November 18, 2025 • 50 mins
By Billy Dean, Schwim, Little Steve, and Sam Woo
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, yeah, lie By, Yeah, lie you got.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Y ye save.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Comfort you buy by Ills?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Did you buck now.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
By?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I don't liar bag.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Welcome to Hockey Top Podcast, Episode two fourteen. Stay glassy.
I'm your host, Bill Ding. I'm here with my two
co hosts and a special guest. We got Steve Shwim
and mister Sam. Who's behind the glass tonight? Still, I
mean it's still a little out of my ear, he says. He's, uh,
you know, doing everything to make this seamless.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But who's number one? I'm showing you who's number one
right now?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Number one? Great fit out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
You can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Apple,
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
Nor like this.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It usually goes a little more just too dead. But Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,
and Apple, Apple and Google podcasts. You find us as
you're there, gentlemen. Uh oh, leaves fust review kind okay,
(01:42):
leave us a good of five star review if you
have some kind of us. My son over here is
telling me he has to go.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Hell you doing, Dean, I have a come here.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Come here. This This kid is uh just telling me
from the other room that he has to go peep
so lovely. Yeah, yeah, say hi.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
If you want, if you want to go on Live
are you know?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, you can go and you can go.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Just have a peanut bottle and live here.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
We can't quick, I'll go. Here's what we're drinking. I'm
drinking fizzyble uh fizzing wizzy bowls by blero snort. It
is a Sherbert pop candy sour. I will try that
in two minutes. I have to go and bring this
kid to the bathroom real fast. It is a start,
great start to this podcast. So you guys take it
for two seconds. I will be right back.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
All right, swim you want me to go? I have
I have two drinks. You want to go and then
I'll do my two?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Sure? What what the hell I'm going? I'm still drinking
gin this time. I went and I got dogfish compelling gin.
This is normally better in like a cocktail, but I'm
gonna drink it straight tonight. No, that sounds compelling gen No.
I guess they distill it with juniper berry's orange peel,
lemon and lime peel, cinnamon, green cardamom, coriandersy kafir lion leaves.
(03:02):
This is like so intensely botanical. But I'm gonna drink it.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Straight out of the bottle or in a glass.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, i'll put it. I'll do use some ice maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
All right? All right? So I have two things here.
I have what I'm drinking, which I went up to
the Old Mill today. I got myself some cider.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Bert.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Oh did you actually go and get it?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
No time for that.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So this is a black cherry and vanilla cider, which
I think I had there when we went there. I
think I had this one. It's called General George. And
then my other beverage that I'm not drinking. But so
Esta and I had a bet over the weekend the
Tampa Florida game, and I profoundly thought Tampa was going
(03:54):
to suck because they're missing seven regular players. And Steven's like,
I hope they win, and I'm like, all right, I'll
but you drink that they do of my choosing. And
so I lost the bet because Tampa somehow beat Florida.
And uh so I got Stephen a bottle of Italian gin.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Okay, that's Italian, yep, oh, there it is. I am
excited to try Italian Italy.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So this is a.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
A beverage one slash birthday gift for your upcoming birth
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I will Oh yeah, I forgot that's coming up. I
will begrudgingly drink here Italian gin.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You'll finally have some Italian in you.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And you know that ain't the truth.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I took I took Dean off.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I noticed can't come back at all.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I muted him too. You know, so you can
watch this podcast. You know I'm drinking where we make
winning memories together, one career at a time.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Did they release more this season?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
There's a new batch released. It's the distribution that I'm
concerned about. But yeah, just just give me a couple
of weeks to figure this in. It is so stupid,
it's yeah, I'll tell you off air. Should we let
back Billy Dean back on?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Sure, let's let him back on. Do we know if
he's back?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh, there he is.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
We'll let the We'll let the host back in.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Why not yet?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Guarenting it's one of the fun joys in life, potty training,
especially when your kid doesn't want to go to bed
when you supposed to. Uh yeah, so I'm sure you
guys are not your beers and all the fun stuff
that goes with that.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I'm drinking.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Oh yeah, that's true. This is number seven?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Is it seven?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I can't be seven, Hendricks, you're at six three? Uh yeah, yeah,
I think this is a six. See it is?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No which one?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You can't get wrong with that one. All right, let's
go to so that for days today's episode, here's a
weekly snapshot. Uh there was some what.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Honey shot?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You don't like?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
What the hell is a weekly snapshot?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Well, like a snapshot of what's happening in the league,
A snapshot a photo snapshot, but a snapshot in hockey
is an actual type of a shot. That's a It's
a good play on words there. I thought it's about
been doing this for two hundred and fourteen episodes.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Now I'm just busting your balls.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
That's well, Sam, It's good that you were on here
because I did want to talk to a Devil's fan
and someone who obviously is well and uh well in
endowed when it comes to the Devil's Yeah, obviously used
this past week. Uh one, Jack Hughes injury. You know
(07:16):
it happens obviously the team dinner ran by a barstool employee,
which or he was least invited, so immediately that was
probably a red flag. But obviously the cut hand out
six to eight weeks. It's it is a bad injury.
But my question to you is this a glasses half
(07:37):
full injury or glasses half empty injury?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Are you trying to be punny with me? You know
what I'm capable of, Dean.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I do know what you're capable of. You know, a
glasses you know?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
All right, I want to set the record here, all right.
Number one sources telling me that it's just a coincidence
that Frank the tank and and the Devils were at
the same restaurant at the same time. Yeah, and as
soon as news hit, it was kind of a great
(08:12):
wave for Barstool in their infinite wisdom to the public. Yeah,
the publicize that, So I think again that's that. I
don't think I wouldn't think that the New Jersey Devil's
organization would do something like this, like a team dinner
(08:35):
with bar with Barstool. Well on on on the WU report,
you know, when all this thing went down, and on
the morning WU, I was kind of I was actually
mad because originally, originally the way the press put it
out there, Yeah, well they didn't say knives. See, people
(08:57):
like to make stuff up on social media, one of
but you know, but people like to make stuff up
on social media. So everyone just assumed. And you know
what happens when you assume, you make an ash out
of you and me? Yeah, so that's yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, the hell goes. I'm pretty sure when you assume,
you make an asshole out of yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, make like a tree and get out of here.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah yeah, same same same phrase, yeah, same school of phrasing.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So you know, so when the story came out, it's
like you have to be careful because you're live live,
you're kind of like fifteen minutes after it broke, you're
you're talking about it. But some of the you know,
the stories, this is what I said on the podcast.
Well I didn't look about it. It was I don't
want to find out from reporters what actually happened. I
(09:50):
want to find out from the team itself. And it
was so vague. It's your typical uh, press release from
the PR people, you know, trying to you know whatever,
And it's like for something like this, I don't need
to know the medical details. I need to know what
(10:12):
exactly happened. Because what happens is you start to speculate.
Oh it was knives. Oh it was a plot that
pushed him into that glass. Who knows what it is,
all right.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It could be something so embarrassing that they don't want
everybody to know though.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Also, yeah, or he was drunk, okay. Ryan Novazinski, good
friend of the LESCo Devils podcast, NJ dot Com reporter.
I mean, this is what these reporters actually were doing.
They were calling Chicago Cut, you know, the restaurant, right, yeah,
you know, final, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I was saying, I quickly on that the Chicago Cut thing.
Apparently there's been a bunch of Devil's fans leaving reviews
of this place online, some you know, very good ones,
some not so nice ones, and just basically, you know,
fullaying this restaurant.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I saw that, and I don't, I do not condone
that I was telling you. I was telling I was,
I was. I said this on the Woo Report. Not
that I'm shameless plugging on Hockey on Tap, but I
said this on the Woo Report earlier. I said, first
off is bad juju. It's back karma. The hockey guys
will get us if we do something with it. Chicago
cut the restaurant. They got to eat too, no pun intended.
(11:30):
They got to make a living, all right. So you're
leaving these bad reviews. They may be funny on Yelp
and all that kind of stuff, but it actually hurts
their business and they it had nothing to do with whatever.
And you know, I again, just stay away from that stuff.
It's not good karma for the team. It's a bad look.
(11:50):
I totally agree. I I like to joke around, but
you know, right now, it's you know whatever. Secondly, when
Ryan Novazinski to think reporters are calling this restaurant, okay,
they're probably, oh, you got to be kidding me. You know,
when you're horsing around whatever. From a legal perspective, what
the hell do you think they're gonna tell you?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, Jack Hughes was uh you know, uh had eight
it was eight beers in and he just flew off
the table like a wrestler and uh and broke through
the They're not going to say anything anyway. Yeah, so
you know they said that Nope, there was nothing, no, no, no, nope, nope.
They're not going to give a report to lose their business.
(12:32):
They're not going to do that. So whatever happens to
stay in the room.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
They probably also don't want to tell you the exact
details to make Jack look bad, right, Like that's probably
they don't want to, you know, just shot on the sky.
You know, he he was goofing off and he did
this and this, and he got hurt himself. Like they
probably just want to keep as quiet as possible. Let
you know, other people tell you what happened, and that's
the kind.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Of the deal. So it's unfortunately, what actually did he do?
Do he just like slice off of part of his finger?
Did he like just cut his hand? Like what actually
like cut?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I'm sure I'm assuming he's severed tendons and he had surgery.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
On the sam I think you'd heard immediately, right.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I forget if you had heard what it was. But
what I had seen was he was leaning against a
piece of glass, whether it was a table or something.
