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On this week's episode, Vegas review's JID's brand new album, "God Does Like Ugly." Salt-n-Pepa battle Universal Music Group for copyright. Kendrick and Drake do battle, again, but at the MTV VMAs! Let's talk about it! 

Vegas's (Stevan Smith) feature in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/06/arts/music/roy-hargrove-jazz-music.html

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up. On this week's episode of Hip Hop Now Podcast,
I reviewed the brand new album from Jad God does
Like Ugly, Salt and Pepper continue their battle with You
and g over Master Recordings, and Kendrick and Drake do
battle again, but this time for the MTV v m

(00:23):
A Awards. He a fan. Let's do it. Welcome to
your pop Now podcast. If you from the future, you
know what you do show as out of so disrespect

(00:45):
the leg hip hop is say to today, Let's get
right into the business. What up, y'all? I am your
host Vegas and this it's Hip Hop Now podcasting podcast
specifically designed to keep you caught up on all things
hip hop music and culture that happened throughout the week.
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(01:07):
Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts listening.
I appreciate you. I appreciate you for subscribing. I know
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(01:28):
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Hip Hop Now Pod. I appreciate the subscriptions to the podcast.
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(01:49):
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(02:13):
just say, hey man, I do all of that, but
sometimes I forget fam I forget you even on well,
first of all, I ain't at at you. But second
of all, one way to just stay connected to when
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(02:35):
into YouTube or on your phone, you'll get a notification
to say, yo, Vegas just dropped a new video. You
can check it out right then, and now you can
check it out when you have time. I'm gonna tell
you right now. I watch YouTube like television, and the
watch later the save thing. I do it for like
all the channels I subscribe. I just go through content

(02:57):
each day that I like and hit watch later, and
then when I'm in a gym or something else, or
at home. I'm just watching YouTube, like again, like television,
So do me that salad real quick. Just want to
shout out something I did this week. I was a
contributor in an article in The New York Times about

(03:20):
Roy Hargrove. If you don't know who that is, he's
a jazz musician, legendary musician if you ask me, you
know who unfortunately passed away a couple of years back.
But his imprint on the game of jazz, and not
just jazz but music in general has been felt across
hip hop, soul, R and B, jazz, all of it

(03:43):
all together. But I contributed to the article. It's called
five minutes to Make You Love Roy Hargrove, So definitely
check that out. It's a lot of other people there
who have some dope songs, and I, you know, told
them one of the songs, one song that I liked

(04:03):
from him. But there are a ton there to you know.
Once you read the article, you kind of get to
know who Roy Hargrove is and then go down the
rabbit hole of his performances, his albums, you know, his
documentary which I was able to see a couple of
years back in Manhattan. So it's pretty dope. So if

(04:26):
you want to check that out, if you want to read,
you want to read what I wrote. Also, the link
will be in the description of this episode, whether you're
listening in audio form or watching it as a video.
And big shout out to Marcus J. Moore, who I
interviewed on this channel when he dropped his book about Daylight.

(04:47):
So I know there was a little controversy, but they
had to be quiet after a while because it wasn't
what they were saying. I'm just saying it's real. But
I did an interview with him. This was his article
he asked me to contribute. I was honored to do so.
I've written before, but now I could say I've had

(05:08):
two hundred words in the New York Times, so boom.
But with that being said, big shout out to Hip
HOPDX dot com, All hip Hop dot Com, Double xt
Cel mag and a couple of places where I'm getting
some of these stories from Let's Get Ready to the
Business Show. Kendrick and Drake fans have been doing battle

(05:35):
still mostly Drake fans because they want to say see
he's not, see he is, and it's like he lost.
He lost, Okay, stop, he lost even him? What did
I miss? You missed a whole battle where Kendrick drug
you up and down the damn street for all of

(05:56):
us to see. And it lasted like two years, which
is crazy. Maybe it hasn't been two years, but damn sure.
Last of the year. I'm hoping Drake will stop bringing
it up. But unfortunately we're not done yet, right, We're not.
The MTV Video Music Awards is coming up. Yeah, I know,

