Episode 275 - FAVOR SAVER - Heel Marks: A Wrestling Podcast

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tuning in in the future listening to us in the audio.
Thank you for his inviting us into your homes, into
your ears. The road to wrestle Mania rages on, and
last night SmackDown was the last of the international shows,
and despite some controversial reactions and some controversial fans, for

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the most part, I do want to start to show
off by thanking the international crowds. As always when ww
goes abroad, these crowds bring the energy, they bring, the excitement,
they bring, the creativity they do. In fact, on average,
get louder than the American fans. And it's not just wrestling.
With most sports, the European fans and really all abroad

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fans get very creative with their chants, with the songs
they sing, with what the way they respond to the
to the athletes, to the wrestlers, and in wrestling, I
mean that just makes everything so much better. It really
does set it apart completely.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I went to Germany and London for NFL games and
they're chanting and how loud they are is completely unreal
compared to America. Like it's really fantastic and really fun.
Like they're just so fun and they're so loud, like
they're chance you can almost clearly hear what they're saying.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And I remember when me and you were at WrestleMania
New Orleans and we were, you know, just make doing
our thing on on Bourbon Street and making friends from everywhere,
and the European fans, the fans from abroad, the fans
from other countries. They would always tell us these cool chants.
I remember my favorite chant was like the Tony Tony
Tony fucking storm and you know they still they Jimmy

(02:51):
Jimmy Lloyd has that chant. I love that. But like
those type of chance started overseas and it's just it's
I mean, I couldn't get a audio of it or
video of it to see if I was hearing it right,
but it sounded like and this chant happens overseas a lot. Also,
it's one of my favorites. But I could have sworn that.
Last night during the women's tag team match, Chelsea Green

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was getting chance of if you either hate or love.
I think they were saying hate because she's a heel,
but she's Chelsea Green, so they've also might have been
saying love. But I think it was if you hate
Chelsea Green, shoes off, if you hate Chelsea Green, shoes off.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Shoes off, and like that.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
They do that and they always they hold their shoes
in their hands and they're they're waving their shoes around
singing it. They've done it for I remember they did
it for Zack Gibson a while ago, and because that, Yeah,
he's so good at just leading into the hatreds, so
that was just great. But but yeah, I love how
creative they get. I love the Cody Rhodes song which

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Danielle was criticizing before the show began. The Roman Reigns
song which Paul Haman graced us with a solo, And
that's just Paul Hayman and Roman Reigns getting each other,
getting the moment, knowing the business. Paul Hayman is literally
on bended knee for his tribal chief as he is

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to be. The fans are singing this song. Roman Reins
is smiling ear to ear, They are embracing the song.
They're giving the audience the time to let the song sit.
And Paul Hayman, the wise man, the ultimate hype man
for the tribal chief, what does he do? Of course
he starts singing as well, and Roman, to stop himself
from breaking character and popping Hastuf, of course, throw the

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mic to Paul Hayman and we get one of the
greatest Paul Hayman solos, if not the only Paul Hayman
solo we've ever truly gotten on smack Down. It was amazing.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
It was definitely was.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's fun. It gets everybody hyped up.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I guess it's also because they don't get that, as
you know, they only do certain amounts of shows there,
so like they make sure that they go, just like
with the NFL football like they make sure they go
because this is one of the the few times that
they get it a year if within the year.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, no, it's it's they appreciated. And I remember we
were talking about that when it was Puerto Rico's first show,
right when Backlash went to Puerto Rico, and we were
talking about how because they made that event so good,
and granted they did have some hometown talent to get
really behind Zelina Vega, Damian Priest, Bad Bunny of course,

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but I remember even Eo Sky, like the reaction for
her was through the roof, like they just went crazy
for everything, Carlito coming out. It was just a fun
night and you could tell they appreciated everything because they
don't get this. We American fans are of course spoiled
as shit. We get this stuff all the time and
It's like, even if we don't get to go to

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a show live, we can always see it. That's not
always the case in other countries. You know, you don't
always get the sports games, you don't always get the shows.
So one hundred percent it's great to feel their appreciation.
WOHW publishers they love singing as well. Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Never heard fan like and that's what I hope. I
hope certain things catch on in America, like obviously, and
one of my favorite chants from yesterday the song for
Jacob Battu olay ole olay ole, fatu fa tu. I
fucking love that, especially since we do seem to be
getting closer and closer to Jacob Batto Jacob Battu going

(06:23):
full blown face uh like that song would just be
even better, but I doubt that would make it to
the States on a consistent weekly, every how every show basis. However,
the fans singing Randy Orton's theme song to you know,
the levels they were, the levels they have been, I mean,
I think that should and could continue in the States

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considering what we're in, like twenty plus years of Orton, Like,
how many decades is this the guy super legend, but
also seems to be bathing in the Fountain of youth
at least like at least taking ice bats where his
body just seems to be. He's He's constantly talking about
how he's able to put on top matches, he's able
to continue doing the full WWB schedule.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
He just can't see anymore.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Did you see that video? Did you see that video
of him trying to read ingredients off a can? He
was trying to read the ingredients and he.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Had glass Did he have reading glasses?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
He had reading glasses and his wife was like, oh,
she's like nice glasses, and he's like, fuck off, And
he just kept reading the can.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
See. That's how you know Randy Ortan's u up there
in age, because he's reached that fuck it level, not
even the I thing, just the fuck it level, believe.
I just like kept reading so funny. But yeah, I
really did enjoy I really did enjoy the extra It

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just it feels special. It feels like a special event,
like a p l e uh. The live crowds really
and I think it was very smart. I think a
lot of people were scratching their heads when they heard
about the foreign tour the fact that on the road
to WrestleMania we'd be getting Raw three in the afternoon
and SmackDown would pretty much already be getting spoiled through
the American fans by five. But it makes the road

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to WrestleMania feel special, and especially considering there are a
lot of people that have been consistently criticizing the bill
to WrestleMania, whereas there's also a lot of people that
are embracing the matches we get as we get them
and are seeing the main event level matches that are
compiling the card and are giving it a little more leeway.
I think this string of abroad shows definitely enhance the

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road to WrestleMania as we get closer and as we
learn main event matches. I don't think it's been a
secret or a surprise. If Cody Rhodes and John Cena
close WrestleMania, it will not be a surprise. I think
many of us are assuming that's what's happening. But there
was a question as to what was going to be
the other match. Obviously, as soon as Roman Reigns Set

(08:55):
Rounds and Sampunk was announced, everyone jumped to conclusions. I
personally did think there was a chance, a slim chance,
but I thought there was a chance they actually would
open the show with this one.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I could see that.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I think once once jay Usso won, I think you
and I actually talked about it. Once jay Uso won
the Royal Rumble, we were kind of like, is gun
Ther jay Uso main event?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Does that close the show?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
And it's not that we it's not that we're against
jay Uso in any way.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
We love Jauso and Gunther. It's not about that.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's just about does that scream main event status in
closing a show?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So that it and it's and it's not even Ken
jay Uso and gun their main event show. It's not
even kenja Uso and gun their main event to WrestleMania. However,
when it comes to making a card, when it comes
to assigning a main event, it's all comparable. You know,
you're you're designing the card and you're saying, Okay, jay
Uso and Gunther for the championship, but wait a minute,

(09:48):
we're also putting Seena and Cody for the championship. Can
this main event? And not know Okay, wait a minute,
now we're doing Rhea Ripley and Bianca and EO or
like you know, we're assuming possibly then it's like okay
that wait, Roman Seth, you know what I mean. So
it's like you have all these matches and it's kind
of like, how do we do that with good conscience?

