September 7, 2025 • 44 mins
My co-host is Carol Ann Kates. Lets call her a food expert - Nationally award winning cookbook "Secret Recipes from the corner store". A lifetime of grocery store experience, has the book "Grocery shopping secrets, Reduce Your Food Budget with Grocery-Insider Wisdom". And an excellent weekly blog, definitely check Carol out at https://www.carolannkates.com/
National Star Trek day. Entertainment from 2022. Michelangel unveiled his statue of David, Scoth Tape invented, 1st recorded Beastiality in North America. Todays birthdays - Jimmie Rogers, Frank Cady, Sid Caesar, Peter Sellers, Patsy Cline, Benjamin Orr, Aimee Mann, David Arquette, Martin Feeman, Pink.. Queen Elizabeth 2 died.
Intro - God did good - Dianna Corcoran https://www.diannacorcoran.com/
Star Trek TV theme
You are not alone - Michael Jackson
Someone else's star - Bryan White
Birthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/
Waltzing Matilda - Jimmie rogers
Grease movie sound track
Crazy - Patsy Cline
Just what I needed - The Cars
Voices carry - Til Tuesday
Raise your glass - Pink
Exit - Love to try them on - Shane Owens https://www.opry.com/artists/shane-owens
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National Star Trek day. Entertainment from 2022. Michelangel unveiled his statue of David, Scoth Tape invented, 1st recorded Beastiality in North America. Todays birthdays - Jimmie Rogers, Frank Cady, Sid Caesar, Peter Sellers, Patsy Cline, Benjamin Orr, Aimee Mann, David Arquette, Martin Feeman, Pink.. Queen Elizabeth 2 died.
Intro - God did good - Dianna Corcoran https://www.diannacorcoran.com/
Star Trek TV theme
You are not alone - Michael Jackson
Someone else's star - Bryan White
Birthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/
Waltzing Matilda - Jimmie rogers
Grease movie sound track
Crazy - Patsy Cline
Just what I needed - The Cars
Voices carry - Til Tuesday
Raise your glass - Pink
Exit - Love to try them on - Shane Owens https://www.opry.com/artists/shane-owens
countryundergroundradio.com
History and Factoids webpage
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay do.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hi everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I am Jeff and welcome to history. In fact, it's
about today. Today is September the eighth. Today is all
about food, from buying it to storing it, to cooking it.
I had to bring in a real special guest, an expert. Today.
She is going to help with us. Now. She grew
up in the grocery store business. She has written a
really award winning cookbook and a book about a grocery
store secrets that everybody should know. Carolyn, why don't you
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go ahead introduce yourself today.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, I am a former grocery store owner and deli operator.
My family had Steels Markets for sixty one years in
Fort Collins, Colorado. We closed in two thousand and one.
We had a rather chaotic, ugly ending. I thought our
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ending would make a great memoir, a great story, so
I started writing it. I drove my husband crazy. He said,
you have all these wonderful recipes, why don't you do
a cookbook. My favorite thing to do at the stores,
My favorite responsibility was to create recipes for our ad.
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So if we had pork chops in the ad, I
would do a pork chop recipe to give our customers
creative ways to use what we had on sale. So
I wrote a cookbook as a tribute to my family.
It has a history of the store. It has some
old ads to set myself apart. I included how to
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select and store perishables. I'm really proud of that cookbook.
It was picked in the top ten favorite by the
Denver Post Food staff. It's won three National war Words.
I believe I am the only award winning cookbook author
that used to own grocery stores. I didn't much care
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for social media. I started doing social media during COVID.
I had a young man helping me named Bobby Crue.
I really did it to get myself positioned online for
my memoir to come out, and Bobby asked me to
do a blog on saving money at the grocery store.
That's when food inflation got so bad. I think twenty
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twenty one it was up eight point six percent, and
in twenty twenty two it was up. Food inflation peaked
at thirteen percent. So Bobby Crue writes whoror and like snakes,
we have nothing in common. But he suggested I do
a blog on that. So I pulled my grocery shopping
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information out of my cookbook and spent a year and
a half expanding it to create grocery shopping secrets to
give people some tips on how to save money on
their groceries.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And that I mean it's gone down a little in
but everybody can always save money on grocery. That always
helps out a lot on the old family budget. Yes,
so when you're cook but I mean it's varied.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Andy.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You guys love just peris and through it you'll love it.
Do you have any specific type of food do you
like like? Do you like work jobs? Do you like
Italian food, Oriental food, Mexican food? Do you have any
favorite My favorite.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Foods are Italian, Mexican and French. My family's favorite recipe
in my cookbook is chicken enchiladas with atomatilla sauce.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My uncle Eddie was a butcher at the First Steals.
He eventually had his own store in Denver. I don't
know how many people know Tony's in Denver. It's a
specialty food store. But Tony worked for my uncle Eddie.
I have Uncle Eddie's primary recipe in my cookbook.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You have a lot of good recipes in there.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Too, Yeah, which food comes out, the prim rim comes
out tender, juicy, and medium rare every time.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well that's that kind of makes your mouth water here.
And it's not even primary time. It's a primary. But
I think most people think of the round like Christmas,
holidays or something like that. But it pays good year round,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Prime rab is good year round, but usually especially anymore,
it's getting so expensive we usually only have it for holidays, right.
I did hear Stu Leonard on the Business Channel. He
owns grocery stores in Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey,
and he said that one reason beef is so expensive
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is that beef herds are at the lowest levels they've
been in fifty years.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh well, I guess that kind of makes sense. That's
kind of what we went through with eggs here last year.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, eggs got pretty expensive. I do have in my
Grocery Shopping Secrets book how to freeze everything, even eggs.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You can freeze eggs.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, you can freeze eggs. So for example, if you're
making a recipe where you only use the yolks or
you only use the whites, you can freeze what is left.
And my book has tips on that freezing milk. When
you saw milk, it's going to have a different consistency.
So you can't put it in your coffee or drink it,
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but you can put it in smoothies or use it
for baking or cooking. Oh so I've got a lot
of tips like that which can really help you cut
down on your waist.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, I'm glad you're here today. Now we know neither
of us are nerds, right, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I maybe was in school. I don't think I am anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, well, revert back to school. We're going to celebrate
today on this These.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. It's five year
mission to explore strange new worlds. The seacounts new life
and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has
gone before.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Today is National Star Trek Day. I know that's not nice.
There are a lot of people who really get into
Star Trek. First episode of Star Trek air today in
nineteen sixty six. Now it was produced by Lici O.
Ball Yeah, her Desilute production company, but no one watched
it and it was only on the air for three years.
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For some reason. After the show was over, Yeah, people
started watching the reruns. So many people started watching those
reruns that they actually held the first Star Trek convention
in nineteen seventy two. Now Star Trek, of course, is
a multi billion dollar franchise, TV shows, movies, lots and
lots of merchandise. So my tricky friends, whether you dress
up or just binge, watched Star Trek, just enjoy the
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nice Star Trek day. You ever watched Star Trek?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I was trying to remember back if I watched it
in the sixties, and I did not, Well, then I
think there are like nine are there like nine series
TV series now or something?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Probably nine movies. Yeah, there's at least three TV series
and probably about nine movies. I think so. But like
you weren't alone. Nobody watched it in the sixties.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I can't believe Lucille Ball produced it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's amazing, I know, since she had the only one
who had the foresight to say, you know what, this
could actually work. Of course, DESI probably wouldn't have done it,
but Lucy did. All right, let's se what happened in
the entertainment to day on September the eighth. It's about
your nineteen ninety five. The Dangerous Minds movie soundtrack was
the number one album. Michael Jackson had the number one
song with You Are Not Alone.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
You The Fay Call You.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Brian Wyatt had the number one country song with someone
Else's Star, She's like someone.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Else caps getting one? I wish you? Why can't he
be Loney? Has those other people loved? Sound must be
on someone else's stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The number one book was from Pottersfield by Patricia Cornwall.
Top movie was Too Long Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie
Newmar Now three drag queens. They're driving across the country
when they're our breaks down, they're stuck in a small town.
Stars Patrick Swayze, Leslie Snipes and John Leguizanam. Now this
has nothing to do with Chinese food. Is about drag wings.
But what's your favorite Chinese food recipe?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Cow chicken?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Okay, of a lot of heat to it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You can make it either hot or not so hot.
