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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Coming up on this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast,
jay Z Music on the Way and it's supposedly going
to shake up the world.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Stove God is building.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Momentum where we finally get a follow up to his
debut and when did the streets equal hip hop? I'm
massive for friends, Let's leave. Welcome to hip Hop Now
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because I have.
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That.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Jay Z, reportedly from a number of hip hop sites,
is working on an album, which is something that if
you watch my preview of maybe the last two or
three years, I've said jay Z gonna drop an album.
Of course I was wrong the other two, but this
year I feel like I'm gonna be right because the
time feels right. But this is on hip Hop dx
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dot com, and so y'all know this is them jay Z.
He is reportedly set to drop music that will shake
the world. Let's get jay Z is reportedly getting set
to drop music that is going to shake people.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
The claims come from an unusual source in Cash Cobain,
who was speaking at Billboard Unfiltered Live. He said, and
I quote, I heard jay Z about to drop some
ish that's going to shake the world. That's what I heard.
That's going to shake the world.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Now, as a source, I don't even know who this
man is. Okay, but that's besides the point. That doesn't
mean he doesn't know because I've been speculating and I
don't really know. Shake the world is kind of interesting,
but let's just go with dropping the album first. Jay
Z definitely should drop an album if he's still active,
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because he has been, you know, circling in some ways.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
You see him with different underground cats, you see him
involved with the clip situation. There's enough happening from a
old school rapper standpoint for jay Z to feel like
it's time to come outside.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Let's not forget.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
NAS dropped six projects in like two and a half
years mostly, and when I say mostly, I mean like
probably five out of the six critically acclaimed to some point, right,
everybody likes something. For me, Magic two was kind of
a letdown, But when I went back, I'm like, it's
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just different. So I think he got six joints tho.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We grade.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Then you had the year of l L dropping with
a Q tip on the boards and who else and
Pete Rock, you know, and then you had other artists
you know, obviously Snoop keeps dropping, but then Buster, and
then you fast forward to this year and you got
the Clips are Back, and Ray Kwan dropped and Ghost dropped,
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and we got Mob Deep and Daylight and Big Al
to Come select Rick dropped. Right, you even had Grandpoo
with Drop. But trust me, don't go looking for it
if you don't want to be disappointed. But you also
had Kawame come back to the rap game and drop
There's just a I could keep going on and on
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old School before his time, during this time, after his
time dropping records, but I think the Clips momentum is
really crazy. And then we have a Naza premier album
that's supposed to drop this year, and we know how
like jay Z like to drop music around the time
NAS does. I know he sees it as the Titans
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are dropping music, but some people look at it like, hey,
you're trying to take attention away from NAS.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The battle happened years ago, y'all relaxed.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But the thing that's interesting to me more than anything
is the shape the World part. Now there's two things,
and one I'm more excited for it than the other.
One Shaped the World. Sometimes it might be what happened
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with like Missionary. I know a lot of mc MC's
a lot of fans didn't necessarily like Snooping Doctor Dre.
That was another comeback, but Snooping Doctor Dre's Missionary because
it just didn't. They thought they were gonna get doggy Style,
but you know, upgraded. I thought it was a great album,
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but I could see how some features made them feel like, nah,
this ain't it. And I feel like I still think
I think I said this in my review those collaborations
which weren't all bad, like with Jelly, I kind of
like that joint. It was just them making a statement
that they've elevated since then. You know, they're not gonna
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go back and rehash what they did. They're kind of
flexing where they are and their careers somewhat by the features.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And I feel like.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Jay Z could do that because he's kind of done
that where it's you know, it's more about you know,
I'm gonna do this record with this rock guy and
this country person, like I'm gonna get big names on
my album to make it seem like this big, bombastic,
you know album. But that doesn't always equal great music.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It just doesn't. Some collaborations don't mix. Others feel forced.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Sometimes you get magic depending on what it is, but
it's not something that hip hop hip hop heads will
get excited for. And that's who's running things right now.
It's about lyrics and bars. We won't talk about that
a little bit later where that's kind of back right
because another motivation motivation for jay Z was probably that
battle between Kendrick and Drake where it really came down
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to some lyricism and being clever, which leads me to
the other thing I think we could get from jay
Z that I really want.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Someone said this, I think it was.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think it might have been like Alchemists, and yeah,
I think it was Alchemist, and Freddy Gibbs said that
jay Z had been listening to Alfredo too and was
digging in, and I think Alchemist says jay Z's really
tapped into the underground.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Alchemist works with a number of dudes, from Griseldacats to
Boldie James to obviously Freddy Gibbs. I feel like that's
the jay Z I want to hear from, because when's
the last time you heard a jay Z album that
reminded you of when he was picking beats for Reasonable
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Doubt or even The Blueprint, you know, or American Gangster
right where it felt like it's hip hop. You know,
it's not like, you know, let's just show off how
rich we are and how many rich friends we have.
