Siguen las intimidades - 20x9

Y después de 20 programas, se acaba esta temporada 9 tan particular. La despedimos con cierta pena, pero sin perder el ánimo...

- Lo que no volveríamos a hacer: Comprar una furgoneta nueva.
- Miscelánea: Nos hace falta un nuevo viaje largo
- La pregunta que me hace Rubén: Sin datos íntimos o privados… ¿En qué crees que ha cambiado la Lucy de 2011 de la que me enamoré a la Lucy de 2023 sin la que no me imagino el resto del camino?
- La pregunta que me hace Lucy: Conecta con un recuerdo especial de viaje de tu infancia.
- Divagando: Qué hacer para no sentir que tenemos que salvar el mundo.
- Un día para el recuerdo: Aquel en el que me di cuenta de que tenía un alma gemela completamente diferente a mí.

Recuerda, si te gusta lo que oyes, comenta, dale al like, suscríbete, recomiéndanos a quien creas que le gustaría venirse de viaje con nosotros y todas esas cosas.

Ya sabes que confiamos en Chapka para nuestros seguros médicos en viaje lo cual es imprescindible, ya que cualquier pequeño susto, te puede costar más que el viaje entero. Lo que sí deberías de saber es que te ofrecen un 7% de descuento al contratar un seguro de viajes con ellos usando el código MUNDO entrando en el siguiente link: https://www.chapkadirect.es/?app=cd_aqr

Ah, y si te encanta este podcast, quizás también te apetezca viajar con las orejas con nuestro otro podcast Overlanders en el que le damos once palabras a grandes viajeros y viajeras que, con ellas, nos llevan a sus experiencias, lugares, aprendizajes, anécdotas, etc…: https://www.spreaker.com/show/overlanders

Por otra parte, quizás te pueda interesar ver alguno de nuestros cortometrajes o documentales viajeros:

- El síndrome del eterno viajero I: https://youtu.be/7dKGcg_jBhw
- El síndrome del eterno viajero II: https://youtu.be/uq5uQCFrNGw
- Hola, Mundo (el documental): https://youtu.be/rGSLv0PjgF0
- Around Them: https://youtu.be/ihFFgWMcdNE

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¡Hasta la próxima temporada!

Lucy&Rubén

Episode Transcript

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You are listening to Hello World thepodcast of Rubén Señor and Lucía Sánchez,
creators of the travel blog something toremember dot com hello. Welcome, welcome

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to this show. Dan ver tuention the nine twenty of season nine,
Mother, we' ve been extendedhere with this season. We' ve
been there and we' ve screwedup season nine because I was really liking
it, because we' ve gota taste for this format. Also because
it makes life a lot easier forus it' s worth while I'
m here with you, now you' re counting on each other here chaping

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the ear Luci is with the kidsand then, automatically she when I'
m talking, I' ll bewith the kids. Let' s do
this with each section. Evidently,each one records his own and then others
his own. Then we mix itup, but it' s the only
way to record these podcasts right now. Okay then what' s going to
happen to season ten. There's going to be changes, there'
s going to be changes. Allright, let' s shake it all
up here again. I still don' t know what it' s gonna

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be like, but there' sgonna be changes, there' s gonna
be changes, and we' regonna try. I don' t know
what hitch. I don' tknow, too. I just don'
t know. We haven' tthought about it yet. We' ve
thought about it, but that'll happen to you because we like it,
we like about the changes and thatthere' s a little bit that
you get, yeah, a littlebit and then I imagine I also tell

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you feel your people that suddenly startwith this program you know, but these
people, but this is what it' s about and then it goes to
season five and listen to something elseand it says but this thing that they
' re traveling and then the seasongoes. Nothing to see, so if
you analyze it well, this podcastprogram is like eight different ones. You
know because nothing makes sense, it' s just crazy. You know how
it comes, there' s noformatting. So you say you can follow

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the only thing, the only thingthat' s there is always lucillos,
there' s nothing. Everything else. You haven' t heard two seasons,
you haven' t heard from thebeginning what you' re going to
see how it has nothing to dowith it. You know it' s
going to entertain you, because it' s a very different thing. Well,
then, nothing that ten we're going to change everything, so
nothing we' re going to dowith this last season' s program nine

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eight, seven, six, five, which we wouldn' t make buy
a new van again. Well,it made sense at the time that we
didn' t know anything about mechanicsfirst. Well, the truth is,
I think we still don' tknow much, but we didn' t

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know very well how to function,how to live. And it is true
that at that time, because buyingyou a second- hand van involves letting
go of all the money and buyingit first- hand, because the option
of good, because I can financeand I pay it in installments, which
was our option at that time.And what happened, because it is true
that after living, a couple ofyears in the van, traveling with her,

