May 16, 2025 • 34 mins
On this week's episode, Joey Bada$$ is back to taking shots at his ops while baiting Kendrick. Styles P. states the big difference between him and Jim Jones. Vegas reviews Snoop Dogg's latest album, "Is It a Crime." Let's talk about it!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up. On this week's episode of Hip Hop Now podcast,
Joey Badass sends shots at Ray Vaughn and Daylight while
baiting Kendrick Styles. P states the difference between him and
Jim Jones lyrically, and my thoughts on a new album
(00:23):
from Snoop entitled is It a Crime? It's not a crime,
but it's still kind of fat. We'll talk about it.
Welcome to Jim Pop Now fat. If you from the future,
you know what you do? Show as ou sont disrespect
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so Big Sean Joey Badass and adds so put together
a freestyle video. I forget the name my bad I
(04:18):
forget the name of the people who do it, but
it's like a three sixty video. You know they're Ramen.
They've got a couple of dope videos out but they're
ramen and the cameras like going around in the circle.
You know, it's it's pretty dope visually. And this freestyle
was interesting because we know what Joey Badass did at
(04:39):
the beginning of the year calling out West Coast really,
you know, because it was very vague about it. He
tried to explain himself in this one, but I don't really
buy it. Call it buddy kind of does. We'll get
to Joey, but he kind of, he doesn't. He doesn't
(05:00):
touch on he addresses that freestyle and the people who
responded to him back then, most notably Ray Vaughon out
of TDE and also Daylight. You know what I'm saying,
legendary battle rapper. If you don't know to say who's Daylight?
Who is that? Trust me, I'm afraid to hear his
(05:22):
rebuttal to this. But those two in particular, while also
kind of still talking about Kendrick and something that came
a little bit later. But what was interesting that you
would think is, oh, Absol's right there, that's that's Kendrick's homie.
It's West Coast all day. And I think they did
(05:44):
a really dope routine where when it was Absol's turn
to go. He turned to Joey and he was spitting
to him, but it was like a back and forth,
like I know, but like I loved it because it
was like, this is what it's about, right, It ain't
about no beef. So Rayvon chilled with the physical threats.
(06:06):
He can rap, don't get it wrong, he can rap.
But what they displayed Big Sean as and especially Absol
and Joey Badass being in this together right sorry, Big
Sean is happening again. It's like the control verse, which
they kind of touch on. But I think it was
(06:27):
still dope because it showed some solidarity in hip hop
that y'o, we could be competitive, you know what I'm saying.
So I think it was dope in that manner. Might
have been crazy if it was Daylight Rayvaon and Joey
Badass that did it, that might have been crazy, but
Joey would have got jumped. So right off the heels
(06:50):
of that, Rayvon is like, here's a new is a
dis record called whole Error with the video here you go,
And I like he's pretty dope. I think his first
response when he was rhyming over the hard part six
not that Drake Trash, the one on gn X, I
(07:12):
thought that was fire. This one was like, Okay, this
is kind of a warm up kind of thing, But
I don't think he should have came with a warm
up when your originally was so dope. But nevertheless, Ravon
still had bars. Not too long after that, Joey drops
a joint call I think the Finals and he goes
(07:32):
directly at Rayvon and he breaks him down to the
organic compound, like he breaks him down right, And I
just felt like joe that was the freestyle siteher thing,
and that was the best to me, that Joey sound
lyrically out of all these back and forth stating back
(07:54):
to the beginning of the year, that was the best
because he was like laser focused on Rayvon. The thing
is is where Rayvaughn, a lot of people don't know him,
and they don't really know a lot about him, even
though you know the interviews are out there is the
album that came out was pretty dope or mixtape or
whatever it is, so he was able to do a
(08:15):
lot of flips, but it's a lot of unknown. So
I don't know if Joey badass saying what he's saying
about his relationship with TD and blah blah blah. I
don't know the strength of that, right, but it's crazy
to be disting a dude using a lot of top
dog and TDE references when you just did like a
comrade freestyle with Damn. I'm gearing to call him daylight Abs,
(08:41):
so stop sleeping on as sol By the way, stop it.
He could spit all right, and you see it. So
as of this recording, we haven't heard anything from Rayvaughn.
But in that same finals freestyle from Joey Badass that
this song towards Rayvon, he's still baiting Kendrick. Now this
(09:05):
is the thing, right, there's two sides of this. First
of all, you'll received if you're watching the video reseed
the hat in Brooklyn all day, right, So that's one, right,
And I don't like, Oh you see the shirt too.
You know what I'm saying, the real king of New York.
Everybody else is pretended, but you kind of you see
(09:26):
it in a way where and I hate to say this, well,
let me say this also, I'm not just from Brooklyn.
I don't just like Joey bands because it's from Brooklyn.
I like Joey Bannas like I like a lot of
his music. I checked for new album songs, even songs
that some people don't like from Joey Banns. I like.
I like him. He's dope to me, And I felt
(09:48):
like in January his freestyle is just so unnecessary because
nobody was asking you if if they wanted you to
battle Kendrick, like nobody. Some people care because they want
Kendrick to go down for what he did for Drake.
