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August 8, 2022 102 mins
This week was a 35 year celebration for The Lost Boys released July 31, 1987. There was a different format for this one. Also some announcements about Hollywood Hangout. David talks the casting of The Lost Boys, facts about the movie, played some interviews, and some clips.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Business.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I got my wild cherry dying PEPSI and uh, I
got my black jack come here, and I got that feeling, Yeah,
that familiar feeling.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Something rank is going down out there.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm funny.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
How I mean funny like I'm a clown.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I amuse you.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
I make you laugh.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
I'm here to fucking amuse you.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
How the fuck am I funny?

Speaker 7 (00:32):
What the fuck is so funny about me?

Speaker 6 (00:34):
Tell me?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Tell me what's fun.

Speaker 8 (00:42):
Oh mes, sir, God damn it.

Speaker 9 (00:48):
Brothers don't shake hands, Brothers gott a FuG.

Speaker 10 (00:54):
Come other, the cols get together, have a few lifts.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
As far back as I can remember, I always wanted
to be a gangster.

Speaker 10 (01:11):
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?

Speaker 6 (01:17):
Can anybody move out? Blow your fucking head off?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
And the Medica doc said, oh my god, I'm a huckleb.

Speaker 11 (01:30):
God advice to you just start drinking heavily.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Put that coffee down.

Speaker 12 (01:37):
Well, any of this coos, you old billy brule?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Have you vince?

Speaker 13 (01:44):
The royal penis is clean?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Your highness?

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Hey, where are the white women at.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
You?

Speaker 12 (01:54):
Be cay motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's over, Johnny, it's over.

Speaker 14 (02:38):
The last fire will rise behind those eyes.

Speaker 15 (02:45):
Black house will rock blind boys do blad.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Elm more so.

Speaker 10 (02:58):
That boy so clear.

Speaker 13 (03:05):
Scream insist.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Right, all right? What is going on everybody? That's right?
It is Sunday. I know I usually do these on Saturdays.
But I even said last night I had a lot
going on here at the house. I had things going on.
I had another flood. I don't know if I don't
remember if I told you all about the last flood
we had. But my daughter is turning on the washing

(03:47):
machine and the switch is not going off to shut
it off. It has been a nightmare. But that was
what google was going on last night at my house.
And it was just it was no thank god, no
water got in here under the computers or anything. But

(04:08):
we had a pretty big flood. I have a little
two and a half gallon uh shot back and I
think I dumped it about nine times. It was it
was a lot of water. We were doing stuff so
we didn't notice. And then I'm sitting there and I
turn around, I put my feet down. I'm like, why

(04:30):
is there a pool under my feet? Oh my god, awful.
But that was what was going on here last night.
Now I am going to move this show to Sundays.
With the kids going back to school, it's a better move.
Saturday nights, they're up, they're happy, they're staying up late.
It's a little crazy for me to try to keep

(04:52):
them calm. I'll be honest, it's crazy for me to
try to keep them calm when there's no reason to.
They should be able to play around on a Saturday
night and me, me or my wife not be yelling
at them to, you know, quiet down, quiet down. So Sundays,
with school coming back, they will go to bed right
around pretty much at the time this show is going on.

(05:13):
So if I move it to Sundays, it's a better
It's better for me, it's better for the kids, it's
better for everybody. Then the kids can have Saturday night
to just do what they want. So it's got nothing
to do with me wanting to drink more or anything
like that. This really has to do with just us
being a little easier on the kids, because I mean,

(05:36):
you know, it's crazy that we got to keep telling
them quiet down, quiet down, quiet down. They're just out
there having fun, screaming, yelling and dancing around. So let's
go ahead and let the kids be kids. And I'm
gonna go ahead and move this show over to Sundays. Now,
I know that's going to coincide a little bit with

(06:00):
with the high Marks. I may not be doing this
live much. I'm thinking about not doing it live anymore.
I'm thinking about just releasing this show on Sundays. That way,
I can just kind of take a little time throughout
the week and get it done. So I might do
that from now on. That way, I'm not butting up

(06:20):
against the high Marks or anything. So, you know, I
don't like making people choose, so that might be something
that might be done. I'm actually I'm pretty sure that's
what I'm gonna start doing, is just recording these bad Boys.
But anyway, there's all that. I am obviously talking about

(06:41):
The Lost Boys Tonight from nineteen eighty seven. It was
actually released thirty five years ago July thirty thirty July
thirty first, thirty first, July thirty first, nineteen eighty seven.
This movie was released, and it was a very influential movie.
This was before Twilight and before the Cool These were

(07:04):
the fucking cool vampires. These really were. These were the
cool vampires. And I'm gonna do this one a little different.
I'm actually gonna try to do this for every movie. Now,
newer movies, I might still do a little bit of
follow through. But it's been thirty five years. You've all
seen The Lost Boys. If you haven't seen The Lost Boys,

(07:25):
you know to go see it. So instead of going
through all the scenes of the movie, I'm gonna lay
out a bunch of facts about the movie. I'm gonna
tell you all about the cultural response that it had,
all about the you know, the budget. I'm gonna get
into some of the other stuff in the movie, go

(07:45):
through some facts, play a couple of interviews, and that's
how I'm gonna do this movie. I got some clips
to play. I'm not lying, I do. I've got a
few clips that I'm gonna play. I will definitely play
those clips as we go through the movie. But I
don't really feel after thirty five years this is a
movie I really need to go through scene by scene.

(08:10):
But I've got a lot of facts about the movie
that I dug for and looked for and went through
a bunch of stuff to find and got. I've only
got about ten clips we're gonna play. We're gonna play
some of them right as we go through the as
we go through the facts about the movie. But I
just don't feel that this is a movie after thirty

(08:31):
five years that we need to go through step by step,
scene by scene, So why bother, Let's just not even
do it. So we're not going to. Like I said,
I'm probably gonna try to do this with every movie.
It is a lot more work and a lot more
research to do, but I think it'll make the movies better.

(08:53):
Not going I think I'm kind of getting into a
rut where I'm playing.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I know I am. I'm playing two much of the movie,
and I know I am. But I love the movies
that I that I watched, that we talk about, and
I just want to watch them with every like I
want to watch them with you guys. You know. So
I get stuck doing that, wanting to play every line.
If I switch it up a little bit and do
it this way, we'll see how this goes. I still

(09:20):
have a bunch of clips that we're gonna play with it.
We're gonna talk about the soundtrack. Of course. I played
Cry Little Sister at the beginning of the of the
intro there, and that is a song that took on
a life of its own was really the theme song
for the movie, but wasn't really the song that had

(09:42):
people talking. We will definitely definitely get into that. But
so yeah, this is probably not gonna be going live
much more. But anyway, let's go ahead here, and I mean,
like I said, we're gonna start talking. I'm pretty much
gonna start getting right the movie. Like I said, nineteen

(10:02):
eighty seven lost boys, let's just get right into the actors. Okay,
let's start with the casting of this movie. So I'm
gonna go ahead and pull up a few notes about
the casting. Now, the casting for this movie. Joel Schumacher
was a director for this movie, and he said he

(10:22):
had one of the greatest casts in the world. Now,
you got to remember when I'm naming some of these people,
some of these people in this movie, they weren't very
famous at the time. It was only nineteen eighty seven.
But he said that he had one of the greatest
casts in the world. They are what make the film

(10:44):
and they were relatively unknown when it came out. With
this Jason Patrick was the first guy that they chose. Now,
they went after Jason Patrick a lot, a lot. Jason
Patrick actually refused time and time again to do this

(11:05):
movie time and time again. Now you've seen him in
Speed two, you've seen him in Sleepers, you've seen him
in The Losers. I hadn't done it. I mean it
hasn't done a shitload, but is still out there doing movies.
So we have seen him in other things. Definitely remember
Speed two. I definitely remember him from that movie. And

(11:26):
I gotta tell you, I didn't realize that was him
until I started looking up these actors, but that was him.
That was him in that movie. But this was only
his third. Actually, he had done a TV movie something
called Solar Babies after that in eighty six, and then
The Lost Boys, and again relatively unknown turned them down

(11:48):
time and time again. I guess Joel Schumacher finally broke
him down somehow, Someway. There's really not a lot about
that in the fild, in this little in these facts,
but he was definitely the guy they wanted, the guy

(12:08):
they were gonna go with, no matter what, they were
gonna go with this guy. It was just for some
reason he kept turning down the damn movie. He just
kept doing it and doing it and doing it. So they,
like I said, they finally got this guy and you know,
but they were definitely adamant about getting Jason Patrick. So

(12:33):
they did get him for the movie obviously, because that's
that's who started it. All right, I'm actually typing something
real quick. Sorry about that, but all right, here we go. So, yeah,
they were definitely all over him to get him. He
was approached very early. Like I said, he just didn't
want to. Basically, what it says is he didn't want