The glass broke, his hand went through and his pinky
was what got cut. And I'm guessing it cut obviously
something more than just skin because he's out sixt eight
weeks head of surgery.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
So but it's just realized to the higher part of this,
you know, hand I don't think people realize how easy
it is to like severely damage your fingers with yes,
sharp objects. So it's not like it, you know, it
was like major impact. It could have just been, you know,
something like a freak accident where he wasn't in conversation
(13:47):
with somebody not looking, just goes to like put his
hand down the table, leans back, and it just happens
to be a glass there and then yeah, and the glass,
I mean, especially if it's your any of your fingers,
I mean, the tendons are literally right there and it
needs to be surgically repaired if you end up severing those.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
So it's well, apparently he could have been much worse too,
like he just missed having you know something where like
he either lost you know, ability to move you know,
different you know, functions of his hand, like it was
could have been really really bad and he got.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
The older he's still gonna be those surgeries. Those surgeries
are I mean, the healing process is the pain in
the ass and the the rehab to get everything going
back to the way that it was normally, and especially
for your hands, And I don't know, it's the I
think that I think you can actually the pinky's one
to lose. You know know that, I don't. I don't.
(14:39):
I don't know much details except for the fact that
it was a finger that was surgery is performed on. Yeah,
I don't know it's severity, but but I think that
didn't this or is that just on your foot, Like,
if you can lose a toe, it's the pinky toe.
But if you can lose a finger, no, is it
pink I.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Thought it was the opposite because of pinky toe actually
helps you to walk, like if you lose your.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Pink I think that's what they're saying, that the pinky
toe is easiest one to lose.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I read it the other way. Pinky toe, if you
haven't lobbed off, you actually can.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Be worth it. Google, let's have a look. This is
what we're researching on hockey on time you do your research.
That's the easiest toe.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
To lose.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I don't know how to fell toe.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, so you can walk without your pinky toel it
affects your balance and gait, making you.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Lose is likely the pinky toe. It contributes to the
least to the foots function.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Provide stability and access and out regular for your foot.
So losing it can make movement less efficient and may
require adjustments.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Well, I don't agree with your diagnostic because I mean
that's differently. Yeah, Google ay is telling me the pinky
toes because it contributes the least to the foots function,
and people can adapt to its loss with minimal long
term impact or walking or daily activities. It has minimal
functional impact. It provides some balance. People have lost or
(16:11):
were born without pinky tog and generally performed daily activities
in adapt but little long term difficulty.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
According according to Quora qu or here first, that website
is uh, it makes you less efficient. Steps will be
slightly smaller, and balance will be a little more difficult,
but you can walk. Hmm. Interesting, Yeah this is hockey
and tap by the way, all about hockey. Yeah, it
(16:41):
is just uh, it looks Look it's a shame because
obviously this kid continually gets the injury bug moniker. And
you know, obviously this might not have been his fault.
It's not something like you know, a soft tissue injury
where you know, he tears a hamstring or something that.
But it's the labels on there for good reason, and
(17:04):
it's just another ding to a very young promising career
that just seemed to be.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Time out here, time out here. Jack Hughes was drafted
in twenty nineteen. He had the unfortunate, you know, start
to his career where COVID hit shut downs protocols. He
had a really rough start to his you know, NHL career.
(17:32):
No pun intended because Lindy Ruff eventually became the coach. Uh,
you know again, I think some of it's validated, some
of it is not. This one is just a freak accident.
Could have happened to any of us. So to say that,
you know he's injury. Look, he is fragile. The shoulders
(17:53):
I'm worried about, but he seems like it's.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
The family's had. He's had pretty substantial injuries shoulder speakers,
and he's played. Yeah, I'm not mistaken, right, and this
is this is this is a freak accident. But I
feel like the ones who have, like I'll take somebody
Bo Bennett for example. I mean, everybody knows about Bo
Bennett's injuries. He's on social media all the time joking
about them. Yeah, he's pretty funny about it. But this
(18:16):
is exactly what like he dealt with. I'm pretty sure
he had. I think he had a Dan Boyle esque
injury swim where the skate like in the locker, the
skate fell on his wrist. Something along those lines. Is
just dumb bad luck. And hopefully Sam, this isn't you know.
You see a guy who just happens to just figure
(18:38):
out ways to injure himself on the regular, and then
you have this thrown in it. So it's just like
this bad luck karma of injuries that are just gonna
find this player. Hopefully it's not because he's still I mean,
he's still young, he's still got a long career ahead
of him. But young players who start this injured and
now just bad luck injuries on top of it, I
(19:01):
don't ever see them turn around and just like all
of a sudden, have some longevity. Unless anybody else can
figure out an example on the top of your head.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Here's the list of all the injuries he's had since
he entered the league where it required an injured reserve
stint twenty nineteen eleven thirty. This is just after Thanksgiving.
The lower body he went on IR twenty child he
was a child, hold on, hold on, We're just gonna
keep adding up here. Bud the day after New Year's
(19:31):
one two twenty twenty, the same season an upper body injury.
They actually thought that was the concussion. Next season twenty
twenty one was child shoulder. Then he had the COVID
health protocols. Then he had the knee. In twenty twenty two,
he had the upper body. In twenty three, he had
a shoulder in twenty three. He had an upper body
in twenty four. Both these thought, whoa just remember.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There were a couple cheap shots Seattle Kraken, but he
was a child.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Once you you get a concussion, you are more prone
to get more concussions.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I don't I can't see. I think Filipedo needs to
just like throw on the towel.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
This well, that's what we could talk about him. That guy.
I loved him, and he just his brain is scrambled
eggs and it just can't be continually like someone in
his own family or in his inner circle needs to
be like you're gonna kill yourself, right, like you can't
it just after a while. I know, concussion syndrome. It
(20:31):
sucks ass. It's one of the worst things that I've
dealt with that I've seen other people deal with. And
you can't continue to subject yourself to these big, rocking hits.
You know, guys like Tom Wilson will always be predators.
And he went out and had a predatory hit on
a kid that was wasn't paying attention a but also
shouldn't have been playing because his head's so fragile. And
(20:53):
that's just one of those things, you know. So listen,
twenty twenty four he had dubber body to they thought,
you know, concussions. He had the shoulder and twenty five
another finger in twenty five.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Like it.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
It's it sucks because Jack Hughes as an American fan.
I want him in the Olympics doing well because he.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
As a hockey fan. You want him playing.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, he gives us a better chance to win. Yeah,
And it's fun to beat the devils with Hughes in
the lineup. It is as a ranger fan, I don't
want to I hate him because he's a devil, but
it's still fun to play against someone like that, who
who is so dynamic. You know, it's like Crosby. I
hated him in the beginning. Now as I get older,
you know, I'm respecting the guys awesome, But like you
(21:33):
can still hate the player in the moment and and
but want this guy to be there for his team
because it makes it that much more fun for ice hockey.
But yeah, it just it sucks because he gets this
moniker now and and it's hard to shake that kind
of thing as you continually get more and more injuries
like this, as it piles up, whether it's fluke or not.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, the fluke just kind of adds fuel to the
fire with this injury stuff, because that's what I that's like.
I'm for the example gave was Bo Bennett, and he's
just like, somehow these guys just find ways to be injured,
even if it's like freak accidents.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But hopefully back now, keep having well.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Hopefully he comes back and you know, there's nothing else
for the rest of the season. I can't say that
was confidence, but hopefully, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
And they're gonna They're obviously gonna put him on on
Team USA. They'll they can put him at him onto
the roster, that's not a problem. He can go in
late or he can do whatever he wants. Right, He'll
he will make Team USA. I don't think any Devil's
fan has to worry about that in any USA fan,
he'll make that team and if he can play, they'll
get him in there. If he can't play, then he won't.
I mean, that's just kind of be gonna be how
(22:42):
it is, all right, So there's other pretty good spot. Yeah,
probably probably he's doing pretty well too, which is crazy.
Speaking of before, we had talked about some money, but
Adrian Kempe signed an eight year, eighty five million contract
with the Kings. Obviously, you know, ten point six whatever
(23:06):
is prettyft the amount. I'm not sure he's totally worth that,
But listen, you got played, and we want players to
get paid. But if you look now at the free
agents remaining in twenty twenty six, this might be the
worst for agency season we've ever experienced. And we've had
some bad ones where you hope all this stuff happens
and nothing happens. But here's the next notable list our.
