October 23, 2025 • 19 mins
Hang with The HeelMarks as they give their NXT Halloween Havoc Predictions!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
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Speaker 4 (01:01):
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Together we are the heal Marks and we are back
because NXT Halloween Havoc is just around the corner, and
we are here with our predictions.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
That we are. I'm excited about this one. I'm gonna
snuggle up on my couch with my blankie and watch
this by having girl dinner.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
This is gonna be a good one. Let's get into it, Danielle.
This match was just made official. It's the most recent
match to enter the card where it's gonna be a
tag team match. Javon Evans and Leon Slater the inter
brand tag team TNA and NXT showing that we can
(01:46):
all be friends and they're taking on mister Iguana and
La Parca.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I am excited they just announced this. This is gonna
be super fun. Mister Iguana is so over, people love
him so much, and Javon Evans and Leon Slater so over,
Like everybody lamark. Everybody in this match is so over.
I can't wait for this match. I do think Javon
Evans and Leon Slater are going to come out on top.
(02:12):
I think they're probably gonna win, but that's gonna be
a fun match to watch.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It makes sense for them to win it being an
NXC pay per view as opposed to if this match
happened on a Triple A pay per view, I might
be picking differently. I also think Leon Slater is kind
of the s factor at all of this as well,
because technically, with Triple A being under the w umbrella,
Leon Slater is the only person who's not, so maybe
(02:37):
it does actually make sense for Leon Slater to take
the pin because the truth is NXT and Triple A
are both under W's umbrella. TNA is not TENA doesn't
have to be protected in this with I'm going with
Javon and Leon Slater.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I do think they're both being pushed.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Heavily right now, so it would very much for either
one of them to take the pinball.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
The only way I could see Leon having to take
the pin is to bring a divide between Javaon and
Leon to start like kind of a feud ish thing,
But it kind of doesn't make sense with what's lining up,
So I just think it's just gonna be a fun
match where they get the win.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Let's go with your boy, the NXC North American Champion,
Ethan Page. He's gonna be defending once again against a
Triple A representative. This is alhijo day, Doctor Wagner Junior.
I think that it will be Ethan Page retaining. I
do think that they've really been heating this feud up
(03:34):
for a while. Ethan Page is in particular, really been
doing a great job of hyping this up, and I
think maybe that's gotten in my head and making me
convince myself there's a chance, but I just really don't
see it happening. And I do see Ethan Page retaining
because he's just killing it as North American Champion, being
the greatest North American in professional wrestling.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
He took the words right out of my mouth. He
is the greatest North American Champion that NXT has ever seen.
He's killing it, and I don't taking off the belt
off of him anytime soon would do anything except make
him very angry and make me very sad. So I
definitely think he's retaining, and I think they're really utilizing
him and having him beat everyone and keep retaining his
(04:14):
championship because as you said, he is the greatest North
American and greatest North American champion, and I think they're
going to continue that to really help him elevate that title.
And he's just been he's been killing it, and I
can't see I can't see him losing.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, he is not a three time with the American Champion.
You know that, that of course is reserved for Johnny
Gargano because just like it always Johnny wins.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We all know this, We all know that means Johnny
also lost.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Three times, well, two times, three times, one time, one time.
The next one we're gonna go for the NXT Women's
North American Championship because Soul Ruga had to throw it
up to vacant, meaning it is left to her tag
dey partner Zaria to try and take it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Or is it Blake Monroe's time.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I'm very torn between who's gonna win because I want
to say the correct answers should be Zaria, but I
feel like it just makes sense to put it on
Blake while soul Ruka's not here.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But also are we.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Having Zaria win it to eventually see the divide of
sol Ruka and Zori. I'm I'm so torn between.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This on here's the question.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Would Zaria winning make her cause the divide because sol
Ruka because it's Solruga's title, or with Zaria losing it
and not actually keeping it safe, keeping it warm for
sol Ruka.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
With that divide?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
So is the divide where we're going or is it
just she's retaining to just retain so Soul has something
to do. I'm gonna go Zaria on this one.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'll say one thing about this. I don't necessarily think
that when someone like Soul Ruka goes down and they
have a vacant title. I don't necessarily know that Soul
Ruka is in their plans for who they pick a champion.