(10:08):
Some people care because they're not really into Kendrick style
of music and they're more into Joey Badass style of music.
They think that Joey Badass is more about bars than
Kendrick is. I don't know how you look at this battle.
You just didn't get a lot of what was said.
That's why I get you just didn't get a lot,
Like you have to know. It's like with battle Rack,
right like I said with Ravon, you have to know
(10:31):
enough about this person as a spectator for some lines
to hit. If you didn't know Drake had a questionable
history online that you could look up before AI and
all of that with the minors, then those lines might
have been like what do you mean you know what
(10:54):
I'm saying, the naming of his crew. You might not
even know who's baka gotta wear a case? Why is
he around? Like maybe you don't know who that is?
So in battle rap in general, you have the same thing.
You go back to jay Z and now as you
can go back to all of this, if you don't
have the context in order to hear the rhymes and
(11:15):
get what they're talking about when they're taking shots at
each other, it's a you're listening to a totally different situation,
a totally different battle. And one thing about Joey Badass
as a fan that made me ask this question does
Joey Badass look desperate? Is because I remember he dropped
(11:39):
probably my favorite, well I won't say favorite, but one
of my favorite albums of his American Badass, not too
long after The Pimp a Butterfly, and it had the
same tone as far as the concept right, which which
is where why would you dys Kendrick? But at at
(12:02):
that time, I was like, man, this is a really
dope album, but nobody's going to care because to Pimple
Butterflies out and it's already checking that box. But what
Joey did wasn't exactly like in the same way that
to Pimple Butterfly did like musically, to Pimple Butterflies, everything
is black music in general. It's not just hip hop,
(12:25):
whereas Joey's musical side for that album was hip hop.
But it's still about black lives matter, still about black
men young, you know, black men in general getting killed,
or police brutality and all of that. It had all
the same beats and it was very dope to me.
There was room for both. But when that album didn't
(12:47):
hit in a way it should have, then it kind
of went back to the well with what people were
familiar with and put out an album. I think it
was the Joint. I think he had one between, but
most notably the joint that was called two thousand, which
was a sequel to his nineteen ninety nine record He Got.
(13:08):
I think he had Diddy, think he had Diddy on
it doing it. Scared shit, Oh pardon me, family, podcast
my back. Sometimes they slip out children, but also nas like.
He had all these code signs of him lyrically, and
it still didn't pop in a way I think he
(13:30):
wanted it to, even though his fans were there Yold
Barnes is back, Don't Sleep with My Homie and all
of that. It felt like he was like not getting
the attention he wanted, and it felt like he has
it's time for him to have a new album out
(13:52):
and instead of you know, his the new singles he
put out that didn't really crack for people like that,
what's the Past Poor and Luggage or something like that.
I liked it, but a lot of people didn't like
it because it wasn't Bars, and he was doing a
lot of singing. So I think to satisfy himself and
(14:14):
to satisfy those fans who want him to be about Bars,
he's just decided I'm gonna just start disting because it's claid.
You know, that's what y'all want. And in a lot
of ways, he's right. This is probably the most universal
attention he's gotten on his music maybe ever. Right, it's
(14:36):
not saying he's not successful and he didn't have dope
albums and people don't like him. He's almost like Big Sean,
it's like damned if you actually when you look at it,
which is kind of like an underlying THINGU man, we're
gonna move on that promise, Big Sean, Joey Badass, and
(14:56):
I keep getting in say Daylight and as so oh
kind of have the same careers in a lot of ways.
Big Sean is probably the most successful. Then it's Joey
than his abs Soul, but they always exist in the
shadows of others, right they It's never like Joey dropped something.
(15:19):
He rolls above Drake or he rolls above you know,
Big Jean or Kendrick right, same thing would ab So
he doesn't even rise above his peers on the label,
right and with Big Sean, with him, even though he's
more successful. His last album, which was pretty good, was
(15:40):
dropped during his battle and know everybody forgot. Everybody forgot
or didn't look So I get it. I believe there's
a little bit of desperation because in a lot of ways,
this is the way he's getting people's attention, and maybe
when he drops his album there'll be more people incline
to listen to see what it sounds like, even if
(16:02):
they're there to hear another Distracord. It's just a way
to draw attention. I think it is desperate because I
think if you're going to ascend to a level that's
bigger than where you are. You just got to do
it with great music. Period. You can't. I mean, you
can try to find ways to market yourself, but calling
(16:27):
out Kendrick to possibly get ignored will probably backfire, you know.
I know he doesn't want to battle Rayvon in daylight
like they haven't. They haven't achieved the success Joey Badass
is achieved, right, even at his level, which is, you know,
(16:49):
not just way below Kendrick if you ask me, but
still credible. I don't think he wants to accept his position,
and in a lot of ways, I'm not mad at that,
because that's what hip hop is about, right. If Kendrick
can go on control and call everybody out and say
step your bars up, watch the party die, and so
(17:11):
can Joey. I just feel like this is probably one
of the most pointless battles ever, not because there's not
bars involved, but because, like, he clearly wants Kendrick to
battle him, but he's just battling the other dudes because
(17:32):
they're the ones who responded, but he wont Kendrick. And
I think Kendrick does not care about this, and he'll
probably address it in some small way. I just hope
it doesn't turn to another battle because on a grander scale,
I love hip hop, I love battles, but styles make fights,
(17:52):
and depended on the matchup, I'm not as interested in
this matchup as I would if it was somebody way
more credible, Like not that Kendrick should spend the rest
of his career battling, but if someone like eminem is
just decided I'm going for Kendrick going at his head pause.
