Episode 72

Ken and Stephanie discuss some actual heavy topics and some lighter fare as well. It’s a bit of a Valentine’s Day roller coaster for sure!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Heavy Valentine's Day, just keep it going.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, look at that, Look at that.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Finally it's like seventy something episodes. I finally got the
first work.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh Godephane, it's how we start. It's how we start
the show. Every time. It's like sometimes so there's on
these shows people people must think like, I am such
a fucking douchebag asshole, I can't even got the first work.
All you ever have to say is hey, can I
say something? Of course?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
What the fuck do I care?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh my god, holy shit, whatever, welcome back, welcome back,
here we go again. I'm ken and I guess Stephanie
is so fucking down trodden in life. Yes, you just
I've just I've just kept you down. I've just kept
you like I might as well have kept you in

(00:53):
a cage. I don't like.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I've finally released you.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
And through just sheer, will power and manipulation, you were
able to finally get the first word on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Seventy second episode.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Seventy second episode. And do you know the number of
times that we've started where you've literally blurted something out
like you had.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Turette's before we start the show.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
So if you I've said to you, Hey, you want
to do you want to do the intro?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
You want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh, no, I don't. I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that. It just starts shouting, Well,
what a happy Valentine's Day it is.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
It's been a really nice Valentine's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
But before we get to all that Valentine's jazz, because
we'll be talking about it forever, let me say congratulations
to the Philadelphia Eagles. I wore my green pants. The
game was whatever. I thought, the halftime show was good.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That is the super Bowl. And we were moving on.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
To why we have to hear even talk about it.
I said, nobody wants to hear about the super Bowl.
You're like, no, I've got to talk. I'll just talk
about it. That'll be my thing. I didn't realize it
was that's the super Bowl and that's my story and
I'm sticking to it. Yeah, I mean that we even
mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
It sucked. The game, like hanging out with everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's like, yeah, no, because like pop culture and whatever, and.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
No, the the the part of like the super Bowl party,
that was like the best part of super Bowl. I
had the day off from work because we had snow day,
which was like crazy, and then we went to my
cousin's house.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That was good. Everything was fun. Food was good.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
The game was good. Like it wasn't like a bad
game or anything.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It was.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was boring. It was a terrible game.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I mean for me, I had great conversation. So it
was like a great conversation game for.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Me because I got to talk to all my cousins.
I got to you know, chatting about stuff just with everyone.
You got to chat with people like you didn't feel
like you couldn't talk to anyone and you didn't have
to be quiet.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
That was nice. So my volume wasn't intake. We had
puppies running around. It was great. It was a super
We had new people come that was nice. That was good.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
New people. Yeah, oh yeah yeah sorry. I was like
when you say people, I'm thinking, like, but whatever, I
get you.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, So it was it was good.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Well that's all nice.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
And and and you know.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Sometimes in life people second guess themselves and that's sad.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And I second guessed myself. I was like, oh, I was.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Like racking my brain on like a good like Super
Bowls snack to bring and it's like, oh, I wanted
to do this and do that, but like I knew
I was going to have to work because I didn't
like the snowstorm. We didn't know we were kind of
clothes or whatever. So last minute, like after just going
mindless of like not thinking of anything, I was like,

(04:13):
I'm gonna make these checks mix, like these lemon muddy
buddy things.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
And I used a red velvet. I tell you, people
loved it.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
And then I made another one and it was just
off the back of the box and I didn't think
it came out good, but you and my other cousin
thought it came out good, so.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
It was Yeah, it was It was like snacking perfection
to me because one it was like the way you
I canologize, you can work on. I don't know why
I'm even still surprised after fifteen years, but it was

(04:57):
like sweet because you use sweet checks mix like strawberry
and blueberry.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
The way one of them was mixed with pretzels.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Oh yeah, that was when I thought came out bad.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, No, it was really good.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
It was like it was sweet and but it had
like a crunch to it, so it was kind of
like you were eating like sweet chips. I don't know
it was, and there weren't a lot of other there
were really no other snacks that I could eat.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh yeah, because like you don't need like chips and stuff,
and I'm not sure I didn't.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Really there was really no dessert. I ate a.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Big I made.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
We had like make your own burreatables, and there was
chili and I made myself.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
A for my and and I had chili and that
was it. I didn't even have buffalo chicken dip.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I definitely, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Don't like that, but yeah, yeah, And then I made
some Brussels sprouts. I was snacking while I was like
making stuff. So it's like I knew the checks mix was.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Like okay, like was good when I made it, and
then oh Jesus, I don't know what the buk happened.
I feel so bad. I I talked. I talked to
one of.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
My cousins the day after. He was asking like, oh,
is this like a pre mix.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, let's set this up because people don't know what happened.
So Stephanie for the super Bowl party, yeah, decided one
of the things she wanted to bring was her own drink,
and she wanted to do well espresso espresso martiniz but
like pre make them in like bulk, put them in
bottles like that we had and everything else so went through.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
We kind of like had to really work to.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Figure out just the right amount to make a bigger batch.
You know, it's one thing to make one drink, but
then when you started thinking, okay, I've got to do
for five.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
You don't want to make like too crazy strong and
like disgusted.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
But it kept fucking curdling and separating in the battle.
Everything was clean, everything was it.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Was I think it was that damn express like I
made like fresh espresso and I.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Should have it.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
It was instant, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Instant, that's all we had.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, because you know what stings is the espresso part
of our machine.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I don't think it's working.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
So it's like I didn't even try. I should just
try to use it and just take the leak, but
I didn't let it Like cool cool, But anyways, so yeah,
I kept on curling. But one bottle came out good,
but it was so strong and I had to write
strong on it.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, and it it totally was fine. Everything was smooth.
Like that was the only one that came out good.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
We would have been better like learning now. It's just
it would just have been easier. But he bring my
text this morning, so I don't know if you drank
it or if you dumped it, but yeah, what I
was saying, just next, I will just bring this ship
over to make them, and if somebody wants one, here
you go. Here's the ship to make it. If I
went to somebody's house and I could just add three

