Beyond the Law (1993)

This week on Hollywood Hangout. David takes you on a ride into the 1993 true story of Beyond the Law. Charlie Sheen plays a troubled cop who gets fired, then recruited by feds to go undercover and take down the outlaw motorcycle club The Jackals. This movie is a great story, and the movie still holds up today.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, down to business. I got my wild cherry dying
PEPSI and uh, I got my black jack come here,
and I got that feeling, Yeah, that familiar feeling that
something rank is going down out there. A funny how

(00:23):
I mean funny like I'm a clowny amuse you, I
make you laugh. I'm here to fucking amuse you.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
How to fuck?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Am I funny?

Speaker 4 (00:29):
What the fuck is so funny about me?

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Tell me?

Speaker 6 (00:31):
Tell me what's fun.

Speaker 7 (00:38):
Oh me, sir, God damn it.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
Brothers, don't shake hands, brothers got a fuck.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Come out of the cools, get together, have.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
A few lifts.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
As far back as I can remember, I always wanted
to be a gangster.

Speaker 7 (01:07):
Have you ever seen a grown man naked? Can anybody move?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'll blow your fucking head off.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
And the medica doctor says, oh my god, I'm a
hucking batter.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Advice to you just start drinking heavily, put that coffee down.

Speaker 7 (01:34):
Well, any of this calls the old billy bruel.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
If you'd been.

Speaker 8 (01:40):
The royal penis is clean, Your highness, Hey.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
Where are the white women at you became? Motherfucker? M h.
It's over, Johnny, It's over.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
Alright, alright, alright, folks, we should be streaming right now
live on YouTube. Actually I don't even need the headphones
right now. I get the headphones back on when I
start playing some actual clips, which I will do in
just a little while here. But so, yeah, decided to
try out YouTube once again since I sort of changing
up the format of the show a little bit. So

(02:25):
I decided i'd try to change up a little bit.
I obviously tweaked the set up a little bit. For
those of you on YouTube right now checking this bad
Boy out, you see, I tweak that set up a
little bit.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
I think it's kind of fun. Makes it look movie
like almost, So anyway, there you go. But yeah, anyway,
I am David Richardson. Appreciate everybody joining me right here.
Whoever's gonna watch this, thank you very much. Listeners, thank
you very much too. And this is gonna be This
is gonna be a good one. This is a true
story that I'm actually gonna be I can hear, and

(03:01):
I always like talking true stories. It's easier to you
don't have to worry about blurring those fact and fiction lines.
Most I mean, most of this movie is true, of course,
like every you know, every true story, there's a little
bit embellishment, there's a little fact, a little fiction. This

(03:21):
story is no different really. But I'm gonna be talking
in just a few minutes, after I do plugs and
get a few things out of the way, I will
be talking nineteen ninety three Beyond the Law, about a
police officer, well former police officer, who was picked up
by the FBI and set out to take down a

(03:43):
biker gang out in the desert of Arizona. Out there,
a dangerous bike biker gang. So we'll be going through
all that right there now. I did try Wednesday night
for the wrestling show to use YouTube and didn't realize
when you use studio, you have to tick the picture
over to the other side. I didn't know this because

(04:08):
I am old and I'm still learning. But I now
know that I need to tick the picture over, which
means then everybody can see these lovely pictures. And that
is the movie I'll be doing in just a few
minutes here, which is once again up nineteen ninety three
Beyond the Law. You see, Charlie Sheen, that's this picture
we see here is kind of the third incarnation, kind

(04:30):
of incarnation of what we get out of this movie
of Charlie Sheen and the character he's playing, the undercover cop.
You see, he got the almost got the beard going,
he's got the mullet going. Was trying to look a
little a little different obviously for the part of the movie,

(04:51):
and he had to because people were recognizing him. He
had a brig Charlie Sheen has a baby face, and
they kind of they don't poke fun at it in
this movie, but they kind of to make it a
point to mention that he's got a little baby face.
So so anyway, we're gonna keep rolling along. You're gonna
drop that picture off of there. Now you're back to me.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
So there we go. I did figure that out, so
that's a good thing. And knockout plugs real fast. Don't
really not gonna put any movie or any music behind
him because I don't want to get in trouble. I'm
just gonna run through them real quick. Want you guys
to check out the high Marks that's Cheeseman, Mojo and
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(05:35):
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over there on Spotify. They are the weekly Detour. If
you don't have Spotify, you don't want to mess with Spotify,
google them. You will find them in other places like player,

(05:56):
dot fm and other platforms. Check it out. So Steve
Milan over there, he's reviewing films two over ten thousand
films reviewed at letterbox to blexd dot com, slash Stephen Milan,
don't forget to check out Steven over there too. Else
in his last name, So so don't forget to go
over there and see what he's doing.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
And there you go.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Like I said, that's really all I needed to get done.
We are going to be, like I said, talking this movie.
I really this is one of the I really like
this movie. I really enjoy this movie. It's like I said,
first of all, it's a true story. And I've I
just said, I like talking true stories. You don't need

(06:39):
to sit there and like I said, go through that
whole thing on Oh is it?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
This is it?

Speaker 5 (06:44):
That what's true, what's not. Most of this is true.
Most of this movie is a true story. Like I said,
some of the names and stuff were changed, like every
true story out there, especially ones that involve it undercover
police officers. But this movie here, roughly eighteen thousand was

(07:05):
the budget. I'll be honest. It was hard to find
an actual box office on this movie. I don't know
how well it did. The critics didn't take wonderfully to
this movie, as they never do. But this was a
definitely a different kind of movie, if you will. But

(07:28):
this was a Larry Ferguson movie. Now, Larry Ferguson has
done a few other movies like The Hunt for Red October.
Probably heard of that one. Matter of fact, I talked
Rollerball a couple of months ago, a few months ago
at this point, the newer two thousand and two. He
also wrote that Alien three, Beverly Hills Cop two. Those

(07:50):
are The Highlander from nineteen eighty six to the original.
So he's definitely written some good movies, a few that
I've definitely seen and one I've already reviewed. So we're
right back into the whole thing here. And he actually
does play one character in this movie. He actually plays
the racist sheriff, which we'll get to. Matter of fact,

(08:12):
I can show you a quick picture of what he
looks like in the movie, real quick. We can go
ahead and tick that over here. That's him right there,
old Larry Ferguson. But we'll get to all this, this
whole thing of the whole movie. But like I said,
I kind of got it a little different. I'm not
going to go through and do the whole scene by scene,
clip by clip. I do have a few clips to play.

(08:35):
I'm gonna play a few as I'm talking. I'm gonna
play a few as I go through the movie. A
little bit movie is about an hour and forty six minutes.
Not that long of a movie. I'm not expecting to
be on that long, to be honest with you. But
I do got a lot of little tidbits and information
I hope you all like about this movie. So I

(08:57):
guess you know, I'm kind of looking around here. Let's
get at a little bit of talking done into the
background and a few things of this movie first, and
then we'll get into the meat of the movie. Obviously,
like I said, you know, many biker films have come
out as matter of fact, this film made me watch
the nineteen ninety one Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth. And

(09:22):
let me tell you, when you watch this movie and
then you go back and you watch that Brian Bosworth movie,
I can tell you right now, this movie's a lot better.
The Brian Bosworth movie doesn't hold up very well. I
like that movie. It's got William Forsyth, who is an
incredible actor. I mean, the guy has been in you know,
I mean started back in the eighties with Steven Segal.