So I feel like jay Z's kind of do for
one of those, even though four forty four with No
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Id kind of gave you some of that vibe. But
I know some people didn't like that, and it was
it was a concept album also if you didn't know,
it's basically apologizing to his wife, right.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But I just wonder what is.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Going to be And when you say shake people and
shake the world, I think that has a lot more
to do with what he may choose to say, right,
Because there's the Diddy situation. They kept trying to push
jay Z right into that situation. There's the lawyer that
was going at him, trying to get money out of him. Right,
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there's a state of hip hop at this point. What
does j have to say about hip hop? There's the
current president? Will he have some bars for him? So
I think what's great about this is jay Z will
have a lot to say because there's nothing worse than,
you know, God taking this long to come out and
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just talk about the same things he's always talked about.
I don't mind jay Z talking about how rich he
is because that's where he started, that's where he's always been.
That's that's a part of his brand to flaunt his wealth.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But if we can get.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Fifty boom back, and I mean really boom back, I'll
be with that.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So what do you think?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Are you anticipating the new jay Z album? You have
any idea what you want from jay Z? Leave your
comments in a common section below. Next the same, everybody
talk about stove God cooks and I love it. I
love it The clips putting Stove God on their latest
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album like God sort them out on the track Fiico,
that's who stove God is for those who didn't know,
He's the one doing the hook right. Fetti's so strong
you gotta bag it with when eye closed inside out.
Everybody loving stove God, But Stove God been around for
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a minute, at least in his current form. As twenty twenty,
with his debut album produced by Rock Marciano, I was
gonna say break Lights, that's not the name of it.
Reasonable draft is the name of it, right, And ever
since then, we've been looking for a new Since twenty twenty,
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we've been looking for a new Stove God, and all
we've gotten is he's got signed to Griselda, He's done
a ton of hooks, he's done a.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Verse here and there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
He released the project stop calling Me I'm Cooking That
was quickly taken down, but also still sent to people
so a lot of us have it. He does this
hook on a Clips album. Everybody's talking about Stove God
endorsing him. On Jadakisson Fat Joe's podcast, they play part
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of a song that was on that EP he dropped
I guess that was a year or two ago, called
Marvin Yay and the Internet it's like, yo, this song
is crazy when the album coming.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
But the problem with that and we hope it gets solved.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We hope jay Z works the magic he did with
the Clips and known to have done with others do
the same thing with Stove God in some way, because
he can't really drop an album, and that's why he
hasn't dropped an album, and that's why that project that
everybody's kind of discovering now was pulled down and never
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and then never saw the.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Apple Music's in the Spotify's. It was never on there, right,
It was.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Hand in hand, which was appropriate for Stole God, but
it was so crazy that it was like, you know,
everybody need to hear this, And now that everybody got
a snippet of it, and all these endorsements from Rhapsody
and all of that are just coming out the woodworks.
We need an album from the man like we need one,
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and I'm pretty sure he's so he probably sitting on
some heat so thirsty to drop it, but can't now.
From what I understand, there was I guess he was
signed to Rock Marcy or something like that, and they
had a situation and split. And there was another project
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that was leaked not too long after Reasonable Drought that
I think was leaked purposely. But every time Stove God
has tried to come out in some ways, and I
think Westside Gunners did an excellent job of When he
puts him on his album, it's just like you know,
a verse head a hook dad. You know, it's never
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a full on song or the hook is so long
it might as well be a verse. But I'm hoping
we get an album because this is this is the
worst thing that could happen for not only him, who
has momentum right now, but also just hip hop in general.
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That we in twenty twenty five were still getting dope
music shelved or blocked because of business, and most of
the time it's not even just because of business. It's
usually personal and they're using the business to do things
to one another, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So I don't know, man. Stove God said this, and
he said this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
That you can expect an album from him in twenty
twenty five. If that happens, twenty twenty five could potentially
be a stellar year considering all of the great music
that started to drop, and it just keeps on going,
especially if you get Jay and It's dope and Nas
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and the Mob Deep turns out to be good. Like
if you get all these albums being good. Jid's album
was crazy, like shout out to Lupe Fiasco. He did
like a Samurai DX. I guess it's supposed to be
a deluxe, but it was like a reworking of a
lot of songs from his album from last year, Samurai,
and it's fantastic, Like I love it. I don't know
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if I like it more than the original. I might,
but it's great. But again, it's a lot of dope music.