(23:29):
Timmy Panarin is the best player of Vechkin. He's not,
you know, leaving Carlson is not leaving John Carlson. That
is Honors Lee Off Guinea Malkin also not leaving, probably
Alex Tuck, Serge Bobrovski probably not leaving Patrick Leone, Jacob Truba,
Ryan McDonough, Nick Schmaltz, and Rasam Sanderson are the top ten.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Say probably he'll be I think he'll probably be signed.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, but how how bad lest somebody backs up a
dump truck full of money?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I think he would. I think he would resign. I
think he I don't even think he's gonna make it
to free agency. I think he's going to resign.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean he started out. If you con
like his hot streak, I think he'd have like throughout
the whole season.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean he'd have a huge payday, Yeah, a huge
But he's still he's still pretty a pretty important player
to that roster. Yeah, and I mean he wasn't. We
all knew he wasn't going to keep that up. Yeah,
but there's no way he's still I mean, he's still
an impact player and he's still a very important player
to that team. And I think he does well with
the young roster. So, I mean, even if it's like
(24:34):
a shorter term, they're not going to sign him to
like an eight year contract or anything. But I can
see them sign him to like a shorter term contract,
and I can see him wanting to stay too. He's
been there for quite some time now and had success.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Yeah, he has, he's he's been really good.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's like the biggest names. The biggest name is going
to be Patrick lyone, and it's just somebody is going
to grossly overplay.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
What's restricted free agent market.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Like maybe they're I'm still waiting for these still waiting
for these offer sheets. But it's it depends, It depends,
Sam because the amount of compensation you have to give
for one of these offer sheets. I mean Saint Louis
made out okay, because Holloway and Broberg they weren't. I
(25:21):
mean it's the it's the term or is it the
money or what is it? How do they base the compensation.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Off of It's based off money, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
The size of so the size of the contract basically
is the compensation. But you're looking at some of these
guys that are restricted free agents that could get you know,
just for example, a ten ten million dollar contract you're
handing away. Was it three first round picks or four?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think it's I think ten.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Are It's it's ridiculous and it's stupid that that is
still twenty thirty one.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
No, you have to you have to give up this
year's pick. All right, So anything over eleven points, anything
over eleven point seven is four firsts. In between nine
point three million to eleven seven is two firsts, a
second and a third. Seven to nine and a half
is one first, one second, one third. If you give
a player between four yeah, if you give a player
(26:23):
in between four point five million and seven million, you
owe them a first.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And a third.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's still a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, here's your free agents. And I could see one
player making that ten million mark, and that's Jason Robertson.
He's the top RFA. Trevior Zegris is up there, Philip Broberg,
Connor Badard for.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
A pretty good contract. Secrets Yeah, uh, Connor.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Bodard is a RFAU. Leo Carlson, Simon Nimich, Mattias Micheli,
JJ Moser, Kirby, Doc Fettov, Profetti, Fantilly, Baron Hayton, Jamie Drysdale,
Dylan Holloway, Cylinger, Schneider, Chinakov, contract, Michael your check cutter gotier.
(27:12):
Now some of these are you know, your first start RFA.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So you don't.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
It's it's a lot harder to get someone on a
ELC on those or sorry, get someone on a a
contract on those, the ones that are just expiring el C's.
But some of these other guys you've been here longer.
It's like Nick Robertson would be a prime example of
a guy you could uh sutt an offer sheheet to
Zach Benson's.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Crazy yeah final, because the contract was he he was,
I mean, he was in line for a major payday
and it seemed like he he took a shorter term
contract to cash in more later. And I think it's
gonna work against him. Don't think he's going to get
as much or gonna get as much, not as much
(27:56):
as he would have was it three years ago now?
He would think when he was a yeah, it was
a two two consecutive seasons of forty goals.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
He's I still think he's getting eight years and uh,
probably close to ten. I think it's close. It's got
to be close to the the same deal that what's
his name just got with the Kings.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Can Dallas afford that?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I don't know, Maybe it's the equivalent, I should say,
because obviously CAP in La is different than CAP in Dallas.
There's no cap no no tax, no tax. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah,
I think he gets paid a ship ton. I like
him a lot. Yeah, was talking about Paner in his
(28:41):
bald head. Here is quickly because obviously our Timmy Panerin
one of the free agents we RFA. We are sorry
free agents we just talked about. Here are his stats
and it's I think this is pretty good. Uh, with hair,
fourteen games played, two goals, five assists, a minus five rating.
(29:03):
Without hair, bald shaven four games, three goals, six assists,
nine points, plus four rating. So he should stay bald.
And really they should shave all the Rangers heads. I
think that would be a fantastic idea.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
When they're at home.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Wait, there's just.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Altogether they can score goals at home? Yeah, they cannot.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And we we talked about this on you know, our
our our text thread with the Lessel Devils guys. But
those jerseys, that view of the game between Detroit and
Rangers yesterday where they wore their one hundred year anniversary jerseys,
both teams, both colors, the red Ye trows wearing red,
Rangers wearing that light blue. They have to do this
(29:43):
more often, and I understand there's not you know, you
can't put you know, Penguins and Boston in the same
colored jerseys.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Right, that just won't work. What does black and the
other does yellow or something like that? Just yeah, you
could do that, but like, but that would the yellow
is not a traditional home, is what I'm saying. Right,
that's more of a third jersey. You could do that,
but I'm saying traditional homes traditional homes. You could do
other you know, you could do the Penguins that you know,
(30:11):
wearing black and the Rangers wearing blue. You could, and
maybe it's a little off a little bit, but there's
that's where you should see more of that same thing
happen in other games where there's you know a little
more discrepancy with the jerseys. So but yeah, that the
photo of everybody on the ice at the you know
there's benches, not benches clearing because this game over, but
kind of a large gathering of players and you know,
(30:35):
you have I think it was Edmund's, uh, a couple
of players from the Rangers on the on the on
the ice and guys just like jam in their those
old school gloves, the that like old school leather gloves
into like players faces. Completely loved that scene and I
thought it was.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I gotta say, though, if the reason for that brawl
was simply because the puck was shot into an empty net,
that is the dumbest reason for a bench clearing brawl
I've ever seen in my entire life. Ever.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
People stupid goalies hate that though, all goalies hate.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
But it was an empty net. It was an empty net,
but it wasn't on a goalie. It was after the buzzer.
The game was over.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
If you're You're Howitzer and the goalies in net and
the and the period's over, the game. Yeah, okay, I
understand if.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
You're shooting it at somebody, there's literally nobody in the net,
and he's just like coasting in there. The horn goes
off and he just like he doesn't hammer it into
the empty net, He just kind of like deposits it there,
and then everybody dumbest. That's the dumbest thing ever heard.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It is dumb, But it's it's one of those things
that it.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Wasn't even in the net. And even if it's like
if that, if the buzzer didn't go off, it's not
his stat like, it does not a blemish on his record.
No matter how you want to frame.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
It, you should be suspended.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Listen, it was. It was one of those things where
he was probably frustrated how the game went, and that
was just.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
An NHL Rules seventy automatic ten game suspension for the
first player who leaves the players or penalty bench to
start an altercation. Quick.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, but that's during play.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
That's so you're saying that once the buzzer hits, you
can you can clear the benches and brawl, and.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
They should do that. I think that'd be more entertaining,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The then that's the loophole. Then that's the loophole.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
It has happened before. I mean, you see scrums after
the game is when they're like, you know, all the
players are kind of getting on the rink and then
you see like but no, I mean that one was
like a pile. Yeah, so that you don't see, you know,
too often, but you will see like altercations after the
game ends when everybody's because that's what happens. The buzzer
goes off, everybody gut jumps onto the ice, So after
the I guess it's difficult to uh to say that,
(33:02):
but I can't think of I mean, I think of
I think it was Eric Goddard jumped the bench for
the Penguins. I don't I don't know that, but this is.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
David Clarks, I think, David. But we're talking about a
bench clear It's been a very long time, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean I.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Remember Devil's Rangers in the in the playoffs in early nineties.
It was a bench clearing brawl.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That was probably the last time was because I think.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
That's what stopped it all. You know, Scott Stevens. I
think you think he threw somebody into the penal, uh
into the bench or so it was. It was wild.
I think it took like eight ten minutes for that year.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Was it when the well year was? When the coach
through the through the bench on the ice.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, and it almost it almost hit raf head the Yeah,
it just barely cleared its head. That was one of
the questions I think I asked him when we interviewed
Brianal It's like, yah, did you know that? If you're
any taller? So, But I mean for me personally, I'm
(34:21):
probably in the minority here. But I missed those days.
I really missed the drama those days, the bench clearing.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I miss parts of parts of those days. I don't
miss like third and fourth liners being utterly useless besides
the stage.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, age fights.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I'm not a fan of ste some of those in
a while. Yeah we haven't. Yeah, but some of those
lines back in like the nineties and those fourth line
plugs was literally just three goons waiting to just have
their time in.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
The same was the third line was. The third line
is where you hit your penalty killers. The fourth line
and you know, barely made it on the ice unless
they were gonna fight somebody, and then you just rolled
your top two lines and that was it.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
The Rangers had some really bad goons. I'm not saying,
but I can remember the Devils specifically Turner Stevenson might
have been the worst hockey player I had ever seen
in my life, and all he did was throw knocks
and it was I just those players that were just
on that four of those fourth lines during that speriod
was so so much fun. Yeah, that's that was hockey
(35:28):
back in the good old days.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
All right.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
So let's get to a couple of things. We've been
chatting a little bit about some bs, which is we're
always good for this.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Do we want to talk about feet again?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, we can talk about we'll probably get more uh yeah,
more followers. You know, Kirby a couple of injuries because
we were talking about that before. But uh, Kirby dock
out four to six weeks. But then did you did
you see the injury to I'm not kerfoot also in
the habs oh man? Uh new hook? Did you see
(36:05):
no new hook? Did you see his injury kind of
you know, collided with skates heading into the boards and
his foot was gumby. It was just bent off the side.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
He had no ankle.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
And it's one of those.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Pretty pretty gross. And uh, you know Nick Felino's out.
I'm sorry, Yeah it was Nick Fillino or was it? Yeah?
It was Fillino's out for it a couple of weeks
with the hand dur injury for he broke some bones
in his hand. H McAvoy getting hitting them out with
the puck. Do you see that where his tooth just
flies out after he gets hit. Yeah, just a lot
of injuries too.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
What was that? Do you see his face cut like emlily?
