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Coming up on this week's episode of hip Hop Now
podcast is Little Wayne officially Washed. Timbaland doubles down on
AI music with a new venture, and my thoughts on
Slick Rick's new album Victory. Let's go to the scorecards
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first before we say that. Let's do it. Welcome to
jip Hop Now Pod. Fat as to do from the future.
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The campaign is down. A little bit, but whatever, because
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So that's where we are now. Right now, I think
we're sitting at thirteen thousand, which is more than I
could have asked for. Again, last year, the goal was
to get to a thousand. Now we had thirteen of
the joints, so can't complain for those who maybe didn't
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watch last week's episode, maybe didn't get a chance to
listen to it. I have already put out my best
of twenty twenty five so far, so far, not so far,
not for the year, but so far ahead of the
end of the second quarter, because honestly, I just have
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a feeling within these next couple of weeks that list
is not going to change very much, to be honest.
So you can check that out on the channel it's available.
A couple of joints have dropped that can contend for
my best of the year for sure, but we still
have a long way to go and a number of
albums to drop. Wonder that I'm going to talk about today,
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that drop, we're gonna talk about it today, and so
much more. Right we got the clips coming in July,
so this opportunity for so many projects to get into
my best of the year. So we'll see, but so
far it's been a slower year than last year. Last
year was dope. It was the dope year for hip hop.
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Fifty to fifty year of hip hop was dope. But
this one is kind of slow. So we'll see maybe
the second half of the year picks up and we
get some better releases. Big shout out to hip HOPDX
dot com and brose you for heads in a couple
of places where I'm getting some of my stories from.
Let's get right into the business stuff. Is Lil Wayne
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officially washed? That's the question, you tell me? Is he washed?
What's the last Wayne song you like? What's the last
Wayne album you like? When's the last time you even
checked for Lil Wayne as an artist. Now that's not
to say there are people out there who do all
of those things, because I still check for Little Wayne,
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you know. I checked to see if records are dope
that he releases or albums are. But recently the Carter
six that's sixth stolement in the Carter series. If you're
not keeping up, it dropped and Lulu Wayne has been
getting destroyed on social media. On social media, on YouTube,
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on podcasts, even podcasts that primarily focused on sports are
like reviewing the album and saying it's trash, and I'm
not gonna lie, y'all, I'm low key scared, because let's
just keep it real. I know black folk, you know
white folk, y'all just sit on the side for a second.
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Just listen for black folk. A lot of times we
can see that our family member, not all the time,
but a family member, our friend. It's probably an attic,
it's probably a junkie, but we just keep ignoring the
signs here. Okay, no, look at him. He's standing up straight,
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he breathing our He looks like a junkie. Sometimes he
sounds like a junkie. The Card of Six isn't like
Lil Wayne sounds terrible on every track. He doesn't, but
it does sound like you're getting different versions of Wayne
musically and just vocally, you know, and lyrically. The albums
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such a mixed bag. And I didn't get to review
because I did my Best of the Year last week
and I just it wasn't good, So it wasn't gonna
make that list. But if you were looking for a
review from me in this podcast, it's not good. There's
some songs I like, Don't get me wrong, there's some songs.
There's enough songs that I like to make a solid EP,
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but an album and a sixth installment in the Carter series, which,
if you ask me right now, is three and three right,
three dope entries or whatever installments and three that are
like from so so to just not good, Carter four
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being the one that's like so so so for the
most part. And I guess I said three for three,
three and three, but I think this card of six
just says, stop, stop littling, stop, don't stop making music
for some time, go to rehab or therapy. And maybe
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maybe he's doing some of these things. I don't know.
And what makes it interesting for those who are not
on social media and not able to see the conversation
to know that people are dogging this album. It's not
just the music. Most of the music, there's nothing really
wrong with it. It's just that for what occurred leading
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up to this album and the fact that on the
heels of not getting the super Bowl and I'm Gonna
be Weezy had Baby and all that talk, right, all
that talk, you know, like don't don't wake up the
Lion or whatever he said online. We woke up the
Lion and he was defamed and he didn't have raw anymore,
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and he was all over the place, So it seems
like he didn't really live up to what he was
building right he was. It was almost as if they
were using what he was in the past to tell
you that this album was going to be hot. Because
he's a hip hop icon. Lulu Wayne is the first
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ballot Hall of Famer in hip hop, and it's not
just the Carter series, it's what he did with cash Money,
and it's definitely the mixtape run. His features when he
was hot were crazy, and he was on everybody's stuff
from boom back Underground to the most commercial artists. So
he's he's one of them ones, basically, as the children
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would say, he wanted it at once, But this album
maint good, and I started thinking, like, have we seen
the last of Lil Wayne as an artist making albums?
