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Episode Transcript

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You' re listening to Hello Worldthe podcast of Rubén Señor y Lucía Sánchez,
creators of the travel blog something toremember dot com Hello. Welcome,
welcome to a new season of podcastHello World season ten, season ten.
There are a lot of mythical seriesthat haven' t gotten to so much

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and here' s this season tenpodcast that we also change everything every time
you know as nothing comes of change. Now new sections, new headers to
new advertisers. We have two brandsthat go up here to the podcast world.
With us. Okay one is JaiMundo, which is also the brand
the company, the company, ourtravel companion with whom we are going to

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lot of discounts for you because youare on the other side, okay we
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and then we also have there talkand all that a platform to learn languages,

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any language or which all and Idon' t know how many languages
has a lot. I got tiredof another day counting. And besides,
they' re teachers, native teacherswho are there for you at any time.
It' s wherever you are.Those people must be that they don
' t sleep, okay, becauseit' s important to travel the languages.
That' s it, plus Isay it, but you know it
as well as I do. Itis important and for life in general and

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well, what we are going todo today, because we are going to
present each section as it is alittle bit, why such and then we
already developed and from the next program, as if they were of the family,
the sections okay, today we presentthem a little bit and then good,
because for the future it is worthyou already know what this is about
or the world. And if not, because you just got here, listen
to yourself some seasons before That's because they have nothing to do with

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this one. We start with theseason ten voicemails. I don' t

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know about you, but since I' m a mother, I give a
lot to the audio podcast for Whatsapp. Okay, because when it' s
a call, my kids detect thatI' m not taking care of them,
and their mammal radar is activated asa non- pending progenitor. I
can die from it, I haveto do something to get attention, but

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when it' s an audio fromWhatsapp, it' s like I can
hear it in pieces. I canstop it, I can if something happens,
leave the phone and come back becausethey need me. So I look
for those moments where they' reconnected to each other with something and they
don' t need me, andthen they can listen and I can send.
And that makes that what I liketo talk about and expand on in

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the details, because sometimes I sendsome audio podcasts that I already think should
put on cover, music, entrance, exit, farewell and closing and everything,
because they are almost audio podcasts Andin this section, because I am
going to share some of those audiopodcasts that I meet with some people that

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I admire, that I want andI am going to open in that sense
to share also with you and withyou my audio podcast that I sometimes send
when we are on the trip.Or that sometimes I command because when we
are in life in general, HelloFriend, how about all good, I
hope you are phenomenal. I amvery happy here, traveling through Morocco,

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the truth, feeling a lot,enjoying a lot, eating phenomenal and good
I am as having many thoughts aboutour way of life. There' s
really nothing like going to other placesin the world to see one' s

(04:12):
own and to take a little bitof an awareness of what we' re
at, because right here right now, we' re supposed to be in
Christmas season, but there' snothing Christmas here. So Christmas is not
celebrated, so we are totally outof this frantic moment of shopping, of
inflating ourselves with food, especially shopping. No, because I think this has

(04:33):
been evolving. I have that childhoodmemory in which maybe it was given more
importance to get together and we've been going a lot, a lot,
a lot, a lot. Thetheme of consumption is that it'
s curious because birthdays aren' teven celebrated here. People tell me they
don' t celebrate well. Theyhave several calendars running at the same time,

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and besides, there are a lotof people who include that don'
t know exactly what day was born. Those who are still descendants of nomads
have the DNA and, since theywere born on January 1, all and
sometimes even the people themselves tell methat they know that it is wrong,
put, that is, that theyput to the best that they were born
in the eighty- three to twobrothers that have several years of difference.

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Then the record is not right.So the thing about birthdays is like it
' s not very important. Butthis also makes me think I don'
t mean, it' s noteven important exactly what age is, which
is something that maybe we, ifwe give importance to it, is not
like this year I' m fortywaw forty and here there are people who

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don' t know if it's forty thirty- eight forty- two
and deep down I think about itand I say, what do I have
what I have, I' mnot anymore or even what the forty have
to do with someone who has away of life with the forty of others.
That moment you meet a fisherman who' s totally sun tanned with his
skin. I' ve dusted itand it says good to you. It

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' s me that at my forty- five and you say forty- five
by God, for if this lordlooks like my grandfather is going to be
forty- five or the other wayaround, not someone who you find suddenly
tells you he' s, he' s thirty years old and you say
but he does seem to be eighteen, by your way of life, by

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your way of thinking, by yourenergy. And then, well, what
difference does it make, what differencedoes it make? I' m as
old as I am right now.This doesn' t smell my head anymore,
but I' m having a feelinghere that happens to me a lot
when we leave Europe, and it' s also true that we' ve

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come several years already traveling around Europeand traveling with children. This is still
getting more tired and I like museumsa lot. The cul as all this
architectural part that has Europe also hasa very beautiful part of nature. But
I have like a feeling of asphyxiation, I mean, it' s like

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I' m like a girdle thatsqueezes me into the subject of rules.
There are so many things that cannotbe done that in the end, I
mean, are all those norms thatare set for coexistence and civics and that
we do not bother each other butthat we can live together in harmony.

