June 16, 2025 • 51 mins
In a sure-to-be classic, Bo and Joey dial up an old fashioned Home Brew episode and talk about George Washington's expedition into the Ohio River Valley and a showdown of empires!
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We're talking about George or is this this is a
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Speaker 1 (09:22):
He's actually as close as you're probably gonna get because.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He is a George w but he's not the George
that's second.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Uh, Orville not to be mistaken with Orville Red and Baker,
you know right, Yeah, no relations.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Oh guy, George, different George, different George at one fights
this this George, this George, but still not the George,
not the.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
George that that is, the young George Washington that we're
going to talk about to.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Uh, you know, it's funny and and you know you're
you're you're a fellow historian.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Uh you know, do your friends who are who are
non historians send you historically related memes?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, most of them don't know not to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's fair. I have some that still do, and some
of them they find as bangers. And one of them was, you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Know, George, George, young George Washington's was six foot two
and he ran like a four forty, you know he
was he was playing for the wrong Patriots.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The New England Patriots need help since Tom Brady's been gone.
We know that. Yeah, it's it's terrible. Uh, they need help.
But thank god I'm not with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I I mean, your team's no better. You're a Cowboys fan, But.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We all have our sins. We all have our vices.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What about the Steelers, since we're going to talk about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
What are they doing? They are hiring the old man.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He's basically dead.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
In my yeah, I'm you know, he's got the opportunity,
the funniest thing, the off to their money and tear
his other the other one.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Break it, just break the other one.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That poor man. You know what, I didn't realize that desperate.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Apparently apparently Nike needs another not Telean needs another championship
before the ah, well shall we? History first noticed George
Washington in seventeen fifty three, and a daring and resourceful
twenty one year old messenger sent on a dangerous mission
into the American wilderness. He carried a letter from the
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Governor of Virginia, Robert Dinwiddie, addressed to the commander of
French troops in that vast region of the Blue Ridge
Mountains and south of the Great Lakes that Virginians called
the Ohio Country. He was ordered to need a small
party over the Blue Ridge, then across the Allegheny Mountains,
there to rendezvous with an influential Indian chief called the
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Half King. He was then to proceed to the French
outpost at presque Isle now present day Erie, Pennsylvania, where
he would then deliver his message in the name of
his Britannic Majesty. The key passage in the letter that
he was carrying, so it turned out, represented the verbal
opening shot in what American colonists would call the French
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and Indian War. The lands upon the River Ohio and
the western parts of the Colony of Virginia are so
notoriously known to be the property of the Crown of
Great Britain that it is a matter of equal concern
and surprise to me to hear that a body of
French forces are erecting fortresses and making settlements upon that
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river within His Majesty's dominations. The world first became aware
of young Washington at this moment, and we get our
first extended to look at him. Because of Dinwiddie's urging.
He published an account of his adventures, the Journal of
Major George Washington, which appeared in several colonial newspapers and
was then reprinted in magazines in England and Scotland. Though
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he was only an emissary, the kind of valiant and
agile youth sent forward against odds to perform a hazardous mission.
Washington's journal provided readers with the first hand report on
the mountain ranges, wild rivers, and exotic indigenous peoples within
the interior regions that appeared on most European maps as
dark and vacant spaces. His report foreshadow the more magisterial
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account of the American West provided by Lewis and Clark
more than fifty years later. It also, if inadvertently, exposed
the somewhat ludicrous character of any claim by his Britannic Majesty,
or any European power for that matter, to control such
an expansive frontier that simply swallowed up and spit out
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the European presumptions of civilization. Oh, Joseph Ellis, in his excellency,
we'll help us follow the life of George Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But I mean that was eloquent. You could, now, I know,
especially with what we know you know about this whole event.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And what Joe is talking about is is a young
in Washington in the early days of the French and
Indian War, something that you know, he doesn't have the.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Hindsight, but luckily you know, we do.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So let's going to be the topic of discussion this
evening is how Washington gets entangled in all of this,
because really he's, you know, the one that that's sort
of commanding, you know, colonial militia forces that are really
going to start the whole fire, this whole situation. So
one of the things that's incredibly interesting is early on
in Washington's life, at around age sixteen or so, especially
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in the spring months of seventeen forty eight, He's actually
hired by Lord Thomas Fairfax, which Fairfax he is part
of the landed gentry there in Virginia, someone that Washington
hopes takes him under his way, someone who Washington definitely
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wants to take inspiration from. So Fairfax actually hires him
to survey some western lands in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Now, Joey, at age sixteen, what what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Not that?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Not that I am definitely not surveying the lands of
western Virginia at sixteen, I'm probably worried about acne. I'm
probably worried about getting my driver's license.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Never had that problem that really do anything, Yeah, I had.
I didn't wear hats apparently, like if you sweat and
you wear hats. No, I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
My sweat sitting down so that that doesn't bother me.
But I did wear hats, I played baseball, So yeah,
maybe you're on.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Something there, medical journals. What can you say?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What can you say?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You know, it is this experience in western Virginia that
will assist him later in life because in one of
the biggest problems too for a young Washington is, especially
in North America, the lands between the Thirteen Colonies and
New France. The borders between these two places is very
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clearly undefined, especially in the Ohio River Valley.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Here's where the problem was.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oftentimes both the French and the British will sign land
trees with a variety of different Native American tribes. The
problem is is that these treaties oftentimes contradicted each other.
And we know that any time that you know, especially
things like land treaties contradict one another, that can cause confusion,
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It can cause conflicts, and of course it can cause bloodshed.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And this is exactly what it's going to cause.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So Judy read just a little bit earlier from Ellis's
book that there was French presence in the Ohio River Valley.
In fact, around seventeen fifty three, there's a French aristocrat
by the name of the Marquis Became. He was the
one that sort of oversaw the development of French forts
and forces in the Ohio River valley. What the Marquis
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Became is trying to do. He is trying to establish
a connection between Lake Erie and that of the Algaming River.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
One of the more important forts that is under his
supervision is that of Fort lebuff And I guess kind
of reading into the early days of the French Indian
War for young George Washington.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I find it kind of funny that the French and
Indian War starts for him on the Halloween October thirty first,
seventeen fifty three.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Bad Time.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Gouls and goblins, Goblins and well, George Washington.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
In George and George, it's the three Gesus of the Apocalypse.
You know, it's a late night episode, right.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Ghoules, goblins and George, the three headed the three headed horsemen.
Oh lord, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's what I'd called ye late night with Washington.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
That sounds dirty, that sounds sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Sorry, guys, sorry, I'm not putting them on. I'm sorry, Martha,
I don't I don't mean anything. By it, Martha, you
just say that name. Oh lord.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Anyway, so George Washington does he gets in seventeen fifty three,
and all of a sudden he starts interacting with not
only Indian tribes and like local native people, but we
also runs into the French, which for the Englishmen technically
he is an Englishman. It's never a great thing.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I don't know, would you say it's it's really
the First World War that that kind of brings France
in Britain finally together.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know, I'm actually reading about that in Margaret McMillan's book.