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making several long trips, I wouldnot buy a new one again because
it is true that of course,things come already, because pre done,
not intended for you, and thenthere are things that you would like to
be otherwise. We have also alreadyentered many vans. Then we have seen
the possibility of solving, because accordingto which problems of space in different ways

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and then that in the end,of course, the new van is so
fantastic and everything is so highly thoughtout in an electronic way that this when
you travel through Europe, because itis fine, but leaving Europe already starts
to be a problem for that van, because really anything you want to fix,

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because it is going to be amove and this to me, for
example, generated me as much discomfort. I mean, with these vans,
we can only be around Europe,because if we leave Europe, it gets
messed up, I don' tknow what. You can' t put
the machine that looks at where thepilot that jumped is, what' s
gone wrong. Or we get thepieces because you' re a German camperization
and you' re going to tellhim in the middle of Mauritania to send

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you a piece. Not then.I think that if we buy another van
that I hope, at some pointwe will travel in a van again,
we are also now more like abackpack, but hopefully, at some point
we will buy another one that willhave other dimensions. Because it' s
also true that by the time wewere four, we were a little short

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on the part of the cabin.You didn' t have a living room.
Of course, in the end yourealize you' re saying it'
s not the same. You're going on a weekend and you'
re worth all so much super good, if you in the background cook bed,
I don' t know what fantasticping panpo a week, almost all
two weeks. Eye lives inside ofFurgoneta, two years that already there are

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things that start to touch the nosessay your jolin is that I don'
t have a living room in whichI can work minimally. I' m
not talking about a space for youalone anymore, but a table where you
can sit or when we' retravelling a long time, because if it
rains out suddenly, because inside wecan only lie in the beds, we
have no more space. Not thenis there a series of things that you

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are discovering based on the use thatyou are giving to the vehicle and that
we were discovering and that it istrue that being a van that was super
good, because there were already timeswhen we were a little limited with what
things and things that you find fantasticthat you say oysters to give. The

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turn to the fabulous front seats andthen it was like jo every time you
had to eat then turn the seatsin front. In the end in those
seats to work is super uncomfortable,because they are thought to drive, but
not so much for you to feel. There it was almost more comfortable to
take a camping chair and sit withthe computer in the camping chair. So
maybe a person who won' twork the r inside the van, because
he' s doing super well thoseseats, but we don' t then

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well, because I think if hedoesn' t camp, I don'
t think he' ll convince Rubénto camp, although I' m sure
he' d do well, ifwhat happens to him is that sometimes he
wants to be so perfect, becausehe doesn' t give rise to the
mistake, then he' s sureto camp a van and the van'

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s fucking bulldozing her, you know, but it gives her a respect.
But if I don' t convincehim to camp, I do think we
' ll buy a second hand fromsomeone who' s traveled with her for
as long as you say. Well, sort of. We' re on
the same roll, on the samewave, and that' s what ours
is. I don' t know, I see it far away right now

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from the van, I see itfar away, because now we' re
looking forward to backpacking. The truthand these last trips to Morocco that have
been like backpack have, as ithas answered them very well and we have
felt very good all four. Thensurely there will come a time when the
body asks us something else, becausewe are like this, we are very

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stages, but right now we aremore backpacking, although I think we will
return to Furgo ol yes de karWho knows, Who knows, Miscellanea.
We need a long new trip.I firmly believe that. We need a

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long but long new journey, thatis, the last good long one was
the one we did in Furgo toNorway, which was seven months. It
was a long time worth, butnot for that of h We have been
a year or two years and asin record plan, not but for the
feeling you know of the long trip, I travel something of not having the

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date back in any case, forno project or anything, but that you
throw and already see it. Okay. It' s a long trip,
so even if there isn' ta good date back, I don'
t have to come back to be. I don' t know where,
' cause when I fall, yousee, buy the ticket. No.
The pure length is fine, yes, I didn' t just make it
up and right now. But thelong no turn for real, then of

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course we' re involved in programmedgo not for real. Notice that we
have said many times the return ispart of the journey. We' ve
been so fond of you. Welove to go back to Spain, we
love to go back to adventure.We made a short talk about this,
sheepdozer syndrome two. One of theprettiest things we' ve ever done according
to my taste. I love everythingthat' s told there You tell it.

