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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on this week's episode of Hip Hop Now podcast,
nas in DJ Premier give a date to their upcoming
highly anticipated album. I review Daylight Soul's brand new album
Cabin in the Sky and Stove God Cooks has a
release date for his new album, but it's not until
(00:23):
next year.
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We're waiting again. Let's do it. Welcome to jipp Hop Now,
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into the business. NAS and DJ Premire have finally have
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finally mostly this is coming from Premiere as of this recording,
have finally put a date on their long awaited, anticipated
and all mabated maybe who knows album is dropping December twelfth.
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It is the last album in the mass appeal seven Icons,
seven Legends, or maybe it's the other way around. Whatever
rollout of music that has for the most part been good.
So NAS in Premiere on December twelfth is when we'll
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get the final album. And you know, I'll have a
special episode coming up once this album dropped too, obviously
review it, but also to review the whole rollout. You know,
what were some of our favorite albums? You know, what
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did we think about the overall rollout? What would we
like to see in another rollout?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Is it another seven? You know who would that be?
So stay tuned for that that'll be coming in December.
Big review of the album and the rollout I mean,
I mean the NAS and Premier album in the rollout.
But he's my quick thoughts as far as as far
as like how things are feeling as we head into
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that album. Hold on, let me let me tweak, Let
me tweak the look real quick, y'all. Boom lighting, Let
there be light for our video, for our video watchers.
How I feel headed into a December twelfth release of
a non the Premier album.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Let's just go back just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I was never a hip hop fan who like craved
a Nasen Premier album.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Now I know when you look.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
At if you fast forward back, Nasen Premier couldn't miss
right when you think about what Premier produced on Illmatic
right represent New York state of Mind. New York State
of Mind probably my favorite record on Illmatic right. Then
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over the years, the songs that Premier has produced with
Nas like Nas is like you know what I'm saying.
Even New York State of Mind Part two was kind
of crazy, and I think Premier did that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So they they have a history. You can name a
number of songs they've.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Done, you know, in the nineties for the most part
that were crazy, that had people craving an album that's
all Nas and Premiere. How could that be whack? But
it never happened and literally decades past decades and now
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that we have it announced and it's happening. I'm a
little skeptical. I'm not gonna lie, and I'm gonna tell
you why. It's a couple of variables.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
One, that's probably a little bit of pressure, and I'm
not talking about anybody who are haters.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's probably a little bit of pressure to.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
At least match the level that Nas and hip Boy collaborated, right,
regardless of what you may feel. When I heard the
beat to Speechless, I was like, my God, And that
ain't the only beat that's tough that hip Boy produced.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
For Nas during that run.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But when I heard that alone, I was like, Yo,
hip Boy got a bag, so it would be only right.
Nas in Premier, are you're crazy? Of course that's going
to be crazy. And then they put out a song
to announce it, and the song was cool.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It was cool.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It felt like it could be something. But all my
doubt doesn't come from everything I just said. For the
most part, most of it comes from the fact that
DJ Premier is he's kind of like stuck in a
lane right now. I'm not saying he's stuck in the nineties,
of course not. And for his track record, so what right,
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But there was a time where DJ Premier. You couldn't
predict his beats at all. You didn't know what you
were going to get. And most of the time, if
not one hundred percent of the time, it was crazy.
But in recent years, except for maybe Prime, and that
was because he was sort of being challenged, he has
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a very predictable style nowadays. And I'm not gonna lie.
The minute I hear it, I'm almost like defeated. And
this is a crazy sample, but it's it's always put
together in a very similar way.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And that was never Premier.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So anybody who will say, yo, this is what Premier do,
No no, go back and listen to Gangstar. You can
listen to one album. Premier could do the majority of the
majority of the beats on any album you pick, except
for that first one, mister Knight's got no No, don't
pick that one. Okay, Premier will tell you don't pick
that one, but you didn't. You couldn't predict them beats.
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They all sound different, and Premier was on the boards.
Guru did some stuff too, but as far as what
Premier did, it was not predictable at all. You can
even look at, okay, what he did for Nas in
his heyday, none of those beats sound the same. Represent
don't sound like New York state of Mind. New York
state of Mind, don't sound like NAS is like right,
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but now every time it doesn't matter what artist he's with,
typically including that announcement song. With NAS, there's a certain
included in this day album. There's a certain style that
he's comfortable with. So when he makes beats, they they're predictable.
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The rhythm of it is predictable. It could be a
new sample, it could it could be a number of
things that are different from that beat versus this beat,
but the rhythm is always going to be in a
specific pocket. And I know there's some people you're not
really music fans like that, so you don't hear it.