Yeah yeah, but even then, like still not right. It's
not so much a rivalry. It's just like, yeah, you know,
we're all enemies. But I really don't like those Germans. Yeah,
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Germans at all.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I don't love you guys. I kind of like you love.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
But she actually makes a really good point. I was
reading it the other night. It effectively takes World War
two to get the British of the French on side,
and nineteen forty could have derailed that, yeah, very easily.
But like that was what kind of at least fosters that. Yeah,
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oh yeah, but for right now in George's day. They
all hate.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Symbols very much, so you know, but because Washington does
have uh the experience in land surveying out there in
western Virginia, and you mentioned him a little bit earlier,
which he still arguably holds the funniest colonial governor name,
and I think all over colonial American history is Governor
Robert Dinwitty.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I have yet to find a funnier name. But Dinwitty
actually selects Washington for this journey to the Ohio River
Valley to basically tell the French to kick rocks well
and to be fair to our listeners. Where did I
get the inspiration for this, Well, I'm actually teaching Colonial
America in the fall, so I actually picked up a
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new book called The War that Made America, a short
history of the french Man named War by Fred Anderson.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Also Fred Anderson, if you're listening to this, I know
two giants. The check your email.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I've sent you a lovely, lovely email to hopefully have
you all Fred And if you know, if you know
a Fred, but hopefully this freend, bring the Flintstones, bring
Fred from the Mystery Machine and Scooby Doo.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Either one I'll take I'll take that, Fred.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, well, Fred Anderson, he writes this, He says, why
the governor picked a twenty one year old major of
the Virginia Militia for this mission a man who spoke
no French, had little formal education, and an utterly lacked
diplomatic experience may not seem intuitively obvious. Young Washington, however,
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had several qualifications. He had the backing of the board, the
spare Bax, which we just talked about, who approved of
the work of Washington that he had done for him
as a surveyor. He had an intense ambition to prove
himself worthy of public trust and thus to rise in
the ranks of the planter gentry. And he had both
a willingness and I like this word that he uses,
and the heartihood to undertake a five hundred mile journey
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under miserable conditions in the late fall and winter of
the year seventeen fifty three. Yeah, you know, so he's
twenty one years old. You know, he's a major in
the Virginia Militia. And the governor comes up to him.
He's like, dude, look, if you travel like five hundred
miles that way, you're going to eventually run into some
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French shin when you get there, tell him the scidaddle
or swam or lay leave whatever. Oh, now here's a letter.
I put it more eloquently in this letter. Could you
deliver it to Washington's Like, Yeah, I'm twenty one years old.
My frontal cortex hasn't developed all the way yet. That's doe.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
All I know is daring to things and do as
it were. I mean, coming back real quick, just to
that that passage that Ellis included that the letter says,
the lands upon the River Ohio in the western plains
of the Colony of Virginia are so notoriously known to
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be the property of the Crown of Great Britain that
it is a matter of equal concern and surprise to
me to hear that a body of French forces are
erecting fortresses and making settlements upon that river within His
Majesty's dominions.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, it's it's almost like he's clutching his pearls. Yeah,
a Frenchman on all lands.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I mean, admittedly, if the French were on my land,
I would be upset to.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I mean I'm just saying that my people.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's for Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Maybe got kicked out of Canada for war.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, if we're on the French line, that we have
a problem. But this one's for Bill. Yeah, I'm here
to tell the French to leave.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm here to tell them to leave. That's what George
Washington is also tasked to do. So Washington good man,
good Man. So Washington does. He takes this five hundred
mile journey, and it is arguments he's got to deal
with all kinds of things, from you know, horrible weather
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to combative native tribes as well.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
By December of the same year, seventeen fifty three, Washington
is able to arrive at Fort Lebaux mostly unscathed. He
delivers Governor Dinwoodie's letter to the French commander of Fort Lebau,
a guy by the name of Captain Jacques Dave Saint Pierre,
which is again arguably one of the most French land ever.
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Pierre well two days later, which this is you know,
I don't know, the French kind of like have him
waited out.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But after two days of discussion, obviously I think.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The French take this as sort of a humorous thing, uh,
And they take two days they come up.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
With their response, which is essentially, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
We're already here, you know, We've already built Fort Lebove
in the Ohio River Valley. It's just it's not we're
not We're not going anywhere. These are lands claimed by
the French monarch. You know, only he can tell us otherwise. So, yeah,
exactly that one exactly to you know, exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think it's in Shakespeare. I think Shakespeare says I
am I bite my thumb.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean do you think the French. Do
you think the French you are even at all threatened
by this this guy in a band of Virginia militiaman
or do you think they're they're just like, okay, one
of the strongest empires in the world is here and
is making its claim to this land. Will you will
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you please?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think it's happened, you know, and especially because they're like, well,
we're here first, clearly, we've established before, therefore it is
our land.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
And some you know, royal governor in the Colony of
Virginia is trying to scare us off with a letter.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh you know, it's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So Washington effectively has an answer which, as the Spanish
say no, as the English say also no. By January
of the following year, seventeen fifty four, so just about
a month, about a month and a week later, Washington
is able to return to Williamsburg, Virginia, where he gives
Governor Dinwiddi the you know, French response, which is effectively no.
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Well for Washington's efforts on this arduous five hundred mile journey,
he has actually promoted in the Virginia Militia to the
lieutenant colonel in the spring of seventeen fifty four. And
you mentioned earlier Washington's journal, right, So Washington's journal, like
Ellis said, gives us a very right.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I have to put this up here. I must. You
know I was a god once.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Keep this one corked up for whatever I talk about
the Virginia colonies.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Oh my god, I love that. Perfect said that to me.
I think I just found a new slide in my
Colonial America class. But only there, Yeah, only only there, God,
I love it. I love that.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
For the listener who doesn't get to see YouTube, we'll
go to YouTube and subscribed and fulldle along for the fun.
But it's uh yeah, it's a map of Virginia as
Virginian's side in sixteen ninety two, and then again by
seventeen seventy six, and then again by seventeen ninety two,
and then by eighteen sixty three where the state of
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Virginia has now been for It's just great. And the captures.
You know, I was god once, but it.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Was it's like, okay, Grandpa, time for bed.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Are you sure did you take your medmens?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know, so Washington's journal it does provide us a
very unique perspective, especially you know, it gives us a
glimpse into a lot of things, especially from tier diplomacy.
But this expedition to Fort Leboff is absolutely crucial development
of a young Washington because what he learns something incredibly important.
He really learns the complexites of not only leadership. Oh
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oh sorry, I don't know where I went. It was
just like, oh, hey, you know he's too ugly, let's
go ahead and cut him off. My god, yeah, Jesus. Anyway,
this is absolutely crucial to Washington because he does learn
the complexities of leadership and political allegiances, especially between French
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and other native tribes in the English and also other
native tribes a well.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Well Washington he does.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
During this expedition, Washington actually met up with the Shawnee
and the Seneca native tribes which sometimes the Seneca are
known as the Mingos, and Washington hope to kind of
form a British alliance with these with these native tribes.