For example, I don't know if they're necessarily saying let's
go with Zaria because that sets so Rook up a
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feud with her, especially because I don't know if they
know how long it's gonna be. Not necessarily this champion
will remain champion when she gets back, you know. So,
I think if you go with Blake, you also have
other programs happening to the point where so I don't
necessarily think Soul's in the plans for whoever they go
with on this championship crowning match.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I do think it makes more sense to go with Blake, right.
It's a weird, yeah, from.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Their perspective anyway, I also see nothing but money with Zaria,
and I think a lot of people were confused in
general when she was putting a tag team, and like you,
I think they were jumping to when's the divide gonna happen?
Because we've got a powerhouse here who can be just
as explosive as anyone.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Correct. I do think that they're higher on Blake though.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And Blake's coming in and kind of she's on the
escalator right now, and I think so I think see,
I think she's gonna pass Zaria.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I do think Blake Monroe.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Also, it's one of those things where the fans are
obviously sad to see soul Ruka have to drop the title.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
They were loving her double tech title reign.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Everything about her is your screen star so good exactly.
So I think when the fans lose such a likable
champion like that, I don't know if they necessarily want
to give us another likable champion. I think they might
want to actually use our love for soul Ruka and
how far we saw her going against us by choosing
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someone they won't be cheering for.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Blake Monroe, the healing this and Blake.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Monroe somebody who can smile and shoe her finger and
rub her wins in your face because you doubted her
and didn't want her to win. So I think the
money is with Blake, and That's what I'm going with.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
I yeah, I'm very sorry. I think my prediction is
more hopeful in a way. But at the same time,
like you said, I agree with you in the sense
of giving it to Blake, because then when Souloka comes back,
she's coming for Blood and she's gonna come after that
title and she's gonna take it from Blake or try
to take it.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
From Right for the next one, it's gonna be, in
my humble opinion, the easiest card of the easiest match
to pick of the night could be wrong. You never know,
But Hardy Boys versus Dark State for the NXT Tag
Team Championships, I do say it's the easiest because it
just it doesn't feel like from the last time Dark
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State lost to them to now anything has happened to
change the landscape of this and where Dark States stand
other than the hardyway's becoming broken. Do I really think
they're going to be broken and lose immediately after becoming
that way.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I don't think so. I do. I did say you
never know, because once again, these are.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
The NXT Tag Team Championships, and the Hardy Boys are
not an NXT so really, anytime they're defending its NAFC
Tag team you kind of have that thought in your
head that the titles could come home. I don't think
this is the time, though, I think that it is
time to delete Dark State from the Tag Team Championship
Running and Hardy Boys for the DUB.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I agree with you. I think, especially with broken rules, especially.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
With them being broken, them.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Losing as broken the broken Hardies would make no sense.
Like it just doesn't. Even though I absolutely love dark
Steak and wanted dark State to have gold and wanted
them to keep it for as long as possible. I'm
sure they'll get it back eventually, but like you said,
this isn't the time, especially with broken rules. Do you
know how fun this match is going to be? Like
(09:49):
them winning dark State winning a broken rules match is
just silly to me, and it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And like you said, it's not the time.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
So I too, am going with the broken Hardies.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And I agree with you. I'm high on Dark State.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think rings are in all of their futures, but
there is no there there's no point in turning them
broken if that's where we're going with it, right And
this is also just another beautiful thing we get from
the merger, the partnership with TNA and WWE, and it's
one of those things we.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Never thought of. We all thought that we.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Might actually get Matt Cardona and NXT as Mac Tardona
the Downstate you know, the newer music, not the Zach
Brider music playing.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We all thought we could get that.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
We all thought we could get the rascals reuniting or
feuding or whatever from a partnership like that. It really
never occurred to me that all of a sudden, screw
the woken mess that we needed to get. When Matt
Hardy was in here and WW kind of watering down
his baby. No, it's broken, it's it's it's we we
(10:53):
get it. We we get exactly what they did. It's broken,
Matt Hardy, it is brother Nero.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
We oh they come.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I mean that's where they started. That's where this whole
TNA TNA got back on the map again because a
broken map. If you remember when that on his back,
he he went broken.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He put out that video.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I must have watched that video about five or six
times in a row because I couldn't get over this
nuts craziness that was happening.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
An actually correction, he did not put it on his back.