I like it hot.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So your tips on the grocery store? What is one
tip you think every no grocery store owner wants, but
everybody should know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well. I think one thing is when you go to
the meat counter and you find the marinated or rubbed
meats that are convenience. Usually those are foods that are
just getting ready to pass their expiration date. We marinate
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them or put a rub on them and raise the price.
We call that value added. So I'm not saying are
not good, but if you buy those, you should eat
them that day.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So if I wanted, if I'm just out of the blue,
I'm just going to the grocery store, going to pick
up what's the biggest tip I can get for getting
the best piece of meat.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It should have marbling, the more marbling it has, the
more tender and juicy it's going to be marbling. Or
the little white flex of fat that are in the
meat that are in beef pork will also have it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Does color indicate any kind of Does the color of
the meat give any indication and what kind of whether
it's how good it is or fresh or anything.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yes, when meat starts to pass its prime or it
starts to deteriorate, it'll get brown, brown blotches. A lot
of times. You'll see that meat on sale a lot
of times. Your supermarket, if it has meat on sale,
it will be a lower grade like Select. So if
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you're buying meat on sale, you should be sure and
check the grade. Beef is graded prime, Choice, select, and
no role. So the select and no role are going
to be cheaper and they're going to be tougher with
less flavor. So if you're buying meat on sale, make
sure you're getting at least a select or at least
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a choice or a prime and not a select.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well prime, you talked about prim only like two percent
of all meats prime, right.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, and prime rib is not necessarily prime. It can
be choice. And actually sometimes I prefer my tender lines
and prime rib is choice rather than prime because they
can get mushy.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And if you go to the store and ask for
prime rib, they're just going to give you a ribi roast.
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, let's say you don't have to spend that extra
money for that little two percent of prime that they're great?
No ah, right, well that's really helpful. And then as
pork pretty a standard with that or is pork have
different I don't know what you call it, like germ
concerns or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think the thing that I look for mostly in
pork is it's often injected with a saline solution. If
it says if the label you can you can tell
on the label if it is injected, because it will
contain things other than pork. So when you're buying pork,
you want to be sure you're just getting pork. It
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costs enough without paying for salt water chicken. I don't
think so, not that I'm aware of. With chicken, I
like to buy redbird chicken chicken. You know, some people
are really picky it has to be free range fed
a certain way. I'm not that picky about it. My
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son will only buy free range chickens. So those are
things to look for. The thing that's important to me
is if I'm going to seer or grill my chicken,
I want to buy chicken that's chilled with a cold
cold air process and not a water process. Chicken, when
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it's processed after it's slaughtered, it's either run through cold
air to bring it to temperature, or it's run through
cold water. And so if it's run through cold water,
often it will absorb some of that water. So if
you want to grill or sere your chicken, you're better
to get air chilled chicken.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Do is that even on the label you have no idea?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, it'll be on the label. It's required to be
on the label, okay if it's chilled.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And I think labels, let's be honest, most people don't
really pay that much attention to the labels. They might
just look a little bit and then they kind of like, Okay,
that looks good. I don't think a lot of people
really give a lot of credit. And the labels are
actually pretty informative.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
The labels are very informative. I have a chapter in
my book that in my Grocery Shopping Secrets book that
discusses understanding food labels. Yes it can, get it can.
A lot of people don't pay attention, although the people
that pay attention are quite concerned.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Brain they're the educated buyer and actually the champions when
they want to make sure that they're not getting cheated.
Yeah right, we'll see. That's a good say. We're pushing
your book pretty good. A lot of people are going
to tune in just to get that label part. All right,
let's see what happened in the world On September eight,
over the years fifteen oh four, in Florence, Michaelangelo his
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sculpture of David. It was unveiled. Now it stands fourteen
feet high, weighs six tons. It was made from one
block of granted. Now other artists and sculptures that already
rejected that one block, well he took it. They said
it was fine. He said, no, it's good now, David.
It's basically when he slaved Goliath. Seeing Michaelangelo, he was
paid to make that sculpture for the Florence Cathedral. But
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now that was un It was actually more magnificent than
they even thought he was going to do. It was
so good. But they only had one problem. There was
no way they could move that six to ten statue
all the way across town over to the cathedral. So
what they did is they slid it across the straits,
set it up in the town square, the Piazza de Signal,
and they called it good. So michael Angelo, when he
scoped to David, he depicted David right before he fought Goliath.
He wanted people to feel David's pent up sense of
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energy before the fight. You like that kind of art.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, Actually, we were in the Vatican and saw the
ceiling that he painted. He's pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, he was an amazing dude. Fifteen sixty five, the
first permanent settlement in the United States. Well when in
the United States yet, But North America took place. Yeah,
the Spanish they found in Saint Augustine, Florida.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
All right.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In the Bible Book of Leviticus, it says that a
man shall lie with the beast, he shall be put
to death, and the bees shall be slaid. All the
pilgrims of the Plymouth Colony and they took that very seriously.
Sixteen forty to the first confirmed active beast reality in
North America happened a pilgrim teenage and named Thomas Granger.
He admitted to having sexual relations with a horse, a cow,
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two goats, a number of sheep, two calves in a turkey.
So they made Thomas watts as they killed all the
animals that he had as relations with. Then they burned
their bodies. Yeah, then they hung them. How would you
like to go down in history for that? And they
even got your name and everything. That'd be horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's quite a story.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Oh, do you remember seeing the Pledge of Allegiance when
you were growing up?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yes, we said it every day in school before school
started the United States. In eighteen ninety two, the United
States Pledge of Allegiance was published and the Youth Companion.
It was written by Frank Bellamy, who was a very
religious man, but he did not include the phrase under
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God in the pledge that was added by Congress in
nineteen fifty four. The Great Galveston Hurricane hit in nineteen hundred.
It is the deadliest hurricane in US history. Galveston, Texas
was pretty much destroyed, killing between eight thousand and twelve
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thousand people. When they rebuilt the city, they added a
seawall and raised most of the city up by about
sixteen feet. The second deadliest hurricane to hit the US
was in eighteen twenty eight the Okee the Okee Choby
hurricane hit Florida, killing twenty five hundred people. In nineteen
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twenty three, the US Navy lost ships during peacetime. This
was called the Honda Point disaster. Honda Point is off
the coast of California near San Bernardino. Fourteen US Navy
destroyers were performing war exercises. They were sailing from San
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Francisco to San Diego at nine pm in heavy fog,
traveling twenty knots or thirty six miles per hour. The
ships were supposed to make a U turn into Sand's
Bernardino Channel. Because of heavy fog, they missed it. Seven
of the destroyers crashed into the rocks and sank. Two
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others hit the rocky shoreline but didn't sink. In total,
twenty three sailors died. It could have been much worse.
And in nineteen thirty on this day. This is my favorite.
Richard Drew invented scotch tape.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Then that was a good guy when he made a
lot of our lives easier.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yes, and the sea. How scotch tape has evolved, gorilla tape,
duct tape.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh man, there's just lots of Now it's like three
good stuff. Now when on your cookbook, let's go back
to talking about that one. Thinking about it, you do
a lot of fresh items in there. I mean you
use a lot of like fresh vegetables and stuff like that.
We talked about meat. How can you pick out the
best like fruits and vegetables that are fresh.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
My Grocery Shopping Secrets book and my cookbook have tips
on picking out fresh food. Every food is different. Let's
just take califup flower for example. I was shopping at Kings,
which is a Kroger, and I wanted cauliflower, and the
cauliflower had brown spots on it. That means it's starting
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to decay. I asked the produce clerk, don't you have
any cauliflower that doesn't have brown spots? And she told
me these just came in. It's all we have. So
sometimes you don't have a lot of choice with what
you're buying. My dad used to tell me, garbage in,
garbage out. Every day your supermarket will sell some food
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that can be classified as garbage. So with that particular cauliflower,
I had to go ahead and buy it if I
wanted cauliflower, and I just cut the brown parts out.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So is there an industry standard on what they have
to do for dates said, like when the meat and
started turning brown and they mark it down, is there
a standard where they have to like start marking it down.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I have never seen although they put the meat on sale,
I have never seen produce sold on sale. That's going bad.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's that's going bad, that's just step to the store.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I have never seen a store do that. I
don't think I have ever seen it. I do I
will see them put meat on sale, dairy on sale
fish on sale, but I don't think they do with produce.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Okay, And then is this was this guy full of it?