But more importantly, Washington actually meets with a Mingo or
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the Seneca chief and you mentioned him a little bit earlier,
the half King, a guy by the name of Chief
Town of Charleston. Well, Charleson was eager to kind of
forge in an Anglo Native alliance because he with that
sort of brought to the Seneca tribe. Well, the sort
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of new Anglo Native alliance, if you will. Between really
the Virginia militia and the Mingos tribe really have their
first glimpse of what it means to be partners in
the you know, colonial frontier, if you will. On the
twenty eighth and May seventeen fifty four, the now Lieutenant
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Colonel George Washington and Chief Tannah Charleson all that a
raiding party of about forty men or so against the
French soldiers and what is now modern day Pennsylvania. Well,
this raid kills about ten frenchmen. It also results in
the capture of another twenty one. Washington had no idea
that this raid would absolutely set.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
The world on fire.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And this attack represents the first bloodshed of what we now.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Know as the French and Indian War.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And I know they say that, you know, hindsight's always
twenty twenty, but it is here. You know, Washington has
no idea that what he's about to experience in this
raid is going to culminate in almost a decade's long
conflict here in North America. Well, this raid included Virginia militiaman.
(31:17):
It also included Native warriors under the command of Chief
Tana Charleson. By Washington's own account, upon seeing the Virginians
advancing on their position, the French grabbed their weapons, obviously
for their own defense, forcing Washington's men to open fire,
thus killing around ten men and leading to the capture
of another twenty one. After about fifteen minutes or so,
(31:41):
the fighting, this still skirmish kind of comes to an
end and the French surrender the Washington. Now here's the problem, though,
is that the details of this skirmish are a bit hazy.
It's one of those he said, he said stories. The
French claim they had no they had no clue about
(32:02):
Washington's men until the very first bombing, whereas they also
claimed that Washington's men were executing some of the wounded
frenchmen after this skirmish had taken place. But in Washington's journal,
Washington writes and he states that it was Tanna Charleson's
men that are executing the French, and they are scalping
(32:27):
these French dead as sort of war trophies to prove
to their native allies as well, because they're allied with
other native tribes as well, that war has begun here
and this is sort of the rallying crime, if you will.
And all of this sort of just happens so quickly
and so rapidly. The French claim that the men that
(32:50):
were attacked here in western Pennsylvania, these men were ambassadors
under the command of a man by the name of
Joseph Jamonville is actually one of the ten that's actually
killed in the skirmish, and the skirmish becomes known as
the Jamanville Glenn skirmish, or sometimes just simply put Uh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You're killing with your your you're mister Frenchman and butcher also.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
My most fash. I mean I can that I'm more
German than anything.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, you don't get to do this as a bomb
thing anymore. I'm taking out. No, that's that's Cajun. That's
not French revoked. Yeah. Yeah, Cajun and French are two
totally different things. Your your your French speaking past is revoked.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, only only the French people could do that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The other day, I was at work and there were
thirty a group of thirty eight frenchmen that came in
and no one could speak to them. And I walked
out and I was like, okay, I'm I'm confident that
I'm just rusky enough to piss them off.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And were you.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I was competent. I was competent. They just thanked me
and said sebon in the see and then walked on.
But I I stumbled us through. Hey, here's a map.
Let me know if you have any questions, so hey
(34:28):
that you know, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I'll think.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But at this point, right now, as we stand scorekeeping,
I'm better at French than you are.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I will make no claims of being.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Hey, check outline page three. What's this word? I got
you home?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I got you I know I know how to get
to a library or a bathroom in Spanish. And that's
really the only two places like I think I need
to be.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, a hell of a shame if you you mix
those up. Wait, no, I need the.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Bath Oh gosh, Oh my god. I wish I was
better at languages, but I'm I wish.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I had the patience for it. Yeah, I can barely
speak English. So I put a microphone in front of
me and said, talk monkey, and so here I am.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Here, we are, uh what our opinions are worth?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Well not a Koch McDonald's. So take that what you will. Okay,
you said McDonald's. I got to tell you something. I
gotta say something, you know. You know, I've been taking
my health very seriously, and I've been watching my way
and watching doing doing good, and I like to say,
you know, and then well, I just wanted to see
because we keep seeing, you know, chicktoks and such for
(35:48):
it ads. I tried the new mccrispy's Krispy's trips funds
crap they were there was just bad. I think that
was good about it was the the creamy chili sauce.
Like that's the only thing that gave it any flavor.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Like, I've never had a more flavorless chicken tender than
that one. And like, look, I like raisin canes for
the nostalgia of raisin canes. I would admit to you
that that chicken doesn't taste like anything without sauce. I
would take that one thousand Canes chicken tenders over one
of those McDonald's chicken strips to never have to eat
(36:29):
it again. Ye do, Now, let me put John something
that creamy chili sauce on a raisin Canes chicken finger,
or that creamy chili sauce on a Chick fil a
chicken finger? Slaps.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
It was you and I had made a Cane's pizza
that one time, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yes, we've done that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I remember that.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
That was a good, very fat thing to do.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
That was very bad thing to do.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And we are big back and we will always be there.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yep, my back's aout as big as a football field.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm shrinking. My back is shrinking much smaller than it
once was.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Mine is about the same size, but it's a bit
muscular a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You know, there's some horse sap listening to this that
was like I tuned in for Washington.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I did.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, where's the many adventures of George buried somewhere in
all the asides and digressions.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's true, but we promised to always bring it back.
So after after that's that's a long wooded way of
coming back.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I bet he would have wished for some of these
trick and tenders during the windre at Valley Forage. Bam,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Earlier.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, but thirty years earlier, prior to all that, and
so after that, this is seemingly insignificant Scarmish is at
the time. About a month later, really, in the beginning
of the summer June seventeen fifty four, washington Is men
they travel further into western Pennsylvania to actually a supply stocking.
(38:15):
Washington his men knew that they would eventually face a
French force that was going to be sent after them
following this affair that.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Had just happened in Monk Prior.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Washington his men build a fort of necessity, as he
calls it, which is what they.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Call it Fort Necessity. But yes, what we call it.
Oh he doesn't want to.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Go away, Oh he wants to stay on here. There
it is there, It is so Washington's man.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
They retreat to western Pennsylvania in this area called the
Great Meadows. It's a really cool map that Joey brought
up here right there at Fort Necessity. It's not too
far from Fort to King Well. As they make this
Fort Necessity, which is the bare bones of what I mean.
Calling it a fort is a bit of a point.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
You do not want to call for it ducuine Fort Duquesne.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I can, I can, And there's Fort Leff And.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yes, I hear that is a picture.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
But I mean that's quite literally as bare minimum as
one can get, right, I.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Just a big circlus sticks man, yep, I could do
this with Lincoln Lugs, coffee Stars, model builders. Let's see
your best fort.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Easiest one out there.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It's like the uh fort building fort model building for beginners.
