it's it I think that's what fans are like
scared of. So it's like, if we do get and
obviously we're talking about the men's Royal Rumble, but if
we do get like a Victoria, you know who got

(59:11):
a nice pop just being in the audience not too
long ago. If Victoria comes into the Women's Will Rumble,
it's easier to forgive, you know, than than an eye
show Speed, than iceinat than in our truth actually getting
a spot in the women's Wild Rumble type of thing,
you know what I mean. So it's it's this one's
this one's tough, though, this man's will rumble because there's
so many heavy hitters in there. You've also got the

(59:35):
Doom Patrol.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
The people that are whispering the name of brock lesnar
and like we've all forgotten about it, and I don't
want to, Like, I don't want to think about a
world where he's actually coming back and doing that, but
people are whispering. You never know. I really do think
that John Cena or ciam Punk is gonna win, and
I'm leaning more towards well, I was say I'm leaning

(01:00:00):
more towards Punk if I had a circle in name,
solely because, as I mentioned earlier in this show, they're
beginning to telegraph the decision that's been made. I think
that Ciampunk will be main event in a WrestleMania. Now, obviously,
all that technically means is that he'll be facing one
of the world champions, and that could happen a number
of ways. Royal Rumble doesn't have to be into it,

(01:00:21):
but royal rumble is the only way to guarantee quote
unquote that you main event, at least that you can
stake your claim. We've seen royal rumbles, not rumble. We've
seen Royal Rumble winners not main event, but nonetheless, that
is how it's built. The winner goes on to main
event WrestleMania, and I think the decision has been made
to finally give that honor to Punk. So I think
this is how he does it. I think Punk wins

(01:00:42):
the Royal Rumble match.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I think I think this is the way to do it.
I think I think. I don't want to use the
word punishment, but I think like he had to pay
his dues last year and that's why they gave it
to Cody, and you know, it was like, yep, you're
not getting it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I have I have a conspiracy theory about last year.
I think he was gonna win and he realized he
hurt himself in the middle and was like, nah, bro,
you have to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Nobody's gonna admit that. Nobody will ever love that, but
that's my conspiracy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
I love it. So I do agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Since you mentioned Punk and Sina, I am still sticking
with it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
I think my my dark horse might be bron Breaker.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I'm still gonna put I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
I'm still gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Put him I have punk is the one is my
shoe in, but I feel like if it's not punk,
I think bron Breaker could take it. I think bron
Breaker doesn't matter if he hasn't a Colonel Championship.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
He's just like, Nope, I'm getting that too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
I'm gonna get everything, and I'm gonna I think scene.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
I'm sorry, I think scene is a fun option.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
I wouldn't hate it because it's a good way to
get him into WrestleMania with a storyline and like especially
like he wants to break brick Flair's record and like
all that, all that that kahoots bullshit, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
But I also I also feel like it's it's a
funner option to just use seen his elimination to set
up where we go Somania with him put s in
an elimination chamber. I don't know, man, Like I know,
I don't know, but he's still gotta have some movie
deals in place for no I know. But I mean,

(01:02:11):
I I do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Have punk scena as my two, but I really truly
feel it's gonna be stampunk. But I want to put
bron Breaker in that mix too, because I really feel
bron Breaker would be an excellent Royal Rumble winner.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
If bron Breaker doesn't win this year, bron Breaker will
eventually win a Royal Rumble. Like I think that's a
great way to get him to the title, because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
It was yeah agree, he is agreed.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
He'll be eliminating everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
He'll be showing dominance against all these twenty nine other men,
and then he goes on to win the belt.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
Not an elimination chamber.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Not a money in a bank rumble is the way
to get him to the title exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
He's he like a money in the bank. Cashis are
always fun, but he's the type of wrestler that doesn't
need the surprise. He should win the Royal Rumble and
yet call a shot. If he won the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Money in the bank, he would just be like, yep,
I'm taking you Like. He doesn't need it. He doesn't
need a surprise. So I think rumble would be the
best way to get him to the title.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna keep him in there. But
punk is who who I think now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I mentioned to you on Monday that I thought Solo
was gonna be the one to throw Roman off the
top rope. But I still think that could happen. However,
as I was fantasy booking earlier and thinking about because
you know, as I did say, I do think Cody
Rhodes beats Kevin Owens for the title. Where does that
take Kevin Owens WrestleMania. I hinted that maybe Kevin Owens
and Sammy do something together against each other. Kevin Owens