You see his tooth fine and you see the.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Cash on his face? Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I didn't want to see that. Yeah, no, boy, Now.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Let's do our favor our fun stats things, because it's
always a good time to go through. Obviously, Nate Dogg
with thirty three points in nineteen games, he is a
beast plus nineteen. McDavid out of the doldrums now with
thirty points, Celebrainy twenty seven, Badard twenty six, Carlson twenty six,
and you know, the three kids are still standing in there.
(37:20):
Connor Bandard, it's it is good to see him doing well.
We do like him as a player. We don't like
the team he's on, but you know, it's good to
see a number one overall pick, you know, living lit
up to the hype. Yeah yeah, Ken mccarr leading all
defenseman points with twenty five.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And what else did you see as a d Morrissey
was doing pretty well nineteen points in sixteen games. Uh.
Let's do our our our fabulous plus minus. Obviously, Nate Dogg, mccarr,
Leacanon neckass top four plus minus. We do have a
new champion, shrim so shrim Seeing this, I guess it's
(38:02):
actually a tie for for champion with Mackenzie Wieger at
minus sixteen, who is the other minus sixteen player in
the league.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Is it? Is it a lightning?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
It is not.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
It is a Edmonton oiler. Someone I thought was going
to get fifty goals this season.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well for somebody on the lightning is pretty close, but
not at there's a close lightning Is a himen Yeah, no,
it's manic.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah, minus sixteen.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I freaking love it, uh, Stephen.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
One tonight lightning is is minus.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Twelve, which Tampa is.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
It is a Kushrov No on the same line though,
same limit, Yeah, point, yep, yep, minus twelve.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's another minus two.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Last night there was a stat It was talked about
expected goals and then how which they have actually, you know,
achieved those expected goals. Of all the lines that have
played at least one hundred minutes with each other, Tampa's
line of Point, Kucharov and Genzol was the fifth worst
(39:15):
in the hockey in the NHL. It's pretty bad in
terms of expected goals and goals produced. He's extremely snake
bit right now, brain points snake bit right now. And
Genseil's producing. Genseil on that line is probably right now
the only one really producing. Kutrov yeah a little bit,
but not like he normally does. And Point is just
like completely not doing anything right now and turn for laugh.
(39:40):
You been really well you could.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Tampa's power play is a freaking abysmal. So it's that's
not helping this situation either.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
So it's this scrims tap a minute as usual.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
It sucks. I can go off on these last two
games that they just played. Oh, I know you can, uh, Sam.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
One other thing, I didn't want to talk to you
because I did see your You had a report about
Larry book Brooks, who passed away earlier this It was
early in the weekend before the weekend of cancer. And
you know, I'm someone you know obviously I followed the
Rangers beat and he had taken a leave of absence,
especially from his podcast, to kind of deal with what
he was dealing with. And he passes. But a pretty
(40:23):
good number of hockey tributes from from Steve Levy and
John Tortorella, and you know, Molly Walker with with the
Post and a couple other people, my Mike Lupica and
a bunch of other people. But someone who meant a
lot to journalism and reporting. And I know he had
obviously the beefs with you know, whether it be Dan
Boyle or John Tortorella or different players. He was one
(40:46):
of those guys that always was there the next day,
ready to ask more questions and stand by what he
wrote and what he said. And I think players kind
of respected that for the most part. But yeah, I
heard what you said. You know, some good words from
from yourself. Obviously he was the devils for a little
while in their pr right public relations.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah, communications, VP and communications. I actually I met him
twenty twelve Stanley Cup Finals in the press box and
one thing I noticed. The first thing I noticed was
when he typed on his laptop, it was almost like
he was typing on a typewriter. So he's like totally
(41:27):
old school journalist, two fingers just like that. And he
knew that he was going to be typing something brilliant.
And but you know, he has his he had this
reputation right, So when Nick Volano got him on the
podcast the first time around, I was so nervous, Like,
(41:48):
I was so nervous not to screw it up. I
hadn't been that nervous since Cam Jansen getting him on
the phone lines and patching him in. And on top
of that, I was down in Florida at my parents' house.
So it was a little tricky because you know, you're
away from the studio, you're you're not familiar for your surroundings.
(42:09):
And as soon as I call them, and I'm like,
should I call him mister Brooks? Should I call him Lawrence? Larry?
You know?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
But he was he was.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
He was so nice over the phone, a little short,
but nice. But when we got him on the second
time around, it was he he was just a nice guy.
And you know, and I've told this story before because
him and Torts, you know, they would you know, they
were you know, the press conferences were entertaining, and you know,
(42:45):
and I thought maybe Torts was the same way. But
he's a completely different person like almost like that persona
that he has as the you know, as this hockey coach,
but the Tortorella as the man is a totally different guy.
And when it didn't surprise me when Steve Levy and
(43:08):
Tortorella talked about Larry Brooks what Tortorella said, it didn't
surprise me that he had nothing but kind words, you know,
and he put things into perspective. Yeah, you know, they
didn't agree on a lot, but you know, and I love.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Every every time they would speak, it'd be like, Tortrell
is the kind of guy. He's like in the moment,
and anytime they would speak, it'd be like he'd be,
you know, in that moment of whatever just happened or
whatever just transpired. But like when he's like in the
intermission of a game or something and talking to Steve
Levi or I actually really like him as a as
an analyst. Just being able to the way you feel
(43:48):
like he can express everything. I think he does actually
a really good job. So yeah, I just want to.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, I mean, Tortorella is a real deal. Like he's good,
he's not He's very transparent, he's a very matter of fact,
and I think it's refreshing. But you know, well, Larry Brooks,
you know, yeah, I'm gonna obviously miss a lot of
the slap shots in the New York Post. I always
(44:16):
look forward to that.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
And you know, he told us a Lola Morella story
because he's got he had so many of them.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
He's gonna have so many stories.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, he told us. He told us on air that
one day lou Morell went to his desk and he
just puts down a dollar. What was this for the
shave Shave, And then another good read was Larry Brooks
(44:56):
how he handled that? Have another donut?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, with uh.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Was the referee and.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Jim Schaumpfeld, you know, yeah, just how he handled that.
I mean, I mean there were judges involved, there were
actually restraining orders and judges and then replacement referees. You know,
I think there's still around. There's three referees that refer again,
(45:28):
I gotta get them on the podcast. They must be
really up there in age.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
Yeah, obviously, you know, it's a big hole for for
the the reporting and you know journalism community. So I
just wanted to throw that out there. But we'll do
standings and we'll get out of here quickly. Boston actually
number one in the Atlantic right now. I don't think
anyone had that on their cards. Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa as
(46:01):
the top four. If if someone gave you that top
four in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Of the year with Tampa, Toronto, Floriado.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yeah, as as the next three after that, I think
we would all be in a shocked metro the debs.
But actually, you know, they're doing pretty well and we'll
see who's kind of steps up in the wake of
Jack Hughes being out Hurricanes, Penguins, Islanders Rangers. Flyers Rangers
are nine to one and one away. One's seven and
(46:31):
one at home and our seven and three in their
last ten. They have actually the best record in the
last I think it was three weeks, so amazing. Uh,
Colorado sits number one in the central, Dallas Jets, Blackhawks,
and then Pacific. You got Kings, Ducks, Kracking and the Knights,
any teams kind of.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
You know, Can I just give it. I'm just gonna
give it first. I'm just gonna give a quick stat.
Oh yeah, and the Kings are I think no, I
think it's two to one. Now, one quick stat. Piggybacking
off of I think it was two two pocket because
that wasn't the last podcast one before that. Power plays numbers, Okay,
Can I just say the Pittsburgh Penguins still currently have
(47:14):
the lowest power play to game ratio that there is.
They just played in Nashville and Sweden and were out
power played for nothing in a game that they won
three nothing. But that being said, they so Minnesota leads
the league in power play opportunities in they've played one
more game Minnesota's played twenty Pittsburgh has played nineteen. They
(47:38):
have thirty four more power plays than the Penguins two
in one extra game, thirty four more power plays. And
once again Sam piggybacking again, I think the Devils are
they might be third lowest, fourth lowest, so they're still there.
Columbus was so Columbus had forty three power play opportunity,
(48:00):
Pittsburgh had forty four, but Columbus played one fewer games
which they're playing now. I don't know if they've had
a power play here. But once again, the Metro, I
think all the Metro teams are in the bottom eight,
maybe ten in the league for power plays in favor
And I honestly I can't figure out why the Pittsburgh thing.
Maybe is a rookie coach and the refs just aren't
(48:21):
given them any favors. But I don't know how. It's
the entire division just doesn't draw, doesn't draw penalties. Apparently
Columbus has one power play tonight so far. All right,
so they're currently tied with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Pretty impressive couple things. Will Sam gets gets ready to
do some music.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Thirty four thirty four more power play opportunities and one
extra game. That is insanity. And we're only to a
quarter the season in Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I want to know what Steve.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
I think Crosby stopped diving and they didn't no longer
getting these Yeah, that's gotta be it. Uh, Sam, you
can hit the music that Depko obviously back from injury.
Shane Pinto got the new deal as well, and they
were talking about it. The the rank in Milan for
the Olympics might not be ready in time, which would
(49:14):
be very very funny, and they have to figure out
what what to do if if that happens.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Yeah, these Olympics are always a crap shoot.