(18:17):
I'm interested in that one because I think lyrically and
what could be said would be more interested than what
Joey's doing right now, just or battled Daylight. You know,
no disrespect to Rayvon, but Joey battling Daylight is more
(18:38):
impressive to me than it would be battling Ravon, because
Ravon in the hip hop game, even though he got
some joints out, he's still unproven, he's still new with
the TDS stamp on him, not necessarily new to the game.
So we'll see where things end up. But honestly, I'm
(18:59):
loosely listening because I don't care. Next story, stoles P
was in an interview recently and he was talking about
very aggressively the difference between him and Jim Jones lyrically,
and he just summed it up like I'm a bar
(19:22):
master and I've been on tracks for such and such,
such and such and such, such and such and such.
Now talking about desperate, this should be right up. Jim
Jones alley. He's been begging anybody who would listen to
battle him. Why because it just brings more attention to
(19:42):
your music. Now, I will say this, honestly, he don't
need any attention on his album that he dropped at
the church front steps this year, because I like it.
I think it's dope, and I think it's one of
the best of the year. I do. But when it
comes to comparisons between him and styles P, and where
(20:02):
this is coming from is like I think Versus is
supposed to come back and that's a potential battle. But again,
Styles make fights unattended, and we all know Stoles P
will wipe the floor with Jim Jones, wipe the floor
with him. He is not there, not on the same
(20:23):
level Jim Jones. What he makes that I like, it's cool,
it sounds good, it sounds good to the beats. It's
a certain vibe, not the old Yian vibe. Well yeah,
it's kind of some of that, but you don't have
to be one to enjoy it. I think there's just
something to be said about him even if he ain't
(20:48):
raining it, because that's another thing, but his commitment to
what he says, right, because everything he says is a
jewel for you to grow up on. Lot of things.
You could tell this a struggle with him personally between
the streets, the church and like family and him trying
(21:10):
to balance all of that and it makes him dope.
And what stoles stoles Pe brings to the to a
battle is a lot of the same things that you
wouldn't think right. He got the street side of him also,
but Stout's pet catalog has a lot of conscious music
in it, so he's like street conscious, kind of like
(21:32):
when you know n W A s Thus kind of
got in that bad. But when it comes to technique
bar work. Never was I blown away by a Jim
Jones verse, right, never was as even as an MC.
I was like, hmm, I just think Jim Jones says
(21:55):
some cool ish, right, but stoles P can say the
cool ish, but he will break you down as an MC.
What he said, bar Master, he's not lying. He is
arguably the best one in the Lox. There was a
point in the time where I didn't think that I
thought a kiss was but early kiss was a monster,
(22:20):
and she too, she kind of still is. His current
verses do nothing for me, and I don't say anything
because it's Jadakiss. I love Jadakiss, but I don't think
Jadakiss is as hungry as it used to be. I
think stoles P is always humble. That's why he would
(22:40):
say this. So I'm not gonna watch your verses. Of
those two, I would accept one disrecord from Jim Jones
and one disrecord from styles P because I know what's
gonna happen. It's gonna end now. I will be surprised
if I'm like, oh, Jimmy Joy, I just don't think
(23:02):
it's gonna happen. So what do you think about that
hip hop heads watched this channel, they listen to this podcast.
I know the answer. But do you think Jimmy even
has a chance in a versus against stows P. Jimmy
got hits. He got a couple of hits, but stoles
(23:23):
P have a couple solo joints too, like one or
two of his solo joints. I don't know they matched
Jimmy in some way, so we'll see. I don't want
to see it at all, to be honest, but you
know what I'd rather see stowns versus kiss. That's a versus.
Let's get to that. Shout out to uh what's his name?
(23:45):
Says that lastly. So last year in my best of
twenty twenty four in my top five was Snoop and
Doctor Dre's album Missionary and No, it wasn't doggy Style,
(24:07):
it wasn't the chronic. It was let's just say bigger
and sound and approach and features. And I thought it
was really good, right, I thought it was really good.
I liked it a lot. And then in January, Snoop
took all that goodwill, all that momentum, and flushed it
(24:30):
down the toilet when he performed at We're not saying
his name on this podcast on the current president's inauguration.
Right now, I'm just gonna give y'all disclaimer, write out
the box. I don't need entertainers I like, of any form, film, music,
(24:54):
whatever it may be, even podcasts, who had the same
political views as myself or vote for the same person.
