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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on this week's episode of Hip Hop Now podcast,
more flowers for the clips, this time at the Vatican.
Doctor Dre has a diplomatic album he produced that will
Never Drop.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
In my review on.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
The official release of Jay Electronica's other solo album, Act two,
along with a bonus Yeah it got complicated last night,
Let's do it.
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It's a situation where the clips are essentially the biggest
thing of the year. We might as well come out
with it and just say it, right, Even if you
didn't like the album, it's hard to pause. It's hard
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to not agree that their album captured a big moment
in hip hop and a similar way to the Drake
in Kendrick Lamar battle. Right, everybody was talking about it,
everybody was going to the tour. Not everybody, but you
know what I mean, buying vinyl, like that's probably the
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first time I bought vinyl for a new album right away,
like I had to have it, which is something I
went out and did the rollout right, the tiny Desks
being on all the shows giving quotables and interviews, Malice
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turning into memes, Malice being like probably MC of the
Year easily. And I don't only say that because of
the Clips album, because if you listen to the record
community on on Jid's album.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Malices Verse, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And he's been a guest on a couple of other
projects where he got busy, and he's going to be
on MOB Deeps album also, but well, the Clips will
be on MYB Deeps album.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But that's what I mean. It's like the Clips have
just been big and now they just did something even bigger.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Right, So this week it was this is on Hip
Hop DX dot com. Clips performed first ever rap concert
at the Vatican. At the Vatican, the Clips Coke rappers,
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I stuffed a blizzard in a Honda Civic white glove service.
I am Luigi at the Vatican. Now, I didn't watch set,
so the only song I heard was probably the most
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appropriate song for the Vatican, I assume, which was the
first song off the album where they talk about you know,
their parents and passing, which is a song that it's
it's almost like a perfect set of for the album.
But I'm not gonna review the album. Uh again, you
can check it out on the channel. We did a
whole breakdown review and all that good stuff. But I'll
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say this, every time the Clips start to die down
and we start to get in the groove of other
albums as far as their exposure in the public, something
else happens to remind you. Right, Like you know, when
it starts to die down a little bit, there shows happen.
And then it was like fighths the song with Stove
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God cooks on the hook started to rise and then
stove God was getting on this attention. It was like
and it's just going right back to the Clips album.
And like I said, when I review Jid's album, I
feel like that's one of the best albums of the
year and the Clips are on it. And it's a
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good chance that, you know, from what I've heard so far,
like with the Mob Deep Stuff, Clips are on that.
So by the end of the year, it's just going
to be crazy. It's going to be a crazy victory
lap for the Clips.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
And one last thing, every time I hear a song
from that album, I want to go listen to the
whole album. Like it's hands down the number probably the
number one album.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You know how they do those year end reviews.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
On Apple and Spotify, Clips is going to be at
the very top of mine. It already is when you
look at the replay list for my account, Clips is right,
like damn it, the whole ablems there. So I think
it's a dope look for the Clips to do something
like this. And what I liked about it more than
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anything is it felt like it should be then And
I don't know why it was. Maybe it was the
you know, I think they I believe it came out
in tuxedos, and you know, it was kind of like
Na's performing Illmatic was like a classy affair. But it's
something about the articulation, articulation when they're rymen, when they're
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really when they're roymen. That's what's most important. The technique.
They sound like, every word matters, every word is worth
millions of dollars. Every word is art right, and that's
how they perform. Also, so to be at the Vatican
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and the way it looked also was just like it's perfect.