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But they come in I mean,it seems to me that they have as
a not so pretty part, whichis that in the end we have to
regulate absolutely everything and somehow, likewe have very thin skin. It'
s not since we' ve beenhere in Morocco or with the children'
s issue is amazing. I don' t see things that are mind-

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blowing, I mean, for themthere' s no such thing that this
is a phrase my grandmother used tosay to me when I was little in
the same sentence, it can't be for me kids, and I
' m upset. So it can' t exist in my mind that a

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child bothers or is a child isa child, a child makes noise,
a child, moves, a childmakes a mess, a child, then
that has a series of consequences,but it can' t be attached in
my mind to Molestia Vale just likean elderly person, because maybe or a

(08:45):
person who has a dependent illness,because it generates a series of work in
the people around him looking after himbut can' t be associated with Molestia.
You know, I have to takecare of or whatever it is,
not for her, that couldn't exist in her mind. I was
talking about a person, because helived the Civil War, not that my

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grandmother has already died, but thatwas his mentality, that is, that
mentality was in Spain a hundred yearsago or less, and what has happened
that we have become increasingly European andsuddenly, because we have places in which
you cannot play ball. Then Ihave an image, for example, brutal

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of Fez' s medina on aFriday, in which, as we were
there was all the doors of business, that is, the streets, which
are super labyrinthine, They are alldoors, doors, business doors, shops.
Then, the doors of all business. Doors were closed as well as
large wood, because it was Fridayand then there was no. It'

(09:54):
s the day of rest, therewas no market that day. And in
a space much smaller than a square, there was a group of five or
six kids. It was fluctuating becausesometimes one passed by and joined another.
Someone was going to call one ofyou Hey, go ahead and do a
mandaillo Then I' d go andbuy them some bread I' d come

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back. Then it was an impromptufootball game in which people, the children
joined and went out at the moment, that is to say a football game
with very few rules is worth,that is to say, very little protocol.
It was basically that there was adoorman standing in front of a closed
wooden door that stopped balloons and therewere people pulling, people joining one side

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people than another. So, itwasn' t all that way and we
stayed Tindaya and I as almost becausean hour or so because Rubén wanted to
take pictures of one of the tanneriesand he went with coke and Tiendaya and
I because shop there also sometimes hasto be smaller, because he can'
t keep up and needs pauses,he needs to stay. This is also

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something that I see as making lifevery easy for us when we leave Europe.
It' s like the rhythm oflife in general is more adapted to
our rhythm as a family. Itis worth our rhythm in a reality in
which there are children who go slower, because, like everything, it goes
slower, because we are like moreadapted to that rhythm And then, in

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that football game, which lasted anhour, the balls went and came against
the doors of the wooden businesses,businesses that were big doors, that is,
obviously, with a ball that wasnot of regulation, it will not
break a wooden door, but theywould beat it and then hear the peace

(11:43):
against the door. Then I wasthere and I was waiting for it to
happen. Every time I kept passingpeople and I said there' s gonna
be some adult coming in and Iwas gonna say hey kids, you can
' t play ball here. Stopit, since you' re hitting the
doors. It didn' t happenin an hour. It didn' t

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happen. In fact, there wasa time when there was a corner.
Then people were turning around that cornerand suddenly the ball was going up the
corner. Then there was a momentthey gave. They gave a shot and
that shot fell right in the corner, up to the head of a man
who was turning the corner and Isaid well, here I know they'
ve earned it. That is tosay, here the gentleman is going to

(12:26):
grab the ball, he' sgoing to throw it away or he'
s going to tell him that youcan' t play man, since you
almost paid me a stick in myhead, because he didn' t say
anything, either, or he putface, just as Witt' s scared,
but he went on his way andthought clearly there are some kids playing

(12:48):
football in this space and, logically, when they hit the ball, he
hits the doors. The doors aremade of wood, they won' t
be destroyed and that' s itthen. Okay. All this makes me
question myself and ask myself things andsay I am still waiting, after almost
two months in Morocco, for someoneto find it strange that a child speaks

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too loudly or screams or runs.I haven' t seen him yet.
I haven' t seen anyone sayget off. In other words, it
is like an understanding of what thereality of childhood is, which, on
the other hand, I would sayis understanding the reality of the human being.
Okay, because in the end,if we don' t understand the

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kids, we don' t understandourselves. If we don' t understand
the elders, neither. I mean, there' s a society created for
an age range and the rest ofthe people are out there. And the
worst of all is that those ageranges we passed them, too. I
mean, it' s not thatwe' re exclusive to living between eighteen

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and fifty all our lives or sixtyisn' t gonna come a time when
we' re going to be,we' re going to be from the
group that don' t fit inhere, not and it' s heavy
and it' s heavy, sonothing, all that I tell you,

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friend, and we' re goingto keep going around here, through Morocco,
hallucinating and wondering things and feeling likeI don' t know that belt,
that girdle, that it' sEurope, that sometimes I see it
as a continent, that it's like some kind of old woman who

(14:37):
looks behind the stale bisillo and thatit' s there like a little bit
already as a resabia you know howtoy that bothers me all you do and
I close the curtain to gossip I' m going to kisses by this height.
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Hymundo dot is, so now Iget angry and I don' t breathe

(16:04):
what is this? So now Iget angry and I don' t breathe,
because look is that it' sone thing that lucy already talked about,
we talk from time to time,and it' s this moment of
the hat that there is out thereof people who are dedicated to letting go
of their opinion, that it's okay to tell your opinion and say
it and above all a constructive criticism. But above all your opinion is released

(16:26):
to the venom judging without knowing andI have loosed this here and I go
and pull, then it is whenit is not constructive, but rather it
is disproportionate many times besides, evennot very well elaborated, with some disrespect.
This is wrong, this is wrong, fortunately, that is to say

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that we don' t have manycomments from these, but it is true
that, as we sometimes expose ourselvesin some documentary, in some publication,
in some video, because this goesfar and someone who knows us nothing,
because he sees it like this andthe first thing that happens to him at
loose bud. Then we' retoo much of a cut- off of
that kind of comment. Okay sofast that, on the other hand,
it tastes a little bad, becausethere are a lot of good people out

(17:10):
there that are many and hard toanswer and suddenly it seems that it is
very important to a bad one,but not just to keep it from being
balled. So this section is onewhere we' ve picked up some message
than another about something we' vedone and I want to comment on.
Okay, but so suddenly to you, not in fact, I don'
t get to read all of them, but simply for every post or video

(17:33):
that I remembered and looked for alittle bit. So I' m saying
here there was a little bit aboutthe subject and then I' m developing
it, but just to give athought is worth and what I' d
like you to keep from this isthat the next time we, everyone,
meat people, say, when weexpose ourselves to something a content that comes