(09:44):
He's been in the he was in Gotti with the
Armando Armando Sante Gotti. It's been in a ton of movies.
This guy even did the Second the First Deuce, Bigelo.
The guy can do comedy that I can do about anything.
He is a really, really great actor, William Forsyth. But
he can be anything from a fucking madman gangster to

(10:07):
a comedic cop, whatever you want him to be. But
he's in it and that Stone Cold movie. There's been
plenty of biker movies out there, even I mean even
not just about you know, Harley's and stuff, definitely other
biker movies, but this one again is unique for the
true story that is told. Again names and stuff as

(10:30):
usual changed in a lot of these true story movies.
That's not a big deal really, but it's about the
story of Daniel Black, who had actually Daniel Saxon. In
this movie, now they do bring up his past of
being Daniel Black. He changed that name because he had
an uncle who was very abusive. This movie actually starts

(10:51):
off with a scene of the uncle abusing him, handcuffed
to a chair. The uncle would beat him to all
kinds of things. So it was definitely a, you know,
a dark beginning right in this movie. But he did
infiltrate the notorious outlaw motorcycle club which it's called the

(11:13):
Jackals in the movie, which Michael Madson is the leader of.
We'll get into the actors in just a few minutes here.
As we kind of get you know what, we can
stop right there and get into the actors real quick.
There's really not that many actors we really need to
go through. I'll be honest with you. We've got a
few in this movie. We've got Charlie Sheen, who we've

(11:34):
talked about before on one of these shows. If you
we did men at Work, me and Anthony, but Charlie
Sheen obviously known for so many things. We saw him
as a young kid in Ferris Buehler's Day Off. We've
seen him and like I said, Men at Work two
and a half, Men Wall Street, which is another one
we've reviewed on this show. The original pretty much get tears,

(11:56):
hot shots, hot shots, pipe du and so many other things.
I mean, the guy has just worked. So I mean, yeah,
eighty seven credits to his name. But back in those
days he did some very very powerful movies. So Charlie
Sheen is in this movie. Like I said, we get
a few incarnations of Charlie Sheen. Linda Fiorn Fiorentino, who

(12:19):
you know, another one who kind of quality over quantity
when it comes to her career. Not known for many
many things, known mainly for this movie Men in Black,
who she played Laurel, which was the woman of the
movie obviously, and Dogma who she played Bethany, which was

(12:41):
the main character in the movie. But I mean, honestly,
she's only got thirty credits to her name, but a
very you know, infact, what she's in and the part
she plays are very big and the movie she's in
do very well, So she really, like I said, it's
more of the quality over quantity. So there we go.

(13:04):
We got Michael Madson. Obviously, the last last bit of
news I heard about Michael Madson was back in January,
late January, when his son Hudson took his own life.
Obviously tragic, but that's really all I've heard from him
right now. He does have a ton, My god, he's

(13:26):
got so much stuff completed, in post production, announced, pre production, filming,
let's see completed one, two, three, three, completed post production one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven filming, two, one in pre production, and one announced.

(13:48):
So we're going to see a lot more Michael Madsen
as the days go out. But I mean obviously known
for Reservoir Dogs, and it was Mister Blonde or Vic
Kill Bill, the Hateful Eight, as much so many other things.
Michael Madson is just a badass. When it comes to actors.
We got a few more actors I'm gonna go through
in here. We got Courtney b Vance, another guy who

(14:10):
plays an FBI agent in here. Courtney b Vance known
for a few things, the Hunt for Red October, as
I mentioned before, Dangerous Mind Space, Cowboys. He was also
an American crime story and been to him, does a
lot of TV stuff. Matter of fact, he was in
sixty first Street, Genius in twenty twenty one, Lovecraft Country

(14:34):
in twenty twenty so and you know I was obviously
I said American Crime Story from twenty sixteen, so he's
in there. But so there we go with that with
Courtney b Vance, and we'll get pictures of all these
as we go along. I just want to kind of
rattle off who we're talking about. In the movie. We
have Leon Rippy, who plays Virgil. Now you have seen

(14:55):
this guy. He does not look like he looks in
this movie. He's a crazy looking motorcycle man in this movie.
But have you ever seen the movie Gridirn Gang.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
He is in that.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
He's in Deadwood. He was Tom Nuttle in Deadwood. So
if you watch that show, you did see him. He
was in the Blacklist. He played Hunter in four episodes.
So this man, I mean, he's done a lot of
TV series. He was even in Leverage if you saw
that show back in the day, he was in about

(15:28):
five or six episodes of that. But the movie I
mainly remember him from after this movie is that rock
movie Gridirn Gang. Sorry I blanked there for a second,
but again we'll get some pictures of all these as
we go. We have Dennis Berkeley as Oatmeal. This guy

(15:48):
has been in so many TV shows, in movies you
don't even you don't know you know him, but you
know him. He was in The Doors, he was Dog.
We talked about him in that movie. We talked Hollywood Homicide,
Stop My Mom Will Shoot, among one hundred and thirty
some odd other credits. This guy has been in from
TV to movie to just everything in the world, and

(16:13):
even lends his voice to some cartoons and games. He's
been in everything, this guy and we will He plays
Oatmeal in this movie. And if you want my little
NYPD Blue reference there, this gentleman was in one. He
played a biker named Pig. That makes sense when you
see him later, you're gonna go yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(16:35):
he played a biker named Pig. And we've got rip
Torn in this movie. Obviously I mentioned Rip Torn, I
mentioned Linda Fiorentino being in Men in Black. Those two
did go on to work together both in Men in Black.
Rip Torn obviously was the Boston Men in Black. And
we've got Reno thunder Bogus Charlie who is not only

(16:57):
in this movie a couple of times, but the scenes
he has in this movie are sort of pivotal to
the whole movie. He was in hot Shots. He was
with Charlie Sheen, Charlie Sheen that actually recommended him for
this part. He's really only been in eight credits eight movies,
and hot Shots Beyond the Law are two of the

(17:20):
main things that he was in. So last thing he
did was in two thousand and two and There you Go.
So he did pass Away in two thousand and three,
so There you Go was born in nineteen thirty five,
so you know, but it makes sense. So there we go.
We're gonna definitely talk a little bit about Bobie was

(17:41):
Charlie in this movie though, So there we go. We
got all the actors and actress done, and I'm gonna
go ahead and get us right now back into some
of these little details about this movie. So, this movie,
like I said, based on a true story. But it's
amazing how they came upon the story for this true story.

(18:02):
It was an article published in a Playboy magazine in
July of nineteen eighty one. Because you and I and
all the other guys out there and girls read read
Playboy for the articles. I mean, that's that's what it's for.
It's for, right, the articles. So that's what they did.

(18:24):
They found this article in a movie or in the Playboy,
and they went through and the character in the story
is actually, like I said, named Dan Black. He was
one of the technical advisors on the film. He was
also one of the extras. I'll tell you it's tough
to pick out which scene he's in, but there is

(18:47):
a scene where they're all doing like a bike run
and there's a bunch of bikes. He's supposedly in one
of those scenes on one of the bikes. Now, to
add to this film's, you know, the realism of this film,
there was actually a biker gang in Arizona called the
Dirty Dozen, who also served as technical advisors. But really,

(19:14):
I mean the main difference in the movie and the
truth is the elapsed time. In the movie, sid gets
very close to blood in a very very short time
where Daniel Black, the actual undercover agent. This was over
an eighteen month period before he even got close to

(19:36):
making it. But I mean we obviously see a shortened
down version of like I said, an hour and forty
seven minutes, So they had to speed up things, and
they did. They went through it. You know, they did
some montages and stuff like the eighties and nineties movies
all did. But it was definitely, definitely, you know, more

(19:58):
of a true story than and most of the true
stories you would get into. But luckily it was Larry
Ferguson who read the piece and decided to pick up
and do this movie. He loved the story, he thought
it was a great story. Thought it was just a
whole little just something that he could dig sink his

(20:19):
teeth into. Now, what was actually sued for this article
which you can still find this article, I didn't pull
it up, but it's by Lawrence Linderman Undercover Angel. They
were sued for the article. They were saying that the screenplay.

(20:41):
Here's the complaint was it defamed all wives of members
of the Oakland and Richmond chapters of the Hell's Angels
motorcycle Club by its descriptions of alleged sexual activities of
Hell's Angels brides and mamas. The article described Angel's wedding
at the clear Lake, which I'll we'll get into as

(21:04):
as basically basically the distorted sexual activities and stated they
were stating that the Hells Angels beat up their women
and everything and made him perform unusual sexual acts. I'll
be honest, this movie did not get into that. But
if you watch Stone Cold, it did get into it.