Now as a black Man. Sure I had better expectations
for someone like Snoop. Nelly kind of looked desperate. Ain't
gonna front Soldier Boy. He did what he did and
(25:15):
he ain't shy about it, So I'm not even mad
at him, and he probably who knows, he might have
voted the other way. But Snoop, on the other hand,
was kind of disappointing, you know. And I think even
though I didn't deliberately stop listening to Missionary because of that,
it just put a bad taste in my mouth. And
(25:37):
you know, I was like, I'll revisit it because I
liked it. So I think Brother Malcolm X said do
not look to entertainers for advice or views or leadership
on things like the world's troubles or politics or whatever.
And I believe that, and I believe that Snoop, just
(25:59):
like Nelly, just like Soldier Boy, did it for the money.
But when your base is on the other side, well
they start to look at it like we're not messing
with you no more. We don't trust you. But Snoop says,
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is It a Crime? Which is the title of his
latest surprise album, where he's now also working with Spotify.
After having issues with the way they pay out, so
who knows. Maybe his books look different than most artists now.
But it's a surprise album from Snoop that just dropped
(26:41):
called Is It a Crime on Death Row Records, which
I always smile when I see that. It's twenty one
songs but only clocking in and an out, so it's
not a long album at all. It's just that some
of those songs he could have took off. I ain't
gonna friend he could have took them off. Okay, So
(27:04):
for those who don't know who are new here. When
I review albums, I give him three listens, right, first listen,
I'm just checking out what's there. Second listen, Okay, now
I'm gonna listen a little bit more deeper into the
lyrics and the concepts and the beats. And the third
listen is just to confirm my thoughts. So for those
who want to quick review, this is a good album.
(27:29):
This is one of Snoop's better albums, and typically he
doesn't do to back good albums in my opinion, So
then you have that. Is it best of the year? Nah?
Will it be in my top five? No, but it
(27:49):
could be within that section of albums that I call
the best of the year, But we have a long
way to go in twenty twenty five, so it may
fall out of that quickly. Right now, I will say
this well really quick. Features on the album include October London.
(28:10):
I feel like they used October London just to sound
like Marvin Gay. Like you know who is we had
on Head? We wish we had Marvin Gay October and
that's his whole purpose on death Row. So he need
to get out of there if he want to get
out of Marvin's shadow. Who else is on Head? La
Russell or is it l Russell? I don't know how
(28:31):
you pronounce it. Who else wis? Khelifa is on this album?
Correll is on his album? Sexy Red is on his
album I'm gonna just review that one real quick. Sexy
Red can't rap to me, like at all, Like she
can't rap. She can't rap. There's a difference between your
(28:53):
saying things and you're rapping, but she can't rap. Rap
is karaoke to her. It's not embedded. Everybody don't have
to be a bar king. But when you look at
somebody like low Realer, you could tell she likes to rap.
You may not like the rap, but you could tell
the way she spits it negative stallion Cardi B you
could tell they they know rap, they know how to
(29:17):
have that energy. Sexy Red sounds like she has trouble talking,
let alone rapping. And don't worry, it's not just about
the ladies, because that's how I feel about twenty one Savage.
He can't rap to me, So this song is trash, right,
But out of twenty one songs, skipping is cool. In general.
(29:41):
I feel like with this album, it starts off very strong,
very strong, like you start thinking like, oh he's oh
Snoop Snoop is back two for two, and then you
start getting a mixed bag of sounds songs because I
think the beginning tracks are more boom back soul, full
(30:02):
West Coast sounding like you get all those different vibes
early on that kind of set the tone for the album,
and then you start to get a lot of these
experimental kind of joints. Right, he got one joint that
I feel like, Damn, I don't have the name down
of the track, let me just look real quick. Yeah,
(30:23):
it's just one track that sounds like a beat that
Kendrick would have chose with the vibe that Kendrick would
have done right, like not boom Back, not West Coast,
almost kind of quirky sounding but fun. So I don't
think it's bad. I just it just threw me off
because the way the album starts, like I said, the
(30:46):
Sexy Red Joint is black to me, but the majority
of the music on here is pretty dope for Snoop.
And then also he addresses in a direct but indirect
hip hop way the inauguration and honestly, the bar is
(31:07):
really putting more emphasis on money than political position, which
what I said earlier, I think Snoop did it for
the money, and I think that bag was so big
he didn't care what people thought. To be honest, now
he cares why too late man can't keep doing that.
(31:29):
And then also he sort of addresses well not sort of,
he addresses what Kendrick was saying, specifically whacked out murals,
and he admits to making the wrong move. And this
is the thing with stupid Man. He he is a
(31:51):
walking contradiction. He will do and say things depending on
them mode, you know what I'm saying, And it's kind
of like he want to be left alone to playing
his madden and call of duty in his crib in
its downtime, but then he want to pop out and
say things and do things on the main level, Like dog,
(32:11):
you're famous, this is you already know. This is the
famous life. So as much as people will praise you
for things, they will also criticize you, and a lot
of times deservingly some not a lot of times. But
you know, if that's what it is, then you know
you take it whatever it may be. So is it
a crime by Snoop Dogg? If you like Snoop Dogg albums,
(32:37):
if you didn't like the last album, you may like
this one because it's a different vibe. It's closer to
Blue Carpet Treatment, which is the when you're talking about
Snoop albums like Doggy Start Style and there's a couple
of good ones, but blue Carpet treatment is it, And
I felt Missionary was kind of that. But I think
(32:57):
this is dope. It's just a mixed bag when you
get to that half waypoint if you don't like those
different styles of records that already boom back or straight
up West Coast sound. So what do you think about
Snoop Dogg's brand new album Is it a crime? Leave
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Joey Badass sends shots at Ray Vaughn and Daylight while
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so Big Sean Joey Badass and adds so put together
a freestyle video. I forget the name my bad I
(04:18):
forget the name of the people who do it, but
it's like a three sixty video. You know they're Ramen.