(17:59):
that we think a little bit beforeour opinion, that because what we see
we want to get is that peoplefeel like attacked? It is supposed to
be something that is our experience,in our way of life and so and
people feel like attacked. And sometimeswe don' t know out of envy,
because they don' t understand it, because they think it' s
barbaric. I don' t know, I mean, but it may not
seem good to you, of courseit does, but from there to say

(18:22):
some stupid thing that we' veseen, because maybe not then either,
because you can say I don't know I say, because I look
at this the truth, and itdoesn' t go through my head to
do it. But, well,if we work, which is what we
try to tell others always, thatis, this life we have, it
works for us, but not foreveryone. It' s clear and that
' s how you know better,because if it were that way with everything,

(18:44):
not that maybe this would be bettergoing, then nothing. This section
goes a little bit over there So, with that metaphor of content comments,
we' re going to go fromgranando, because the way to see the
world a little bit of quick judgment. Let' s try to eliminate it
or make us think a little bitthat if that' s okay, if
it' s wrong. Uh,so nothing. I' m going to

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read some comments. Some things areworth and what comes up. For example,
let' s go with the documentaryHello. World' s good to
start there. I don' tknow why I tried anything out there and
read a comment like that, soI found myself going down that it was
the ones we traveled this way.We know that traveling with young children is
not a big problem. The problemis when the age of schooling comes,

(19:30):
everything is the one that you tellonly in long time to that stage a
few years more after all, itbecomes more complicated to make another documentary in
five years and you tell us itbecause so far nothing new. The one
who is a traveler of heart continuesto travel and is that he has not
done it without children, he willnot begin to do it now with them.
Very well to see this comment doesn' t have much hat for nothing
It expresses the opinion that I thinkit is quite, quite sensible and what

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I did want just say that asI found it, it' s like
look, we' re going tomake a documentary now just five years after
the other voucher and we' regoing on with the same thing. Then
nothing I recommend you see is goodand then there are people who traveled and
who, by having children and continuingto travel they say and who didn'
t do it is not going tostart doing it. It' s totally,
totally disagreeable. I know a lotof people who travel a lot,

(20:15):
have had children and have stopped travelingwhy, out of respect, out of
fear of the environment, for alot of things, okay, these things
happen then no. This isn't about coming. I' m like
this forever. It' s notworth it. It' s not like
that. Then nothing good. Iinvite you to watch the documentary when we

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already have it online. Well,as I tell you, it' s
been five years, and surely anotherfive, let' s make another one.
There was another comment out there aboutthe world, also saying what percentage
of people can afford to live thatway. There is a need for a
very solvent economy and a job positionthat does not abound everything, very nice
for many who would like it andwill never succeed. This comment is also

(20:59):
not de hate, I mean,there is no disrespect. It' s
already in other programs. Yeah,I want to start off smooth, but
well, this is one thing we' re also told a lot. It
' s not like these real Parisiansdon' t, I mean really don
' t. We made a lotmore money when we had a job.
Let' s say for sure itwasn' t, because many comrades who

(21:19):
work with us threw them out yearslater have stayed on the street and there
they are looking for their lives aswell. So we' re going to
what' s going on, projectsthat come out, but for nothing there
' s a security in ours.Right now we' re black belt in
uncertainty. So it' s notcomfortable at all easy easy simple and I

(21:41):
guess if there' s someone whohas a lot, a lot, a
lot of money, can do itor may not, because the best has
many obligations and can' t affordto leave either. That' s it,
then. I don' t knowwhere the balance between having money is,
but being able to let you gothrough everything you' ve built.
I don' t know. Ihave never been rich like this, multimillionaire

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entrepreneur with a lot of employees anda thousand things to attend to and neither
heir that maybe that if you seean heir who already was born with the
money for punishment and has not hadto do anything, and there it does
say good, because it is alreadyfounded everything, because it can be,
but not in our case. It' s not worth it then either.
Obviously, there are many people whocannot by how this is mounted afford to

(22:30):
travel to expensive countries. We'll talk about this. What it is
is in expensive countries. When youcome to a cheaper country, let'
s say so. But there arelevels. Of course if you go from
the humble country one hundred and ninetyand want to go to Norway, then
two months or three, then enoughdifficult. It' s gonna be tough.
There are ways, there are waysto move such and so many times

(22:55):
to travel slow is to travel cheap. Anyway, we talked about this.
It' s a lot, butin this case what I wanted to tell
you is that we continue. Wecontinue along this path, even though since
he is seven years old and weare still without a hard one, but

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we continue with eight eyes throughout theworld, as this is a section to
bring us thoughts and experiences and situationsthat have come hand in hand to travel
as a family, because it isquite different to traveling as a couple.

(23:45):
So let' s go with thefirst one of the tug, which also
takes me to Morocco, of courseit' s the last such trip we
' ve ever made. And besidesthat I have loved how it is done,
as I think it has already becomeclear, because it is those destinations
that make you think a lot andask you things and see our own world

(24:07):
from other perspectives and also value whatis good and what is bad, because
it is true that also, forexample, in Morocco we have seen,
therefore, the issue of the healthsystem, which is practically non- existent,
very weak. Yes, there areplaces where there are hospitals that have
better services and such. But well, in the end people who are chronically
ill, because it is a problemto have a diabetes, it can be

(24:32):
a problem to have at last,then all this part that puts in value
also what we do and that alsomakes think about what we do have to
care for. No, because thisis a very good thing and I wanted
to talk to you today about somethingthat caught my attention, especially traveling with
children. And that' s good. It is true that we know and

(24:56):
or think that sharing is something thatchildren should not be forced to do.
Not this moment we had before andwe lived with a little boy who has
a toy in the park doesn't want to share it. And well,
they had taught us that sharing isa good thing. And then,
because I' m an adult thereforcing, I don' t think so,