Speaker 5 (49:25):
Fizzing whizzbles.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
Solid three, very good.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
My gin's solid four. It is very very botanical, very strong.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
And Dogfish is fantastic. Oh you got general George. Yeah,
that one's good, pretty good. Five Sam, Sam gets a
five all the time for this that those are so good.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
No, it's ten, ten, doubling the scale.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
Out of five. Shrim take her home.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
In the words of mister Elijah Price, they call me
mister Glass.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Right, Yeah, that's boy.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Come by yards him him, come me closer to me.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
I know you have as
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Hmm, so I make this int
Yeah, yeah, lie By, Yeah, lie you got.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Y ye save.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Comfort you buy by Ills?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Did you buck now.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
By?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I don't liar bag.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Welcome to Hockey Top Podcast, Episode two fourteen. Stay glassy.
I'm your host, Bill Ding. I'm here with my two
co hosts and a special guest. We got Steve Shwim
and mister Sam. Who's behind the glass tonight? Still, I
mean it's still a little out of my ear, he says. He's, uh,
you know, doing everything to make this seamless.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But who's number one? I'm showing you who's number one
right now?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Number one? Great fit out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Uh.
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(01:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:47):
Hell you doing, Dean, I have a come here.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Come here. This This kid is uh just telling me
from the other room that he has to go peep
so lovely. Yeah, yeah, say hi.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
If you want, if you want to go on Live
are you know?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, you can go and you can go.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Just have a peanut bottle and live here.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
We can't quick, I'll go. Here's what we're drinking. I'm
drinking fizzyble uh fizzing wizzy bowls by blero snort. It
is a Sherbert pop candy sour. I will try that
in two minutes. I have to go and bring this
kid to the bathroom real fast. It is a start,
great start to this podcast. So you guys take it
for two seconds. I will be right back.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
All right, swim you want me to go? I have
I have two drinks. You want to go and then
I'll do my two?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Sure? What what the hell I'm going? I'm still drinking
gin this time. I went and I got dogfish compelling gin.
This is normally better in like a cocktail, but I'm
gonna drink it straight tonight. No, that sounds compelling gen No.
I guess they distill it with juniper berry's orange peel,
lemon and lime peel, cinnamon, green cardamom, coriandersy kafir lion leaves.
(03:02):
This is like so intensely botanical. But I'm gonna drink it.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Straight out of the bottle or in a glass.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, i'll put it. I'll do use some ice maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
All right? All right? So I have two things here.
I have what I'm drinking, which I went up to
the Old Mill today. I got myself some cider.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Bert.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Oh did you actually go and get it?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
No time for that.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So this is a black cherry and vanilla cider, which
I think I had there when we went there. I
think I had this one. It's called General George. And
then my other beverage that I'm not drinking. But so
Esta and I had a bet over the weekend the
Tampa Florida game, and I profoundly thought Tampa was going
(03:54):
to suck because they're missing seven regular players. And Steven's like,
I hope they win, and I'm like, all right, I'll
but you drink that they do of my choosing. And
so I lost the bet because Tampa somehow beat Florida.
And uh so I got Stephen a bottle of Italian gin.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Okay, that's Italian, yep, oh, there it is. I am
excited to try Italian Italy.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So this is a.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
A beverage one slash birthday gift for your upcoming birth
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I will Oh yeah, I forgot that's coming up. I
will begrudgingly drink here Italian gin.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You'll finally have some Italian in you.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And you know that ain't the truth.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I took I took Dean off.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I noticed can't come back at all.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I muted him too. You know, so you can
watch this podcast. You know I'm drinking where we make
winning memories together, one career at a time.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Did they release more this season?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
There's a new batch released. It's the distribution that I'm
concerned about. But yeah, just just give me a couple
of weeks to figure this in. It is so stupid,
it's yeah, I'll tell you off air. Should we let
back Billy Dean back on?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Sure, let's let him back on. Do we know if
he's back?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh, there he is.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
We'll let the We'll let the host back in.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Why not yet?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Guarenting it's one of the fun joys in life, potty training,
especially when your kid doesn't want to go to bed
when you supposed to. Uh yeah, so I'm sure you
guys are not your beers and all the fun stuff
that goes with that.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I'm drinking.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Oh yeah, that's true. This is number seven?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Is it seven?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I can't be seven, Hendricks, you're at six three? Uh yeah, yeah,
I think this is a six. See it is?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
No which one?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You can't get wrong with that one. All right, let's
go to so that for days today's episode, here's a
weekly snapshot. Uh there was some what.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Honey shot?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You don't like?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
What the hell is a weekly snapshot?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Well, like a snapshot of what's happening in the league,
A snapshot a photo snapshot, but a snapshot in hockey
is an actual type of a shot. That's a It's
a good play on words there. I thought it's about
been doing this for two hundred and fourteen episodes.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Now I'm just busting your balls.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
That's well, Sam, It's good that you were on here
because I did want to talk to a Devil's fan
and someone who obviously is well and uh well in
endowed when it comes to the Devil's Yeah, obviously used
this past week. Uh one, Jack Hughes injury. You know
(07:16):
it happens obviously the team dinner ran by a barstool employee,
which or he was least invited, so immediately that was
probably a red flag. But obviously the cut hand out
six to eight weeks. It's it is a bad injury.
But my question to you is this a glasses half
(07:37):
full injury or glasses half empty injury?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Are you trying to be punny with me? You know
what I'm capable of, Dean.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I do know what you're capable of. You know, a
glasses you know?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
All right, I want to set the record here, all right.
Number one sources telling me that it's just a coincidence
that Frank the tank and and the Devils were at
the same restaurant at the same time. Yeah, and as
soon as news hit, it was kind of a great
(08:12):
wave for Barstool in their infinite wisdom to the public. Yeah,
the publicize that, So I think again that's that. I
don't think I wouldn't think that the New Jersey Devil's
organization would do something like this, like a team dinner
(08:35):
with bar with Barstool. Well on on on the WU report,
you know, when all this thing went down, and on
the morning WU, I was kind of I was actually
mad because originally, originally the way the press put it
out there, Yeah, well they didn't say knives. See, people
(08:57):
like to make stuff up on social media, one of
but you know, but people like to make stuff up
on social media. So everyone just assumed. And you know
what happens when you assume, you make an ash out
of you and me? Yeah, so that's yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, the hell goes. I'm pretty sure when you assume,
you make an asshole out of yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, make like a tree and get out of here.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah yeah, same same same phrase, yeah, same school of phrasing.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
So you know, so when the story came out, it's
like you have to be careful because you're live live,
you're kind of like fifteen minutes after it broke, you're
you're talking about it. But some of the you know,
the stories, this is what I said on the podcast.
Well I didn't look about it. It was I don't
want to find out from reporters what actually happened. I
(09:50):
want to find out from the team itself. And it
was so vague. It's your typical uh, press release from
the PR people, you know, trying to you know whatever,
And it's like for something like this, I don't need
to know the medical details. I need to know what
(10:12):
exactly happened. Because what happens is you start to speculate.
Oh it was knives. Oh it was a plot that
pushed him into that glass. Who knows what it is,
all right.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It could be something so embarrassing that they don't want
everybody to know though.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Also, yeah, or he was drunk, okay. Ryan Novazinski, good
friend of the LESCo Devils podcast, NJ dot Com reporter.
I mean, this is what these reporters actually were doing.
They were calling Chicago Cut, you know, the restaurant, right, yeah,
you know, final, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I was saying, I quickly on that the Chicago Cut thing.
Apparently there's been a bunch of Devil's fans leaving reviews
of this place online, some you know, very good ones,
some not so nice ones, and just basically, you know,
fullaying this restaurant.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I saw that, and I don't, I do not condone
that I was telling you. I was telling I was,
I was. I said this on the Woo Report. Not
that I'm shameless plugging on Hockey on Tap, but I
said this on the Woo Report earlier. I said, first
off is bad juju. It's back karma. The hockey guys
will get us if we do something with it. Chicago
cut the restaurant. They got to eat too, no pun intended.
(11:30):
They got to make a living, all right. So you're
leaving these bad reviews. They may be funny on Yelp
and all that kind of stuff, but it actually hurts
their business and they it had nothing to do with whatever.
And you know, I again, just stay away from that stuff.
It's not good karma for the team. It's a bad look.
(11:50):
I totally agree. I I like to joke around, but
you know, right now, it's you know whatever. Secondly, when
Ryan Novazinski to think reporters are calling this restaurant, okay,
they're probably, oh, you got to be kidding me. You know,
when you're horsing around whatever. From a legal perspective, what
the hell do you think they're gonna tell you?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, Jack Hughes was uh you know, uh had eight
it was eight beers in and he just flew off
the table like a wrestler and uh and broke through
the They're not going to say anything anyway. Yeah, so
you know they said that Nope, there was nothing, no, no, no, nope, nope.
They're not going to give a report to lose their business.
(12:32):
They're not going to do that. So whatever happens to
stay in the room.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
They probably also don't want to tell you the exact
details to make Jack look bad, right, Like that's probably
they don't want to, you know, just shot on the sky.
You know, he he was goofing off and he did
this and this, and he got hurt himself. Like they
probably just want to keep as quiet as possible. Let
you know, other people tell you what happened, and that's
the kind.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Of the deal. So it's unfortunately, what actually did he do?
Do he just like slice off of part of his finger?
Did he like just cut his hand? Like what actually
like cut?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I'm sure I'm assuming he's severed tendons and he had surgery.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
On the sam I think you'd heard immediately, right.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I forget if you had heard what it was. But
what I had seen was he was leaning against a
piece of glass, whether it was a table or something.
