Episode 277 - WrestleMania Predictions! - Heel Marks: A Wrestling Podcast

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We are getting closer and closer to WrestleMania. To get there,
we had to go through an AEW pay per view dynasty.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
We just happened.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
We're gonna get into that. We've also got some championship matches,
some announced big matches before WrestleMania.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
There's also an entire NXT pay per view or pl
E before.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
WrestleMania Danielle is getting ready to go to Vegas. Yeah,
she's bringing uh five years worth of friendship bracelets along
with her.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Five years. I feel like she could five years to
make them. I made about one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
She could clothe the wrists and the ankles of all
of Nick Cannon's children and the future children that they
may sire.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, that's one hundred per accurate. That's acurate.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
All the cousins, all the nieces, nephews, aunts and uncles,
everybody in the entire Canon family, with everyone in the Kardashians,
they could all have their ankles and wrists covered with
Danielle's friendship bracelets.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Well, hopefully I'll be able to hand out a lot
of them. I made a lot of fun ones. I
made a lot of Yeah, I made a lot of
let's go Sina, Sina sucks. Because I feel like that's
going to be the winner of handing out.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Gonna be the fun, the fun one of just like
chanting and being silly.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I think Yeat's going to be your most popular.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I think people are like if if if I don't
know how you're gonna do it, but if for some
reason Let's say they see you've got a bag in
your hand of just a bunch of you know, maybe
you're using your clear uh Fannie pack that you like
to take too shows.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, right, so they see that.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
And let's just also say it's a child maybe that
you're giving it to, or a parent for a child.
I could see maybe a request being thrown your way
of Oh, well, do you have insert wrestler here? And
I think rear Ripley and Jay Usso will probably be
your most requested.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Yeah, those those I made a lot of. I made
a lot of Cody cm Punk. I made a bunch
of them.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Unless, of course, unless, of course you and counter parents
that do not supervise their children, of which case dominic
mysterio will be the popular request because these kids are
running around getting using choosing the row row model solely because.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Chicken nuggets happen to be their favorite food at the time.
As well.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I think my.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
Goal is to just wear like one of each wrestler
I have on my wrists or two and then just
hand them out. Imagine I get to fucking Imagine, I
get to fucking Bayet like the stadium, and they're like,
you can't bring these in. I would be so pissed.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
Wait, why would they say, I know, maybe because maybe
because they see like you'd have to put them all
on your body.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Yeah, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like dev
give me your uh, I'm gonna be like deb give
me your wrist because we're stacking them up on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Come on, let's go right.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Because I have them in in individual bags per wrestler,
so it's a little bit easier for me to navigate.
But yeah, I could just say, you know what it is,
I have PTSD from Hammerstein because Hammerstein Ballroom they take
everything away from you, Like I I didn't even bring
that many stickers once I had heal mark stickers and
I didn't even have that many, and they were like,
you can't bring it stickers. And then like I had chocolate,

(04:08):
like you know the McDonald's chocolate that the kids sell.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I had like two of those. They wouldn't let me
bring that in, and I was like, I literally just
came from work.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
I can't Like they're like, you have to leave it
out here and they just put it on a step.
So I think I'm traumatized from that where I always
think they're not gonna let me in with stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, you never really know.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Like I almost feel like with this many people like
it's a crapshoot, whether they're just gonna one hundred percent
go buy the book because it's so easy for something
to go wrong if they are lenient.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
At the security station.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
But at the same time, maybe with so many families
and kids and you're not trying to stress everyone, you
just kind of like, Okay, you look fine, I.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Don't feel a gun. All right, get yours in there,
have a good time, don't put stickers on the walls.
We know who did it.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
They might ease up because I'll have a clear bag
because I'm so used to going to stadium, so like
they like that when they see a clear bag, they're like, oh,
I don't have to go through this.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
So I think maybe.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Also with while it's unlikely you intended it that way,
vandalism easily happened with that friendship bracelets.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
What are you possibly gonna do?

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yeah, just like the worst case that happens is somebody
destroys the bracelet part and then all your beads just
go flying, right, But that would have to be you'd
have to be like, maybe an Eagles fan just going
there to start trouble like that would really be the
only way that would happen, right, Yes, Eagles fans, you're
getting hit with strays?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, you are.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Well, hopefully, you know, hopefully it's gonna be a good
time handing bracelets out to people and just you know,
meeting a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, guys, if you or any children in your vicinity
of life are interested in wrestling related friendship bracelets, be
on the lookout for Danielle.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Also make sure to follow her at Yay Friendship Bracelets on.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
The Insta grizzle otherwise known as Instagram. Uh and and
be on the lookout for your your friendship bracelets.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, I'm just gonna start chucking them my people's head. No,
I'm just kidding. I'm gonna hand them out.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
You you don't chuck them at their head. But if
you ever see somebody with the finger up acknowledging rome
when rains, you should totally try to throw it on
there and get it on that fan.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
That would be epic.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
That's a big thing I'm trying to do too, Like
if someone's dress because I feel like a lot of
people are gonna look like jaysuso, so that'll be fun
to like give them bracelets and stuff. I'm just afraid
I'm gonna get bombarded with children at one point and
then they're all gonna want there's gonna be like ten
of them and they all want bracelets. I'm gonna be like,
you're stealing all my bracelets, even though I'm handled.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
I mean, I'm like, I could see that happening, But
I also feel like that would be fun for you
as somebody who made them. Yeah, Like you'll get overwhelmed
for half a second and then when you're done, you're like,
oh shit, yeah it's cool.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
I have some that I only have like one or
two of, So I'm like on the lookout for someone
who's like maybe cosplaying as that as that wrestler, and then.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Ah, that's gonna be good. Yeah, the cost players are
gonna love yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah, So that's a big one that I'm looking for too.
Because I made my cosplay, I made a bunch of
I made extra ones for my cosplay because you know,
I'm ripping, so I gotta have.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
A lot of Yeah that'll complete the look.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
But seriously, I'm not even joking. I just got myself
excited about it, so.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I'm gonna repeat it to you.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Please, every time you see someone put a finger up
for any member of the Blood, you you have to
try and if you can get deb to record it,
because if you record a win or miss, that's just
gonna be hilarious for me a while when I'm stuck
in New York not at this WrestleMania, I would love entertainment.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
And you.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
At people's fingers and faces as they attempt to acknowledge
their tribal chief.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I can't think of anything funnier. So yes, please, pretty
please your co host would like it.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yeah, guys, before we move on to the road to
wrestle Mania, which we have not escaped from and will
not escape until after next weekend, aew dynasty did come.
It did deliver in many ways. Uh, it's certainly played
with our emotions in many ways as well. Let's get

(07:50):
into the meat and potatoes of it. Danielle, you hate
triple threat matches, but I think there's an argument that
this might have been one of the best, if not
the best triple threat match any of us have ever seen.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Agreed, disagree, agreed, I'm not gonna say it's one of
the best, but I'm not gonna say it's the best,
but it's definitely of the best.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
One thing that I liked about this triple threat match
is one thing I always hate about triple threat matches
is there's always that one that's like not doing anything,
and I didn't feel that was the case in this match.
Everybody played their parts significantly, like they would team up
together sometime, you know, when Ricochet was running his mouth.
There was always stuff going on, like everybody played their
part well. And I think that's a big thing that
I don't like about triple threat matches is there's always

(08:32):
one person not doing anything or hanging by the apron
the entire match, and that infuriates me. So like, this
was perfectly done in my opinion, and all three of
these things are so strong.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
I think the modern triple threats, I don't want to
say AW over WWE. I think kind of as a nature,
most triple threats, especially in AW actually I'll say that
have changed in that it'll probably be the same thing.
And if you went back and inspected this match, you'd
probably see plenty of points where they did get it
to two guys by doing this or that. But the
difference is, and I think it's especially prevalent in this match.

(09:05):
The spot that will take out one guy for an
extent period of time is a big spot that justifiably
somebody should be down for. Like maybe they'll bust out
a huge spot that theoretically could you could see someone
being down for three four and so like when when that.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Kind of happens.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
When Kenny does a big match a big move to ricochet,
then Mike Bailey comes out of nowhere does a big
mood ricochet, then they both do a move to ricochet.
You're kind of like, okay, Ricochet is going to be
out for a minute. But it's okay because you just
got boom boom electricity. And this match was excellent at
doing that, where just the action was non stop and
just picture perfect.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
It was so fun. It was just a fun match
to watch. All the components were so well executed. I mean,
I wasn't even mad that Mike Bailey wasn't wearing shoes,
and you know I always yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I mean, well, listen, he just won one hundred K,
which he did tell the a W viewing audience. He's
getting himself some shoes, and I believe I just saw
a video recently.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I think he posted on Instagram or something where he
he was video recording himself.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Looking up shoes online and like seeing which kind of
shoes he would buy. So I think I think Speedball
might be getting some kicks.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
That'd be amazing. Then he'd be my number one watch.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
He's gonna wrestle in crocs.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
That's probably difficult to do, right, I.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Would think they wouldn't stay on and then you know
he would. He would jewel them all up with like
different sparkles and stuff, and then they'd come up every
and kiss someone.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, that'd be a horrible idea.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, I don't all this match.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
We we did figure Kenny Omega would not be dropping
his championship anytime soon. However, now we have to wonder
what next because Kenny Omega was surprised by an old rival,
an old foe. It was none other than Yeah Omega
and Okada. Already that's with them both being champions at