Not features in a single here and there, but making albums,
because it just looks to me like he has so
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much else going on internally, and you know, trying to
tell us like I'm now I'm good y'all when we
watching videos of you on stage looking like yo dog.
We've been to spots in the hood where like, I'm
from Brooklyn, New York, but I lived in Baltimore for
some time and it was a a portion. I don't
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know if it still happens because I don't live out
there no more, but I know, like the joint Lexitive market,
you will see the themes nodding off just all over
the place, and at some point you're kind of desensitized
to it because you just used to seeing it, right,
especially if you're growing up in the hood and you've
seen that before. This is a little wing on stage
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at a show doing that, and some people say, oh,
he was just sleeping standing up at a concert. If
you're sleeping standing up, and I know baby was the one,
but it was him too. You've seen the video. If
that's the case, you need to stop for a second.
You need to pause for a minute and take care
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of yourself, because honestly, I hear the little wing we
like in this album, but the production is kind of
all over the place as far as the choices, the concepts,
the trying to reach back to the things that you
knew about him trying to flex features that make records
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that don't sound good, right, Like, Okay, you got Bono
on here, but it's not a good record. It's the
flex that you got him on here. I mean, the
first time he been on a rappers album. I don't
think so. But if so, who cares? It's not good Wayne.
So I don't think he's washed. I think he has
bigger issues. But I think the Wayne you know is
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still in there, because even on this album, there's times
where I'm hearing certain songs and I'm like, Okay, that's
the way I know. But it's just not sustained throughout
the album. It's mostly garbage. Okay, mostly garbage. So there
you have it. That's my review, but that's also my
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thoughts on liul Wayne in twenty twenty five? What do
you think about Lil Wayne? Did you check out the
car to six? Is it as fast as the internet saying?
Is everybody jumping on the bandwagon? I'll tell you like this,
I'll keep it the fuck with you. I don't have
no tickets to any bandwagons because I think that's corny.
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But I know what I hear, and other people know
what they hear. Also, so do with that? What you
with next? I swear Timberland is like he's another like
legend in the game, but he is annoying. He's like
really annoying. Now he's not quite love of annoying, he's not.
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But what he's been doing with this AI stuff is
very annoying to me, very annoying. Let's go to the headline.
This is on hip hop dx dot com and it
says Timberland announces he is working with an AI artists.
What does that contract look like, mister Timberland, It says
Timbaland has announced that he is now working with AI
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artists that aren't actually real well, of course whatever. The
iconic producer has launched Stage zero and AI focused entertainment company,
and comes as a result of him experimenting with the
AI programs on No, that's the one that that's kind
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of like the leader if you want to really do
some stuff with audio and especially video, Like I think
that's the one. I think they have a video component
where they be doing in baby joints whatever. Timbo has
revealed that the company has signed the first of an
AI artist, who is being called tie Time. Well, hold up,
hold up, hold up, hold up, how do you sign
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someone that's not real? How do you sign them? Now?
Now I ain't gonna I'm not gonna hold you, but
I'm thinking I don't like it as a music fan,
but I'm thinking, what if we enter a space? I
did a whole AI show for y'all, but here's a
little nothing tipate. What if we into a space? Right?
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Because this whole he signed an artist, but artists not really?
How did you sign them? Did they audition? Like? I
don't understand what are you talking about? But I kind
of feel like, let's say, if I go and I
create an artist, right, I say, I'm gonna give this
artist this name. I'm gonna describe them as this and
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get AI to make images of this person till I
get it exactly how I wanted, how I want that
artist to look. I'll describe that artist's style, you know,
everything about them, and then I start to curate songs
and lyrics for them. So not just putting in commands
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to say, make a storytelling record about bricks of coke
right now? That would be ill, but whatever, and I
kind of tweak. Let's say, if I'm tweaking AI to
kind of get what I want, and I'm using like
rich because you can even get AI to make beats
like you can just get AI to do all of it.
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And then I go to Timberland and say, here's my
package of this artist, Coke Sniff for number nine. That's
gonna be his name. I don't ask me what the
number nine mean, just back up, but I say, yo, Timberland,
Coke Sniff for number nine. Higgo his crack his wack record.