(08:13):
things together and get a fucking brownie, I would you
know what I mean, It's it's not a big deal.
I know, it's like it was a good idea to
try to pre make it.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, it was just like that was the case.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Places would just have pre mixed drinks and they just pour.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well they do, and it's like you could have been
like I was trying to spress some martinis.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, they them in those like probably boozy, but no,
I've seen they make so many.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Pre mixed drinks like that at the liquor store. No, honey,
like at the bar, like I think about it, wouldn't
it be easier if the bar gallon of they could espress.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I've never seen them.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, I know, I'm out. Yeah, I'm not saying that
they do.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
What I'm saying is we're trying to go against what
nobody else does.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It just didn't come out good. So it was whatever.
So that but can we pause it just for a second.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Okay, so we're back.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
We're not talking about super Bowl anymore because we've been
gone for like probably like twenty ish minutes.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I got a phone call that could not go to voicemail.
And unfortunately, there's so many.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Times that I get calls that I think cannot go
to voicemail, and I come with a lot of.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Baggage.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
You want to talk about this on No, I don't
want to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
It was just not the specifics, not the specifics.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
But let's have a real life.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Happened in the middle of our podcast.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
And let's have a real a real conversation and by.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Talking here we go.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah again, But by talking about it, you know, and
putting it out there, I mean, this is this is
real life. You know. Anybody takes a chance of coming
across like like an asshole, but you're not.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I mean, not to me.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
No, Sometimes I think for me specifically and I don't
maybe other guys go through it maybe other women go
through it, like you and your stuff overall kind of
dominates like pretty much our entire life. Well some like

(10:33):
like everything. It's like everything that's in our The.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
One part that like kind dominates is like a tricky part.
We're not even going to bring up like that because
it's like you've got.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
A fee and I want people to know, like Sephanie
wanted to discuss this because it is it's real conversations.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's like a real it's a real thing that like
is in our relationship that there are a lot of
different people that.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Like everything is in the background, Like I all yours.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
In the background. I look like, oh my god, she's
like so whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
But I have like like not sixteen, but I have
like sixteen different people like pulling at me like aggressively
on a daily basis that like can unfortunately gets the
backburner to like under me unfortunately, and like a lot
of like situations.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's not fair.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. I understand each of the things.
I come at it from a like and it's something
I've had to work on. I think most people would
you know what I mean. And I've just come to
accept like certain things. But the reality is it is

(11:47):
it is hard sometimes because like I said, you not
by anything you've done, but you do like control like
like all like kind of all of it. Like where
we're at do you think no, no, God, but listen

(12:10):
from hold on but from like no and I And
this is what sucks because it's like and I bet
and I'll be honest, like I have no alternatives to
the things I'm going to to say. But it's like
we like for super Bowl, I love, I love I
want to make sure everybody knows I love love love

(12:32):
your family. But that's where we go for super Bowl,
I hold on. This is the thing during the week,
it's like, oh, we're going to this thing that you
wanted to do, Like our schedules are tied, like everything

(12:53):
is Like I just because of the nature of my
job and who I am, I put zero pressure on
you and our life zero.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I create our entire social life.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
But it's not so it's yours. It's just your But
I you want to socialize.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I incorporate you in my social.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Which is nice. You don't you know, like leave like
just be like, oh I.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Don't I don't invite you, Like Okay, So last night.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
We went to yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Let's say, let's say straight up and again I have
no issue with it.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
We went to good Point.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
We went to a musical for someone I work with.
He's in high school at the restaurant right.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Again, and so it was one of those things where.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
They put it out like this is when the musical is,
who wants to go?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I wanted to go because I was like I like
that stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
And I was like proud, like not proud, but you
know what I mean, like excited for him.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Right, So whatever.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
So I said to you a month before it, Hey,
so and so is in this play gang tickets this night?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Would you want to go? I want to go? Would
you want to go? Like, we can go? And you
were like, and that's going to your Valentine's Day?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
You won't, Okay. When I came from the Deep South,
I'm sure if people have heard my voice like okay,
well I.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Don't sound like Miss Boogie when you do it. So
I was like, Okay, well that's not Valentine's Day. It's
the thirteenth and it's in the town over, So do
you want to go or do you not want to go?
Like if you don't want to go, we can discuss
it and go from there, and.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
You're like, no, I'll go, yeah, I said, and I
went went.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
But I wanted you to go with be like I
want to go to watch it.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
But it's like I like that you were there with me,
like experiencing, like I like to do things with you.
I didn't say like, oh, come with me, and then
I completely ignored you and like left you.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, it's not like it's not like Christmas parties in
years past. So that was that was nice. That was
a big improvement.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
That was definitely.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
That's actually, yeah, you've.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Grown, You've grown one hundred Yeah. No, because I and
listen from your point, it's like, well, I want to
go to this, so that means you're gonna go, which
is fine. I don't I don't care. But if I
want to, if I want to spend time with you,
and we don't know that Thursday night, hold.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
On, no, we didn't know that that day I would
have any client because I know it didn't It didn't
really matter.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's just like, if I want to spend time with
you on that Thursday night, I have to go watch
a high school production of Footloose, which is great. That's
all and honey, you know what, honestly, that's all that
really matters, righted it.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'm not Doug like I'm not Doug.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'm not our dog. Where it's like you bring me
like I want.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
You as long as you brought me snacks, like I
should just be I should just be happy to go
along to all these things like we ended up at
like some it's like for co work, like and again,
if anybody listens, like I have no I really don't
have a problem.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's just like, oh, this night we're going to like
out to some restaurant to support like a coworker doing something.
We're like always doing something for fucking stranger. I don't
want to give. I don't want to give fucking ship
to anybody. Like it starts in home. I want to