(11:00):
this moment. I don't know what that gets us.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I don't know what that gets us, but I am
all for it.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
Whatever it is, I'm with it, Like this is a
rivalry We absolutely love. This is a This is a
Kevin Owens and Sammy's name rival. This is a rival
fucking that you just want all the time.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'm excited. I don't know who to root for, though,
that's always my problem. Who do I root for? I
have to?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I mean, it depends on what Okada wears. If he's
showing goes, you know me.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
So well, if he's wearing those those shorts and showing
those thighs, I gotta root for him, right, you.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Can't, you can't escape it.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
But if he comes in with the pants out of nowhere,
You're like, all, fuck this guy, Kenny kick him in
the head.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Imagine Kenny. Imagine Kenny comes in with shorts. I wouldn't
know what to do, right, I'd be confused. It'd be
a Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
We got Tony Storm coming out on.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Top, victorious again against the Monster Megan Baine. Fantastic showing
for both. Megan Bane really the great job of coming
off as a monster, as the giant, as a beast.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Tony Storm was just better this night for the three
seconds required.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Right, Yeah, this this match was so good. Meghan Bane
is so good to watch too. But Tony Storm, we
talked about that last time. How like certain like Tony
dropped the drop the ball with some guys in n XT,
but w W really dropped the ball with Tony.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
She's just killing it.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
She. I love that.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
I love that she came out in Rocky like a boxer,
like old school everything about her, like just watching her wrestle,
watching her gimmick.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, I love that. I love that her.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
And and Luther was also playing the part of the
Mickey and like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
It's so good.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah, I love everything about it. It's just fantastic. And
Megan Baine is a force to be reckoned with.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
She's so good too. Yeah. Yeah, this match was so fun.
It was a really great match. I'm never disappointed in
a Tony Storm match.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
And yeah, I'm curious where we go with Megan Baine,
only because while they've slotted her on the heel side
and use Penelo before to help her get a little
more heel heat, the truth is it's very easy to
want to cheer for somebody like her, where you know,
your traditional heel is somebody who needs to cheat, who
wants to cheat, who's gonna run away from a fight.

(13:13):
Megan Bain is scared of no person and will probably
get in Tony Storm's face willingly again and again and again.
But I could see her maybe switch her attention to
the TVs Championship now right, and then that would most
likely see her switching, unless, of course, Mercedes was to
lose to somebody else.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
But I feel sometimes where AW loses me, somebody comes
in that's so popular and you're like, Okay, they're gonna
have to put gold on them eventually, but I feel
like then it just has to be a thing where
they're putting gold on them, you know what I mean.
Like I don't want to say rushed, but like the
minute they come in, you're like, oh, yeah, this person's
gonna get a title match, or this person's gonna get
the title.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
And it's just I don't know. Sometimes it doesn't it
doesn't flow well for me, and I feel like it's
a little.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
You think Megan got this too soon.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
No, I don't think that.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
It's just it's just a normal thing that AW does,
like anybody that comes in popular, like and I'm not
taking that away from Megan because she should be in
a title match because she's a monster, But I'm just
saying I feel like this is what aw always does interesting.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
I mean, well, with Kevin Knight, we saw him get
eliminated from the owner at least lose that first round.
So not exactly with everyone, but I do understand what
you're saying. I see that as a trend. Let's talk
about the Trios Championship match death Riders did defend, did retain,
But that is, not, of course, the talking point. The

(14:32):
talking point is what happened afterwards, because we have rated
ft R ip with as. As we mentioned last week,
we talked about a possibility. I kind of threw it
in a's like they might.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Go New Day route where they've been teasing.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Us with the FTR split, but then they'll both say, Nope,
we're staying together. You're just gonna hate us because fuck
this guy. And that's exactly Adam Copeland. Cope got the
fuck this guy true treatment from FTR.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Poor guy, poor poor guy. I'm not I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
I loved it. I loved it. I mean in the turn,
I love thee.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh, I love the turn.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
I thought the turn was great, and it's like, oh,
where I'm gonna give you a reason of boomy.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, I love this turn.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
The way he did it where it looked where he
was like, you have to join me, and he's like, nah,
fuck that why you do that? Pushes him down, helps
edge up, and then you see him behind him like wait,
is he gonna hit him? Oh nope, they are still together,
and then pulls them in, comes in for the big
I loved it.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
It was perfect.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
It was beautiful storytelling man, and.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Then even decks at the end kind of losing his
mind like fuck fuck and then hitting him again with
the concerto like you. I love that with heel turns,
especially when it's like someone where you're playing on their
turning their back on a friend, brother, or YadA YadA.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
I want to.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
See the fact that you just snapped. I want to
see that there are voices in your head like that.
I want to see your overcome with emotion. You don't
know what's going on, but right now the rage is
taken over and you're mad at this person for making
you do this. Like that's what I love seeing on
a fresh heel turn.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Yeah, I love seeing that too. I love like this
the breaking point. That's the fun thing of watching a
heel when they're at their breaking point and they just
like lose their minds.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Everyone loses lose their mind, yes, exactly. So I'm looking
forward to seeing where this goes. Unfortunately, like and this
is just you know, I guess this is the glass
half half empty motherfucker in me. But I can't help
roll my eyes at the fact that, because you know,
obviously we look into the future to see where we

(16:33):
think it's going. And where I think this is going
is that the ae W had Christian fail his cash
in completely threw away what was the most hated villain
in ae W, possibly in all of Aw's creations, the
Christian father figure was probably possibly number one.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yet we threw away his cash In.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
We threw away the potential of what that World Heavyweight
championshiprain could have looked like could have been. We threw
away that character and all the heat that goes with it,
solely so that we can get an edge in Christian
Reunion against FTR, which just sounds like we're going off
of the Edge wrestling wish list, which is fine. I
have to say he doesn't deserve it. But I rolled

(17:18):
my eyes at the way we got here, you know
what I mean a little bit, a little bit, I'm sure,
I'm sure they'll win me.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Over at some point.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
I'm sure it'll be epic to see Edge and Christian
hug and do a pose or whatever fun comes with it.
But it is hard for me to ignore everything they
threw away to get here right now, like his Edge
leaving in six months. Is that why we're getting this
out of the way now, because because timing wise, I
don't really see it.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah I don't, that's me. Yeah, yeah, it's a little
I don't know, it's a little weird, like the.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Way they got there right right, and speaking of like
things like that, they definitely lost me with this main event.
You you kind of saw this coming because as me
and you were texting each other, you did say, and
this was before the main events during the night, you said,
I don't think Swerve is winning, and I was saying
that it was like and it wasn't even I was saying.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I didn't believe you.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I didn't want to believe right, because those fucking fans
were there to see Swerve win. And it's rare that
you can duplicate the same type of excitement that was
in the air the night Swerve initially won the championship,
where you knew you were coming to see something special
they had built up to.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
It had to happen.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
They had done a great job of duplicating that feeling.
That feeling was in that arena.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
I will say, if I remember correctly, you talked me
out of picking Swerve for my pick for our predictions.
You were like talking and you went in a circle
and I was like nope. I was like John Moxley's winning.
I was like no, because I picked him to win.
I mean, I didn't want to pick him to win
because I want Swerve to win. And like, like you said,
I feel like the air got sucked out of the
room when John Moxley won, because like, I'm not really

(18:58):
a fan of this title run. It's whatever, and I
just feel like it's getting a little stale. And I
feel like having a new champ, especially Swerve, that people
are so behind, it would have been perfect.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
And I feel like the setup.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
For the Young Bucks was kind of stupid and like
nobody was happy with that. I feel like the ending
just drained the energy out of the room.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
No, people were pissed, and it's not just because they
wanted to see Swerve win, right. I think if Swerve
lost by the way, you know, with Young Bucks coming
back and costing them that. If you did it like
that but you didn't have Hangman come in and actually
help Swerve, then I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
It would have been that much.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Granted, they still would have been pissed, they still would
have been complaining, they still wouldn't have been happy, but
that would have just been one less thing they had
to throw in. I'm like because the fact is that
they did waste that, Like they got us right for
it the Dynamite before that show, but they didn't have
to deliver on this Dynasty pay per view if they
were doing it this way. The problem is, why would

(19:57):
they do that? Why would they waste Hangman helping Swerve
if swear was gonna win? Oh, well, that's because they
don't want Swerve to win. They convinced us that Swerve
was going to become champion.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Swerve will not.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
If I had a guess right now, I'd say Will
Ospray's probably the guy that puts the end to the
Death Raider rain Death Rider Rainy. But they sold the
fans on it the fact that it should be Swerved,
and now they're setting the fans up for Swerve and
Hangman's a team up against the Young Bucks, which I mean,
I don't know, good luck good luck. But if I'm
the fans, especially the fans that got their hopes up

(20:30):
that Swerve would once again get a meaningful rain, because
oh shit, Swerve is the perfect person to rid us
of this John Moxley death Rider problem. And then now
we're settling for like you know what I mean, Like,
it's just you're now taking us into a place they
didn't want to go. They didn't necessarily want to see
Swerve and Hangman team up this soon, and for what

(20:50):
the fucking Young Bucks.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Yeah, and death Rider is the perfect name for this
rain for John Moxley because he's going to riding us
straight into death and to the ground.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, Like, the fans have been tired of this title reign.
And the truth is the fans, the fans were tired
of the Bucks and like not even the Bucks, but
like this new Bucks, like the characters they are, and
when they left, you kind of thought, Okay, they're gonna
come back fresh, right If they come back doing anything different,
the fans are gonna buy it and it's gonna be cool.