(01:03:27):
has not stopped feuding with Roman Reigns. Kevin Owens tried
to cost Roman Rains the Ulafalla. Kevin Owens has not
given up his hatred for Roman Reigns. So I think
Kevin Owens, whether he's in the Royal Roman match or not,
I think he pops in and throws Roman Reigns all
right out, and I really hope they do it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
He's never gonna give him up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Gonna Okay, now that's a good song. Seguey, there you go.
Let's get into the women's match as I did with
the men's. Here are the women that are announcer the match.
We've got Eo Sky, Raquel Rodriguez, Ivy, Nile Lyra Vakyria,
Charlotte Lair, Nia Jackson, Naomi Bianca, Bell Lair, Live, Morgan
and Bailey. Okay, so that is nine. I'm sorry, wait

(01:04:08):
is it nine? Now? That is ten people? Ten women?
So we got twenty women that we still don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
You want me to go first on this one?

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Sure we do. I mean we could also just do free,
free discussion about it because there's so much unknown.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, we could do free discussion until
I decided to tell you. I think I do love
that Jordan Grace posted that she's celebrating her mom's birthday.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
I love that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
I think that she didn't just post you celebrated the birthday?

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
She posted posted a flight information.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah, with the government name and everything.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Oh, I did want to mention with the men's royal
rumble that I do think Joe Hendry is making appearance
like that's it important.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Oh my god, we forgot Joe Hendre.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Joe Hendry is one hundred making an appearance like that's
one hundred past.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
He has to has to happen. Do we get anyone
else from TNA? You think anyone else?

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
All right, I'm gonna tell you too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I would love to see love Let's get it, let's
get it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
I would love to see Ace Austin because.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
I fucking beautiful. Oh yeah, and he'd be able to
come out wearing his Chris Badees T shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
I would also love to see Moose come out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
That would be epic.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
That it would be.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Epic because Moose is so bid, such a powerhouse.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
And so but also so agile and such a creative
thinker when it comes to the wrestling business and knowing
what to do and when to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
That I would love to see. I don't know if
that obviously, I don't know, but I think Joe. I
think Joe Hendry is a shoeing because like the pop
alone for his music coming on and that entire crowd singing,
I believe in Joe.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Hendry, like and the clap like come on, Like I'm
gonna be doing it at home, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Like, So it's just with that being said, back to
the women, I'm assuming they'll have Masha. I mean, I
want to say, Jordan Grace has to make it appearance.
Even though she's posting all that bullshit. I feel like
it's just a ruse, a cunning attempt to trick us.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
But I feel like that those are two people from TNA.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I hope they don't have Tessa, because I don't think
that will go well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Unless you do, at Jesus Christ, you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Do a testa stare down with Charlotte, Like that's the
only way I will work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
I think I think we might get some NXT champions
in the rumble, like a Julia, like a Bolland Henley.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Yeah, but I'm talking specific uh tna. That's why I specific.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
With that being said, this one's tough, but I think
it's gonna be Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Ye. See, I feel like I would think it was
Charlotte if they didn't announce her ahead of time. But
then I think that I'm thinking of that oppositely, like
I almost feel like they're but and then I also
feel like they chose to announce Charlotte because they want
Becky to be the big surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
I mean, I think Becky will be the big surprise, And.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
It's like, if Becky's the big surprise, then that sets
me up more for a Becky win than a Charlotte.
Grant that I have read the rumors that Tippy's opponent
might be Charlotte. Can't say I'm excited about that, but
it is probably the best way to begin. It's probably
the best way to begin Tippy's run as a baby
face as long as Charlotte doesn't go over. But what
fucking confidence we have that's like like she had, Charlotte

(01:07:01):
always goes over.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
Oh I thought you meant over with the crowd. I'm sorry,
that's how I meant it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Oh no, no, no no, I meant you going over
like as the fans.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
I thought you meant as with the fans. I'm like,
she's not going over with the fans, even though I
love her, Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Charlotte is one of my favorite wrestlers, like female wrestlers,
if not your favorite wrestlers. She's she's disgusting how good
she is, Like, it's disgusting how good she Like, I
don't care what anybody says. People can talk about her
old you want she is. She is a decorated champion
for a reason, Like this woman is better than half
the man on the roster, like it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
I'm just kind of tired of like it just being
handed but not hand.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
I shouldn't hands to her, but they're just like up,
Charlotte's here, so now we got to put her in
the picture.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
But with that being said, yeah, like they're incapable of
creatively booking a storyline for her that does not involve
her just immediately skyrocketing herself to the title.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
Right on the fucking nose.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
That's exactly that's it, And you don't need that use
her to elevate other people.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
She can go over without destroying somebody else. Like, it's
possible if you book it correctly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Hundred percent agree ahead, she definitely has a good shot
of winning this though, like it's tough, it's tough to
it's tough to go against her. I would love to
see like and then it's like I think, like I do,
think Becky's coming back and winning. But then it's like,
so we've got Rea Ripley as our champion, and we've
got Tiffy as our champion. If Becky or Charlotte win,
it's most likely a challenge to Tiffy. If realistically, I'd