Or is he telling me the truth one time? I
was not until longer and I go at the beginning
of summer, the first load of watermelons came in and
this guy was sitting there kind of like antificating to
everybody there like he knew watermelons. He said that you
wanted to be the most yellow on the belly because
when a watermelon is cut, it stops ripening, and so
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it won't get any more right than what it already
is when it's cut.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I think you do you want? Yes? I think he's right,
and you want a watermelon it has a flat belly.
My dad taught me to thump it with my finger,
my third finger, so you just give it a thump.
And if it sounds hollow, it's ripe. And also if
you press on the stem end, you want that to
be soft.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So big thump and soft stem in. That's the whiz. Yes,
that worked for all melons or just watermelons.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Melons you want to feel heavy for their size, so
like candelope, you want it to feel heavy for your size.
If you smell the stem end and it smells like
a canalope. It's ripe, and you also want around the
stem end for it to be soft.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Cool deal, let's talk a little bit about World War Two.
Nineteen forty one, Germany, they started the caason liningrad at seas,
lasted nine hundred days. Over eight hundred thousand civilians died
before it was over. Now, in nineteen forty three, Italy
they suridered done. Conditionally, they were done fighting. They weren't
going to do it anymore. They told the United States
Britain brand, whatever we're done. There's only one problem though,
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there were so many German soldiers in Italy at that time. Well,
they didn't surrender, so fighting just kept on going. Nineteen
seventy four are US President Jerald Ford. He pardoned Richard
Nixon of any crime that he might have committed there,
but he didn't pardon the other one hundred thousand people
that were helping him out. In twenty sixteen, it was
revealed that there are actually four species of drafts, not
just one. We talked about. Your family owned the steels
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market up there. Anybody who's been in northern Colorado, they
definitely know steals It was so fun. But can any
independent now with Kroger and Walmart and all these costco
sask can an independent grocery store even make it anymore?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
There are some independence that are still around. There are
some larger independence like LUNs and bayer Ley's, Wegman's back East.
It's pretty tough a lot of competition. I think you
need to be in a smaller community, a smaller town.
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My brother's kids having it independent store, and I want.
There's just been an independent store that opened in Johnstown.
It's called Woods there from another state.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Is it just the purchasing power they don't have the
hard po The hard part.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is a purchasing power. Yeah. If this is an okay time,
I'll just tell you what happened to Steele's. What made
it hard for Steeles to survive. We opened a new
store on the corner of Drake and Shields. It was
close to Drake and Shields in nineteen ninety eight. In December,
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two months after we opened it, the city closed the
road in front of it. We were doing three hundred
and ninety thousand a week, which was on target with projections.
We dropped down to one hundred and ninety thousand a week.
Our customers couldn't get there. The road was closed for months.
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The day the road opened, our supplier tried to take
us over. They sent somebody in that I called Jack
the Ripper. He said, give us a million dollars or
give us your keys today. We never could make a
deal with them. Every time they would make an offer,
they would call the CEO and he would rescind it
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and they would come back with the worst offer. So
by midnight that night we hadn't made a deal and
they flew back to their headquarters. We ended up suing
them in federal court and won because they had recal violations,
but it cost us a million dollars we filed for
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We had to sell one of our buildings and lease
it back in order to pay our legal fees. So,
you know, things that go wrong when you're an independent
can take you down.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Well, yeah, you can't. You know, anybody else absorb in it.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, we had our plan, our reorganization plan approved in
August and then super Walmart opened on the corner of
le May and Mulberry. When a new store opens, customers
usually want to go there just to see what it's like,
and it takes at least three months to pre your
sales to return to normal. But our creditors wouldn't give
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us the opportunity to wait, so we had to we
had to file for chapter seven. So when those things happen,
when you have something go wrong and you're little, it's
really hard. I've often wondered how the small store survived
during COVID. That had to just be really difficult.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, well, luckily, like you just said, some of them
did hope we'll still be able to make a run
for it. Yeah, that people don't really think it's something
like closing the street. I mean what it's like, Oh,
you got to be joking me, and that's like, that's
just not even fair.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, no, and we were totally unaware of it that
it would was even a possibility.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
You would have thought the city of four Collins would
have actually told you, you know, we know you're building
the store and everything you started, but just so you know,
there's gonna be a six month road closure right in
front of it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, or maybe they could have gotten it done a
little faster. I was driving my grandson to baseball or
I guess it was football practice, and that over on
they had an intersection off the highway. One of the
exits was closed for construction, and we were driving by
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and all the men were just standing there, and my
grandson says, well, they're never going to get done if
they just stand there.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So yep, say, that's what you get from working in
a business. He knew growing up in the grocery business
that hey, you got to work. Yeah, is there what
part of the when you were on the floor. Is
there any one department that you liked the most?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I like the deli the best. The delis were named
for me, Caroline Stelli's, and that would have been my
that's my favorite department. Most people don't like the.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Delia, yeah, because it's kind of I mean it's not,
but it's kind of like a fast food story, you know,
where you're just preparing food real quick because these people
are coming up and it's not I think the other
ones are kind of lazy. They just want to stalk shelves.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yes, I started stocking shelves when I was a little girl,
and we would stop them by pictures and my mother
was always amazed. I could tell the difference between French
green beans and just plain old green beans.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
For a little girl. Yeah, that would be pretty tough.
So when you go to the deli, my dad likes,
you know, fresh chicken. These advertise y chicken or something's there.
How long when you because I don't even know if
they have real expiration? How long can a deli meat
stay before you have to throw it out?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh lord, I don't like to keep my deli meat
longer than five days. You can tell. You can tell
if it's going bad, because it'll start to get slimy.
Sometimes it will last seven. But five days for me
is about the max.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Okay, cool, And the deli is perfect because I mean
you like to cook and all your creative stuff. I
bet people love your deli.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, it was. It was really nice. As we progressed
in it. We had take home entrees. I remember the
last entree we had was macadamia encrusted halibate. So we
had some really nice things to take home.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, and that's that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We made most everything. Another tip that I don't think
most people know is if you're shopping in the deli,
most leftovers are only good for three days. So if
you're buying a chef prepared salad in the deli, you
want to eat it probably that day or the next day.
(28:52):
It could have been, you know, sitting for a couple
of days.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So no five day reel on that. That's only three.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, and a lot of the you know, I don't
think Kroger makes anything in store anymore. So most of
the deli salads are going to have a lot of preservatives. Right,
They will keep a little longer, but if they're chef prepared,
you should eat them within one to two days.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Good, no, go go go go goat shod dish.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Shiveth day, please don't part.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
He left this Shuveday.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We won't siple card.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
He like this shiveth Day, and you know we don't
give day.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, just check out a born on September the eighth.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You come a walsome motulu with me. Wallstwalls Matila. You
come a wall some matulu with me, he laughed, Anny
saying as he said, now, my baiy bo, you come
a walsome matulu with me.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
That was the father of country music, Jimmy Rogers. He
was born in Meridian in Mississippi in eighteen ninety seven.
Didn't really tour, not back then anyway. Mostly he was
just known for his records and they didn't release albums,
so he just released his singles. Between nineteen twenty seven
and nineteen thirty eight, Jimmy released over one hundred records,
and of course they didn't have music charts back then,
so we don't know exactly how huge he was, but
(30:17):
trust me, he was really really big and popular back then.
He was married and they had two daughters. Jimmy he
died when he was only thirty five years old. He
was nineteen thirty three. Died from to Berkeley Osis. Actor
Frank Craidy. He was born in Susanville, California. In nineteen fifteen.
He played the same guy on three different TV shows.
Yeppie was a storekeeper Sam Drunker, and then he COO Junction,
(30:38):
Green Acres and Beverly Hillbillies. He first got known as
Doc Williams on Ozzie and Harrientt nineteen fifty five nineteen
sixty five, he was now Frank. He was married for
sixty eight years when his wife died in two thousand
and eight. They had two children. Frankie died in twenty
twelve at ninety six years old, and we got.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Out there was gonna k.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
After the swaughter is over.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Come Back, Here, Bring Back. That was after comedian Sid
Caesar in the movie Greece. Sid was born in Yonkers,
New York, in nineteen twenty two. He hit big on
TV in the fifties, first on The Show of Shows,
then Caesar's Hour. Some of his movies It's a Mad,
(31:34):
Mad Mad Mad World Airport nineteen seventy five. He was
the coach in both Greece one and two. He was
in History of the World Part one. He worked in
entertainment from nineteen forty five to two thousand and five.