(21:19):
But they come back doing the exact same thing that
it wasn't even the fans being tired of. I just
don't think the fans liked it. I don't think they
enjoyed it, and I think they eventually got tired of
it because it was like, you're not giving me what
I want from you.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
And and now here we are on the same page,
same chapter. So certainly interesting to see where they take
us here and if they ignore the fans truly rejecting
the ending of this pay per view.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
Right right, Yeah, you just felt the energy, like everybody
was excited. They're like, oh oh it blacked out.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Who's coming?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
And it's like, oh.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Aw, does this a lot too?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Where they have phenomenal shows and we're talking like twelve
fucking matches, So it takes a lot for us to
going into the main event still be like, okay, this
has been a great match.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Here we go main event time.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
And I remember telling you it was like, Swerve is
the reason these fans aren't tired right now, because these
fans came for this. They came for Swerve. They're like,
oh my god, you guys have given us a phenomenal
amount of wrestling. All you need to do is give
us the main event we paid for. We paid for
Swerve to be crowned our champion. Yet again, all you
have to do is deliver. And is it always fair

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for these fans to come in with like all we
want is our baby face to end the show and
we'll be happy. Like, no, sometimes the villains have to prevail,
but you have to give it to them in a
way where they don't feel like they just got hoodwinked
and emotionally manipulated. And I feel like I feel like
that's how the fans left feeling emotionally manipulated and like,
oh my god, they got us again.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
When when stuff like this happens, And I know I
try very hard not to compare it to WWE sometimes.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
But it's there because w DOWE has been our wrestling
product forever. This makes me think of brockl and Roman
Rings at every fucking WrestleMania where everyone was just getting
upset and like there'd be a good WrestleMania and then
brock Lesnar retains.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
And everybody's just the energy's.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Out of the room and it's like, this is what
I feel like, and it's like, what not not comparing
John Boxley to fucking brock Lezar comparing the the energy
gang stucked out of the room when the fans are
so for these wrestlers, and it's like, not a fun
way to end such a good paper.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
In my opinion, this was a great pay per view,
and most people agreed.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Yeah, and you anywhere on social network, every social media,
everybody was like.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
This was a great paper.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
This is this is an aw trent where their main
event ending just just takes the wind out of their
sales and it's just like it's all anyone could talk about,
and it's like, you did everything right, but this last thing,
and it's why a common conversation is should this have
been the main event? And it's like when every time
when you're doing the right thing, you're putting your World
Championship in the main event, and every single time someone's

(23:55):
making excuses to why I'm at shouldn't have been because
you did this, because you did that. It's kind of like,
all right, you have to look at the fact like
you're you're booking it wrong, right, uh yeah. But from
that we go on to the road to WrestleMania. We
go to Danielle's next weekend planning because she'll be at

(24:15):
all these shows NXT stand Deliver as well.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
Right, I'm gonna be an NXT stand deliver. I'm gonna
be at WrestleMania both nights. I'm going to be a
blood sport to watch Natty well, not specifically her, but
she will be there, and I'm gonna get Joey Janella Spring.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
It's gonna be a fun, fun, ext fun.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
It's fun.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, You're gonna be exhausted and I love it.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
And this isn't even that many matches like I went
to I think in twenty seventeen when I went to Orlando,
I went to nine matches, nine shows, like one show.
I stayed there all day with them too, ja like
all day. So this is like timid for me. So like,
but I'm Saturday. Saturday NXT starts at nine thirty in
the morning and then it goes there's like a little

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tiny break and then you go straight into WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
It's insane. I was like, I prefer to them to
do it Friday morning.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
I'm gonna need con pictures and constant videos of the
entertainment that is coming into your vicinity the entire time
you're there.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I will try my very best.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Like it's gonna be Vegas. There's gonna be crazy people.
I'm gonna need you to showcase those crazy people to me, right.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
And what's gonna be very very exciting is next year
is gonna be New Orleans and that's gonna be fun.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
And that's yes, that's I can't wait. That's gonna be
so fun.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
All right.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Before we go to NXC stand and deliver, we have
to get to NX etend deliver. There are a couple
qualifying matches, so we're going in a little half cocked
with our predictions.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Here.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
We have to predict, hopefully we predict accurately who's gonna
face Ricky Saints here for this North American Championship. But
if we guess wrong, then it all goes to shit.
But our number of contenders match will be Wesley versus
Eddie Thorpe versus Ethon Page versus Lexus King. I still
think I've been making this prediction quite often on the

(25:57):
road to Wrestleming is sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong.
I think there's a good chance this match somehow gets
thrown away and Ricky has to defend against all of
them a lot because it is NXC standard deliver, And
it's like, like, why wouldn't you want to get all
four of these guys that you've been dedicating TV time
to the entire year, of most of which who have
been former champions in some form? Why would you not

(26:19):
take the advantage to get them all on the card
so I could see it's going in that direction for
the sake of this match, why don't you go first? Actually, Danielle,
who you think is gonna be a never contender? Just
so I can hear you say.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
It, Jes, so you can hear me say who you
know I'm gonna pick exactly, I'm picking Page.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Of course I got it.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
I gotta pickthan Page. He was the one who like
it just makes sense. No, I'm not gonna lie any
of these guys I'd be totally fine having a match against.
But this is a mixture like WrestleMania Weekend. It's gonna
be Ethan Page.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
I think, Yeah, that's kind of my pick. Also, anything
else would be a surprise.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
And a fun surprise, not a bad surprise.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Right, a fun one.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
It don't feel like because they already kind of got
us started on the Ethan Page versus Ricky Saints train
or trail rather, it seems like that would be most
logical either way. I'm gonna go with Ricky Saints to
walk out still North American Champion, whether he defends against
any one of these guys or whether he defends against

(27:20):
all four. I think it's just way too soon to
take that title off.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Agree whoever, whoever Ricky faces defeating.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Yeah, this next one's gonna be just as difficult for
us to call, because once again we are playing guess
a guessing game. There are for this ladder match to
determine the new women's North American Champion. We've got Izzy Dame,
Kalani Jordan's Soul, Ruka Zaria, and two women that are
gonna be named later. We don't even know what the
qualifying matches or or or how we're getting these women

(27:51):
is going to be. We know that the women from
Metaphor want to get in there.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
We know that rock San wants to get in there,
JC Jane, her friends, they all want to get in
there as well.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
So it could be it could be anyone. It could
be anyone.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Danielle, do you want to get us started with who
you think could could win this match.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Who I think winning this If?

Speaker 6 (28:16):
If Rock San Perez is one of the two, I
think rox And Perez is gonna take. If Roxane Perez
is not one of them, I think Klanie Jordan take interesting.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
So I feel like Roxanne might be one of the two,
but I don't think she's winning. And the fact that
they randomly used her for SmackDown yesterday and gave her
a match with the champion, Tiffany Stratton, I mean, this
is something that w likes to randomly do with people
that are about to get drafted, and after WrestleMania we
sometimes WrestleMania, they just have NXT people show up on

(28:48):
ron SmackDown and say I'm here, and then sometimes we
wait for the draft. Either way, I think Roxanne is
main roster bound and so because of that, I do
not think she'll be our new North American Champion.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I feel like what they're going to do is let
her be North American Champion and then she gets called
up and then she has to drop it because they're being.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Very again they do so stupid.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
I think that if the winner will be somebody that
one of the two remaining to be announced, I think
it'll probably be lash Legend, but it's like, even with that,
I don't actually think that's happened because I think Metaphor,
I think both of them will get called up to
the main roster as a much needed edition of an actual,
you know, women's tact and that's been around forever. Have

(29:31):
a Look, have a Vibe, have finishers. I think they
move up and join the time dish on the main roster.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
M right.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
So so I don't know if they go the route
of a lash Legend singles push. I'd say Zaria makes
the most sense here, as in, like when Stephanie, Julia
and Zari got here, it really felt like the fans
attacks themselves to all three. All three have been getting
their own significant pushes kind of towards this direction. The

(29:58):
only thing is Zari and sol Ruka have been a
great tag team. Yes, and as I said, a kind
of thing. Metaphor is going to depart NXT, And despite
NXT no longer having a women's tag team division, they
still like having web women's tag teams get pushed in
that direction. Maybe maybe sol Ruga wins and Zaria turns
on her and they just say fuck this team. I

(30:19):
don't know, it's so it's so tough for me to
call I like your pick up cal Anie Jordan because
she almost seems it reminds me of last time, where
like she was a surprise when she initially won, but
now it almost feels like maybe it's time for her
to just get that title back because there's been so
much going on between then and now.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
I have no idea who you're picking, And I'm like,
oh no, wait, that's not it.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
This is what I do.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with soul Ruka for this one.
Just go with the surprise. I think Zaria turns on her,
and why would she turn on her.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
If she won? So uh so yeah, let's go soul
Ruga with the surprise win.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Even if there's two people announced, you think.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
There's going to be two people in.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Now, even with anybody, I.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Mean, unless unless that person happens to be somebody that
we barely knew was working with w w B, like
a new, a new indie woman's wrestler that you know
that just shows up and to tear shit down. But
if it is somebody from the NXT roster, I'd be
surprised if it.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Was one of them. The fuck do I know that? Right.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Let's go into the Women's Championship match, Stephanie versus Julia
versus Jada Parker versus Jordan Grace. This one's surprising to
me only because I, like, I kind of expected Julia
to somehow get in the North American Championship Ladder match, Like,
even though I understood she lost the World Championship to

(31:42):
Stephanie and now she's back, so it makes sense for
her to go after that. I kind of thought they
would just do that, especially since the whole Julia Stephanie
switching titles, vacating titles, that whole thing was just weird
and we still don't really know what happened or why. Like,
even if Julia was really hurt, she was back like
a month later, so yeah, and it's like, if she

(32:02):
was hurt, were you really gonna have her drop it
in a badass match?