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And then also we don't necessarily know for a fact
what the match total will be. They've been doing pretty
strict four to six matches, but it's WrestleMania, and we're
getting more singles matches at least singles programs leading into
Rainia than ever before. We are seeing the multiman matches

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and multi woman matches for that matter, start to take form,
but at the same time, there's still so much so
it could easily be eight matches both nights. And then
at that point that is where you flirt with a
very long show and are you doing a disservice? Are
you setting Jay Usso and a Gunther up for failure
and even a Charlotte and Tiffany Stratton for that matter,

(10:50):
if you put them at the end of now a
six hour show where you got blown away in the
beginn you know what I mean. So also, I think
it may sense for this to not just it makes sense,
but it's kind of a breadcrumb for us. You know
how when when we learn, like, for example, if we
learn that a title match is made eventing raw, you're

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kind of like, oh, wait, there's a good chance this
title might change hands now, as opposed to if they
just give it you in the middle of the show.
This match main eventing makes me think that there will
be some tomfoolery, a little bit of highjinks, that there's
gonna be something huge happening to end this match, to
end this show. And to that, let's get into how

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this announcement happened. Sure, it was, of course the contract
signing last night, Roman Set and CM Punk And this
is the part where like, I get what they're doing,
but it also seems very weird. Where Paul Hayman, still
on one knee from acknowledging his tribal chief, embraces CM Punk.
CM Punk is going through the contract. He's looking through

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every page. Roman Reigns even roast them a little bit
about it, and then Paul Hayman says, Hey, I know
what you're looking for. It's on this page, and yes,
allow me to make it official. This match will be
closing the show.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Cmpunk puts his arm around him. At this point, you
Sampunk are officially a WrestleMania main eventor gives him a
kiss on the forehead, and the fans of course go
crazy with cm punk. Chance Roman Reigns, in true travel
chief fashion, kind of laughs at it and eventually points out,
you know, you need me to main event, and that's

(12:28):
kind of it where it's like, that's my biggest issue
with it is how they're giving it to us in
storyline fashion. Ever since cmpunk came back, you know, in
following Cody finishing his story, Cmpunk's been trying to finish
his and his story doesn't actually need World Championships, and
it's kind of shown here. His story is about main

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eventing WrestleMania, and I get it, and they've been building
to it. We've talked about it in terms of segments
and then constantly having Sammy Zaine of all people call
him out saying, why did something you'll never do. So
we kind of saw where this was going, which is
why we had him pegged as a front runner to
win the Roil Rumble. This is why we had him

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peggs as a front runner to win Elimination Chamber. These
are two opportunities other than becoming world champion in the interim,
two opportunities billed as main eventing WrestleMania. He lost both opportunities,
yet simply because he's feuding with Roman Reigns and seth Rollins,

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like he gets the main event because of that, you
know what I mean? And there and the way, like
it's one thing if they just did it, but the
fact that they had Paul Haymon presented to him like that,
the fact that they did cue the crowd for the
you deserve it chance and the cmpunk chance and the
giving him the you know, the reaction for a favorable

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reaction for yes, he's main eventing. Yes, it finally happened.
It's like, I don't know, It's just if we're looking
at it as a wrestling, we're looking at it as
a shoot in terms of based on the work you
do day in and day out, that is what gives
the brass in the back the decision, Okay, they deserve
the main event. Let's go here. That's one thing, and sure,

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if we want to look at it this way. Punk
has surprised us since coming back. We were laughing, we
were giving him shit when he got hurt again and
when he was looking kind of oldish and sluggish, but
he's turned it around. His promos have been top notch,
his matches have been great. He's put on some great
programs with multiple people, all of which have benefited from

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feuding with him, even if they lost. Drew McIntyre has
benefited tenfold just from feuding with him, and he did
not necessarily come out on top of that. So Ciampunk's
done great work and does he deserve a main event spot, Sure,
especially with the program him Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns
have put together. But from a KFA perspective, you lost

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two chances to main event. Jay Husso won one of them,
John Cena one another, and if we're being honest, Bianca
bell Air and Charlotte won the other two. So this match, really,
k FAB wise should not be in the discussion. And
the fact that cmpunk then went on to say this
is not my favor from Paul Hayman kind of throws

(15:16):
a giant wrench because at least that would make fucking sense.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, it's like you lose her good day, like you like,
come on man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Like, And once again, I'm not really angry about it
like I expected it, I think, you know, and it's
and once again, I do think, especially now that we
do know that in fact, despite Paul Hayman seemingly playing
a role in this, I suppose the argument could be
made that Paul Hayman did it for Roman, That's what
he does for his client. But once again, that's just
the point that Sampunk is only in the main event

(15:47):
because of roman reigns, which brings me to my suspicions
of the main reason why this has to main event.
It seems like we're getting the end of Hayman and Roman.
It seems like the favor might actually involve Hayman helping
Punk win. He doesn't want a main event and lose.
He needs to close the show with his handheld up
top and then probably take his talents to our new

(16:11):
world champion, whether it be the John Cena dream match
people would want, where John Cena maybe just turns face
over night, or more likely Jay Usa. You know, he
just he just took on Roman. Why not take on Jay?
Let me tear this whole bloodline apart, whole man.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, it's just it.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, Like I'm still scratching my head about it too,
because We've always talked about this where if you're a
Royal Rome Rumble winner, they do say, oh, you made event.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
So it's just a weird, especially with two nights now
you can do that.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So yeah, and I think I think a part of
it might be and like this is where this is
where there's the disconnect between what they're presenting to his
k fabe and the way it works, right, because I
think maybe at least a part of the conversation, at
least to Jay and maybe even about Jay, a part

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of it would probably be Jay did it or it
Jay has made event at WrestleMania CM punk has not,
if you know so, So, like I could see that
being it. It does kind of suck. It does kind
of suck that Jay Whoso will become the first Rumble
winner since WrestleMania became two nights to not main event.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I was like, since two nights. I was like, we know,
we know tons that haven't.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Alberta Dowry Orton too. Yeah, him and Bray did not
close the show.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty pretty poopy.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I mean, the question is, does that mean they opened
the show with Jay got there? Did they just give
them yeat Mania right off the rep, putting it in
the middle like and I remember thinking the same thing
when like when Kofe Kinks, when kofe Mania happened in
the middle of the show, And granted that was a
bit I think got clouded because everyone was just so

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happy to see the women finally main event and the
fact that Becky and Charlotte in particular did in fact
work their asses off to get that main event spot
not just for them but for the women, which obviously
opened the doors for future women to main event WrestleMania,
which we've seen, so I think that was where it
was a bit more forgiving. But even then, it was
kind of like they put this amazing moment that most

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of us paid money to see, traveled to see. We
wanted to be there for Kofe Madia and it's right
then in the middle of the show. And then of
course they follow up by making Kofe unfortunately a mid
card world heavyweight champion. And I think we'd be lying
if we didn't say we had at least small fears
about them doing that for jay Uso, because gunther Is

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kind of felt like a mid card world heavyweight champion
despite holding it for close to a year, and Jayuso sadly,
you know, with the way they've built it and now
really making it official that they won't be closing that
he can say I won Royal rumblin on made event
in wrestle media, but no, you were not it. Once again,
this feels like a mid card world heavyweight champ being

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ship program, right. Yeah, so you know, so they're setting
themselves up for a rough road following WrestleMania, assuming they
do go the right way and give jay Usso the nod.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
It was almost like they gave ja Uso the Royal
Rumble wind to shock people in a good way, like
a fun way, because I mean we all were shocked.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
We were like, oh, there's John Cena. Jay us is
gonna get the rub, but he's still gonna get eliminated.
Johnson is gonna win ya ya YadA. But it was
kind of like a big surprise and we're all like,
we're okay with it. It's almost like they built it
up for the Royal Rumble moment, not the Wrestlemanium moment.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
They were giving it to him. They you know what
it was. It was like them saying you deserve to
win the Royal Rumble. You deserve to be a Royal
Rumble winner. This is a spot that for the most part,
let's say ninety plus percent of Royal Rumble winners go
on to have a Hall of Fame level career. You know,
the list of Royal Rumble winners that became bus overall

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are not that many, so I think they were like,
you deserve this. However, when it comes to story telling,
when it comes to building the WrestleMania card, I don't
know if they ever really had intentions of doing it.
And unfortunately, ever since the Scena Heel Turn became official
elimination Chamber, I've been saying, and a lot of people

(20:13):
have disagreed with me on the interwebs, but I've been
saying that the truth is Sena probably should have won
the Royal Rumble because Sena and Cody are main eventing
and you still could have had Like a lot of
people were saying, well, he needed to lose the WrestleMania.
I'm sorry the Royal Rumble to want to want to
take Rocks over, to have to sell his soul to
be taken to this level. I don't necessarily think that's

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the truth. I think Rock has stroke, and I think
he used that evil stroke to get what he wants,
whether it be Travis Scott, John Cena, and whoever's next
to come. So I don't think he needed to lose
the Royal Rumble. They could have set that up. Then
jay Usso would have won Elimination Chamber, and then since
Sina would have won and called out Cody, Gunther would

(20:57):
be the guy waiting to see who takes him on.
All those fucking future Hall of famers that were in
that stacked as fuck Elimination Chamber match, they'd all be
competing for Gunther. So that kind of elevates him a
little bit going into it. Jay Usso gets the huge
win over those big names, and then now jay Usso
gets it, and then it would be a natural progression
on how jay Usso gets his way to this third

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match against Gunther, fights his way to this redemption. He'd
win a big time elimination Chamber match to go to
WrestleMania for the World Heavy Championship. That would be equal
elevation in terms of the storytelling, in terms of the hype,
but he wouldn't be held to such high standards that
these people have now held him to that have all
turned on him and started to insinuate that he's not good.