They've got a couple of dope videos out but they're
ramen and the cameras like going around in the circle.
You know, it's it's pretty dope visually. And this freestyle
was interesting because we know what Joey Badass did at
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the beginning of the year calling out West Coast really,
you know, because it was very vague about it. He
tried to explain himself in this one, but I don't really
buy it. Call it buddy kind of does. We'll get
to Joey, but he kind of, he doesn't. He doesn't
(05:00):
touch on he addresses that freestyle and the people who
responded to him back then, most notably Ray Vaughon out
of TDE and also Daylight. You know what I'm saying,
legendary battle rapper. If you don't know to say who's Daylight?
Who is that? Trust me, I'm afraid to hear his
(05:22):
rebuttal to this. But those two in particular, while also
kind of still talking about Kendrick and something that came
a little bit later. But what was interesting that you
would think is, oh, Absol's right there, that's that's Kendrick's homie.
It's West Coast all day. And I think they did
(05:44):
a really dope routine where when it was Absol's turn
to go. He turned to Joey and he was spitting
to him, but it was like a back and forth,
like I know, but like I loved it because it
was like, this is what it's about, right, It ain't
about no beef. So Rayvon chilled with the physical threats.
(06:06):
He can rap, don't get it wrong, he can rap.
But what they displayed Big Sean as and especially Absol
and Joey Badass being in this together right sorry, Big
Sean is happening again. It's like the control verse, which
they kind of touch on. But I think it was
(06:27):
still dope because it showed some solidarity in hip hop
that y'o, we could be competitive, you know what I'm saying.
So I think it was dope in that manner. Might
have been crazy if it was Daylight Rayvaon and Joey
Badass that did it, that might have been crazy, but
Joey would have got jumped. So right off the heels
(06:50):
of that, Rayvon is like, here's a new is a
dis record called whole Error with the video here you go,
And I like he's pretty dope. I think his first
response when he was rhyming over the hard part six
not that Drake Trash, the one on gn X, I
(07:12):
thought that was fire. This one was like, Okay, this
is kind of a warm up kind of thing, But
I don't think he should have came with a warm
up when your originally was so dope. But nevertheless, Ravon
still had bars. Not too long after that, Joey drops
a joint call I think the Finals and he goes
(07:32):
directly at Rayvon and he breaks him down to the
organic compound, like he breaks him down right, And I
just felt like joe that was the freestyle siteher thing,
and that was the best to me, that Joey sound
lyrically out of all these back and forth stating back
(07:54):
to the beginning of the year, that was the best
because he was like laser focused on Rayvon. The thing
is is where Rayvaughn, a lot of people don't know him,
and they don't really know a lot about him, even
though you know the interviews are out there is the
album that came out was pretty dope or mixtape or
whatever it is, so he was able to do a
(08:15):
lot of flips, but it's a lot of unknown. So
I don't know if Joey badass saying what he's saying
about his relationship with TD and blah blah blah. I
don't know the strength of that, right, but it's crazy
to be disting a dude using a lot of top
dog and TDE references when you just did like a
comrade freestyle with Damn. I'm gearing to call him daylight Abs,
(08:41):
so stop sleeping on as sol By the way, stop it.
He could spit all right, and you see it. So
as of this recording, we haven't heard anything from Rayvaughn.
But in that same finals freestyle from Joey Badass that
this song towards Rayvon, he's still baiting Kendrick. Now this
(09:05):
is the thing, right, there's two sides of this. First
of all, you'll received if you're watching the video reseed
the hat in Brooklyn all day, right, So that's one, right,
And I don't like, Oh you see the shirt too.
You know what I'm saying, the real king of New York.
Everybody else is pretended, but you kind of you see
(09:26):
it in a way where and I hate to say this, well,
let me say this also, I'm not just from Brooklyn.
I don't just like Joey bands because it's from Brooklyn.
I like Joey Bannas like I like a lot of
his music. I checked for new album songs, even songs
that some people don't like from Joey Banns. I like.
I like him. He's dope to me, And I felt
(09:48):
like in January his freestyle is just so unnecessary because
nobody was asking you if if they wanted you to
battle Kendrick, like nobody. Some people care because they want
Kendrick to go down for what he did for Drake.
(10:08):
Some people care because they're not really into Kendrick style
of music and they're more into Joey Badass style of music.
They think that Joey Badass is more about bars than
Kendrick is. I don't know how you look at this battle.
You just didn't get a lot of what was said.