Speaker 4 (32:07):
They weren't holding back.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
It's not like the match was done in a way
that was protecting a particular injury. And then she comes
back a month, so the whole thing just seemed weird.
It almost seems like you wanted them to switch titles,
but no, Julia's still after this title which makes me
think maybe Julia is getting it back. Jada Parker being
in there is setting me up for the dark horse
win for her where where none of us take her

(32:28):
seriously in this She's probably the one that the fewest
people think is gonna actually win, and this is really
more of just an opportunity behind the scenes to see, Hey,
can she survive in the main events scene? Can she
carry herself in the main events scene? Can she hold
her own with all these great talents that have been
doing it longer than her, which almost makes me think
maybe she is gonna win. Jordan Grace, we obviously all

(32:51):
want to win, you know, the Jugger not coming in.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
We've been wanting this since wherever.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It's like, if she's gonna be an NXT and that
man Roster, might as well give her that title. And
at the same time, it feels like just yesterday that
Stephanie got this title. So if it isn't clear, I
am torn.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, you're Nally and Brulia here, man.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Let's go with Stephanie to retain.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
I'm going with Stephanie to routine because she just got
this title and had to drop the North American so
it would be silly for her to drop this already,
and I don't think they're moving her up to the
main roster just yet, so I think she's retaining.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yeah, that's the thing about it also, where it's like
we don't like with NXT, it still is kind of
if somebody loses, it's not necessarily them falling down the card.
They could be moving past the whole ladder and on
to the next one, like this could easily be eyes
for them to see. You know, maybe this is the
last time we see Jordan Grace nxten.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
She moves up soon too. Maybe Jada Parker moves up soon.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
She's been in NXT a while, so yeah, it's maybe
this sets up for a Julia Heel turn because they
have kind of established that Stephanie.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
And Julia like each other. Maybe Jordan Grace turns heel.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
I could see NXT wanting to see her as a
dad ass before they move her up.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
I think Stephanie's a little little too soon to drop
that title. We got to stay committed to her.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Is it too soon to drop Obafemi's title? Though?

Speaker 5 (34:07):
We'll find out when he defends it against Javon Evans
and Trick Williams. NXT Championship scene has been a mess
as these three guys all want it, and then you've
got Dark State in the background.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Dark State's so silly. I don't know why I like them,
but they're very silly. I mean, I like them, They're fine,
They're just silly to me. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
There's just something about them that makes me like laugh
when I see them.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
I feel like they're just like boys called that's because
you think you think of retribution.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
No, no, I feel like these are just boys starting trouble.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Boys starting trouble.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
How disrespectful specifically boys not men. Yeah, I don't know
what it is. There's just something about them that I
find silly.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I can't, I can't.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
I like them. I like that.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I think I think them they're just silly.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Fair enough, well, I think these silly boys, as you've
called them, will play a part in this championship match.
The fact that that's threat does mean, of course it's
no DQ.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
There are no rules.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
These guys can essentially determine the winner if they wanted to,
and I think that's exactly what's gonna happen. Despite the
fact that they have taken.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Out all three of these men. I believe it will
be revealed that Trick Williams has been the secret leader
the entire time. The only time Trick Williams was beaten
down by Dark State was on what day, that's right,
April Fool's Day.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
So Trick Williams will become our NX champion again as
a heel with help from his creation, the Dark State stable.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Trick Williams played a trick on April fools Day.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Ah, it was in front of us the whole time.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
I feel like we need to make you an aluminum
foil hat and you need to wear it when you
say stuff like this.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I just feel like it.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Only only if it's clear on top so I can
still show off the ball d I want it to.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Be more of like you just halo okay, like Jesus,
like what his wasn't made out about luminum?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I mean, so you think Trick Williams is gonna be champed?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I do see.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I'm torn with this.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
I'm nally and Brulia because I feel like Obemi is
gonna rotain, but I feel like they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Move him up soon because he's just so dominant. But
I'm scared for him to move up. So I just
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
It would be fun if Javon Evans turned out to
be the leader of fucking Dark Say, that would be hilarious.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
It's funny because I've always felt there was a great
heel in Javon Evans waiting to come out. Yeah, And
it's like, if you do go with Javon Evans as
the heel, that could potentially reinvigorate the love for Trick Williams,
not that it's not still there, but the days of
me waiting for the main roster to get him so

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that we could hear Arena's scream Whoop.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
That Trick, those days are set. And I don't even
want to say over. It's just those days have kind
of passed.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
They've kind of passed a little bit where you know,
now how there are other acts in all of WB
that are more over than that, whereas that was tippy top.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
At this time last year.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
So I'm going to stick.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh but I like.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
It, by the way, I love I know you know that.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
But yeah, No, he's so good. I mean, all three
of these guys are good. And I'm really looking forward
to this one. Yes, Like I'm really looking forward to
this match to see what these three do in the
main event spot, but also because I do think there's
gonna be some storytelling movements here, so we'll see how
these guys tell that story through and through. Uh before

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we get to WrestleMania. There will be the last SmackDown
before Mania, And whereas on the raw side it does
feel more like a go home show, on the SmackDown side,
they do try to make it feel a little bit
like an appetizer for WrestleMania, for the WrestleMania weekend, the
kickoff being that Friday. I expect Chelsea Green to probably

(37:55):
defend her championship against Alena Vega after the countout victory
we saw yesterday that has announced Jett. Oh, we do
know the Street Profits will defend their Tacking Championship against
Motor City Machine Guns. Danielle, what do you think about
this one?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Who I think is gonna win? Or what do I
think about it in general?

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Well? Both? But yes, who do you think is gonna win?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Street Profits? Are you're talking about Street profits right?

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Street Profits I think are going to retain. Yeah, I
think this was just a way because they can't get
them on the card.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
So I'll say this, I feel like this match should
have been on Mania, and New Day war Raiders should
be on Raw. I do think the only reason that
match was chosen has less to do with what people
will most likely assume, which is that, oh, well, New
Day or you know, Kofi Kings in particular has been
here forever. So it's like that's why I almost right,

(38:45):
almost like veteran status, you know, that kind of stuff.
But I truly think it has more to do with
the fact that Raw is not being treated as part
of the WrestleMania weekend SmackDown kind of ist. So they're like,
we'll put this Raw match on wrestle Mania. This machdown
match can be a part of the weekend even though
it's not a part of the show, if that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
I mean, if I was motor staying machine Guns, I'd
be at because I would really want to be on Wrestling.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Now, for the record, there are I believe seven matches
announced for Night one six matches announced for Night two.
I suppose this match could get blown up somehow and
leading us to a multi tag team match for the
tegnentitles at Wrestling, like we had been expecting to happen

(39:31):
months in advance. However, it seems more likely and we'll
talk about this when we get there, but that Randy Orton,
that the reason why there's that missing spaces because of
Randy Orton's match, And it does feel like he'll get
on the card somehow, whether he has a match, whether
he has a segment something. So I don't actually think
there is an open spot for this match to bleed
in the Mania.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
So yeah, I'm with you. I think Street Profits retain.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
But it is unfortunate because all four of these guys,
and really this back on tag team, the Vision in
general deserves representation at WrestleMania. Andrea the Giant balle Royal
has been announced, Danielle. Before we move on to the
WrestleMania portion of these predictions, why don't we throw out
a few names that you think that we think could

(40:18):
potentially win the Andrea Giant Bower Royal. And before we
do that, I want to point out that it does
feel like last year was the first time in a
while that they did actually try to choose the winner
correct the right way and had Bronson Red not gotten
hurt this year. If you think about where he was headed,
you know he heard at Wargames. If you think about

(40:41):
what could have been the moments the matches, he could
have had the moment that actually could have been set
up for WrestleMania. I think this would have been the
first winner in a long time to actually be a
meaningful winner, despite it only happening on the SmackDown before Mania.
So like with that, I'm trying to make myself hopeful
again in terms of like thinking that the winner would

(41:01):
actually be, you know, chosen with the next twelve months
kind of in mind. I mean, I think an easy
name to throw out there, not necessarily an easy winner
because size wise it would be difficult, but an easy
name throughout there is obviously Ray Phoenix, who just got there.
They made the decision not to wait a couple of weeks.
They debuted him last week. He's been exploding in popularity

(41:25):
and really showcasing everything he can do, so he's he's
one that could do it.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
I think it's going to be Chad Gable.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
That would be amazing.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
See if this ball happened the raw after WrestleMania, I'd
see Chad Gable doing it.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I think it's that's so funny. So it's funny is.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
I feel like I feel like we could see some
stories told here, Like I almost want to see like
the Miz win by throwing out Carmelo, but and like
starting Carmelo on a face turn. But they almost feel
like in a limited time they get on TV, Mis
and Mellow were actually trying to strengthen their connection and
really blend together as a tag team while they're together.