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He has three moves, he can't talk, he's just a
tag team guy. YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah, yeah, which,
of course you know. So I think they set and
once again, we wouldn't be so mad about jay Uso
and Gunther not made eventing. If anything, we'd see it
coming a mile away. If it was the match made
by the Elimination Chamber as opposed to the Royal Rumble,

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it wouldn't be this big of a deal that jay
us and Gunther's not main eventing, but it would be
just as big of a deal that jay Uza was
facing the world that we were shaming at Mania and
probably leaving Mania as champion. So in retrospect, I do
think they probably should have gone the other way. I'm
not losing sleep over it, and I'm happy that when
jay us So does go in the Hall of Fame,

(22:21):
Royal Rumble winner will be a part of that resume. Yeah,
it will be one because he did deserve it. He
does deserve But like I.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Said, I feel like they did it just for the
Royal Rumble moment and not for the medium.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Right right exactly. They did not connect the dots ahead
of time. However, with this story Jan and Gunther, let's
get into the newest development. Uh. It was last week
that jay Usso had a bit of a stumble doing
a dive over the top rope that he has done
for over fifteen years, successful all the time. He did

(22:53):
have a little bit of slip up reminiscent of the
AJ Francis top dollars slip up, which of course means
everyone and wanted to make it a meme and WWB
chose to incorporate this in the storyline. We saw that
as jay Usso had the upper hand on Gunther setting
him up for a spear, he slipped. And I don't
necessarily think this was the right thing to do, because

(23:15):
I don't know if you caught it on Twitter, there
was a litany of people, so many, like a large
portrait of the audience that did not believe that that
was planned, that truly thought he fucked up again. And
it's kind of like, this is wrestling. If somebody stumbles,
all he has to do is give us an impressive
performance the next time we see him, and we're gonna

(23:35):
forget all about that having his storyline Stumble is playing.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
With fire, right, Yeah, I didn't think he actually I
didn't think you thought.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh no, no, right, yeah, you and I didn't think no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I saw him slipping and I was like, oh, But
then when he got up, I was like, oh, no,
that's not that's not real.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
No, I saw it a mile away. And then storyline
the commentary did a good job of also kind of
alluding to it. And then of course the Jimmy promo
in the back. I do like that there at least
you using let's first off, talk to Jimmy Usso surprise,
since obviously a lot of us were hoping for Joe Hendry,
but having Jimmy Usso kind of just hop up behind
him and be like, yeah, the brothers are back. That

(24:11):
was fun. We can't go wrong with an USO reunion.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I was gonna say it was the only outcome where
people wouldn't be too upset. I feel like, if you're
exactly with anybody else, it wouldn't have worked. But the
fact that you had a nice little tag team USO reunion, like,
we're okay with it.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, if you didn't have a wrestler from Scotland that
was gonna come out and get the hometown surprise. Pop,
you gotta just go with, oh shit, we're seeing the USOS. Yeah, okay. Also,
Jimmy USSO is so fucking good, Like we don't talk
about it enough, probably because it's Jay's turn right now,
It's Jay's time. But Jimmy really has never not been

(24:50):
like it's never been like. You know, a lot of
times with tag teams, people get compared, people stand out
a little more. For example, if you go back to
the Heavy Machinery days, and I always like Tucker, but
everyone knew Otis was the standout that shit you saw
a mile away, and so it stopped people from seeing
the talent Tucker had. Everyone kind of just you know,

(25:10):
devalued him a little bit because they didn't consider him
to be on Otis's level. I never really got that
until the Bloodline story happened and the characters were becoming
different people. Jimmy and Jay were never like, Oh it's
gonna be Jay, He's gonna be the star. Oh No,
that was never the case. This organically happened. But Jimmy's
a great talker, arguably a better talker arguably a better

(25:31):
promo than Jay and so and Jimmy has different levels
to his promos. He can get his crazy eyes out
and start talking. He can get funny, he can get loud.
He can slap the shit at a Gunther, which he
did on Monday.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I think with Jay, my problem with his promos sometimes
is that he just yells, like I know, he gets excited,
so he just starts yelling and he raises his voice
a lot, and it kind of is like, okay, you
can bring it down a notch.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think that's all because, you know, a lot of
it is also he kind of he kind of has
the what thing going where he can just say things
and they're gonna eat for him, you know. So he
can just be like, I'm going to media yet, I'm
gonna take the championship, ye, I'm gonna put Gunpa down ye.
And then it's just kind of like, okay, technically it's
a promo, but we're not getting the same emotion you

(26:20):
would from a natural promo. You're getting the crowd involvement,
you're getting the live crowd super hyped, and we can
feel it from the TV as well. But it does
it's it's it there's a big contrast for what wrestling
fans have the condition to consider a wrestling promo. And
also it does limit how much story you can tell,
which is why I'm glad. I mean, Gunther and Jay

(26:41):
have done a great job of getting personal and this
incorporating the slip ups and making it seem that Gunther's
in Jay's head, making it seem that the pressure is
getting to Jay. It's getting heavily criticized online. I wouldn't
have done it, Like I said, I think ignoring the
stumble is definitely the cleaner way to go, especially considering

(27:04):
how many fans are now doubting his ability to carry
this torch moving forward that he's clearly approaching. I do
think Jay is a very talented storyteller, though like he
fuck out of me.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, I won't give that away from it. It just
sometimes he just feels like he's yelling.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
But like with with but with them giving him this
mountain to climb, I don't know if he'll be yelling.
It's kind of one of those subduing feeling, you know,
where he's where. We're watching him become numb. It's like
he's starting to not believe and now Jimmy us is
coming in here being like, I got you, I'm gonna
make you believe. So I fear for Jimmy. I'm not

(27:43):
gonna lie. I do fear that the that the storytelling
way they're gonna go with this is that Gunther is
going to beat the ship out of Jimmy Uso. Uh,
maybe not during the match. It might be a thing
of like it just gets a dq finish and then
Gunther says fuck it takes it to throw them through
a table chair. But I'm I'm picturing Jimmy USO being
led bloody to where Jay Uso now gets taken to

(28:05):
that level because now it's not just about him redeeming himself. Now,
it's not just about WrestleMania. It's not just about the championship. Now,
you fucking made my family believe. Now you came from
my big brother, so now I'm gonna have to get you.
So like, I'm still confident that they're gonna be able
to land this plane. There's just a little pilot caused
turbulence or not pilot. The fucking the bosses who ordered

(28:29):
the pilot. I don't know another thing A lot of
people don't know about is the newest Lucas sensation, Tara,
of course, I'm talking about El Grande. I'm Medicano straight
from the Gulf of Jesus Christ. What are they doing?
So I'm not gonna lie. I did kind of want

(28:52):
to wait to see what the Mexican, what the Hispanic
reaction to this was, you know, if they felt that
this was racially insensitive or just insensitive in general to
what they're going through, what's happening in the world. I
wanted to hear that out. For the most part, that's
not what I'm getting. For the most part, it does

(29:12):
seem like everyone's on the same page that, yeah, it's stupid,
and I don't like necessarily hearing it. But this is
a heel, and this is an American made heel, and
he's trying to fool the world. And they're clearly making
a parody of this whole thing, using AI images for
the promo and everything, so like they're making it a parody,

(29:34):
they're making it satire. It's supposed to be laughed at,
it's supposed to be goofy, it's supposed to make us
not even hate him as a villain, like he's so evil,
hate him as a goofball hate him is like, what
is this man doing pretending to be a whole ass
louta door?