(21:24):
But it, I mean, the article itself did, I guess
put some bad light on what was going on. But
I mean, listen, like I said, if you watch that
movie Stone Cold, it's all about that. So and you know,
it's funny watching the mover. I'm sitting there talking about
Stone Cold and Highlander and Lance Hendrickson was the you know,

(21:47):
main bad guy in Stone Cold as well as played
in Highlander. I just that just hit me right there.
So once again we get this police officer. He does
get fired, he gets recruited by this undercover operation and basically,
like I said, he's supposed to go in infiltrate this

(22:08):
biker game, get him for game, biker gang, try to
get him on arms, drug trafficking, whatever he can. So
he is kind of uneventful, doesn't really get much going.
It's probably once again because he kind of has that
baby face. He he sort of looks like a pedophile

(22:30):
in this movie when we're looking at it, and I
can actually hear, I can grab a let me get
the let me get this loaded up, and I can
sneak over to a picture for you guys real quick
and show you what he looked like those of you here,
and in a minute, I'll get to it. I'll get
to it. I'll get to it. We'll get to it

(22:50):
almost there, folks. Where we go right here, we take
that picture over for you guys. This is what he
was looking like when he was trying to buy drugs
in the beginning. You see, he's got the little mustache going,
he got the flowered shirt on, didn't look like a biker.
They were pitting him as a cop immediately. Immediately, they
were pitting this guy as a cop, and as they

(23:12):
should have. So there you go. Take that off of there,
as they should have, because he did not look anything
but like a cop. So it was probably good that
he was getting picked out there. But all right, so
we got that, and that was one of the reasons
he was in a bar drinking. He meets Virgil again,

(23:36):
Leon Rippy, we were talking about him, So we go
through there and finally that's when he meets Virgil at
a bar and in Virgil's a mechanic. They're not too
shy about doing things in front of Virgil because he's
just a mechanic. He's kind of one of them. He's
not really one of those guys you know that's you know,

(23:57):
in the club. But they he fixes their bike, so
they do need him. And obviously this whole club, the Jackals,
is led by Blood who turns who ends up being
Michael Madsen in this movie. But Virgil gets him a
lot more entrenched and deeper into this whole biker lifestyle

(24:23):
that he was that he needed to get much better
into it, but he really fell, you know, he went
pretty deep undercover, and we'll get into that too. And
he also started a relationship with this with Linda Fiorentino,
who plays Renee in the movie. There was a lot
to this movie that really had a lot to I mean,

(24:45):
he started going pretty goddamn crazy. Now Linda Fiorentino plays Renee.
I said that she is actually a photographer who was
at that time doing an article on motorcycle games. So
come on back to it a little bit. There's some
beautiful bikes in this in this movie. There are some

(25:07):
gorgeous motorcycles in this movie. There's a soft tail ridden
by Charlie Sheen that he builds. It wouldn't go that way.
It's it's an awesome bike. But a lot of the
bikes that are out there, you got the the you
got the wishbone, hardtails, and the soft tails, which is
mainly what you see out there. But you also got

(25:31):
Blood's riding a fat boy. Virgil is riding a soft
tail Springer, so you know, you got the the electric
glide out there for the cops. Every bike out there
are just awesome bikes. Somehow, a Honda gold Wing made
it onto the onto the scene, like I said, when

(25:52):
they're doing the bike run, I don't know how the
Honda made it on there, but it made it on
there somehow. So I've always said I love motorcycles. I've
said that before on this show and many shows before,
but I do. I always have. I had a little
Honda Shadow Hound Shadow eleven hundred and I loved riding it.
I'd go up and down a one A. It was

(26:13):
awesome to do. Said so, I love doing that and
it was always a fun time. So all right, now
let's start getting a little bit into it as we're
gonna go down it, So we're gonna get a little
bit in it. But like I said, this film, the
only way it was mainly embellished was exactly how I

(26:38):
had said. Now, we're gonna get to a scene where,
you know what, when we get to that scene, we'll
talk about that. But I don't even need to do
that right now. Let me get back a little bit.
Now we're gonna go ahead, and man, we can actually
start kind of going through the movie a little bit here,
but we can definitely, we can definitely do that. Like

(27:01):
I said, we're not we don't have a ton to
get into here, but we will definitely get into some
of it. Now, this story of Dan Saxon is sort
of familiar to the life of Anthony Tate. Now, Anthony
Tate was not a police officer. He was a part

(27:24):
of the Hell's Angels motorcycle club out there in Anchorage, Alaska,
and decided that he would bring in a he got
busted for something and said, basically in exchange for that,
he'll bring in atf or a DEA agent and into

(27:46):
the gang, which he did. Now, there was a book
written on now that he wrote actually which if you
give me one second here, I'll get that book pulled
up for you.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Where did that go?

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Here we go? All right, yeah, here we go. It's
this book right here, all about the Hell's Angels. Right here,
here we go. Pull that book over to your side
so you guys can see that a little bit over
there on YouTube. And yeah, it was basically into the Abyss.
This guy wrote a book and it was Yves Levine,

(28:21):
which was the actual agent that he brought in with him.
Anthony Tate did so again another true story about you
know more, This isn't the only one. I've got two
of these, to be honest with you guys, two of
these books that have been written that these are very

(28:43):
very into. Now this was This is a decent book.
I actually found it on audible also, so you can
check it out over there. Now he went in and
actually ended up going in and really this FBI sting
was good. It brought away thirty eight major members across

(29:05):
the United States, including the leader Sonny Barger, and the
two biggest meth cookers that they had. Probably could have
taken out more, but they were trying to trying to
kind of see if they could get any more arrests.

(29:26):
They only ended up with thirty eight of them. Now
that's the one book and story that this has familiar
familiarities too. Also, William Queen. William Queen was another guy
who went in, And this was another guy basically the
same thing. Confidential informant brought in right here, brought down

(29:49):
another motorcycle gang you can see right here. This one's
called under and alone. William Queen did go under, brought
in the FBI with him and really really did the
about the exact same goddamn thing brought down another fucking
motorcycle gang. So kind of see a pattern here where
these guys end up bringing in. But this guy was

(30:12):
a veteran law enforcement more an agent, also loved motorcycles,
didn't care for paperwork, but an informant made contact with
him and they went into the San Fernandino chapter of
the Mongols, which if you ever watched any of those

(30:33):
you know TV shows on these motorcycle gangs, the Mongols
are a pretty bad ass bunch and one of the
most dangerous motorcycle gangs in America. And he didn't realize
how much he was getting into and also didn't realize
there were more people undercover than him, and he didn't
realize that not luckily, nothing really happened and he but

(30:57):
he did end up taking down a very decent amount
of of motorcycle motorcycle guys too in some of those
motorcycle gangs. Once again, some pretty bad dudes. So anyway,
let's just keep from there. Wow, I think I can

(31:18):
actually go ahead and start getting into the movie a
little bit there. All right, I think we should do that.
I'm gonna drop this over a little bit. We're gonna
take that off the screen for a second. So all right,
what I'm gonna do now is I'm gonna go ahead
and get the just kinda start going into the movie.
Like I said, we're gonna be talking about the movie Beyond.
We're still getting into that Movieyond the Wall basically. Like

(31:42):
I said, this movie kicks off and we're sitting there
and you see a motorcycle driving across a desert basically,
and like I said, you see the abuse from his uncle,
and he's basically in a dream right there. So obviously
it starts off. He's already not a very stable person.

(32:06):
To be as deep undercover in what he's doing probably
isn't the best thing for a guy like him to
be honest with you. So we go in and he's
doing that he.

Speaker 7 (32:22):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
And like I said, he goes in, he starts there,
and one of the first things you see is this
scene where these guys are doing all this construction work,
and Bogus Charlie is one of the first things we
see here. Now I'm gonna go through a few pictures
for you guys. This movie starts. The first thing you
see before you see his uncle is kind of a

(32:45):
little script in the beginning. I'm gonna pull this up.
It says, it is too easy to go down into
hell night and day. The gates of dark death stand wide,
to climb back up again, to retrace one's steps, to
open to the open air. There lies the problem, the

(33:07):
difficult task that was by Virgil, the a need a needed.
I'm sure how to say that, but someone unneeded. But anyway,
that's the first thing you see in the movie right there,
is uh that little saying and statement right there. And
then like I said, we get rip torn in this movie.