(16:53):
give to me. I don't want to, like listen, I
suppose I support dreams, I'll fucking I'll burn some sage
for a mother. I'm just tired of supporting people financially.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, actually we didn't buy those tickets. That was like
that was actually gifted.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's great. So that was my time.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
So that was it started home then like whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
You ain't ever get a fucking except like, this is
our except honey, I just heard generationally some lack like
this is. This is generations generations of like, I accept.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Why you're I'm not doing nothing wrong. Well, no, I'm
just saying.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I'm just saying for you that you know you're saying like, oh, giving, giving, giving,
but we didn't actually give last night.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Nope, nobody else.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And I want to make sure these people that you
work with. And I'm not bitching about going to the
platt I'm really not. Like, listen, if that was if
that was you know, my kid and he was in
that play and everybody came out and support, I would
be so grateful. And I'm not talking about that at all.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
No, no, no, I really.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
This is literally just me reaching a little bit of
a boiling point of wow, I know, well, I mean,
you took a thirty minute call, and I'm not judging
based on who it was and what it was about
and all that, but it's like it's twenty one minute.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
On the daily.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Sometimes I'm just like, I know, somebody's calling, hold on,
somebody's calling.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Unfortunately for me, the ones that I actually do need
to answer, they get like drummed down because I take
all the other ones.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I probably don't need to answer.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Every time somebody calls you. You don't know what the
situation could be. Of course you do and listen the
one time and I would, I'd probably blow my brains
out if you didn't take a call one time and
it was a fucking major emergency and you miss something.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
My dad had a heart.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
That was the one time I didn't take and I
had nothing to do with me. You just had your
ringer off.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, I just have Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Unless when i'm as I'm talking like, I don't want
to sound like a selfish fucking cunt about time.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
It's like it's only we don't have time together.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's just sometimes it does suck because it.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Is like very overwhelming sometimes, and unfortunately it's been very
overwhelming for like a long scaling balance.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I know it's not balanced in our time together.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
In essence, you've never had to deal with like fucking
like like anything. I bring like nothing to the table.
I mean, I'm divorced, so I have an x Y,
I have kids like so that that's a major thing.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Don't get me wrong. I'm not gonna not.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Claim that that's been a huge thing, but that's been
like years and years and in years, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Ye, So, but yeah, it just.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's just a tricky and it's like, listen, it's probably
some fucking weird psychological ship that I've got built in
from how I grew up and how I was raised,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Like I say this and like not like a bad
way because again, like as we're saying all these different things,
it's it's probably just like a control thing.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's not control, honey, I'm not looking for control of
any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
You're not, but like you don't have control of it.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Wait, so all of this is now back on.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
No no, no, no, It's like it's kind of like
I can't how that all this drama comes with Wow.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, okay, that would be a good marriage counseling topic.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Okay, yeah without me like going into like the exact
specifics of our life, Like I'm not.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Going to and this is just for discussion just like.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
A real time like like you hurd us how we
were before.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Like life happens in real time. So it is what
it is.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
But yeah, it's not my fault that like certain things
come to me and.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's like I choose.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I choose to take the calls because I know that
I'm already an overthinker, so I don't want to like
overthink more and then like not be in a whatever spot,
Like I'd rather just deal with everything again in real
time because I can just I'd rather just take the
like weirdness right and talk through it and.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Get through it and be like, Okay, this is fine.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
But that's like a lot for you, because unfortunately that
takes time out of our life.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
The irony is the one thing you don't overthink about
is how I might react.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
And it's honestly, it's not even that. It's because like.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
The one of the more important I know I'm sounding
like No.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
It's like it's probably because you're very like honest with me,
and like as much as I'm not scared to like
quote unquote hurt your feelings, you're not. No, no, no,
you're not just the way you said, I know you're
not scared to quote unquote hurt my feelings. Like it's

(22:36):
because it's not a malicious thing. It's like you telling
me that you're upset with how you're feeling.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, that's that's not like a true.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Attack on me, like you're just you're just being honest,
But at the same time, it's like, well, I can't
help it, like.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
They're not things that you and listen. I want to
make sure again it's important. And I do think these
conversations is as unfun as they They're not like someone.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
They like to hear true relationship arguments because sometimes like
people go through these things and it's like you feel
like you're an asshole for thinking about things. It's like
you're not an asshole for like having emotions and having feelings.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's like good to.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Talk about it because it's like I'm not an asshole
for being like, well, these are things I like, or
that like this is my life, I have to do this.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You are not like if we it would be a
thousand percent different if we were in the middle of
the podcast and you were like, oh wait, hold on,
pause that I got to call somebody you're on the
phone for, or like we're hanging out and you're all
of a sudden you're like, oh, hold on, I have
to go make this call. And it's like these are

(23:47):
people calling you. I understand all the background on.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
All the stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, obviously, and listen we're not talking like I'm sure
like anything you could you could easily be sood that's like, oh,
so and so called I'm leaving by and you could
just be gone like whatever, and like that's your prerogative. Yeah,
you know, so whatever it is. It's not like the
end of the world, Okay. I just sometimes it's it's

(24:13):
such like a fucking loser mentality. But sometimes it's like
you fucking.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Lose your shit.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
If I brought like this like all this time, if
I was constantly like hold on, I got it, somebody's
calling me.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I've had that happen.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I've gone through times where I like went through one
thing where I was getting like a bunch of phone
calls and you were like literally annoyed that that person
was calling.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Like again, we'll.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Talk about it off air, but it's like you were
literally like, oh my god, calling again, Like what the
fuck was it?

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Like that it was probably like the secrecy, yes, and
it was literally.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
But it doesn't matter. It was my drama in my ship.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
And you made me feel like the no and it wasn't. See.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's the difference because like, again we're not going into
like our nitty gritty.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
But with that situation.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I accepted all the phone calls in the times that
you were gone. The problem that I was having was
the subject, the same way you have a problem with
a lot of my subject and what they're calling about.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
For because not to go into specifics.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
With no, no, no, with with that situation. Instead of trying
to like make it be such a hush hush thing,
it became such a hush hush thing that it was.
It was like weird, right, So it was it again
like we can't like go into anything.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
So it's I get that, but like I had no.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Problem that, like you were actually getting the calls and
being taken away or like going away to certain things.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
That wasn't the issue.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
It was just how that person was making me feel.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Like an outsider, right right. And again it's like hard
to like no, no, because that's like a whole.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Other like yea, because it's I'm not I don't want
to take it back to be like, oh, I'm not
the problem too, because that's not it because it's like, again,
I know that I do take a lot of these
things or like I make us do certain things because
it's like, yes, this is what I want to do.
I mean I think the phrase is Deephie does what

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she wants, like still goes on in life.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's it sucks, but like you let me, you let
me be.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Like, well I'm nobody. I'm not here to like stop
you from doing anything.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, you're like the only person who's ever done that
who's like literally never like made me feel bad for
being myself.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just you'll just have to certain times they'll just I
don't know, I don't know how to phrase it without
being you can just phrase everitt it's just like, well,
I'm a lot I think I think with every like
sometimes it's like like I was saying about the case,
like the last thing you overthink about I think sometimes
is me.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Because you're like the most stable thing in my life.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I know, but I'm still like a human being.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I know, but I think it's because but I think
it's because you're the most honest person with me in
my life that I can like.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
But how honest can I be about certain things? When
it's like I understand the context of these calls. So
it's like I don't want to ever come across like
a monster. No, I know you know what I mean,
Like I would I would feel like that was.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Just just like it was just like literally bad.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
All was literally everything that you get on a daily basis.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
It's the same person. It's just it was the same thing.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
It was the same it was literally no, but it
was literally the same person. And it's like, yeah, probably
are we listening to right now, but it is, you're listening.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
To a real couple having an issue with Like, if
you listen to the beginning of the episode, everything was good.
I had to take a call that was like oudn
like before I even answered, it was like it could
have been one or two things. One was good too,
would have been like detrimental to my life. So I
didn't know what I was about to get. And unfortunately

(28:31):
for me, that's where in life and this is like.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, we could have been could have been at dinner.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, And this is like where it's question, this is
where it's difficult for you in our relationship when things
like that happen in life. I think about Stephanie and
I have to do what Stephanie needs to do because
if I don't, the rest of my night will truly
be way worse. Because again, yeah, I didn't know what