Speaker 4 (29:49):
You know?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Do I think it's silly? Yeah? And considering Pentas seems
pretty locked into the Icy title going into WrestleMania, now,
I'm not really sure, like is this all all just
setting up for an American made l w O match,
because I can't imagine that makes the WrestleMania card. I
can't imagine it gets on it.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's like pre show. It's not gonna be like on
the show.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I don't even think they do WrestleMania apprecias anymore, do they?
I feel like they stop that like that was I
feel like that that kind of went hand in hand
with the four match cards. Maybe WrestleMania will be different.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah, it's it's it's just like a fuffle, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
It's yeah, what are we doing here leading up to WrestleMania,
Like are we doing this or line like two three
weeks before WrestleMania to have it on the car because
like you said, and as you've been saying, like since
there's so many single matches and it's like this is
going to be a match on the card instead of
something else.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
It's you know what I'm hopeful of. I'm hopeful that
really what this is building to his feud with Lucha,
his embracing of the dark art that is Luca, him
becoming El Grande a Medicano. So he'll he'll do this
with Ray and l w A. Right. However, on the
other side, you've got Penta and he's going for the

(30:58):
IC title. At least here's that way. Maybe Penta wins
the ICY title, El Americano or Chad Gable an American
Maid actually come on top. If this LWO and then
Chad Gable El Grande Americano can become the ICY Champion.
Maybe he had to embrace Luca to finally achieve his

(31:19):
ultimate goal of becoming Intercontinental Champion.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I mean, I don't that idea, right, I don't hate it.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
It's not bad, it's not likely, it's not likely, but
I don't hate it.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
But there's dots that I can connect. So I'm hoping
WW chooses to connect those two. Speaking of the ICY Championship,
let's get into that case. We did see bron Breaker
face Penta and that match match went to shit when
Judgment Day got involved, Finn Balor has been obsessed with
the Intercontinental Championship. The Judgment Day for now seems fine,

(31:54):
even though Dominic almost seems to be like the new
unofficial leader of the majority of Judgment Day and like
everyone's kind of looking at him like, yo, why are
we helping him? Why don't you take the match? Why
don't you do this? And dom is being loyal to Finn.
It's weird because Finn hasn't done anything to endear himself
to the fans, So like, I don't know, it's you

(32:16):
would think this is leading towards a Finn Balor a
face turn, right, Like Dominic would just go ahead and
go triple heel and just turn on Finn and just
be even more heel than he is now. But would
Finn instantly become a baby face just because the evil
stable that he was kind of abusive to finally decided
to kick his ass. Yeah, I mean I would say

(32:38):
if this was farther down the line, maybe a few
months down the line, I'd say, maybe JD mcgonna is
getting ready to come back. He'll come back to help Finn,
and that instantly turns them both faced, because the fans
are gonna love j D now after that last match
we saw, But I don't think he's that close to
coming back for I don't believe he's even been able
to take a bump yet, so that that setup seems
silly or not silly, but a little early. Yeah, I

(33:01):
am enjoying what's going on a judgment day, but mostly
I'm enjoying what I'm not supposed to enjoy. I'm enjoying
the tease that Dominic Masterio might become inter kind of champions.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Really like that. I'm liking Carlito. I think he's big
and goofy and just having a fun time.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Like no Carlo.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
We've been following Carlito for so long and like he
was never like this, and now this is just he's
just having a good time and just hanging out and
doing what he's supposed to do to get laughs.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I love it, and I love how there's so many people,
and I think I definitely was on this boat at
least a little bit where I was like, Yo, Carlito's simone,
w why don't we use him? Why doesn't he work?
But at the same time, it's like, yo, he probably
doesn't want to bump all the time anymore. He just
has to travel, He has to make jokes, do a
little improv in the back and then and then he
gets his money.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Make sure his apple's right.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
But like that, eat an apple exactly. Maybe maybe take
a bump or two. But you don't have to work
a full match. He doesn't have to put on the time.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
He doesn't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, he's living the veteran life. This is how you
do it. This is him and MVP. MVP's got the
cane and the suits and the managerial title. Carlito's just
got the apple and he's hitting on Keel Rodriguez whever
he can.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, relief, that's the way you do it.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
If you're going to retire as a wrestler or do
it like that, just come back and do these spots.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah. And then if Carlito does ever turn on somebody,
the crowd probably will go crazy, like if they ever did.
Try to just make Carlito like a baby face real quick.
Oh yeah, because he's carl is not really a heel,
like he does do dacardly things, but he also everything
he says is hilarious and the crowds.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Of him, right, He's just he's just fun, just a
fun thing.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I don't even know if I'm supposed to be rooting
against the Judgment day or liking the Judgment Day. I
don't know what how I feel about the Judgment Day.
I like the Judgment Day, but I don't know how
I feel about them.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, it's weird. I mean, I think due to Live
Morgan in particular being such a villain, such a stone
cold villain at this point, I think that kind of
sets the tone worth and that's why I'm like, oh,
so Finn must be going face lives heel, living dom
er together their heel, Raquel's heel. Carlito is just kind
of with them. He's kind of chosen that side of

(35:08):
the fence, so he is more heelish, but just funny heel.
And then there's Finn, who like still like I'm not
as a character, as a fan of the character or
as a viewer of the character, I've been given zero
reasons to suddenly want to cheer for him, to to
not necessarily want him to get turned on by his

(35:28):
by his group. But once again, it's just that that's
but that's what makes this fun what they're doing with
Judgment Day, because the truth is, when it does eventually happen,
we're not going to see it coming. We're assuming that
they're setting us up for a WrestleMania split because it's
the road to WrestleMania. But I can easily see this
taking this down the road a few more months, absolutely,
And I wouldn't mind Finn Ballad becoming Icy champion as.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Much consistent and he's always consistent.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
My guess is, and especially with Finn Baller constantly like
going from my life you Dom two, I can't trust you, Dom.
I think what's gonna happen, especially you know Adam Pierce
likes to stir the pot when it comes to heal Stables.
I think it'll be a four way at Mania for
the title bron Breaker, Pentha and these two, Dom and Finn.
I mean, that's where it's gonna go either way, because

(36:17):
as I said, I could see Penta winning if they
wanted to actually try to get the Gable somehow, like
if that's the way Gables Penta or Gables Luca Adventure
ends going after our newly Luca Intercontinent champion. That I
also I feel like they are strongly behind Pentus, so
it would make sense for him to leave Mania as
the champion Dom and Finn. That type of win almost

(36:40):
seems like more of a backlash move, so Bron could
always retain. You never know, people do pay attention to
the WrestleMania resumes, and so just because bron Breaker's title
reign has reached a certain point and a lot of
us are ready from the move to the next level,
we may just go with, well, we want Bron to
have a good rate Mania record, so let's give him
the win here.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, that's true. That's true, and I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with Bron having it a little bit longer.
I think Bron has been really great being an innercn
neal champion and a strong competitor, and I think it's okay.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Y know, the longevity the Judgment Day has had is
kind of crazy, the different iterations they've had from Edge,
from Edge, Ria and Damien to Damien, Finn and Riea,
then getting domb, j D and Carlito join Live in Roquelle,
join Damien and ri Are Gone, like what the.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Especial especially JD because he felt like such a monkey wrench,
you know what I mean, Like he felt like he
just was thrown in there, and but it works, right.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
It worked. It was mainly his connection with Finn. And
then just as Carlito came in and we just started
seeing a lot of the funny sides of them. That's
when Jad really started gelling, because then like the what
was the line? What was the ad live line? It
was like, it's not that hard, and then carl It's like,
looks pretty hard to me. Some right, I'm gonna miss