(12:53):
to do a vampire film, turned it down many times.
He was one over because they were gonna give the
cast a lot of creative input in making the film. Now,
according to kief for Sutherland, Jason Patrick was extremely instrumental
in kind of adapting the whole script with Joel Schumacher

(13:15):
and kind of shaping the film. Schumacher had envisioned the
character of Star, which we'll get into in just a minute.
We'll actually get into her next, being kind of a blonde,
almost like Meg Ryan. But Jason Patrick went with Jamie Gertz. Now,
Jamie Gertz, I've talked about her a couple of times

(13:38):
in a movie that I've mentioned a few times on
this show called Crossroads with Ralph Macchio. She's been in
much more than that, though she was in Twister the
nineteen ninety six to one. She was in Sixteen Candles, Yeah,
another one directed by Old Schumacher. There she was in
Sixteen Candles in nineteen eighty four, which is probably why
she was in this movie. But she was also in

(14:02):
a TV show from two thousand and two to two
thousand and six, still Standing. Last thing she did was
in twenty twenty two little show called I Want You Back.
But it was adamant to get her. But I think
it was right after Crossroads was it was pretty much
Actually it was right before this movie. My gosh, she

(14:27):
was in Solar Babies also, look at that in nineteen
eighty six. He was in Solar Babies with Obviously that's
where Jason Patrick knew her from. So she did The
Lost Boys right after Solar Babies also, so wow, didn't
again crazy doing these. But before we get too far
past Joel Schumacher and you're like, oh, well, what else

(14:49):
is he known for? We talked about him. Me and
Anthony discussed Joel Schumacher a little bit when we did
the movie Phone Booth, Batman and Robin House of Cards.
The he did two episodes of that a Bad Company
if you've ever seen that.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That was with.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
The guy who played was with Chris Rock and Jesus Christ.
The guy who played Anthony Hopkins, excuse me, Anthony Hopkins
eight milimeter, A Time to Kill, Matthew McConaughey, Samuel Jackson.
I believe that movie is on Hulu or Netflix, one
of those two. But Batman Forever Falling Down, Flatliners nineteen

(15:32):
ninety Keefer Sutherland once again starring in that movie flat
Liners excellent, excellent movie. Also was the director for Sanamo's
Fire and also DC Cab which now is on Hulu.
Actually saved it last night, So there you go, right there.
But Joel Schumacher excellent director, known for tons and tons

(15:54):
of movies. But obviously in June twenty twenty we lost
Joel Schumacher. But great career and it was a great, great,
great film director, producer, screenwriter, and even fashion designer. So
there you go with that. Now, I guess, I guess

(16:16):
we can get into a few more of the actors.
Let's get into let's do this. Let's get into the
Two Corries a little bit, because yeah, that's right, the
Two Corries. This film actually did make the Two Corries
in this movie. They were sort of known before this,

(16:42):
but this movie was the first movie was kind of
the birth of the two Corries, which is Corey ham
and Corey Feldman. Obviously we lost Corey Ham too drugs
a lot a few years ago and obviously horrible, but
this was the start of the Cory's. They played the

(17:07):
Frog brothers, Edgar and Alan. I think you can figure
out Edgar Allan, ed Ground Poe, Edgar Frog, Allen Frog Edgar.
It was definitely a tie in to the American author
Edgar Allan Poe the name, but this was sort of
the birth of the Two Corris. Actually, this was this

(17:31):
was kind of where all this stuff came from.

Speaker 12 (17:32):
It.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I don't think it's very hard to tell people how
big the whole Cory thing was, but they were absolutely
huge stars, the Two Corries for very much of the
eighties into the nineties. But I've got a few videos

(17:54):
here of I've got one of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman.
Jason Patrick is also with them. They're all just talking
a little bit about the movie, and I am going
to go ahead and play that for you right now.
Oh wait a minute. For some reason, I have no
volume because lately I've been having to go into the

(18:14):
audio and switch it to speakers and then we have
to restart it. Give me one second, folks, I'll get
this work and hopefully right now, okay, let's see put
some volume on that. Yeah, I can't hear it. This
is very strange. Hold on, make sure my volume's working here?

(18:38):
All right, this is working. This is working. That's working.
That's working. That's working. So why no volume? Audio devis there?
We go, Let's do this. Let's try this.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
In a chair.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Here we go. We got it now, all right, so
we got it planning. Now, I figured it out. I
apologize to everybody, and let's go ahead and get this
little interview planed to only fifty seconds.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, everybody was like, you know, he's so cute, such
a little nerdy kind of guy, you know. And the
Silver Bullet I was in a chair, you know, and
the Time to Live I was also had muscular dystrophy,
you know. I portrayed a kid who was dying. His
mom was freaking out, you know. So this is pretty
much my first chance to people just say, hey, you know,
he's a dude, you know, gnarly, Wait.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
There's Corey coreyem come here for a second. He's in
the movie with me. This is Corey Haim. He was
in Lots in the Ways, and he was in the
movie Licensed to Drive, which is coming out in August,
and we're doing that movie together too.

Speaker 10 (19:36):
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep yep.

Speaker 11 (19:39):
Anyway, so me and Jason changed bodies and this is
my best friend.

Speaker 16 (19:42):
His name is.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
Deber and I've got long black hair. In the movie,
they're gonna put extensions on, so it's like two inches longer.

Speaker 10 (19:51):
Thank you. This is my Hastye.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
This is beautiful, all right. So you can see they
were really good friends, these guys, they had a great
I'm together and I mean these listen, I'm gonna I've
found this gem. When I was digging up some stuff.
I've found a Corey hotline that's right from the nineteen

(20:14):
to nine, like late eighties, the Corey hotline. I found
a commercial and I will not deprive you. I will
play it and I'm doing it now.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Guess what, Corey Hayman, Corey Feldman are giving out their
personal numbers.

Speaker 16 (20:28):
If you call one nine hundred nine.

Speaker 9 (20:29):
O nine thirty seven hundred, you can listen to their
private phone messages and get their personal number where you
can leave them.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
A message of your own.

Speaker 15 (20:36):
Two dollars the first minute, forty five cents each additional minute.

Speaker 9 (20:39):
Ask your parents before you call.

Speaker 15 (20:41):
One nine hundreds nine O nine thirty seven hundred.

Speaker 11 (20:44):
If you call me right now, I'll give you my
private number.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
You call that number and you'll hear a recording, and
I'll give you my personal number if you call that,
and we'll wrap.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
There you go, so and we'll rap. Now, let's get
into the corries a little bit. Let's get in. Let's uh,
let's talk about let's you know, let's let's let's start
off with Corey ham. Corey Haym had a crazy little
career like he just like the Corey Feldman said. They

(21:17):
started in Licensed to Drive together also, but we lost
him in twenty ten. By the way, we lost Corey
Haym in twenty ten, I really didn't think it had
been that long. Wow. I really did not think that
it had been that long since we had lost him.
But wow, that's that's crazy. He mentioned Silver Bullet Love

(21:38):
that movie. Actually, if you go back to the horror
show this is that was my favorite horror movie. Had
a decent career, did about forty eight things. Obviously, when
he was younger, his career was really taking off. The
two Corey's thing really took off for him, but for

(21:59):
some reason and just didn't really catch on very much.
But they did Double Switch, which was another one. He
did a lot of little short videos also, But he
was also a biker gang member in Batman and Robin uncredited,

(22:19):
but if you look, you can see him. He is
in that movie You just gotta find him. And there's
a few other things he's uncredited for that he did,
but he was definitely didn't have the same career that
Corey Feldman ended up having. Corey Feldman is a little

(22:41):
out there. I know he's a little out there. We
all know he's a little out there. He's done this,
he's done Friday the thirteenth. Matter of fact, there's a
Goonies two announced that he's gonna be in. But he
he definitely did it. I mean, he's had a definite

(23:03):
crazy career. Corey Feldman, he has been doing movies since
nineteen seventy eight basically. I mean he was a television actor.
Like I said, he's a little out there. He's exposed
Hollywood for being pedophiles time and time again, and it
just never gets out there, but he's done it time
and time again. Was a huge, huge Michael Jackson fan.