(25:18):
you have to share loose, etcetera. And we do this reflection.
Good. If someone comes and asksme for my car keys, or someone
comes and asks me for my mobilephone, I want to leave him is
a stranger. In the end,this is important to me, et cetera,
et cetera. But sometimes I wonderif this has gotten a little out
of hand, because I saw therethat at the end good. First,

(25:42):
that no one has big toys orwe didn' t see them, too,
we weren' t much in bigcities. That going down the street,
I mean no one can go downthe street with an amazing super barbing
or a super I don' tknow power lego of eighteen heads. No,

(26:06):
I mean, no one' sgonna take that down the street.
On the street are generally down toysthat are already thought for the shared game.
They get balls down, they getmarbles down, they get down to
maybe like little puppies to play thelittle things like that, then I don
' t know if it' swhat you really don' t want to

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share directly, you don' ttake it out into public space, or
there' s not much behind iteither. It' s not like kids
have a few toys. It isnot that they do not have toys,
but it is not that volume oftoys that Spanish children have today or European
children in general. But of course, in the end this is not teaching

(26:52):
or transmitting that something that is yoursis you who decides that it is very
well enough to learn how to putlimis. But I see that sometimes I
don' t know if we becomea society that doesn' t share,

(27:12):
but already a little selfish. I' m going to put in two situations
that we' ve lived with thechildren. When Tiennadia was five months old,
we made a trip through Europe withthe Van to get to the Nordic
countries, which we started in Amsterdam. We met in Amsterdam, we exchanged

(27:33):
houses Rubén came with the van fromthe Canary Islands and we, we flew
first to Madrid and then to Amsterdamand we all got together there. There
we had an exchange house where wespent three weeks. Amsterdam, a wonderful
city in terms of cultural offerings andthings to do with children amazing parks.
But it happened or it happened inone of these fantastic parks where you can

(27:59):
explore your boundaries. It seemed likea hack the berrifil, because it had
a lake, a river that wasspinning and the children could ride on rafts,
they alone, push the raft andthere were many moments in which,
besides you had no visual contact withthem and I said wow no, as
are the Dutch in this sense oftrust, how they let them explore their

(28:22):
limits and what wonder. There wasn' t always a good one in this
case, not always in all theparks, but in this park, or
in this kind of parks, likea fire for after it' s over
all the day of games and thekids are muddy up, they take off
their wet clothes and put it thereby the fire to dry and they are
there, then wild, barefoot cigarsand then we' re going to get

(28:47):
some more malus, some white cloudsto the barbecue and they could be bought
in the little bags store of this. Then what did he come up with?
There was a girl who had abag there and came up and wanted
to ask where she bought them.So, I' m fine, I
was still like her. I'd pull out the bag like that and

(29:07):
you' d think of taking oneand I wouldn' t share what I
have here. This is mine.I was an adult eye, not a
child, and if you want tobuy it, not yours, which,
on the other hand, you saywell, yes, it' s true.
You know if no one is sayingnot to talk a little bit about

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analyzing the type of behavior, becausebesides, children also do a little what
they see adults do and what surroundsthem how the environment works. So this
brings me Holland, because a grossdomestic product, quite well, some rents,
quite high percapitas and a bag ofmore malus, well, of a

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people with fantastic technical equipment and everythingthere and it connects with good. We
went to the store, we boughtthe clouds, that is, our idea,
obviously it wasn' t. We' re going to be hating the
clouds from those who are here We' re not asking where he bought them.
He told us, for there inthe tent is good because we went

(30:11):
shopping too and put them there andstarted making cloudy ones. Being in the
medina of Marraquesh, Coquitinda already hookedup to play with some children who were
from a family that the mother,mother, aunt and several women were there,
so, with chairs that they puton like to paint jena, do

(30:33):
jena tattoos, because the foreigners,the tourists that we passed by and they
were there was also the father,that is, they were like good,
because we are here working late.They had three children, one about the
age of Coquitindaya. The kids wantedto show him they bought a chicken.
Then I had a chicken there aliveinside a super funny bag all, and

(30:57):
they were there, so, playingaround teaching things. What they had at
the time was as you hear,because we have some chromes, because we
play with the chromes. We havethis way and there was a time when
the mother called her like the girland gave her like coins. We didn
' t understand what was going on. We were there and well, he
sent her like something not and then, suddenly, the girl came back with

(31:19):
two potato cones and then a cucuruchogave it to her like his sister.
Like a cucucho for us and anothercucurucho gave it to coke roll, because
this one for your sister and foryou that in the end was never like
that, because it was like everything, for everyone. No. And then

(31:40):
this makes me think not those peoplewho were there working, that I was
trying to make money, that Idon' t think they get involved with
the other person' s issue,that they think good we' re here,
that is, these kids are here. I' m going to buy
fries, because I buy for allthe children who are here with a rent,

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Captain, quite more, at leasthigh. But this, as it
does quite a bit to me,seems to me as very revealing to how
one society works and how another works. It is not mandatory to share no,
but eye, there are people heretoo not to share does not suddenly

(32:22):
mean to invisibility other people. I' m going to eat something and I
can be comfortable. It' sa bit of a woonto concept I can
' t be comfortable with eating somethinghere that I know you all want.
But can you manage your frustration?Not that this is also as much now

(32:45):
is very fashionable. Let' steach, manage frustration? Listen to everyone
managing your frustration because right now Ihave something you don' t have and
I' m here in a publicspace where we' re all enjoying it,
but I' m not sharing itwith you. Then I wonder that.