(37:56):
Judgment Day when it's gone. But for now, Judgment Day
is fine. And for now it looks like Bloodline two
point zero is fine, or is it? Jacob bought two
and Solo and Toma Toga as well. We've talked in
the past about which way is it's gonna go. Is
Tama going with Solo because he is the first person
that came in, He was the MFT. But ever since

(38:19):
Jacob and Tonga Lowa came those three had almost seemed
like a unit in themselves that you're following Solo together.
Jacob and Tama seemed like a solid unit, especially as
Solo was spiraling. And and now I don't know what's
going on, we see Solo get super loud with Jacob,

(38:39):
which had me shook. I'm like, yoh, who are you
raising your voice too?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
I know that's scary. You're like, you don't raise.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
And then Jacob kind of got bossy with him two
and then Solo was the one that actually dropped the
line where it was like, yo, watch how you speak
to me and Toma, and then Jacob lets it be known.
He's like, listen, when it comes to Bronze Stroman, I'm
gonna be the last man standing when it comes to
the US Championship, I'm bringing it home to the family,
and I'm gonna do it with you, And he points
to Tomatanga or without you and looks right at Solo

(39:10):
as he says it. And then there's even that moment
where Tama has the slow I turn where now him
and Jacob are looking at Solo. So many visuals in
this segment so you don't know. Jacob is the big
time babyface. The fans have been dying a cheer this
man since he showed up. He truly is, to borrow

(39:31):
a phrase from Carmelo Hayes, he is him, Jacob Batu
is him everything. He says is money. Everything he does
is money. It hits different, and when he does finally
say I hate you Solo, that crowd is gonna go
fucking ape shit.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Oh yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Tom, I strongly dislike you.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
But Tomatonga is also just as likable and got his
yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah Ober. It's interesting though,
and to me feels deliberate that the WWE seems to
have kind of taken the mic away from him. Like
yesterday he literally uttered two words it's like but Jacob,
and then Jacob cuts them off, but Jacob nothing and like,
you know what I mean. So we used to see

(40:15):
him cut promos on the ring with Jacob. Now it's
mostly Jacob talking and sometimes Solo because now the showcase
is the Solo Jacob situation, and if we pay attention,
we're left to wonder where Tomatonga's gonna gonna rely gonna
lay in all of this, Which side does he belong on?
It seems likely that he'd probably go heal and joins Solo,

(40:39):
because if he goes with Jacob, you've got the Babyface team,
but Jacob is kind of got the rocket, and then
Solo is a heel who now after losing the bloodline battle,
he now loses his whole bloodline, So I don't know
if they're gonna rip it away from so so quick.
But once again, there's still Hicoleo in the back. Maybe
that's where he drops Tom Tonguan brings in Tala Tongue.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
They're just gonna bring in everybody.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
It's gonna be a bloodline big yeah. But speaking of war,
as I mentioned, Jacoba two does want the US title.
That much was clear yesterday when he got involved in
the Bronze Stroman La Night US Championship match. Similar to
the raw side where I do suspect we're getting a
multi man I did guess four person Ic Championship match
right now, it looks like we're looking at a triple threat.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Oh my favorite.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I feel like with Jacobo to Bronze Stroman La Night,
you would like that one. Though, it does kind of
feel like we're missing someone right Like, I feel like
there's like, if they don't have a fourth it's only
because they don't want two mid Car Championship four way matches.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yeah, probably, yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I feel like, I mean, shinsk just lost the title.
He doesn't need to be He's they cooled him off
so fast, So I'm not holding my breath with that one.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Uh Now Logan Pole is going.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
After, Yeah, Logan and aj are going after. That's gonna
be Wrestlingia. That's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
I hate that.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
It's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
I hate it. I hate it.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I hate so much.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
I don't know who else who are we missing?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Miss Honestly now you mentioned miss Carmelo Hayes would be
a fantast Oh Carmelo Hayes. Yeah, like they haven't been
building Carmelo towards all at all, But that would be
the perfect pick. And I'll tell you why it would
be the perfect pick, and not even just Carmelo, but
really you need a heel and I'll tell you why,
because Jacob Battou is not getting booed by anyone, especially

(42:27):
since they've really taken the next step towards his face
turn with the whole hymn Solo and and teasing the
dissension more and more and more every week, Like Jacob
don't love Solo no more. That shit is clear. So
it's one of those where like you want bron to
be over as your your big giant that you keep hot,
and you keep over so that he can here and

(42:48):
there put over guys like bron Breaker, like Bronson Reed,
like like Jacob Battou. So you kind of want the
fans to still be behind Braun. You definitely don't want
to accidentally cool this guy off for no fucking reason,
especially weeks so away from WrestleMania. La Knight's super over.

(43:09):
He's right there top three. So granted, maybe the fans
just cheer for everyone go crazy and this match is
match of the night because they're just it's just NonStop ecstasy.
But I'm also worried that you put yourself in a
position where the fans aren't They don't have the reason
to get behind La Knight as much when you want

(43:29):
them to want him to retain. They don't have the
reasons to get behind bron Stroman when you want to
see the Giant win it, And they don't have reason
to boo Jacob Battu when he goes on vicious attacks
on these two baby faces, if they don't have an
incentive to boo when their babyface hero champion La Knight
loses his championship, assuming that's what happens, you know, does

(43:52):
that make La and Knight lose little something. My guess
is they'd have to immediately have La Knight move on
to a feud away from the mid card championship with
a main event level competitor, and offhand, I don't know
what heels they have to fit that role. Maybe at
Kevin Owens.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
L A.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Knight vers Kevin.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Owens would be cool, yeah, Or maybe Ellen.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Nivers Kevin Owens would be very cool.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Maybe it's La Knivers n Strowman and then Jacob who
interrupts and cause him the match.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Are you what do you that is? You mean exactly
what happened yesterday? It's smacked up?

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Yeah, exactly what happened yesterday.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Okay, Yeah, they might do that again.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It's possible they've done that numerous times where they constantly
do that over and over again.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, they're not going to do that at WrestleMania anyway.
I think l A. Knight and Drew mcinti could also
be a fun one to heat l A. Knight back
up if he does lose the USHA chip at WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Maybe they've got a history. They've got a history dating
back to TNA. I don't think they hate each other
in real life. I'm pretty sure they're buddies.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I'm pretty sure they hate each other.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I'm pretty sure you're making that up.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
I'm pretty sure you're making that up.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
That you're making that up.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
No, I'm not making it up. They don't like each other,
since who does the streets bro?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
They get along fine. There was that thing at the
Royal Rumble where Drew was like annoyed with La Knight,
but then the next week on smacked On, Ellie Knight
made that joke saying, oh, I gotta get my stuff
in like the streets are saying that La Knight and
Drew were able to get past that relatively quickly. And
as I said, they have worked together for a while.
I do not think they have beef. I think you're

(45:14):
making that up.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I think beef and guys just don't understand when people
have beef.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I think you don't know shit. Okay, okay, that's what
I think. You don't know a goddamn thing. You didn't
know that Jade and Naomi had beef. You probably don't
know if Jade and Charlotte have beef. I couldn't tell
because they had a stare down yesterday. But It didn't
seem like they wanted to throw fists like they was
just kind of it seemed like they was just counting
each other's ads and admiring, like, oh wait, you have eight,

(45:41):
you have eight.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Hey, sister, that's the together.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
So many, seriously, so many. If they were attack team,
they could be called the Sweet sixteen.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Actually, I thought this was an interesting staredown. I'll tell
you why. A lot of us are dreading the idea
of Charlotte Tae making Tiffany Stratton's championship going in at WrestleMania,
but setting something like this up, especially as Jade is
most likely heading into a matchup, and I know a

(46:12):
lot of people have opinions on who should win that,
Jade or Naomi. Storytelling wise, you probably do give it
to Jade. If you're going with other things, you know,
as far as shoot reasons for why we choose winners,
maybe you go the other way around, right, maybe j
you know, but if you're going for the story and
for the resolution that it requires, Jade would win that.
So Jade gets a big win at Mania, Charlotte's our champion,

(46:35):
and now Jade is approaching like that seems like a
likely reason for this stare down. I really don't want
Charlotte to beat Tiffy bro They are setting her up
for failure.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Me neither. I don't want that. I do want Charlotte
to beat John Cena and getting beating Rick Flair's record.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
I do want that.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
What about Randy Orton?