(29:01):
I was about to hear. And then I would have
felt guilty, like I would have had my own thing.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
And unfortunately, because like you and I.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Are so secure in our relationship and I can handle
anything that comes at you and I when it's together,
that like, I'm willing to take whatever happens. I didn't
realize it was going to go that long. That was
kind of like surprising. But I had to take like
a win sadly in that in that chapter, because I've

(29:31):
just been getting losses, yeah, all the time, So I
had to take the win for like a minute because
it's really not probably a win anyways, though it's like
a whole thing, but it's like because you and I
are like secure again and able to.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Like just air this shit out and talk about it.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think from one thing, I would I will never
hear about it, but I'd be curious just and I'll
say from well, I'll say from a husband's point of view,
because it's like I do kind of feel like maybe
this is relatively common, but people can correct me if
I'm wrong. But you know, I think sometimes in general,

(30:19):
when I've seen like women have all the all the stuff,
and it's like you hold on, no, no, no, I just
sometimes I'm on guard to like make sure I keep
talking before like hit a speed bump. But the reality
like sometimes like all your shit that you're stressed about

(30:40):
and you're going through and overthinking or in your head
whatever it is, well, don't forget it's also in my
head and I have my own stuff. And then when
in our particular relationship, sometimes when I do talk about
my own stuff, that's when you literally tell me to
stop talking because you can't handle.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
You literally can't handle. So I have like.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Zero It's like I know and I but it's like this.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Guy still about what Stephanie wants it.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Because I do. I do know it, and I like
we go through it so much and I feel so bad, but.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't think you don't think I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Of course you don't.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
That's aggressed.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's not aggressive. I'm just being honest.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I don't think. I don't think you. I think when you.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
You're doing you, I think you're doing you. It's all
like like you literally said it, like this is this
is Stephanie needs to do this.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah I can, I can handle like you, and I
like talking through ship like it sucks, like but what
am I gonna do?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Like nothing you can do? It is it is important?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Like some of it's important, some of it's not.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
How about that that's your opinion that some of it's.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
That could have been very important the call I acknowledge that, Yeah,
I'm not a I'm not a complete fucking degenerate. Some
of the other dailies A hundred not not critical.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
But unfortunately, because of that situation.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
And the.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And the communication is like so lax.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
I I would over I would like overthink my brain
to like combustion, and it sucks.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
So it's like that sucks.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
But that's again like I'm not gonna go into that
ship that also like comes with you listen. I, well, yeah,
I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's so I'm not I'm not disagreeing at all. I'm
not disagreeing at all.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
I totally get it.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
You know, Okay, I don't. I don't want to stop
this conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
No, I mean it's not like great like fun, but
I think I.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Think I potentially have a segue.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Oh what about breaking up on Valentine's Day? Is that
the second thing we had on our list is that
we want.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
To talk about. I thought about.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
This, Oh you thought about breaking up? Right? No, what
Stephanie wants.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I thought about this this morning when we were having brush.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Stephanie says, we're at brunch.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
There's so many babies.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
There was a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
There was a lot of people at at brunch, and
Stephanie literally says, oh, do you think any of these
people are here to break up?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I said, I wonder how many people are going to break.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Up here to like why would they go to breakfast
or brunch to break up?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Was on Valve.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's like, like I was saying, like I think if
you wanted to break up with something, I mean Valentine's
Days on a Friday.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
You can make it through the weekend.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm not saying, you know, if it's a bad situation
or whatever, like, but if it's just like, yeah, this
person's kind of like just wa.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, if you purposely waited to like break up with
someone on Valentine's.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Day, because like maybe you're trying to get off with
like go to the next person on Valentine's.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Like, Yo, that's shitty, Like that's crazy, like what you like,
But if you realize, like if all of a sudden,
like you're at dinner and you're like, oh my god,
why the fuck am I even in this relationship?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Like what where did I go?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Have?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
All the time? How did I like that?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
What? What did you say?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
It said?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
They interrupt me all the time. I think, oh, oh,
I'm getting things mixed up.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
But yeah, like okay, it's like okay, maybe not don't
do it there, Like maybe just like exactly wait till
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You could, you could probably get through. You could.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, the people who like break up because.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
If you're breaking up, like depending on the level of
like breakup, but like you know, you've gone out a
few times, like don't break up on Valentine's Day, just
wait till like Sunday, you know what I mean, wait
till the sixteenth.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I think I did that.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Okay, good for you, but that's that's my advice. But
I mean to really break up on it, Like why
that's shitty. I think that means you're the problem. If
you're breaking up with somebody on Valentine's Day, you're the problem.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Most likely, Well, right, I guess it depends the situation
unless you abusive relationship. Yeah, I guess if you were,
if you were in like, let's we'll take up yearlot
it but like to say yours, like in a bad relationship,
like everyone kind of knows, like one of those relationships
were like what the hell if the.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Other person's a real ship bag break up with them
on Christmas morning? I don't.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, I think like maybe it's like and like you
could you know.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
What it is? It is because the words break up
feels different than leaving. Breakup sounds so like basic, like
so like I think we've been going out a couple
of times, we just broke up, Like we just broke up.
But if you're like, I'm gonna leave you, leaving is
different than breaking up.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Leaving is right, that permento is a what permanent?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Permanent?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
That's not even like a different.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, if you're like, like I'm leaving you, that's extra
shitty on Valentine's Day. But sometimes if you're leaving, like
you have your reasons, you gotta go, you got to stick.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Up having to say the whole I'm leaving and walking out,
Oh Billy, that's tough.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I wish.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
These are times I wish I was like a native
American and I could have just sent smoke signals like
a real bitch.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Way of doing it.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
But I put that, you know, message, and this guy
gets some squaw pissed off, Like nobody wants to have
that conversation sometimes, But isn't it crazy, Like they'll tell
you like the stages of mourning somebody you could like
you could be over somebody, like they'll give you, like