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You know what I'm saying, bars beween talking rap of
the records of a single. Let's get all of these
on here and here Timberland, would you think? And he says,
I want to sign your artists. Now, I don't know
if that means I get a creator's fee or some
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kind of compensation for creating the AI, or maybe a job,
because you're not signing me, you're signing this AI, and
maybe they take over the content that's produced with that bass.
It sounds crazy as hell, but I I feel like
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there's a generation coming up. I hope not. I hope
I'm wrong, a generation coming up that will entertain this
kind of nonsense and humans, human artists will be competing
with AI artists because let's just put it this way. Music,
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for the most part, like the way I listen if
it's an artist I've never heard of before, whether it's
a rap artist or a singer, And let's just say
enough people mention their name and I go listen, and
I like them, and I like it a lot, and
then somewhere down the line, I just discover that it's
an AI. It's tough to decide whether or not you
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should continue to listen to it because you like it. Now,
there are a lot most people need to relate to
their artists, and in some ways I do, but I
don't rely on it, and that would make I'm kind
of making a case for goddamn AI. Okay, but I'm
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just saying, if you wind up liking the record, what
do you do? You said always AI, I'm out here, Nah,
I might feel like, well, so what you know? I
like that record. It sounds dope. The beat sounds dope.
Music sounds dope. And I could see why Timberland thought
this was a good idea, because y'all remember back when
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he started playing around with the whole artificial intelligence thing
in music, and he was like, there's one artist I
never got the chance to work, but now with the
power of technology, I could work with it. And he
played it and the beat was kind of like I
was like, Okay, what's this, But then the rappings started
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and I was like, is that Biggie? And when I
say it was, and then for those who saw it,
it sounds like Biggie. It was taking breaths in spaces
that Big would take breaths. It was almost uncanny and
it sounded good, but it wasn't Big because the Notri's
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Big passed away in nineteen ninety seven. No one who
knew Big was around. For Big. A fan of Big,
nobody's going to like that because it's not coming from Big.
But what Timberland was able to do was kind of
impressive because the Big, let's just say Big, was still
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here or it was like, yo, we found the loss
track from early early Timberland and Biggie and he played that.
People would be all over it. But it just showed
me how much he's into it where he thinks I
could I could be the leader in this regard. And
I remember Timberland and you know, I want to say
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this and that we're gonna move on, but I remember
timbaland mentioning how he didn't always want to work with
well established artists, like for example, like a like a
Michael Jackson, because he felt like he wanted to create
It was better to create the future artist the newer artists.
And I was always cool with that, even though I
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kind of wanted to hear Mike over some Timberland. I
think that's what he's trying to do here as far
as leading to charge. I think he's trying to get
into something that is inevitable so that he can reap
the benefits early because he was there early when it
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pops off, reaped the benefits when it pops off. I
still don't like it. I still feel like what does
that do for a generation who a generation of singers
who haven't gotten to that point where they can get
that break eventually. And I'm talking about like a right
like everybody was a kid at some point. Like imagine
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like when you see them videos of her performing and
she's mad young, but she's playing the guitar and she
could sing and she just sounds good. What if you
have somebody like that who now has to not only
compete with AI, but maybe they have to pour their
own natural talents into an AI because that's the only interest.
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It's like in so many ways it could go wrong,
and in a lot of ways, I don't like Timberland
like being one of those bigger people in the music
industry to co sign it, because then it all it
takes is one and all it takes is for somebody
to make a stupid amount of money and then everybody
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start thinking about it. And I'll say this in party,
there is one person who I want to use AI
in the worst way. But the main reason, not the
main reason, by what I'm thinking and is why it
never happened, is because there may be some contractual things
regarding his likeness, meaning his voice, and that's Beanie Siegel.
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Don't think for one minute that people who stop making
albums don't owe albums to record labels. So if you're
gonna go do AI, maybe you might need permissions or
maybe putting that album out means job or not job.
I don't think job exists. Death jam or whoever needs
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to get a cut or needs to be in charge
of that, like you can't independently go and do it,
or for somebody like Beanie Siegel who was shot and
because of the complications of his situation lost his voice.
So now even now when he appears on records, is
just not the same. It's not Beanie Sigel to us.