(06:17):
I don't really watch awards shows, but I do like
to follow the nominations for hip hop well in general,
and you know who wins, you know some When it
comes to videos, I don't watch as much as I
used to back in the days. Like back in the days,
shout out to Ralph McDaniels and the Big Kid Rest

(06:39):
in peace, Rest in peace. The other dude too. I
can't remember his name, Ray he passed away recently. I
think his name was Ray a bad y'all. But that's
how I initially used to get my videos like Homegrown
New York Video Music Box, but obviously BT and MTV,

(07:03):
And then after a while I just stopped because videos
stopped being creative hip hop videos stop being creative to me,
and it just was all the same thing after a while, cars, chicks,
flashing lights, jewelry, you know, somebody grill being shown close
up in a pan and shot like, come on, man,

(07:23):
I'm tired. You know. Now, I will say that might
not That's not really the case now because there are
a few artists. There are a couple of artists who
make some really dope, fantastic videos, you know, all the time.
Drake makes some dope videos sometimes, you know what I'm saying,
Like the Hotline Bling video. It was simple, but it

(07:43):
was kind of dope the way it was done. It
was different. The Baby has a lot of dope videos.
I don't know about now, but I know when he
was hot hot he had that album Baby on Baby,
which is probably the only one I really like. All
his videos were entertaining. Took me back, you know. But

(08:04):
now I don't watch, man, I don't watch because half
the time I don't care unless I'm interested in seeing,
like maybe I like the song like not like Us
and I want to see the video, or like I
like the Nokia joint. I'm sorry. I know we're supposed
to hate Drake, but I like it, okay, and I

(08:24):
know he didn't really write I don't care man like
it's about a groove. Trust me. When it comes to
hip hop, him suing takes him out of it. I
don't care what he does. I don't care what he raps.
Suing over a battle is the weakest thing that's ever
happened in hip hop. Your hip hop carters have been revoked. Okay,

(08:46):
But the VMA's is coming up, and I'm trying to
see if I could find I guess not the nomination.
So I'm just gonna read a little bit. This is
over at hip hopdx dot com. Kendrick Lamar and Drake
set to go head to head at the MTV VMA's
Kendrick Lamar and Drake. Oh I just read that. While

(09:09):
they said Kendrick Lamar and Drake are set to go
head to head in a key category at the MTV
VMA Awards. Okay, what's that? The nominations for the awards
were announced, with Kendrick up for ten different wow, while
Drake has just one nomination. Damn, it has to be

(09:37):
no kid with some sexy songs for you almost entirely
shut out at the Awards. Well, we know who's gonna
win now. Drake and Kendrick will only do battle in
the category of Best Hip Hop. Kendrick is nominated for
Not Like Us, while Drake is up for Nokia. Let's see,

(10:00):
is anything else here worth reading that's not just stuff
the Yeah? So holo, holdo, there's something else so I believe. Also,
LLL qu J and Eminem are up for that same category.

(10:24):
For the song it was Murder Graham two or something
like that. That video was dope. I didn't like that
song when I first heard it, and when I saw
the video, I was like, Okay, the video just made
me like the song. So I think Not Like Us
it's going to win because it was just it was

(10:46):
like when the song dropped, perfect time in perfect video,
just perfect. Nokia is cool, but it's it's worth the nomination.
Put it that way. It's worth the nomination. But if

(11:06):
Not Like Us doesn't win, Murder Graham is the only
other video to me that was really good, like very like,
very creative. You know those three to me unless there's
another video I'm forgetting about and trust me, is not
any of you Boom back chains and finger gun at

(11:30):
the camera dudes, like we've seen y'all do that a
million times. Step your budget up. Okay, we on the block. Okay, congratulations, congratulations,
you grew up there. I'm saying these these three videos
I'm talking about, there's a little bit more creativity to them.
So I could see any one of them win it, well,