(33:29):
Give you a quick little view of old rip Torn
and Charlie Sheen sitting there together like Bogus Charlie is
shooting at the construction vehicles because they're tearing up the
land and he's not too happy about it. So start
shooting up the vehicles and we do see Bogus Charlie

(33:49):
up there on the rocks, and there he is right there.
And I'll tell you what this is going to take
us right into our first clip. Like I said, it's
not going to be very long, not a I mean,
it's got some good meat this movie, and we'll definitely
get into it. Putting the headphones on is while I'm stalling,
and here we go. Let's go ahead and get into
the first clip. Let me make sure everything's gonna play,

(34:11):
and we'll we'll go from here.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
How you doing never better?

Speaker 7 (34:22):
You know?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I was thinking, if you gave me that rifle offered
to pay for the damage, I could say you were
out here hunting and at the.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Equipment by mistake.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You want jerky.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
You don't have a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
The state cops will be here in a few minutes,
so if you just give me that rifle, sit down,
whatever you say.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
You don't look so good, kid, Something bothering you, something inside?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Right?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
How you gonna give me the You know, my grandfather
told me a story once about a young Brave who
got scared of his shadow and run away from him.
I told you to sit still. Anyway, young Brave found
out he was only half a person without his shadow.

(35:21):
But to get it back, he had to go down
into a dark hole where only shadows live. Problem was,
anybody went down there never came back.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
He just run out of time. Old man, you give
me the rifle right now. He still keep you out
of jail.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Something else, My grandfather told me the trump patch he
had to do, went surrounded and outnumbered by crazy white men.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
And what's that?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Give the fuck up?

Speaker 5 (35:57):
And he does. He gives the fuck up. So that's
exactly what old Bogus Charlie does there. He gives up.
He just says, screw it. Not gonna do this. But
there again with the beginning script I was talking about before,
and this is only one of two times we actually

(36:19):
see Bogus Charlie. Now Bogus Charlie tells that story. Now,
we never got to finish this story. I just want
you to remember this. He never got to finish this story.
And that is going to be something that we're gonna
have to that we will get into again in a
little while. Here back to me, So just don't want
you to forget that. So we go a little bit

(36:41):
and him and Rip Horn are in this little U diner.
It's a diner. I don't know why I didn't. I
don't know what to call it. It's a diner. They're
in the diner, and Rip Torn ends up giving him
as a gift to cheer him up, this little little
badge from when he was a kid. That's going to

(37:02):
come into play a little later also, which is why
I mentioned it. You know, I method to my madness.
You know how it goes. Excuse me. So he kind
of tells him, listen, you're looking rough after he does
all this, you're looking a little rough. Maybe you should
just go kick back, knock back, and I'll cover for you.
So he does, and he's sitting there and of course

(37:23):
he's having his little flashbacks until he hears and sees
a jeep drive by, and in that jeep is the
lovely Laura Fioranpino. Look at that nice little salty look
she's got right there looking good. And listen, let's go
ahead and play one more clip here of him basically

(37:46):
meeting her and being he can't he can't even speak
is how just enamored by Renee he is in this movie.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
And here we go, why did you stop me? Huh?
Why did you stop me for speeding?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I wasn't speeding, Yes you were.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
No, I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
I'm afraid you were nice of your license? Please?

Speaker 7 (38:21):
Do you have a nice face?

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Excuse me?

Speaker 8 (38:25):
Good bones?

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Where are you going? It's your hurry, Mimus Jackson.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
What difference does that make?

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Hey, I'll ask the questions.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Okay, okay, I'm going to the camera.

Speaker 7 (38:35):
All this photo equipment yours?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Oh of course not.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
That's why I'm carrying it around.

Speaker 9 (38:40):
Look, you don't have to be a complete smart can't
write me a ticket? Or what?

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Can you hear the rumbling? You can hear the rumbling?
This is what he sees coming out of his picture
right here, just motorcycles as far as the eye can see,
coming right out. I'm just coming out. So there he goes,
and he's like what in the hell? He calls it in,

(39:06):
tells the lady, tells her to get out of there.
And this is where we go into the racist boss
scene and once again the boss played by mister Larry
Ferguson himself. I'll pop that picture up one more time
for you, and you know what, I'll play a little
bit of that scene for you guys too. Here. Let's

(39:28):
do it plus ten percent.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
And put a little something extra in there for you.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Kelly in the background. I appreciate that, man, I really do.

Speaker 9 (39:46):
I can go.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Now.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
If there's anything else we can do for you, anything
at all, forget it.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Okay, So we got a dirty cop. Rip Torn is
sitting right in the office when he's doing this, and
Rip Torn's just giving him a look like, oh my god,
you fucking piece of shit. So now, the reason I'm
calling this cop racist is because after this, there's a
scene where basically Charlie Sheen. First of all, this is
the first time him and Michael Madson meet and Michael

(40:26):
Madsen looks at him and says, you're in my fucking way,
and Charlie moves. But this is the first time they
see each other, and it was kind of a weird
little moment there, but also a cool little moment. So
let me get that off the screen here. So there
we go. Another the reason I call this boss racist
because a little bit after this, they go into the

(40:48):
locker room and they're having a little argument about how
he handled the bugis Charlie situation. I gotta be honest
with you. This was not a complete part of my clips.
But let me pop Larry's picture back up. We'll go
ahead and play. Ah, I got a cough. Sorry, I

(41:08):
got a bone to pick with you, Saxon. That's a surprise.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
I heard about what you did this morning.

Speaker 7 (41:15):
Where the hell do you get off risking your ass
over some worthless drunken Indians.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
It wasn't drunk.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
All Indians are nothing but drunks.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Look at me when I'm talking, fucking crazy, stupid son.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Of a bitch, You're fucking fired. Don't do that. Shut
the fuck up, Butcher. I'll fire your ass too. Is
that what you want? That's your call, sir. You God
damn right, it is all right.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
So there you go. Sorry, folks. I had to sneak
a cough in there, and I figured that was the
best way to do it and not get caught or
not be seen at least. So there you go. He's
fired from this job. So you know, he goes home.
He's chilling out a little bit now. Right as he
gets home, we see once again Price Courtney b Vance

(42:09):
comes walking up and it's, you know, just kind of
I don't know, I'm gonna get this picture. I'm sorry
about that, folks. Like I said, we get Price. He's
coming up, and let's pull this back up here because
we're about to talk. We're about to see Price.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
Now.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
I did say that him and Madson had a little
stare down. I forgot that I had that picture. There's
that little stare down right there for the folks on
YouTube between him and Madson. So, like I said, they
they definitely saw each other before. And now we're gonna go.
Like I said, the FBI picks him up. Now, the

(42:45):
FBI knows a lot more about about him than the
police did. And you can tell that right here by
this clip.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
Yeah, I'm Conrad Price, mister Sackson, especially the Investigative Division,
Arizonattorney Dinner's office. I have a proposition for you. Does
this turtle never remove?

Speaker 5 (43:06):
When do you want Price?

Speaker 7 (43:09):
I'm forming an undercovered narcotics operation. I'm looking for field officer.
You're the man I need. How do you figure that
I know everything there is to know about you? Really,
Dan Saxon is in your real name? You're born William
Patrick Steiner in Manhattan, on June twenty four, nineteen hundred
and sixty six.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
So there you go, William Patrick Steiner. So we see
we have William Patrick Steiner, we have Daniel Black, we
have Daniel Saxon or Saxon say Xon, and by the
end of the movie, we're gonna have Sid, which I'll
tell you what that what SID stands for in him
in just a minute here. But this guy had a

(43:51):
lot of names. He was you could almost see that
the real officer, I guess we'll just call him Daniel Black,
was definitely running from something, was definitely trying to hide
some things that happened in his past. And you're gonna
hear in a minute when he was six years old
that uncle that was abusing him, he killed him, shot

(44:12):
and killed him. So let's get on with this scene
right here. I just wanted to kind of prepare you guys.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
Now.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
I know I'm playing a lot of scenes in the beginning.
These are important scenes that again, the progression of how
this goes from there to from here to the end
of the movie is very quick. So I'm playing a
not a lot. I've got less than ten clips left
right now, and I'm gonna play him as I give

(44:38):
some details on this movie, so have no fear. So
let's keep going with this little meeting.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
Here he follows a pipefitter. Your mother was a full
blood of chip Y Indian. You were orphaned when you
were three and raised by your maternal uncle, who was
a policeman. Shall I go on?