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It' s like you really haveto have traveled long to get hit.
If you don' t tell mewhat' s going on. If
you' ve traveled long, youhave to see it. Then the turn
we love, but the thing aboutgoing so well and the good long trip,
if I would like one and longor long that I have said to
the light I have not yet commented, the hearing and if we repeat now
with the children about the first trip, what we did the one year,

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from the round the world and wedo the exact same thing, well,
so fuck their heads. I've told you one, uh, but
it' s just so funny toremind you, too, and to see
the face you' re looking atthen, not good is that, but
you already have a lot. Metoo in traveling Africa. He said,
after all, to the cairo orthe other way around, and well,
other trips are pan- American.There it is, there' s a
good reason. That' s tomake it long, because you can'

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t make it short on those trips. No, it' ll fall,
it' ll fall in later.So nothing, a long trip is already
playing, already playing. Now thatwe' re back a little bit.
The backpack we want. It's okay because we' ve been a
little bit saturated with Europe, thetruth is, a little bit, a
little bit. Very well culture andsuch, but there are other things that

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are made. A little nightmare.It' s okay because people are going
a little bit serious, a lotof people are going to go, because
you don' t like Europe.Well, stay in Rabat or stay well
Don' t worry about it.What' s not it about? But
you take a walk for me.What do I know about Puerto Rico?
You know, there' s aSunday, people music, and there'

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s one thing there, you know. In other places people greet you,
ask you I want to help you. In many countries of Europe people are
like they' ve put one outthere. You know a face, a
little bitter, bitter, as wellas bothering your presence. If you go
with kids, I don' teven tell you I' ll go down
with kids and it looks like you' ve committed a crime. You taste

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like a face. Yeah, hegot on the bus because the kid stands
up in the chair and he's screaming. The kid' s doing
it. I don' t knowwhat, of course he' s a
kid. You know a girl,and that' s what kids do,
except those who are very trained,that I am, they don' t
do anything anymore. This gives foranother podcast. I don' t rule
it out for next season,'cause you' re turning me on.

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You know, you throw me inthere because you throw this at me.
You know I' m gonna getin there. You know, you show
me red trap and I' llgo, I' ll go. It
' s not right to do that, you know, don' t do
that to me remember to buy meclothes or give a hug that I'
ve been telling you no more angryman, the question that Ruben asks me

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without giving intimate or private data,what you think has changed the light and
two thousand eleven of which I fellin love with the light and two thousand
twenty- three without which I can' t imagine the rest of the way,
because I think I' m thedigivolution of myself. I think it
was better like good wine. Ithink I' m more patient, less

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impulsive. I think I' mmore even though I look more inward to
myself, but I think I'm more connected to what' s going
on outside. I think it usedto be the other way around. I
don' t think he used tolook at me very little inwards and live,

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however, a lot of disconnection withwhat was outside. Many things have
changed, for it is clear.I think you already know. There are
already studies of how the brain changesto mothers, motherhood biologically, physically at
all hormone levels. This neurol pruningthing I love I' ve made it

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a lot more efficient. I mean, I was a very scattered person,
and it' s not that Iam. I' m still scattered,
as you can see, as Iroll, as blinds, but I'
m much more efficient. In general, I can optimize my time better.
I do more things in less timeand I think I know how to prioritize

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better than before. So, well, I hope that this digitation of myself,
because with this feeling that I havethat it is an improved version,
because you also have it I don' t know, because there are people
who along the clear path as weare changing, because it says that they
really don' t. No.I think you' ve improved quite a

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bit, too. The truth.I think you' re also your self
- digitation, but I like iteven more than before, is that I
think without going into intimate data,I' m going to go into an
intimate data. I think our relationshipstart was very chemical, it was very

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very chemical and very physical. Bothlooks like a series after lunch, but
it did. It was like avery animal attraction and very irrational. And
everything else has been built later andmany times, when you remove that part

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of attraction, if you haven't built anything, there' s nothing,
but I think what we' vebuilt is almost better than that part.
Saying it' s still, Imean, no, I don'
t think it' s paid,but I don' t think we'
d get close to each other thinkingabout it, because the truth that this

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person seems like very interesting inside,or I think it wasn' t,
that is, I think there wasa work context and a context there where
there was sexual tension in the environment. And you say hey, because that
' s what the body tells you, it' s not how that person
physically attracts you, and that's it, and you go after that

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person, and then the rest comes. I mean, it could have gone
off another completely different course. Buteye notice, how wise the body is.
No. If you ask us whichcountry you can go to, we
probably won' t answer you,because it' s a matter of taste.
I have time budget available. Butif you ask us if you should
carry health insurance, the answer isyes. Always without any doubt, traveling

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or. The question Lucy asks meconnects with a special travel memory of your
childhood, as I remember a lotof a trip that my mother and father,
my brother and I made in Caracross the Peninsula. I was a
teenager, I' d almost sayhandsome, and my brother was very cannijo.