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We can' t be happy orcomfortable and enjoy something when we'
re in a space where we knowthat the rest of the people are uncomfortable
with something we' re doing.And then many people will tell me clearly
is that then we have to giveup our personal desires to satisfy them from

(33:29):
others. And I have no answerto the truth, but in general,
because of my way of being Ifeel more comfortable in the environment. I
don' t force you to sharewhat you don' t want, but
I take into account the people whoare here and if that means we have,

(33:54):
that is, you' re atmy house and you' ve arrived
at dinner time and there are threesteaks, so either we fry eggs or
cut steaks in half because we're the ones who are. I don
' t mean I don' tknow the best. It is a thought
inherited from the moment, this post- civil war, that everything had to

(34:19):
be shared. I don' tknow, I don' t know.
I would also like to know youropinion about this, about sharing, not
sharing. But, well, Ialways think that sometimes Rubén tells me that
in golf, when you give atouch that you stay very short, in
the next you pass by. No, and I think that' s how
we human beings work sometimes. We' re not short, we' re

(34:43):
long, we' re short,I mean, we don' t have
to force kids to share. Butnow, maybe we' ve gone off
the brakes and it' s justthat don' t worry that this is
yours and nobody touches it and youdon' t share any more of your
scumbags or your fried potato. Ileave this recorded here because maybe in a
year I think different and I'll like to check it out and I

(35:07):
' ll like to know what youthink a lot about this. If there
is one thing that weighs on thebackpack when we travel is not to speak
other languages. The truth is thatwe' re running away with a survival
Englishman or matchcos the roone Hawkno wehave to suck laughter. But as we
end up in a group full ofAnglo- Saxons and the thing gets a
little technical, we can' tkeep up with the conversation If you get

(35:30):
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(36:25):
section was at Lucy' s request. I' ve been talking about your
tox on the road that you havea lot and I' m like this
and it' s made me acouple of two. I say so.
Yeah, well, I think itgives for ten ten then gives my tox
on the road, because those tarasthat I have of things that I do,
that' s good, that theycan let go. A little anus

(36:46):
ging you know a little bit oflook to see, look at it,
make it look at it. It' s worth the first one on this
show. It' s worth theone on the one- ten. Let
' s see what you want meto tell you. I' m a

(37:09):
lot of looking where we' regonna sit. Okay, I mean,
no, but no longer a corridorwindow, which is also good, but
to see the flight. It's in the morning, where we fly,
where the sun will be. He' s gonna be giving me the
face all the time, because onthe other side this is worth it.
I have commented a little bit aboutabove that we do fly from north to

(37:34):
south and it is in the morningin the lyrics, not because it will
give you all the comfort and itwill be a little uncomfortable on the other
side. And so, but also, of course, I' m not
very far behind, being too biga mine before if I leave par so
little is worth, but also andhere' s a little bit the frizz
maybe I look where. Well,when we go flying towards a destination on

(37:59):
the route, where it can stayby the window the most interesting things,
for example, depending on the airport, because arriving in Egypt, I was
there in some cabals to see ifI could see the pyramids of the plane
and if I saw them then Council, if you go to Cairo, feel

(38:21):
left it is worth to see,for example, if you go from Santiago
de Chile to the south it isworth the door birth, then there you.
I can say that his thing isthat you sit to the left also
because you will see all the ropesof the Andes, that you will see
also the dark expert, that youwill see towers of the Paine. Spectacular
and if you go up, then, obviously, to the right and so

(38:44):
a lot of things in Shanghai.I also looked for a way to see
the whole boom. There you goto the right. This kind of thing
is worth coming back. This ismaybe a pretty powerful top. I'
m not telling you it' snot worth it. I' m not
saying no. Then I also can' t stand sitting in the center and
I like the window more than thehallway. It' s okay with this,

(39:07):
but these are more of all thingsnow. Now the other thing,
the according to the hour by thesunlight and what I' m going to
see to make some photograph or allthis is there, this, this,
yes, this yes. I seeif anyone here is developer, developer and
who a good idea to make acomplete application of how to sit on the

(39:29):
plane according to fate. Coming tosee something interesting and such that I already
do it is that I have neitherthe knowledge nor the time. But I,
if you do, I' mgoing to subscribe to that app.

(40:09):
A tipping point requires little explanation aboutwhat it is. No, but,
well, basically a vital moment inwhich he' s made you, he
' s gnawed your head. It' s not like we call it a
revelation, something you say oysters.This has marked something that has marked you
that can be for good or forbad. So, I invite you all

(40:32):
to do that exercise of looking intothe past and thinking about what your vital
turning points are and why, whyI have to do this exercise. You
wonder, because I think it's a very revealing way to find out

(40:55):
what each one' s passions are. I' m a little on this
subject of passions, because not longago. I have just finished reading the
element that in Robinson, which Irecommend to everyone, especially to people who
are in that search for good,what are my passions that sometimes we are
not clear about, and also understandthat these passions do not always have to

(41:17):
be the same ones that are changing. But this exercise of looking at the
past helps a lot to know whatit is or why, being in the
same situations, some people are markingsome things and others is not like what
has happened to a conversation you havehad with a person or a situation that

(41:39):
is complex in which there are manyaspects fluctuating at the same time, what
it marks me, which is completelydifferent from what it marks someone else.
So, of that, that goesa little bit, this section of those
moments that have marked us. Infact, for example, if I look

(42:00):
at the past, I realize that, because there are many vital situations in
which someone was talking or counting orrelating or a book or a song or

(42:21):
X related to other worlds, witha trip, with a volunteer, So,
if I look at my high schoolstage, because I remember with special
affection that teacher who went in thesummers to volunteer to Central America and then
came back and during the course,then, I organized a session in which

(42:45):
she showed us photos, told usthings about what was going on and what
was the life of those people inanother part of the world. So,
this freaked me out and I thoughtwow. But it is that I have
memories of the teacher' s elementaryschool who probably taught me to read or
with whom soon after learning to read, that is, they are quite old

(43:06):
memories, that she was a womanwho had become a widow and liked to
go on a trip. Then,since she had remained a widow, she
spent a long time making trips andhad a pendant that had been brought from
Egypt, in which she put hername on hieroglyphics. Well, I was