(42:06):
The team that could potentially actually be put in that spot,
though not probably as a winner, but where we see
a split, you know, or get closer to a split
in this match is Austin Theory and Grayson Waller. We
could see something happen with them.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
It's funny.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
I forgot about the fact that they were so prevalent
in matches an NXT stand deliver, But I kind of
in my mind thought maybe Eating Page or Oba Femei
could potentially pop up and win the Battle Royal. We've
seen NXT call ups happen there in the past, exactly.
I think they have the opportunity to give us the

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first ever two time winner of the Battle Royal if
they give it to Bronze Stroman. I think one person
that I'm actually hoping we'll get into this. I'm hoping
he finds a spot on the Mania card. It seems
less than likely really accepting Randy Orton's open challenge. If
we go there, it is the only way I see
him getting on the Mania card. But if not, Seamus,

(43:05):
Like Seamus should have something to do, right, and Shamus
is someone who could win this and maybe give us
a kickstart for the year.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
But if I have to.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Pick a winner, and I'm doing it more hoping, and
also I'm picking him because it does play off of
your pick a little bit.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I think it should be Otis. Give it to some
big man Otis. Otis has done his time.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Hell, Lotus is still over, and there's theoretically no reason
for him to be this over. It's solely because the
fans know what WW Creative does not, which is that
Otis is the truth.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
So yes, let's give it to Otis.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Love that love that pick.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
As soon as you said, I was like, he's going,
I knew you're gonna pick Otis. The whole time you're rambling,
I was like, he's gonna pick Otis a lot.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Of rambling to get.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
To Otis, Get to Otis.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Yeah, all right, let's get into WrestleMania forty one. I
do believe the opening match of Night one will probably
be the Royal Rumble winner. I think it'll be Gunn
and jay Usso. And before we get there, we got
an impassioned promo from jay Usu to Gunther. It was
beautiful and for anyone who missed it, here it is.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, I'm not afraid anymore, I said, I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Do you hear me, I'm not afraid anymore.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
That's right, jay Usso is not afraid anymore. He looked
gun Through right in his eyes and let him know.
All it took was watching his brother get his ass whooked.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
That was just put some fire under your ass.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
I actually loved this promo, despite the fact that him
saying I'm afraid and more maybe one hundred percent think
of home alone.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Obviously. I thought this was a great promo. I thought
that we actually saw Gunther.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Get a little scared of jay Usso in that moment,
and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do in
the final raw going into it. That's the one thing
I hate about us doing our predictions week early, which
is that which is that we don't know what's gonna
happen here, right, and so it's like jay Uso finally
stood up to Gunther right now after Gunther seemingly beating

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him down, making his brother bleed. It almost feels like
jay Usso would beat down Gunther in the final raw
going in the Mania, that jay Uso is going to
be left standing at Raw. But if that happens, that
makes me think, oh shit, gunthery is gonna win, and
you know, vice versa. I kind of feel like whoever
is left standing raw and SmackDown will usually get left

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laying at WrestleMania. That's kind of like the rule of thumb.
Not perfect, but a lot of times that's how they
do it. So if he guessing without seeing the raw.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
And SmackDown, it's definitely a disadvantage for him.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
Beating down Gunther makes Gunther weaker for WrestleMania, which makes
it easier for jus.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
No, no, no, Danielle, you're thinking of it. It's got
a real fight. This is wrestling, Dan Yell. That's it's
too real logic. You can't beat This is wrestling logic
we're talking about, Danielle. Come on now, come on, fair enough.
I will kick start this one. Thinking that we are
sticking with Yata Mania. It's jay Usso to become champion.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Kick start the weekend with a big old celebration with you.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
So I think so it.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Will yeah, and I hope they stick with it and
good for Jay. I'm ready to see it. I'm ready
to see from it.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I think it's gonna be a real explosion in the arena.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Jimmy's gonna show up and they're gonna cry together in
the ring.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
And this doesn't because then that's weird.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
I think.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
I think that's what they have to do. They have
to open it with it with just ultimate adrenaline. Just
open it with a big time fireworks show.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I mean they didn't they open the show with Damian
priest like it was the didn't they start with Drew
McIntyre becoming champion and then Damian Priest? Or was that
not the first? Am? I I feel like that I
could be making that up. You're not that exciting. I'm old.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Let's go that into a Hall of Famer facing a rookie.
We've got Ray Mysterio with the brand new upstart El
Grande Americano. I am while it is ridiculous, I am
happy that Chad Gable is getting his first ever singles
match at WrestleMania. I do wonder if he gets the

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mask pulled off his face during this match. I wonder
if he gets exposed. Danielle, what do you think of
this one?

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I think El Grande's winning.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
I think they're gonna I think Ray's gonna give him
the rub, and I think this is the way to
do it.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Unfortunately, so I gotta go with El Grande.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
I actually agree with you.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
I think I think El Grande slash Chad Gable I
think should get the win here. But I love I'm
interested to see how silly they get with it, because
I do think there's gonna be some elements of silliness
to it. At first, in my mind I was thinking, okay, well,
obviously the l WO and American Maid are gonna get
involved ringside, They're gonna brawl.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Something's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
With that, probably even Zelena and Ivy Nile mixing it up,
even though Selena's on SmackDown now, I can still see it.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
But then I was like, wait, what if? What if?
Out of nowhere?

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Like and in my mind I was like, the finish
is going to be a new member of American Maid,
someone with a similar body type to Chad Gable, maybe
even like an NXT guy who's getting called up having
the American made mask on. And then we're gonna do
a switch root, right like Chad Gabel, Like Chack Gable
goes under the ring and then a new El Grande
America pop pops out, and I was like, that's gonna
be the finish, That's how they do it.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
And then I was like, wait a minute, if they
wanted to be really.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Silly with it, they have Julius Creed and Brutus Creed
both dressed like El Grande Americano. Like out of nowhere,
Julius Creed props out and then it's him wearing the
mask and the singlet, and everyone like wait a minute.
This is you know, like like do they go that
silly with it or do they actually like I can't
tell if they go silly with it or if they

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actually go heelish with it, which is with you know,
a brand new El Grande Americano showing up and helping
Chad Gable get the win, or even just being a
decoy so that Ray can take the mask off of him.
It's not Chad Gable, it's some guy we don't know
who's getting offended.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Like, oh, you unmasked me, Ray, how could you? Ray's like,
wait a minute, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (49:18):
And then Chad Gable as Grande Americano shows up again
and gets the win like something like that.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
So they just got you to enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I certainly didn't say that you're putting words in my
mouth as you like to do el Gana Americano. Was
that not clear?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
No? No?

Speaker 4 (49:39):
All right?

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Tag Team Championships on the line, I am. I don't
want you to think I don't want this match on
the card. I just would have gone with Street Profits
defending Theirs over war Raiders.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
I think more.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Yeah, I think the build's been there, but I do.
I am happy to see these guys get on the
Mania card for sure. I do think New Days going
to win.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I do not, I do, yeah, I mean it's interesting.
I'm just kind of in my mind, I'm like, you
guys gave New.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Day such an emotional heel turn, and I was okay
with them, like not putting the foot on the gas
immediately after it happened and kind of having them just
spend the next month to insult the crowd and let
them boo them without actually doing anything. But it's like
if it was all really to build up to this,
which just got kick started like a week or two ago,

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like it seems, it seems silly. So I'm thinking that
they just made the decision. Yeah, we're gonna put the
belts on the New Day and give them something to
talk about.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
So I am going with New Day. Here.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
US Championship La Knight defending against Jacob Foto Danielle Who
you got in this one?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
You know what? I'm very sad about this matter.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Oh oh, I'm tell you. Why tell me?

Speaker 6 (50:55):
Because I like La Knight as US champion, of course
you do, But I don't think he's winning. I think
I gotta be Jacoba too. He's too over and it
gotta be Jacob, and like I hate that because I mean,
I'll be happy for him, but I feel like La
Knight is going to yeah, and I don't like that
makes me.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Sound Yeah, I think Ellen Knight could get drafted to
Raw and kind of get a fresh.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Start maybe, so if he does lose, it wouldn't be
like I think he's fine. I think either both of
these guys are fine with that.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Said, I can't really decide if the story they're telling
ends with Solo accidentally costing Jacob the title and then
we get more Jacob, we get Jacob Solo, or if
it goes Jacob wins because Jacob Atu got so over
the fans are gonna want to see it. He deserves
a big WrestleMania match in his debut, a big moment,

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and then from there, with Jacob as the face US
Champion but aligned with the heel Solo and the heel Tomatonga,
we could then see more dissension.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
So I can't really tell. It's tough for me to decide.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
I was close to him with La Knight and thinking
Sola was gonna screw him over, But something in the
way they did this last week, and something with the
way Solo was talking about Jacob winning makes me think
that that's where we're gonna get the latter Jacob wins
and then we get Solo constantly taking credit for it.
Maybe Solo holding the belt, maybe Solo positioning himself as

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the head of the family despite Jacob batubiing the only
one with.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Gold around his waist.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
So I think that might be the more compelling story,
and that's what I'm going with. Speaking of a compelling story,
I'm so happy Jay car Gill and Naom we have
been given this match, have been given the opportunity to
tell a compelling story, a non title feud going into WrestleMania.
I mentioned a week or two ago that I met
Natalia and Live Morgan at WrestleMania, but apparently that was

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pre show, so this will be like the first non
title women's singles match at WrestleMania in like I think
they said nineteen years or something. If I had to
guess from that timeframe, probably maybe Trish or Alita. I
don't remember, but yeah, crazy, So very happy that it's
happening with these two women in particular. This is a

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tough one to predict, though, because do I go with
the story they're telling that would take me to thinking
Jade has to get the win here, has to get
her her vengeance from what Naomi did, or do I
kind of go with giving the win to who may
have deserved it based on the work they've done the
last year and the fact that Naomi probably should have