Speaker 5 (45:03):
The hell are you?

Speaker 7 (45:04):
I told you I'm with the Attorney General's office.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Let me give you my card.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
I'll put him right here. I'll go on. Because she
was a Native American, your uncle hated your mother. He
locked you in a room, handt kept you and beat you,
repeated me for the next three years. When you were
six years old, you somehow got his gun and shot
him through the heart six times, six times accord upon it.

(45:37):
Psychiatrist testified you have no memory of how it happened.
Severe emotional trauma, he called it. You know what you did,
you just can't remember doing it. Didn't you find out?
I can't take that, But it was no easy task.
As you know of the judge in the case. He'll
do a records for every when you're adopted. I'm curious
about one thing, though, why I become a policeman. That's

(45:59):
ains thing for you to do under the circumstances. Not
your thing, then again maybe not.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
Well, I think you better get the hell out of
here and let me finish. You're gonna leave, and do
I have to throw you out? Way out?

Speaker 9 (46:18):
All right?

Speaker 5 (46:18):
So he does kick him out, and basically, you know,
he's he's telling, oh, you know you you need this job,
you need something to get your mind right. But there
you go at six years old, shot him. I'm sorry,
there's someone knocking. I don't know if y'all can hear that,
but I hear knocking. I think it's my dog knocking
on the door with me. I think he's scratching. Sorry

(46:40):
about that, folks, I just heard it out of nowhere.
I'm like, what the hell is that? Like someone knocking
on my bathroom wall? What I was looking at there? Anyway?
So yeah, he he tells me, you need this job,
you gotta get it. But yeah, six times ended up
shooting that. I go through the heart guy a good shot.

(47:00):
Kid was a great shot obviously, So there we go.
That was that was him meeting Price. Now, as I
had said, he goes through. He does end up taking
this job which he ends up meeting him. Now they
meet in this little kind of desolated part of the desert,
and this is where they're going to start doing all
the drops. So that's fine, they're doing all the drops

(47:22):
there in the desert. And but he does end up
taking the job, and he goes through, and like I
showed you in that little you know, he starts going through,
changes his parents a little bit. Like I showed you
in that one picture. He he's not doing very well.
Doesn't look much like well, he looks like an undercover

(47:45):
cop in this picture. Like I said, he's got the
fucking the just the mustache going, he's got the flower
shirt going. Not awfully convincing in this scene right here.
And he's going through. He's getting a little bit here,
a little bit, is getting like quart arounces and shit
like that from people of weed and stuff like that.
Nothing big, nothing major. And then he goes into a bar,

(48:12):
you know, because he's getting everyone's just fucking with them.
They know that, they know he's a cop. They know
he's a cop. They know he's a cop. They're laughing
at him. They're laughing at him. So he's in a
bar and he meets Leon Rippy, he meets Virgil and
it's probably the best thing he ever did is meeting Virgil,

(48:35):
because Virgil kind of befriends the guy Virgil. He's death,
Like I said, he's definitely important to the bikers. First
of all, he's not one hundred percent sure this guy's
a real cop at all. When he deputies Virgil, it's
it's that little tin badge he got from rip torn

(48:57):
at the guy at the at the diner. So there
you go. But I'm gonna play this little meeting between
him and Virgil, like I said, this is where he
first meets Virgil Leon Rippy and let's knock it out.
Name's Virgil.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
I'm gonna get ship faced to keep drinking that fast, man,
I hope so. And I couldn't help notice how much
money you're tracking around.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
I needed to buy a dope.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I figured you for a dealer, right, listens, wrong, Virgil,
I'm gonna undercover.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Nir conicts officer. All right, now we're talking about the
progression being a little embellished and a little sped up.
I don't think even drunk, he would blurt out that
quick to someone. He doesn't even fucking know that he's
an undercover narcotics arm He would get He literally could
get killed telling this man that where he's at, but

(50:17):
he got lucky. Virgil, like I said, is kind of
used by the motorcycle club, doesn't really fit in, and
he knows they fuck with him, and I think he
kind of feels like an outsider and was looking to
get some help and wanted to do this. So play
a little more of this meeting.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
Here, Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
You're an ark. If he was an arm I'm not
saying that you are, but if he was, you could
get your ass dusted for talking about its.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Bust, all right, So to not hopefully not get a
copyright on this with that music in the background, I'm
gonna kind of skip over that part a little bit.
Now they go through a little bit. Like I said,
Virgil is definitely willing to uh to help him out here.
Now my dog wants to go out, and you start
telling them, you know they need me.

Speaker 7 (51:22):
I can.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
I can get you in there. I can do this,
but you know, you really got to get a little rougher,
a little tougher, And basically, like I said, he deputizes
Virgil with the little tin badge and there they go.
I can actually I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I forgot I
had that still up on the screen. I apologize for that.
So so he deputized him with a little tin badge,

(51:44):
and there you go, Virgil is now the man. Now,
there's a part that I'm gonna get into in a
minute where Virgil talks about as they're going through they
they do the motorcycle building montage. You know, they pull
out from that. They build this bike from a chassis
up and don't worry, I got a picture of them.

(52:07):
It's a gorgeous motorcycle when they're done with it. So,
but at one little scene in the movie, Virgil talks
about some of the codes that he's gonna have to
learn in order to basically stick with this biker gang
and not get fucking killed. So let's go ahead and

(52:31):
grab one more little clip here of Virgil talking to him,
and I'm gonna let my dog out of the room.
So give me one secondre I'm gonna play this clip,
and we're gonna get this going right now. Sorry, Fox,
here we got a bikers man, and there aren't jackals.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Jackals is the fucking cream.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
You don't got to be a rocket scientist to get
close to them. They only got a few rules. The
most important is stomping.

Speaker 8 (52:57):
Stomping means somebody hits a jack he's gonna have thirty
of them on his neck. A dude ask a jackal
to get out of his house, He's gonna come back
with an army and stop the bastard to death.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
All right, So there you go. That's pretty much one
of the codes of the game, the biker Club. I'm
gonna stick with the biker Club. I know they don't
really care about being called a gang that much. So
there you go. Now, as he's going through and talking
to Daniel here, as Virgil's talking to him, he they

(53:35):
kind of go in and he starts getting a little
better looking. Finally he's getting some stuff worked out with
his beard. He's got the hair growing long finally, and
just finally get in the look going and they get
this bike.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
Oh this bike.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Here's the bike. Look at this gorgeous bike. Oh this
beautiful soft tail they make. Now, there was a point
in there where they were spraying red. Now there's not
one touch of red on this bike. Now you can
tell me it was a primer. It's fine, I'll believe it.
But I don't give a shit. This bike is absolutely

(54:19):
ah my god, I would kill for this fucking bike
is absolutely beautiful, this motorcycle. So there you go. That's
this is the motorcycle they get, and you know, he's
letting them, you know, get used to riding a motorcycle
and do this and do that. But after that they
sorry about that eye was itching.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
After that.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Finally, Virgil needs to get him ready and they and
in order to do that, first what he does is
he gets him a jacket. And the jacket he gets
him is the Pythons. Is the motorcycle club. Now it's
a made up club, but no one's gonna fight, can know. Now.
They do point out at one point that he puts

(55:05):
the one percent on his patch on his vest. Now
that is the one percenters. It actually says that he
is part of the out the brotherhood. Now he identifies
the Jackals as top dogs, which is definitely why he's

(55:27):
going after him because these guys are also part of that. Now,
the brotherhood is kind of a thing where they get
you get like stems out of them, Like these guys
would be a like like a chapter of them. So
here we go. Let's let's go ahead and start there,
and we're gonna do this little clip on the one

(55:47):
percenters and uh, that'll kind of go into everything from there.

Speaker 8 (55:52):
This means that you are a member of the totally
zoned out, fucked up, badass outlaw motorcycle brotherhood in this
little space right here. Now, that's where your name goes.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
And what do you want to call yourself? Bikers all
got nicknames?

Speaker 2 (56:10):
How about if I call myself SID SID?

Speaker 5 (56:14):
Now he holds up SID.