They could probably do a whole other tour, but just
do it like Nas with this with the symphony and
they ensuits.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
There's something to be said about that.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like when I was watching Nas, I'm like, damn, he's
performing Illmatic and the talk about Project Halways and crack
and all and crackheads. But somehow this is still feels
like high brow, you know, like like hey, yo, don't
don't weigh your dusty times to this event, even though
some people did, but I thought it was dope.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Next same.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Doctor Dre apparently produced some songs for the diplomats back
in the days that are in the vault and apparently
will never be released.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's what's being said.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And this is allegedly allegedly unreleased music, but somehow I
don't doubt it. This is also from hip hop d
X dot Co Doctor J. Doctor Dre reportedly has a
load of unreleased music he made with Diplomats. According to
Tony Yayo, Now I know what you're going to say, like, wait,
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what gen you and it Tony ya yo, Like what
the hell? But remember, like Tony Yo has a relationship
with Dre also, and he was around fifty and you know,
I'm pretty sure Dre talks and all that good stuff.
But this was on Shannon Sharp's podcast Club Shayshe which
I do not watch, but I do watch Nightcap.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I like Nightcap for sports.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Uh, and he revealed this if I could get past
it to god damn advertisement he said, and I quote,
doctor Dre is just a real picky MF. He did
records with Dipset and that ish ain't never come out.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
He did.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
He did records with certain people and they never coming out.
But he's like a real particular N word. I remember
that he used to tell fifty to do one line
over and over again, do it over say like this,
and I understood. Sometimes it's not what you say is
how you say it. Dre is an efing perfectionist. That
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was an experience. Now, if you are extremely close to
hip hoppy, you pay attention to everything. This is not
news doctor Dre being a perfectionist to the point where
if you don't get it right, you're not coming out.
You might get dropped from the label. It's just how
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particular he is. But I feel like how Snoop feels.
Snoop feels like I don't care if he asked me
to say the same word one hundred times over because
I know when it's said and done and that album
is finished, it will.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Sound like perfection.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And if you watch this podcast enough, if you listen
to an album, like some people when they think of
doctor Dre, they only go back to Compton, right, which
obviously some of that's there, But the albums that you
really need to listen to to really hear Doctor Dre
at the master level of sound quality. Compton album which
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was dope. I know you hate it on it, but
it was dope. But listen to that joint in this
recent missionary album. The sound quality, the crispness of people's voices, lyrics,
articulation like it's so great. It's similar to what I
was just saying about the clips, right, it's and I
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don't even think that music is dope, but I don't
think quality wise, it's on the level of what Dre does,
like what he did with Marsha Ambrosia.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Like if you have.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Good headphones, but if you have excellent headphones that really
especially like the over the ear joints that take advantage
of the quality of the sound, the and they kind
of represent if it's plugged in, right and not bluetooth.
If it's they kind of represent what the engineer, what
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the producer, the artists created, right.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's not a dumb down version, a compressed version.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's like every everything they wanted you to hear, you
need some really quality headphones in order to take it
take advantage of that. And you know, streaming services like
Apple will and now Spotify have lossless audio, so you
can really get that because there are plenty of albums
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I know, for me just a little sidebar where you know,
I've heard them for years and you know maybe they've
added spatial audio.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And the minute I got headphones that could take advantage
of some of that, I was like, Wow, this album
sounds different, Like I'm hearing things I don't remember hearing
in the records previously, and they were there, but they
were subdued, like for example, Biggie's Somebody got the what's
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the YouTube term when you don't want to well, I
don't get amount of tize anyway. Somebody gotta die, right,
I remember back in the days, me and my friends
like played around with the audio and we can only
hear the backtrack and it was like a big and
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puff created like a whole damn movie under Somebody Got
to Die, like with sound effects and everything.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
All you heard was the talking, the steps, the rain,
like it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But we had to do something with the stereo in
order to hear that right, and we just listened to
it like, damn, it's crazy, it's dead because you really
couldn't hear it in the song. You can hear that
there were things happening in the background, but it wasn't clear.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I listened to that same song a couple of days ago,
the remastered version that I bought a while ago, and
now that background was like it was almost too clear,
So I was, you know, I liked it, but then
at the same time, I was kind of like, my
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tension span is going from Biggs lyrics to that and
back and forth. But I said all of that to
say that is how doctor Dre rolls like. He is
a perfectionist. He does not want to put anything out
that he doesn't feel is up to par. And it
was the main reason why we never got Detox because
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Doctor Dre didn't feel like it was ready for prime time,
which is unfortunate because everybody we talked about it was like, oh,
songs is crazy, blah blah blah. But Doctor Dre like, Nah,
this ain't it. This is not what I want to do. Eventually,
I get the feeling in this day and age, we'll
probably hear something, whether it's from the diplomat side, Rock
(17:15):
Him stuff, Eve whoever, and whatever else he got in
the vault that's on lot.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
But I don't think doctor Dre will release it himself
because he don't want us to hear that. So lastly,
speaking of in the vault.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And coming outside, but maybe everybody already played Freeze tag
and now they're going to eat dinner in you late
Jay Electronica has officially released his solo album at two
the Patents of Nobility, the turn that's a lot. But
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he also released a written testimony leaf flets. Now, I
know you're saying to yourself, what the hell is going
on and what is that? Back in twenty twenty, when
Jay Electronica released a surprise to most of us. This
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was during the lockdown and all of that with COVID
the pandemic, he released an album called A Written Testimony.