That's why I get you just didn't get a lot,
Like you have to know. It's like with battle Rack,
right like I said with Ravon, you have to know
(10:31):
enough about this person as a spectator for some lines
to hit. If you didn't know Drake had a questionable
history online that you could look up before AI and
all of that with the minors, then those lines might
have been like what do you mean you know what
(10:54):
I'm saying, the naming of his crew. You might not
even know who's baka gotta wear a case? Why is
he around? Like maybe you don't know who that is?
So in battle rap in general, you have the same thing.
You go back to jay Z and now as you
can go back to all of this, if you don't
have the context in order to hear the rhymes and
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get what they're talking about when they're taking shots at
each other, it's a you're listening to a totally different situation,
a totally different battle. And one thing about Joey Badass
as a fan that made me ask this question does
Joey Badass look desperate? Is because I remember he dropped
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probably my favorite, well I won't say favorite, but one
of my favorite albums of his American Badass, not too
long after The Pimp a Butterfly, and it had the
same tone as far as the concept right, which which
is where why would you dys Kendrick? But at at
(12:02):
that time, I was like, man, this is a really
dope album, but nobody's going to care because to Pimple
Butterflies out and it's already checking that box. But what
Joey did wasn't exactly like in the same way that
to Pimple Butterfly did like musically, to Pimple Butterflies, everything
is black music in general. It's not just hip hop,
(12:25):
whereas Joey's musical side for that album was hip hop.
But it's still about black lives matter, still about black
men young, you know, black men in general getting killed,
or police brutality and all of that. It had all
the same beats and it was very dope to me.
There was room for both. But when that album didn't
(12:47):
hit in a way it should have, then it kind
of went back to the well with what people were
familiar with and put out an album. I think it
was the Joint. I think he had one between, but
most notably the joint that was called two thousand, which
was a sequel to his nineteen ninety nine record He Got.
(13:08):
I think he had Diddy, think he had Diddy on
it doing it. Scared shit, Oh pardon me, family, podcast
my back. Sometimes they slip out children, but also nas like.
He had all these code signs of him lyrically, and
it still didn't pop in a way I think he
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wanted it to, even though his fans were there Yold
Barnes is back, Don't Sleep with My Homie and all
of that. It felt like he was like not getting
the attention he wanted, and it felt like he has
it's time for him to have a new album out
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and instead of you know, his the new singles he
put out that didn't really crack for people like that,
what's the Past Poor and Luggage or something like that.
I liked it, but a lot of people didn't like
it because it wasn't Bars, and he was doing a
lot of singing. So I think to satisfy himself and
(14:14):
to satisfy those fans who want him to be about Bars,
he's just decided I'm gonna just start disting because it's claid.
You know, that's what y'all want. And in a lot
of ways, he's right. This is probably the most universal
attention he's gotten on his music maybe ever. Right, it's
(14:36):
not saying he's not successful and he didn't have dope
albums and people don't like him. He's almost like Big Sean,
it's like damned if you actually when you look at it,
which is kind of like an underlying THINGU man, we're
gonna move on that promise, Big Sean, Joey Badass, and
(14:56):
I keep getting in say Daylight and as so oh
kind of have the same careers in a lot of ways.
Big Sean is probably the most successful. Then it's Joey
than his abs Soul, but they always exist in the
shadows of others, right they It's never like Joey dropped something.
(15:19):
He rolls above Drake or he rolls above you know,
Big Jean or Kendrick right, same thing would ab So
he doesn't even rise above his peers on the label,
right and with Big Sean, with him, even though he's
more successful. His last album, which was pretty good, was
(15:40):
dropped during his battle and know everybody forgot. Everybody forgot
or didn't look So I get it. I believe there's
a little bit of desperation because in a lot of ways,
this is the way he's getting people's attention, and maybe
when he drops his album there'll be more people incline
to listen to see what it sounds like, even if
(16:02):
they're there to hear another Distracord. It's just a way
to draw attention. I think it is desperate because I
think if you're going to ascend to a level that's
bigger than where you are. You just got to do
it with great music. Period. You can't. I mean, you
can try to find ways to market yourself, but calling
(16:27):
out Kendrick to possibly get ignored will probably backfire, you know.
I know he doesn't want to battle Rayvon in daylight
like they haven't. They haven't achieved the success Joey Badass
is achieved, right, even at his level, which is, you know,
(16:49):
not just way below Kendrick if you ask me, but
still credible. I don't think he wants to accept his position,
and in a lot of ways, I'm not mad at that,
because that's what hip hop is about, right. If Kendrick
can go on control and call everybody out and say
step your bars up, watch the party die, and so
(17:11):
can Joey. I just feel like this is probably one
of the most pointless battles ever, not because there's not
bars involved, but because, like, he clearly wants Kendrick to
battle him, but he's just battling the other dudes because
(17:32):
they're the ones who responded, but he wont Kendrick. And
I think Kendrick does not care about this, and he'll
probably address it in some small way. I just hope
it doesn't turn to another battle because on a grander scale,
I love hip hop, I love battles, but styles make fights,
(17:52):
and depended on the matchup, I'm not as interested in
this matchup as I would if it was somebody way
more credible, Like not that Kendrick should spend the rest
of his career battling, but if someone like eminem is
just decided I'm going for Kendrick going at his head pause.