(23:29):
They spent a lot of time together. I'm not going
to get in all that, really, I'm not. But he
was in some of the best movies ever stand By Me.
He was even in Gremlin's stand by Me the Burbs.
You're great movie right there, the Burbs, and it just

(23:50):
kept going and going, and he just kept doing movies
into the nineties. He was in Maverick with That was
a nineteen ninety four movie with Oh my God, Mel Gibson.
Really good movie Dream A Little Dream, Dream, A Little
Dream two. And he just kept doing movie and movie
after movie after movie after movie. But he was even

(24:12):
in the sequel to The Lost Boys, which we'll get
into the sequel to The Lost Boys a little bit later.
I'm not gonna get into that right now, but he
definitely still has some things going on right now. Corey Feldman,
but one hundred and thirty seven credits to his name
with I would say the three top movies if you
ask someone, you're gonna hear Goonies, Lost Boys and stand

(24:34):
by Me. That's really the three you're probably gonna hear
from somebody. You might get a Friday of the thirteenth,
but you're probably not gonna get there. You're probably gonna
get one of the first three I just mentioned, but
definitely one of the the out of the two corries,
his career was definitely the bigger one of the of

(24:56):
the corries. Now also had Diane Weist in these movies.
If you've ever seen Footloose, she was the mother in Footloose. Also,
she's done a few things Edward Scissorhands. She was also
in that movie Hannah and her sisters still doing movies today,
has something called Apartment seven as she actually just did

(25:18):
a voice for My Father's Dragon. She'd be coming out
very soon. She is in this. And also we've got
Bernard Hughes's the Grandfather and he is hilarious in this movie,
the old, kooky, crazy grandfather who's lived in Santa Clara
forever and just knows all about the vampires but didn't

(25:42):
tell anyone, So we'll get in all that. Don't worry
about that. We also had Edward her Man as the
basically he ends up being the head vampire. He plays Max,
and we'll talk about that. He was in Annie. Really
lots of movies for this guy too. He's actually a
voice on American Dad. He wasn't a voice on American

(26:03):
Dad for four years and did a lot of stuff
on that. So that was Edward Herman and Keifer Sutherland.
Like we've talked about a few times, Keifer Sutherland was
in this movie also and he plays David, not the
head vampire, but definitely got my daughter in here. Definitely

(26:24):
one of the higher up vampires in here. Hyland A, Yeah,
I'm talking yeah. So anyway, one of the higher up
vampires is Keith Sutherland, a daughter or son to Donald Sutherland,
who just awesome acting on his own. But we just

(26:45):
mentioned Phone Booth another movie that he was in. He
was a voice mostly in that movie Mirrors twenty four
Flatliners we already talked about. He has stuff still coming
out right now. But and he even played himself in
Zulander two, which I haven't seen Zulander two, but he's

(27:06):
definitely done so much, so much stuff, and like I said,
we've talked about him before, so not a ton of
reasons to get into that. But we also have Alex Winter.
That's right, Alex Winter is in this movie. If you're
going Alex Winter, who is that? Yeah, that's the guy

(27:27):
from Bill and Ted yep, not Keanu. He's in the
New Ones. That's not gonna say. It's the only thing
he's done. He doesn't have a huge career, but he
definitely does not have a giant career. But he was
in the TV show level up for a little while
back in twenty twelve. But he is in the new

(27:52):
Bill and Ted face the music that just came out
obviously from twenty twenty. So, but he's also done some directing.
I don't know if anyone knows that, but definitely he's
done more directing over the past. I mean basically since
the eighties. He's been even directing up until now, so
eighties are really and his acting credits though, like I said,

(28:15):
he's been a voice on Robot Chicken, been in a
few TV movies, lots of voice work. You'd know him,
but you don't know him. You know, he's one of
those voices that you just don't really know very much,
but he is. He is one of the good actors
on this not in here for a long time, doesn't

(28:39):
have a lot of lines in this movie really just doesn't.
But you know, what are you gonna do? Right? And
I'm just looking through something real quick here, all right.
I thought there was someone else that I need to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Really. There is one a little kid in this movie.
Chant it's Michael Korba, who plays Laddie. The other actors
in this movie are basically just, I mean, it's not
a giant cast for this movie. Pretty much. You've got
Michael played by Jason Patrick, who is the Basically you're

(29:19):
looking at a bunch of vampire recruiters. They are literally
that's what they do. They're teenage vampires who are have
been missing forever and there's even a sign and they're
going after him. They're trying to recruit Jason. We have
Jamie Gertz as star trying to keep him away from them,

(29:40):
but you know, can't quite do it. But so there
we go with all that. But I mean, just it's
hard to even tell you though, how huge the corries
were back then. At you know, just some of the
actors in this movie just were larger than life. And
those were those were two of them right there that

(30:03):
definitely had a hell of a career when it came out.
So all right, let's go ahead and get a little
more into some of the stuff in the movie, which
is gonna bring me to a right hiaw. And we
can go ahead and get into some of this stuff
about Lost Boys now. Now, So, like I said that,

(30:24):
that was pretty much the casting. It really was a
good cast for this movie. But just remember one thing
that they were not very known at this point, so
he was really putting a lot of his eggs in
this basket of these kids be doing this now. Budget
for this movie was eight and a half million. The

(30:46):
box office for it was thirty two point two. And
you gotta remember this was nineteen eighty seven. That is
a large, large opening for nineteen eighty seven, and even
more and even more so nineteen eighty seven though that
was a very good opening. Now, the kind of the

(31:10):
theme or the name of the movie is a little
bit in reference to the characters of Peter Pan's stories,
never grew grow Old. According to the Day, the central
theme of The Lost Boys is kind of never grow old. Actually,
there was a I put up a picture yesterday that
had a line from the movie in it. Sleep all day, Party,

(31:33):
all night, Never grow old, never die, It's fun to
be a vampire. That does sound kind of Peter panish,
you know, I don't want to grow up, you know
that kind of thing, never grow up, So I definitely
see where that is coming from. So yeah, that's basically
where the whole name kind of came from. Is just

(31:57):
they were kind of just envisioned it like that. Now,
they did also see this being four Speaking of for younger,
they actually envisioned these characters being much younger, much younger.
They were actually going to do like eight year olds
and like they were going to be cub scouts and.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Star.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
The female character in this movie was actually going to
be a boy. It was going to be a crazy
little thing. But Schumacher when they actually got this film,
now they only paid four hundred thousand for this this
script to this movie on February twentieth, nineteen eighty six,
so that's not bad. Now, they had eighty five is

(32:40):
when they announced that this film was going to be
made and then it got picked up. So they were
going to do very young, young, young young like Max
fourteen year old vampires, but decided to go with the
teenagers not late in the game, but pretty pretty good

(33:03):
distance into the game they decided to do it. Now,
most of the film was shot in Santa Cruz, California.
I remember they were in this town called Santa Clara
in here, which really didn't exist. It was all in
Santa Cruz instead of Santa Clara. But it was all
in California, and it was all shot right there, most

(33:23):
of it. So there was all that.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Once again, this movie came out at number two. Came
out at number two on its opening weekend. Domestically, this
movie grossed over five point two million its first weekend, which,
once again, if you just think about the time, and
I mean there was no streaming, You had to get
off your ass, you had to drive to the movie theater,

(33:51):
you had to go see the movie. Movies were different
back then, so it was definitely a completely different time.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Now.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
The movie got a great response, I believe it or not.
Roger Ebert gave the film two and a half out
of four stars, said the great the cinematography was great.
The cast, once again, Joe Schumacher put a lot of
his I mean eggs in the basket if you will

(34:20):
into this cast. And man, if you've ever seen this movie,
good God do they deliver. They deliver in this movie. Definitely.
Though for a vampire movie to be liked by critics
around was pretty good at the time, because horror movies
were just sort of horror movis. We just got different

(34:43):
genre where critics just don't usually like them. But this
was definitely a really fucking good movie. But Variety wasn't
crazy about it. They called it a horror horrifically dreadful
vampire teensploitation entry that daringly advances the theory that all

(35:03):
those missing children pictured on garbage bags and milk cartons
are actually victims of bloodsucking bikers. Wow, I think that's
a little, uh, a little overboard. I don't know if
you agree with me there, but I think that's a

(35:24):
little overboard. All right, that's Variety for you. Now, let's
get into the ah let's get a little bit right
now into the soundtrack a little bit now. In the
beginning of the movie. At the beginning of the show,
I played Cry Little Sister. I said that was the

(35:48):
theme song, but it wasn't really what people the song
people talked about in the movie. Now, Cry Little Sister
was a great song. It was a hit on its own,
and really basically he just kind of now. Everyone was
kind of like, how'd you get bands to get on
the soundtrack, and he's like, well, I asked him. That's

(36:12):
basically how it was. Now. He also directed some songs
for Inexcess. He directed The Devil Inside, but that was
the year after, so he did know in Excess, which
The Devil Inside was used in this movie. But cry
Little Sister was supposed to be the song that was

(36:32):
like the main song for the movie, but it didn't
turn out that way. A gentleman in the movie called
Tim Capello actually ended up being one of the, if
not the major, major songs in this movie, with a

(36:52):
little song called I Still Believe this guy though, you know,
you can make fun of him. It was a crazy
It was kind of an un necessary part. This film
definitely was always said to have homo erotic overtones, which
we'll get into in a little while. We have more
to talk about with that. But this whole Tim Capello thing,

(37:16):
he was up there. He was ripped. He is a
he's a trained composer, multi instrumentalists. You can pretty much
play every instrument out there, not just the saxophone, but
he's out there, he's ripped. They said. He was just
out there basically doing like literally just doing push ups
between scenes, just keep his keep his jack as he could. Now.