The glass broke, his hand went through and his pinky
was what got cut. And I'm guessing it cut obviously
something more than just skin because he's out sixt eight
weeks head of surgery.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
So but it's just realized to the higher part of this,
you know, hand I don't think people realize how easy
it is to like severely damage your fingers with yes,
sharp objects. So it's not like it, you know, it
was like major impact. It could have just been, you know,
something like a freak accident where he wasn't in conversation
(13:47):
with somebody not looking, just goes to like put his
hand down the table, leans back, and it just happens
to be a glass there and then yeah, and the glass,
I mean, especially if it's your any of your fingers,
I mean, the tendons are literally right there and it
needs to be surgically repaired if you end up severing those.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
So it's well, apparently he could have been much worse too,
like he just missed having you know something where like
he either lost you know, ability to move you know,
different you know, functions of his hand, like it was
could have been really really bad and he got.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
The older he's still gonna be those surgeries. Those surgeries
are I mean, the healing process is the pain in
the ass and the the rehab to get everything going
back to the way that it was normally, and especially
for your hands, And I don't know, it's the I
think that I think you can actually the pinky's one
to lose. You know know that, I don't. I don't.
(14:39):
I don't know much details except for the fact that
it was a finger that was surgery is performed on. Yeah,
I don't know it's severity, but but I think that
didn't this or is that just on your foot, Like,
if you can lose a toe, it's the pinky toe.
But if you can lose a finger, no, is it
pink I.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Thought it was the opposite because of pinky toe actually
helps you to walk, like if you lose your.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Pink I think that's what they're saying, that the pinky
toe is easiest one to lose.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I read it the other way. Pinky toe, if you
haven't lobbed off, you actually can.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Be worth it. Google, let's have a look. This is
what we're researching on hockey on time you do your research.
That's the easiest toe.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
To lose.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I don't know how to fell toe.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, so you can walk without your pinky toel it
affects your balance and gait, making you.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Lose is likely the pinky toe. It contributes to the
least to the foots function.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Provide stability and access and out regular for your foot.
So losing it can make movement less efficient and may
require adjustments.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Well, I don't agree with your diagnostic because I mean
that's differently. Yeah, Google ay is telling me the pinky
toes because it contributes the least to the foots function,
and people can adapt to its loss with minimal long
term impact or walking or daily activities. It has minimal
functional impact. It provides some balance. People have lost or
(16:11):
were born without pinky tog and generally performed daily activities
in adapt but little long term difficulty.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
According according to Quora qu or here first, that website
is uh, it makes you less efficient. Steps will be
slightly smaller, and balance will be a little more difficult,
but you can walk. Hmm. Interesting, Yeah this is hockey
and tap by the way, all about hockey. Yeah, it
(16:41):
is just uh, it looks Look it's a shame because
obviously this kid continually gets the injury bug moniker. And
you know, obviously this might not have been his fault.
It's not something like you know, a soft tissue injury
where you know, he tears a hamstring or something that.
But it's the labels on there for good reason, and
(17:04):
it's just another ding to a very young promising career
that just seemed to be.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Time out here, time out here. Jack Hughes was drafted
in twenty nineteen. He had the unfortunate, you know, start
to his career where COVID hit shut downs protocols. He
had a really rough start to his you know, NHL career.
(17:32):
No pun intended because Lindy Ruff eventually became the coach. Uh,
you know again, I think some of it's validated, some
of it is not. This one is just a freak accident.
Could have happened to any of us. So to say that,
you know he's injury. Look, he is fragile. The shoulders
(17:53):
I'm worried about, but he seems like it's.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
The family's had. He's had pretty substantial injuries shoulder speakers,
and he's played. Yeah, I'm not mistaken, right, and this
is this is this is a freak accident. But I
feel like the ones who have, like I'll take somebody
Bo Bennett for example. I mean, everybody knows about Bo
Bennett's injuries. He's on social media all the time joking
about them. Yeah, he's pretty funny about it. But this
(18:16):
is exactly what like he dealt with. I'm pretty sure
he had. I think he had a Dan Boyle esque
injury swim where the skate like in the locker, the
skate fell on his wrist. Something along those lines. Is
just dumb bad luck. And hopefully Sam, this isn't you know.
You see a guy who just happens to just figure
(18:38):
out ways to injure himself on the regular, and then
you have this thrown in it. So it's just like
this bad luck karma of injuries that are just gonna
find this player. Hopefully it's not because he's still I mean,
he's still young, he's still got a long career ahead
of him. But young players who start this injured and
now just bad luck injuries on top of it, I
(19:01):
don't ever see them turn around and just like all
of a sudden, have some longevity. Unless anybody else can
figure out an example on the top of your head.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Here's the list of all the injuries he's had since
he entered the league where it required an injured reserve
stint twenty nineteen eleven thirty. This is just after Thanksgiving.
The lower body he went on IR twenty child he
was a child, hold on, hold on, We're just gonna
keep adding up here. Bud the day after New Year's
(19:31):
one two twenty twenty, the same season an upper body injury.
They actually thought that was the concussion. Next season twenty
twenty one was child shoulder. Then he had the COVID
health protocols. Then he had the knee. In twenty twenty two,
he had the upper body. In twenty three, he had
a shoulder in twenty three. He had an upper body
in twenty four. Both these thought, whoa just remember.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There were a couple cheap shots Seattle Kraken, but he
was a child.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Once you you get a concussion, you are more prone
to get more concussions.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I don't I can't see. I think Filipedo needs to
just like throw on the towel.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
This well, that's what we could talk about him. That guy.
I loved him, and he just his brain is scrambled
eggs and it just can't be continually like someone in
his own family or in his inner circle needs to
be like you're gonna kill yourself, right, like you can't
it just after a while. I know, concussion syndrome. It
(20:31):
sucks ass. It's one of the worst things that I've
dealt with that I've seen other people deal with. And
you can't continue to subject yourself to these big, rocking hits.
You know, guys like Tom Wilson will always be predators.
And he went out and had a predatory hit on
a kid that was wasn't paying attention a but also
shouldn't have been playing because his head's so fragile. And
(20:53):
that's just one of those things, you know. So listen,
twenty twenty four he had dubber body to they thought,
you know, concussions. He had the shoulder and twenty five
another finger in twenty five.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Like it.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
It's it sucks because Jack Hughes as an American fan.
I want him in the Olympics doing well because he.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
As a hockey fan. You want him playing.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, he gives us a better chance to win. Yeah,
And it's fun to beat the devils with Hughes in
the lineup. It is as a ranger fan, I don't
want to I hate him because he's a devil, but
it's still fun to play against someone like that, who
who is so dynamic. You know, it's like Crosby. I
hated him in the beginning. Now as I get older,
you know, I'm respecting the guys awesome, But like you
(21:33):
can still hate the player in the moment and and
but want this guy to be there for his team
because it makes it that much more fun for ice hockey.
But yeah, it just it sucks because he gets this
moniker now and and it's hard to shake that kind
of thing as you continually get more and more injuries
like this, as it piles up, whether it's fluke or not.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, the fluke just kind of adds fuel to the
fire with this injury stuff, because that's what I that's like.
I'm for the example gave was Bo Bennett, and he's
just like, somehow these guys just find ways to be injured,
even if it's like freak accidents.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But hopefully back now, keep having well.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Hopefully he comes back and you know, there's nothing else
for the rest of the season. I can't say that
was confidence, but hopefully, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
And they're gonna They're obviously gonna put him on on
Team USA. They'll they can put him at him onto
the roster, that's not a problem. He can go in
late or he can do whatever he wants. Right, He'll
he will make Team USA. I don't think any Devil's
fan has to worry about that in any USA fan,
he'll make that team and if he can play, they'll
get him in there. If he can't play, then he won't.
I mean, that's just kind of be gonna be how
(22:42):
it is, all right, So there's other pretty good spot. Yeah,
probably probably he's doing pretty well too, which is crazy.
Speaking of before, we had talked about some money, but
Adrian Kempe signed an eight year, eighty five million contract
with the Kings. Obviously, you know, ten point six whatever
(23:06):
is prettyft the amount. I'm not sure he's totally worth that,
But listen, you got played, and we want players to
get paid. But if you look now at the free
agents remaining in twenty twenty six, this might be the
worst for agency season we've ever experienced. And we've had
some bad ones where you hope all this stuff happens
and nothing happens. But here's the next notable list our.
(23:29):
Timmy Panarin is the best player of Vechkin. He's not,
you know, leaving Carlson is not leaving John Carlson. That
is Honors Lee Off Guinea Malkin also not leaving, probably
Alex Tuck, Serge Bobrovski probably not leaving Patrick Leone, Jacob Truba,
Ryan McDonough, Nick Schmaltz, and Rasam Sanderson are the top ten.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Say probably he'll be I think he'll probably be signed.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, but how how bad lest somebody backs up a
dump truck full of money?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I think he would. I think he would resign. I
think he I don't even think he's gonna make it
to free agency. I think he's going to resign.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean he started out. If you con
like his hot streak, I think he'd have like throughout
the whole season.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean he'd have a huge payday, Yeah, a huge
But he's still he's still pretty a pretty important player
to that roster. Yeah, and I mean he wasn't. We
all knew he wasn't going to keep that up. Yeah,
but there's no way he's still I mean, he's still
an impact player and he's still a very important player
to that team. And I think he does well with
the young roster. So, I mean, even if it's like
(24:34):
a shorter term, they're not going to sign him to
like an eight year contract or anything. But I can
see them sign him to like a shorter term contract,
and I can see him wanting to stay too. He's
been there for quite some time now and had success.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Yeah, he has, he's he's been really good.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's like the biggest names. The biggest name is going
to be Patrick lyone, and it's just somebody is going
to grossly overplay.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
What's restricted free agent market.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Like maybe they're I'm still waiting for these still waiting
for these offer sheets. But it's it depends, It depends,
Sam because the amount of compensation you have to give
for one of these offer sheets. I mean Saint Louis
made out okay, because Holloway and Broberg they weren't. I
(25:21):
mean it's the it's the term or is it the
money or what is it? How do they base the compensation.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Off of It's based off money, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
The size of so the size of the contract basically
is the compensation. But you're looking at some of these
guys that are restricted free agents that could get you know,
just for example, a ten ten million dollar contract you're
handing away. Was it three first round picks or four?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think it's I think ten.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Are It's it's ridiculous and it's stupid that that is
still twenty thirty one.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
No, you have to you have to give up this
year's pick. All right, So anything over eleven points, anything
over eleven point seven is four firsts. In between nine
point three million to eleven seven is two firsts, a
second and a third. Seven to nine and a half
is one first, one second, one third. If you give
a player between four yeah, if you give a player
(26:23):
in between four point five million and seven million, you
owe them a first.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And a third.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's still a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, here's your free agents. And I could see one
player making that ten million mark, and that's Jason Robertson.