He put it on his family's back. Because I can't
thank you, Danielle.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
When I watched the NXT video of them coming back
being Broken again for the record, the editing, the production
detail was masterful. And I know in the past they've
all been done by the Hardy's themselves along with Jeremy Boresh.
I don't know if that happened again or if maybe
WW put their production touches on it, because we definitely
got up quality, but either way, it was beautiful. I
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popped for Senor Benjamin, I popped for the kids. I
popped for red Bee playing the piano. It was like,
I love everything about it. I really hope we get
a kangaroo and training videos. That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
But right, yeah, so this, I mean, this is fantastic
and I'm so looking forward to this.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And it's also one of.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Those things where like, even if the plan is to
get the titles back onto Dark State, let's say it's
not done for another NXC tag team to bring the
titles home.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It is really their future.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There's more fun to be had with Broken Hearty's versus
Dark State than just turning them broken into later dropping
the titles exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
This doesn't make sense. Let's go to our women's championship match.
We've got j C.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Jane.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
She'll be defending against Tatum.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Paxley God, I want Tatum to win so bad.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I think Tatum does a great job of making whoever
exits the crowd behind them more than they ever been before.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
J C remind jac reminds me of Rabbit from Eight
Mile Ah, where she's just is like, I know what
you're gonna say about me. I'm a transitional champion. I'm
the most beatable champion. I'm this, I'm this, I'm this,
And she names every single thing that all of us
have said, and she's just like.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yep, I was, but I was the NA champion.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I'm one of the longest ringing women's champion. I'm this,
I'm that, Like I couldn't constantly beat people and consistently
wrestle and have matches consistently.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And she's and you and she.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Just calls you idiots and makes you just mad that
she is still champion in a way that whoever her
opponent is, you want them to win so bad. But
on the other hand, Tatum Man, Tatum is so over
and everybody loves her like she is so over with you,
especially the NXT crowd.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
They love her.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
So I'm hoping she wins. I don't know if it's
now if you know what I'm going bold, I'm saying
because it's Hollywood Havoc and she's She's Wednesday Adam Esque
and it's Halloween, I'm going that Tatum is gonna win.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So here's where I'm going with fatal influences. With fatal influence,
getting a new member, you know, replacing having a replacement
coming in. This is a newer version. I think they
kind of have to have Laney pay dividends and continue
to be the difference maker. I think if they have
(14:23):
her join and then the next title defense he goes away,
I almost think it hurts the stable and it destins
the stable to fail. I don't think that's where they're
going yet. I think, like I said, new member equals
a stronger fatal influence, and I kind of think that
takes us into another successful title defense.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Or j C J.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I love Fatal Influence.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I love them.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I think they're and they don't come off as just
mean girls.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
They're just like badass.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Women, and I think the championship has a lot to
do with that that. I think if there were NXT
tag team titles for the women, I think there's a
chance we'd see that happening all over again. Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Can see that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
All right, Let's go into our main event. Will Trick
Willie reigns Supreme once again? Or does Ricky Saints defend
his NXT Championship. I gotta give. I gotta say Ricky
killed it with the promo this this day.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
He's so ready for this moment, so ready, and I
love watching him shine and I'm so happy he did
come to NXT and get this run.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Hey, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But I do think Ricky Saints will continue to be champion. Uh,
and and Trick Williams will fall.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I have to agree with you because I definitely think
that Ricky Saints is retaining.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I feel like Trick's going up soon.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
He should, right, I mean at this point, like he's
done everything, I feel so like, what's next? Uh, because
Javon Evans needs to creep up on that title man,
and that needs to be the next thing.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But at this.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Current time, at this current time, Ricky, Ricky definitely needs
to retain. He I mean, he just got it, So
I'm Ricky's definitely gonna retain at this point.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
He should the only he definitely should think of is
because the truth is and I and like it's one
of those where if Trick's not going up yet, right,
because you're right, if Trick is going up, then this
is one hundred percent what you do. You know, even
in NXT, you can kind of go on a bit
of a losing streak and it's not the end of
the world because it usually kind of just means they're
(16:42):
having you leave the brand on your back and go
and go up to the biggers.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't know that Trick gets called up at the
same time as over Femi if that's not happening both
around Royal Rumble season, Like, I don't see that. And
granted we're only a few months removed, but then it's
one of those like they give They usually will give
him a Royal Rumble spot, not actually call him up,
and then after Mania is when it becomes official type
of thing. So we're still far away from that for Trick.