You're not really uh that deep with hip hop, And
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that's cool also, right, Like maybe just want something dope.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I think that's the least he can do, is just
give you something dope. But this is nas in Premire,
long awaited album, awaited since the nineties, making Magic together
as a duo for decades.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Granted I say decades, but Nasa ain't really use Premier
in decades really, to be honest, go back and listen
to the last. However, many albums Premire don't have a
track on them. Okay, So it's one of those things
where I know what to expect from Premier production wise,
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but I kind of don't because there has to be
something in Premier that says, Okay, I did this album
with worse to five nine two albums called Prime well received.
My production wasn't typical of what I typically do nowadays
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when I make a beat, and people were receptive to that.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I've had beats here and there that are kind.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Of my formula, and a few here and there that
kind of stood out because they were actually different. And
NAS and hit Boy just put out six projects in
what two and a half years or something like that,
and they generally they're all well accepted generally speaking. I'm
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DJ Premier, this is NAS. We did this big role
out with all these MC's. Most of it was flames.
Damn there, ninety nine point nine percent of it was flames. Okay,
we are the finale. I can't give him just the
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boom boom bit record with a different baseline sample and
the scratch of whatever what the name of the song is.
I can't do that on every record. I have to
have people lean into the speaker and say, permitted did this.
He's still in his bag.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It has to happen.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Look what Havoc did, Look what Pete did on this
New day line. There's been there's been some phenomenal Look
what Pharrell did with the clips. It's time for Primo
to be like, there's a reason why I'm known as
the guy over here. I am the doctor Dre of
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the East Coast. So it's time to show up. But
I'm optimistic, so we'll see. So again, Are you excited
for nas in premiere? Leave your comments in a comments
section below. Do you agree about Primo's more recent beats.
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Do you feel like there's a formula? Are you fine
with having an album full of beats that follow that formula?
Leave your comments in a comments section below. Next, we're
just talking about albums today, y'all. So Stove God Cooks
has a new album coming out, and if you've been
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watching my show, you know that already because I talked
about it not too long ago. But now we have
some concrete information regarding his follow up to his classic
album Reasonable Drought. If you don't know who Stove God is,
or you just heard them on the Clips and you
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said reasonable drought and you hear me calling it a classic.
Go plus Go, Go Plus Go press play slipping today,
you know what I'm saying, Bars not slipping, Okay, but
I'm just saying. I'm just saying, once you press play,
you know what I mean. But what's what's been weird
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for most fans of that album in particular, which I
believe dropped in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one one
or the other is there was never a follow up,
and that was because there was a dispute with the
label and he wound up signing to Griselda, but he
couldn't release an album.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
He couldn't release his own music.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So that's why for the last couple of years, including
the Clips album, you've heard Stove God do hooks, and
sometimes the hooks are long, like a verse, right, so
it's almost like he has a verse, but it's the hook.
But we want the album now. There was an EP
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that he released but it was quickly shut down called
stop Calling Me I'm Cooking, and a song with a
Marvin Gaye sap I believe it's called Marvin.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Like was released or leaked or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
From that project not that long agough and you know
everybody loved it. But when I tell you, because I
had that project, I was able to get it before
it was pulled. It was crazy, right, it was. It
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I don't know if some of those songs will be
on this album. I mean, considering when he dropped that EP,
it was gone in like a week or so where
he couldn't sell it anymore. I would like to think
that some of those songs will find their way onto
his new album, which is scheduled to be released in
(15:40):
February of twenty twenty six. I think February twenty seventh
or something like that, and it's called Goat Stamp. Now,
I know there's a single release in this month and
probably has released by the time I'm recording this episode.
And I'll just say this, I feel like Stove God
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has momentum that may or may not be hard to recapture.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
In the next year, let alone in February.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Now, I know this is a contractual obligation. This is
his last album on Baby Graham, which I assume was
the label he had to dispute with, which also makes
me a little scared because don't give them the dud
because I like the fact that this dude's momentum off
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that clips feature had people who didn't even know who
he was anticipating him, and it made me feel like
it's going to happen now. It's very clear, like I
said in my previous episode, that jay Z is the
guy who gets you off your deals, because it felt
like Stove God was never getting out this deal.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And why do I say that?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Once I see you in rock Nation and all of
a sudden, now you got an album dropping. Hove did okay,
he did something, Hoe did something okay. Like he did
it for the Clips, he's doing it for Stove God.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So I am.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Hopeful he's had a lot of time to build music.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I hope they select some of his finest work.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I hope he has so much dope music that even
this album with Baby Grand is enough to make keep
the hype going. Basically, and again, I know a singles
getting ready to drop, but like in the last segment,
so is nas in premiere and whoever else may drop
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in between the time of Stove God finally releasing his
second album, official album in February. So I'm definitely hopeful
I'll keep listening to the music I have anticipating a
new single. I wish it was still coming out in November,
but whatever, we can wait.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know, there'll be like.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
A whole holiday, you know, best of the year, like
once we hit January, things that feel like it's dried
up when it comes to hip hop, and you may
get a notable release or two in January, but that's
just you know, maybe that's what will make it dope.