We need sell that on like whenever, if, and whenever
we do get a website to put how.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
About just a big ziploc bag of broken star I'm
not even gonna buy coffee stirs.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Who's go in the woods behind the house and grab
a bunch of twigs right there, my guy.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And then we send him a picture of what Fort
Necessity looked like. In this picture, they don't feel like
they've been ripped off. Well.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Washington has under his command about two hundred and ninety
three militiamen, but he's actually reinforced a little bit later
about by about one hundred British regulars by Captain James McKay,
making things making things a little awkward though. The French
force that's actually sent out to meet Washington in western Pennsylvania,
(40:41):
there's about six hundred of them, and there's also, you know,
a couple of hundred it's a little bit less than
that Native Americans as well. They're allied with the French.
But the commander or the commander of these six hundred frenchmen,
they are actually taking commands from the Jamonville's half brother,
(41:03):
a guy by the name of Louis de Villiers. And
I mean, I can't imagine how awkward that would be.
You know, the half brother of someone I just gunned
down about a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
He's probably going to be very vengeful, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So he's got under his command about six hundred frenchmen
and the French begin their attack on Fort Necessity on
July third, seventeen fifty four. The battle doesn't last long
at all. It's actually over in less than twenty four hours.
It's actually over in less than and you know it's
a little bit no, it's a little bit under twelve.
(41:44):
It's still ten hours. I just did quick math. Wow,
ten hours. The battle takes place over Fort Necessity. The
battle begins at eleven am, and Washington accepts the French
terms of surrender by eight pm.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
The same day.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
The question is what exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Are the French demands for Washington and his minute force necessity.
They're summed up fairly shortly. There's a lot more than
just this, but the three big ones, the three big
takeaways from these, you know, sort of terms of surrendered
by the French. First of all, leave your swivel canons,
take everything else we want those Those are cool, okay, leave.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Your sivel can use those, We can use those.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Secondly, this is ours name, this is mine's now. For
necessity is ours. The sticks in the ground, yeah, leave that,
that's ours now. And lastly, Washington actually has to agree
on signing off on a quote unquote apology for quote
(42:50):
unquote assassinating. Uh Billier's have brothers, Jamon bill Now this
is and we kind of save, you know, boo Hicky
for last, but you know this is sort of the
kind of the interesting boohicky behind it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Shall we call this the boo hickey? This is gonna
be boo hickey. Let's make this boo hickey.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Because thank you Washington. Years later after what occurs at
Fort Necessity.
Speaker 7 (43:26):
Washington realizes later that he signed off on an apology
taking full responsibility for that word they're assassinating, for assassinating Jamonville.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
And Washington's like, I didn't do that. I didn't assassinate anybody,
you know, And if I'd have known that, right, but
I've known that. I've never signed off on this apology
at all, because I can't take responsibility for something I
didn't do. Washington's translator, This is interesting. Washington's translator at
(44:03):
Fort Necessity was a dutch Man by the name of
Jacob von Brahm. Jacob whose native tongue, whose native language
was neither French nor English, mistranslated the word assassination.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Washington argued after the fact that he would.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Have never signed off on anything that blamed him for
assassinating anybody. But here we are, and what ensues after
all of this is the beginning of a conflict that
will strain the relationship between mother country, Great Britain and
her thirteen colonies in North America.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
And hear what we start to hear. We start to
hear very quietly, very silently. We are starting to hear
the drums of revolution begin here.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
In one of these days, one of these days, he
gets to do that.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
He gets to do that.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Almost two hundred and fifty years later. I get to say,
I'm really sorry, Will you take us back?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, you try again.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Yeah, you'll be too late for gives you back seas
soon you'll see Yeah, we see it, we see it. Wow, God,
please stop him before he starts singing yeah, please Jesus. Well,
so it makes us back around. And I've got to
(45:35):
say that was fantastic. Yeah, I can't remember if we
said it in this or in the botched version of
this recording that we did a week ago, and then
we had to stop halfway through. But like, this is
a chapter of history that we don't normally get to
on Homebrew, because you know, we kind of follow our
(45:58):
own little rabbit holes everywhere else. But this I am
beginning to see a lot of interest in the fringe
in Indian War and in the Revolution. I'll be honest
with you, I'm I've never really much cared for early
colonial history. I'm like, yeah, well it's here. Okay, all right,
(46:18):
we get it, big mistake, But come on, big old Oopsy's.
Apologies to our British cousins, big old Oopsys, but no,
I appreciate you putting altogether great. Now, what is in
your so much like yourself?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I too, am watching more what I eat and also
what I drink. I'm still going to be the alcoholic
of the show. So what I have with me I
call the Summer red Coat. It is a little red.
But what it is it is actually zero sugar plan
apple juice with a splash of malibu. It tastes like
(47:02):
summer in a cup, and it also has about five calories,
so bobs up.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's delicious.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
It kind of tastes like Hawaiian punch, a little bit
like adult Hawaiian punch.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I mean that is there is any way to do it?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
How about yourself? You'll be upset with me I understand you. Sure, Yeah,
decaffeinated green tea wonderful? Wait did we did we bring
you know who on the show as well? Don't you
have him right next to you?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I have Monty right here.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, he's finally made his way back to home.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Brush. I don't know if we were I can't remember
if we were recording or not.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
There is any I thought at various points throughout the episode,
I should just like.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Speaking of him. That's so funny. I'm just pumping in.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I would say that this operation of mister Washington just
about ninety percent successful.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, m.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think I think this would be really fun to
just periodically keep in virtual actually, old please, Old please?
Oh there he is in bronze. You could just you
could use time on random rag?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Rag?
Speaker 5 (48:34):
Dad?
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Do I have? I got a whole bunch of stuff here,
let's see. Uh I did? I did find uh uh
Superman action.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Figures in preparation for the new film.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah. Uh, anyways, I did find some of our home. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
This whole camera blurred background thing is really just not living.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
That condu to show anything other than my mug, and.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I hate it.
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Yes, And before we sign off this evening, I would
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my appreciation with a lot of our viewers and our listeners.
As some of you may know, unfortunately me, one of
my cousins was in a terrible, terrible accident. He has
lost a leg and the good news is those that
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Updated with them.
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He is back home. He is doing much better, uh,
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and Tristan, we'll see you next time.
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Cheers, guys, whole crew.
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I got it on. I'm ready to go go ahead away.
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You know, I know that we're not old enough for
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I mean is a good thing, you know, considering why
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You know, I hope to not bring that back anytime.
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Come on, Let's see how many more we got here? Right,
this one didn't even it's I mean, try what else
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Oh yeah, there you go right there? Yeah, the old
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Welcome. I am a man of many hats, as I've
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Oh, actually, this is kind of cool. I don't know,
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other adult. But I have a one sixth scale doll
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You think, really when when I helped you move five times? Oh?
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I was thinking. I can't think of a time where
he made a debut on the show, although he has.
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This is the first time on the show, which.
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I mean, should he become like our mascot?
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He could?
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I mean, look, dude, I got there's so much stuff.
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There's a sewing machine in here. That's not mine.
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I may read I don't sew.
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I mean, this is not at all what the show
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I could be. I don't know. That doesn't really look
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That's Oh, that was good. I'm proud of you. I
don't say that often, and I haven't said it to
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To do.