(18:17):
I'm interested in that one because I think lyrically and
what could be said would be more interested than what
Joey's doing right now, just or battled Daylight. You know,
no disrespect to Rayvon, but Joey battling Daylight is more
(18:38):
impressive to me than it would be battling Ravon, because
Ravon in the hip hop game, even though he got
some joints out, he's still unproven, he's still new with
the TDS stamp on him, not necessarily new to the game.
So we'll see where things end up. But honestly, I'm
(18:59):
loosely listening because I don't care. Next story, stoles P
was in an interview recently and he was talking about
very aggressively the difference between him and Jim Jones lyrically,
and he just summed it up like I'm a bar
(19:22):
master and I've been on tracks for such and such,
such and such and such, such and such and such.
Now talking about desperate, this should be right up. Jim
Jones alley. He's been begging anybody who would listen to
battle him. Why because it just brings more attention to
(19:42):
your music. Now, I will say this, honestly, he don't
need any attention on his album that he dropped at
the church front steps this year, because I like it.
I think it's dope, and I think it's one of
the best of the year. I do. But when it
comes to comparisons between him and styles P, and where
(20:02):
this is coming from is like I think Versus is
supposed to come back and that's a potential battle. But again,
Styles make fights unattended, and we all know Stoles P
will wipe the floor with Jim Jones, wipe the floor
with him. He is not there, not on the same
(20:23):
level Jim Jones. What he makes that I like, it's cool,
it sounds good, it sounds good to the beats. It's
a certain vibe, not the old Yian vibe. Well yeah,
it's kind of some of that, but you don't have
to be one to enjoy it. I think there's just
something to be said about him even if he ain't
(20:48):
raining it, because that's another thing, but his commitment to
what he says, right, because everything he says is a
jewel for you to grow up on. Lot of things.
You could tell this a struggle with him personally between
the streets, the church and like family and him trying
(21:10):
to balance all of that and it makes him dope.
And what stoles stoles Pe brings to the to a
battle is a lot of the same things that you
wouldn't think right. He got the street side of him also,
but Stout's pet catalog has a lot of conscious music
in it, so he's like street conscious, kind of like
(21:32):
when you know n W A s Thus kind of
got in that bad. But when it comes to technique
bar work. Never was I blown away by a Jim
Jones verse, right, never was as even as an MC.
I was like, hmm, I just think Jim Jones says
(21:55):
some cool ish, right, but stoles P can say the
cool ish, but he will break you down as an MC.
What he said, bar Master, he's not lying. He is
arguably the best one in the Lox. There was a
point in the time where I didn't think that I
thought a kiss was but early kiss was a monster,
(22:20):
and she too, she kind of still is. His current
verses do nothing for me, and I don't say anything
because it's Jadakiss. I love Jadakiss, but I don't think
Jadakiss is as hungry as it used to be. I
think stoles P is always humble. That's why he would
(22:40):
say this. So I'm not gonna watch your verses. Of
those two, I would accept one disrecord from Jim Jones
and one disrecord from styles P because I know what's
gonna happen. It's gonna end now. I will be surprised
if I'm like, oh, Jimmy Joy, I just don't think
(23:02):
it's gonna happen. So what do you think about that
hip hop heads watched this channel, they listen to this podcast.
I know the answer. But do you think Jimmy even
has a chance in a versus against stows P. Jimmy
got hits. He got a couple of hits, but stoles
(23:23):
P have a couple solo joints too, like one or
two of his solo joints. I don't know they matched
Jimmy in some way, so we'll see. I don't want
to see it at all, to be honest, but you
know what I'd rather see stowns versus kiss. That's a versus.
Let's get to that. Shout out to uh what's his name?
(23:45):
Says that lastly. So last year in my best of
twenty twenty four in my top five was Snoop and
Doctor Dre's album Missionary and No, it wasn't doggy Style,
(24:07):
it wasn't the chronic. It was let's just say bigger
and sound and approach and features. And I thought it
was really good, right, I thought it was really good.
I liked it a lot. And then in January, Snoop
took all that goodwill, all that momentum, and flushed it
(24:30):
down the toilet when he performed at We're not saying
his name on this podcast on the current president's inauguration.
Right now, I'm just gonna give y'all disclaimer, write out
the box. I don't need entertainers I like, of any form, film, music,
(24:54):
whatever it may be, even podcasts, who had the same
political views as myself or vote for the same person.
Now as a black Man. Sure I had better expectations
for someone like Snoop. Nelly kind of looked desperate. Ain't
gonna front Soldier Boy. He did what he did and
(25:15):
he ain't shy about it, So I'm not even mad
at him, and he probably who knows, he might have
voted the other way. But Snoop, on the other hand,
was kind of disappointing, you know. And I think even
though I didn't deliberately stop listening to Missionary because of that,
it just put a bad taste in my mouth. And
(25:37):
you know, I was like, I'll revisit it because I
liked it. So I think Brother Malcolm X said do
not look to entertainers for advice or views or leadership
on things like the world's troubles or politics or whatever.