He was married for sixty seven years. His wife died
in twenty and ten. They had three children. Sid died
(31:58):
in two thousand and fourteen at the age of ninety one.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Crazy I am crazy for feeling solowly, I'm crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
So that was country legend. Patsy Kleine, who was born
in Winchester, Virginia in nineteen thirty two. She had one
of the most influential voices in music history. She was
the first female country singer to cross over and hit
big on the pop chart. Some of her songs I
(32:43):
Fall to Pieces Crazy, She's Got You Walking After Midnight.
She only released three albums in nineteen sixty three, she
was flying home after singing at a benefit concert when
her plane crash, killing all on board. She was only
thirty years old, was married and had both a son
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and a daughter.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
A little before you. But did you like Patsy?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I did like Patsy Cline.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, I was kind of thinking this. I don't know
why my mind was wondering. But we't want them to
buy the book, so we're not going to give them
all the secrets. But you talk about a key is
buying and keeping your stuff fresh by freezing it is
the easiest way to buy Vacuum locking it or what's
your How do you freeze your fries.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
After you freeze it?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Well, for example, if you're freezing milk, you're going to
put it into an ice cube tray and freeze it
and when it becomes hard when it's frozen, then you'll
put it in a freezer appropriate ziplock bag. And it's
important to note the day you frozen on it. My
book has storage time, so you should only keep milk
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about one month.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Okay, well this has been those frozen turkeys that come
out every Thanksgiving. If they don't sell, can they use it?
Do they get freezer by Can they last to the
next Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
No, I don't think they keep them that long. One
of my favorite tips about buying turkeys is when turkeys
first come out, uh, the grocery stores will mound them
quite high in the freezer. So if turkeys are above
the freezer line, which is about six inches below the
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top of the freezer, they're going to start thawing. So,
especially at the beginning of the season when turkeys first
come out and people aren't buying them, if they're above
the freezer line, you don't want to buy those because
they will have started throwing. You want to get one
that's below the freezer line.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well, that is really cool to new Thank you.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
That was Benjamin Ars singing for the cars. He was
born in lakewoiod, Ohio in nineteen forty seven. Now I
know rick O Ka Suk saying lead for the cars,
but they let Ben They let him sing on just
what I needed, Let's go drive and moving in stereo.
He even actually had one hit as a soul wards,
but it wasn't that big. And get this, all those
songs that Benjamin sang Rick Ocasik actually wrote him he
(35:24):
just let Ben sing him.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
He got married twice and they had one son from
it that He ended up dying from pancreatic cancer in
only two thousand and fifty three years old.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
What is this say?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That was Amy Mann, who was born in Richmond, Virginia,
in nineteen sixty She's currently sixty five. She started out
singing for the band Young Snakes. I really don't like
that name. She helped form the band Tell Tuesday in
nineteen eighty two. They got the name Tell Tuesday from
a painting by a German painter. Amy sang lead, played bass, guitar,
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and wrote all their songs. Some of their hits voices Carrie,
what about Love? Coming Up Close? Amy went solo in
nineteen ninety. There was a lot of talk about the
band getting back together a couple of months ago. That
was just a one time show. Amy is still solo.
In twenty eighteen, she went a Grammy for Best Folk Albums.
(36:42):
She married Michael Penn in nineteen ninety seven, who is
the brother older brother of Sean Penn. After David Arquette
was born in Bittonville, Virginia in nineteen seventy one. He
is fifty four today, he is the youngest of all
the acting archetes, has three older sisters, all of whom
(37:04):
are actresses. David played the sheriff in all the screen movies.
Also was in Never Been Kissed, three Thousand Miles to Graceland,
Eight Legged Freaks. He married actress Courtney Cox for fourteen years.
They had a daughter. He married his second wife in
twenty and fifteen and they have two sons.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So when you go to the grocery store, now, knowing
all the tips and tricks of the trade, is there
a time you go when you know that it's going
to be the least amount crowded and they're still going
to have the full shelves and everything.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, actually, since I live in Windsor, we have a
Kings in a safe way, I prefer to shop at
the Kings. My son in law is a King superstore manager,
and he told me that was a very difficult store
to shop because they don't have a back room. So
I did ask the store managers what days were best
(38:02):
to shop, and he said Tuesday and Friday because that's
the day they get their trucks.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Oh well, so basically, if you want to just ask
don't guess. Just ask them and they'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, ask them, what's the best day? The King the
windsor King Soupers has a lot. If you're not there
on a good day, they can have a lot of outs.
And the reason is they don't have a back room.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Seems kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
If your store has outs, I'd ask the store manager
what day do you get your truck?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, that's good to know. Actor Martin Freeman. He's also
fifty four. He's born in Aldershot, England. Best known for
playing Bilbo Baggins in the Hobbit movies. You watched all those,
didn't you with your grandkids?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
The What movies?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
The Hobbit movies? Oh yes, Now he was in some
other movies. He's in Love actually, Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy,
Whiskey Tangoed, Fox Truck.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
He was with actress Amanda Abbington for sixteen years. They
had a son and a daughter. They were married.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
She was born at Leish Chamar and she has worldwide
famous simply as Pink forty six today. She was born
in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, in nineteen seventy nine. Now, she started
out in an all girl group, and they were singing
and kind of having decent fame, but nothing. Finally, a
record executive came up to her and said, you know what,
you'd be a lot better as a solo artist, sixty
million records. That later record executive was totally right. Now,
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you know what, you can just tell Pink it's cool now.
Her boyfriend, he was a motocross racer, and during one
of his races, she went on to the side of
the track held up a sign proposing marriage to him
right in the middle of the race. He said yes,
and they got married in two thousands and they have
one son and one daughter. Would you have had the
nerve to do that if your husband was a motorcycle racer?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh, So, I think we've covered most of everything. We're
going to put links to all how you can get
to her cookbook and her book on supermarket Secrets and
all that kind of stuff. But you're still I saw
it today. I think it was you just released a
new episode or recipe if banadas. Do you do that
quite often?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, I have a weekly newsletter that comes out every Friday,
and most of my recipes are new. I actually have
enough to do another cookbook. But I have written a
historical fiction book that I just got back from the
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content editor and it's up for its I'm redoing it,
rewriting it, and I'm working on my memoir. So I
don't know that I'm going to do another cookbook that
I do do I do have a week blog.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well that's really cool, and we'll let you guys know
that because that recipe that sounds really good. I was
going to read that, going ooh it was.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
It was really good. It is really good.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That's golf. And we'll put a link to your newsletter
and how to get your books and everything. Did we forget?
I mean, you're doing a lot of you got a
historical fiction and did a lot of research on that
or just kind of come out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh, no, I did a lot of research. Actually, it's
a three part family saga, and it's really the story
of my grandmother. My grandfather left my grandmother and my
dad in charge of the farm in nineteen twenty two
and traveled around the country behind oil and gas leases.
(41:45):
And my book is I think my family was a
bit dysfunctional, and my my historical fiction book is just
my way of giving some sanity to my family. My
historical fiction starts in nineteen oh one with the discovery
of oil and gas in Beaumont, Texas.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Oh, that sounds like a fun read, so we'll keep
our eyes out for that. After you get done with
your rerating as much writing as you're done, it's amazing
you can get anything it's actually completed.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's hard, you know, but writers are never done. They
always want to keep redoing.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Even when they're done, they're not done.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Even when they're done, they're not done.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Well, thank you very much for being here. You've been awesome.
We've learned a lot, and we're going to make sure
we get their cookbook. We're going to make sure we
get our learn how to shop, and then we're going
to follow you on the lose letter. They'll be all leaky.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Well, thank you, it was fun, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, all right. We always ended a quote of the day.
Today your quote to day, it's going to come from
Queen Elizabeth iid she died today in twenty twenty two,
ninety six years old. Don seem like it's been three years,
does it?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
But Elizabeth says is while life is hard, the courageous
they do not lie down and accept defeat. They are
all the more determined to struggle for a better future.