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You know?
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I think we tease them now and at the very end,
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I mean, I don't know. I don't think I want
to let it slip. I think we're just gonna tease,
just tease, just getting to come back. All I'm saying is,
maybe maybe we're having a brief discussion about the most decisive,
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Maybe maybe maybe.
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to come back.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
All right, Well, let's do that. Uh, now we're gonna
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have to talk about George because it's true, what which
I think honestly, a George A George is he the the.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
He's actually as close as you're probably gonna get because.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He is a George w but he's not the George
that's second.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Uh, Orville not to be mistaken with Orville Red and Baker,
you know right, Yeah, no relations.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Oh guy, George, different George, different George at one fights
this this George, this George, but still not the George,
not the.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
George that that is, the young George Washington that we're
going to talk about to.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Uh, you know, it's funny and and you know you're
you're you're a fellow historian.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Uh you know, do your friends who are who are
non historians send you historically related memes?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, most of them don't know not to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's fair. I have some that still do, and some
of them they find as bangers. And one of them was, you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Know, George, George, young George Washington's was six foot two
and he ran like a four forty, you know he
was he was playing for the wrong Patriots.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The New England Patriots need help since Tom Brady's been gone.
We know that. Yeah, it's it's terrible. Uh, they need help.
But thank god I'm not with the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I I mean, your team's no better. You're a Cowboys fan, But.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
We all have our sins. We all have our vices.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What about the Steelers, since we're going to talk about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
What are they doing? They are hiring the old man.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He's basically dead.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
In my yeah, I'm you know, he's got the opportunity,
the funniest thing, the off to their money and tear
his other the other one.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Break it, just break the other one.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That poor man. You know what, I didn't realize that desperate.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Apparently apparently Nike needs another not Telean needs another championship
before the ah, well shall we? History first noticed George
Washington in seventeen fifty three, and a daring and resourceful
twenty one year old messenger sent on a dangerous mission
into the American wilderness. He carried a letter from the
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Governor of Virginia, Robert Dinwiddie, addressed to the commander of
French troops in that vast region of the Blue Ridge
Mountains and south of the Great Lakes that Virginians called
the Ohio Country. He was ordered to need a small
party over the Blue Ridge, then across the Allegheny Mountains,
there to rendezvous with an influential Indian chief called the
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Half King. He was then to proceed to the French
outpost at presque Isle now present day Erie, Pennsylvania, where
he would then deliver his message in the name of
his Britannic Majesty. The key passage in the letter that
he was carrying, so it turned out, represented the verbal
opening shot in what American colonists would call the French
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and Indian War. The lands upon the River Ohio and
the western parts of the Colony of Virginia are so
notoriously known to be the property of the Crown of
Great Britain that it is a matter of equal concern
and surprise to me to hear that a body of
French forces are erecting fortresses and making settlements upon that
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river within His Majesty's dominations. The world first became aware
of young Washington at this moment, and we get our
first extended to look at him. Because of Dinwiddie's urging.
He published an account of his adventures, the Journal of
Major George Washington, which appeared in several colonial newspapers and
was then reprinted in magazines in England and Scotland. Though
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he was only an emissary, the kind of valiant and
agile youth sent forward against odds to perform a hazardous mission.
Washington's journal provided readers with the first hand report on
the mountain ranges, wild rivers, and exotic indigenous peoples within
the interior regions that appeared on most European maps as
dark and vacant spaces. His report foreshadow the more magisterial
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account of the American West provided by Lewis and Clark
more than fifty years later. It also, if inadvertently, exposed
the somewhat ludicrous character of any claim by his Britannic Majesty,
or any European power for that matter, to control such
an expansive frontier that simply swallowed up and spit out
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the European presumptions of civilization. Oh, Joseph Ellis, in his excellency,
we'll help us follow the life of George Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But I mean that was eloquent. You could, now, I know,
especially with what we know you know about this whole event.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And what Joe is talking about is is a young
in Washington in the early days of the French and
Indian War, something that you know, he doesn't have the.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Hindsight, but luckily you know, we do.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So let's going to be the topic of discussion this
evening is how Washington gets entangled in all of this,
because really he's, you know, the one that that's sort
of commanding, you know, colonial militia forces that are really
going to start the whole fire, this whole situation. So
one of the things that's incredibly interesting is early on
in Washington's life, at around age sixteen or so, especially
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in the spring months of seventeen forty eight, He's actually
hired by Lord Thomas Fairfax, which Fairfax he is part
of the landed gentry there in Virginia, someone that Washington
hopes takes him under his way, someone who Washington definitely
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wants to take inspiration from. So Fairfax actually hires him
to survey some western lands in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Now, Joey, at age sixteen, what what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Not that?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Not that I am definitely not surveying the lands of
western Virginia at sixteen, I'm probably worried about acne. I'm
probably worried about getting my driver's license.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Never had that problem that really do anything, Yeah, I had.
I didn't wear hats apparently, like if you sweat and
you wear hats. No, I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
My sweat sitting down so that that doesn't bother me.
But I did wear hats, I played baseball, So yeah,
maybe you're on.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Something there, medical journals. What can you say?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What can you say?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You know, it is this experience in western Virginia that
will assist him later in life because in one of
the biggest problems too for a young Washington is, especially
in North America, the lands between the Thirteen Colonies and
New France. The borders between these two places is very
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clearly undefined, especially in the Ohio River Valley.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Here's where the problem was.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oftentimes both the French and the British will sign land
trees with a variety of different Native American tribes. The
problem is is that these treaties oftentimes contradicted each other.
And we know that any time that you know, especially
things like land treaties contradict one another, that can cause confusion,
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It can cause conflicts, and of course it can cause bloodshed.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And this is exactly what it's going to cause.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So Judy read just a little bit earlier from Ellis's
book that there was French presence in the Ohio River Valley.
In fact, around seventeen fifty three, there's a French aristocrat
by the name of the Marquis Became. He was the
one that sort of oversaw the development of French forts
and forces in the Ohio River valley. What the Marquis
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Became is trying to do. He is trying to establish
a connection between Lake Erie and that of the Algaming River.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
One of the more important forts that is under his
supervision is that of Fort lebuff And I guess kind
of reading into the early days of the French Indian
War for young George Washington.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I find it kind of funny that the French and
Indian War starts for him on the Halloween October thirty first,
seventeen fifty three.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Bad Time.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Gouls and goblins, Goblins and well, George Washington.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
In George and George, it's the three Gesus of the Apocalypse.
You know, it's a late night episode, right.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Ghoules, goblins and George, the three headed the three headed horsemen.
Oh lord, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's what I'd called ye late night with Washington.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
That sounds dirty, that sounds sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Sorry, guys, sorry, I'm not putting them on. I'm sorry, Martha,
I don't I don't mean anything. By it, Martha, you
just say that name. Oh lord.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Anyway, so George Washington does he gets in seventeen fifty three,
and all of a sudden he starts interacting with not
only Indian tribes and like local native people, but we
also runs into the French, which for the Englishmen technically
he is an Englishman. It's never a great thing.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I don't know, would you say it's it's really
the First World War that that kind of brings France
in Britain finally together.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know, I'm actually reading about that in Margaret McMillan's book.