(43:27):
freaking out, I mean, Iwas freaking out and in fact, when
we went to Egypt, I sawit everywhere and it said if it was
a tourist, but at the timeit seemed the most exotic. No.
Then it is clear that since Iwas a little girl, I had a
passion, or I was especially attractedto it. Well, then, the
books I had had given me,because, for example, my aunt who

(43:49):
were a collection, which was calledalready escatalized, which was called the voyages
of Noel. And then, not, for example, he went to India,
he didn' t go to India, he went to New York,
he was another he had, hehad India, he had New York,
he had Egypt. Well, then, to me Egypt and India was freaking
out, no, I mean,I thought it was amazing that there was
a place where cows were sacred,that women had a point on their foreheads,

(44:14):
that is, what' s not. So this search exercise, which
sometimes connects us with things that havebeen traumatic, which is also fine,
because that is the only way sometimesto understand us and be able to analyze
the situation and say good. I' ll take it or work on this,
because I screwed this up. Butat those points of things that were

(44:35):
like wow, there we find alot of our passions and then, as
I said, they can change.They can change. Okay, so let
' s go with my first tippingpoint of this season. Okay, that
' s a time when when Iwas twenty- one years old, because

(44:59):
I kind of realized that the Englishthing, because there was a little bit
more here and besides, I startedstudying English a lot older, because I
studied French. And then, well, since English came into my life later
than most people and in those twenty- one years when I was already studying
advertising, I realized that I neededEnglish, yes or yes, and that

(45:19):
I had a pretty basic English,even if I was going to courses,
etcetera. Well, I thought,hey, I have to go to work
outside, and we organized with severalcollege friends to go to work in England.
And, well, someone told meabout a place called the Isle of

(45:40):
Man that' s not super-known, but for people who like motorcycle
racing because maybe it does, becauseit has an event that happens annually,
which are motorcycle races in which it' s used like the whole island,
as a circuit and they' relike crazy because they go at a lot
of speed. Sometimes there are accidents. And so And well, the island

(46:02):
is famous for this. But besides, it' s an island that'
s a little special because it's inside, let' s say,
the English Crown Government, but it' s independent. Then you have your
own currency, you also have yourown language. It' s a species.
I don' t know if itwill remain, but at the time
it was also a kind of taxhaven. Then there was like enough money.

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Then it was a good place totry to look for work in that
context, that is, well,if there is an event, always,
because there is a need for work, people are needed, hotels, they
need to hire, etcetera. Andthen, with my friends, we decided
to organize that. And along theway, for there was one who said

(46:45):
well, I don' t giveme any time, I don' t
add up and we get there tothe island. Ademan, we' re
two friends. Which usually happens tomake this clear. At that time I
did not know it, but now, with time and with travel, I
have realized that it happens very oftenand is that the beginnings are usually quite
catastrophic, and especially in those momentsof travel in which we had no way

(47:08):
to access so much information. Itis becoming easier to control that arrival and
that landing in which you stick aslut, because more or less, since
you have been able to look overthe Internet, you have been able to
contact the best through forums with foreignerswho live there. You could ask a
little more and have a little moreinformation. But before it was, as

(47:30):
you get there, we took ahostel for the first week and look for
work, look for work you don' t know anyone, start going out
on the street and start knocking doorsbecause there was no other way. So
what happened was, of course,just coming in, because you land in
London. From London, you goto the island of man and it rains

(47:53):
horrible to seas. Although it wassummer, there' s like a tide
where the smell is stinky, thatis, it all sucks. It is
how I have come to stop ata stinking island and for the first time
at twenty- one years, theaccommodation that the man who managed it arrived

(48:16):
at gave us fear directly, thatis, a gentleman, as well as
very large with a face like fewfriends. Then there came two, twenty
- one years old, who leftthe country for the first time. Like
the one who says alone, Idon' t mean, we weren'
t alone with each other, butwithout adults, without other adults. And

(48:38):
then the gentleman in the morning givesyou breakfast that in that moment stirs your
stomach, because it' s likeI can' t believe that these people
have breakfast beans with fried tomato,what things not, then, with everything
we' ve found in life forbreakfast, then you' re waiting for
your croasan or your toaster, andthen he shows up is that there'

(49:00):
s one that stirs your stomach.Added to the smell of algae and everything
else, no Then this is answered. Let' s get into that moment
where, of course, there wasno way, I mean, we didn
' t have watsapp, I mean, I couldn' t communicate with my
parents every day. I had amobile phone we could send us messages for
that month, but the messages werealready worth a bit of money at the

(49:24):
time, or it was like everymessage you sent was already costing you like
a euro. Then you go therewith your student budget, looking at everything.
And then, in that catastrophic beginning. Well, my friend who was
here with me tells me that shealready thinks that this is not a good
place and that she thinks better,because she prefers London. So I didn

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' t want to go to Londonbecause somehow I knew that London was very
full of Spaniards and wanted to bein a place that was more like a
village, a place where I didn' t find Spanish, it was impossible,
because in the end I also foundSpanish. It wasn' t millions,
but also, because I had atthe end my Spanish friends there and

(50:07):
then to me, at that momentit makes me a world in which I
don' t want to leave.I mean, it' s like I
think that' s the place,but I don' t want to be
alone. And then I get totallypanicked. Well, I' m going
to a phone booth. This isthe memory of being in a phone booth
to call my mother who also,because that puts coins in there and hears

(50:29):
how they fall at full speed,because you don' t have much time
for conversation while it rained. Imean, it was kind of like a
movie, after eating sad and cryingand crying like a brat then raining down
the cabin. There and you saymy God, if it' s here
how much rain, how much rainit rains. Sure, it' s
all green, because it' snot free. This green one grows for

(50:52):
something and then I call my motherand tell her look. My friend wants
to go to London. I don' t want to go to London.
That was a failure. I realizedI didn' t find out about anything.
That' s the English I had. It' s not that it
' s basic, it' sjust that it' s very basic.
I don' t understand myself withthe Mr Accommodation when I go to the