(37:29):
work will give you three bereavement days. After three days,
you should be over the loss of somebody and you
could be back to work. Well, But then relationships, they're
completely like you'll never see that person ever again.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
And it's like.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
If they're dead, oh the dead people you will like
my party, if somebody's died, you'll never see them again,
Like that's a fucking major blow.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Here's three days.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
But with a relationship, people are more scared sometimes to
end a relationship than they are for people to die.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah that's right, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'll never get over this, Like it could be years
to get over somebody over a relationship versus And I think,
remember we through Grammy in the ground.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, it's like I don't think. I mean that's how
other people like move on.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I mean like there's some things where it's like I
don't think you'll ever move on from certain things. I mean,
I haven't accepted my grandmother's death and that was like
when I was in the sixth grade.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
I still think that I was wrong on a daily basis.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I mean that's like you probably like that I've like
I've let it go, but there's still like I don't
think I'm still like fully over it.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I was just listening to a podcast who was it
was it? Who was it?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
That was just saying, oh.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
It was it was Leanne and Bert and Leanne was
literally like, you know, she goes, I lost my grandmother.
She was eighty someone years old. She was like, I
lost her like eight years ago. And the other day
I'm just sitting in traffic, I'm just crying in the
car thinking about how I lost.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
My grand Oh my god, I can't. I can't even imagine.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Like when my nana, like now, she's told me a
million times she's asked God to take her and he's
not ready for her.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I've known this one for fifteen years, somebody, she's been
asking God to take her since she was in her
fucking sixties.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
But like I literally.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
I I'm like the only grant and like if any
grandchild questions it, like come at me, bro. But I'm
like the only one that's like super duper close with her,
like I have.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I have called her throughout.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
All the stages in my life and seeing her and
just dealt with like nervous nana and all the all things,
and I just don't care. Like again, just like with you,
it's like, Okay, you're gonna like Like she's mad that
I'm running the marathon, like she literally told.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Me this week.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
She goes, you don't have to do it, because I go,
I got to run twelve miles.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
She's like, oh, why just don't do it? Just I
was like, I'm doing it, Like I'm just going to
do it.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
But oh, when when she finally sees God, I it's
gonna be such I was thinking about it this week
actually when I was like leaving the nursing home. It's
gonna be such a weird feeling for me in my life. Think, Yeah,
it's going to be such like this crazy like a

(40:30):
bigger emptiness than I think I'm expecting.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's gonna be so weird.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Great, I can't I can't wait put a selfish, douche
fucking bag thing to say on my part. But boy,
I can't wait caravst on gold. I'm gonna have to
go find one. Yeah, just call better help don't Yeah,

(40:57):
I don't know. It's like so wild.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
It's like I just I was like really thinking about
when I was like leaving her this week. I was like,
oh my god, like I've like literally spent my entire
life with her in like such a positive but like
if you wouldfuse her as.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
An I'm not. I'm not gonna go down that road
because I never know who's let's say, so I just
leave it to it's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I mean if you know my nana, you know my nana.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
So it is what it is, like, I don't really care.
I like I just have like a really different relationship
with her.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
But again, I like literally like the way I am
with you, like I like shock her like.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
And it's okay, like she's gotta get over it. Not
saying that that's how I do things with you.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I'm I'll just put this out just getting our therapist ready.
You have a lot of fucked up relationships with like
other women.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Oh for sure, Like I I would think that like
I would probably like on paper of like daddy issues.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Which I think I I do. Oh but yeah, female.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Relationships, but that starts at home probably with like my
but you you are.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I used to think you might be like a bit
of a magnet for other people's bullshit and drama, but
I think you're not a magnet. A magnet can't help
with sticks out. Okay, so hold on, no, yeah, I'm
still talking.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
No I know, Okay, slow down, low down.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
But somebody, but you like search it out?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Okay, so like you're looking for it.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
No, So I okay, So I literally I heard this
on a podcast and then I saw this. I honestly
think it's like I show up for people the way
I think people are going to show up for me.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Now you actually show up for me, even though you're
saying right now that I don't show up for you,
but I think you know that I do show up
for you.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
But for most people, like I I put in so much,
like I give so much time to people because like
that's what I want, like that's what I.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Need, but no one ever like gives it back. So
it's like for all those people, it's like they just
take it.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah yeah, oh I'm aware.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
But like you, you do like show up for me.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
So it's not like right, so do I show up
for you?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
And I show up for you?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You take it no, right, Exephanie, Sometimes you don't listen.
You don't let me talk like you literally, like on
our podcast when I try to, like people that listen
on a regular will be like you'll get to a
point like, Okay, we're done talking about that. That's just
so aggressive, Ken, nobody. We'll go to like events and
you literally bit ken enough, like stop.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
You were talking about some sad things.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
It's just like making jokes like I'm just trying to
have fun, like I I should just be what if
we got uninvited? If like you keptpie if people you
know what, honey, honestly, if people did that specifically because.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Of me, would you have kept on going on and
on and on into a darker, deeper hole.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I'm not like retarded, like I I like making jokes.
I like making jokes. I don't I think sometimes they're dark.
I like the reaction I do. I'm admitting like I
like the realcle Oh my god, I can't believe you
said that. That's that's like, that's how it works.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
And maybe I have just like PTSD from like.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Other situations in my past that unfortunately, like people judged
me for yeah, and it was people.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
People aren't concerned about you at that moment, like I'm
just talking, I'm just having I'm having.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I know, but people still will like, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Get it, that's all. Like. So it's so even those
little like I know this like really dragon stuff out.
But even though those little moments, it's like it's.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Like you'll support, you'll support anybody.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Else in that place could literally come up and say
whatever they wanted to about me, and you would a heart.
Hold on, that's one hundred per one hundred.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
If I say anything, you're immediately.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Like okay, and you shouldn't like it's kind of legit.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
And you know what, I'll change you ways. I'll stop
doing I'm if you.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Change your ways. You want to talk about this stuff, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
That's right, I'll how about this. We'll do a social experiment.
I stop saying that, and we'll see what happens. Yeah, okay,
and maybe nothing will happen.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I don't think anything will happen. Stuff And there we go.
I don't think anything will happen. I just like I said,
I think your.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Last time I said nothing.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Like you'll have to. You'll have to accept at some
point that you have to.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Like you, when you're telling me things from other people,
you're always like, oh my god, this person like they
went through this, and this person went through that. This person,
oh my god, bah blah.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
You have to accept.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Obviously, I've been through stuff. I have things as a
as a person.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I'm very caught.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Like yeah, I'm very confident, like I can I take
care of myself, but I've been taking care of myself
since literally I don't know six, but I still need,
Like I feel like I do give you.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I guess I don't give you enough.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
No, I give you as much as I no, no, no.
When I get into this, just sometimes I just want
to feel. And I think a lot of people go
through this. We see other couples and we can see
that the like sometimes you just want to be supported
by your wife, and sometimes your wife will support everybody
else around them, but the husband's like treated like like whatever,