(11:51):
any one of the two winning. But I think it's
going to be not like us. I thought I had
a list of complete nominations here, but I guess that's
the main one that met for hip hop So next,
So Salt and Pepper have been going through it with
U and G. You and G got a lot of

(12:11):
smoke in the streets. First, you got this freaky. First
you got Drake suing UMG or trying to sue them
over now like us, which is nonsense. But Salt and
Pepper suing over their master recordings is another thing. To me,
that's a bigger thing, that's more important. This is also

(12:33):
from Hip Hop d X. I thought I turned that off.
Hold on, hold on, y'all, you know you gotta. My
sister calls it D and D. I just say, do
not disturb. Just put your do not disturb on, Okay, am,
I old because I don't say D and D I
don't know. You tell me barms. Salt and Pepper, slam

(12:55):
U and G as the pioneering wrap duo, sue the
record label for control over their master recordings. The female
MC's filed a lawsuit against the music Giant back in May,
in which they alleged UMG is violating federal copyright law
by denying them the copyright to their music after a

(13:16):
certain after a certain amount of time has elapsed. Oh
that's interesting. Let's see. This is what Salt said, and
I quote this is from Good Morning America. By the way,
when you're an artist in the beginning, you sign a
contract saying that the copyrights will revert back to you

(13:37):
after thirty five years. And we've done all the things
legally to get our copyrights back, but they're just refusing.
So we had to sue them. We didn't have that leverage,
we didn't have the knowledge, we didn't have that control
in the eighties, and so to be held to be

(13:58):
held to a contract from nineteen eighty five and forty
years later, it's like ridiculous. And this is what Pepper said.
They want to keep it. They want to hold on
to it, and they're trying to fight us, so obviously
they understand that's the worth of that. Okay, you can

(14:18):
read the rest on hip Hop dx dot com. But
we say it all the time. We've been saying it
since Q Tip of a Triical Quest said it back
in the days. Record company people are shady. They just are.

(14:38):
They're sharks. Not everybody, not everybody, but generally speaking, especially
when it comes to ownership and publishing and points and
things like that, it's almost designed to take advantage of
the artists. These two women are lucky to still be

(15:02):
walking the face of the earth. Five years ago. They
should have received I'm not saying I'm a lawyer, but
I'm just I'm gonna trust Salt and Pepper. Trust them.
They should have received their masters their copyright back. And
we know it's valuable because if you were around in

(15:25):
the nineties, like well, even in the eighties, right in
the eighties, Salt and Pepper was a popular hip hop group.
But in the nineties they became and this is not
even a shot at them as female MC's. We already
know Salt Pepper top ten when it comes to the ladies,
but in the nineties they blew up, it became more

(15:46):
of a pop group. You know, they still made hip hop,
but they were extremely popular beyond just being popular with
hip hop. So there are songs of theirs that you know,
I mean, you still see them in commercials like Shoot
and what a Man Like? Those songs just don't get old.

(16:10):
And unfortunately, like they said, a lot of artists do this.
They want to be on they see the pathway, they
get the budget to do some of the things they
want to do, but they don't have the ownership and
of their music that they create. And when you have
a situation when you have hits on a hip hop

(16:32):
level with the heads, and then you go on to
have pop hits, you know what I'm saying that never
get old that have impacted generations of people in different communities.
So when they hear it, it's their jam, no matter
how old they get. That's this money to be made

(16:56):
and they created this. So what do you think do
you think that artists today should just straight go for
independence by any means necessary. You know, last week we
talked about Joey Badass and his issue. He wanted to
drop an album last week and the record label saying

(17:19):
I think it was def Jam was like no, no,
no death Jam U and G saying I was like no, no, no,
you don't. You know you want to control your stuff.
You know you signed a deal. In Salt and Pepper's case,
they were very patient. They waited. Now it was time
for these ladies to have their copyright. Man, it just sucks.