And we have a radio station called Country Intergot Radio,
and we let somebody requests close out song today. It
comes today from Jerry and Boise Idoh he wants to
hear Shane knowing song Love to trym on. You guys
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all have an awesome day. Thank you, Carolyn. We'll all
talk tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
The Losso Master questions the h's going. A few of
their shoes stand tall in the circle, singing.
Speaker 8 (43:22):
There hard out for you.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
You don't keep it alive, tradition wants it's all then.
Don't know if I could wear them all that shore,
I could try them all. They shine just like that
every time they took the stage.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
Now faide of jeans and T shirts, all the craze of.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
The modern age.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I miss cap on Timnuty suits covered in rhyme's homes.
Don't know if I could wear them that.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Shore, I could try them all.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Sing song facts the common man of the code, hard
facts alike, be a Mordyrn Day earl behind the modern
day forty five. I know those shoes are all big,
and the music songmos gone. I don't know whether I
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could feel their shoes, but a shoulder like a trimse
Okay do.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hi everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I am Jeff and welcome to history. In fact, it's
about today. Today is September the eighth. Today is all
about food, from buying it to storing it, to cooking it.
I had to bring in a real special guest, an expert. Today.
She is going to help with us. Now. She grew
up in the grocery store business. She has written a
really award winning cookbook and a book about a grocery
store secrets that everybody should know. Carolyn, why don't you
(00:41):
go ahead introduce yourself today.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, I am a former grocery store owner and deli operator.
My family had Steels Markets for sixty one years in
Fort Collins, Colorado. We closed in two thousand and one.
We had a rather chaotic, ugly ending. I thought our
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ending would make a great memoir, a great story, so
I started writing it. I drove my husband crazy. He said,
you have all these wonderful recipes, why don't you do
a cookbook. My favorite thing to do at the stores,
My favorite responsibility was to create recipes for our ad.
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So if we had pork chops in the ad, I
would do a pork chop recipe to give our customers
creative ways to use what we had on sale. So
I wrote a cookbook as a tribute to my family.
It has a history of the store. It has some
old ads to set myself apart. I included how to
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select and store perishables. I'm really proud of that cookbook.
It was picked in the top ten favorite by the
Denver Post Food staff. It's won three National war Words.
I believe I am the only award winning cookbook author
that used to own grocery stores. I didn't much care
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for social media. I started doing social media during COVID.
I had a young man helping me named Bobby Crue.
I really did it to get myself positioned online for
my memoir to come out, and Bobby asked me to
do a blog on saving money at the grocery store.
That's when food inflation got so bad. I think twenty
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twenty one it was up eight point six percent, and
in twenty twenty two it was up. Food inflation peaked
at thirteen percent. So Bobby Crue writes whoror and like snakes,
we have nothing in common. But he suggested I do
a blog on that. So I pulled my grocery shopping
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information out of my cookbook and spent a year and
a half expanding it to create grocery shopping secrets to
give people some tips on how to save money on
their groceries.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And that I mean it's gone down a little in
but everybody can always save money on grocery. That always
helps out a lot on the old family budget. Yes,
so when you're cook but I mean it's varied.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Andy.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You guys love just peris and through it you'll love it.
Do you have any specific type of food do you
like like? Do you like work jobs? Do you like
Italian food, Oriental food, Mexican food? Do you have any
favorite My favorite.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Foods are Italian, Mexican and French. My family's favorite recipe
in my cookbook is chicken enchiladas with atomatilla sauce.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My uncle Eddie was a butcher at the First Steals.
He eventually had his own store in Denver. I don't
know how many people know Tony's in Denver. It's a
specialty food store. But Tony worked for my uncle Eddie.
I have Uncle Eddie's primary recipe in my cookbook.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You have a lot of good recipes in there.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Too, Yeah, which food comes out, the prim rim comes
out tender, juicy, and medium rare every time.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well that's that kind of makes your mouth water here.
And it's not even primary time. It's a primary. But
I think most people think of the round like Christmas,
holidays or something like that. But it pays good year round,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Prime rab is good year round, but usually especially anymore,
it's getting so expensive we usually only have it for holidays, right.
I did hear Stu Leonard on the Business Channel. He
owns grocery stores in Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey,
and he said that one reason beef is so expensive
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is that beef herds are at the lowest levels they've
been in fifty years.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh well, I guess that kind of makes sense. That's
kind of what we went through with eggs here last year.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, eggs got pretty expensive. I do have in my
Grocery Shopping Secrets book how to freeze everything, even eggs.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You can freeze eggs.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, you can freeze eggs. So for example, if you're
making a recipe where you only use the yolks or
you only use the whites, you can freeze what is left.
And my book has tips on that freezing milk. When
you saw milk, it's going to have a different consistency.
So you can't put it in your coffee or drink it,
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but you can put it in smoothies or use it
for baking or cooking. Oh so I've got a lot
of tips like that which can really help you cut
down on your waist.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, I'm glad you're here today. Now we know neither
of us are nerds, right, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I maybe was in school. I don't think I am anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, well, revert back to school. We're going to celebrate
today on this These.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. It's five year
mission to explore strange new worlds. The seacounts new life
and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has
gone before.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Today is National Star Trek Day. I know that's not nice.
There are a lot of people who really get into
Star Trek. First episode of Star Trek air today in
nineteen sixty six. Now it was produced by Lici O.
Ball Yeah, her Desilute production company, but no one watched
it and it was only on the air for three years.
(06:49):
For some reason. After the show was over, Yeah, people
started watching the reruns. So many people started watching those
reruns that they actually held the first Star Trek convention
in nineteen seventy two. Now Star Trek, of course, is
a multi billion dollar franchise, TV shows, movies, lots and
lots of merchandise. So my tricky friends, whether you dress
up or just binge, watched Star Trek, just enjoy the
(07:09):
nice Star Trek day. You ever watched Star Trek?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I was trying to remember back if I watched it
in the sixties, and I did not, Well, then I
think there are like nine are there like nine series
TV series now or something?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Probably nine movies. Yeah, there's at least three TV series
and probably about nine movies. I think so. But like
you weren't alone. Nobody watched it in the sixties.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I can't believe Lucille Ball produced it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's amazing, I know, since she had the only one
who had the foresight to say, you know what, this
could actually work. Of course, DESI probably wouldn't have done it,
but Lucy did. All right, let's se what happened in
the entertainment to day on September the eighth. It's about
your nineteen ninety five. The Dangerous Minds movie soundtrack was
the number one album. Michael Jackson had the number one
song with You Are Not Alone.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
You The Fay Call You.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Brian Wyatt had the number one country song with someone
Else's Star, She's like someone.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Else caps getting one? I wish you? Why can't he
be Loney? Has those other people loved? Sound must be
on someone else's stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The number one book was from Pottersfield by Patricia Cornwall.
Top movie was Too Long Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie
Newmar Now three drag queens. They're driving across the country
when they're our breaks down, they're stuck in a small town.
Stars Patrick Swayze, Leslie Snipes and John Leguizanam. Now this
has nothing to do with Chinese food. Is about drag wings.
But what's your favorite Chinese food recipe?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Cow chicken?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Okay, of a lot of heat to it.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You can make it either hot or not so hot.
I like it hot.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So your tips on the grocery store? What is one
tip you think every no grocery store owner wants, but
everybody should know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well. I think one thing is when you go to
the meat counter and you find the marinated or rubbed
meats that are convenience. Usually those are foods that are
just getting ready to pass their expiration date. We marinate
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them or put a rub on them and raise the price.