That Stove God is dropping by the end of February,
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and you know we'll see. So are you a Stove
God Cooks fan? Are you finally as happy as I
am that he has an official album dropping? It's February
too far for you, I don't know. Leave the comments
in the comments section below, And last listen, man, you
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saw the title that episode. I am not one of
those old heads that only gets excited for old rappers
or old well let me not say that. Let me
stop saying old, but no, this is how people would
look at it. Old rappers, albums by old rappers, new
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albums by old rappers, Like I'm not one of those
guys who thinks the music's good just because of what
they've done in the past. You are being judged by
what you release today because you're still active.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I don't think any MC.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I hope not feels like you should like their
music because of they what you've liked in the past.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's just not how it works. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You don't have to be disrespectful to the legends, but
they should be critiqued fairly. And that's what I'm here
to do. So you know what I do when it
comes to reviewing albums. I give them three listens. The
first it's just to get my impressions. The second listen,
now I'm listening a little deeply to what's being presented, lyrics, beats, skits,
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how everything works together, concept, theme, whatever. And then my
last listen is just to confirm my thoughts. And Dayla
Soul's brand new album Cabin in the Sky, just for
those who need a quick review. His flames fire hot
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almost unexpected but also expected.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I say that because when Daylat Soul and first of
all recipes todave True Goyd to Dove, but when day Soul,
you know it's having like the Tommy Boy dispute with
streaming and remember when they had I think it was
a kickstarter for their next album that wound up being
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nominated for a Grammy, But to most Daylight fans, it
was whack, including me. And what was whack about it?
It was two different from what we were accustomed to.
And not to say that rappers who've been rapping for
as long as they have and releasing albums through decades
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and generations, that they have to stick to a formula.
But there was something unique about Daylight Soul's choice and
beats choice in subject matter, bars, guest appearances that we
were just accustomed to. And you don't need to roll
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out the red carpet for all the people you used
to rock with and keep making songs with them until
the end of eternity. You can bring new people on
your project. Like with that album, they had two Chains
on it, but two Chains had the best verse, and
that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Two change. When he in the hip hop element, he
get busy. He just does.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
He just happens to do traps sometimes. But when he
in the hip hop element, he show up. And that
was telling, like, Yo, this day La Soul album isn't
what I thought it would be. And damn two Chains
got busy, Like I'm a little disappointed, and we know
they got a Grammy nom but they could have got
that for a number of albums in a catalog that
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was just as good, I mean, well not just as good.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Better.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So now we bring you to Cabin in the Sky
and we know that Dave, you know, one of the trio,
passed away not too long ago. Everybody wondered what this
album would sound like, would Dave be featured, And this album,
Cabin in the Sky is basically dedicated to Dave in
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a lot of ways. Who does obviously appear on this
album rapping. He's the first rapping verse you hear on
this album. But it's done in such a classy way
it didn't make It's similar to the Mob Deep situation.
The Mob Deep album didn't necessarily make me sad that
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Prodigy wasn't here. It made me proud to be a
Mob Deep fan because it was like, even with our
brothers still, you know, even with our brother not here,
we can still give you one last good Mob Deep
album and meaningful and it doesn't sound like, you know,
a memorial service situation.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That's how I feel like with Dave.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's just done in a way where you know, the
obvious but Daylight Soul came to get busy. So the
album has twenty tracks, some of which are skits.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Some skits are tacked.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
On the end of songs or in the beginning, twenty
songs were in ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Now hold up, don't get up. I'm just like you.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Sometimes when I hear that, I'm like, Yo, twenty an
hour and ten, I don't know if I have that time.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I made time. And when I tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's worth it, it's worth to listen some of the
guest appearances as you some of what you know Yummy Bingham,
y'all know her right from so much More like I
love that record. She's featured on Here a lot, Killer
mic is here, Q Tip is on this album. Now
is as you know, Black Thought comments Slick Rick blau
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Star studied Affair. What I like about this album, just
to kind of round things out, is Daylight Soul is
kind of known for skits. They kind of burst the
eror of having a lot of skits on your album
back in the day. And I'm not the biggest fan
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of skits today as long as put it this way,
I'm not the biggest fan if the skits are like
meaningless to what's happening right, similar to ray kuon skits
right on his new album The Emperor's New Clothes. Except
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for maybe one skit, those others could have gone they're meaningless,
like they just don't match the opening skit.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Perfect, but the others was like.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You didn't really necessarily need these, Whereas on Supreme Clientele Too,
I felt like a lot of those skits fit the
tone of the album, and the same thing goes for
this with day La Soul. You start out with an intro. Wait,
who's on the intro? Because I don't want to you know,
we have a tendency to say the characters the actor played.