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Randy Orton would be okay, I allow it.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
He was saying on SmackDown that he wants to He's like, listen,
I'm everyone's talk about seen her breaking it, but I'm
pretty close to it. Scene has done this year.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
I'm not how many how many more does Rindy need.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
To I think does Orton have fifteen or fourteen? I
think I think he's tied with Triple H. So I
do think they both have fourteen? Got it?

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
So yeah, so he'd need to win two more times
to tie them. He could do it, Yeah he could.
The Jade Charlotte stare down is certainly interesting. The Naomi
promo blew me away.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
I know it did.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I was very impressed by the range she showed, the levels,
the story she told in the three minutes. She was
talking the way she started with Bianca and saying, like, listen,
you know that I do the right thing, So why
can't you just know that this was the right thing.
Why all of a sudden are you assuming I did

(47:48):
the wrong thing? Who had your Who did you look
up to when you got here? Who who had been here?
Who was a veteran schooling you? And then I gotta
do it again? For Jade, I always got to be
third wheel. I constantly have to be the welcoming party. Like.
I loved her hearing her side. I loved seeing the
tears fall down her cheeks as she truly like captured

(48:11):
the emotion of losing Bianca as her sister, and then
wiping those tears away and saying, you know what, I
gotta teach you people how to treat me. This ain't
happening anymore. Jade, you take your back seat, and Beanca
you could take your back seat too. I love that
the Bianca Naomi thing is not done, and considering Beanca
has a championship aster WrestleMania, that also makes you think,

(48:34):
wait a minute, maybe Naomi could also be making her
way to a championship opportunity after WrestleMania and following the
work she's been doing since return to the company. She
really deserves it.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Ye, those tears are one hundred percent fake. She didn't
really cry to get that.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yes she did cry that those are not real.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
No, they're not.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
There was a cut and then they appeared.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
But okay, anyway, she closed her eye and the tear fell.
That's right, drown the cheek and that you think it
was an eye dropper or she put that stuff that
makes you you are.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Such a salty.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
I'm not salty.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I love movies that I love production, and I know
when I see something that's off.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
You're a fucking pretzel.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah, pretzels are delicious. I'm a delicious pretzel.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
No.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
I love the promo.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Thought it was way too much fucking salt to be delicious.
Just sending me straight to the water fountain.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, so you can stay hydrated and look what I
would be second but a good pretzel I am. But yes,
fake tears, stop it. But no, it was a fantastic promo.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
It was very believable. She really believes what she's saying.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
She's like, I don't understand what's going on here, Like
why don't why aren't you on my side? That whole
thing was fantastic, And like you said, maybe there is
a title future for her, you know, in the future
for her. I yeah, it was really good and it
was it was nice to see sometimes with Naomi they
rush her to do things and have her cut promos
or cut things certain ways that doesn't come across as

(50:00):
where this felt more real, and this felt more like
she was the one.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
That decided what to say and how to say it.
And this came off. Yeah, this came off beautifully.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, just really well done. I did enjoy the fact
that obviously we can't go too far with pushing Nietschen
and befab right now on the road to wrestle anither
unfortunately non plans. I did like how they're utilized though
now whereas they were being nice to Jade backstage, which means, oh,
you're Naomi's enemy, naw, so Naomi comes takes out her aggressions.

(50:30):
It does heat up. Naomi put a lot of heat
on the heel. However, she does still run from Jade.
So Naomi's talking a big game, but she still doesn't
doesn't necessarily want the smoke from Jade. Cargill loving it,
and I do believe we've talked about this before, but
this is gonna be the first, if it happens, I'm

(50:51):
pretty sure the first non championship one on one women's
match since I mean the last one I remember was
Live Morgan in nad during the pandemic WrestleMania. But like Pandemic,
WrestleMania almost has super stereo stereotype, super asterisk next to
all of it, right, like it barely feels real like
that whole. But yeah, like, for the most part, the

(51:12):
women don't get a singles match that has no championship
involved with it. We're lucky if we get all the
women's championships defended at WrestleMania. Speaking of all the women's championships,
just have to talk about the fact that Chelsea Green's
Secret Hervest has a new member. It is Slagent Oh
wait no, is it Agent Sligh or slagent A I

(51:34):
don't know, but Alifier has joined the Secret Harvist. And
what I love about this is that it's not just
another muscle for her. No, this is a tag team
partner for Piper, And now I feel like, yeah, I
love Living Roquelle as the tag team villains with the championships,
but it would take a turn of sorts like Chelsea

(51:55):
Stable with some have to turn face, and it doesn't
like they're going that way. But I really do think
we gotta get the tag titles on Alba, Fire and
Piper and just and give this stable all the gold
in the women's division. Let Chelsea run wild.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Oh my god, she's being fantastic. She's such a fantastic champion.
I'm so glad that they put this title on her
because she is just killing it with it. She's using
it as a prop. It's not her whole identity, like,
she's just using it to really get herself over even more.
And oh, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
So we spoke about it before, but it reminds me
of Kevin Owens when he was the US champion, where
he was like, Okay, so now that I'm the US Champion,
this has to be a different Kevin Owens. The Kevin
Owens as he was champion came with a different entrance,
different gear, different everything. So this is what we're seeing.
She became the United States champion, so now she is
the best representation of the United States possible. She has

(52:44):
her secret Harvist, she has her secret agents, her secret slagence.
So she's she's just and everything she does is money
like they're so good and all these these three women
are have been friends for a while and that chemistry
comes across on air. So I really do love that too.
Sticking with the women's division, more developments in the triple

(53:07):
threat we assume is happening, though we do not know.
We're gonna find out a little more this Monday. The
match has been made. It is official, Rear Ripley versus
EO Sky in a rematch for EO Sky's Women's World
Heavyweight Championship. Bianca bell Air that I'm a recontender will
be this special referee. Now my guess is this match

(53:27):
goes to shit and becomes a triple threat. We saw
Rea Ripley attempt to make it a triple threat by
signing the contract. Of course, that is not how contracts work.
There wasn't even an X for her name. She just
wrote it. She just scribbled her name on the paper.
That is, of course not Danielle you're a notary. Would
this ever get notarized by No?

Speaker 3 (53:48):
No, she couldn't notarize anyway. She would have to have
American identification. She would have to have US identification. Does
she have that?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I don't even Rear Ripley. Yeah, I believe so maybe,
I mean, I could be wrong. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah, you can't just yeah, they wouldn't notize that because
it's not in Yeah, her name's not in it at all.
Her name's not in the contract.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Contract signing would not hold up in court. No, but
rear Ripley does have her chance to get her way
into the match. It's so interesting how we how we
see this shaping up because and it's I always think
it's strange to give us new champions so close to Mania,
because in many ways, Mania does come across as the finale,
and with finale, you expect changes, You expect title, you

(54:30):
expect ends of chapters, you expect new beginnings. But when
eo Sky is fresh off becoming champion and has naturally
and organically become super over despite our fairly rough twenty
twenty four in terms of consistency ever since she dropped
the championship, so but Eosky is super over as as champion,

(54:51):
Rio Ripley is still very over as contender. Bianca bell
Airs been coming across heelish to me, I don't necessarily
know if I'm supposed to see that due to everything
with Naomi and Jade. Really it's to me the fact
that Bianca is just moving past it so quickly, like
she's just moving right on, skipping right onto Riha and EO.
When her two sisters are killing themselves and her and

(55:16):
Jade are clapping at each other on Twitter, Naomi still
coming for her. So it almost seems like you have
unfinished business. You know, maybe maybe I should be seeing
some inner turmoil, but because I'm not, because you're just confident,
cocky and laughing in Rhea's face as she loses her
championship and loses her opportunity to face you in her
dream match, Like you know, all to me, all that