Everybody was like, let's go listen to it. But when
we listen to it, be like, damn. Jay Z is
on every record, and he sounds way better than Jay
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Electronica on here. It's almost a jay Z album, the
way he commands his bars on hand and he's getting busy,
like jay Z was rapping in the way he had
hadn't rapped years on that album, which was supposed to
be Jay Electronanica's album.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And I liked it. I know some people who didn't
like it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I know some people who was like, yo, we waited
all this time for Jay Electronica to drop an album
like ten years, and when he drops one, not only
is jay Z on damn every song, but he's also.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Out shining Jay Electronica.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
So Tom and not that much time, maybe a week
or two went by, and then all of a sudden
an album appeared That was j Electronica's solo album and
it featured jay Z but maybe on a song, a
song or two, maybe like three songs and one is
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like the hook and then some talking. But for the
most part it was like, oh, this is the album
we were waiting for, but apparently it was leaked. Now
all of us had it and continue to have it.
But it was kind of weird because when you listen
to the album, if you know, you said, to yourself,
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is this the album Just Blaze was talking about? Because
he was really talking about it, and this album is
really like low key and this just doesn't I don't
think this is what just Blaze was talking about. So
with that being said, back then, I probably did a
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review of the album. But because the album is now
officially released it's out, I listened to it. It's basically
the same album, I think, even quality wise. The covers
different that Written Testimony Leaflets has the exact same cover
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if I'm not mistaken, And on the one hand, it
feels like okay, and by the way, this is I
know Jay Electronica. I believe is off of rock Nation
now and maybe signed to Griselda. I think that was
the word. But these projects, all three of these albums
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I mentioned, including a written testimony from twenty twenty, are
all distributed through rock Nation, it says it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So I went ahead and did.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
What I typically do when I review album because I
hadn't listened to this album since probably twenty twenty. At
two features fourteen songs and clocks in around forty three minutes.
If it features Rikabadu, jay Z and a couple of
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other people who I can't see their name, so whatever.
One feature is Ronald Reagan, but it is a feature
if you just playing stuff. So when it comes to
the reviews, if you don't know, I gave it three listens,
one just to get my impressions. The second listen is
to kind of listen a little bit more intently the
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goal of the album, the theme, the music, all the thing,
all the things about the album. And the third listen
is just to confirm my thoughts for the quick reviewers.
I have the same opinion I had in twenty twenty.
It's okay, a written testimony is better?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Now? What does that say?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Knowing that Jay Z's on damn near every song of
that album. It says that I think in summary, right
that some people are going to be extremely disappointed if
they never heard this album, and some people are going
to be extremely happy. And I'm gonna tell you why
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those two are so different. The people who would be
extremely disappointed are the people who when they heard Exhibit
A through C, but especially Exhibit C, that was the bar.