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Trick just came off hiss TNA Championship reign. There's not
really a reason. I he I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Think he needed to be the guy to give Ricky
his first title win defense. Yes, exactly, title defense, Like,
I don't think that, Nah, I agree, I.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Because I know this sounds stupid, but I've already seen.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
This, Like I want something fresh, right, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
So it was kind of when Trick and Oba just
kept having fight after a fight, I'm like, I love
watching them.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And speaking of Oba, the fact that Oba was the
ruler and Ricky Saints beat him clean, and it was
we saw how many people fall to Oba? How many
times did we see Trick fall to Oba? So if
Ricky did slay the giant, it can't be Trick the
next the next paper just coming in and being I'm like,
oh yeah, And the only way it could happen is
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if they gave him a heel stable, which I thought
a while ago Dark State was going to get aligned
with him, and I thought that was a while ago.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I did.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I thought he was gonna be as the leader behind
them from the start.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I love them. I love the way they come into
the crowd. They scare me every time.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
There was staying I'm like, how'd you get there?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah? No, they're great.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this pay per view
a lot. If I miss Tony, I do miss Tony
D'Angelo and Luca. I will say that I miss them.
I miss my D'Angelo story. Man, I'm missing it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, they were killing it, oh so good.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
But yeah, I'm looking forward to this, and I hope
everybody else is too. Guys, thank you so much for
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Up just smart, not just smart, they're.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Not Ladies and gentlemen, fans and friends. We are back
once again. I am the custorian of charisma, the optimologist
and optimism. She is the sorcerers, subscess and the sulted.
I'm sorrycast, I am Brady, she is dead and yell together.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
We are the best best friends in all the land.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Together we are the heal Marks and we are back
because NXT Halloween Havoc is just around the corner, and
we are here with our predictions.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
That we are. I'm excited about this one. I'm gonna
snuggle up on my couch with my blankie and watch
this by having girl dinner.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
This is gonna be a good one. Let's get into it, Danielle.
This match was just made official. It's the most recent
match to enter the card where it's gonna be a
tag team match. Javon Evans and Leon Slater the inter
brand tag team TNA and NXT showing that we can
(01:46):
all be friends and they're taking on mister Iguana and
La Parca.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I am excited they just announced this. This is gonna
be super fun. Mister Iguana is so over, people love
him so much, and Javon Evans and Leon Slater so over,
Like everybody lamark. Everybody in this match is so over.
I can't wait for this match. I do think Javon
Evans and Leon Slater are going to come out on top.
(02:12):
I think they're probably gonna win, but that's gonna be
a fun match to watch.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It makes sense for them to win it being an
NXC pay per view as opposed to if this match
happened on a Triple A pay per view, I might
be picking differently. I also think Leon Slater is kind
of the s factor at all of this as well,
because technically, with Triple A being under the w umbrella,
Leon Slater is the only person who's not, so maybe
(02:37):
it does actually make sense for Leon Slater to take
the pin because the truth is NXT and Triple A
are both under W's umbrella. TNA is not TENA doesn't
have to be protected in this with I'm going with
Javon and Leon Slater.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I do think they're both being pushed.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Heavily right now, so it would very much for either
one of them to take the pinball.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
The only way I could see Leon having to take
the pin is to bring a divide between Javaon and
Leon to start like kind of a feud ish thing,
But it kind of doesn't make sense with what's lining up,
So I just think it's just gonna be a fun
match where they get the win.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Let's go with your boy, the NXC North American Champion,
Ethan Page. He's gonna be defending once again against a
Triple A representative. This is alhijo day, Doctor Wagner Junior.