(37:41):
He was offered the role in this movie after I
guess Schumacher wanted him for some sort of role in
Beverly Hills Cop too, and he never never did so
that was just how it kind of came up. But
this part for him has become part of his life.
If you a lot of these little conventions, he's there,

(38:07):
and he's there as you know, the kind of sexy
sax Man or whatever, that kind of what he goes
as is sexy sax Man. So of course I'm not
gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down.
I'm gonna play a little bit of that bad boy.
Give me one second year, let me find it. I've
got it right here, and I think we're rolling with.

Speaker 17 (38:29):
It in the caves four days only a spot by

(39:08):
that way, pulling it out.

Speaker 11 (39:14):
This is a this is of sand.

Speaker 10 (39:18):
But still believe.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
To believe both.

Speaker 18 (39:23):
Fame through the grief, through the lie, through the storms,
the cries, through the wars.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Alright, so you hear the sacks in the back and everything.
And uh, like I said, he's just basically guys taking
this role and made a career of it. But he's
at a lot of the conventions still ripped. Still can
play all the instruments, obviously. And not only that, but
I got a little interview where he talks about it.

(40:06):
It's not that long of an interview, but let me
see how long is it actually, Let's see it's about
three minutes and twenty two seconds. I'll play that. And
I also have a Keefer Sutherland interview that I meant
to play when I was talking about him before we
get too far. We'll play that. Let's could actually use

(40:26):
a quick little breathing, take it ring break, So I'm
gonna go ahead and play this little thing. He was
kind of talking about his feature in the in The
Lost Boys in this interview. So here we go. You know,
our episodes they fly by because they're super fun, right, Well,
that means we don't get to include all of the
good stuff we get out of our guests.

Speaker 19 (40:47):
Here's a little bit from the cutting room floor.

Speaker 9 (40:53):
Full Lost Boys Iconic eighty soundtrack. I'm on this soundtrack.
It's so much a huge part of my life. I
don't know if I can be objective about it, but
I still know every once in a while I put
it on, I still love it.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I was on tour with Tina.

Speaker 9 (41:13):
Joel Schumacher, who directed the movie, was a fan of
some of Tina Turner's videos that had me featured in them.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
He really wanted this.

Speaker 9 (41:23):
Song, I still believe on the soundtrack, but the band
was a Christian band and I think didn't want to
have anything to do with a vampire movie. The luckiest
thing that ever happened to me, He said, you want
to do it? I said fine. I went in five
second meeting, you feel like.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Playing on a movie I'm doing? Sure? Bye, went and
did it.

Speaker 9 (41:50):
Had the record, knew every word, knew the entire song
backwards and forwards, didn't need a lyric sheet.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Did it in one take.

Speaker 9 (41:59):
I was in it out in an hour because I
loved the song. The song is sort of half a
song and half a prayer. There were a lot of
very big stars on this soundtrack, but their songs didn't
make as much of a splash as some of us

(42:22):
who were not stars.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I think we really.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
Listened to Joel Schumacher. He was a musical genius. This
is a man that knew music. He knew exactly what
he wanted and you can listen. There's songs coming in
from Australia, there's songs coming in from England, there's songs
from all over the United States. And that soundtrack from

(42:48):
beginning to end has a sound to it, that dark.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Kind of sound.

Speaker 9 (42:55):
Who would have ever thought that saxophones and vampires would
have gone together, And now it's thirty four years later,
and absolutely they go together like Peanut Butter and Chellie Band.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
What can I say.

Speaker 9 (43:13):
I'm a sucker for a great vampire movie, and so
far I haven't seen a better one than The Lost Boys.
They keep trying, and I know they're gonna keep trying.
I'm not sure they're ever.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Gonna hit it.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You gotta tune in Sundays. Well, I can't say I
disagree with him there. This is probably one of the
best vampire movies out there. And we'll get into more
of that now. Okay, So he's a He was a
sex sex player for Tina Turner. She had him on
some of the videos. And that's cool that you know.

(43:50):
He's like, oh, I was in and out in five minutes.
From my meeting and then I was in and out
of that scene in an hour. We didn't one fucking take,
one take. But he's right, there were a lot of
bigger bands on that soundtrack. You had Cry Little Sister
by Gerald McMahon. You had lou Graham Lost in the Shadows.

(44:13):
You had People Are Strange, which was covered by Echo,
and the Bunny Men. That's the Jim Morrison song, which
there was a picture of a there was a Jim
Morrison poster. There was a lot of little posters we'll
get into in this movie. In Excess Laying Down the Law,

(44:34):
Roger Daltrey, Don't let the Sun Go Down on Me.
We had you had Eddie and the Tide Power Play,
Beauty Has Her Way by Mummy Calls Another One, Good
Times in Excess and Jimmy Barnes and the Shock of
Miss Louise or to the Shock of Miss Louise by
Thomas Newman. So there were bigger acts, definitely, But he's right.

(44:58):
That song, excuse me, guys, that song right there made
his I mean it really basically made his career for
Tim Capello, that I still believe. And that was an
interesting fact about that. If you listen to that song.
He's right, it does sound like a Christian song. And
I could see the band not wanting anything to do

(45:19):
with a vampire movie. But cool little thing right there.
That was a cool little uh I listen, I said,
I was. I didn't listen to that interview before I
played it, But a great little interview with him. He's
he really seemed like a cool guy. I actually wouldn't
mind going to one of those conventions and meeting him.
It seems like a really down to earth, really cool,

(45:41):
just cool guy. So all right, we'll keep going a
little bit with this little movie here. I'm just trying
to make it a little easier for me to do
something here, because, like I said, we do have a
few clips to play as we're going through, and we
will most definitely get to that a little while now.
As I said, this was more of a movie that

(46:05):
kind of a recruit a recruiting movie became kind of
a teen recruiting movie. But just an unbelievable soundtrack though
for this movie, and just thought, you know, we had
to get into it because that is one of the
biggest things about this movie was the soundtrack and that
scene with Tim Capello so we've got that. Now let's

(46:28):
go ahead into a little more of this. Now. Once again,
this was supposed to be a little more of a
kid friendly version of this movie. Thank god, thank god
Letho Weapon came along, because otherwise, otherwise Richard Donner might

(46:50):
have actually directed this movie. We might have had a
completely different movie than what we had because he got
chose to do a direct lethal weapon, which we obviously
know may did great mel Gibson. Again, he got picked
to do the Leath the Weapon movies, which meant Shoemacher.

(47:10):
Shoemaker was able to come in and take this movie over.
So thank the Lord for that, because uh huh, this
definitely definitely could have been a different movie. And actually
people were saying to him that this script was like
a Goonies vampire movie. It's like, you take you basically

(47:33):
have the Goonies go vampire, is what this was. That's
what people were telling him. So actually, so Schuemacher just
ripped up that and said, all right, that's enough, no
more of that. So they got that out of there. Now,
we had been talking about Corey Feldman a little bit
and his character. Now if you see the two the

(47:55):
brothers in this movie, they're kind of badasses. Now, if
you go back to the eighties and you see you know,
you got Stallone, you got Chuck Norris, he got the
a lot of those. That's what Schumacher basically told Corey Feldman,

(48:17):
go watch all those movies. Be like Rambo, be like Rambo,
be like Stallone, be like Chuck Norris. He's like, that's
what I want you to be, a teenage version of that.
So that's what happened. That's why he is kind of like,
you know, throwing out those little one liners and doing

(48:38):
all that. That's exactly why that's all there, because that's
what he was trying to be. He was trying to
do those, to do that and do those one liners,
and basically he was that's what he was going and
trying to be. Schumacher said to him, that is your character.