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won the title two three times in the past year
for the work she's been doing like NonStop and building
this program.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
I mean, I want to see Naomi get.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
This win, but once again the story it feels like
Jade is getting her come up, and so I can't tell.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
I can't tell, can you.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
I am gonna go with Jade in this one only
because I think Jade winning Naomi will still be okay
and still a plan to talk about. She'll be fine
if Naomi was to win a lot of and this
steak might go with her, depending on how Naomi gets
the win, of course. But yeah, I'm gonna go with
Jade in this one.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Yes, I too, am going with Jade because I feel
like they built her up to be such a dominant
force that it would be silly to have her now
and Naomi has to get her come up and for
being a heel.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
I'll say this though I don't like, and I understand
they kind of gave the stipulation I would have given,
which is basically I would have made this a no
DQ match because I don't think like these women hate
each other.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
There's personal beef.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
She tried to kill her or end her career at
the least, you know, so there should be no rules.
I think we we've already gotten there in the build.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
They just didn't execute that.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Granted there's still time, there's still a SmackDown, so maybe
they escalate this to a stipulation. But they just gave
the street fight stipulation, which is essentially the same thing
to Damian Priest Andrew McIntyre. So once again, I think
that probably leaves us with this match within the rules,
which I don't like as much. And it almost makes

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me think like maybe Naomi finds a waited she maybe
get the dirty wind, you know, because she keeps saying
proceed with caution. Maybe there's something to that, you know,
I can't tell. It's the wrestlemaning of it all that
has me picking Jade. Really, let's talk a bit before
we get into the Women' Championship match. Charlotte and Tiffany.
It has continued this week. They gave us a shades

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of the Kevin Owens heel turn by having something done
not to be captured by WWB cameras. Charlotte attacks Tiffany
in the parking lot yesterday getting ready for SmackDown.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
The only people.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Recording that moment were fans just getting themselves shots of
Tiffany arriving, and then it was fans that posted their videos,
and that is how we saw Charlotte attacking Tiffany, leaving
her laying in the parking lot. Charlotte would then attack
Tiffany after her win over Roxanne and leave her laying
yet again, this did not look like your typical attack.

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It looked more personal. But of course at this point
it's supposed to. Now at this point, they're playing in
what they've done. They made this a personal feud, they
made this a shootish feud last week by shooting, and
now WWB Creative, the powers that be are kind of
rolling with that, it seems, and giving it more of
that personal feel.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
You ladies wanted to go this way, here we go.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
I think this is the best Charlotte ever looked. I
thought this was her best outfit yet.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
I was like, this outfit is much better than the
shit you've been coming out with.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
What's funny is I didn't feel that way about the
outfit she attacked Tiffany. No, she attacked Tiffany in like
a skirt, and I was like, what the fuck that?
When she changed for the show into just pants and
a teacher, I'm like, Okay, see this, Charlotte looks like.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
A badass yea, and she looks like a badass.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
Yeah, I like that they did it this way to
keep it kind of shoot but k fabe and like
have all this going on.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I like that a lot.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
This is another one of those instances where making the
prediction before the final show has me thrown off because
Charlotte leaving Tiffany lang again here makes me think that
Tiffany will get her come up and SmackDown, that that
Tiffany might even end SmackDown holding her title high with
Charlotte being on the ground. So it's one of those

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things where, wait, Charlotte is gonna.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Lose, what Tiffany's gonna lose?

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I'm not there yet.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Oh, because you said Tiffany's gonna get her come up
in which means Tiffany loses.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
On SmackDown, Like I think Charlotte's gonna like, Charlotte's gonna
get left laying by Tiffany on SmackDown. But so and
that makes me think, oh, because like usually the person
who comes out on top on SmackDown will be the
one to take the pinfall at WrestleMania. So it's like
if Tiffany leaves Charlotte laying on SmackDown, I don't necessarily
like her chances of winning at WrestleMania.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
So I'm torn here.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
I wish I knew what the final build included for
these two. I have to just go with what I
want to happen here. I just like I have to
go with Tiffany.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah, I was very confused by what you were saying
because you said Tiffany was getting her come up, And
that's why I was confused, because when someone gets their
come up, and that means they're loose, they are at
this shit under the stick. That's why I was very
confused by what you were.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Saying, because Tiffany just got left le So I'm like,
she's gonna get her lick back next week. But that
almost makes me think Charlotte's gonna get her title back.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
So it's like very That's.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Why I was very confused on what you saying. Yeah,
I want to go Tiffy because that's what I want
to happen.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
But and that's what I think should happen. If I'm
being honest, right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Charlotte winning doesn't do anything good for the division unless
Becky's coming back at Wrestlemanian they just want to give
us Charlotte Decky for the title immediately, and that doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
I don't think Charlott's gonna win because I don't think
this WW is gonna do that. I think they already
put her and they saw the reception that she got
for winning Royal Rumble and immediately going into a title
pacher for WrestleMania, So I think they know that it
has to be Tiffy.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
So I'm going I'm going to Tiffy time.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Yeah, I mean, I hope they go with Tiffy.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
It's it's also tough to believe that what both these
women did last week is in somehow playing into the decision, right,
Like do they say, oh, Charlotte's not acting like a professional,
we can't reward her with the Do they say, Tiffany's
not as mature as we thought she was, we can't
reward her with the you know, with the win over Charlotte.

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Like does anyone get quote unquote punished at WrestleMania because
of how personal this feud went?

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Or would that be kind of a sexist way to
treat it? Because with the men. It doesn't usually happen
like that.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
If something gets more personal and it makes more money
usually and they'll usually just play into that and maybe
one guy at the end of it kind of takes
a few months of getting buried a bit. For the
most part, it seems like those men will be applauded
for it, and you know, to Tiffany's points, she said
an interview this week, it does seem like people are
a lot more interested in this match since that promo

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exchange then whatever w Creative was doing with it and
whatever was happening with Tiffany not defending herself. But yeah,
it'll certainly be interesting to see what happens Tiffany Stratton
defend against Charlotte Flair.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Let's talk about cmpunk seth Rollins and Roman Reign.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
It will be the main event of Night one. Danielle,
what do you make of this big match and the
way it's been presented going for who do you got?

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
I still think the favors to it and I will
I will die on that. I think it's dumb. I
think this is going to be a super fun match.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
I feel like if you're in the main event and
you've been huffing and puffing about being in the main event,
and then you gotta win the main event.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
So I think winning this.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Match has really been built well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I think what happens on Raw and SmackDown will probably
pay a big, big role in this because there's still
more story to tell getting us there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
I think what Seth did this week with Paul Hayman
was brilliant.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Seth planning seeds in Paul Hayman's head talking about the
fact that neither Punk and Roman have actually been good
friends to Paul Hayman, which are all true, and Roman
Reigns has come across more heelish than than Punk has
when like, like when you look at the when Roman
Reigns gets in his tribal chief mode, you realize that

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the tribal chief or you'll remember I should say that
the tribal chief character inherently is a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Heel yes, you know. And Roman Reins did.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Abandon Paul Hayman after he lost his title. He left
him there with Solo and and and the New bloodline,
and he let Paul Hayman get get his ass kicked.
So Roman Reigns has not been nearly as loyal as
Paul Hayman as Paul has been to him and CM
punk same same thing. I'm predicting something crazy here, something crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
So the big favor is that Paul Hayman walks with
CM Punk down. He's the manager, he's in his corner.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
I think that throughout Night one of WrestleMania, there's going
to be a backstage thing going, which is probably already
means I'm wrong because they don't usually do this set
pay per views, let alone WrestleMania, But I think there
will be a trend they will show us backstage. Nobody's
gonna know where Paul Hayman is. Paul Hayman's not gonna
be with CM punk seam Punk's. Like Wise, Roman reigns,

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what did you do?

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
You have him? Roman rains like he has even asking
my phone calls, he's with you, Like nobody knows where
Paul Haman is. Then we find out Paul Hayman's been
attacked once again. Who did it? They're saying seth Rollins
did it? Seth Ronins, Like, if I was gonna attack him,
I would have attacked him on raw I had him,
I could have attacked him. I did it. You probably
did it. Roman, Rains is saying, why would I do it?
He's my wise man. Yeah, but he wasn't gonna be

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your wise man. You knew he was gonna help me win,
and you did it. Blah blah blah. They're all pointing
the fingers at who attacked Paul Haymen. Match happens, Paul
Haymon comes down and he turns on both CM Punk
and Roman Reigns, helping Seth Rollins win.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
It's so funny you say that as you were like,
I'm about to predict something great, well before you said
the crazy thing I was gonna say, Or Paul Hayman
doesn't come out with irather them and he comes out
with Seth in the very beginning, I mean, or like
he comes out, he walks down with CM Punk and
then when they're all in their corners, Paul Hayman just
walked over to Seth and stands in his corner.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Yeah, I mean, that would be crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
There's an easy way to do it, to get to
a Seth Rollins win without Paul Hayman, like making a
big decision where it's like seeing Punk and Roman Reigns
are both kind of ordering him the entire match help me,
give me the chair.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Do that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
You're mine, You're my wise man, You're in my corner.
Blah blah blah. And eventually Paul Hayman just has it
like flips out, throws the chair on the ground, leaves.
The distraction is enough to allow Seth Rollins to pin
them both and then it can be like that obsession
is what helped Seth Rollins win.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
I was gonna, I was gonna do a thing where
you were like, don't put that eye should I feel
like just because or Paul Hayman goes you all have favors.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
I have a favor, and then brock Lesser comes down and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Just shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Imagine I don't want to that's so funny, it would
be funny. I laugh. I'm sorry, but I laugh. He
was like I have He's like he's like I had
a favor too, and that he just comes down and
just beats a ship out of all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
I would cry.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
So are you going with Rollins?