(51:12):
places looking for work, because Igo with an idea because I' m
going to work in a clothing storeand I' m going to be facing
the public. Obviously, not becauseI didn' t have enough English to
be in front of the public.So you have to look for a job
that' s much more mechanical,a cleaning job, a job that doesn
' t require you to have sexwith local people, that nobody has to

(51:36):
talk to you, and then yousay no oysters, so I do if
I don' t have a problemworking on whatever that is. I,
for example, cared little, butof course I will be here alone with
this Englishman who is very basic andI will not be able to defend myself
no. Then it' s atime like when fear runs through your body.
No and you say I thought thiswas a failure. So, what

(51:58):
I told my mother was a failure, it was a bad idea. I
' m going to catch the nextplane and go back to Spain. So,
well, at that point, mymom listened to me on the other
side of the booth and then shetold me you don' t even want
to try, I mean, youdon' t want to, I mean,

(52:22):
you' ve been there for twodays and you already want to go
and then I told her already,but I just don' t want to
try to stay alone and I thoughtonly my mother, is that what I
' m going to do no,and then she told me a phrase that
' s the big turning point.Ten minutes to get to this tipping point
that I come back to many timesin my life, when fear invades me,

(52:42):
when suddenly and besides, it isa mental fear, it is not
a fear of something that really assaultsyou. No, it' s not
a fear because a lion comes tochase you, it' s not a
fear that is it' s likeit' s born from your mind,
not that it' s like yourthoughts suddenly at full speed saying this you
can' t do it. Becauseof this, because of this, not
because of this, and then shetold me your life is in danger.

(53:09):
And I thought, well, notreally. So what' s the worst
thing that' s around you rightnow is a man who' s a
little scared of you, who's not really a killer either. I
mean it' s just that it' s not super friendly, that you

(53:32):
don' t have a home,yet you don' t find an accommodation,
because it' s that space itwas to be, because the first
three days, but then you haveto find a house and you still haven
' t found it at home andyou don' t have a job.
Then it' s nothing that affectsor harms the safety of your life.
No, and you' re afraidto be alone. Yeah, I'

(53:54):
m afraid I' m going toget myself clearly and then he said,
well, let' s do onething, let' s hang up the
phone and in a week you callme. He told me to try again.
Only this week is worth telling mesomething very nice, which was if
you come back. If you comeback, that' s if you come

(54:16):
back here in a week, we' re gonna keep thinking about you.
We' re gonna love you anywayWe' re gonna support you anyway.
We' re gonna think he's been super brave for trying. And
well, you' ll come backand that' s it, but know
that when you come back, maybeyou' ll have a nasty feeling that

(54:39):
you didn' t try, thatis, if you catch the plane tomorrow,
because you' re going to havethat feeling, although here we'
re going to wait for you equallywith open arms. If you wait a
week at least and try, maybethat feeling isn' t that unpleasant.
In your case it' s worthit for us. It' s all
right. I agree you told me, because your family is still here,
it' s worth your brothers andit seems to them that your father and

(55:02):
I have been super brave and that' s not it. And then,
nothing, because I hung up thephone, we hung up the phone and
I stood there in the cabin cryingfor a while among the torrential rains that
fell around. And then I said. Well, the next day I have
to start. My friend went toLondon to a plan that was a little

(55:23):
more organized, although in the end, because she didn' t work,
because she didn' t feel likethat need too a little bit is what
is our vision or idea of thetrip each. That was also a great
learning, because it' s howgood you go on a trip with one
person, there are many things thatwe haven' t talked about and that

(55:44):
each one gives, of course,in the head of what the idea of
the other' s trip is.And then, at that moment it was
like oh my God, we eachsee it in a different way. How
it can be no and good andwhat you know. We each see it
in a different way. That doesn' t mean everyone' s life is
cut off here, and that's it. We' re still friends

(56:04):
after the years and besides, she' s one of my best friends,
this girl and I stayed, Istayed, I tried and what happened was
amazing. It wasn' t amazing. The next day, I decided to
go outside and knock on doors tolook for work and to look for a

(56:29):
home. And walking down the street, I met an Englishman who spoke a
little Spanish. I started telling himmy story. I told him I was
looking for accommodation that if I knewany place they could rent, etcetera.
And he said good to me.I live in this house. I'
ve been rented a room. Youwant to come and talk to the owner.
And then the house was a mansionand I arrived. The owner was

(56:52):
an American man who was married toan English woman and had two daughters and
then he said good. I don' t know, we' ve got
some rates and so I said good, because I have this budget. Not
then him. For the first timein my life I was asked the possibility
of bartering and I thought it's clear this can be done. So

(57:15):
he told me well, this budgetyou have is much lower than I usually
rent people here, but I alsoknow what it' s like to start
from scratch. So I want tohelp you. You know Spanish and maybe
you want to teach Spanish to mydaughters two days a week and I said,

(57:36):
of course, yes, and thenI started finding accommodation. It was
a very nice room, it wasa very nice house and it was a
family with which, then, along- term relationship was established. Also,
after another year he was my brother, after another year he was my
cousin. Well, that family wasin my life a long time and I

(57:58):
learned a lot of English from theirdaughters, because it' s having contact
with children. For me it isthe best thing to have contact or to
have a native couple. That's where you learn for sure. And
then, because that' s whathappened, that I stayed there and started
knocking doors at a lot of hotelrestaurants, saying hello, I can make

(58:22):
clean, I can until I gotto a restaurant, to a hotel and
they told me so, right inthe laundry room there' s a girl
who' s leaving next week,so it would be great to come in.
You have experience and I, then, just man in a laundry,
no, but I cleaning and allthis we go that clearly they are aware

(58:44):
that they have no idea, butwell, I entered the laundry. The
girl who was leaving the following weektaught me everything I knew and got a
job in a week. And toall this I also found some Spaniards who
got together from time to time alsoa couple of days a week, a
boy who lived there and gave salsalessons. Funny not to go and learn