(49:00):
I want you to meld all those guys together and
make something out of it. So that's exactly what he did. Now,
they're obviously vampire hunters in this movie. If you really watch,
it doesn't look like they've ever killed a vampire after
they got their first one, but these two brothers end
up being their vampire hunters and that's that's the whole

(49:22):
thing right there. So it was pretty cool though. That.
Now one other little thing that I'm not sure if
anyone ever knew. I actually never knew this. Corey Feldman
was actually fired during the shooting of this movie. In
the middle of the movie. He got to the set

(49:44):
and was high on cocaine. He apologized the next day,
Joel took him back and he did come back and
finish this movie. But again, could have been a different
movie had that be Now, Corey Feldman was not that
old when this movie was going on, just raunching everyone
to remember that if you watch this movie, he was
not that old. Now we're gonna go a little bit

(50:09):
now into the Remember I said there was kind of
a little homeorotic, little stuff going on with this movie
that people were always talking about. And maybe there was.
But Sam played by Corey Haim in this movie did
have a weird poster that everybody always asked about. And

(50:30):
it was this poster of Rob Low basically shirtless in
his like what like almost in his underwear, shirtless, gleaming,
hanging on Sam's wall and literally, it says, fans often
point to this one discussing the film's homo erotic undertones. Now,

(50:55):
the connection between Rob Low and Joel Schumacher is Joe
Schumacher wrote and directed Saint almos Fire the year two
years before this movie, in which Low played a saxophonist. Okay,
so there you go, right there, there's your tie in
with Rob Low. This that was a movie that he

(51:16):
had directed two years ago. Now, the Sixteen Candles poster
that is in another room we just talked about a
little while ago. That movie had Jamie Gertz in it,
who plays star in this movie. She played Robin in
that movie. So he left some small, little little references
to his Saint almos Fire film in there, and that

(51:39):
was just what he did. And there was another one.
There was another. Now, all the posters in this movie
had meaning. The Doors poster was in The Vampire Layer,
The Doors released the Original People are Strange. Again that
was covered by Echo and the and the Bunny Man.
So they did have some cool little posters and you know,
even to this day, they still mean something and they

(52:01):
still have sort of a tie in to everything that
he was doing. Now, now we had talked about the
just just a minute ago, we talked about some other
characters that you know, supposed to be a younger cast.
Blah blah blah. One person talked for being in this

(52:22):
movie was Ben Stiller. That's right, Ben Stiller was almost
a Lost Boy. Joel Schumacher did confirm this. Ben Stiller
said he was one of those faces people reported that
that he was going to be one at the time. Now,
he said, the last time I saw you know, he
he made a joke of it, and it kind of

(52:46):
he said, the last time I saw a room full
of so many talented faces when I was it was
when I auditioned for The Lost Boys. It was between me,
Keefer and the two corries. Now, no one knew if
he was joking, but he's the same age, so it
could be that that was one thing. And I mean
his dad was a famous actor, so he definitely could

(53:06):
have taken that casting call. Absolutely could have taken that
casting call. So now I know, I said I was
gonna play the key forer thing. But I've got something
to mention about him. So I've got a couple of
things that we can get into with the whole Keefer
Sutherlant Subtherlent thing. Anyway, Now, this movie, I had said
was very inspirational to a lot of other movies. Like

(53:31):
I said, before Twilight, before this, before that, I didn't
mention one thing. The fans of not even the fans,
but everyone said that Buffy the Vampire Slayer never would
have been around had it not been for this movie.
Right here, for the Lost Boys, it said basically, they said,

(53:55):
the idea of making them looking like monsters and then
looking like people, that was in The Lost Boys, and
that was useful for us. The uh, the creator Weedon
told Salon Magazine, he said, you you could have you
could have somebody fool you or someone like Angels seems
like he's not a vampire and then he is one.

(54:18):
So basically that's what he said. He took all that
overall look because Buffy the character, or Buffy's character was
in her character Spike. The Buffy character, Spike was inspired
by the film There's a Little Billy Idol, a little Keifer. Uh,
there's a little Billy idol, a little Keifer Sutherland and
Lost Boys. Now, we're gonna definitely tie that back in

(54:42):
because of the whole billy idle thing. Actually, we'll do
that right now. Now. Basically, the look that you see
with Keith Keifer Southerland to this movie does kind of
look familiar, and it is based off of Billy Idol.
Sutherland in on his first day on set, and he
told the makeup team to make me look like Billy

(55:05):
Idol because he thought Billy Idol was really cool at
the time. And he was. But that was it, he said, Scholmacher,
him and and Schumacher laughed about it for a lot
a lot of a lot of time. But turns out
the look and everything made for great, great, great look

(55:25):
look on for a vampire, and they went with it,
and there you go. But because he said, he said,
David originally had long hair, and he said he looked
like a wrestler, and he didn't like that. He didn't
like looking like a wrestler. So he did have the
blonde hair, but it came out looking like a looking

(55:47):
like more like Billy Idl, a little spiky and all
that stuff. So all right, so we've got all that
done right there. Let me get rid of that kind
of getting through some stuff here, going through, going through now,
if you follow this movie, keeper Sutherland does have a
very small amount of dialogue. Yet out of all of

(56:09):
the vampires, Keefer, Sutherland actually has the most dialogue of
all the vampires, and it's sort of that way for
a reason. It's sort of that way for a reason. Basically,
they were looking to have him say the fewest lines
because they wanted to keep them calm and cool, and

(56:34):
Schumacher just said, basically, he thought that the guy was
a born character actor and the least amount of dialogue
was great for him because he thought he had an
extraordinary presence on film. So, you know, he may have
had the least amount, but he had the most, the
most amount of all of the vampires. So where was

(57:00):
that now? Once again? He also he also broke his
wrist while trying to impress a girl on set. They
were doing those motorcycle riding things in the movie. They
were doing a little motorcycle thing when they were on
their way down to that bridge, if you remember, right
when they were taking Michael back to the layer and

(57:21):
they were doing this and they're sitting down there and
he was They all did their own stunts back then,
and he was doing the motorcycle scene and tried to
impress a girl and ended up breaking his wrists along
the boardwalk. So he basically told the whole story. It

(57:41):
was actually in twenty nineteen right here in Dallas. He's
at the fan Xpo, he said. He shared the story
and explained that trying to perform a wheelie in an
attempt to show off, but doing so failed as he crashed,
hit an obstacle, thrown off the bike, broke his right
wrist in three places, and then they had to get
a special cast so he could still ride the motorcycle

(58:05):
and do what he had to do on the motorcycle.
So guys, stop trying to impress Jakes. They don't care.
You know it. I know it well not now. There
was a scene in this movie when they're down there
in Kiefer Sutherland is trying to bring David in or

(58:28):
I'm sorry, bring Michael into this. David is trying to
bring Michael into this. And you see Michael. He's got
a box of Chinese food in his hand, and it
looks like some you know, I think it's a low
Maine or child man, whichever it is, and he looks
down at it. And then another point he looks down
at it and it's maggots and he freaks out. He

(58:51):
drops it. Pretty cool, We're gonna play it, don't worry. Well,
it looks like maggots don't move around a lot. They
really don't move without some sort of motivation. So they
said the bug guy kept having to squeeze lemon juice.
They had a resident bug guy, that's what, right, a

(59:12):
resident pro and he kept having to squeeze lemon juice
on them to get them to move. And we do
eventually see them move on camera. And that's gonna be
the first scene. I'm gonna go ahead and play right now.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Time come and get it boys, right, let's go Chinese.

Speaker 12 (59:35):
Good choice.

Speaker 11 (59:37):
Over here, Bud.

Speaker 20 (59:40):
Yes, first, you know you don't like rice. Tell me, Michael,
how could a billion Chinese people be wrong?

Speaker 12 (59:50):
Come on, are those maggots maggots? Michael?

Speaker 20 (01:00:00):
You're eating maggots? How do they taste? I'm sorry about that. No,

(01:00:20):
hard feelings are Why don't you.

Speaker 12 (01:00:23):
Try some moods?

Speaker 20 (01:00:27):
Their worms in their worms, Tony, their only noodles, Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
That's enough, all right. So this scene is gonna serve
two parts. So we just saw the heard the maggots,
and the worm scene. Even we kind of added to that. See,

(01:01:00):
now there's also a scene right here where they have blood.
Now he doesn't know it's blood. He thinks it's wine.
It's in this kind of wine goblet, old bottle looking thing.
So that's what they're doing right here. I just want
everyone to sort of know what's going on.

Speaker 16 (01:01:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
If you really take a look at the blood, it's
really shiny, like why would the blood you know, it's
glitter And some have pointed and said that they're wondering
if that's kind of where the Twilight movie got the
whole glowing, glittery vampires from. But anyway, that's just it

(01:01:37):
was just one of those little kind of fans always ask.
So here we go, let's finish this clip.

Speaker 12 (01:01:47):
I think some of this, Michael.

Speaker 14 (01:01:51):
Be one of us, Like, you don't have to like
my I go mys blood, I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Short, all right, So there you go. I think after
just being shown that maggots weren't maggots and worms weren't worms,
he doesn't believe it's blood. Obviously we know it is,
but he doesn't believe it is so pretty cool. Just

(01:02:32):
a great movie though. One of the great clip in
the movie though, that right there is one of the
greatest great scenes in the movie. And you know, he
doesn't really know. He doesn't know what he just got
himself into. But this is another scene where there there's
another another scene where, like, you know, you would think
that after that scene, you're like, Wow, Keifer Suldon has

(01:02:54):
a bunch of lines in the movie. Not really, not really,
he really doesn't. But that was pretty cool though, So
I thought I would definitely give that a little play
for you guys, and I've got more now. There was
some sequels planned for this movie. With it being such
a big movie, they tried throughout the nineties to do this.