But he can easily sample his voice before he was
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shot and write new rhymes. It'll still be beans right
in the rhyms. It'll just filter his rhyms through his
original voice, which is crazy. So I don't know, y'all. Well,
see what do you think you're down with AI? You
like some of the things Young Guru was saying too
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Timberland about doing this AI thing. Leave your comments of
the common section below. And lastly, Slick Rick is one
of my favorite hip hop artists of all time. He
was probably like an early influence as far as what
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I liked in hip hop, what I wanted to hear
in some ways, how I wanted to be right because
he was always fly with the jewelry and all that
with the clothes, and he was unique right, he was
had the London accent right, he's as he says, London,
Jamaican and America, and all those influences shine through. And
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I remember, you know, I was a kid. One of
the greatest adventures of Slick Wrick came out, which was
like eighty eight, so I was probably like eleven, and
you know, his stories were like grown stories, you know,
but I loved it because it was almost like he
made the stories for kids, but they had adult themes.
So if you're eleven, you like, what what's she do?
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Davy Crockett, what he DoD? What's happening in the TP?
You know what I'm saying, you wanted to know? And
Slick Rick was doing that. But also, you know, he
had other songs like Hey, Young World and Teenage Love,
just Dope Records and undeniable classic in hip hop history period.
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One of the greatest storytellers of all time, if not
all time. And I know a lot of people will
be like, well, his story is not better than what
now is so big and blah blah blah. But he is
the blueprint. That's what you're missing in He is the blueprint.
Rock Him's the blueprint. Koogie Wraps a blueprint, KRS One's
a blueprint. Big Daddy Kane is a blueprint ice Cube. Like,
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there's so many people who are the blueprint, the inspiration
for those to come along, and they're supposed to be better.
They're not supposed to be on par with the master.
They're supposed to evolve. So with slick Rick, I call
him the greatest storyteller of all time because when you
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drop an album that's all stories in eighty eight, which
was a packed year for classic hip hop albums, and
everybody say, your joint is a classic too, and it
was all stories. You can't beat that, right, and he
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went to prison. We ain't gonna get into that. You
can look it up, you can google it. And def
Jam dropped his second album, which was The Rulers Back
that had some joints on it. Definitely has some joints
on it, but it wasn't as good as The Great
Adventures to Slick Rick. But how can you be. Sometimes,
when you got this undeniable classic, you almost never going
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to meet those expectations. You have to do something different.
And then def Jam dropped his third album called Behind Bars,
which contained some songs he did before he was locked up,
but he had less of an imprint on it than
the first two albums, and it showed. It's clearly the
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weakest album in his catalog, which isn't that big because
he has four He has four albums only and in
nineteen ninety nine, he dropped the art of storytelling, which
for me was surprisingly dope for a dude who debuted
in nineteen eighty eight. Like it was really good, like
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really good, like a man think about everything that happened,
how many errors and this man was locked up? How
much he missed being locked up in ninety nine. But
that was the last album he did until twenty twenty
five with this new album, Victory and I'm not gonna
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even lie. I was a little afraid because of one.
I'm thinking, why has this slick Rick done an album?
Because he's definitely done features, And one that stands out
to me is the one I always say. I think
it's called the Auditorium. It's on most death aka Yes
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and Day, but on most depths album is static. And
I was like slick Ricks versus crazy, Like I ain't
talking about bar work and float the coke overseas, I
ain't talk about that. That's not all rap is okay,
it's not all coke bombs, But you got the storytelling.
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He didn't sound dated. It was socially conscious at the
same time as well. I was like, man, can I
get a Slickwork album? But we didn't since nineteen ninety nine.
So with this new deal with Mass Appeal that's spearheaded
by nas and this run of seven albums from seven icons,
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and like I said last week is Slick Rick, Mob, Deep,
Big L, Ghosts, Ray Dayla Soul, and Nasen Premier. This
is the first of those seven albums. I don't know
at what pace they're gonna drop. I don't think it's
week for week. I'm thinking it's I'm thinking it might
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be each month or every two weeks or whatever I'd
rather go for. Honestly, from a marketing standpoint, I think
they need to be closer to each other two or
three weeks, so slickwork has room to breathe and do
you know, interviews and drop videos and all that. But
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the album is out and for those who don't want
the context, they don't want to detailed review, they want
to know what is it? You like it or not?
I do not like it. M hmm. It's not worse
than Behind Bars. I still think that holds the crown
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for a Slickwrick's worst album. And it's saying something that
that's his worst album because he was in prison, right,
so that that's saying something. But this one's right behind it.