He's the top RFA. Trevior Zegris is up there, Philip Broberg,
Connor Badard for.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
A pretty good contract. Secrets Yeah, uh, Connor.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Bodard is a RFAU. Leo Carlson, Simon Nimich, Mattias Micheli,
JJ Moser, Kirby, Doc Fettov, Profetti, Fantilly, Baron Hayton, Jamie Drysdale,
Dylan Holloway, Cylinger, Schneider, Chinakov, contract, Michael your check cutter gotier.
(27:12):
Now some of these are you know, your first start RFA.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So you don't.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
It's it's a lot harder to get someone on a
ELC on those or sorry, get someone on a a
contract on those, the ones that are just expiring el C's.
But some of these other guys you've been here longer.
It's like Nick Robertson would be a prime example of
a guy you could uh sutt an offer sheheet to
Zach Benson's.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Crazy yeah final, because the contract was he he was,
I mean, he was in line for a major payday
and it seemed like he he took a shorter term
contract to cash in more later. And I think it's
gonna work against him. Don't think he's going to get
as much or gonna get as much, not as much
(27:56):
as he would have was it three years ago now?
He would think when he was a yeah, it was
a two two consecutive seasons of forty goals.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
He's I still think he's getting eight years and uh,
probably close to ten. I think it's close. It's got
to be close to the the same deal that what's
his name just got with the Kings.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Can Dallas afford that?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I don't know, Maybe it's the equivalent, I should say,
because obviously CAP in La is different than CAP in Dallas.
There's no cap no no tax, no tax. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah,
I think he gets paid a ship ton. I like
him a lot. Yeah, was talking about Paner in his
(28:41):
bald head. Here is quickly because obviously our Timmy Panerin
one of the free agents we RFA. We are sorry
free agents we just talked about. Here are his stats
and it's I think this is pretty good. Uh, with hair,
fourteen games played, two goals, five assists, a minus five rating.
(29:03):
Without hair, bald shaven four games, three goals, six assists,
nine points, plus four rating. So he should stay bald.
And really they should shave all the Rangers heads. I
think that would be a fantastic idea.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
When they're at home.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Wait, there's just.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Altogether they can score goals at home? Yeah, they cannot.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And we we talked about this on you know, our
our our text thread with the Lessel Devils guys. But
those jerseys, that view of the game between Detroit and
Rangers yesterday where they wore their one hundred year anniversary jerseys,
both teams, both colors, the red Ye trows wearing red,
Rangers wearing that light blue. They have to do this
(29:43):
more often, and I understand there's not you know, you
can't put you know, Penguins and Boston in the same
colored jerseys.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Right, that just won't work. What does black and the
other does yellow or something like that? Just yeah, you
could do that, but like, but that would the yellow
is not a traditional home, is what I'm saying. Right,
that's more of a third jersey. You could do that,
but I'm saying traditional homes traditional homes. You could do
other you know, you could do the Penguins that you know,
(30:11):
wearing black and the Rangers wearing blue. You could, and
maybe it's a little off a little bit, but there's
that's where you should see more of that same thing
happen in other games where there's you know a little
more discrepancy with the jerseys. So but yeah, that the
photo of everybody on the ice at the you know
there's benches, not benches clearing because this game over, but
kind of a large gathering of players and you know,
(30:35):
you have I think it was Edmund's, uh, a couple
of players from the Rangers on the on the on
the ice and guys just like jam in their those
old school gloves, the that like old school leather gloves
into like players faces. Completely loved that scene and I
thought it was.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I gotta say, though, if the reason for that brawl
was simply because the puck was shot into an empty net,
that is the dumbest reason for a bench clearing brawl
I've ever seen in my entire life. Ever.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
People stupid goalies hate that though, all goalies hate.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
But it was an empty net. It was an empty net,
but it wasn't on a goalie. It was after the buzzer.
The game was over.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
If you're You're Howitzer and the goalies in net and
the and the period's over, the game. Yeah, okay, I
understand if.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
You're shooting it at somebody, there's literally nobody in the net,
and he's just like coasting in there. The horn goes
off and he just like he doesn't hammer it into
the empty net, He just kind of like deposits it there,
and then everybody dumbest. That's the dumbest thing ever heard.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It is dumb, But it's it's one of those things
that it.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Wasn't even in the net. And even if it's like
if that, if the buzzer didn't go off, it's not
his stat like, it does not a blemish on his record.
No matter how you want to frame.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
It, you should be suspended.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Listen, it was. It was one of those things where
he was probably frustrated how the game went, and that
was just.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
An NHL Rules seventy automatic ten game suspension for the
first player who leaves the players or penalty bench to
start an altercation. Quick.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, but that's during play.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
That's so you're saying that once the buzzer hits, you
can you can clear the benches and brawl, and.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
They should do that. I think that'd be more entertaining,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The then that's the loophole. Then that's the loophole.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
It has happened before. I mean, you see scrums after
the game is when they're like, you know, all the
players are kind of getting on the rink and then
you see like but no, I mean that one was
like a pile. Yeah, so that you don't see, you know,
too often, but you will see like altercations after the
game ends when everybody's because that's what happens. The buzzer
goes off, everybody gut jumps onto the ice, So after
the I guess it's difficult to uh to say that,
(33:02):
but I can't think of I mean, I think of
I think it was Eric Goddard jumped the bench for
the Penguins. I don't I don't know that, but this is.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
David Clarks, I think, David. But we're talking about a
bench clear It's been a very long time, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean I.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Remember Devil's Rangers in the in the playoffs in early nineties.
It was a bench clearing brawl.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That was probably the last time was because I think.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
That's what stopped it all. You know, Scott Stevens. I
think you think he threw somebody into the penal, uh
into the bench or so it was. It was wild.
I think it took like eight ten minutes for that year.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Was it when the well year was? When the coach
through the through the bench on the ice.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, and it almost it almost hit raf head the Yeah,
it just barely cleared its head. That was one of
the questions I think I asked him when we interviewed
Brianal It's like, yah, did you know that? If you're
any taller? So, But I mean for me personally, I'm
(34:21):
probably in the minority here. But I missed those days.
I really missed the drama those days, the bench clearing.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I miss parts of parts of those days. I don't
miss like third and fourth liners being utterly useless besides
the stage.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, age fights.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I'm not a fan of ste some of those in
a while. Yeah we haven't. Yeah, but some of those
lines back in like the nineties and those fourth line
plugs was literally just three goons waiting to just have
their time in.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
The same was the third line was. The third line
is where you hit your penalty killers. The fourth line
and you know, barely made it on the ice unless
they were gonna fight somebody, and then you just rolled
your top two lines and that was it.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
The Rangers had some really bad goons. I'm not saying,
but I can remember the Devils specifically Turner Stevenson might
have been the worst hockey player I had ever seen
in my life, and all he did was throw knocks
and it was I just those players that were just
on that four of those fourth lines during that speriod
was so so much fun. Yeah, that's that was hockey
(35:28):
back in the good old days.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
All right.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
So let's get to a couple of things. We've been
chatting a little bit about some bs, which is we're
always good for this.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Do we want to talk about feet again?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, we can talk about we'll probably get more uh yeah,
more followers. You know, Kirby a couple of injuries because
we were talking about that before. But uh, Kirby dock
out four to six weeks. But then did you did
you see the injury to I'm not kerfoot also in
the habs oh man? Uh new hook? Did you see
(36:05):
no new hook? Did you see his injury kind of
you know, collided with skates heading into the boards and
his foot was gumby. It was just bent off the side.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
He had no ankle.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
And it's one of those.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Pretty pretty gross. And uh, you know Nick Felino's out.
I'm sorry, Yeah it was Nick Fillino or was it? Yeah?
It was Fillino's out for it a couple of weeks
with the hand dur injury for he broke some bones
in his hand. H McAvoy getting hitting them out with
the puck. Do you see that where his tooth just
flies out after he gets hit. Yeah, just a lot
of injuries too.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
What was that? Do you see his face cut like emlily?
You see his tooth fine and you see the.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Cash on his face? Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I didn't want to see that. Yeah, no, boy, Now.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Let's do our favor our fun stats things, because it's
always a good time to go through. Obviously, Nate Dogg
with thirty three points in nineteen games, he is a
beast plus nineteen. McDavid out of the doldrums now with
thirty points, Celebrainy twenty seven, Badard twenty six, Carlson twenty six,
and you know, the three kids are still standing in there.