I think that it will be Ethan Page retaining. I
do think that they've really been heating this feud up
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for a while. Ethan Page is in particular, really been
doing a great job of hyping this up, and I
think maybe that's gotten in my head and making me
convince myself there's a chance, but I just really don't
see it happening. And I do see Ethan Page retaining
because he's just killing it as North American Champion, being
the greatest North American in professional wrestling.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
He took the words right out of my mouth. He
is the greatest North American Champion that NXT has ever seen.
He's killing it, and I don't taking off the belt
off of him anytime soon would do anything except make
him very angry and make me very sad. So I
definitely think he's retaining, and I think they're really utilizing
him and having him beat everyone and keep retaining his
(04:14):
championship because as you said, he is the greatest North
American and greatest North American champion, and I think they're
going to continue that to really help him elevate that title.
And he's just been he's been killing it, and I
can't see I can't see him losing.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, he is not a three time with the American Champion.
You know that, that of course is reserved for Johnny
Gargano because just like it always Johnny wins.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We all know this, We all know that means Johnny
also lost.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Three times, well, two times, three times, one time, one time.
The next one we're gonna go for the NXT Women's
North American Championship because Soul Ruga had to throw it
up to vacant, meaning it is left to her tag
dey partner Zaria to try and take it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Or is it Blake Monroe's time.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I'm very torn between who's gonna win because I want
to say the correct answers should be Zaria, but I
feel like it just makes sense to put it on
Blake while soul Ruka's not here.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But also are we.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Having Zaria win it to eventually see the divide of
sol Ruka and Zori. I'm I'm so torn between.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This on here's the question.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Would Zaria winning make her cause the divide because sol
Ruka because it's Solruga's title, or with Zaria losing it
and not actually keeping it safe, keeping it warm for
sol Ruka.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
With that divide?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
So is the divide where we're going or is it
just she's retaining to just retain so Soul has something
to do. I'm gonna go Zaria on this one.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'll say one thing about this. I don't necessarily think
that when someone like Soul Ruka goes down and they
have a vacant title. I don't necessarily know that Soul
Ruka is in their plans for who they pick a champion.
For example, I don't know if they're necessarily saying let's
go with Zaria because that sets so Rook up a
(06:11):
feud with her, especially because I don't know if they
know how long it's gonna be. Not necessarily this champion
will remain champion when she gets back, you know. So,
I think if you go with Blake, you also have
other programs happening to the point where so I don't
necessarily think Soul's in the plans for whoever they go
with on this championship crowning match.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I do think it makes more sense to go with Blake, right.
It's a weird, yeah, from.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Their perspective anyway, I also see nothing but money with Zaria,
and I think a lot of people were confused in
general when she was putting a tag team, and like you,
I think they were jumping to when's the divide gonna happen?
Because we've got a powerhouse here who can be just
as explosive as anyone.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Correct. I do think that they're higher on Blake though.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And Blake's coming in and kind of she's on the
escalator right now, and I think so I think see,
I think she's gonna pass Zaria.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I do think Blake Monroe.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Also, it's one of those things where the fans are
obviously sad to see soul Ruka have to drop the title.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
They were loving her double tech title reign.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Everything about her is your screen star so good exactly.
So I think when the fans lose such a likable
champion like that, I don't know if they necessarily want
to give us another likable champion. I think they might
want to actually use our love for soul Ruka and
how far we saw her going against us by choosing
(07:43):
someone they won't be cheering for.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Blake Monroe, the healing this and Blake.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Monroe somebody who can smile and shoe her finger and
rub her wins in your face because you doubted her
and didn't want her to win. So I think the
money is with Blake, and That's what I'm going with.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
I yeah, I'm very sorry. I think my prediction is
more hopeful in a way. But at the same time,
like you said, I agree with you in the sense
of giving it to Blake, because then when Souloka comes back,
she's coming for Blood and she's gonna come after that
title and she's gonna take it from Blake or try
to take it.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
From Right for the next one, it's gonna be, in
my humble opinion, the easiest card of the easiest match
to pick of the night could be wrong. You never know,
But Hardy Boys versus Dark State for the NXT Tag
Team Championships, I do say it's the easiest because it
just it doesn't feel like from the last time Dark
(08:38):
State lost to them to now anything has happened to
change the landscape of this and where Dark States stand
other than the hardyway's becoming broken. Do I really think
they're going to be broken and lose immediately after becoming
that way.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I don't think so. I do. I did say you
never know, because once again, these are.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
The NXT Tag Team Championships, and the Hardy Boys are
not an NXT so really, anytime they're defending its NAFC
Tag team you kind of have that thought in your
head that the titles could come home. I don't think
this is the time, though, I think that it is
time to delete Dark State from the Tag Team Championship
Running and Hardy Boys for the DUB.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I agree with you. I think, especially with broken rules, especially.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
With them being broken, them.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Losing as broken the broken Hardies would make no sense.