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Okay, and I remember that thatwas also the year of the Espo
of the Olympics. You know thenit was like very walking, because everyone,
because we went from the Canary Islandsand touring the whole coast to Barcelona
and flying through Seville and going downand I don' t know how I

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have the taste of like colors,smells, that taste. Not there like
I can almost like it again.Then, the only catch is that by
the end of the trip we caughta fine hepatitis in Cadiz. It was,
I think, with a mayonnaise orsomething that I was in the Canary
Islands, very bad with hepatitis.I dropped ten kilos. I got yellow,
but like my eyes, yellow wasthe only thing. But look,

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I' m already immunized in quotationmarks and fine, but everything before had
great, I mean, the trip. I loved it, I loved it
and I remember a very big catetez, which is when I went to Cádiz
and cade de Sevilla by the highway. This one that there is would say
taking pictures of the highway because ofcourse I saw green and you play.

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You touched a 20- photo reel. Twenty- four photos on the highway.
You know, please, the oldanalog movie I had the picture and
what, what? What happened herethat you got caught by the camera by
a monkey, or what, wellthat was me hallucinating a little Paco martínezso
Ya saba hallucinating with the big citythat I don' t think, with
the road. You know we alsohave roads in Canales, but they didn

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' t look so pretty at thetime. I know he wasn' t
a kid, well, I tooka lot of pictures of him and that
' s it, then nothing.I remember quite a bit about that trip,
actually. There' s little picturesout there and they' re kind
of cute. A Rock Trip familytrip, as it was more than a
month and a half, I believemore or less, and to go stopping

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in places and sleeping each time ina place, as we advanced, so
it' s a little bit forwhat we have now you know I'
m going to tell you. Soyes, yes, I remember a lot
about that trip, the truth,wandering what to do so that we don

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' t feel that we have tosave the world, for this has also
been a little job, a littlemental work, because at first, when
you go on a trip and comeand see injustices and you see garbage and
you see according to what things yousay my God I mean this I have
to take care of it. No, I can' t leave this half

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way through here without pity or glory, as if nothing had happened, as
if I hadn' t seen anything. And it comes in like a feeling
there that you' re the saviorof the world. And that, then,
in the end, we have togo back to it little by little,
realizing that sometimes, besides, eventhings that we do believing that we

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are going to save the world,we spoil it even more, because to
save the world look at what complexitywe don' t get to a place,
to a place, because if wecan throw ourselves all our life knowing
our own country, because imagine aculture in which you are alien to that

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culture and your values are different,your priorities are different, everything is different,
and you, from the outside,consider that there what you have to
do is ex then clear to beable to reach a place and invest in
understanding, to understand all the complexityof that culture to know exactly what you

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need and how you can save thosepeople, because it is complicated, although
this leads me, for example,to initiatives, as Trip Drop, in
which I agree that one of thestories with which they talked about what their
work is, the work of atraveler that takes something from a place and
that usually leads me through organizations,through schools, institutions of that place,

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that I do not actually, thatthey would find an example of a group
that they would be a group,that they would have, that they would
have, that they would have,that they would find an example, that
they would be, that they wouldhave, that they would be, that
they would be, And how mucha goat costs, because maybe a goat

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costs a hundred euros. I aminventing it completely worth how much it costs
us to stay here a thousand eurosso that we cannot convince ten people or
tell ten people to the reality thatif we give it one hundred euros to
buy one hundred ten goats from tenmore women, we will change the life

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of your family and we will giveit a livelihood, because it is relatively
easy that we can achieve it.Not that we say this birthday, instead
of giving me things, you're gonna give me a goat for one
more family. There is and thenthis the story, the story with which

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they somehow explained this work they doat Trip Drop, which is this website
that puts in contact with needs inanother world with people who are going to
travel. It was that of aboy who was who had found a beach

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full of starfish that the sea hadspit them out and was throwing them one
by one into the sea. Andsomeone comes by and tells him why you
throw them away. Yeah, you' re not gonna be able to save
everyone anyway, you' re notwasting your time. No and he says

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well, for this star he grabsone with his hand and says for this
star, yes, it' simportant not. And he throws it away,
that is, for this one thatI am going to save, yes,
this gesture is important for many othersthat I have not been able to
save. No. So many timesI go back to that story and think

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about what that little act can bethat we can make it really make a
difference, but it' s veryhard to know what it is when we
' re passing through, when wetake a trip, we go through there
and we think that maybe handing outsome candy or whatever, and it depends