(01:03:16):
They were trying to get The Lost Girls off the ground.
Scripts had gone through Hollywood for years and basically they
were told, don't ever, don't hold your breath for this,
It's probably not ever gonna happen. What we got instead
was The Lost Boys The Tribe in the twenty tens

(01:03:39):
and The Lost Boys or I'm Sorry in two thousand
and eight right around there, and then we got The
Lost Boys The Thirst, both direct to DVD. Corey Feldman
definitely was in both of these. Corey Haym was in
one of them, the second one just for a minute

(01:04:01):
or two. But neither of the sequels were were worth
a damn so they definitely flopped, definitely flopped in this movie. Now, now,
there were some cool shots in this movie. If you
watch the beginning of the movie, there's a a hood

(01:04:23):
ripped right off of a car and things like that. Now,
a lot of people were like, man, where'd you get
some of those? Now, a lot of they were very
hard to do and they were. Now if you look
at this is something that not a lot of people
really know with eighties. Classic eighties horror movies had a
lot of budget cuts in the eighties. What they did

(01:04:48):
is some of the scenes they cut their budget by
two million dollars by using unused b roll footage from
Top Gun that was used when all the povs, like
all the point of view stuff from when the vampires

(01:05:09):
were flying through the clouds. That's exactly what that was from.
That was footage from Top Gun that was never used
that they decided to go ahead and throw in there
and use. So pretty cool that eighties horror movies kind
of always did that. They just sort of threw unused
stuff from other movies. But there were some, Like I said,

(01:05:33):
that was one of the cooler little things that I
found out in this movie. But the other shots, though,
were really still expensive to do. They had a lot
of flying around and they were jumping off of this
and it just says that a lot of the you

(01:05:53):
could tell they were low budget because a lot of
the times they would cut to another scene right something was,
you know, happening. And you know, basically what he was
doing is when the vampires were kind of flying around,
he didn't show them flying. He was just showing like
almost like they were in a plane. And he said,

(01:06:15):
you kind of let your audience use the imagination to
fill in what's left around there. But that's kind of
how they got some of those really cool flying scenes.
And like I said, right in the beginning of the movie,
you see a roof get ripped up of a car,
and that's kind of what happens. But it was pretty
cool though. But now in this movie, we've talked about

(01:06:37):
Star a few times. She's the only one that we
never get to see in this movie in her vampire form.
Now that is her son though, plays Laddie in this movie.
But we actually he's a missing kid. We don't know
if it's her son. We just know she's taking care
of him. But she he's the only one we never

(01:07:01):
see as a vampire throughout this whole movie. It's just
for some reason never see it there after her, but
they never really do anything. Now I had said there
was a bridge scene. It was kind of right after
the scene we just played. They went after he drank
the blood, they took the motorcycles. They are hanging off

(01:07:21):
of a bridge and there was a train going over
him and they started falling one by one. That was
the Iron Horse Trailhead Trestle Bridge. It's in little north
of La off of Interstate five. So pedestrians now can
walk up and down that bridge and experience that for themselves.

(01:07:44):
Obviously they can't jump down it. It wouldn't be a
good idea. So they can still do that. Now, as
we're going through the movie, right when we meet the
Frog Brothers, there's they start telling they start telling Corey
Hame to watch out for vampires, and they break out

(01:08:06):
this comic book as a guide book called Vampires Everywhere.
Now there is now this was just created for this movie.
Now that is signed. There is a signed copy of it.
It is kept by the owner of Atlantis Fantasy World

(01:08:29):
in Santa Cruz. And now the original was now the
most of the original set was ruined. Where the film
was shot was ruined in the nineteen eighty nine earthquake,
the Loma Prieta earthquake they called it, and a lot
of the stuff doesn't exist, but this was saved and

(01:08:52):
it is in a new location. So there is a
signed copy of that book still out there. Now. We
had talked a little bit about All Winter Again, not
not only known for this movie, but also known for
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure with Keanu. He wasn't really

(01:09:14):
sure what he got himself into. I should have mentioned
this during the Tim Capello stuff. So he basically came in,
was taught doing a little thing in twenty twenty one
with Cinema Blend, and he's like, I walk in, he said,
I wish I had a camera. While we were shooting
The Lost Boys, he said that entire shoot was absolutely

(01:09:35):
insane and wild and fun and very specific to its era.
He said, my first day on the set, I got
to Santa Cruz the day they were shooting the beach
party scene. There's Tim Capello, the sax guy, all oiled
up right, bonfires and all of his insanity, and I
was like, what the hell is this movie? I just
signed on to do what is this thing? So he

(01:10:00):
was not very happy to do and until obviously he
saw the final script and was like, Wow, what a
great fucking movie. And it really ended up being a
great movie. So so there you go. I've got three
more little things. But I'm gonna play a few of
the clips and we'll sort of, like I said, I'm

(01:10:23):
not gonna go through absolutely not doing scene by scene,
especially not as far as into this as we are,
but we'll play a few things. Now. I had talked
about that little frog, the ed Edgar and Allen frog scene,
and I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna start by
playing that. This is right here when the Frog brothers

(01:10:44):
introduce kind of meet Corey Haim and I just discussed
this little just vampire Killing magazine, So this is a
perfect clip for that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Notice anything on you usual about Santa Carla yet, No.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 10 (01:11:03):
Plays if you're a martian or a vampire.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Are you guys sniffing on these print or something?

Speaker 11 (01:11:11):
You think you really know what's happening around here, don't you?

Speaker 10 (01:11:13):
Well tell you something you don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Shit, buddy, Yeah, you think we just work in a
comic book store for.

Speaker 12 (01:11:19):
Our folks home.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Actually I thought it was a bakery.

Speaker 10 (01:11:22):
This is just our cover.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
We're dedicated to a higher purpose.

Speaker 10 (01:11:27):
We're fighters for truth, justice. Ry hey Man, read this.
I told you I don't like horror comics.

Speaker 20 (01:11:41):
Think of it more as a survival manual.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
There's a number on them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Now, if you really watch this scene and you look,
you see we had talked a little while ago about
Corey Felman being told by Joel Schumacher to look more
like those, you know, the eighties action stars. He's got
the red band d I know, like rambo on. He
looked and you just heard him do like the little
one liner before he does look like it. Forty seconds left.

(01:12:07):
I had to break it. I didn't want to forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I'm back and pray you never need to call us.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
I'll pray I never need to call you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Sure, all right? So there we go right there, that
little clip. But yeah, he really did look like a
fucking eighties action star. Thank god he didn't try to
be that. So there we go. Now play a little more.

(01:12:40):
Let me make sure this isn't the same clip we
just played. Hold on a second here, all right, now,
this is another clip where this is after they had
done all that and drank the blood and everything. And
basically this is where they tried to tell him, that
tell Michael that he's one of us. As we're going
through the movie here, this is kind of one of

(01:13:00):
the earlier in the movie. We're still sort of going through.
But I've only got a few more clips to play
and we'll be done here. But here we go one
more clip. Will they tell them you're one of us? Buddy?

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
We should let Michael know what's going on.

Speaker 20 (01:13:16):
Yeah, Michael, and I'm Michael all the way.

Speaker 18 (01:13:26):
Fives up, man, whoa come with us?

Speaker 10 (01:13:36):
Michael, Michael, Michaelson. Yeah, I'm on down.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
So this is the bridge scene that I just mentioned
that's on the trestles off in l A. So here
you go.

Speaker 19 (01:14:17):
Welcome born, Michael.

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
Stop you have Michael, you.

Speaker 13 (01:15:06):
Are one of us? My god?

Speaker 16 (01:15:35):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
So there's really not many more much more dialogue here.
He hears them down there. Now he thinks he's oh,
I still got a plan. Sorry, Now he thinks he's
gonna die anybody. Hears them down there like they fell?
Why why can't I be? Eventually he does fall and
he falls right back into his bed and this is

(01:15:56):
where he was kind of his uh, his brother was
like what the fuck, dude, But he is figuring out
something's wrong with him most definitely. So there you go.
And this is where once again the the Frog Brothers
are gonna come up and kind of tell this is

(01:16:17):
where he goes after the dog in Nanook, and this
is where Corey Haim finds out his brother is a
creature of the night. So here we go.

Speaker 10 (01:16:54):
Mike, Michael, you there, look.

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
Like what happened? Would about? And look would you do
to my dog?

Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
You asshole?

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:17:07):
I didn't hurt him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
He pited me. This is my blood.