Like it just doesn't. Even though I absolutely love dark
Steak and wanted dark State to have gold and wanted
them to keep it for as long as possible. I'm
sure they'll get it back eventually, but like you said,
this isn't the time, especially with broken rules. Do you
know how fun this match is going to be? Like
(09:49):
them winning dark State winning a broken rules match is
just silly to me, and it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And like you said, it's not the time.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
So I too, am going with the broken Hardies.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And I agree with you. I'm high on Dark State.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think rings are in all of their futures, but
there is no there there's no point in turning them
broken if that's where we're going with it, right And
this is also just another beautiful thing we get from
the merger, the partnership with TNA and WWE, and it's
one of those things we.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Never thought of. We all thought that we.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Might actually get Matt Cardona and NXT as Mac Tardona
the Downstate you know, the newer music, not the Zach
Brider music playing.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We all thought we could get that.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
We all thought we could get the rascals reuniting or
feuding or whatever from a partnership like that. It really
never occurred to me that all of a sudden, screw
the woken mess that we needed to get. When Matt
Hardy was in here and WW kind of watering down
his baby. No, it's broken, it's it's it's we we
(10:53):
get it. We we get exactly what they did. It's broken,
Matt Hardy, it is brother Nero.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
We oh they come.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I mean that's where they started. That's where this whole
TNA TNA got back on the map again because a
broken map. If you remember when that on his back,
he he went broken.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
He put out that video.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I must have watched that video about five or six
times in a row because I couldn't get over this
nuts craziness that was happening.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
An actually correction, he did not put it on his back.
He put it on his family's back. Because I can't
thank you, Danielle.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
When I watched the NXT video of them coming back
being Broken again for the record, the editing, the production
detail was masterful. And I know in the past they've
all been done by the Hardy's themselves along with Jeremy Boresh.
I don't know if that happened again or if maybe
WW put their production touches on it, because we definitely
got up quality, but either way, it was beautiful. I
(11:48):
popped for Senor Benjamin, I popped for the kids. I
popped for red Bee playing the piano. It was like,
I love everything about it. I really hope we get
a kangaroo and training videos. That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
But right, yeah, so this, I mean, this is fantastic
and I'm so looking forward to this.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And it's also one of.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Those things where like, even if the plan is to
get the titles back onto Dark State, let's say it's
not done for another NXC tag team to bring the
titles home.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It is really their future.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There's more fun to be had with Broken Hearty's versus
Dark State than just turning them broken into later dropping
the titles exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
This doesn't make sense. Let's go to our women's championship match.