(55:37):
comes across helish, But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So Naomi
and Jade are gonna team up and they're gonna beat
down Bianca Bellair.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
That was not gonna work. That is not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, that's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
What do you think is gonna happen with this match?
Riha and Eo? Do you think it'll go the predictable
way where Bianca just knocks them both out and Adam
Pierce gets pissed crashes out and says that's it. It
is official. Rare Ripa's on the contract.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
That's exactly right, that's exactly what's gonna happen. I'm assuming,
unless if that doesn't happen, Rihea is winning. That's how
I'm going.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Playing hot potato with this champions.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
So wild, which wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's strange, like once again,
like with the new champions, and we saw it again
last week's Street Profits becoming Tagging Champions. Now we have
been guessing for months about the different ways these tag
team Championships could be on the card, with multiman matches,
possibly a ladder match, considering you've got di I why,

(56:35):
you've got Motor City machine guns, you've got pretty deadly,
you've got Street Profits. But once again, it's like, even
if you go ahead and you do that match, and
that's let's not forget Grayson Waller and Austin theory. Uh,
but it's like, even if you do that match, now,
all of a sudden, we're really not expecting a title
change because we just saw it, and we also really
don't want a title change because we want to believe

(56:57):
that this title change means something the street prop It's
earned the championships. This is a new page in the
in the book that is the street profits. So we
want to believe this leads to good things, This is
them getting a push, but it's you know, it's just
so the new champions going into WrestleMania does make it
very weird as we begin to guess where these championships
are going on the card in general.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, I just again this is not Yeah, I don't know,
I'm just very confused.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Critical analysis as always, Danielle.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I'm sorry, I'm just kerfuffle about all this information gathering
for WrestleMania, and I'm just like, what matches are besides
the big ones?

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Like, what else do we have?

Speaker 3 (57:34):
It's just very is this what we're setting up for?
Is this like you were saying with the hot potato changes,
and like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah, No, we definitely need to start getting more matches
set in stone. Hopefully this will be the week it happens. Yeah,
one thing we know it'll be the week that happens.
It'll be the week that Ray Phoenix makes his debut.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Woo.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Interesting that it will be on the SmackDown side, So
they are making an effort, at least for now, to
separate him with his rather Penta Penta competing for the
Icy Championship. As we said on the Ross side, it'll
be interesting to see what they do with Phoenix over
on the SmackDown side. Do they give him a push
that leads to a Mania match? Is this gonna be

(58:14):
a thing where they kind of just give him showcase
matches every week but don't really press play on the
Phoenix push until after Mania. They've been showing us being yetes,
the hype's been getting built for him, But debuting someone
with less than a month build to Mania and so
many matches that they still have to make official that
they have been building too, it seems very weird.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, I just yeah, I don't know what they could
possibly do. They're probably gonna throw him in some wonkey
match for WrestleMania. I feel like he has to be
in WrestleMania now right that they're introducing him so soon
before WrestleMania, So what could.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
The Maybe he wins the Battle Royal on smack though.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
And then does what What the.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Fuck does any of the Battle Royal winners do not a.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Goddamn WrestleMania, Like what, Yeah, No, I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Didn't they do that with bron Breaker last year? Or
while didn't he win the Battle Royal at SmackDown instead
of actually being at WrestleMania that was last year? Did
they even think so?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
I don't know, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
They've been doing it on SmackDown. They don't do the
women's one anymore. They retire that Uterus trophy trophy that
was so dumb. But yeah, I would expect them to
give us the Luca Brothers sooner than later. But this
kind of tells me that they're not really in a rush, unless,
of course, ray PhiX gets beat down by a stable

(59:29):
a relatively early and then Pentas to go protect him
after WrestleMania, when all of a sudden, the draft rule
or the brand split rules are put up in the
air for the draft. When they do that, when everyone
all of a sudden gets the team with each other
and just show up. Yeah, speaking of showing up, who's
showing up April twenty fifth? Might be Alistair Black or
would he be Maleechi Black? Or would he be Serious Black?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
No, it can't be Serious Black. He's dead.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Tyler Black.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
No, he's on wrong, Rebecca Black Black.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Frida Hey Friday, gotta get down on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
A fun fact, I've never heard that song what you're
singing it, but I've never heard it. Like It's one
of those songs that I know of, and I've never
heard it because I hear people sing it, but I've
never like listened to it or heard it on the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Nothing. I've never heard that song, like, I don't know
what her voice sounds like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
It sounds exactly like the pitchy voice I just gave
you spot on Rebecca.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Black's aut right sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
The interesting thing about last night's vignette for Alister Black,
which was the first time we really saw anything more
than smoke and random Roman numerals, we started seeing images.
None of them really look like him. They kind of
resemble a monster. We did see a rattlesnake, we saw
a hand, We saw like the bottom half of a body,

(01:00:45):
which really, if I'm being honest, resembled more of like
Uncle Howdie's body type than it did Alister Black, which
got a lot of people wondering if this has in
fact been Alistair Black vignettes, or has it been the
Wyatt's vignettes. Is this like a new start for them?
Will somehow the uh you know, will somehow these two join?

(01:01:07):
I don't know it. Definitely the vignette from last night
in particular definitely had a bit of a wyat feel
to it, but Alister Black has also kind of always
had those goof feels. And sometimes with w vignettes, they'll
show you images that actually don't have anything to do
with the person. They'll show you a whole last person
and it won't be for that person at all. So
I'd be surprised if maybe in a week or two

(01:01:29):
we don't actually start seeing like his face or his
hair or his body.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
It's gonna be a mis congeniality. April twenty fifth is
my favorite e because it's not too hot. All you
need is a light jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
That's funny. But yeah, April twenty fifth is, of course,
the Friday after WrestleMania, the SmackDown after WrestleMania traditionally one
of the bigger raws and smackdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Where it be?

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Do you know where it's gonna be?

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Of course I don't what you always know where it's
gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Probably gonna be in Vegas now don't they usually stay, No.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
It's gonna be in Vegas. The night before April April eighteenth,
on a Friday, is going to be in Vegas. I
was just curious. Look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
So you're gonna wait for me to start searching, and
then you're gonna start searching, which I'm watching you do right,
fucking hands up?

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Hands up, I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Okay. Dickie's Arena? Where is that?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
I don't know? Can I pick up my phone?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
No, you can't. You have to guess wildly. So Vegas, Colorado,
Dickie's Arena. It's in Texas?

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Oh, Texas?

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Is it in Fort Worth, Texas?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I feel like it would be yes, it is. Yeah,
you get zero points?

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
What I actually get half a point?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I guess you guessed Colorado? But then I said I'm
not a guess. Everything after that is just babbling. Is
somebody who's got the answer wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
But I got to write the second?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
All right? You got half a point?

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
What a great day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
So you know, what do you think of sea? What
are you thinking about? He'll sina, I love He'll sena.
I think he's great, me too.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
He'll see it's so fun it's just first of all,
you could tell he's having a blast.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
He's like, I I only get to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Do this, and you make it so easy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I bet you zero point two percent of him believes
half the shit he's saying. I bet you're like, you
made me invisible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
You say all this dumb shit. It's not funny. It's
not funny. It's never been funny.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
I mean, it's never been funny, but it's funny. Yeah,
I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
It got funny eventually, it got funny eventually.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I like that he's wearing darker clothing because remember we
said he was gonna come out in a suit, but
he is wearing He didn't change much, but his I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Think he was gonna come out of suit. I thought
he was gonna come out in Hawaiian rock styles.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Oh yeah, you definitely said that. You also we also
said sweatpants at one point. But now he's just coming
But because I said dark clothes, but he's coming out
like instead of bright red, it's like maroon, and instead
of like bright blue, it's dark blue or heavy blue
or black.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Yeah. I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I think it's fun Yeah. Oh, I thought the Cody
Sino promo we got this week was just fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Also and right and also the best way for this
to be his last to run is to get those
John Cena suck chants because we've been wanting those for
so long again and they're just fun to change. Even
even as a babyface, we were still chanting it, even
when we hated him, loved him whatever, you still do.
But now you really get behind it when you say
John and it goes with the song so well, I forgot.