(47:12):
don't don't talk. I have my friends, I have my people,
I have all my social connections, and then it's like whatever,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Care what you mean any like, don't understand, like how
I V probably no.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I think I do. I do, and I always appreciate that.
I just think there's times that I could feel more supported,
how about that. Right, I'm sure there's times, like you said,
I'm there for you, and maybe there's times you.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Wish, Oh I wish he was a little more there
for me.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Right, Not going to roll out a list like you
like you did, But.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Come on, people right now, probably driving off the side
of the road just like, yeah, I can't.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
They're probably like, oh my god, I wonder if they're
going to get a word.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Oh my god, I ain't got the energy for that.
I'm not spending the cash.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Okay, let's get to listen. Let's see that's how you
do it. Kids. Also just an f y.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
I like we went through the issue, we moved on,
We actually talked about it, communicated, and then sometimes in
life you just have to deal with the communication and
then let's just go on.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Let's we don't need this to ruin our night. Okay.
So we talked about breaking.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Up on balance, right, Okay, I want to give a special,
a special review, a special anyone who still listen, anybody
that's still listen to this.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Piece, thank you, thank you for staying with us. We
need you in our lives.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I don't know if we do, but why.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
They're supporting us, that's the support we're not giving.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
You just yeah each other when the that I like,
it's still still on me.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Ken, I'm with the question. Fucking cut.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You said it, baby, I am adding a restaurant to
the list of places that we are no longer.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Going fucking Buffalo Wildwin, Suck my fucking dick, you fucking
piece of fucking trash in Manchester, fucking New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
You are all fucking rude.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
You're fucking like you make me feel like the lowest
fucking person for asking about a question about a goddamn
fucking chicken wing.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Suck a fucking dick and choke on it, you fucking.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Dumb baby, fucking chicken wing cut.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
She was fucking h She ruined.

Speaker 6 (49:53):
Our and then ugh and then the audacity to start
bitching about her fucking kids like we fucking cared and
those kids are probably looking for emancipatient fucking papers because bitch,
no one fucking cares.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Get the fuck out of my face. Get the fuck
out of my face, bitch, she was fuck it up.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
We're talking about Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, Yeah, that was a bad day. Yeah, it was rough.
It was and that and that's it was not a
an isolated incident.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You know, there's certain places where it's like I could.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Go on to the other episode.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
We've we've gone probably in the last year two years, No,
we've we've probably gone there, let's say four times in
the last year and a half.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Yeah, ah, not as many we take out in what yeah,
like but just physically gone like I know three times
we went they were like all just in this last time,
we literally walked in, walked into to like two empty
seats at the bar, which was like even more like

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it was not like a crazy thing. And you could
have thought that Ken literally whipped out his dick and
just pissed all over the fucking bar. You you would
have thought we shit in her mouth.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Asking a question about a sauce, right.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
She she was bitching that there wasn't enough business because
of how the weather's been, but then also was acting
like whatever business she had that day, she wanted nothing
to do with it, and like and she was just
bitching about her life or drive. But it was like
it wasn't her personal like her personal stuff that she
was talking about like sometimes because you're a bar person

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and we go to the bar, I accept that bartender
people are gonna you don't you don't know me?

Speaker 4 (51:57):
No, no, no, no, no no, I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
It to her like oh seven, the way you just
looked at me and said that, I was like, oh,
we always end up with the ball.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
That bitch does not know me. I have been a bartender.
I you do not.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Start talking up to a complete stranger. The fucking troubles
of your excuse me, the fact that you didn't even
fucking like truly welcome us here.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Why the fuck do you think I care that you.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Fucking hate driving on one on one bitch, don't fucking
work in Manchester, work on fucking Amherstry. Get the fuck
out of here, because you're fucking terrible, Like I'm sorry,
I'm in the game and you're fucking.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Terrible, Like you probably go home.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
With no money, not because people are cheap, because you
are so fucking miserable like you.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I still haven't ordered the extra shit I.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Wanted because she was done with us, because I asked
too many fucking questions, because I God forbid, said.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Like, but I can get four sauces no, you can't.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Okay, yeah, ok no, I can. You know when you're like, oh,
is it us? It's not not in that because we
go to we go to plenty of places, probably more
than we should, but we go to plenty of places. Yeah,
we don't have the issues at places, but this Buffalo
Wild Wings. Every every visit, it's almost like there's like
a lack of like leadership or management or or something

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in the place. Yeah, because everybody feels a little too
comfortable providing shitty service. And I don't know if it's
because it's at the mall. I don't know what it's
deal is, but it's like, you know, having wings. They
do make decent wings, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
They do, and they were actually overdone.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Oh well now yeah I don't know about that. But
everything okay over there?

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, okay, just someone's on the right home.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Oh there you go. So anyway, Buffalo Wild Wings fucking
like Stephanie said, showing off on her thing, really not
too much else. We talked before you you with your marathon.
You did your twelve miles on the treadmill yesterday, six

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miles today, So as a former runner, I know what
that's like. That's no fun. No, it's no fun.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
It it was. It was a solid it was yeah,
it was a solid twelve miles.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah it was. That's two hours of you know, it's
two hours of running.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I fucking wish.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Wow it was two hours, bro, Like, I fucking wish.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
It was only two hours. It was.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Sorry that I was gonna be able to like maybe
to ten.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Pull it up on the wrong app. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
I should have done it happened bedtiming two hours.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
And thirty nine minutes.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Wait what two hours and thirty nine minutes for the
twelve miles. Well again, you're on the treadmill.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
I'm not trying.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
People are gonna be like, no, I.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Did for a long time. They wanted me to do
it in two hours and twelve minutes.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Okay, which if.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
I did it in two hours and twelve minutes, that
would have still been slower than my like completed a
half marathon.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Times, but not by too much. So that's like where
I'm at.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
It's just I just December destroyed me and and I
just went through jang or I just like doing the
best I could, like when I started, because I did
miss sometime, but it was.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Like I'm getting through it.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
So but again I am on the treadmill, so it
is like a little bit slower.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
But yeah, I did it. Though I was surprised with myself.
But and today today.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I shouldn't be the word.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
You should just be proud of like yourself.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah today, the only thing that stinks is that I
wasn't supposed to do it back to back.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
But the day I was supposed to run, I really
slept like crap, And like I've said it like the
entire time, like I'm glad that I just took the
day like I had the opportunity to take the day
off and not like push myself because I didn't want
to split up my long run.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Because for me, I personally.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Felt that like my body needed to feel. I needed
to feel running for two and a half hours as
much as like it sucks, my body's going to be
running for at least at least four hours, so it
needs to feel.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah, you got to get those miles on your on
your like.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yo, what it's what it's like to be out there?
And it's like again like I've like I've said the past,
and like I think yesterday kind of proved it.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Like once once I ran half marathon, like I know
physically I can do it.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
So it's like I knew I would get to the
twelve miles. It's just if it's slow, it's slow.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah. When I was thinking back to when I ran
the Ultra, the longest I did on training, I did
two back to back halfs. Yeah, thirteen miles one day,
thirteen miles the next day. Yeah, and that was that
was a lot. And it's like I think I've probably
said it on here before, but like when I was
running the mileage I was doing in the time, it

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didn't impress me at all, Like I was just like whatever.
And now that I haven't ran in almost three years,
I look back and it's like, holy shit. Like I
attempted that Ultra. You know that was gonna be like
thirty someone miles. I did not finish. I didn't finish
like I fell apart, like it just I broke down.