Yeah yeah, but even then, like still not right. It's
not so much a rivalry. It's just like, yeah, you know,
we're all enemies. But I really don't like those Germans. Yeah,
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Germans at all.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I don't love you guys. I kind of like you love.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
But she actually makes a really good point. I was
reading it the other night. It effectively takes World War
two to get the British of the French on side,
and nineteen forty could have derailed that, yeah, very easily.
But like that was what kind of at least fosters that. Yeah,
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oh yeah, but for right now in George's day. They
all hate.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Symbols very much, so you know, but because Washington does
have uh the experience in land surveying out there in
western Virginia, and you mentioned him a little bit earlier,
which he still arguably holds the funniest colonial governor name,
and I think all over colonial American history is Governor
Robert Dinwitty.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I have yet to find a funnier name. But Dinwitty
actually selects Washington for this journey to the Ohio River
Valley to basically tell the French to kick rocks well
and to be fair to our listeners. Where did I
get the inspiration for this, Well, I'm actually teaching Colonial
America in the fall, so I actually picked up a
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new book called The War that Made America, a short
history of the french Man named War by Fred Anderson.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Also Fred Anderson, if you're listening to this, I know
two giants. The check your email.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I've sent you a lovely, lovely email to hopefully have
you all Fred And if you know, if you know
a Fred, but hopefully this freend, bring the Flintstones, bring
Fred from the Mystery Machine and Scooby Doo.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Either one I'll take I'll take that, Fred.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, well, Fred Anderson, he writes this, He says, why
the governor picked a twenty one year old major of
the Virginia Militia for this mission a man who spoke
no French, had little formal education, and an utterly lacked
diplomatic experience may not seem intuitively obvious. Young Washington, however,
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had several qualifications. He had the backing of the board, the
spare Bax, which we just talked about, who approved of
the work of Washington that he had done for him
as a surveyor. He had an intense ambition to prove
himself worthy of public trust and thus to rise in
the ranks of the planter gentry. And he had both
a willingness and I like this word that he uses,
and the heartihood to undertake a five hundred mile journey
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under miserable conditions in the late fall and winter of
the year seventeen fifty three. Yeah, you know, so he's
twenty one years old. You know, he's a major in
the Virginia Militia. And the governor comes up to him.
He's like, dude, look, if you travel like five hundred
miles that way, you're going to eventually run into some
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French shin when you get there, tell him the scidaddle
or swam or lay leave whatever. Oh, now here's a letter.
I put it more eloquently in this letter. Could you
deliver it to Washington's Like, Yeah, I'm twenty one years old.
My frontal cortex hasn't developed all the way yet. That's doe.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
All I know is daring to things and do as
it were. I mean, coming back real quick, just to
that that passage that Ellis included that the letter says,
the lands upon the River Ohio in the western plains
of the Colony of Virginia are so notoriously known to
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be the property of the Crown of Great Britain that
it is a matter of equal concern and surprise to
me to hear that a body of French forces are
erecting fortresses and making settlements upon that river within His
Majesty's dominions.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, it's it's almost like he's clutching his pearls. Yeah,
a Frenchman on all lands.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I mean, admittedly, if the French were on my land,
I would be upset to.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I mean I'm just saying that my people.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's for Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Maybe got kicked out of Canada for war.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, if we're on the French line, that we have
a problem. But this one's for Bill. Yeah, I'm here
to tell the French to leave.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm here to tell them to leave. That's what George
Washington is also tasked to do. So Washington good man,
good Man. So Washington does. He takes this five hundred
mile journey, and it is arguments he's got to deal
with all kinds of things, from you know, horrible weather
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to combative native tribes as well.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
By December of the same year, seventeen fifty three, Washington
is able to arrive at Fort Lebaux mostly unscathed. He
delivers Governor Dinwoodie's letter to the French commander of Fort Lebau,
a guy by the name of Captain Jacques Dave Saint Pierre,
which is again arguably one of the most French land ever.
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Pierre well two days later, which this is you know,
I don't know, the French kind of like have him
waited out.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But after two days of discussion, obviously I think.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The French take this as sort of a humorous thing, uh,
And they take two days they come up.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
With their response, which is essentially, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
We're already here, you know, We've already built Fort Lebove
in the Ohio River Valley. It's just it's not we're
not We're not going anywhere. These are lands claimed by
the French monarch. You know, only he can tell us otherwise. So, yeah,
exactly that one exactly to you know, exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I think it's in Shakespeare. I think Shakespeare says I
am I bite my thumb.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean do you think the French. Do
you think the French you are even at all threatened
by this this guy in a band of Virginia militiaman
or do you think they're they're just like, okay, one
of the strongest empires in the world is here and
is making its claim to this land. Will you will
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you please?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think it's happened, you know, and especially because they're like, well,
we're here first, clearly, we've established before, therefore it is
our land.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
And some you know, royal governor in the Colony of
Virginia is trying to scare us off with a letter.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh you know, it's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So Washington effectively has an answer which, as the Spanish
say no, as the English say also no. By January
of the following year, seventeen fifty four, so just about
a month, about a month and a week later, Washington
is able to return to Williamsburg, Virginia, where he gives
Governor Dinwiddi the you know, French response, which is effectively no.
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Well for Washington's efforts on this arduous five hundred mile journey,
he has actually promoted in the Virginia Militia to the
lieutenant colonel in the spring of seventeen fifty four. And
you mentioned earlier Washington's journal, right, So Washington's journal, like
Ellis said, gives us a very right.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I have to put this up here. I must. You
know I was a god once.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Keep this one corked up for whatever I talk about
the Virginia colonies.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Oh my god, I love that. Perfect said that to me.
I think I just found a new slide in my
Colonial America class. But only there, Yeah, only only there, God,
I love it. I love that.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
For the listener who doesn't get to see YouTube, we'll
go to YouTube and subscribed and fulldle along for the fun.
But it's uh yeah, it's a map of Virginia as
Virginian's side in sixteen ninety two, and then again by
seventeen seventy six, and then again by seventeen ninety two,
and then by eighteen sixty three where the state of
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Virginia has now been for It's just great. And the captures.
You know, I was god once, but it.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Was it's like, okay, Grandpa, time for bed.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Are you sure did you take your medmens?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know, so Washington's journal it does provide us a
very unique perspective, especially you know, it gives us a
glimpse into a lot of things, especially from tier diplomacy.
But this expedition to Fort Leboff is absolutely crucial development
of a young Washington because what he learns something incredibly important.
He really learns the complexites of not only leadership. Oh
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oh sorry, I don't know where I went. It was
just like, oh, hey, you know he's too ugly, let's
go ahead and cut him off. My god, yeah, Jesus. Anyway,
this is absolutely crucial to Washington because he does learn
the complexities of leadership and political allegiances, especially between French
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and other native tribes in the English and also other
native tribes a well.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Well Washington he does.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
During this expedition, Washington actually met up with the Shawnee
and the Seneca native tribes which sometimes the Seneca are
known as the Mingos, and Washington hope to kind of
form a British alliance with these with these native tribes.