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
Why do you buy you? Mic?

Speaker 13 (01:17:11):
Huh?

Speaker 19 (01:17:12):
What would you do to him?

Speaker 10 (01:17:13):
He was protecting reflection in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Your creature of the night, Michael, just like out of
a comic book.

Speaker 18 (01:17:20):
Your vampire, Michael, my own brother.

Speaker 10 (01:17:22):
Goddamn shit sucking vampire.

Speaker 13 (01:17:24):
Oh you eat tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I didn't know shit sucking. I didn't know vampires suck shit.
That that that that that's a new one on me. Well,
at some point in this movie, they the Frog Brothers
tell him, look what you gotta do is you gotta
find the head vampire and that you know, make sure,
you don't invite him in. And they they think they
found the head vampire, that being, uh, the guy who

(01:17:50):
plays Max Edward Edward Hermann, And they think they found him,
and the frog brothers are trying to prove it, but
they forgot they invited him into the house. So here
we go.

Speaker 13 (01:18:07):
Taste Good'm wonderful.

Speaker 16 (01:18:12):
Boy.

Speaker 13 (01:18:13):
Somebody around here has bad breath?

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
No, no, would you quit breathing on me?

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Little?

Speaker 10 (01:18:21):
Get upstairs?

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Go on?

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
You want some parmesan cheese on that?

Speaker 16 (01:18:31):
Uh?

Speaker 21 (01:18:32):
Yeah, Sam, thank you very much.

Speaker 19 (01:18:34):
Sam Grady the cheese himself, my son.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
The budding chefs, the family.

Speaker 13 (01:18:45):
Oh, you are right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
No, it's not cheese. It's it's garlic.

Speaker 6 (01:18:53):
I hate garlic, don't you know?

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
I like garlic. It's just a little much.

Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
It's raw garlic, girlic.

Speaker 10 (01:19:02):
How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Guys?

Speaker 21 (01:19:04):
Your leg's going sun here?

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Quick took some word.

Speaker 10 (01:19:10):
Well, what's the matter with you? Burn?

Speaker 22 (01:19:14):
Burn?

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
What are your nuts?

Speaker 10 (01:19:16):
It's freezing?

Speaker 14 (01:19:17):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:19:17):
Look at your suit Max and your people.

Speaker 12 (01:19:20):
Oh I'm so sorry, gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
No, what'd be circu breaker?

Speaker 13 (01:19:25):
Mama?

Speaker 12 (01:19:26):
He's not glowing?

Speaker 17 (01:19:28):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Hit the lights.

Speaker 8 (01:19:30):
Ah, Sam Way has gotten into you tonight.

Speaker 21 (01:19:35):
I think I know what's going on around here tonight,
you do. Yeah, I know what you're thinking, Sam, But
you're wrong, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:19:44):
I'm not trying to replace your father or steal your
mother away from you. I would just like to be
your friend, that's all, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
So, like I had said before, they did all this
to try to figure out if he was a vampire. Now,
when you invite a vampire into your house, all his
power are rendered useless. So that's what happened here. All
the little tricks didn't work because they invited him in.
He actually tricked her to inviting him in, and he
kind of said, aren't you going to invite me in?

(01:20:12):
And of course come in, and uh, that's kind of
how that happened right there. But all right, So finally
with these guys all figure out what they are, they're
all vampires, and they find the Layer and they go
in there, and like I said, they were not ready
for what they were about to come into, but they

(01:20:35):
end up. First one they kill is Alex Winter, so
he gets it and they start dying, all the vampire.
I guess I can play a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
I thought there was supposed to be in coffins.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
That's what this cave is.

Speaker 6 (01:20:58):
It's what Jike coffin.

Speaker 10 (01:21:04):
Right now, it's right, the most honorable easy pickures.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
Remember, you just have to kill a leader.

Speaker 7 (01:21:09):
Huh.

Speaker 14 (01:21:10):
We don't know which one the leader is.

Speaker 12 (01:21:12):
I guess we'll just have to kill them all.

Speaker 19 (01:21:14):
We'll start with the little first come, first stick.

Speaker 10 (01:21:18):
What was that a little vampire humor?

Speaker 19 (01:21:21):
Was it funny?

Speaker 10 (01:21:28):
No?

Speaker 19 (01:21:28):
Don't even good night much sucker.

Speaker 23 (01:21:33):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Now, I do want to bring up when the vampires
do die, because this is going to be important. When
the vampires die, they all explode or in different ways.
And actually there's a little clip in the movie where
Corey Feldman tells him they may explode, they may implode.
You never know what's going to happen. Just remember that
all the vampires explode or something like that happens. So

(01:22:09):
there you go.

Speaker 12 (01:22:17):
You're doing.

Speaker 16 (01:22:32):
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
So the only thing saving them is at that point
right there, Chris Keifer Sutherland had a hold on his leg,
on Corey Haym's leg. Now he puts his hand out
in the sun and it catches on fire. Now there's
a point there where he has out of his left
eye one single tear drips out of his eye. Well,

(01:23:30):
those contact lenses they had when they were vampires were
nearly unbearable. They said that those were absolutely horrible. What
they did is to make apartment on set didn't have
very many luxuries. We talked about the budget cuts, so
all they could get was glass contact lenses which did

(01:23:52):
not allow oxygen to get through. So that was a
bad thing, causing a lot of pain in the eye.
So the upside was this scene right here where he
sheds that one single tear. Basically, he said his body
was trying to deal with how dried out his eyes
were and his eye watered. It wasn't a tear, there

(01:24:15):
was no pain, but it came out at the perfect
time for the perfect shot in the perfect scene. It
was just one of those kind of it made everything
really really awesome. So it was just like I said,
it just made for a great little scene in the
movie and was very, very very It was just one

(01:24:39):
of those clips you remember. So, like I said, when
they do when the vampires they can they meet it
some sort of gross demise. Whatever they do, they can
die in all different ways. And that was one thing
that we did figure out in this movie. Right there.
So let's go back, and I've only got a couple

(01:25:03):
more clips here, three more clips actually, and we'll go
ahead and get to the end of the movie after that.
So finally they do break into the house, the vampires
they do come over, and you got the brothers are
there doing everything they can, and here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
You're mine.

Speaker 16 (01:25:35):
More.

Speaker 15 (01:25:35):
Yeah, your next, your next, I really don't work, please
only one or.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
All right? So another gross death. We got blood coming
out of all the out of all the sinks and
drains and toilets and everything in the house. Uh so
there you go with that, and that was the long
hair dude. There you go. And uh now there's another
point one of obviously another a great scene here where
we got Keiper Sutherlin talking to Michael. He's kind of

(01:27:04):
messing with Michael, going after him in this scene throughout
the house. We're we're right at the end of the
movie here, folks, already, and then we'll be out of
here in the next i'd say, the next five six minutes.
So all right, so here we go. This is where
once again keep for Suttling talking to him to look,
you're one of us, dude, You got my blood. You

(01:27:27):
drank my blood. It's in your veins. So here we go.

Speaker 20 (01:27:30):
Tried to make you immortal, you tried to make me job.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Killer. This, by the way, was the first time we
saw Michael in full vampire mode too, So basically we
got two vampires going after each other right here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Spiter.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Now, what you guy remember is the grandfather is a taxidermists,
so there are antlers everywhere, big spiked antlers just want
to mind everyone that here me Michael.

Speaker 6 (01:28:40):
I don't want to kill you.

Speaker 10 (01:28:43):
Join us, never.

Speaker 12 (01:28:50):
Late, but blessing your brains.

Speaker 16 (01:28:56):
So is mine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
Now we see David die here, but no explosions, no implosions,
no crazy gruesome death, and there's a reason for that.
Once again, they were supposed to do these crazy kind

(01:29:58):
of or they were supposed to do sequels to this movie.
And after Dave is impaled by the antlers, he just
kind of fades out and dies, So they're kind of
saying that he may have survived the attack because he
was meant to come back in The Lost Girls. I

(01:30:21):
don't know what he was going to be in that movie,
but that right there was going to be part of
his character, which obviously they just let him die and
he never came back for any of them, but there
was no wooden stake involved in impaling him, so that
is what they were going to use if he ended
up coming back, which he did not. Now there was

(01:30:44):
even supposed to be another ending either way, we do
know that the great ending with Grandpa coming in and
crashing his jeep through the house and impaling Max and
then giving his little line basically saying the line, I
never one thing about living in Santa Carlo. I never

(01:31:06):
could stomach all the damn vampires. The other ending was
going to be in. It was an additional scene. It
was gonna be he Max was going to be wearing
a straw hat, had a smile on his face, talking
to a group of young boys and the group the

(01:31:26):
scene had been moved to the after the after the credits,
but after a while they just took the whole thing
out and never played it never. It really never saw
the light of day, as did the Lost Girl sequel,
which I hope it never does at this point because

(01:31:46):
what's the point now. But this is the last scene.
Here we find out who the head vampire being Max is,
and we're gonna hear Grandpa crash through.