And then we finally get a Stove God album. I'm
not gonna know what to do with myself. I'm really not,
So tell me what you think about Stove Guide. You
like them, you don't anticipate in the album. Do you
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have that album that was released or that it was
an EP that was released not that long ago. Leave
your comments in a comment section below. I do check
comments lastly. So there's certain things with this podcast that
I almost refuse to do just because, not only because
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everybody's checking it out or doing these things themselves, and
I'm trying to, you know, separate myself from other hip
hop creators or whatever content creators. But every now and
again I made jump in the fray and talk about,
you know, what's going on. But there was one thing
I was kind of ignoring until I couldn't really ignore
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it that much, and that was young Thug right, because
I didn't really care about the snitching not snitching, blah
blah blah. This is hip pop music and culture. Jail
time and street stuff don't really have anything to do
with it, so I thought. So these tapes are out
of him giving his opinion on Kendrick and why Kendrick
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won't be better than Drake and how and really like
looking at hip hop as a monetization tool and saying
what Kendrick is doing by not collaborating is messing up
the hip hop game and not good for hip hop.
And then he kind of goes on to say, like,
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you know, start referencing referencing the streets in regards to
hip hop, and it was almost as if and it
wasn't just him, but it was almost as if the
streets equaled hip hop. And I kept of course, I
got a call at this time, which is terrible, but
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I kept thinking to myself, that's crazy because on the
one hand, some people may say to themselves hip hop
comes from the streets, but that's not what they mean.
They're talking about streets like criminals, right, illegal activity and
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taking that and trying to you know, messa it with
the culture of hip hop, Like if you're not doing
this thing in hip hop that generates money and you're
focused on art and bars, you're not feeding the streets.
And I kept thinking, well, maybe streets is just a
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metaphor for the culture, right, Maybe that's all he's saying
and I'm misunderstanding. But then I kept seeing a bunch
of people who were saying the same thing, and maybe
that's what he meant. But what I saw from others
it sound like, nah, this is this is about the
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streets and the music. And with that, it made me
think about when the Locks used to say, like they
don't play y'all in jail, and I kept thinking to myself,
so like, like in hip hop, I would like to
think most artists are trying to impress hip hop fans.
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Hip hop fans are everywhere, in jail, out of jail,
working at McDonald's, working at Wells Fargo, whatever. Hip hop
fans are everybody. Hip hop fans are street dudes, nerds, athletes,
you know, influences like hip hop fans could be anybody.
So this notion that it has to be for the streets,
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or you have to be street, or you can't or
you're not really doing hip hop, it's so stupid, like
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And it would take a person in Young Doug.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Who clearly is not really about being dope on the mic,
to try to define what hip hop is. And I
know he would love to say that's what it is
today though. That's the record business. That's not even genre specific.
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The record business is to make money at the end
of the day, whether you're making a little bit of
money or a ton of money. Some of you dudes
in the rap game have decided that it's more important
to make money than it is to make art. And
I'm not trying to defend him. But he's an example, right,
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Kendrick is an example of both. I can make the
money with the art. That's the blueprint. The street's gonna
take it or leave it. But this is what's weird
about the statement. Also, we saw the pop Out concert.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The stage looked like the streets and if you like,
nah no, they well you not from the hood.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You can't be because you usually don't see that on
stage unless you're in a smaller club. And somebody brought
everybody from the projects to be on stage with him.
So it just seemed where to hear him say that
and to hear people kind of co sign that and
refer to hip hop as the streets, But also the
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streets they're referring to is not really about beats and
bars and artistry and making dope albums. It was like
the definition was changing forever for whatever he wanted it
to be. Right, I need to make this money, man,
let me get that feature being you know, selfish with
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your shan.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
All. You're trying to do hip hop. You messing up
the game.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Messing up the game because he's trying to do hip
hop versus trying to essentially exploit hip hop in a
way that the industry has done for years and then
turn around like it was just weird and a lot
of ways. I don't like to talk about, not that part,
but you know, oh he was snitching and blah blah
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blah and you know the elite phone, like the rumor
mil Only if it involves hip hop music and culture
will I feel the need to discuss it unless I
find it extremely funny, because that's what happens sometimes.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So I thought it was crazy for.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Young Thug to kind of try to make this statement
about the music, about hip hop music, about hip hop
culture and really act as if it was really about
the streets and not necessarily the essence.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Of what it is he does and others do. So
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Do you like the idea that people are blearn the
line between criminal activities in the streets and music that's
hip hop and feeling like the streets is what it
is now and not that boom back stuff. Leave your
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