(01:08:23):
rather see Charlotte versus Rhea, so Riha can get her
lick back.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
I would love to see that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
I will say, if she didn't just win the championship,
I would say they would probably put put the rocket
on Lia Valkyrie because I feel like they Rea Valkyria.
I always say her last name wrong because I feel
like they're really like putting the rocket on her.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
But yeah, I just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
I mean, Naomi's there too. If Jade comes back, maybe
Jade'll win.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
What Like I've said this before, Like I think if
you take away the tag team Championship, Naomi's been set
up the best to to like, like, she had the
most best story going forward. She's been putting out the
best matches in terms of they put they make her
number one contender. She has great She's had great championship
matches recently where she came just close. But the band
guys who behind her. If you listen to the reactions,

(01:09:10):
fans are louder for her than they are for Bianca.
Like her music hits, crowd gets loud. She she still
has that hangover of respect from the words she did
in the TNA Nacous Division then coming back over and
everything she's done since. So Naomi taking on Tiffy at
WrestleMania sounds like it would be the best, the best
decision for like in terms of active wrestlers winning it,

(01:09:33):
people that have been on TV and been doing it.
I hate that we're looking at this and it's like
the most likely are two women that have been out
the entire year.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Right, and that that that's like if Tiffany didn't win
money in the bank, I could see Tiffy winning Royal Rubble.
Like like last year, I felt it was so certain
that Bailly was winning. There was no doubt in anybody's
mind that Bailey was winning because they had.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
The story waiting for it. Yeah, she was there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Everything was there here. I feel like it's someone known.
I'm not unknown in a fun way, unknown in a
are we really just gonna throw it at Charlotte or Becky?
And it's like, like I said, if Jade comes back,
I don't know Jade's situation. If she's coming back, right,
but I could see her winning it. But is she
ready to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
The Jade situation is confusing? Yeah, right, Like they haven't
committed to that, to that who done it story as much,
they haven't to that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Like we we know she's heard. Is she coming back
at the rumble? If she comes back, is she really.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I don't even know if she's heard anymore because we've
heard no health updates about what the injury ever was, right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
If she's like right, so if she's not, if she's
coming back at the same time. Is she ready to
already be in a main event like and win titles,
like win the title?

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
If I mean you don't necessarily.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
It almost seems like Jade would come back and like
she can't just like even if she does compete in
the Royal Rumble and try to win, it almost feels like, Okay,
it's cool, but we need you to tell us who
took you out, like you you need to get your
lick back. You need to go after her. I'm gonna
so I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Gonna put two since we did two for men's and
my second one.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Is just manifestent. If that's okay, sure, I'm gonna go
Jordan Grace.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
I mean I said that the last time we spoke
about this, Jordan Grace would be ultimately she's and then
she would challenge She would challenge Ria Ripley on ndred percent.
She can't be in the like she needs to actually
win and that would be the ultimate way to just
catapult her to the top. Charlotte Flair can face Tiffy
another way. Becky Lynch can face whoever she wants in

(01:11:26):
another way. This is Jordan Grace's only real shot, like
at Rea Ripley and the truth is if a babyface
does win, yeah, it makes sense in terms of face,
he'll take on Tiffy, but Ria Ripley's been established as
you know, the bigger fish. So if you're a baby
face and you're like, I want the best match, I'm
going for the tippy top. I'm taking on you, mommy,

(01:11:49):
so like and and that coming from Jordan Grace, that's
the move. That's so that's.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Just my other guest for funzies.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
If everything she's saying is a ruse, maybe she is
going to visit her mom, but she's hopping on that
plane super fast, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah, I refuse to believe. And in fact, I think
the only reason she's doing this is because the news
sites out there couldn't keep the news to themselves for
another week. They everyone had the reveal. Yes, Jordan Grace
has officially signed a multi year deal with ww edge.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Just that shit too remembered.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Yea there and it's sure you're right exactly quick before
I do announce the prediction, I wouldn't mind seeing Oscar return.
I don't really know her injury status if she's close
to coming back, but I wouldn't mind seeing her back
I wouldn't mind seeing one of the Proud Mommies come back.
I don't know if Carmela or Alexa Bliss are are
really close to returning, or if they want to, or