Speaker 6 (01:31:58):
Well, you passed the test.

Speaker 21 (01:32:01):
Don't ever invite a vampire into your house, you silly boy.
It renders you powerless.

Speaker 10 (01:32:08):
Did you know that? Of course everyone knows that has
everyone gone.

Speaker 13 (01:32:13):
Crazy here with the manner, with all of you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
It was you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
I was, after all along, Lucy.

Speaker 21 (01:32:19):
What I knew that if I could get Sam and
Michael into the family, there's no way you could.

Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
Say no, where's Michael.

Speaker 21 (01:32:29):
It was all going to be so perfect, Lucy, just
like one big happy family, your boys.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
And my boys.

Speaker 10 (01:32:41):
Great.

Speaker 6 (01:32:42):
The blood's sucking pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
And I still want you, Lucy. I haven't changed my
mind about that.

Speaker 10 (01:32:52):
I didn't invite you this time.

Speaker 6 (01:32:54):
Max need to touch my mother, out my man.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Don't fight, Lucy.

Speaker 6 (01:33:26):
So much better if you don't fight Mom. Mom, don't Mom,
don't do mom, Mom, don't do it.

Speaker 8 (01:33:35):
No, no, no, no, here mom Mom.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
All right. So there you go, head vampire dead. Everything
goes basically back to normal. Great movie, though, but like
I said, this movie was very, very big. It was
Buffy the Vampire Slayer might not have even been around
without this movie. But excellent movie to watch. Like I said,

(01:34:31):
thirty five Years came out July thirty first, nineteen eighty seven.
Really wanted to go over and do this movie anyway.
I had never really done it. And the one thing
I forgot to do was I forgot to play the
Kiefer Sutherlin. And he was talking about a deleted scene
that was violent and gross in this thing. So let's

(01:34:53):
finish off playing that clip and then we'll wrap up.
Op gotta switch over to the audio. Give me one
second here, because I had accidentally shut it.

Speaker 22 (01:35:03):
It was the precursor, was the prototype for Twilight and
for True Blood and just the whole vampire crazy that
sort of happened twenty thirty years later. What was your
favorite scene in it?

Speaker 5 (01:35:15):
There was a scene that actually didn't make the movie
that I was really really excited about, and mainly because
it was just so violent.

Speaker 12 (01:35:22):
I couldn't believe that we were doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
It's sort of in the movie they cut around it,
but there was a guy on a beach and he
was bald.

Speaker 12 (01:35:31):
They had made a prosthetic cast of his head.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
The part of the scene that I loved the most
was I literally it was like a cake. I ate
the whole back of his head off and blood just
went everywhere. And I had been directed to just smile
like a child having cake. The two images were so
frightening and scary, and as an actor, that's what you
want to manipulate moments, and so the contrast of that

(01:35:56):
was something that at that age I found really exciting.

Speaker 22 (01:35:59):
So this did not make the film. I don't remember it, so.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
I can no. No, it was a bit. It was
a bit too violent.

Speaker 22 (01:36:04):
No, no DVD, no director's.

Speaker 12 (01:36:07):
Cut, not that I'm aware of.

Speaker 22 (01:36:08):
Oh man, we gotta fight that and get that on
you too? Was your look on that film inspired by
Billy Idol at all?

Speaker 12 (01:36:13):
A little bit? It's actually a funny story.

Speaker 5 (01:36:16):
Joel Schumacher wanted me to have long hair, and I
had long hair at the time, and then he wanted
it white, timeless, kind of thousand.

Speaker 12 (01:36:24):
Year old look.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
So I died it white, and my hair was like
normally long, like long everywhere, and I just looked like
a wrestler.

Speaker 22 (01:36:32):
And I.

Speaker 12 (01:36:34):
Hated it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:35):
And I just thought that's awful. And Billy Idol had
just come out. He'd been with Generation X I think
before that, but his first solo record had.

Speaker 12 (01:36:44):
Just come out, and he looked cool.

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
I mean, he just looked badass, and so I thought, well,
he's got white hair that could look really cool, but
Joel wanted my hair long. And so I actually think
I might have been responsible, or at least partially responsible
for creating the mullet, and for that I'll apologize to
the death. But so I went into the they were shooting.

(01:37:07):
I got there the second day of shooting, and I
went into the hair and makeup truck, and I got
her to cut the top short like Billie Idols, but
leave the backlong so that it at least didn't screw
the director over. He wasn't thrilled with it. But later
we've I mean, I've done five fills with Joel, so
we've joked about it later. That's how that happened. It
wasn't no one person got their way. It's never just

(01:37:31):
the idea and that's why someone looks that way. That
there's usually a lot of circumstances that go to creating
a look like that, and that was just, you know,
I think that character looks really cool, But it was
a complete accident that that all happened.

Speaker 12 (01:37:44):
As well.

Speaker 22 (01:37:45):
The soundtrack of movie that was kind of early on
it wore every movie had a great.

Speaker 12 (01:37:50):
Sound It was one of the first ones, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
I mean we had Roger Daltrey singing don't let the
Sun go down on Me. I mean, Echo and the
Bunnymen were on that record. Jimmy Barnes had a great
rock and roll track within excess on that record. I
was really shocked when that happened, because, you know, we
were making the film and I didn't know Joel Schimacher
was going to put together that soundtrack and it hit.

(01:38:14):
It had a couple big singles off of it. So
I was really proud of that film for a number
of reasons. Stylistically, it made a real imprint at the time,
and it has stood the test of time, and that's
a real tribute to Joel Schumacher. But the soundtrack, too,
was really innovative, and it was trying to teach the
film industry that music can help you not only make

(01:38:36):
your film great, but it can help you sell it
and it and it can work as a partner with you.
And that was a really exciting time. And as you said,
everybody picked up on it after that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Well there you go. That kind of just said a
lot of the stuff we had been talking about throughout
the movie. Accept that whole scene, but a lot of
the things that we had mentioned were right there mentioned
in that little little clip there. And you know, if
you look at the looks of all the other vampires,
they do have long hair except him, and he's right,
he did have probably one of the first mullets out there.

(01:39:11):
But yeah, that one with the whole billy idol thing
and all the stuff we'd been talking about. So that
was perfect. But anyway, I think that was the best
way to do that movie. I hope everyone liked the format.
I'm going to try to stick with this. I'd like
to do more information rather than just play clips of

(01:39:31):
the movie. I think digging through and finding out more information,
deep information about the movie is a better way to go,
And especially with this one, it's been thirty five years.
If you haven't watched Lost Boys by now, you probably
don't want to watch it, which is fine. But I
think what I'm gonna do right now, though, is go

(01:39:53):
ahead and get on out of here. I'm gonna go
ahead and rock out of here. So give me one second.
Oh man, my eye is suddenly itchy, So there we go.
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get that going.
I'm gonna turn this bad Boy on right here. We're
gonna get out of here, but appreciate everybody joining me
on Hollywood hang Out here once again. And like I said,

(01:40:16):
I'm probably not gonna do these live anymore. I'm just
gonna start releasing these Sunday maybe Monday mornings, and that'll
make it easier. I can just kind of get these
done as I do it. But anyway, do you want
you guys checking out the high Marks that is geez Man, Mojo,
and Gee Whiz. You should already be subscribed. If you
are not, go ahead and get there. You can find

(01:40:38):
them right here, mixer dot com, slash metle Mit podcast Network,
definitely check them out. You go on YouTube too at
Sunday nights eight thirty pm Eastern time. And of course
you got Bobby Anthem, Bobby Blades. Check out the Inhumans
on the Inhuman Experience. Go for it, Binge listen. You
can listen to them on all usual podcast platforms. While
you're there, check out Everything Unscripted a podcast that's right

(01:41:00):
Everything on Scripted wrestling podcast Eric, Doug and Daniel check
that out. Also, they're also on blog talk Radio and
her eup Network. And speaking of reviewing, movies, says we're
doing it. Steve Milan letterboxed bo xd dot com slash
Stephen Milan, two l's and Milan. He is reviewing movies,

(01:41:21):
and go ahead and leave me a review. This show
right here is on all the usual podcast platforms. Leave
me a review on Apple. Let me know if you
guys like the new format, and you can find the
show on Facebook and everywhere. And me and Smart will
be back again Wednesday night, right here, right after aw
right around ten to fifteen pm Eastern time, and we'll

(01:41:45):
be right there for it. But on that note, I
appreciate everybody coming on by and joining me. I am
David Richardson. I appreciate everyone joining me on this show
of Hollywood Hangout for the Lost Boys. And that is it,
so so

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