We call that value added. So I'm not saying are
not good, but if you buy those, you should eat
them that day.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So if I wanted, if I'm just out of the blue,
I'm just going to the grocery store, going to pick
up what's the biggest tip I can get for getting
the best piece of meat.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It should have marbling, the more marbling it has, the
more tender and juicy it's going to be marbling. Or
the little white flex of fat that are in the
meat that are in beef pork will also have it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Does color indicate any kind of Does the color of
the meat give any indication and what kind of whether
it's how good it is or fresh or anything.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yes, when meat starts to pass its prime or it
starts to deteriorate, it'll get brown, brown blotches. A lot
of times. You'll see that meat on sale a lot
of times. Your supermarket, if it has meat on sale,
it will be a lower grade like Select. So if
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you're buying meat on sale, you should be sure and
check the grade. Beef is graded prime, Choice, select, and
no role. So the select and no role are going
to be cheaper and they're going to be tougher with
less flavor. So if you're buying meat on sale, make
sure you're getting at least a select or at least
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a choice or a prime and not a select.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well prime, you talked about prim only like two percent
of all meats prime, right.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, and prime rib is not necessarily prime. It can
be choice. And actually sometimes I prefer my tender lines
and prime rib is choice rather than prime because they
can get mushy.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And if you go to the store and ask for
prime rib, they're just going to give you a ribi roast.
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, let's say you don't have to spend that extra
money for that little two percent of prime that they're great?
No ah, right, well that's really helpful. And then as
pork pretty a standard with that or is pork have
different I don't know what you call it, like germ
concerns or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think the thing that I look for mostly in
pork is it's often injected with a saline solution. If
it says if the label you can you can tell
on the label if it is injected, because it will
contain things other than pork. So when you're buying pork,
you want to be sure you're just getting pork. It
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costs enough without paying for salt water chicken. I don't
think so, not that I'm aware of. With chicken, I
like to buy redbird chicken chicken. You know, some people
are really picky it has to be free range fed
a certain way. I'm not that picky about it. My
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son will only buy free range chickens. So those are
things to look for. The thing that's important to me
is if I'm going to seer or grill my chicken,
I want to buy chicken that's chilled with a cold
cold air process and not a water process. Chicken, when
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it's processed after it's slaughtered, it's either run through cold
air to bring it to temperature, or it's run through
cold water. And so if it's run through cold water,
often it will absorb some of that water. So if
you want to grill or sere your chicken, you're better
to get air chilled chicken.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Do is that even on the label you have no idea?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, it'll be on the label. It's required to be
on the label, okay if it's chilled.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And I think labels, let's be honest, most people don't
really pay that much attention to the labels. They might
just look a little bit and then they kind of like, Okay,
that looks good. I don't think a lot of people
really give a lot of credit. And the labels are
actually pretty informative.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
The labels are very informative. I have a chapter in
my book that in my Grocery Shopping Secrets book that
discusses understanding food labels. Yes it can, get it can.
A lot of people don't pay attention, although the people
that pay attention are quite concerned.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Brain they're the educated buyer and actually the champions when
they want to make sure that they're not getting cheated.
Yeah right, we'll see. That's a good say. We're pushing
your book pretty good. A lot of people are going
to tune in just to get that label part. All right,
let's see what happened in the world On September eight,
over the years fifteen oh four, in Florence, Michaelangelo his
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sculpture of David. It was unveiled. Now it stands fourteen
feet high, weighs six tons. It was made from one
block of granted. Now other artists and sculptures that already
rejected that one block, well he took it. They said
it was fine. He said, no, it's good now, David.
It's basically when he slaved Goliath. Seeing Michaelangelo, he was
paid to make that sculpture for the Florence Cathedral. But
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now that was un It was actually more magnificent than
they even thought he was going to do. It was
so good. But they only had one problem. There was
no way they could move that six to ten statue
all the way across town over to the cathedral. So
what they did is they slid it across the straits,
set it up in the town square, the Piazza de Signal,
and they called it good. So michael Angelo, when he
scoped to David, he depicted David right before he fought Goliath.
He wanted people to feel David's pent up sense of
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energy before the fight. You like that kind of art.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, Actually, we were in the Vatican and saw the
ceiling that he painted. He's pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, he was an amazing dude. Fifteen sixty five, the
first permanent settlement in the United States. Well when in
the United States yet, But North America took place. Yeah,
the Spanish they found in Saint Augustine, Florida.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
All right.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In the Bible Book of Leviticus, it says that a
man shall lie with the beast, he shall be put
to death, and the bees shall be slaid. All the
pilgrims of the Plymouth Colony and they took that very seriously.
Sixteen forty to the first confirmed active beast reality in
North America happened a pilgrim teenage and named Thomas Granger.
He admitted to having sexual relations with a horse, a cow,
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two goats, a number of sheep, two calves in a turkey.
So they made Thomas watts as they killed all the
animals that he had as relations with. Then they burned
their bodies. Yeah, then they hung them. How would you
like to go down in history for that? And they
even got your name and everything. That'd be horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's quite a story.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Oh, do you remember seeing the Pledge of Allegiance when
you were growing up?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yes, we said it every day in school before school
started the United States. In eighteen ninety two, the United
States Pledge of Allegiance was published and the Youth Companion.
It was written by Frank Bellamy, who was a very
religious man, but he did not include the phrase under
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God in the pledge that was added by Congress in
nineteen fifty four. The Great Galveston Hurricane hit in nineteen hundred.
It is the deadliest hurricane in US history. Galveston, Texas
was pretty much destroyed, killing between eight thousand and twelve
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thousand people. When they rebuilt the city, they added a
seawall and raised most of the city up by about
sixteen feet. The second deadliest hurricane to hit the US
was in eighteen twenty eight the Okee the Okee Choby
hurricane hit Florida, killing twenty five hundred people. In nineteen
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twenty three, the US Navy lost ships during peacetime. This
was called the Honda Point disaster. Honda Point is off
the coast of California near San Bernardino. Fourteen US Navy
destroyers were performing war exercises. They were sailing from San
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Francisco to San Diego at nine pm in heavy fog,
traveling twenty knots or thirty six miles per hour. The
ships were supposed to make a U turn into Sand's
Bernardino Channel. Because of heavy fog, they missed it. Seven
of the destroyers crashed into the rocks and sank. Two
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others hit the rocky shoreline but didn't sink. In total,
twenty three sailors died. It could have been much worse.
And in nineteen thirty on this day. This is my favorite.
Richard Drew invented scotch tape.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Then that was a good guy when he made a
lot of our lives easier.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yes, and the sea. How scotch tape has evolved, gorilla tape,
duct tape.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh man, there's just lots of Now it's like three
good stuff. Now when on your cookbook, let's go back
to talking about that one. Thinking about it, you do
a lot of fresh items in there. I mean you
use a lot of like fresh vegetables and stuff like that.
We talked about meat. How can you pick out the
best like fruits and vegetables that are fresh.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
My Grocery Shopping Secrets book and my cookbook have tips
on picking out fresh food. Every food is different. Let's
just take califup flower for example. I was shopping at Kings,
which is a Kroger, and I wanted cauliflower, and the
cauliflower had brown spots on it. That means it's starting
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to decay. I asked the produce clerk, don't you have
any cauliflower that doesn't have brown spots? And she told
me these just came in. It's all we have. So
sometimes you don't have a lot of choice with what
you're buying. My dad used to tell me, garbage in,
garbage out. Every day your supermarket will sell some food
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that can be classified as garbage. So with that particular cauliflower,
I had to go ahead and buy it if I
wanted cauliflower, and I just cut the brown parts out.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
So is there an industry standard on what they have
to do for dates said, like when the meat and
started turning brown and they mark it down, is there
a standard where they have to like start marking it down.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I have never seen although they put the meat on sale,
I have never seen produce sold on sale. That's going bad.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's that's going bad, that's just step to the store.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I have never seen a store do that. I
don't think I have ever seen it. I do I
will see them put meat on sale, dairy on sale
fish on sale, but I don't think they do with produce.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Okay, And then is this was this guy full of it?
Or is he telling me the truth one time? I
was not until longer and I go at the beginning
of summer, the first load of watermelons came in and
this guy was sitting there kind of like antificating to
everybody there like he knew watermelons. He said that you
wanted to be the most yellow on the belly because
when a watermelon is cut, it stops ripening, and so
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it won't get any more right than what it already
is when it's cut.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I think you do you want? Yes? I think he's right,
and you want a watermelon it has a flat belly.
My dad taught me to thump it with my finger,
my third finger, so you just give it a thump.
And if it sounds hollow, it's ripe. And also if
you press on the stem end, you want that to
be soft.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So big thump and soft stem in. That's the whiz. Yes,
that worked for all melons or just watermelons.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Melons you want to feel heavy for their size, so
like candelope, you want it to feel heavy for your size.