Excuse me, that was the expectation for a Jay electronica
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album that they've waited ten years to hear, right, And
if you didn't have the bootleg now you was waiting
fifteen right, fifteen years so because this album does not
sound like Exhibit ABS. Maybe A, but it definitely doesn't
sound like Exhibit C at all that energy you got
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from a Jay Electronica it's mostly not here, right. The
type of that type of production is definitely not here. Now,
there's some dope production, because there's some dope records here,
but we've been listening to these records from the album
for over a decade now, and that's not even that's
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not alive for like over a decade, like for example,
Shiny Suit Theory with Jay z Man, we was we
had that record eons ago. You know what I'm saying.
I don't know how long is the eon, but you
get it a long ass time ago. Okay, that's what
it means. But I kind of felt I'm not.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Gonna lie that for the other people who would love
this album.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
This is a sequel to Style Wars, right, remember the EP,
that EP slash album that kind of that features Act
one right, that people discovered, like myself discovered Ja Electronica
and really dug his use of like samples of people
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talking of from like cartoons or in that case is
Willie Wonker. Like people enjoy like this eclectic, mixed bag
of beats, some beat teams, rapping over with Dyla also
and delivery, and it was it was just kind of
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it was the reason why we liked Jay Electronica. So
it's like there's two different versions of him, right, and
this album is the original. It's not the just Blaze exhibitsy,
it's the original version. So when you go into it
with that mind state, if you've heard Style Wars or
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you own it, when you listen to this, everything makes sense.
The you know, the long intros with you know, Ronald
Reagan talking it's like you you were here for that
because that's what it was. You know what I'm saying
early on, you don't really care about the fact that
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there isn't an exhibit see kind of song on here,
because it's really about the messages, the journey, the elements
that bring this album together to make a complete statement again, poetic, eclectic,
all these things. But to me that stuff is niche right,
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It's not for everybody. Some people will find this album
to be completely boring and they'd be like, oh, I
like that shiny Soup joined with jay Z he got
busy on that I went from war in the war
and like, like, your that bar was crazy. Yes it is,
but unfortunately you're not getting the album or we're not
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getting the album that we expected. Now, granted, given this
fact that this was leaked and everybody had it and
it felt like everybody heard it, only the people who've
never heard it are probably going to jump on it
or didn't have it or don't have it anymore.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I probably I take that back.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I probably listened to it twice because I felt like
when it leaked around the time of a written testimony,
I felt like, Wow, I like this better.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
So I was just listening to that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But somewhere down the line, I listened to this album again,
maybe like in twenty twenty one, just to see and
I felt the same way. I felt like, I don't,
I don't. I think this could have worked for him
before Exhibit SE when Act one was Act one in
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some of those mixtapes, when those things were out.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
This probably would have worked at.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That time, which is, you know, like oh nine or
something or twenty ten, you fast forward that many years
in advance after Exhibit C.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Kind of made Jay Electronica name and hip hop.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
People wanted that, and we do not hear what just
Blaze was talking about in this album, So just real quick.
The other release today, Written Testimony Leaflets, seven songs, twenty
eight minutes, features include Quentin Miller, who y'all know him
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from Drake.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And Dram y'all know him from Drake. This one, honestly,
unless you.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Really, really really really loved Jay Electronica and you just
want all the things you didn't get, this is for you,
because quite honestly, I probably won't listen to any of
this ever.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Again.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I mean, there's a certain level of interest, but it's
just not it's just not the time, not after the clips,
not after every Supreme clientele too, not after all jed like,
not after what we've been getting.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Because of Jay electronica situation, maybe we're going to get
new music on Griselda and maybe this is before we
get there. Let's put out the things officially. So have
you heard Jay Electronica's album Act two? Where you disappointed
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when you finally got a true solo album from Jay
Electronica or were you completely satisfied because this is the
Jay Electronica you want to hear. Leave your comments in
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