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But let's say the actor's name, Gianna Carlo Esposito. Okay,
you know him from Breaking.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Bad School Days. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
The Mandalorian, you know, who is as a teacher in
a class taking attendance, and he's checking attendance and everybody
who he's whose names he's calling answers right, Nas, Pete, Rock,
DJ Premier nots right, Q tip everybody, and then he
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ends with you know, is PA's here?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And Pod says what he says, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Like he ends with day La Soul, but he really
ends with Dave, is Dave here, and he says his
name a couple of times, and then the next song
hits and it's Dave rapping.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I thought that was really dope.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And I also like, you know, just to skip to
the end how they ended by thanking Dave. But it's
the teacher thanking him, and so it's a nice way
to say. You know, you were saying, Dave, he's not here.
We know that, right, we know he passed away, he's
not here, but at the end the teacher thanking him
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and saying thank you, Dave says he was present. And
if you listening to the whole album, the Present, especially
a certain couple of songs where they, you know, the
members of the Day I Soul speak directly to Dave,
that's what they kind of say. He's with us. We
rather have him here with us, but he's with us,
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he's guiding us, he's keeping us, he's keeping us warm.
So to hear that at the end, after hearing you know,
the teacher called for Dave and to begining several times,
just to have at the end to say he's present,
I just thought that was a nice touch. That was
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just dope, right. But all in all, album wise, most
of the beats just hit. I mean when I say most,
I mean damn.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
They're all.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Variety, boom back soul like it just hits. There were
times where I got a little scared, I ain't gonna
front where I heard, you know, old soul samples, you know,
not hip hopped up. You know, they weren't chopped up
for hip hop. They were primarily those samples where I
was like, yeah, I don't want to dance, you know,
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I like the original record, but it's kind of throwing
me off.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But then I realized they're not long. In some ways.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
They're used as interludes or innstitials for those who know,
to kind of get you or segues right to kind
of get you from one rhythm one thought from a
song to another, right, but still meaningful, but where it's placed.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And I thought that was a nice touch.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So, you know, obviously, listening multiple times, it didn't bother me.
It was just initially I'm like, it's just going to
be the record and everything goes downhill from there.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And that wasn't the case now for those who are
keeping score.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
When you think about the Pete Rock production versus the
DJ Premier production. It's not a contest. For one, I
mean that in two ways, double Ontandre. It's not a
contest to pick these two legends together. But also it's
not a contest. It's Pete Rock. Pete Rock's production as
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you saw with the song would or the album the
Auditorium Volume one would common. It's not predictable. It's just
not You have to hear him talking or hear somebody say.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Pete Rock, where we at? But blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Whatever, and then we know, oh, pe Rock did to
be unless we go look. But if you just going
off of listening, I could spot the Premier beats. Like
I said earlier, I could spot them Clare's Day once.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
They hit and they weren't that bad to me.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
They just was like, oh, this is cool Premire, this
is what Premiere does. But when I first heard what's
the joint the package, I'm going to say pause for
the kids in the room. When I first heard that,
it made me smile. It felt good, Like the first
time I heard Award Tour. I was like, damn, Trip
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is back and Daylight and Dave is on the hook.
This feels good. Check the rhym used to feel good
when I heard that come on, like just good, like
like how people be like yo, you know hip hop
soul Like nah, there's some people who really make hip
hop so that give you the same feeling when you
hear it, and the package sound like that. So again,
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and this album is one of the best of the year,
and with my Best of the Year episode coming up,
I have a lot of work. There are a lot
of albums that are worthy of being in my top
five or even just being mentioned as best of the year.
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But in the last let's say, three or four months,
I've had to move things out because something better was
made available. So have you heard Dayla Soul's brand new album,
Cabin in the Sky. Leave your review down in the
(31:41):
comments section below. I love to know what other hip
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Speaker 2 (32:14):
Y'all. I'm not a critic, I'm a fan case