If you smell the stem end and it smells like
a canalope. It's ripe, and you also want around the
stem end for it to be soft.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Cool deal, let's talk a little bit about World War Two.
Nineteen forty one, Germany, they started the caason liningrad at seas,
lasted nine hundred days. Over eight hundred thousand civilians died
before it was over. Now, in nineteen forty three, Italy
they suridered done. Conditionally, they were done fighting. They weren't
going to do it anymore. They told the United States
Britain brand, whatever we're done. There's only one problem though,
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there were so many German soldiers in Italy at that time. Well,
they didn't surrender, so fighting just kept on going. Nineteen
seventy four are US President Jerald Ford. He pardoned Richard
Nixon of any crime that he might have committed there,
but he didn't pardon the other one hundred thousand people
that were helping him out. In twenty sixteen, it was
revealed that there are actually four species of drafts, not
just one. We talked about. Your family owned the steels
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market up there. Anybody who's been in northern Colorado, they
definitely know steals It was so fun. But can any
independent now with Kroger and Walmart and all these costco
sask can an independent grocery store even make it anymore?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
There are some independence that are still around. There are
some larger independence like LUNs and bayer Ley's, Wegman's back East.
It's pretty tough a lot of competition. I think you
need to be in a smaller community, a smaller town.
(22:57):
My brother's kids having it independent store, and I want.
There's just been an independent store that opened in Johnstown.
It's called Woods there from another state.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Is it just the purchasing power they don't have the
hard po The hard part.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is a purchasing power. Yeah. If this is an okay time,
I'll just tell you what happened to Steele's. What made
it hard for Steeles to survive. We opened a new
store on the corner of Drake and Shields. It was
close to Drake and Shields in nineteen ninety eight. In December,
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two months after we opened it, the city closed the
road in front of it. We were doing three hundred
and ninety thousand a week, which was on target with projections.
We dropped down to one hundred and ninety thousand a week.
Our customers couldn't get there. The road was closed for months.
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The day the road opened, our supplier tried to take
us over. They sent somebody in that I called Jack
the Ripper. He said, give us a million dollars or
give us your keys today. We never could make a
deal with them. Every time they would make an offer,
they would call the CEO and he would rescind it
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and they would come back with the worst offer. So
by midnight that night we hadn't made a deal and
they flew back to their headquarters. We ended up suing
them in federal court and won because they had recal violations,
but it cost us a million dollars we filed for
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We had to sell one of our buildings and lease
it back in order to pay our legal fees. So,
you know, things that go wrong when you're an independent
can take you down.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Well, yeah, you can't. You know, anybody else absorb in it.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, we had our plan, our reorganization plan approved in
August and then super Walmart opened on the corner of
le May and Mulberry. When a new store opens, customers
usually want to go there just to see what it's like,
and it takes at least three months to pre your
sales to return to normal. But our creditors wouldn't give
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us the opportunity to wait, so we had to we
had to file for chapter seven. So when those things happen,
when you have something go wrong and you're little, it's
really hard. I've often wondered how the small store survived
during COVID. That had to just be really difficult.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, well, luckily, like you just said, some of them
did hope we'll still be able to make a run
for it. Yeah, that people don't really think it's something
like closing the street. I mean what it's like, Oh,
you got to be joking me, and that's like, that's
just not even fair.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, no, and we were totally unaware of it that
it would was even a possibility.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
You would have thought the city of four Collins would
have actually told you, you know, we know you're building
the store and everything you started, but just so you know,
there's gonna be a six month road closure right in
front of it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, or maybe they could have gotten it done a
little faster. I was driving my grandson to baseball or
I guess it was football practice, and that over on
they had an intersection off the highway. One of the
exits was closed for construction, and we were driving by
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and all the men were just standing there, and my
grandson says, well, they're never going to get done if
they just stand there.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So yep, say, that's what you get from working in
a business. He knew growing up in the grocery business
that hey, you got to work. Yeah, is there what
part of the when you were on the floor. Is
there any one department that you liked the most?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I like the deli the best. The delis were named
for me, Caroline Stelli's, and that would have been my
that's my favorite department. Most people don't like the.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Delia, yeah, because it's kind of I mean it's not,
but it's kind of like a fast food story, you know,
where you're just preparing food real quick because these people
are coming up and it's not I think the other
ones are kind of lazy. They just want to stalk shelves.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yes, I started stocking shelves when I was a little girl,
and we would stop them by pictures and my mother
was always amazed. I could tell the difference between French
green beans and just plain old green beans.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
For a little girl. Yeah, that would be pretty tough.
So when you go to the deli, my dad likes,
you know, fresh chicken. These advertise y chicken or something's there.
How long when you because I don't even know if
they have real expiration? How long can a deli meat
stay before you have to throw it out?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh lord, I don't like to keep my deli meat
longer than five days. You can tell. You can tell
if it's going bad, because it'll start to get slimy.
Sometimes it will last seven. But five days for me
is about the max.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Okay, cool, And the deli is perfect because I mean
you like to cook and all your creative stuff. I
bet people love your deli.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, it was. It was really nice. As we progressed
in it. We had take home entrees. I remember the
last entree we had was macadamia encrusted halibate. So we
had some really nice things to take home.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, and that's that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We made most everything. Another tip that I don't think
most people know is if you're shopping in the deli,
most leftovers are only good for three days. So if
you're buying a chef prepared salad in the deli, you
want to eat it probably that day or the next day.
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It could have been, you know, sitting for a couple
of days.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So no five day reel on that. That's only three.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, and a lot of the you know, I don't
think Kroger makes anything in store anymore. So most of
the deli salads are going to have a lot of preservatives. Right,
They will keep a little longer, but if they're chef prepared,
you should eat them within one to two days.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Good, no, go go go go goat shod dish.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Shiveth day, please don't part.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
He left this Shuveday.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We won't siple card.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
He like this shiveth Day, and you know we don't
give day.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, just check out a born on September the eighth.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You come a walsome motulu with me. Wallstwalls Matila. You
come a wall some matulu with me, he laughed, Anny
saying as he said, now, my baiy bo, you come
a walsome matulu with me.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
That was the father of country music, Jimmy Rogers. He
was born in Meridian in Mississippi in eighteen ninety seven.
Didn't really tour, not back then anyway. Mostly he was
just known for his records and they didn't release albums,
so he just released his singles. Between nineteen twenty seven
and nineteen thirty eight, Jimmy released over one hundred records,
and of course they didn't have music charts back then,
so we don't know exactly how huge he was, but
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trust me, he was really really big and popular back then.
He was married and they had two daughters. Jimmy he
died when he was only thirty five years old. He
was nineteen thirty three. Died from to Berkeley Osis. Actor
Frank Craidy. He was born in Susanville, California. In nineteen fifteen.
He played the same guy on three different TV shows.
Yeppie was a storekeeper Sam Drunker, and then he COO Junction,
(30:38):
Green Acres and Beverly Hillbillies. He first got known as
Doc Williams on Ozzie and Harrientt nineteen fifty five nineteen
sixty five, he was now Frank. He was married for
sixty eight years when his wife died in two thousand
and eight. They had two children. Frankie died in twenty
twelve at ninety six years old, and we got.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Out there was gonna k.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
After the swaughter is over.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Come Back, Here, Bring Back. That was after comedian Sid
Caesar in the movie Greece. Sid was born in Yonkers,
New York, in nineteen twenty two. He hit big on
TV in the fifties, first on The Show of Shows,
then Caesar's Hour. Some of his movies It's a Mad,
(31:34):
Mad Mad Mad World Airport nineteen seventy five. He was
the coach in both Greece one and two. He was
in History of the World Part one. He worked in
entertainment from nineteen forty five to two thousand and five.
He was married for sixty seven years. His wife died
in twenty and ten. They had three children. Sid died
(31:58):
in two thousand and fourteen at the age of ninety one.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Crazy I am crazy for feeling solowly, I'm crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
So that was country legend. Patsy Kleine, who was born
in Winchester, Virginia in nineteen thirty two. She had one
of the most influential voices in music history. She was
the first female country singer to cross over and hit
big on the pop chart. Some of her songs I
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Fall to Pieces Crazy, She's Got You Walking After Midnight.