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But I still got in like twenty six miles in
the mountains. Yeah, you did, like crazy crazy mountains and
elevation and all that. The thought of me doing that,
I have no desire, Yeah, zero desires.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
This will be like this will be like I'm still
not even like it's so but like it it'll be
good to do. But like I I wouldn't want to
do an ultra like not even saying.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Like oh you didn't want to do a ma that's
like so much more like this is already going to
be like a lot to a point, Like I mean,
I just ran twelve miles yesterday, so it's.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Not in the same I know.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
It's like and I'm only saying this just like really
for content, but also for I guess for you, Like everybody,
everybody can kind of go through that mindset where like
I've done the stupid things where I'm like, oh five
k well it's only like I only have to do
like eight five k's and that's yeah, that's always Oh

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I felt great at thirteen miles, why would another thirteen miles?

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Like Iran mile seventeen.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
I ran the twelve yesterday and I, like I said you,
I probably could have done.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
One, maybe two more miles today.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
I did six. I could have I could have pushed
it to ten. It would have been really slow. It
would have been a really really slow ten miles, but
I could have I could have done it. Yeah, but
it will be it'll be interesting to see by like

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I did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I did set up with my massage therapist.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Well there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Okay, I work with her. So it's like I gotta
do trades and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
But I I am going to like actually set up
a like at her helping me with my legs because
I'm a terrible stretcher. I know it's not going to
change like it is what it is, Like I have
to I have to put so many miles on my
legs in such a short time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So I would say just strengthening your legs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I know I'm going to have to us.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
A lot of stretching and massage. I think by building
the muscle, you're going to do more for yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Well, I think she's gonna be able to help like
in like in some of these areas where it's like
everything's just like so tight and just kind of moving things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
But like as she's moving things around, yeah, I am
going to have to like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Jump in like some of these like runs that I
have where it's like it's a lot of little runs
like where you said like you should skip them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I probably shouldn't skip.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Oh I'm not saying to skip them like as advice.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I'm just saying if you had to skip anything within
your plan, like your schedule gets fucked, you got work,
you get all these crazy things. If something has to
be skipped, you're better off not doing the little three
mile runs, but always making sure you're keeping up with
your long run.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Oh yeah, you can't skip them. Like that was like
the whole point of like why I didn't want to
like split.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Up my my long run too, because no, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
To you, I was a little I was getting a
little nervous because you were literally like like kind of
like hating on the whole experience, so to speak, which
I don't. I don't blame you because you weren't feeling
great and everything else the wintertime, like I'm exhausted with
no sun.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Yeah we have, we've definitely me and my friends that
are running it. Or she had said, like, oh, we
should have picked a June one, but like we still
would have been well then it's hot, Well yeah, and
we still would.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Have had to have been training inside. So it's just
we should have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Picked like a fall one and started training in like
March or April.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
But I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
This is like, but this is like probably like why
people who run marit like people were on fucking marathons
like stupid, Like you're.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Putting no, no, no, no, like not in like a bad way,
like in.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
That way of like you're physically putting yourself in this
situation where it's like you have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
To Actually you're not wrong, it is stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
I'm choosing to like do this race in May because
I know on race day, whether it rains or it's
sunny or whatever, it's going to be like a comfortable environment.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I go too early, it could be fucking freezing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
I go just a few weeks later, it could be
so oppressive, and it's like, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Have to where I live.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Like New England marathon runners who like run in these
early times, they're crazy, Like I mean like again, we
choose to run and like like the other day, I
was like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Oh, it's gonna be warm today.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
It was like thirty and it like just hadn't snowed
for a couple of days, so I was like, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Just wear a hat. This like it's so growl, like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Making sure I don't slip on the ice as I
like run through to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Get to the next street.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
It's like, oh my god, like we're psychotic. But I
mean again, I physically, I think, like to feel the pain,
to like see me get to like the next step.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
So everyone's guess.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Threw everybody's got something, you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Know, and listen, I'm definitely not running any ultra. It's like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
This is also said years and now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
I'm not saying you will, but I'm just saying years
ago you used to say I would. I'd never run
a full marathon. That's dumb. I have no I'm not
gonna do that, And here you are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I wish I didn't pay for it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Do you think you would not do it if you
didn't pay, Like if you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
If I hadn't paid for it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
That's what they say to pay for it because.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
They still.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Wasn't like getting to the training because like if I
let this cold, like truly like yeah, take me, then
I'd find easier reasons to be like I didn't even
I didn't even sign up yet whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
But like I resigned up like it is what it is,
Like I already.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Got the day off from work, I have like the
last race, Like I already have that weekend off to
like train for like my big twenty miles.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
So I think, like in the universe, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
This marathon is like actually set up perfectly for me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Like I think if you're training for a mayor marathon
and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Like super duper easy, then I mean like you gave
yourself like a really easy, I don't want to say,
a really easy challenge. Like if you gave yourself like
a really like good length of time, it's like, yeah,
like you're super prepared for it like that, Like when
I did like my half marathon, I gave myself a

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lot of time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I was super prepared. I'm like stupid about this and
giving myself like a short wait, like I'm giving myself.
I gave myself under.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
One hundred days right to run to run a marathon
because I want to do it before forty.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
So I mean, like this is just like a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
But I mean I think like marathons are hard, so
it's like you should feel like a little.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Bit of and you haven't even hit like what It's
like I was saying, Week six looked stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
It's like seventeen on your body.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
It's a whole different world. It's a whole different world.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting. I'm just hoping that, like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
I don't know, I'm just hoping all these fucking storms
in fucking New England just stop. I would just love
for like global warming to pop up like any time
now so Stephie can run on the rail trip. Yeah,
I'm getting so sick of the tremill.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
I fucking hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Fucking Well, then, like you said, Joe, just appreciate you
disappreciate being outside even Yeah, I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Probably just appreciate like also feeling like how I'll feel,
because I mean, the only thing that's like really good
for me is that I know that I do run
a bit slower on the tremill, so I hope it
just transpires onto the road and then that way, like
the twelve miles that I ran yesterday will feel like

(01:06:58):
the seventeen miles.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Run after run.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Oh that's excuse me, the fifteen miles that was like aggressive.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I don't think I could run seventeen miles and a
half hours in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
I mean I ran, I ran thirty miles in like two.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Just said it took you two and a half hour.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
I'm saying, like the like half marathon for all the
times that was timed, it was definitely under two fifteen
for all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
You know, But then if you think about it generally,
even if you're at a ten minute mile at that point,
that's another forty minutes of running, you know, that's that's
almost three hours.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Like right now, twelve and thirteen minute miles on the journal.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
And listen. I want to put out for people. I
kind of put out a TikTok video about this. You
I've been putting out videos. Are a follower, but you
get a lot of fun novel.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I don't think they follows.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
It's pathetic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Can you tell me?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Yeah, you can see how many How do you think?
How but do you think I've got? Because like knowing that,
I'm like not on socials like ever four hundred? Oh
that's that would be nice. It's like it's like three fifteen, okay,
but how.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Many views do you get? You have more views and followers?