But more importantly, Washington actually meets with a Mingo or
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the Seneca chief and you mentioned him a little bit earlier,
the half King, a guy by the name of Chief
Town of Charleston. Well, Charleson was eager to kind of
forge in an Anglo Native alliance because he with that
sort of brought to the Seneca tribe. Well, the sort
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of new Anglo Native alliance, if you will. Between really
the Virginia militia and the Mingos tribe really have their
first glimpse of what it means to be partners in
the you know, colonial frontier, if you will. On the
twenty eighth and May seventeen fifty four, the now Lieutenant
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Colonel George Washington and Chief Tannah Charleson all that a
raiding party of about forty men or so against the
French soldiers and what is now modern day Pennsylvania. Well,
this raid kills about ten frenchmen. It also results in
the capture of another twenty one. Washington had no idea
that this raid would absolutely set.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
The world on fire.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And this attack represents the first bloodshed of what we now.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Know as the French and Indian War.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And I know they say that, you know, hindsight's always
twenty twenty, but it is here. You know, Washington has
no idea that what he's about to experience in this
raid is going to culminate in almost a decade's long
conflict here in North America. Well, this raid included Virginia militiaman.
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It also included Native warriors under the command of Chief
Tana Charleson. By Washington's own account, upon seeing the Virginians
advancing on their position, the French grabbed their weapons, obviously
for their own defense, forcing Washington's men to open fire,
thus killing around ten men and leading to the capture
of another twenty one. After about fifteen minutes or so,
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the fighting, this still skirmish kind of comes to an
end and the French surrender the Washington. Now here's the problem, though,
is that the details of this skirmish are a bit hazy.
It's one of those he said, he said stories. The
French claim they had no they had no clue about
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Washington's men until the very first bombing, whereas they also
claimed that Washington's men were executing some of the wounded
frenchmen after this skirmish had taken place. But in Washington's journal,
Washington writes and he states that it was Tanna Charleson's
men that are executing the French, and they are scalping
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these French dead as sort of war trophies to prove
to their native allies as well, because they're allied with
other native tribes as well, that war has begun here
and this is sort of the rallying crime, if you will.
And all of this sort of just happens so quickly
and so rapidly. The French claim that the men that
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were attacked here in western Pennsylvania, these men were ambassadors
under the command of a man by the name of
Joseph Jamonville is actually one of the ten that's actually
killed in the skirmish, and the skirmish becomes known as
the Jamanville Glenn skirmish, or sometimes just simply put Uh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You're killing with your your you're mister Frenchman and butcher also.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
My most fash. I mean I can that I'm more
German than anything.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, you don't get to do this as a bomb
thing anymore. I'm taking out. No, that's that's Cajun. That's
not French revoked. Yeah. Yeah, Cajun and French are two
totally different things. Your your your French speaking past is revoked.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, only only the French people could do that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The other day, I was at work and there were
thirty a group of thirty eight frenchmen that came in
and no one could speak to them. And I walked
out and I was like, okay, I'm I'm confident that
I'm just rusky enough to piss them off.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And were you.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I was competent. I was competent. They just thanked me
and said sebon in the see and then walked on.
But I I stumbled us through. Hey, here's a map.
Let me know if you have any questions, so hey
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that you know, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I'll think.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But at this point, right now, as we stand scorekeeping,
I'm better at French than you are.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I will make no claims of being.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Hey, check outline page three. What's this word? I got
you home?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I got you I know I know how to get
to a library or a bathroom in Spanish. And that's
really the only two places like I think I need
to be.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, a hell of a shame if you you mix
those up. Wait, no, I need the.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Bath Oh gosh, Oh my god. I wish I was
better at languages, but I'm I wish.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I had the patience for it. Yeah, I can barely
speak English. So I put a microphone in front of
me and said, talk monkey, and so here I am.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Here, we are, uh what our opinions are worth?
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Well not a Koch McDonald's. So take that what you will. Okay,
you said McDonald's. I got to tell you something. I
gotta say something, you know. You know, I've been taking
my health very seriously, and I've been watching my way
and watching doing doing good, and I like to say,
you know, and then well, I just wanted to see
because we keep seeing, you know, chicktoks and such for
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it ads. I tried the new mccrispy's Krispy's trips funds
crap they were there was just bad. I think that
was good about it was the the creamy chili sauce.
Like that's the only thing that gave it any flavor.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Like, I've never had a more flavorless chicken tender than
that one. And like, look, I like raisin canes for
the nostalgia of raisin canes. I would admit to you
that that chicken doesn't taste like anything without sauce. I
would take that one thousand Canes chicken tenders over one
of those McDonald's chicken strips to never have to eat
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it again. Ye do, Now, let me put John something
that creamy chili sauce on a raisin Canes chicken finger,
or that creamy chili sauce on a Chick fil a
chicken finger? Slaps.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
It was you and I had made a Cane's pizza
that one time, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yes, we've done that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I remember that.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
That was a good, very fat thing to do.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
That was very bad thing to do.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And we are big back and we will always be there.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yep, my back's aout as big as a football field.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm shrinking. My back is shrinking much smaller than it
once was.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Mine is about the same size, but it's a bit
muscular a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You know, there's some horse sap listening to this that
was like I tuned in for Washington.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I did.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, where's the many adventures of George buried somewhere in
all the asides and digressions.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's true, but we promised to always bring it back.
So after after that's that's a long wooded way of
coming back.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I bet he would have wished for some of these
trick and tenders during the windre at Valley Forage. Bam,
there we go.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Earlier.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, but thirty years earlier, prior to all that, and
so after that, this is seemingly insignificant Scarmish is at
the time. About a month later, really, in the beginning
of the summer June seventeen fifty four, washington Is men
they travel further into western Pennsylvania to actually a supply stocking.
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Washington his men knew that they would eventually face a
French force that was going to be sent after them
following this affair that.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Had just happened in Monk Prior.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Washington his men build a fort of necessity, as he
calls it, which is what they.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Call it Fort Necessity. But yes, what we call it.
Oh he doesn't want to.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Go away, Oh he wants to stay on here. There
it is there, It is so Washington's man.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
They retreat to western Pennsylvania in this area called the
Great Meadows. It's a really cool map that Joey brought
up here right there at Fort Necessity. It's not too
far from Fort to King Well. As they make this
Fort Necessity, which is the bare bones of what I mean.
Calling it a fort is a bit of a point.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
You do not want to call for it ducuine Fort Duquesne.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I can, I can, And there's Fort Leff And.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yes, I hear that is a picture.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
But I mean that's quite literally as bare minimum as
one can get, right, I.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Just a big circlus sticks man, yep, I could do
this with Lincoln Lugs, coffee Stars, model builders. Let's see
your best fort.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Easiest one out there.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
It's like the uh fort building fort model building for beginners.