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
I'm going with Seth Rollins.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
He's been the most captivating character he's done, in my opinion,
the heavy lifting I like it of really carrying this
three way story.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
And so I think Seth Rollins.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Has done a great job of not making himself feel
like the third whe'll feel like an afterthought in this,
and he's now become a focal point for me to
the point where I feel like he's winning.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
I feel like he's walking out victorious. I like it. Uh,
let's go to night two. Let's talk about the Intercontinental Championship.
Bron Breaker gonna defend it against Penta, Finn Balor and
Dominic Mystadio Danielle, Who you got?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Who do I have? I feel like if damn it,
I don't know who I have.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
I want to say bron Breaker, but I feel like
they're gonna give it a Penta. I'm gonna go ped
I think pent is the one, like he's coming He's
coming in hot, and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
It would be a good person to beat him. Even
though I would love I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
I would love to see Finnbaler on it, but I
feel like and dom are gonna cost each other the
shot of getting titled, so I'm gonna go for that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
I feel like at this point, with Bron's second ice rain,
it would be a mistake to take it off him
until you're really ready to like elevate him, and whether
that means moving him to programs with more elevated main
event guys away from a championship, that'd be fine. Whether
it means him finally challenging for the world championship, that'd

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be fine too. I don't necessarily know they're there yet.
I think it's logical to think Penta could win this
because it is a four way, which means he wouldn't even.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Have the pin bron breaker. But I also feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Penta not winning would be a logical call because then
he doesn't have to get pinned to lose, So it's
kind of he gets elevated by being in this match.
Finn Balor and Dominic are where the story's going where
you're like, Finn, you know the craziest thing about that
is and we saw it this Monday on Raw. Are
they turning dom face?

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah, it's very weird.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
It's super weird, and it's so because like Live and
Finn are kind of going at it on behalf of
dom lives very much heeled that it doesn't seem to
be changing. Finn is doubling down with heel and everything
he says, and I almost thought he'd be like the
guy the fans would cheer for when Judgment Day turns
on him, but no, Finn Balor is constantly trying to

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be manipulative, constantly putting Dob down.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Constantly pushing in the heel heel, heel.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
And the fans are getting behind Dominick, which we knew
was something like as soon as w wanted that to happen, boom,
the fans were ready for it. But it's so surprising
to see that happen now and see how it's happening.
Seeing Dominic somehow become icy champion and then seeing Finn
like pissed about it later would be amazing. The fans

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would go crazy for h like, if you want to
give us a shock, a shock, what the fuck happened
moment Dominick. Mysterio would be like bron would have Dominic
set up on the top rope for his Frankensteiner, but
then Penn the and Finn both hit him with something
all three or laid out.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Dominic like comes to on the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Top turn buckle, slowly getting up there, fans slowly going crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Standing up, he says, fuck it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Hits a frog splash on Finn Baler because he's the
only one close to him wins the title, Like that
would be a fucking WrestleMania moment.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
But do they go with it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
So I think since I told that story, I can
take credit for it if it does happen, I don't
actually have to predict it. So I'm gonna stick with
bron Breaker retaining because as I said, I don't think
it's time for him to lose the title yet, Like,
just just stick with a dominating run until he's ready
to graduate.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
But dominic mysteria will probably be the talking point no
matter what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
Women's Tag Team Championship Sweelern yesterday, Bailey and Lyra will
be the contenders, taking on Live Morgan and Rockkel Rodriguez
of Judgment Day. Danielle, do you think our new challengers
have a chance?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Uh No, I think Days retaining.

Speaker 6 (01:07:59):
I think Living and are going to retain, And I
think some funny duddy stuff is gonna happen with I mean, if.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
I fuddy study, if I fuddy stuff, you mean, I
think they're gonna lose and Bailey is going to turn
on Lyra and say, fuck this shit, I'm a heel again.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Maybe that would be better.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
That would be awesome, but it wouldn't be Like, it
wouldn't technically make as much sense what Lyra gets heated
because she couldn't become a double champion. That's more logical
than Bailey getting pissed that the champion partner she has
couldn't get the job done with her even though she
lost to her last week. Like, there's too many elements
of this that could easily play into Bailey just losing
it and saying, fuck these young girls idolizing me with

(01:08:40):
their pictures of me ten years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
You all, yeah, fuck them kids, and fuck Logan Paul.
Why because fuck them? That's why Logan Paul versus AJ styles.
Explain to me why Carrion Cross has been doing more
to sell this match than anyone in any in WWB.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Car I love that he just built himself back up
and I just love.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
That he's been doing it on his own.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Yeah, carrying Cross is trying to get the I don't
even know what you would call it, just the real
AJ styles to come out, the ruthless ages styles, the
age styles we need. He's expressing the importance of this
match in that you're one of us, You're a wrestler's
wrestler Logan Paul is an insect. Logan Paul is a

(01:09:24):
cancer and you cannot lose to him at WrestleMania, and
Carrying Across will be facing ages styles on Raw as
a way to get the wild man out of AJ.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Well he's been doing the hair.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Yeah, that liar all these years we thought he was.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
A liar, fucking asshole?

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
What a liar?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
What do you think with this one? Who do you got?
I I don't want AJ winning either.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
But you don't want winning now? I mean I don't
want AJ losing either. But it's like carrying Cross where
do we go from here? Does carrying Across awaken the
monster in Aj? AJ beats Logan Paul? And then what
carrying crossed just kind of is the devil on AJ's
shoulder moving forward like I knew you had it in you,
and AJ is like get away for me?

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Do we do that?

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Just Carrying Cross cost AJ the match? Like I can't
tell I'm gonna go with AJ two. But it's it's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
You're doing it more because you don't want right right right,
But it's tough.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
It's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
Thing about where they're going with AJ and Carrion and
how this match is going to play into that. Let's
talk about the street fight, the aforementioned street fight, Damien
Priest versus Drew McIntyre.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Technically, this will.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Be the second WRESTLEMANI in a road these guys have
a match technically.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Technically, yeah, that's a technically.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
It's like you know when people have multiple matches all the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Time for five years, Danielle, who you got?

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I feel like it's gonna be Damian Priest, even though
it should be Drew.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Yeah, I kind of have the same exact feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Actually it should be Drew, but I think it's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
It should one hundred percent be Drew, but I don't
and and Drew will benefit more from it, I think.
But it does feel like ww's kind of committed to
making Damien Priest appear to be as.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Cool and as tough as possible.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
Then again, it's a street fight, and I also feel
like with Damian Priest, they just want to showcase that
he's got that dog in him, you know, like the
Mick Foley triple as no DQWO days, Like like I
could see these guys doing some crazy shit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
But yeah, I'm with you. I think Damien Priese is
gonna win, but I would give it to Drew.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
We've got Eo Sky, Ria Ripley, Bianca bell Lair. This
feud has been heating up so fun. I do believe
me and you are also in agreement with this one
because we both kind of said it throughout the week
in our past episodes. I believe Eo Sky will be
retaining her championship. I think it is too soon, you know,

(01:11:49):
since they chose to give it to her as a
way of kind of getting her here. It's interesting that
the fans have kind of and we thought it was
just abroad, but now it's in the it's in the States.
The fans have decided Beyonca' is the heel in this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Yeah, I don't. I don't necessarily disagree with it, but
I don't necessarily agree with it fully either.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
I don't like especially, you know, I don't think we
need to go in as a heel. I don't think
there's really I think they're.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
Just I think if you focus on the aspect that
she won the Chamber to get herself a one on
one match, therefore it shouldn't be a triple threat. Uh,
And then it's easy to be like, Beyonca's the face,
why are you booing her? But then when you focus
on the fact that, yeah, she won that elimination chamber match,
that match win did not include a ringside seat to
even as loose as it was, get involved in rear

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versus EO, many fans look at her as the reason
why Real lost. And then I personally hate the way
Bianca was presented as a referee, the fact that she
got hit twice and was just so casualus to say
throw away the match, like what did you think was
gonna happen?

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
How dare you like?