She only released three albums in nineteen sixty three, she
was flying home after singing at a benefit concert when
her plane crash, killing all on board. She was only
thirty years old, was married and had both a son
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and a daughter.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
A little before you. But did you like Patsy?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I did like Patsy Cline.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, I was kind of thinking this. I don't know
why my mind was wondering. But we't want them to
buy the book, so we're not going to give them
all the secrets. But you talk about a key is
buying and keeping your stuff fresh by freezing it is
the easiest way to buy Vacuum locking it or what's
your How do you freeze your fries.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
After you freeze it?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Well, for example, if you're freezing milk, you're going to
put it into an ice cube tray and freeze it
and when it becomes hard when it's frozen, then you'll
put it in a freezer appropriate ziplock bag. And it's
important to note the day you frozen on it. My
book has storage time, so you should only keep milk
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about one month.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Okay, well this has been those frozen turkeys that come
out every Thanksgiving. If they don't sell, can they use it?
Do they get freezer by Can they last to the
next Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
No, I don't think they keep them that long. One
of my favorite tips about buying turkeys is when turkeys
first come out, uh, the grocery stores will mound them
quite high in the freezer. So if turkeys are above
the freezer line, which is about six inches below the
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top of the freezer, they're going to start thawing. So,
especially at the beginning of the season when turkeys first
come out and people aren't buying them, if they're above
the freezer line, you don't want to buy those because
they will have started throwing. You want to get one
that's below the freezer line.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well, that is really cool to new Thank you.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
That was Benjamin Ars singing for the cars. He was
born in lakewoiod, Ohio in nineteen forty seven. Now I
know rick O Ka Suk saying lead for the cars,
but they let Ben They let him sing on just
what I needed, Let's go drive and moving in stereo.
He even actually had one hit as a soul wards,
but it wasn't that big. And get this, all those
songs that Benjamin sang Rick Ocasik actually wrote him he
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just let Ben sing him.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
He got married twice and they had one son from
it that He ended up dying from pancreatic cancer in
only two thousand and fifty three years old.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
What is this say?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That was Amy Mann, who was born in Richmond, Virginia,
in nineteen sixty She's currently sixty five. She started out
singing for the band Young Snakes. I really don't like
that name. She helped form the band Tell Tuesday in
nineteen eighty two. They got the name Tell Tuesday from
a painting by a German painter. Amy sang lead, played bass, guitar,
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and wrote all their songs. Some of their hits voices Carrie,
what about Love? Coming Up Close? Amy went solo in
nineteen ninety. There was a lot of talk about the
band getting back together a couple of months ago. That
was just a one time show. Amy is still solo.
In twenty eighteen, she went a Grammy for Best Folk Albums.
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She married Michael Penn in nineteen ninety seven, who is
the brother older brother of Sean Penn. After David Arquette
was born in Bittonville, Virginia in nineteen seventy one. He
is fifty four today, he is the youngest of all
the acting archetes, has three older sisters, all of whom
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are actresses. David played the sheriff in all the screen movies.
Also was in Never Been Kissed, three Thousand Miles to Graceland,
Eight Legged Freaks. He married actress Courtney Cox for fourteen years.
They had a daughter. He married his second wife in
twenty and fifteen and they have two sons.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So when you go to the grocery store, now, knowing
all the tips and tricks of the trade, is there
a time you go when you know that it's going
to be the least amount crowded and they're still going
to have the full shelves and everything.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, actually, since I live in Windsor, we have a
Kings in a safe way, I prefer to shop at
the Kings. My son in law is a King superstore manager,
and he told me that was a very difficult store
to shop because they don't have a back room. So
I did ask the store managers what days were best
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to shop, and he said Tuesday and Friday because that's
the day they get their trucks.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Oh well, so basically, if you want to just ask
don't guess. Just ask them and they'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, ask them, what's the best day? The King the
windsor King Soupers has a lot. If you're not there
on a good day, they can have a lot of outs.
And the reason is they don't have a back room.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Seems kind of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
If your store has outs, I'd ask the store manager
what day do you get your truck?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, that's good to know. Actor Martin Freeman. He's also
fifty four. He's born in Aldershot, England. Best known for
playing Bilbo Baggins in the Hobbit movies. You watched all those,
didn't you with your grandkids?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
The What movies?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
The Hobbit movies? Oh yes, Now he was in some
other movies. He's in Love actually, Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy,
Whiskey Tangoed, Fox Truck.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
He was with actress Amanda Abbington for sixteen years. They
had a son and a daughter. They were married.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
Now.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
She was born at Leish Chamar and she has worldwide
famous simply as Pink forty six today. She was born
in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, in nineteen seventy nine. Now, she started
out in an all girl group, and they were singing
and kind of having decent fame, but nothing. Finally, a
record executive came up to her and said, you know what,
you'd be a lot better as a solo artist, sixty
million records. That later record executive was totally right. Now,
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you know what, you can just tell Pink it's cool now.
Her boyfriend, he was a motocross racer, and during one
of his races, she went on to the side of
the track held up a sign proposing marriage to him
right in the middle of the race. He said yes,
and they got married in two thousands and they have
one son and one daughter. Would you have had the
nerve to do that if your husband was a motorcycle racer?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh, So, I think we've covered most of everything. We're
going to put links to all how you can get
to her cookbook and her book on supermarket Secrets and
all that kind of stuff. But you're still I saw
it today. I think it was you just released a
new episode or recipe if banadas. Do you do that
quite often?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, I have a weekly newsletter that comes out every Friday,
and most of my recipes are new. I actually have
enough to do another cookbook. But I have written a
historical fiction book that I just got back from the
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content editor and it's up for its I'm redoing it,
rewriting it, and I'm working on my memoir. So I
don't know that I'm going to do another cookbook that
I do do I do have a week blog.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well that's really cool, and we'll let you guys know
that because that recipe that sounds really good. I was
going to read that, going ooh it was.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
It was really good. It is really good.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That's golf. And we'll put a link to your newsletter
and how to get your books and everything. Did we forget?
I mean, you're doing a lot of you got a
historical fiction and did a lot of research on that
or just kind of come out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh, no, I did a lot of research. Actually, it's
a three part family saga, and it's really the story
of my grandmother. My grandfather left my grandmother and my
dad in charge of the farm in nineteen twenty two
and traveled around the country behind oil and gas leases.
(41:45):
And my book is I think my family was a
bit dysfunctional, and my my historical fiction book is just
my way of giving some sanity to my family. My
historical fiction starts in nineteen oh one with the discovery
of oil and gas in Beaumont, Texas.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Oh, that sounds like a fun read, so we'll keep
our eyes out for that. After you get done with
your rerating as much writing as you're done, it's amazing
you can get anything it's actually completed.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's hard, you know, but writers are never done. They
always want to keep redoing.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Even when they're done, they're not done.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Even when they're done, they're not done.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Well, thank you very much for being here. You've been awesome.
We've learned a lot, and we're going to make sure
we get their cookbook. We're going to make sure we
get our learn how to shop, and then we're going
to follow you on the lose letter. They'll be all leaky.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Well, thank you, it was fun, Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, all right. We always ended a quote of the day.
Today your quote to day, it's going to come from
Queen Elizabeth iid she died today in twenty twenty two,
ninety six years old. Don seem like it's been three years,
does it?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
But Elizabeth says is while life is hard, the courageous
they do not lie down and accept defeat. They are
all the more determined to struggle for a better future.
And we have a radio station called Country Intergot Radio,
and we let somebody requests close out song today. It
comes today from Jerry and Boise Idoh he wants to
hear Shane knowing song Love to trym on. You guys
(43:10):
all have an awesome day. Thank you, Carolyn. We'll all
talk tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
The Losso Master questions the h's going. A few of
their shoes stand tall in the circle, singing.
Speaker 8 (43:22):
There hard out for you.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
You don't keep it alive, tradition wants it's all then.
Don't know if I could wear them all that shore,
I could try them all. They shine just like that
every time they took the stage.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
Now faide of jeans and T shirts, all the craze of.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
The modern age.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I miss cap on Timnuty suits covered in rhyme's homes.
Don't know if I could wear them that.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Shore, I could try them all.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Sing song facts the common man of the code, hard
facts alike, be a Mordyrn Day earl behind the modern
day forty five. I know those shoes are all big,
and the music songmos gone. I don't know whether I
(44:21):
could feel their shoes, but a shoulder like a trimse
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