It's right behind it. And before I get into it
real quick, it's fifteen songs, fifteen tracks, which includes so
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it's closer to it might be closer to ten. I'm
not even gonna hold you. But it's only twenty seven minutes. Now.
Typically I will never complain about that. But to me,
then this is an EP, Ricky D. This is the EP.
This is not in today's times. This is an EP.
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This is not an album. That's where my disappointment started, Like,
oh boy, why is it so short? It's so short
because some of these songs are really short. And I mean,
I look and I'm like, is that song like a minute?
In fifteen seconds? Something is brewing because Westside Gun just
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did it with one of his EPs, where they're making
the songs even shorter. And I don't mind if it's
two minutes, two thirty right, three minutes tops, I don't
mind that. When you start talking about like one minute,
it's not a song. It's an incomplete project. Get out
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of here. The album doesn't have the features that I
thought were going to be on here. There was a
rumor about I guess somebody made it up. A rumor
about a song that was like story called Storytelling, and
it had like nads and mob deep and a whole
That song got on here. It's not there's a song
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with Nas on here and Nas gets busy on it,
and I think, unfortunately it stands out so much that
it reminded me of how not good this album is. Now,
let me tell you why I say it's not good.
I say that only because and for me personally, but
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I say that because it's clear if you watch the rollout,
they're saying this is a visual album, right, So it's
not just the album you stream, but there's also a
video version of the album that you can watch that's
executive produced by it Just Elbow. Now, the album has
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a heavy London theme per slick Rick, right, so not
only the influences that are in the music, even guest appearances.
But this is probably the first time on a slick
Rick album where he really embraced it. Not that he didn't,
but he really put up front England, you know what
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I'm saying. Because it wasn't like he was claiming Burrows
all crazy and we oh, I thought he was from
Queens like no, but this was the first time you
felt like the guy with the London accent is actually
talking about London and making music that's inspired by being
from there, and with that in mind, when you press
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play and you say what song is this? When you
hear the dance beat hit more than once, you'll be like,
is this a house record? Why is this on it?
And it's because some of it is, you know, Slick
Rick's personal tastes right, none wrong with that, but some
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of it is him trying to grab a vibe. And
it's not just the house music thing, because you know,
that's kind of everywhere, including America, and I think that's
why they thought it would work for this hip hop.
We don't want to we want to hear that. There's
other situations where they're beats that are kind of like
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you could have got better beats. You just could have
on some songs. But there are songs I like. And
it's very easy for me to tell you right now
what songs those are because I had to look at
him like, thank you. Finally, this is the slick work
I've been looking for. I like the song stress. There's
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a song called Angelic after that. I like that joint.
There's skits on him that you know, just kind of
sometimes I don't even know why. He's like, why you
saying this? Like what, Maybe I'm missing it? Maybe I'm
missing it, y'all. I like the song Landlord. Landlord is
probably quizzitsential slick Rick. It was a song that I
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was like, finally, there it is, even though I like
those other records, it was like, that's what I was
looking for. Doesn't sound dated. Slick Rick don't sound old either,
not at all. He in the pocket, it matches him.
Why isn't there more of this? I like the song
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Documents with Nas. Again, Nas kills that, and I think
I think that's it. There might be one more, But again,
the album is twenty seven minutes and these are not
enough of those songs happen. This is not one of
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the better albums of the year at all. It's not
one of the worst. It's just disappointing. Now I'm gonna
check out the visual album because again, maybe there's something
about seeing the film that's gonna make me understand a
little bit more of what I'm listening to. But you
shouldn't have to watch a film in order to like
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an album more. You just shouldn't. It should be conveyed
in the music to make you like the music, and
the movie is the bonus. That's how it should be.
So with that being said, I think when it comes
to slick work desography because regardless of what I'm saying
about this album, please understand, I'm not saying Slickrek is whack.
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He is one of the greatest of all time. He's
the greatest. He is the blueprint of storytelling in hip hop,
hands down. I don't care who's his age. You might
have been doing it. He made an album that was
all stories. How are you not the final boss when
you make an album in eighty eight and it's a
classic and it's all stories. So stop. But Great Adventures
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of Slick rec is still number one. Number two, I
would say, is the artist storytelling Number three? The rulers back,
number four Victory and number five behind Bars. And I
know there's those you guys who like the only ones
like behind Ball started cool. No it was not not
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to me, it wasn't. So there you have it. Have
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