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
I kind of I kind of like the goofiness of
Bianca and Rea just attacking each other, and then like
this way they'll they'll fumble their own ship, they'll fumble
their own win, and EO is gonna come out on
top because Io is gonna beat the ship out of
both of them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
And that's what I'm looking forward to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
They're obsessed with each other each other.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
It'll take it'll most likely give us three ripley Bianca
bell Air moving forward like that feud, which even though
I kind of feel like, I kind of feel like
Bianca is not done with either Naomi or Jade. Yeah,
I feel like there's still more to go with that,
and that is the only voice in my head that
says Bianca might actually win this.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Yeah, but I think I think I was just going
to share both of them, and I think it's gonna
be awesome because the two of them are such strong women,
such powerful women, and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
EO is sick of this ship. Yeah, She's like, you're
making this championship about you and is the.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
Only one that can't be looked at as the heel
in the situation with Rear, you can kind of see
a heel switch also in her mentality and that. But
with EO, these people are constantly disrespecting, are constantly talking
over her, moving her out of the way. They just
want to fight each other. So yeah, EO's going to
be like, all right, do that, and I will my
title before we get on.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
To the main event.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
As I said, it does seem like there's an open
spot for Randy Orton no matter what they choose to do.
He made a strong hint yesterday about Nick Aldus. He mentioned, hey,
maybe you throw the boots on and get in the ring.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
He said.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
He even said, I will not apologize to your wife,
Mickey James, if you don't give me a match.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Because what I will do I will not be apologizing
for it. So so there, there's been a hint there,
but no real direction.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
The closest direction we got with Solo Socoa and Tomatonga
interrupting him and getting us a tag match Solo and
Tomatonga versus him in La Knight. Solo could face him,
but I feel like we would have gotten more from
Solo Randy if that was the direction they were going in.
I mentioned earlier, I wouldn't mind if they just said,

(01:14:52):
fuck it, Seamus, go out there and do it. You
deserve to be on this car, and it's a fucking
crime that we've allowed you to constantly go on you
for so long for no reason at all. So Seamus
getting on the card with Randy would be fun. I
think there's a chance we get a segment I mentioned
this to you off air, but a segment where Randy
kind of comes out, makes an open challenge, Austin, Fiery,

(01:15:15):
Grayson Waller, Mellow Miss, maybe even another heel or two
kind of get thrown out there to talk about why
it should be them or why you're not on the
card for a reason, you're irrelevant, YadA YadA, and basically
all the heels that they throw in the ring with
Randy just get RKO r k O r KO. Kind
of the equivalent of what you would give Stone Cold
Steve Austin if he said, I want our Mania spot, Okay,

(01:15:37):
we'll put him in the ring with our heels. He
stunners them, all the crowds goes home.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
Pappy. I could see them just doing that with Randy,
just giving him an RKO segment. Uh, here comes to
tin foil had people in a ten file has being
put on Danielle's head.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I'm going crazy. I'm gonna give you three crazy scenarios.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
These scenarios.

Speaker 6 (01:15:54):
My three is Randy instarts himself into the John Cena
and Cody match and how I don't know, but it's
gonna happened that these are These are my I'm going crazy.
It would just be funny because it's like, oh, John,
you want to win this title because you want to
beat Rick Flair's record.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Well, I'm close to it too. Now I'm in this
match and I be you. I think that would be great.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
So both elimination Chamber of matches would turn into triple threats.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
That yeah, my my worst fear. Uh nick uh.

Speaker 6 (01:16:22):
I almost said to Donnis again, Nick all this that
I could see blah blah. Another of my crazy, my
crazy theory.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
They just have fucking Undertaker come out and have a
quick thing with Randy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:33):
I'm going crazy, my big crazy that I wouldn't be
surprised if it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
And this is my big crazy, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Randy's opponent is going to be the knows.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I mean, I love the optimism. This would just be
the wildest way to get us and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
I wouldn't be surprised. It's a wild way to get through.

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
Maybe something happened where he had his surgery and he
could take a light bump, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
But this is my This is again, this is my
ten fall hat.

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
I'm keeping on with my three crazy ones, my Cody
Roads and Johnson is my favorite theory. I mean, I
would love to see Kevin Owens, but I want to
see Kevin Owens in peak, or even Kevin Owens just
come out and then maybe Randy looks at him and
thinks he's gonna have a match and like Sammy Zan
comes out and punches him in the head, or someone
comes out, or Nick Nick comes out and like gives
him an RKO when he goes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
That's what you get for giving me an RKO. That'd
be fun.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Like Kevin just makes an appearance but he doesn't do anything. Yeah,
this is me being crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
I mean, if it was gonna be Kevin Owens related,
I could be Sammy zaying because we once again, we
don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
So this is just my fun like fun theory tint.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
So like Sammy Zain, we don't We haven't heard anything
about an injury from him. We don't really know real
reason that he was written off television and removed from
WrestleMania plans.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Maybe he's just taking a break.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
It's kind of a head scratcher. But assuming he's healthy
and assuming w w B and him have a good relationship,
still maybe he gets thrown in and that wouldn't really
make sense sense him and Kevin Owens hate each other
still too.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Listen, I'm just making up stuff. Hey, I'm going right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
Well, yeah, I'm in the process of going outlandish myself.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Oh I love it. Put your tinfoil hat on.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
I mean, I don't know how much tinfoil I have left.
Being honest, you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:09):
Take it off and put it on, it's still there.
It doesn't you don't rip it apart and like eat
what's inside. It's just tinfoil, it's not leftovers.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
What if Chad Gable Chad Gabel challenge his radio ar.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Yeah, Chad Gable doesn't have a match, Chad Gables left
off the car.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
I'd be okay with that. I think, I said Chad
Gable at one point too. I think we were talking
about that yesterday and I was like, Chad Gable, where's
Chad Gable from Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
Where?

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
And he Randy's from Saint Louis, Minnesota. Yeah, I mean,
I really, I'll be honest, I don't know what they
do with Randy. It's clear that he's gonna be at
Mania and there's gonna be some action. The question is
does he get an actual match? And at this point who?

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
And like this is why it's a crime the way they.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Book people, because realistically, if you didn't just get Carmelo
stuck in in like mid hard hell, like if you
didn't devalue, you know, if you didn't move him down
the ladder, for so long that now he has to
start from scratch. If you kept mellow hot, he could
be someone you can just slide into this match, the
same way I'm talking about someone like Seamus.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
So I think I'm hoping Run Raw and SmackDown will
give us a better idea of where Randy Orton will
be slotted into this Mania card and if it will
be kind of just a RKO fester, if we'll get
a match out of him.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
He's gonna RKO Cody and Sena, and that is gonna
become the new Champeon.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
Yeah. Main event of Night two will be for the
w Championship, Cody Rose defending against John Cena.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
What weird isn't a weird reading that off? It's weird, right,
it's weird. It's weird. It's weird. But I'm excited. I
think it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
I think the crowd is gonna be really hot for
this match, really hot.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
I also think this is a rare situation where if
the heel wins, the crowd's not gonna be pissed, like disappointed, pissed.
They might be booing it, and there might be plenty
unhappy to see Cody lose, but it won't be as
we talked about. Went from aaw dynasty where like, okay,
they just went wrong and it kind of ruined the show.
No one's gonna feel like that regardless of who wins here.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
So that's good. Yeah, why don't you kick us off
with who you believe?

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Everything?

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Fine, I'll do it. I think John Cena's winning.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Oh that's it, you're saying one sentence. I can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Oh, I'm not not close to done. No, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
I think John Cena wins. Because John Cena loss, I
don't know where we go for the rest of the year.
Whereas a John Cena win, it's just easiest.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
Pie. This is his final year.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
He said, he's taken the title and going away with it. Uh,
not necessarily leaving the day after Mania, but this is
you guys have me for the next six months and
that's it. And I am back to being the super Sena.
You guys hated. Why because nobody can touch me, nobody
will beat me. I will be losing to nobody in
this in this in the rest of this year, in
this retiring tour, your favorites will barely be able to

(01:21:01):
face me because I'm champion again. So no, you're not
gonna get the dream matches of your future stars versus me.
You're gonna have to see Punk face me again, and
Orton face me again, and maybe Seamus gets me again,
and they're all gonna lose because a super scene is
back and you can all suck it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
I don't think you're I think Cody Rhoads is winning.
I think this is a way of a legend passing
the torch. I think he's gonna quote unquote go out
on his back. I know we have him for another
six months, but you're forgetting the big picture of this.
In my opinion, Cody has to win to be the
wrestling darling of everybody. But then John Cena doesn't have
to feud with Roman Reigns. I mean with Cody Rhodes.

(01:21:40):
He has a bigger fish to fry, who's gonna be
pissed that he didn't win, and that's gonna be The
Rock and that's gonna start stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Yeah, we could go that way. I think I just
think I.

Speaker 6 (01:21:49):
Think they're doing fan service and they want John Cena
and The Rock to have another run. I know the
Rock isn't gonna show up as much as John Cena.
But I think the Rock's gonna be pissed when John
Cena wins. And that's what I mean. When John Cena loses,
and I think that so what we get.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
A John Cena Rock feud for the next six months.
That's what I think, eh. I think I think they go.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
I think they double down on he'l sena. They give
John Cena a win in his final WrestleMania match, setting
him up for his final year of just straight win win, win,
win win.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
It will be going belt.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
I'm not going to defend it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
He'll defend it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
But he said he wasn't going to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
He'll defend it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
It doesn't matter, but he did say go to he'll
defend it whateveruse.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
He's not in charge, Nicole. This is in charge, Nicole.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
This is gonna be fresh off our Randy Orton beat down.
He's not gonna be taking ship from anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
I don't winning.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Well, I think you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Well, it's okay for you to be wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
It's okay to be wrong. It's okay to be wrong. Danielle.
You are wrong, and it's okay. I support you in
your wrongness.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
It's very weird.

Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
We're in the middle of April and we're talking about
WrestleMania when Marrestlemania is usually the first week of April,
and we're all like, like, it's so far off now,
like it's just so it's such a weird thing. But
I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited. I'm much more
happy about this card than I will in the beginning,
because you remember when it was leaning up, I was like,
what is happening. I mean, I don't want to say excited.
I'm not excited, but I'm happy. There's not a lot

(01:23:07):
of matches where I feel are my quote unquote pee breaks,
and I'm looking forward to seeing people have matches I
don't know about like so many matches, but I guess
that's why it's two days.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
But I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
And I can't wait to go to Vegas because I
love Vegas so much and be at WrestleMania for the
first time since twenty nineteen. I haven't been to WrestleMania
since then because COVID happened, the world shut down, and
then that was you know, that was it. But yeah,
so everyone, thank you so much for tuning in if
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