And I believe that, and I believe that Snoop, just
(25:59):
like Nelly, just like Soldier Boy, did it for the money.
But when your base is on the other side, well
they start to look at it like we're not messing
with you no more. We don't trust you. But Snoop says,
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is It a Crime? Which is the title of his
latest surprise album, where he's now also working with Spotify.
After having issues with the way they pay out, so
who knows. Maybe his books look different than most artists now.
But it's a surprise album from Snoop that just dropped
(26:41):
called Is It a Crime on Death Row Records, which
I always smile when I see that. It's twenty one
songs but only clocking in and an out, so it's
not a long album at all. It's just that some
of those songs he could have took off. I ain't
gonna friend he could have took them off. Okay, So
(27:04):
for those who don't know who are new here. When
I review albums, I give him three listens, right, first listen,
I'm just checking out what's there. Second listen, Okay, now
I'm gonna listen a little bit more deeper into the
lyrics and the concepts and the beats. And the third
listen is just to confirm my thoughts. So for those
who want to quick review, this is a good album.
(27:29):
This is one of Snoop's better albums, and typically he
doesn't do to back good albums in my opinion, So
then you have that. Is it best of the year? Nah?
Will it be in my top five? No, but it
(27:49):
could be within that section of albums that I call
the best of the year, But we have a long
way to go in twenty twenty five, so it may
fall out of that quickly. Right now, I will say
this well really quick. Features on the album include October London.
(28:10):
I feel like they used October London just to sound
like Marvin Gay. Like you know who is we had
on Head? We wish we had Marvin Gay October and
that's his whole purpose on death Row. So he need
to get out of there if he want to get
out of Marvin's shadow. Who else is on Head? La
Russell or is it l Russell? I don't know how
(28:31):
you pronounce it. Who else wis? Khelifa is on this album?
Correll is on his album? Sexy Red is on his
album I'm gonna just review that one real quick. Sexy
Red can't rap to me, like at all, Like she
can't rap. She can't rap. There's a difference between your
(28:53):
saying things and you're rapping, but she can't rap. Rap
is karaoke to her. It's not embedded. Everybody don't have
to be a bar king. But when you look at
somebody like low Realer, you could tell she likes to rap.
You may not like the rap, but you could tell
the way she spits it negative stallion Cardi B you
could tell they they know rap, they know how to
(29:17):
have that energy. Sexy Red sounds like she has trouble talking,
let alone rapping. And don't worry, it's not just about
the ladies, because that's how I feel about twenty one Savage.
He can't rap to me, So this song is trash, right,
But out of twenty one songs, skipping is cool. In general.
(29:41):
I feel like with this album, it starts off very strong,
very strong, like you start thinking like, oh he's oh
Snoop Snoop is back two for two, and then you
start getting a mixed bag of sounds songs because I
think the beginning tracks are more boom back soul, full
(30:02):
West Coast sounding like you get all those different vibes
early on that kind of set the tone for the album,
and then you start to get a lot of these
experimental kind of joints. Right, he got one joint that
I feel like, Damn, I don't have the name down
of the track, let me just look real quick. Yeah,
(30:23):
it's just one track that sounds like a beat that
Kendrick would have chose with the vibe that Kendrick would
have done right, like not boom Back, not West Coast,
almost kind of quirky sounding but fun. So I don't
think it's bad. I just it just threw me off
because the way the album starts, like I said, the
(30:46):
Sexy Red Joint is black to me, but the majority
of the music on here is pretty dope for Snoop.
And then also he addresses in a direct but indirect
hip hop way the inauguration and honestly, the bar is
(31:07):
really putting more emphasis on money than political position, which
what I said earlier, I think Snoop did it for
the money, and I think that bag was so big
he didn't care what people thought. To be honest, now
he cares why too late man can't keep doing that.
(31:29):
And then also he sort of addresses well not sort of,
he addresses what Kendrick was saying, specifically whacked out murals,
and he admits to making the wrong move. And this
is the thing with stupid Man. He he is a
(31:51):
walking contradiction. He will do and say things depending on
them mode, you know what I'm saying, And it's kind
of like he want to be left alone to playing
his madden and call of duty in his crib in
its downtime, but then he want to pop out and
say things and do things on the main level, Like dog,
(32:11):
you're famous, this is you already know. This is the
famous life. So as much as people will praise you
for things, they will also criticize you, and a lot
of times deservingly some not a lot of times. But
you know, if that's what it is, then you know
you take it whatever it may be. So is it
a crime by Snoop Dogg? If you like Snoop Dogg albums,
(32:37):
if you didn't like the last album, you may like
this one because it's a different vibe. It's closer to
Blue Carpet Treatment, which is the when you're talking about
Snoop albums like Doggy Start Style and there's a couple
of good ones, but blue Carpet treatment is it, And
I felt Missionary was kind of that. But I think
(32:57):
this is dope. It's just a mixed bag when you
get to that half waypoint if you don't like those
different styles of records that already boom back or straight
up West Coast sound. So what do you think about
Snoop Dogg's brand new album Is it a crime? Leave
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.