(37:20):
Connor Bandard, it's it is good to see him doing well.
We do like him as a player. We don't like
the team he's on, but you know, it's good to
see a number one overall pick, you know, living lit
up to the hype. Yeah yeah, Ken mccarr leading all
defenseman points with twenty five.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And what else did you see as a d Morrissey
was doing pretty well nineteen points in sixteen games. Uh.
Let's do our our our fabulous plus minus. Obviously, Nate Dogg, mccarr,
Leacanon neckass top four plus minus. We do have a
new champion, shrim so shrim Seeing this, I guess it's
(38:02):
actually a tie for for champion with Mackenzie Wieger at
minus sixteen, who is the other minus sixteen player in
the league.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Is it? Is it a lightning?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
It is not.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
It is a Edmonton oiler. Someone I thought was going
to get fifty goals this season.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well for somebody on the lightning is pretty close, but
not at there's a close lightning Is a himen Yeah, no,
it's manic.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah, minus sixteen.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I freaking love it, uh, Stephen.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
One tonight lightning is is minus.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Twelve, which Tampa is.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
It is a Kushrov No on the same line though,
same limit, Yeah, point, yep, yep, minus twelve.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's another minus two.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Last night there was a stat It was talked about
expected goals and then how which they have actually, you know,
achieved those expected goals. Of all the lines that have
played at least one hundred minutes with each other, Tampa's
line of Point, Kucharov and Genzol was the fifth worst
(39:15):
in the hockey in the NHL. It's pretty bad in
terms of expected goals and goals produced. He's extremely snake
bit right now, brain points snake bit right now. And
Genseil's producing. Genseil on that line is probably right now
the only one really producing. Kutrov yeah a little bit,
but not like he normally does. And Point is just
like completely not doing anything right now and turn for laugh.
(39:40):
You been really well you could.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Tampa's power play is a freaking abysmal. So it's that's
not helping this situation either.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
So it's this scrims tap a minute as usual.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
It sucks. I can go off on these last two
games that they just played. Oh, I know you can, uh, Sam.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
One other thing, I didn't want to talk to you
because I did see your You had a report about
Larry book Brooks, who passed away earlier this It was
early in the weekend before the weekend of cancer. And
you know, I'm someone you know obviously I followed the
Rangers beat and he had taken a leave of absence,
especially from his podcast, to kind of deal with what
he was dealing with. And he passes. But a pretty
(40:23):
good number of hockey tributes from from Steve Levy and
John Tortorella, and you know, Molly Walker with with the
Post and a couple other people, my Mike Lupica and
a bunch of other people. But someone who meant a
lot to journalism and reporting. And I know he had
obviously the beefs with you know, whether it be Dan
Boyle or John Tortorella or different players. He was one
(40:46):
of those guys that always was there the next day,
ready to ask more questions and stand by what he
wrote and what he said. And I think players kind
of respected that for the most part. But yeah, I
heard what you said. You know, some good words from
from yourself. Obviously he was the devils for a little
while in their pr right public relations.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah, communications, VP and communications. I actually I met him
twenty twelve Stanley Cup Finals in the press box and
one thing I noticed. The first thing I noticed was
when he typed on his laptop, it was almost like
he was typing on a typewriter. So he's like totally
(41:27):
old school journalist, two fingers just like that. And he
knew that he was going to be typing something brilliant.
And but you know, he has his he had this
reputation right, So when Nick Volano got him on the
podcast the first time around, I was so nervous, Like,
(41:48):
I was so nervous not to screw it up. I
hadn't been that nervous since Cam Jansen getting him on
the phone lines and patching him in. And on top
of that, I was down in Florida at my parents' house.
So it was a little tricky because you know, you're
away from the studio, you're you're not familiar for your surroundings.
(42:09):
And as soon as I call them, and I'm like,
should I call him mister Brooks? Should I call him Lawrence? Larry?
You know?
Speaker 2 (42:17):
But he was he was.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
He was so nice over the phone, a little short,
but nice. But when we got him on the second
time around, it was he he was just a nice guy.
And you know, and I've told this story before because
him and Torts, you know, they would you know, they
were you know, the press conferences were entertaining, and you know,
(42:45):
and I thought maybe Torts was the same way. But
he's a completely different person like almost like that persona
that he has as the you know, as this hockey coach,
but the Tortorella as the man is a totally different guy.
And when it didn't surprise me when Steve Levy and
(43:08):
Tortorella talked about Larry Brooks what Tortorella said, it didn't
surprise me that he had nothing but kind words, you know,
and he put things into perspective. Yeah, you know, they
didn't agree on a lot, but you know, and I love.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Every every time they would speak, it'd be like, Tortrell
is the kind of guy. He's like in the moment,
and anytime they would speak, it'd be like he'd be,
you know, in that moment of whatever just happened or
whatever just transpired. But like when he's like in the
intermission of a game or something and talking to Steve
Levi or I actually really like him as a as
an analyst. Just being able to the way you feel
(43:48):
like he can express everything. I think he does actually
a really good job. So yeah, I just want to.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, I mean, Tortorella is a real deal. Like he's good,
he's not He's very transparent, he's a very matter of fact,
and I think it's refreshing. But you know, well, Larry Brooks,
you know, yeah, I'm gonna obviously miss a lot of
the slap shots in the New York Post. I always
(44:16):
look forward to that.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
And you know, he told us a Lola Morella story
because he's got he had so many of them.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
He's gonna have so many stories.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, he told us. He told us on air that
one day lou Morell went to his desk and he
just puts down a dollar. What was this for the
shave Shave, And then another good read was Larry Brooks
(44:56):
how he handled that? Have another donut?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, with uh.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Was the referee and.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Jim Schaumpfeld, you know, yeah, just how he handled that.
I mean, I mean there were judges involved, there were
actually restraining orders and judges and then replacement referees. You know,
I think there's still around. There's three referees that refer again,
(45:28):
I gotta get them on the podcast. They must be
really up there in age.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
Yeah, obviously, you know, it's a big hole for for
the the reporting and you know journalism community. So I
just wanted to throw that out there. But we'll do
standings and we'll get out of here quickly. Boston actually
number one in the Atlantic right now. I don't think
anyone had that on their cards. Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa as
(46:01):
the top four. If if someone gave you that top
four in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Of the year with Tampa, Toronto, Floriado.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yeah, as as the next three after that, I think
we would all be in a shocked metro the debs.
But actually, you know, they're doing pretty well and we'll
see who's kind of steps up in the wake of
Jack Hughes being out Hurricanes, Penguins, Islanders Rangers. Flyers Rangers
are nine to one and one away. One's seven and
(46:31):
one at home and our seven and three in their
last ten. They have actually the best record in the
last I think it was three weeks, so amazing. Uh,
Colorado sits number one in the central, Dallas Jets, Blackhawks,
and then Pacific. You got Kings, Ducks, Kracking and the Knights,
any teams kind of.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
You know, Can I just give it. I'm just gonna
give it first. I'm just gonna give a quick stat.
Oh yeah, and the Kings are I think no, I
think it's two to one. Now, one quick stat. Piggybacking
off of I think it was two two pocket because
that wasn't the last podcast one before that. Power plays numbers, Okay,
Can I just say the Pittsburgh Penguins still currently have
(47:14):
the lowest power play to game ratio that there is.
They just played in Nashville and Sweden and were out
power played for nothing in a game that they won
three nothing. But that being said, they so Minnesota leads
the league in power play opportunities in they've played one
more game Minnesota's played twenty Pittsburgh has played nineteen. They
(47:38):
have thirty four more power plays than the Penguins two
in one extra game, thirty four more power plays. And
once again Sam piggybacking again, I think the Devils are
they might be third lowest, fourth lowest, so they're still there.
Columbus was so Columbus had forty three power play opportunity,
(48:00):
Pittsburgh had forty four, but Columbus played one fewer games
which they're playing now. I don't know if they've had
a power play here. But once again, the Metro, I
think all the Metro teams are in the bottom eight,
maybe ten in the league for power plays in favor
And I honestly I can't figure out why the Pittsburgh thing.
Maybe is a rookie coach and the refs just aren't
(48:21):
given them any favors. But I don't know how. It's
the entire division just doesn't draw, doesn't draw penalties. Apparently
Columbus has one power play tonight so far. All right,
so they're currently tied with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Pretty impressive couple things. Will Sam gets gets ready to
do some music.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Thirty four thirty four more power play opportunities and one
extra game. That is insanity. And we're only to a
quarter the season in Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I want to know what Steve.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
I think Crosby stopped diving and they didn't no longer
getting these Yeah, that's gotta be it. Uh, Sam, you
can hit the music that Depko obviously back from injury.
Shane Pinto got the new deal as well, and they
were talking about it. The the rank in Milan for
the Olympics might not be ready in time, which would
(49:14):
be very very funny, and they have to figure out
what what to do if if that happens.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Yeah, these Olympics are always a crap shoot.
Speaker 5 (49:25):
Fizzing whizzbles.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
Solid three, very good.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
My gin's solid four. It is very very botanical, very strong.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
And Dogfish is fantastic. Oh you got general George. Yeah,
that one's good, pretty good. Five Sam, Sam gets a
five all the time for this that those are so good.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
No, it's ten, ten, doubling the scale.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
Out of five. Shrim take her home.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
In the words of mister Elijah Price, they call me
mister Glass.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Right, Yeah, that's boy.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Come by yards him him, come me closer to me.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
I know you have as
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Hmm, so I make this int
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