We've got j C.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Jane.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
She'll be defending against Tatum.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Paxley God, I want Tatum to win so bad.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I think Tatum does a great job of making whoever
exits the crowd behind them more than they ever been before.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
J C remind jac reminds me of Rabbit from Eight
Mile Ah, where she's just is like, I know what
you're gonna say about me. I'm a transitional champion. I'm
the most beatable champion. I'm this, I'm this, I'm this,
And she names every single thing that all of us
have said, and she's just like.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yep, I was, but I was the NA champion.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I'm one of the longest ringing women's champion. I'm this,
I'm that, Like I couldn't constantly beat people and consistently
wrestle and have matches consistently.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And she's and you and she.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Just calls you idiots and makes you just mad that
she is still champion in a way that whoever her
opponent is, you want them to win so bad. But
on the other hand, Tatum Man, Tatum is so over
and everybody loves her like she is so over with you,
especially the NXT crowd.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
They love her.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
So I'm hoping she wins. I don't know if it's
now if you know what I'm going bold, I'm saying
because it's Hollywood Havoc and she's She's Wednesday Adam Esque
and it's Halloween, I'm going that Tatum is gonna win.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So here's where I'm going with fatal influences. With fatal influence,
getting a new member, you know, replacing having a replacement
coming in. This is a newer version. I think they
kind of have to have Laney pay dividends and continue
to be the difference maker. I think if they have
(14:23):
her join and then the next title defense he goes away,
I almost think it hurts the stable and it destins
the stable to fail. I don't think that's where they're
going yet. I think, like I said, new member equals
a stronger fatal influence, and I kind of think that
takes us into another successful title defense.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Or j C J.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I love Fatal Influence.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I love them.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I think they're and they don't come off as just
mean girls.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
They're just like badass.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Women, and I think the championship has a lot to
do with that that. I think if there were NXT
tag team titles for the women, I think there's a
chance we'd see that happening all over again. Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Can see that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
All right, Let's go into our main event. Will Trick
Willie reigns Supreme once again? Or does Ricky Saints defend
his NXT Championship. I gotta give. I gotta say Ricky
killed it with the promo this this day.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
He's so ready for this moment, so ready, and I
love watching him shine and I'm so happy he did
come to NXT and get this run.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Hey, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But I do think Ricky Saints will continue to be champion. Uh,
and and Trick Williams will fall.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I have to agree with you because I definitely think
that Ricky Saints is retaining.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I feel like Trick's going up soon.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
He should, right, I mean at this point, like he's
done everything, I feel so like, what's next? Uh, because
Javon Evans needs to creep up on that title man,
and that needs to be the next thing.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But at this.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Current time, at this current time, Ricky, Ricky definitely needs
to retain. He I mean, he just got it, So
I'm Ricky's definitely gonna retain at this point.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
He should the only he definitely should think of is
because the truth is and I and like it's one
of those where if Trick's not going up yet, right,
because you're right, if Trick is going up, then this
is one hundred percent what you do. You know, even
in NXT, you can kind of go on a bit
of a losing streak and it's not the end of
the world because it usually kind of just means they're
(16:42):
having you leave the brand on your back and go
and go up to the biggers.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't know that Trick gets called up at the
same time as over Femi if that's not happening both
around Royal Rumble season, Like, I don't see that. And
granted we're only a few months removed, but then it's
one of those like they give They usually will give
him a Royal Rumble spot, not actually call him up,
and then after Mania is when it becomes official type
of thing. So we're still far away from that for Trick.
(17:12):
Trick just came off hiss TNA Championship reign. There's not
really a reason. I he I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Think he needed to be the guy to give Ricky
his first title win defense. Yes, exactly, title defense, Like,
I don't think that, Nah, I agree, I.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Because I know this sounds stupid, but I've already seen.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
This, Like I want something fresh, right, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
So it was kind of when Trick and Oba just
kept having fight after a fight, I'm like, I love
watching them.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And speaking of Oba, the fact that Oba was the
ruler and Ricky Saints beat him clean, and it was
we saw how many people fall to Oba? How many
times did we see Trick fall to Oba? So if
Ricky did slay the giant, it can't be Trick the
next the next paper just coming in and being I'm like,
oh yeah, And the only way it could happen is
(18:03):
if they gave him a heel stable, which I thought
a while ago Dark State was going to get aligned
with him, and I thought that was a while ago.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I did.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I thought he was gonna be as the leader behind
them from the start.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I love them. I love the way they come into
the crowd. They scare me every time.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
There was staying I'm like, how'd you get there?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah? No, they're great.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this pay per view
a lot. If I miss Tony, I do miss Tony
D'Angelo and Luca. I will say that I miss them.
I miss my D'Angelo story. Man, I'm missing it.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, they were killing it, oh so good.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
But yeah, I'm looking forward to this, and I hope
everybody else is too. Guys, thank you so much for
tuning in. If you don't already, follow us at the
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