Speaker 9 (56:16):
Now.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
The reason he wants to call himself SID is because
it stands for the Special Investigative Division. So he decides
to call himself SID. Whatever. So anyway, there's another this
is what that? That was his little explanation on that.
Now he also takes a jacket out and pisses on it.

(56:38):
Don't worry about it. It's just something they do. Now,
another little scene in here is, uh, he's going to
go through now, Actually, let me get a few more
things here.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Now.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
Virtual definitely has Like I said, he's got a lot
of knowledge on what goes on. They really he's a
good mechanic for him, so they just kind of take
him everywhere. They don't care about doing business in front.
They don't care about doing drugs in front of them,
and you know that's just kind of the kind of
what they do. But you know, he's doing things he's

(57:12):
not supposed to have. You know, Daniel told him, no
carrying guns, no carrying this, no committing crimes.

Speaker 9 (57:19):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
The first fucking thing he does is the first thing
Virgil does is he steals a car and he basically
kind of takes on He tries to get him ready
for going to the first meeting that they have. Now again,
he just took on this persona as sid I just

(57:40):
told you what that was from from the Pythons of Cleveland. Now,
you know by the end he's but by the end
of this movie, he's actually ready to because Blood saves
his life. At one point, he's actually ready to like
warn Blood and get him out of there, which probably
wouldn't have been a fucking good idea idea, But all right,

(58:03):
let's go a little more. Uh, this is kind of
their first meeting. But first thing Virgil does is he
steals the car and he basically takes Dake Charlie Sheen
on a fucking run and finds out he's crazy enough
to do what he's doing, and they go as Virgil says, well,

(58:25):
get your shit together, We're going to a fucking wedding.
And they go to a fucking wedding, and this is
where he sid starts getting in pretty good with with
some of the biker gangs. And this is when we
first see Oatmeal and you know what, let's go ahead

(58:45):
and play this clip they're doing. He gets guns. He
tells me ready to buy and wants to buy guns.
So they go through a little bit of shooting. He
steals a piece of dynamite and this is the scene
we're gonna play here. We go right now.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Wrong, bullshit, man, you fucking hit a can. It fucking
moves a fucking can didn't move?

Speaker 5 (59:07):
What are you calling me a liar?

Speaker 6 (59:08):
I'm calling you worse a liar. I'm saying the Pythons
or Sissys club and you are a chicken ship dog.
Motherfucker fuck you doing?

Speaker 7 (59:22):
Man?

Speaker 5 (59:23):
I try again, o'meil. I want to make sure the.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Can moves this time.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
Jeez w.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
So there you go. I got the picture up here
for everybody to check out. He's got the water splashing
down on him. We see this is the other the
last incarnation of Sheen in this movie, we saw baby
face sheene. We now see we saw peteo mustache sheen.
And now we're looking at at badass biker. Look at
those fucking le Dude, if you've got leather on your sunglasses,

(01:00:06):
you're kind of a badass. I just say, you're kind
of a badass. And he's got leather on his fucking sunglasses, folks,
whatever that tells you right there, So there you go. Now,
he we was gonna pay a little more of this
scene because this is where he also meets Blood in
the first thing, and to kind of play that a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I'm gonna kill you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Fuck, You're gonna kill now Jesus.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Oh, I don't mean nothing, man, Okay, who set off
the fucking dynamite?

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
I did?

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
But it was just Hill. Shut your mouth? Who the
fuck are you? What his name?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Sid?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
What the fuck did I just say to you?

Speaker 7 (01:00:47):
Shut up?

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
Sid?

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
You're right? Fuck my colors just screwing around.

Speaker 7 (01:00:56):
You're in the back off Blood. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 10 (01:01:04):
I think I'm gonna shoot him, Jesus, Jesus, they kind
of way, man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Come on, give me a fight, all right. So, so
at this point, right here. They take into Fiorentino's cart renee.
They take her away, all right, get her out of here,
and uh, Matchen pulls the gun. You shoot him, and
I'll blow your motherfucking brains out. Nobody lives forever, that's
a fact.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
I'll shoot the fucker.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Oh God, for Jesus, I was just I was just
pull around and mean, I gets your collars, man, I
like your colors.

Speaker 8 (01:01:46):
I love your fucking color.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Your colors are wonderful.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
H to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
So he starts pissing himself and they all start laughing.
Ha ha, big guy peas himself. So they all laughed and.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
That was that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
So there you go. So they actually, you know, they
kind of start to get along, and Michael Madison actually
tells him, listen, it's kind of different here because usually
I'd blow your fucking brains out for what you just
did to Oatmeal. And he's like, well whatever, and even
Madison says at one point, haven't we met before? And

(01:02:30):
Sheen gives this little look at him and he tries
to act tough and he goes, trust me, if you
met me, you'd fucking remember. So anyway, we keep going
a little bit here, folks, It's just always funny to
hear Charlie Sheen try to act tough even looking tough.

(01:02:52):
He just can't act tough all the time. So we
have this little wedding up there. It's interesting. It's an
interesting wedding. I'll just put it that way. But they
go through and now he talks to Blood and like
I said, Blood has a little talk with him, and
he also goes and sits with Linda Fiorentino. And now

(01:03:14):
remember he had pulled her over and she recognized him.
She said, trust me, you don't look anything like you
used to. And he's like, can you shut the fuck up?
I can get killed doing this. Well, like I said,
she also becomes his love interest. They end up. So
the next day comes and basically Sid's riding with him,

(01:03:37):
and they bet Sid fifty bucks he won't go into
this fucking redneck bar, ride his bike right into it.
He does, drives right in there, not a problem at all.
And I bring this up because there's a part in
the bar where Sid and Michael Madson are fighting. Now
obviously I just said, I you know, most people know

(01:03:58):
I've got arrest podcast also, and this just reminds me
of when Carl Malone and DDP. We're back to back.
These guys are back to back, throwing punches in their
red neck bar, you know. So they're getting along. They're
definitely getting along pretty good. They're getting along pretty good

(01:04:20):
in this little little bar and everywhere else. So there
you go. Another little scene we go to after that,
we're gonna go down and he ends up at another
a strip bar called the Whole Thing. This is the
strip bar they go to in this movie. And he's

(01:04:40):
talking to Blood, but he also sees Renee over there.
She's playing pool. And I bring this up because he
makes a bet with these two guys that for fifty
bucks that she can beat both of them playing pool. Well,
they get pissed when she does, and of he gets

(01:05:00):
into a fight with him takes them both. I bring
that up because that's an important part later where Blood
saves his life. They end up going home that night.
Those two uh by that, by those two, I mean
uh Sid and Renee, And there you go. Now she

(01:05:21):
tells them at this part. She tells them I have
a daughter, and he's like, well, I want to meet her,
and she's like, I don't know how good that would work.
But anyway, brings him home to Sid. Anyway, and here
you go. This is where Sid meets her daughter, Mary Bet,
not Mary Beth, Mary Bett.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
What are you doing? I'm curaging something it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:48):
No, it does nothing, miss It doesn't know the secret
the leipe that is no longer a secret. How we
have a Sea nine as claim and we have seen
him mild Peanut, the buthe plus on clues Devon.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
And thestenal favorite the man.

Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
Come here, pick a hump, oh yell kails, but I
but I feel them Clushed and we pills he Clushed
oliels into the Miltiadha and.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
We continue to crush them. So there you go. Very
good with the daughter. She likes the little drink he creates.
And but you can also tell me right before the
daughter came, the guy is still having his little his
flashbacks and everything. So still pretty pretty fucked up. So anyway,

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we keep going a little bit through this movie and
Price is Price is one of those guys that just
I mean, he's buying drugs, he's buying guns, he's getting
everything he needs, and they also show him continuing his relationship. Again,
this is over an eighteen month period and we're supposed
to just digest all this in an hour and forty

(01:07:17):
seven minute movie. So, like I said, they do a
couple of montages. He's buying drugs, he's riding around the
Mary Bet on the motorcycle. He's trying to be him
and he's also trying to be Sid. So he's trying
to be Daniel and he's trying to be Sid, which

(01:07:39):
never is very easy to do. So he's going through
and Price, though Price seems to be moving up in
the ranks as things are going good with Daniel. So
this is the other point right here, there's a point
in this movie where where Michael Madson actually asks Sid

(01:08:00):
to be in the Jackals. Now, as this is definitely
an embellished part, probably was a little bit exaggerated, but
when he literally what we would have to what he
would have to do here is called a patch over.
So if he did join the Jackals, he would have

(01:08:23):
to literally patch over not just him, but the whole gang,
would his whole Python's gang would have to patch over
before he was offered a position in the Jackals. Now,
the reason he can't take a position in the Jackals
is because you have to commit a felony. Also in

(01:08:44):
front of the Jackals. So that's another reason. Now I'm
about to come up on a scene where we do
the run, the the motorcycle run, where that's all these
motorcycle gangs together or clubs, excuse me, together, And there's
a little part where he drives his motorcycle all the
way up and rides beside blood. Ain't no fucking way

(01:09:06):
that would happen, No way that would happen. It just
wouldn't happen. It's not even a member. He would probably
get his ass kicked. They would probably pull over and
beat the living fuck out of him at at that point,
to be honest with you, So all right, so there
we go with that. So all right, now again you

(01:09:31):
can see, like I said, he's starting to get deep
and deep and deep cover undercover and kind of losing
track of who he is and who who he needs
to be. But uh, all right, here we go. Let's
go ahead and go a little bit here, and we'll
go ahead and roll into the next Like I said,

(01:09:51):
that's the whole thing where he tries to join the Jackals.
Now smartly, Sheen says that he needs to think about
it because he's got people that are expecting things of him.
But this is also where he does drugs, because they
get pissed at Virgil for taking every time he needs them.
So he ends up doing some crank or meth whatever
they're cooking out there, but he loses the price. Now

(01:10:14):
price is rising up in the ranks, and he's all
proud of himself. Basically, this guy is a fucking glory
hound who's getting his fucking glory off of fucking under
the undercover agent's back. And Daniel's getting nothing for this
except a fucking headache and being driven further further into insanity.
So now in this little meeting they have, he tells

(01:10:37):
him he's losing his fucking mind and wants out. And
all this guy says is, look, Washington called me, by
the way, they want to put an undercover in there.
He says, oh, hell no, you're not putting an undercover
in here. So as they're going with that, him and
his relationship with renees even more strained, and they go

(01:10:59):
on this poker run. Like I said, we have the
little scene where he's driving up front with blood. It's
just basically a montage of motorcycles where somewhere in these
scenes we're not sure, where is the real Daniel Sackson,
Daniel Black, whatever you want to call him. Now they
did put the undercover in here, and he was spotted
almost fucking immediately, almost immediately, this guy was spotted. Here

(01:11:23):
we go. What you get a scooter at your fucking head,
I'll kill you.

Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
You know what you are, that's what you are my side.

Speaker 10 (01:11:37):
What the fuck is going on over here?

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
This worthless piece of ships the fucking cop.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
I know the scooter belonged to a brother of mine
FBI confiscated over two months ago. Okay, so right here,
this poor cop, you're looking right here. He looks scared
to death. So Sid just jumps him, just jumps him,

(01:12:03):
beats the living hell out of this cop. Now it
it may look like a brutal scene, but if you
understand what these guys would have done to him, he
probably saved their life. Now he gets up and not
only does he get into the face of like beats
this cops ass. He gets into the face of Price,
He gets into the face of He spits in Price's face,

(01:12:26):
just and literally and they leave. He they leave, He
calls him pieces of shit, spits in his face. He's
trying to keep his fucking cover. He's trying his best
to keep his goddamn cover. He probably saved this undercover
cops life by beating his ass the way he did.
He probably did, and this and this undercover fucking knows it.

(01:12:48):
And I'll and we'll show you that a little bit later.
But yeah, that that's how they got it right there. Now,
after he beats this cops assess the first time, Virgil
kind of looks at him like this guy really a
fucking cop, kind of gives him that look. So right
after this, we get another part where they're going to

(01:13:11):
buy some drugs, him and Virgil, and they end up
with these two guys out of this rival motorcycle, the
Duster's Club, and they end up going with these two
guys right here, and they're in there. They give him
a ride and the guy wants to fucking basically shoot

(01:13:31):
up in the car and they don't freak out, but
the guys start getting nervous when they start talking about
Cleveland because that's where the pythons were out of and
she don't know shit about Cleveland. Well, he takes these
guys and he me get this picture off. Sorry, sorry
for that, folks. He takes these guys, gets him out

(01:13:55):
of the car, beats the living hell out of them,
throws one against them, I mean literally puts his head,
kicks the door off the fucking car, throw puts his
head against the fucking back to trunk, beats the hell
out of these two guys. And then they got a
cop behind him. They're trying to stick this fucking needle
in Sheen's neck and they're driving all over the place.

(01:14:19):
Sheen gets out, does this all right in front of
a police officer, and finally he gets up and he
just points the gun at the police officer and boom
right there, and he goes, I have an idea. Let's
shoot each other. And Virgil, this fucking tough biker is

(01:14:41):
fucking scared. Once this cop leaves. Now, you know, you
think Virgil ain't no big deal, but nope, Let's get
the hell out of here.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
Get in the car, Virgil, And I don't think so, man,
This is where Virgil gets off.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
What are you talking about, you man, That's what the
fuck I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
I mean, look at this shit.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
You're fucking nuts. If you ever was a cop, you
ain't a copy anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:15:19):
I mean, no fucking cop in the world a shit.

Speaker 8 (01:15:21):
Like that here, man, you can get yourself a new deputy.
I just can't keep up with you no more.

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
So there you go. Virgil decides he can't do this
shit no more, and that's it. He leaves Virgil. He
Virgil throws the little tin badge at him and he leaves.
But he's got a cop on his ass. Sheen does
and this cop ain't taking no shit, because you gotta
remember what he just did.

Speaker 9 (01:15:47):
He just.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Did that, pulled a gun on a cop. This cop
goes up brings him right to jail. Now I did
say that there was another scene where we see Bogus Charlie.
Now we don't also heard in this scene that his
mother was Chippewa Indian, which means he's got some Indian
in him, which is why he kind of has a
kinship with these Indians. But he sees Bogus Charlie and

(01:16:14):
he remember, remember what I said, Bogus Charlie never finished
that story about the Shadow, and we probably should finish
that story up a little bit. What do you think, guys.
So he goes to jail and asks for a phone call,
but the first guy he ends up seeing is Bogus
Charlie in that jail. So here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:16:34):
You gotta give me a fucking phone call.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Sit out, kid, There's nothing you can do, Charlie, Bogus Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I know you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
You told me a story about an Indian who ran
away from his shadow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Remember, oh yeah, you don't look like the same.

Speaker 7 (01:16:59):
Why did you tell me that?

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
Why did you tell me that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
I don't know, Jesus Christ, you're joking me.

Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
The Indian and the story, what happens to him?

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
He goes down into the hole and finds his shadow.
A moon woman sews it back on for him. But
before he can climb back out, he has to meet
Look it, it's just the stories.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
They have to meet death. I gotta get the fuck
out of here, all right. So we heard that he
has to go meet death. Now could mean a lot
of things. It doesn't really tell him. Death could be blood, blood,

(01:17:57):
I mean blood by the leader of the Jackals. It
could be anyone. But after this he ends He does
end up getting out, and he ends up going home.
He ends up seeing Renee. Excuse me now, remember Renee
is a photographer. Well, she's down in her little uh
basement thing down there. What do you call those places

(01:18:21):
developing laboratories?

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
I don't forgive my brain. So she's down there developing
film in her developing dark room, dark room, dark room, Yes,
that's the name of it, a dark room, yes, click
light on. She's down in there in her dark room.