(17:41):
So leave your comments in the comments section below about
that and the Video Music Awards, whether you think Kendrick's
gonna win Drake or maybe L L and M and
M and last so man, Like, I'm gonna just say this,

(18:03):
if you're a hip hop fan, we been eating good.
We have been eating good. Okay, if you don't know,
maybe a little bit more casual. If you don't know
what I'm referencing, maybe you're just a little bit more casual.
And there's nothing wrong with that. That is the point
of this show to introduce you, if you don't know,

(18:27):
into I mean, introduce you to artists and music and
concepts and stuff, but hip hop and hip hop culture.
And lately it feels like even though I had a
couple of dope albums in my best of the year
so far, lately we've been getting a streak of dope albums,

(18:48):
a couple of does, a couple of bumps in the
row were like, oh whoa, what was that? You know,
Slick break Out. I'm just joking. Come on, man, I
love Slick Ray, you know what I mean. Like, ever
since the Clips dropped and again we did a whole

(19:08):
show on this. Just check out the video Me and
the homie Ox shout out to about that album. But
it just represented the death of agism, even though Nas
kind of did that and he said it on the
Clips album. But the Clips l l like a couple

(19:29):
of a couple of people releasing dope stuff, Common and
Pete Rock right, Like, this just feels like this extension
of don't Sleep on the Old Heads. So when the
Clips dropped and the bars were pristine, the features were pristine,
Pharrell was in his pocket in his bag with that album,

(19:53):
it was almost like, man, it can't get no better
than this. And then Ray Kwan dropped and at first
I was kind of like, because I did a review,
I gave it my listens and I was like, yeah,
it's cool, you know it's cool. I went beyond those
three listens I like to do and found myself like

(20:16):
back to back clips ray Kwon, ray Quon clips clips
ray Kuon like just like that, and you know, it
just feels like there's there's something going on. With that
being said, I listened to the brand new album from Jid.

(20:39):
I believe his grandmother used to call him Jed a bug.
That's how you pronounce it Jid, but sometimes I saw
it as Ji d early On at least, but jig right,
That's what I'm going with. Okay released a brand new
album called God Does Like Ugly. It's about an hour
in length fifteen songs. Features include the clips on, a

(21:06):
song called Community, Nce Staples or a song called VCR
Skate feature in Sierra and Earth Gang Don Tolliver. What's
this guy's name? I always miss his name up? It
said six black or slack. Is that what it is?
I guess so tdd Dallas Sign and a couple of

(21:29):
other people in here. Past de Troy is on here.
I didn't even realize past that was Past de Troy, right,
So you know I do when it comes to these reviews.
Three listens. First listen is just to take in whatever
this album is presenting just listening. Second listen, it's more

(21:52):
so to like, all right, let's listen to these bars
and these features and these beats and concept and look
at the cover and if I could see what's being
presented within music. And the third listen is just to
confirm my thoughts and my thoughts for those who like,
I don't want you to explaining stuff what you think

(22:14):
that's one of the best of the year. It is.
It is one of the best of the year, and
it is probably gonna be in my top five at
least for now so far. Best of the year so far,
top five so far. A couple of things can drop
and just bounce it right out of there for me,
But right now, right now, it's right in there, and

(22:39):
I and what I like about it. It's not that
first of all, this dude could rap. He always could
rapt okay since the beginning, But this feels like he
found his pocket. Like this if this is what my
albums or this is what his album should sound like

(22:59):
going forward, not the same exact concept, but I think
he does a great balance of having bars, spit a
tight beats and records and features, you know, stuff that
you could dance to. Music that represents where he comes from,
right because I know at like for some people. Also,

(23:23):
Westside Gunn is on his album, but he's talking for
the most part. But I know for some people with
this album in particular, somewhere in the midway point, the
music in the vibe switches up, right, not on every song,
but it becomes very different than what you heard within