(01:04:18):
I haven't heard those chants with the song for so long.
It was like somebody played a nostalgia hit from the
two thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I was like, oh shit, I remember this one right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
So it's just gonna be it's super fun.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, no, I'm really enjoying it, and it's just granted.
I do think we need a little physical contact again.
I mean, Sena beat the shit out of Cody Roads
at Royal Rumble, and Cody has not really tried to
get his look back at all. They've been talking to
each other, so I'd like to I'd like them to
turn it up a little bit. Let's turn up the heat,
let's get a little violence in here. I don't necessarily

(01:04:53):
need the rock back in. But the Rock did instigate this,
heel sena, so there's got to be a and behind
it other than just wanted to piss off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
The people, right, they should at least kiss or something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Of course, maybe Brett Hart and Stone Cold will kiss.
It seems finally going the way of UFC. They are
inducting matches though it's interesting. It looks like this was
I think they called it an immortal moment if I'm
not mistaken. But yeah, the WrestleMania thirteen Classic between Brett

(01:05:24):
Hart and Stone Cold. So he've lost on a submission
match which featured a special referee of Ken Shamrock that
will be going into the WrestleMania Hall of Fame. Rhet
Hart and Stone Cold will be appearing. Ken Shamrock has
not been mentioned, but I'm hoping he gets a shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Do you remember when we read that whole thing about
Ken Shamrock and it just kept getting worse as I
read it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
The greatest story of all time? But time and every
time I see a quote of him saying something stupid nowadays,
which he has known to do, I always just think
about the time he tried to be the hero, he
tried to stop a man from beating up a woman,
and so he punched that man in the face, so
only to realize that man was a woman and he
in fact had become the man beating up the woman.

(01:06:05):
You really can't make this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
It just got worse. We were doing that during our
icy tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Our icy it was Booker t versus Ken Shamra it was,
and we just.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Kept reading it and it just kept getting worse and worse.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
We were like, oh my god. By the way, when
this first got announced, this Brett Hart versus Stone Cold
getting inducted to the Hall of Fame. I read it
quickly and I was like, oh, they're doing matches at
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
And I'm like, Brett Hard and Stone Colder, really can
I have a match? And then I went It was
one of those pauses where I'm like, let's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Reread this, and I was like, Oh, they're in dugging matches, right,
which I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Think is cool. I the only thing I'm thinking about
is the fact that and it's you know, it's it's
not necessarily a bad thing, it's just something I'm expecting.
But because of the fact that the Hall of Fame
ceremony is part of the restumating weekend part of the
restumating festivities because of these Hall of Fame announcements. They
happened on the road to WrestleMania, when everyone is just

(01:07:03):
getting the idea in our heads that WrestleMania will, of
course be the best show of the year, that WrestleMania
is always the best show of the year, and WrestleMania
is such a great time it is an extravaganza. Wrestling
fans do know that it's often not the best show
of the year. When you get to the end of
the year and you're talking about your favorite pay per
views of that year, WrestleMania doesn't always get brought up.

(01:07:24):
When you're talking about the best matches of the year.
WrestleMania matches rarely get brought up. It just happens that way, however,
because once again on the road WrestleMania, WrestleMania has to
be presented as the greatest thing ever, always has been,
always will be. So I do expect most of the
first matches that we get into the Hall of Fame
will be WrestleMania matches. And as I mentioned, we do

(01:07:46):
know that a lot if we go through the list
of our favorite matches most of them never happened on
a WrestleMania but there are also a ton of great
WrestleMania matches, so that will be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Do do you do the people in the match now
get WrestleMania I mean fame rings?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think this will be Brett Hart's
third ring.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Wow. Imagine they just get like a plaque with a little.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Maybe maybe they don't give them a ring. Maybe they
do give hi plaue. It's possible. I mean I'm really
just guessing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Or they give them an actual ring.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I mean, they clearly have a ring guy, so it's like,
why not just ordered two more?

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Yeah? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
This is fun.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
What match do you want to see going to the
Hall of Fame? That's that's definitely going in.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
I mean that that's like my favorite. I think that's
my favorite WrestleMania match.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Honestly, there's a good chance that goes in next year. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
I mean that's assuming.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
They're doing one match a year. There's a very good
chance that goes in next year.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Yeah, Like, I'm surprised that didn't go in first.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
To be honest, well, I might be biased because that's
my favorite match, one of my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Yeah, maybe maybe they wanted to keep it light, so
going with two people that are alive for the first
one as opposed to doing a posthumous Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
I love that fucking match. That match is so good.
So yeah, that match? What about you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Obviously Molina versus Alicia Fox was that wres No? Absolutely? So?

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Oh well, then it has to be it has to
be what's his name?

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Floyd Mayweather and Big Show?

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Right? Oh God Jesus Christ, No, what would be your match?

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
For real? There's so many. Seawan Michaels and and Undertaker
will probably.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Be the first few that come to mind. Do sadly
have Chris Benwah on them?

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Uh? God, I know, I know there's a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Great There was a great one. I think it was
Los Guerrero's uh Shelton and Charlie and maybe ben Wan
Kurt Angle. I want to say it was like a
great one Rhino and ben wa Maybe that was the
team and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Had some pretty good ones, yea, had.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Some awesome ones. Yeah. Also, I mean, let's see what
wrestle Mania match would I want to go in.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
There's so many.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I feel like Sean Michaels, I feel like Sewan Michael's
stone cold and bred Hart are going to be in
a lot of them, like just a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
The Rock, the Rock obviously will be in some. I
think The Rock stone Cold they'll probably put like all
three read Kane versus Kane, the Rock. Hogan will eventually
get in.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
That'll definitely going the Rocking Up Hulk, Hogan and Andre
will probably go in there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Because it's so like Undertaker is gonna have a lot
of ones. Undertaker with Flair, Undertaker, HBK right right, yeah,
maybe even Undertaker Pray. Yeah, they're gonna I wonder if
they start doing more than one match, because I mean
there's so many, so they could easily bang out to
per if they wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Yeah, but Wressell Maintown, I think I'm gonna watch that
match today.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Ooh, fun for you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I haven't watched WrestleManias in a while. Remember I was
doing I started from the beginning, and each time I
work WrestleMania, I forgot what WrestleMania was. I want to
say it's WrestleMania six, like of that roster is dead.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
It was like eerie Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Yeah, it was like a very eerie thing where I'm
like none of these people are alive.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Like it was very eerie to watch. But yeah, I
love all this. I think this is the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Fun way of introducing something more fun. I think they
should have more women in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Oh, you know what, you know what's gonna go in? Uh?
Once Christian and Edge leave a w they'll put Dudley's, Oh,
Hardy's edging Christian, they'll put well, they'll put those matches
in there for sure. Wrestling Seth will probably get something.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Seth and Roman will get a match eventually too, in there, right, Seth.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
And Roman, Yeah, I mean Roman Roman, definitely, they'll they'll
just start probably Roman and Cody.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
It'll probably it will probably be Roman and Triple Eh
at WrestleMania thirty two where they both laid down on
the match for thirty minutes before they got up and
started attacking each other again. And I got up, went
to the bathroom, came back and they were still laying
on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Daniel Bryan, Uh, Daniel Bryan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll go
in probably the Ale Kurt angle Shawn Michaels one of
the most underrated WrestleMania matches.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
I think Sean Michaels is going to be in there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
A lot oh and Shawn Michaels Chris Jericho that was
a WrestleMania again.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
Is this going to be only WrestleMania matches once again?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I feel like the first bunch they put in will
be WrestleMania matches because of the illusion that WrestleMania is
where the best matches happen. Eventually they'll start giving us
other ones. But I do think the first five at
least will be all wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Right because I I'm not gonna lie Baily versus Sasha Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
God, Yeah, that's one of the best women's matches I've
ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Has to go in if they're if they're not just
specifically doing WrestleMania, it has to go in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
And that's also where you get into the area of like, okay,
well now Mercedes relationship with w WB effects that match
going in, and these are the things that make people
eventually start rolling their eyes at Hall of Fame inductions
when yeah, Michelle McCool, happy for her, But then you're
kind of like, why is in Victoria and yet why
isn't a j Lee? And yet is Gail Kim ever

(01:12:34):
going to get acknowledged by them? So yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
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Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
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