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on how complex this topic is.So you have to assume somehow that,
before trying to save the world,there' s a process, I think
we' ll be very well informedif what we' re going to do
is really going to help or it' s going to generate more discomfort or
it' s going to generate.Well, that' s not going to

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take toys to a country where itturns out that nobody has toys and the
kids are so happy because in thatcontext, that is, they' re
not so happy about not having toys, but in that context, and this
has happened to us, because we' re in a place where there'
s practically no whims, so tospeak, gastronomic, and you' re

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there and you' re not missingit because in the context there isn'
t. You' re not seeingother people who are consuming. That'
s complicated when you come to apart of the world where there are a
lot of options, in supermarkets,shopping malls, huge escape ates and all
that is impacts that are calling youto consumption and that you see around you

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that people buy and enjoy and seemhappy about that. So, that'
s complicated to manage. Not thereis frustration and discomfort. So, maybe
I' ll go to me withmy good intention and say I' m
going to send toys to such aplace where I' ve seen that there
are no toys and I' mcreating a need that didn' t exist

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and I' m, maybe,generating situations, of then, of discussions
between the best brothers that before oneno one had any toys and now,
suddenly, one does and the otherdoesn' t. Where we put the
cut, we' re going tobe able to bring toys absolutely to all
the children of this place, butthen, all of a sudden, to

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the people next door who are goingto come and see it, that is,
all these things that are sometimes alittle bit there and that when we
just go, we get, wedo, we go, because we don
' t see, we don't and they' re complex. So
maybe anchoring ourselves in that thought,in the thought of what you might do,

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instead of fixing something, will screwyou up more. I' m
going to ask first because it canbe like a brake so that we don
' t feel guilty and, aboveall, to rebuke a little bit that
craving for I' m going tofix this, I' m going to

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put a patch here, I'm going to fix it this way quickly
to feel good. I don't, too, because this also makes
us happy not to help others,which is super human. But look at
the aids that sometimes, because theyare not so much help. One day

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for remembrance that I realized that Ihad a soul mate completely different from me
and I' m talking about You, Lucy, I' m talking about
you, that is, you're a soul mate in yourself and in
you or reduced, because you're more of a little teasing, but

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in all your being full of energy, of goodness, of good vibe,
of happiness, of innocence and you' re the most twin, because you
understand life as I' m goingto tell you, but we do a
lot of danger, I lucy becausehere we each release an idea to everyone
more crazy than you say yes,then of course we find someone who understands

(27:30):
life on the way in that clearway as you are a gift. Then
there' s the day to daythat we don' t look like anything.
You know water and oil, whateveryou say. So listen, for
this nothing for one award to another. I mean nothing. I' m
not going to go into details,because I' m not here either the

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rags, you know, or clean. That' s the same thing,
but we have nothing to do withit, so Hopero' s day is
the important thing. I believe inthe cription. That' s right,
so of course, hear that ifwe' re going to talk about where
it comes from, hear that ifwe do hey we buy in a house
okay or we buy this, theother we sell the others how we do.
Yeah, I mean, that's unpayable to find a magemela that

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understands life, that shares it thatway, okay, and I think I
' m gonna tell you, too, and this is studied. We have
commented many times that the fact thatwe are so different, because it makes
us fit, because we contribute alot. So, sure, but then
the opposites and all of this don' t, but it' s that
if we were both like me,well, and if we were both like

(28:40):
Lucy, well, I' mnot saying that any good is better or
worse than the other. Okay.But of course the whole list has come
to my mind that I' mnot going to comment here, but,
my mother, I mean, thiswould mean, I don' t want
to tell you. On the onehand, you know, extreme punctuality,
I don' t know what it' s all like, more sloppy,

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rigid metodicom boom boom plus cybor asLucy says. On the other hand,
Happy Flower, that well we're already seeing everything, I mean,
that you know it' s onething I was going to say a happy
thing, but no, no,no, it' s also a little
bit. Sometimes it' s justthat she doesn' t find the word,

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but I think she' s puttinga word against me, because then
Lucy hears it or someone who knowsus, imagine, you know, but
it would be a little bit ofa dispersion. Let' s just leave
it there. A little bit ofoverdispersal, so nothing. This formula is
working for us and that' sit, so nothing. Soul mate we

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continue the road fire the schedule andthe season. And with this, then,
we are going to say goodbye tothe program and the season, the
season that we have lasted two seasonswith this format and that I think it
deserves a change already. So thenext season, because after a mini rest,

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it won' t be much,because the truth is that we have
come with the desire of micros,because we will launch new sections and we
will give you the sheet with newsongs. Thank you so much for being
there, another season with us anduntil the next chapter. Bye. If

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Something to remember traveling with Baby andtraveling fools. You know, you can

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