(01:12:42):
any of that. Really. I've read that Alexo is or
was closer than Carmela was, but I think both of
them would be fun. I will never turn down a
Trish Stratus return. I do not care you've only announced
ten women. You're telling me that we've got enough space
for Trish. Thank you, Trish. I wouldn't mind Masha, the

(01:13:03):
TNA Knockouts champion, showing up. Having her and Jordan have
a nice stare down could be fun. Maybe even Naomi
gets gets in there a little little three way stare down.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
A lot of people keep saying, aj Lee.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
That would be cool. I think she's done, and also
I think it's smart that she's done. If she wanted
to come back and actually compete with the women we
have in wrestling today, she'd need to be working on
that ship for months, an indie match here or there,
at the very least, getting into there with like Natty
and Tyson, you know, in the dungeon and listen for

(01:13:37):
all we know Tyson and Natty are good at keeping secrets,
you know, and so maybe they're just smart enough to
be like, all right, turn it off when AJ's here.
Who knows? Or maybe AJ picked a private gym and
isn't showing a ship. It could always happen and it
would blow our minds. But I'm not holding my breath. Antonio, Tovio,
screw you for even trying to put that evil on us.
Ricky Bobby, he says, Rowdy Ronda would be the wildcard entry.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Oh dare you?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Thankfully she like burned that bridge, so I don't really
have to worry about about stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Yeah she did, don't every.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I'm really with you entirely. Just to be a
little different, I'm gonna change my main pick to Becky
instead of Charlotte, just to be a little different. But
I'm with you. I'm with you in terms of the
second pick being a manifestation pick of what I think
should one hundred percent be the booking decision here. You
invested time into Jordan Grace introducing her to your audience

(01:14:28):
last year at the Royal Rumble. Also last year during
multiple NXT appearances and xd pay per view matches, she
as TNA champion, did the right thing and put over
your people. She's yours now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
She she put him over and she also won over
the crowd.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
The crowd loved her.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
She was portrayed as a yeah, and she was always
portrayed as a top superstar. She came across as a
main event talent. That's the way you presented her. And yeah,
a Royal Rumble surprise will be fun, a dominated performance, great,
But where's the follow up? What's next? Where's her WrestleMania moment. Unfortunately,
the women's division only has so many matches afforded to

(01:15:08):
them at WrestleMania, especially when we're now talking about a
five six if you're lucky match per night. You know. So, yeah,
I think the best way to commit to Jordan Grace
as your next big signing. And keep in mind, we
just had three sign NXT, so Jordan Grace cannot go
to NXT, has to go to the main roster, has
to go to the main event of WrestleMania or whatever

(01:15:29):
the women's match ends up being at WrestleMania. But yeah,
Jordan Grace versus Rea Ripley, give it to me, Give
it to me, and you know what, Ria Ripley just
got her title back, yes, but I'm also sensing some
people kind of like, Okay, well, Ria Ripley's champion now.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
What now? Like ri Ripley's a babyface champion now and
she no longer has her terror with her terror twin
Damien Priest. He's on a SmackDown. She's kind of done
with Live Live in Rock Hell. Might be going after
the tag team titles. That was kind of hinted. Adis
raw by their win. She's not really like I said,
I wouldn't mind riar Ripley taking on Dominic my stereo,
but no signs that that's happening. So rear Ripley might

(01:16:07):
be better off dropping the strap to Jordan Grace and
then probably getting shipped off the SmackDown to get fresh
your opponents and reunite with Damian Priest.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
I mean, we'll just have to see. I love Royal Rumble.
It's my favorite time of the year. I love Royal
Rumbles so much. I always have fun watching Royal Rumble,
no matter how frustrated I get with like some decisions
or anything.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
I just love the field.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
I love watching it with people, Like last year when
we went to Tampa like it was such a good
vibe all around, like everybody who.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
Sat next to his fun like it was just fun.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
It was just a good, so much fun.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
I'm excited and looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
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Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Thank you so much for tuning in. Happy Royal Rumble Week,
Capital Royal Rumble Day. And remember, guys, we're not just
smart marks where heel must.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Man An

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
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