(59:09):
to dance salsa to the island.Ademan, because there I learned to dance
salsa and then I had that activitytwice a week where I was with other
people. There were a couple ofSpaniards there, but there were also a
lot of Englishmen and I danced salsaand had a great time. And then,
of course, on the weekends,because we were partying too, so
it took two months of my life. The following week, when I had

(59:32):
that call in the phone booth,it was no longer raining, the sun
had risen, it no longer smelledof pestilence on the island. And when
my mother picked up the phone,she told me well that then you go
back to the end what you're going to do and then I told
her everything that had happened in thatweek, when those times when we didn

(59:54):
' t count everything in real time, I didn' t have to wait
a week. And now I thinkof it as a mother and an eye
for a week without knowing if yourdaughter is crying under a pillow or cutting
her veins, or what' sgoing on there. And it was a
very great learning for life of manythings that I think has been with me

(01:00:15):
for a long time and that manytimes I have thought what kind of people
it would be if all that hadbeen given in a different way. It
was like a very big boost frommy family with respect to family support,

(01:00:35):
but also, on the other hand, how to learn to trust the world
and my abilities to get according towhat things. No, because it wasn
' t really that hard either.Then it wasn' t that hard to
find a job. It could havehappened, but it didn' t happen.

(01:00:57):
So it was like a very biginjection of motivation and trust that accompanies
me to this day and that alsomakes it, somehow, my way of
doing things many times, is tothrow myself in the void sometimes a little
bit and have the feeling that inthat launch. There' s a net

(01:01:22):
that' s gonna catch me inthe fall. Anyway, one day I
look like a slut, but well, I guess in those sluts too,
because there is a learning, becauseat the beginning of this adventure between Comillas
there was a learning and, infact, there was a thought that I

(01:01:43):
came back to many times when Iwas there in England, that was I
had the possibility to come back,but what about all the people that go
and have no chance of coming back. I was thinking of all those people
who get on a plane to crossthe ocean, that is, they'
re not two- hour grandfather fromtheir house, but they' re on
a plane because they' re goingto look for work. You don'

(01:02:07):
t have anyone either, or youhave a contact or you have an idea.
He arrives as well as he canand with that level of vulnerability when
you don' t know how anythingworks and he can' t come back,
he doesn' t have that optionto phone his mom like I had
and say hey Mommy, that Iwant to go home and they tell me

(01:02:29):
well, it' s okay,take a flight back and that' s
it. No problem with all this. Besides, I somehow wanted to make
money that month, because I wantedto pay for that experience. I didn
' t want it to be somethingmy parents paid me for much less.
Then. Well, then, thisis the turning point. I' ll

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leave it here. I' dlove you to tell me in comments.
If you, you, have hadturning points in your life that have accompanied
you in many other moments and thathave brought you back to that phrase that
someone told you or to that experiencein which suddenly a revelation comes to you,

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leave us in comments, your turningpoints to vote soon and this soon.

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What is for me this section,that section c has no concept.
It' s totally random, atotal amispheria, and that' s what
I can think of. Okay,well, it' s just stuff like
that out of the joker. Okay, well, there' s not much
sane about anything here either. So, that' s you soon, because
this is okay, because we're going to talk about this and that

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' s it and for this firstshow of the season I' ve come
to talk to you about what isalgae, do it on the road,
lose weight on the road or becareful. This is a very important issue
because I am a person who secretlytells you that I am quite prone to
taking weight. I' ll getit real quick. I like to eat
the weight, I recognize it,but I also lose it quickly. But

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of course, when we were likethis in a more sedentary, more standing
life, here with the computer boomboom and at most take a child somewhere
with the car as well a taximode and it' s already there.
I get a little oblique. Youknow, I' m starting to widen
here and hear lame weight fast.But on the other hand, I'

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m going on a trip. Hehears wonder around the world. On the
trip we took the round the worldfor a year, the first of all,
six months of trip to have reachedeleven kilos, eleven kilos without doing
anything, that is to say withgood, because to see we were cutting
in food, but I do nothave a memory to have eaten badly.
They didn' t really eat muchout there, there was nothing about sweets,

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because in Asia there are no spectacularthings like that either. And he
hears very well and moving a lot, going up, hiking here, over
there, 11 kilos. I puton go figure now in Morocco, which
is also a little overweight there.Me. Uh, well, then,
in two months we' ve goneunder five, in two months, uh,
there' s no alcohol, there' s no candy, because,

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of course, there' s brownies, there' s something like bac clavas,
but it' s not exactly thatthey don' t like, but
it' s too empalagoso and thenthe ice cream is bad and then,
well, no alcohol, of course, and the food is pretty healthy,
very healthy. They' re aCuscus, Talin and ping Pang are gone.
Then it' s made very easy, because when you' re on

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a trip, then it encourages youto move here, over there. I
don' t know what' sright about it,' cause you feel
like doing things and low weight,but so you don' t know.
So if you want to diet goodssuffer, take a trip. Okay,
if it doesn' t go theway I do,' cause you'
re here covering up on the computer, sitting down, and I have to
make you a cab, it's gonna take the kids. I know
where and you only go if goodsenter the car and that way you inflate
yourself, you inflate yourself, youinflate yourself, and of course, if

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you don' t do something aboutit, you explode and I would love
to, because I don' tknow, do some kind of sport.
I was a pretty gymnasium period,such, but it' s just that
the truth being here costs me alot. I recognize him. Then nothing.
If you see me on a trip, ask me how many kilos I

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lost at the time. And nothingmore for this first chapter. I think
we' ve tried to give everything. We have come back with all the
desire I have, at least Ihave felt this way with desire to crack
in front of the microphone, whichis what I like the most, with
the desire to know what you think, because I believe that it is subjects

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like that that have been thorny andthat, moreover, they have not the
truth in any sense and that,depending on the context, will be one
way or another. And that's all we heard in the next chapter.
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