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've won.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Do you follow a lot of people that you view?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
No, it's like one one has like almost twenty nine
hundred views.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Now many people don't follow, No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Think like maybe twenty I don't know. I don't follow
that many people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Girls with big movies.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Probably No, I don't know. I literally don't know you just.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Girls with small movies.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Oh no, you must be Oh god, you have what
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
There's a lot of French schie owners. Honestly, females are
I don't know, we're not getting to this conversation. They listen,
they don't they don't interrupt, so it feels nice. I
just have live chats with the French cheese. But I
don't even know who I was saying that, because you Yeah,

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my girlfriend's on tiktoking.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
A video out on TikTok about.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Just about like fitness stuff and what.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Yeah, and I just it's like I've had such and
people will probably get sick of hearing it because you're
not going to want to listen. But I've had such
a positive experience with going the other route. And my
thing today, yeah, my thing today was literally like sometimes,
you know, the focus forever can be fitness is being skinny.

(01:09:40):
And I'm speaking mostly really to guys, but women should
you know, listen a little bit too. It's like you're
fighting against your your body all the time when you're
constantly focused on losing weight, losing weight, reducing weight, shrink, reduce,
cut to all these different things and you're just fighting

(01:10:01):
against you know. It's like I've been at a certain
weight in high school and then I lost a ton
of weight, and then I get back to that weight again,
and then lost a bunch of weight, and then I
got back to that weight. It's like, my body wants
to be in the two hundreds.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
It wants to be. I don't know, it's just genetic.
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
That's what it wants to sit there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
It wants to be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
So guess what. Here's my advice to people. You've probably
spent almost your entire adult life dieting and trying to
like shrink yourself. Why not just accept the weight that
your body is or wants to be and shape it
by lifting. I got super skinny, and ninety nine percent

(01:10:44):
of the time when I was super skinny, I looked like, shit,
you think you look good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
But you look good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
You think I look good? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
And the pictures I'm looking at behind them like when
you're yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
But I used to take pride in the fact that,
like I could wear the same shirt as my son
in high school.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
That sounds cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
And I know for a lot of people that if
you're carrying extra weight. You think, oh, man, if I
could just get skinny, I would feel so much better.
If I can just lose all this weight, I'm gonna
look and feel.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Sometimes you just end up looking like a smaller version
of what you look like now, just skinnier, skinny, fat,
you know what I mean. So I'm encouraging people that
have had all that because usually by now, if people
have quit the gym their New Year's resolutions, they're like, ah, fuck,
that that was too hard, because they go through the
same thing. I'm gonna cut out what I was eating.
I'm gonna reduce what I was eating. I'm gonna go

(01:11:36):
to the gym. I'm gonna do cardio, which most people
hate fucking doing and dread doing at the gym all
the time. Yes, so change it up, go to the gym,
start lifting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I gotta do my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Well, you're in a different spot you signed up for
a marathon, Stephanie. But for other people, all I'm saying
is there is another side to the gym, and you
can do. You can do things for yourself that you
you will actually feel confident and strong when you're done.
As you're you're gonna really like improve your body, how
it looks, how you feel. You know, I hear these

(01:12:11):
fucking ads for these testosterone boosters, like, oh, I don't
feel like I used to, Bob, I'm not getting gains
in the gyp, probably because you're trying to fucking intermittent
fast and you don't eat any food.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
I've been through it. I've been down that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
For certain people.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
But I mean, like maybe that's like that's like your saying,
like your body type, your body weight, Like maybe for
certain people if it does that interesting people go through the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Cycle, and I've done it. That's why I can talk
about it. You get the your weigh a certain amount,
you lose a bunch of weight through what do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
You restrict your.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Calories, which is fine to a point. You do some cardio,
you do a bunch of stuff, and you know what
you're doing. You're burning off a lot of your muscle
on your body and everything else. And then guess what
put the weight back on. But that weight that goes
back on is not anymore so now you now you
weigh what you did in the beginning, but now it's

(01:13:04):
more fat than muscle. And then you're like, oh my god,
I gotta lose all this weight, so you lose a
bunch more weight and guess what you've lost again, a
lot of muscle, you know. So just stop the weight
loss cycle. That's what I'm telling people. Stop the weight
loss cycle. I don't care what size you are. I
don't care what weight you are. Get in. Do some
resistance training, do it with some purpose, eat food like

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eat good foods. It doesn't matter. You could. It's amazing
what arnold They always feel good? There you got. That's
not how it's fully done. But Sephanie, the way she's
doing it, it's like she's doing a snow angel. She's
lifting no weights and just moving her arms. She's breathing
like she's lifting. So but that's that's my advice to people,

(01:13:50):
you know, because, like I said, I've been through it,
and so many guys like I think about it. It's like,
holy shit, you're two hundred and twenty five pounds. You
start going in and lifting with a purpose. Even if
you didn't worry about like bodybuilding per se, you might
just go in and fucking make yourself strong with like
doing some some powerlifting kind of stuff. I've never done

(01:14:13):
that kind of stuff, but for some young people. You
could be fucking strong. You could feel like you know
what I mean, if you feel strong, if you look strong,
you feel strong like it fucking it does something for
your head versus just like, oh, I'm not eating anymore today,
I have to stop at five and then I know

(01:14:33):
it's a little chili, right, and then and then you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Just feel weak.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
I feel like a bitch. So but anyway it is.
I don't know why it's getting chilly, and I have
to I have to pee anyway, So I guess I'm
not the only one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Was there anything else on the list, though, No, we're
gonna watch Jimmy Vallen tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Oh yeah, that's a whole different ball whack. We're so old.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
We're excited to see if there's gonna be something silly
old because it's fellow type.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Jephanie's very edited about watching Jimmy fallon.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
We've been recording.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
It, yeah, because we can't stay up later on. Yeah,
so all right, listen, let's I'm gonna I'm gonna literally
piss my pants.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Can you tell everyone that you love me very much?

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I do love you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Oh there you go, that happy Valentine's Day. Don't don't
break up with me on Valentine's Day. We'll put it
out on we'll put it out on the socials if
she does.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Ew, I'm not going to bring up with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Okay, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
I feel like I'm yeah, I feel like we're like
so past, like breaking up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Yeah, we got we I don't have the energy, so
all right, So anyway for all of us, at here
we go again. I'm Ken Happy Valentine's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Val.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
We will see you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
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