We need sell that on like whenever, if, and whenever
we do get a website to put how.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
About just a big ziploc bag of broken star I'm
not even gonna buy coffee stirs.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Who's go in the woods behind the house and grab
a bunch of twigs right there, my guy.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And then we send him a picture of what Fort
Necessity looked like. In this picture, they don't feel like
they've been ripped off. Well.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Washington has under his command about two hundred and ninety
three militiamen, but he's actually reinforced a little bit later
about by about one hundred British regulars by Captain James McKay,
making things making things a little awkward though. The French
force that's actually sent out to meet Washington in western Pennsylvania,
(40:41):
there's about six hundred of them, and there's also, you know,
a couple of hundred it's a little bit less than
that Native Americans as well. They're allied with the French.
But the commander or the commander of these six hundred frenchmen,
they are actually taking commands from the Jamonville's half brother,
(41:03):
a guy by the name of Louis de Villiers. And
I mean, I can't imagine how awkward that would be.
You know, the half brother of someone I just gunned
down about a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
He's probably going to be very vengeful, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So he's got under his command about six hundred frenchmen
and the French begin their attack on Fort Necessity on
July third, seventeen fifty four. The battle doesn't last long
at all. It's actually over in less than twenty four hours.
It's actually over in less than and you know it's
a little bit no, it's a little bit under twelve.
(41:44):
It's still ten hours. I just did quick math. Wow,
ten hours. The battle takes place over Fort Necessity. The
battle begins at eleven am, and Washington accepts the French
terms of surrender by eight pm.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
The same day.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
The question is what exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Are the French demands for Washington and his minute force necessity.
They're summed up fairly shortly. There's a lot more than
just this, but the three big ones, the three big
takeaways from these, you know, sort of terms of surrendered
by the French. First of all, leave your swivel canons,
take everything else we want those Those are cool, okay, leave.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Your sivel can use those, We can use those.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Secondly, this is ours name, this is mine's now. For
necessity is ours. The sticks in the ground, yeah, leave that,
that's ours now. And lastly, Washington actually has to agree
on signing off on a quote unquote apology for quote
(42:50):
unquote assassinating. Uh Billier's have brothers, Jamon bill Now this
is and we kind of save, you know, boo Hicky
for last, but you know this is sort of the
kind of the interesting boohicky behind it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Shall we call this the boo hickey? This is gonna
be boo hickey. Let's make this boo hickey.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Because thank you Washington. Years later after what occurs at
Fort Necessity.
Speaker 7 (43:26):
Washington realizes later that he signed off on an apology
taking full responsibility for that word they're assassinating, for assassinating Jamonville.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
And Washington's like, I didn't do that. I didn't assassinate anybody,
you know, And if I'd have known that, right, but
I've known that. I've never signed off on this apology
at all, because I can't take responsibility for something I
didn't do. Washington's translator, This is interesting. Washington's translator at
(44:03):
Fort Necessity was a dutch Man by the name of
Jacob von Brahm. Jacob whose native tongue, whose native language
was neither French nor English, mistranslated the word assassination.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Washington argued after the fact that he would.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Have never signed off on anything that blamed him for
assassinating anybody. But here we are, and what ensues after
all of this is the beginning of a conflict that
will strain the relationship between mother country, Great Britain and
her thirteen colonies in North America.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
And hear what we start to hear. We start to
hear very quietly, very silently. We are starting to hear
the drums of revolution begin here.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
In one of these days, one of these days, he
gets to do that.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
He gets to do that.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Almost two hundred and fifty years later. I get to say,
I'm really sorry, Will you take us back?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, you try again.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Yeah, you'll be too late for gives you back seas
soon you'll see Yeah, we see it, we see it. Wow, God,
please stop him before he starts singing yeah, please Jesus. Well,
so it makes us back around. And I've got to
(45:35):
say that was fantastic. Yeah, I can't remember if we
said it in this or in the botched version of
this recording that we did a week ago, and then
we had to stop halfway through. But like, this is
a chapter of history that we don't normally get to
on Homebrew, because you know, we kind of follow our
(45:58):
own little rabbit holes everywhere else. But this I am
beginning to see a lot of interest in the fringe
in Indian War and in the Revolution. I'll be honest
with you, I'm I've never really much cared for early
colonial history. I'm like, yeah, well it's here. Okay, all right,
(46:18):
we get it, big mistake, But come on, big old Oopsy's.
Apologies to our British cousins, big old Oopsys, but no,
I appreciate you putting altogether great. Now, what is in
your so much like yourself?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I too, am watching more what I eat and also
what I drink. I'm still going to be the alcoholic
of the show. So what I have with me I
call the Summer red Coat. It is a little red.
But what it is it is actually zero sugar plan
apple juice with a splash of malibu. It tastes like
(47:02):
summer in a cup, and it also has about five calories,
so bobs up.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's delicious.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
It kind of tastes like Hawaiian punch, a little bit
like adult Hawaiian punch.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I mean that is there is any way to do it?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
How about yourself? You'll be upset with me I understand you. Sure, Yeah,
decaffeinated green tea wonderful? Wait did we did we bring
you know who on the show as well? Don't you
have him right next to you?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I have Monty right here.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, he's finally made his way back to home.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Brush. I don't know if we were I can't remember
if we were recording or not.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
There is any I thought at various points throughout the episode,
I should just like.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Speaking of him. That's so funny. I'm just pumping in.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I would say that this operation of mister Washington just
about ninety percent successful.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, m.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think I think this would be really fun to
just periodically keep in virtual actually, old please, Old please?
Oh there he is in bronze. You could just you
could use time on random rag?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Rag?
Speaker 5 (48:34):
Dad?
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Do I have? I got a whole bunch of stuff here,
let's see. Uh I did? I did find uh uh
Superman action.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Figures in preparation for the new film.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah. Uh, anyways, I did find some of our home. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
This whole camera blurred background thing is really just not living.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
That condu to show anything other than my mug, and.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
I hate it.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
As always a blast, remember go join us on the
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all of our designs are done by the Bearded Historian,
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Speaker 2 (49:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
If you or someone you know wants to get involved
with Humber History or help us out in any way,
you just fire off an email to us and we'll
be happy to hear from you. And you can check
us out weekly on all the places where you get
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and uh, yeah, you know, really I kind of feel
like that that sort of covers all of our bases.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yes, And before we sign off this evening, I would
like to take just a brief second to really share
my appreciation with a lot of our viewers and our listeners.
As some of you may know, unfortunately me, one of
my cousins was in a terrible, terrible accident. He has
lost a leg and the good news is those that
(50:12):
he is back home, he is stable, but he also
has a long way to go starting a whole brand
new life. But I had several listeners who reached out
to me personally to you know, share their thoughts, prayers
and good good things for him, and a lot of
people have asked me to keep them.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Updated with them.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
So thank you guys and gals for asking about Tristan.
He is back home. He is doing much better, uh,
and I really appreciate it. Guys, love you Tristan.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
All right, everybody, here's the thing, here's to you, and
here's the bow, and here's the ge Washington, you know,
and Tristan, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
Cheers, guys, whole crew.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
NAT, whole crew talking about Hole crew. Everybody gets ho
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