(23:46):
the last you know, four or five records, right, And
I know a lot of people pointed that out. And
I'm not even saying in a negative way, but for
some people, that's kind of like going off track, Like
oh man, yo, when it started, it was crazy, but
then you start doing this and that third I'll say this,

(24:06):
I don't care, you know why, because I didn't had
years of listening to outcasts, had banjos and harmonicas and
people beating on buckets and all kinds of other sounds
for hip hop, and I dug it because it was
coming from a from their culture in Atlanta. Right. It

(24:29):
may not be the signature sound or whatever the signature
sound is today, but it had the influences. Right. Just
like when you think of New York City and you
think of Boom Bap, it's almost like the boom Bap
is representative of it being so much concrete everywhere. You
know what I'm saying, so it made sense for those

(24:51):
who don't know. He's on j Cole's label Dreamville. I
will say this, production wise, this is great. I think
that's what I like about it. It's carrying the torch
from Clips right with that quality of the music right,

(25:13):
not the same exact production, but just attention to detail
when it came to the music alone, and then Jid
just showed up when it came to the bars. Now
I know, I said Clips, and that's all people care
about nowadays. Right. It's kind of like when Black Thought
did the freestyle and y'all realized that he existed because

(25:37):
some of y'all wasn't even talking about Black Thought and
he been spitting like that same thing with Clips. People
love the Clips so much now it's like if it's
a CLIPS features like where where, Well, I'll say this,
the song is crazy. It's called community. Jid got busy,
obviously pushing te got busy, but malice if he dropped

(26:03):
more like if they're on a NAS album and he
got another verse, that's crazy. He is not only the
sixth Man of the Year, the comeback man of the Year,
not the six Man. But you know what I mean,
the comeback Player of the Year, the MVP ain't even

(26:23):
won championship with his brother because that album is definitely
in my top five for the year, and it's not moving.
I don't care what come out. I don't care if
they'd be like, oh, big Pocket, they had a secret album.
It's crazy. I'm not moving the clips because it was
that good. But Malice verse on Hire is nuts. He

(26:46):
hasn't missed. He has not missed. You know what It's like,
Dudes are fighting outside. Let's just say, push the t
outside fighting and he outnumbered, and Malon's been in the
house all day watching cartoons and eating cereal, and he just, oh,

(27:07):
who fight my brother? And he just get up off
the couch, go outside, knock out the dudes, and go
right back to watching cartoons and eating Syria. That's how
he acting. He's just coming outside saying, here I go.
But nevertheless, man like again, the only thing that was

(27:29):
weird for me was the It's weird because I like it,
but it's also weird because like what we're doing. The
opening track you Ugly Right featuring Westside Gun. Westside Gun
is talking and he like yo, my lady ugly and
it's just like why are you here? Because there was

(27:52):
a better use for his voice, Like I kind of
wanted to you know, I'm looking at Canary's. I don't
know why I said that, but that's how he rhyn.
I just wanted to hear that. So the talking was
kind of like, oh, oh okay. But again, it doesn't

(28:12):
take away from this album. This album is an hour, right,
some people look at the track listing. You might be
like me and be like, dmn, it's you haven't but
it's only an hour and it sounds good. So now
I you know again, I'm about to be in the space.

(28:36):
I know Alfredo two dropped also, but there's a certain
energy level that Alfredo two, Rock Marcie and Premier don't have.
Like you can listen to those two albums together and
kind of vibe with that because it's more chill, mellow.

(28:56):
Even though I like the rock Marsy and Primo joint,
but this feels like a companion piece to the Clips album, right.
It feels like an extension of that quality, you know
when it comes to the bars and the beats. And
again same thing with Ray Kwan Man. I like that album,

(29:17):
so definitely Jigs God does like Ugly. It's one of
the best of the year. Man, have you heard it?
What do you think you like it? Do you like
to switch up like towards the second half of the album?
Do you like the final record that really kind of
brings everything together? Leave your comments in a comments section below.

(29:41):
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(30:08):
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