(01:18:45):
And you know she's doing that right there, developing on
this thing. And she notices in one of them his
shadow didn't come out in one of the pictures, and
he gets a little nervous and gets out of there.
Then they show him talking to Price, and I mean,
he is losing his fucking mind. You can see it.
He's getting deeper in and deeper in, tells Price, you know,

(01:19:09):
fuck everyone, and fuck you. I don't care what exactly
you're fucking being called up for. It doesn't matter to me.
I'm the one breaking my ass and going fucking crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
And he is well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
After that, he goes to Blood's Blood, scares him a
little bit, pulls a gun on him but it's not loaded,
just still scares him a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:19:27):
And.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
They do sort of pull him out. They're ready to
start pulling the trigger and make some fucking arrest now.
Before this, though, again we get I told you to
remember those two guys he got into a fight with
at the bar. Him and Blood are leaving the bar
and these guys attack him. Blood basically says, no problem, man,
I'll go get the car. You guys do what you

(01:19:51):
gotta do. Well, they were gonna kill him. Blood ends
up coming up behind him beating his ass, saves his life.
This is where he actually was like, shit, I might
need to fucking warn this guy. I mean, he saved
my life, you know. But he doesn't. He doesn't. But
the cops end up ready to make arrests. And right

(01:20:16):
before they make arrests, though, they go in to a store. Okay,
well wait a minute, make sure I'm doing this in
the rite oak. Yes, they go into a store, and
remember what I said. To join the Jackals, you have
to literally you have to commit a felony in front

(01:20:36):
of him. Well, they go into a store and they
basically force Sid to do that exactly, that commit a felony. Well,
Sid doesn't really want to do it, and he actually
he doesn't blow his cover here, but he does kind of.
He's against what they're going to do. They end up

(01:20:58):
robbing the store and killing the girl he's not fucking
with that shit. And basically Michael Madsen puts a gun
to his head, like, dude, you just fucking stepped on
your fucking meet. I would have given you everything, my club,
my fucking bike, everything, And now he has no where
he stands. So Sheen's freaking out a little bit, kind

(01:21:21):
of asked some flashbacks here and from here. This is
where they're ready to start making arrests. He's like, look,
I saw murder somebody. You got to take him down.
I'm not going back. They have a meeting and they
finally introduced Daniel Sackson to everyone. Now the first guy,

(01:21:44):
first guy he sees when he's in this little meeting
and they introduce him. I'll, you know, let me play
the meeting and I'll show you the first guy he sees.
I'll pause it at that point.

Speaker 7 (01:21:55):
Eight agency's a representative to day, along with the FBI,
Drug Enforcement Agency, Alcohol, the Back on Firearms, and the
US Treasure Gentlemen. At precisely eleven PM to night and
continuing through dawn, an unprecedented number of arrests will be

(01:22:15):
made in California, Arizona, and Nevada. These arrests will be
staggered by location and time to minimize the possibility of
alerting any of the suspects. The significance of this many
arrests over such a vast area is awesome. It represents
a substantial blow to organized crime in Arizona, and it
is the result of one man's dedicated effort, an effort expended,

(01:22:39):
I might add, at considerable personal cost. Now you've all
heard by now that we've had an undercover officer deep
within the outlaw motorcycle community. But I think it'll be
surprised when, in fact, I know you will be. His
name is Daniel Saxon.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
He comes walking out. The first three guys he gets
a view of is the guy's ass he kicked, the
guy he pulled a gun on, and the cop that
took him to jail. That's the exact people right there
that he sees. That's the first three people he looks at.
So what do you think he's thinking, Oh, fuck, I
get my ass kicked right here. These guys may walk out,

(01:23:23):
well not exactly. They see him first guy and they
start clapping for him. First three guys to clap are

(01:23:46):
those three guys that that know what he was doing.
He was deep under. This guy knows he saved his life.
These guys were fucking gonna kill him. He was dead.
He was dead. They were gonna fucking kill him right there.
They didn't care. If cops were there, someone would have
went to jail for it. They would have stomped his ass.
As Virgil was talking about in the beginning here the

(01:24:10):
other I mean, the guy was just trying to keep
his cover, that's all he was doing. And cops understand that.
And you know, I'm sure he thought he was fucking
getting sure, sure thought no one understood, but they do.
They do so pretty good right there. I'm sure that
was a good feeling, knowing that these guys understood what
he was doing. And there you go. So basically, by

(01:24:34):
the end of this, the only thing he wants is
for him to be the one to arrest Blood, and
he does. They finally they say, look, you got five minutes,
you go in. He goes in. He starts talking to Blood,
he gives him the name. He's like, listen, I'm really
not down with what the fuck you did, you know?

(01:24:55):
Blah blah blah. He says, this girl's name was this
She wanted to live and he tells Blood you've seen
me before, and he pulls out his old ID and
on that is the picture of him when Blood first
saw him, that first picture I showed you guys, which
I guess I can kind of go, you know what,

(01:25:16):
I can go back to that a little bit, give
me a second, I'll flip over to it and pull
that back up one more time.

Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
That was the next picture. That was the picture on
his id. Was that young the picture of the young
the young Charlie Sheen, which you know what, I don't
even have that picture of the young Charlie Sheen. So anyway,
but he he's like, and guess what, I'm still in
your fucking way. Like I said, that was what he

(01:25:45):
said to him, You're in my fucking way. So there
you go, right there, folks. He goes in, Blood pulls
a gun, he shoots him. And if you want to
know what really what ended up happening to this whole
motorcycle gang or club, well here you go. Now, this
movie was also called Fixing the Shadow. Actually overseas it

(01:26:10):
was called Fixing the Shadow, and if you go to
download subtitles, it's known as Fixing the Shadow. So because
it took me a while to figure that one out.
You're gonna see that at the top right here in
just a minute. Those if you on YouTube, and here
you go. Let's find out what happened, everybody, sure you've.

Speaker 8 (01:26:29):
Just seems true. Some of the names and locations have
been changed, but it's true. Over two hundred people got
vusted out there in the desert. Blood's doing three consecutive
life terms. And the real Dan Saxon lives with Renee
somewhere in northern California and appeared as an extra in
this movie. Me, there still ain't nothing about a scooter
that I can't fix. And I guess you could say

(01:26:50):
that I'm pretty much all right.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
So there you go. Listen, great movie, great true story.
I really look nineteen ninety three again, this was right.
This was only a couple of years after Stone Cold
had come out, which was a little ridiculous of a movie,
like I said, doesn't really hold up. But this movie
here is a really good movie. Like I said, it's

(01:27:18):
a true story. It's something you can sit there, you
can watch, you can you know, it goes very quick,
you know, for an hour and forty seven movie to
get into everything they got into that's pretty goddamn good.
But and they do. They go through everything pretty fast,
and I just think it's a really good movie. I'm
trying to give you less clips, less detailed so you

(01:27:43):
watch this. I want y'all to watch this movie. It's
a great movie back like I said, from nineteen ninety three.
But you know, not a lot of real deep trivia
into the movie. Like I said, it was released in
the UK, Fixing the Shadow the was the name of it.

(01:28:08):
There's not really much more to get into with this.
I'm trying to think of anything I missed, but there's
really not. There's really not. But it's definitely, like I said,
it's a cool movie to go through. It's like I said,
it's kind of the way he rises up in the

(01:28:30):
ranks of this motorcycle gang. If they were that, you know,
that bad of a motorcyle, they're not gonna trust someone
as quick as this movie is. But again, eighteen months
I could see, that's a year and a half. That's
one guy and another guy vouching for him, who I'm
sure they never thought Virgil was going to be this
kind of a snitch. So I don't know. I think

(01:28:53):
this is a great movie though, I definitely think you
guys should probably check it out if you haven't. For
a while there it was on Netflix, which means it'll
probably be back on Netflix sooner rather than later. But
great movie, Larry Ferguson, and it's about all I really
can I can say, just definitely a movie you guys

(01:29:16):
should be checking out. And that's it. I think I
got into everything I need to with this movie. I
appreciate everybody who's gonna watch this. I appreciate everybody who's
who's gonna listen to this. I'll get this bad Boy
put up. But thanks a lot everybody. I hope if
you do watch this movie, you enjoy it. And if
you do enjoy it, let me know. You guys can

(01:29:37):
get me right here on YouTube. You can go to
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can always join me on Wednesday night if you happen
to be wrestling fans, Me and Smark are over there
talking to the wrestling on the the wrestling outlet. Still
haven't got Mixler working, but this is working for me
right now. So all right, folks, I'm going to go

(01:29:58):
ahead take off, but thank you all for joining me
and look, we wrap this up in about an hour
and a half, not bad at all, and I think
that was perfect. So there you go, everyone, Syya