Elon Turns the Lights On at X, Hussey Smollett Caught in a Hoax | HBR News 528

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is HBr News Number five twenty eight. Elon turns
the lights on at x Hussy Smollette Caught in a
Hope where we discuss the news of the week and
give it the bad retreatment. Hello everybody, and welcome to
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and that you're laughing at all of this absurdity so

(00:24):
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I'm joined by, as always, my lovely co host Hannah
Wallen and doctor randamercam Hello.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Two thousand and nine, United Kingdom. Two name changes?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
What oh Twitter?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh information again?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Uh yeah, I'm sorry, I totally dropped the ball on that.
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(01:08):
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with all of that said, we're gonna get into today's stories.

(03:55):
So first up, there was a cartoon that I saw online.
I can find it right now, but it was very funny.
I think it's SDK Cartoons, but I'm not sure that
is the name of the artist about this, but I'll
just have to display Elon Musk for now. So after
a Twitter slash x developer alluded that an update in

(04:17):
the near future would show the country of origin for
all Twitter slash x accounts, were still undecided whether or
not we're going to call it extra Twitter, the upside
finally dropped or the update finally dropped as promised. The
update allowed all to see where an account originated from,
and one thing became shockingly clear. Many accounts turned out

(04:41):
to be Indians masquerading as anything other than Indians. Pro
conservative accounts, pro Democrat accounts, accounts claiming to belong to
the IDF, and even accounts connected to the Manisphere were
shown to be operated by Indians or similar foreign influences.
Nikita Pierre, Twitter's x head of product reports that after

(05:03):
the update, this location information is ninety nine percent accurate,
and some of these accounts have tens or even hundreds
of thousands of followers, leading some to suspect that they
exist to engagement farm and help funnel money to their
foreign operators. Because remember when Elon Musk made it to
where Twitter could be monetized, which means if your posts

(05:25):
get enough engagement, you could make a little money, and
that means that there were definitely like opportunities that were
being seized by some people who were basically engagement farming.
But anyway, so so yeah, so some of these accounts
have tens or even one hundreds of thousand of followers,
leading some to suspect that they exist to engagement farm

(05:47):
and help funnel money to their foreign operators. Darren Linnell
of Clemson University, who specializes in media forensics, states, quote,
there are accounts that are run by troll farms that
are run by nation states, and then there are accounts
that are just trying to make a buck by pretending
to be American. There's always some money to be made
from fanning America's culture wars on social media. He also

(06:09):
predicts that their exposure will do little to stop them,
stating quote, bad actors will very likely quickly adapt. They
can round it by VPN. They'll adopt the way that
they're creating their accounts, so it appears they created their
account in the West or in the United States end quote.
Earlier this year, it was estimated that over four hundred
million Indians use VPNs, making India the number one country

(06:31):
and VPN adoption dwarfing China's VPN usage, which is about
three hundred and twenty million, so more than China, and
I wanted to add too. So if you're on X
and you happen to cost any manisphere people posting just
like how you usually a red flag as whether or
not it's a it's a you know, engagement farming account

(06:52):
is that it's got like a hyper masculine character and
it's like super like over the top high testoss rowe posting.
Be aware it's posing, but it's t posting. It's it's
testosterone posting. That's usually how you know it's fake because
like we all know the people on earth are the
Indian men anyway.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's also there's there's another issue. There are dating coaches
and pick up artists which are the same as day
dating coaches that yeah, they stole the red pill meme
from the red pill subreddit, which was actually more of

(07:36):
a conservative m r A subreddit, and uh they they
pretty much will claim to be the real m r as.
Then also, don't assume that somebody is not a real
m r A just because their account is based in India,
because uh, Save Indian FA Family Foundation is a men's

(07:56):
rights activist group in India that exists because India's domestic
violence law is worse than a domestic violence laws in
every western country. Feminism hit India like a dirty bomb,
and it is just it's to the point where if

(08:18):
a woman files against her husband under this law, she
can file against his whole family. And there have been
instances where infants who could not possibly have harassed anyone
for any reason are are put in jail for a
short period of time because they're named or because they're

(08:40):
with a woman who was named in the filing. So
just because something somebody is from India doesn't mean they're
not an MRA, but you do definitely need to watch
out for like the hyper the guys that respond to
feminists anti ruggedness crusade by acting as though ruggedness is

(09:05):
the only way to be a man.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Sure, yeah, you know somehow. We always knew that the
dead Internet theory was inevitable, but we knew it would
happen gradually. One day there will be more bots than
human beings, if it hasn't happened already. But before that,
it was predictable enough that there would be more scammers

(09:32):
than sincere human beings one way or another. And if
you know anything about scammers, you could have easily predicted
where they would come from. India and Nigeria. Yes, but
you can trace this evolution through other graphs like India
has Bollywood, Nigeria has Nollywood, and these industries are both

(09:56):
modeled after Hollywood, which itself has been using it's fictitious
siren songs to lure people onto the rocks for over
a century now, as they convolutedly play the role of
important political pioneers when all they were ever doing was

(10:16):
following whatever trend will make them a buck or two.
And in a way, you've got to respect the hustle.
As they say, don't work hard, work smart. Why break
your back going to a shitty job every day when
you can just sit in front of a computer and
fill some kind of narrative niche believe me, I'm not judging.

(10:38):
Bless this world for giving us this opportunity to be honest.
As long as they're not doing the do not redeem thing,
As long as they're not cold calling all these technophobic
boomers and lying to them in person and terrifying them
into sending them thousands of dollars, that's at least a

(11:00):
step in the right direction. The fuckers who do that
should be strung the fuck up. Are not necessarily hanged
or thrown into the woodchipper, just you know, strung up
by their feet above the wood chipper, perhaps with a
flimsy rope. But yeah, they you know, they deserve severe punishment.

(11:21):
They deserve to feel the terror through which they put
innocent people. It's not just the digital equivalent of putting
your hand in the till or pickpocketing someone. It's the
digital equivalent of armed robbery. It's as close as you
can get to it using a computer from six thousand
miles away. So I'm glad that some of them have

(11:44):
found a grift that's a lot less egregious than that shit.
If you just want to pretend to be American to
appeal to an American audience, that's, I mean, not quite fine,
but it's pretty close to fine. If you're advocating for
America First policies and you're criticizing the enemies of such policies,

(12:08):
well the fuck is the problem. I do that too,
and Americans send me money for my efforts, knowing full
well that I'm not American. I mean, it is different
on Twitter because you can hide your face and your accent.
But where the hell did Twitter accounts get their money?

(12:28):
Next to nobody pays people on Patreon or PayPal just
for their tweets. I mean, I'm sure there are shown some, surely,
but for the most part, they make their money from
Twitter itself through engagement and only if they're really popular,
and in order to get really proper they have to
fight the good fight really hard on behalf of America.

(12:50):
They only take these jobs from Americans if they do
those jobs better than Americans, and they don't need h
one beans to do it. I mean, for Fox, say,
they're fighting in your corner and they're doing it without
occupying your streets and shitting in the mailboxes and sexually
harassing the teenagers. And as that's a win win, isn't it.

(13:12):
And as for the manisphere types, the Indians getting in
on the red pil scene and whatnot, well, yeah, Indians
do that too. Like Hannah explained just now, there's a
pretty prominent men's rights movement in India because they have
an out of control feminist problem, just like we have

(13:33):
over here. So they go online and they give their
advice to men on how to deal with the whole debacle,
just like we do. A lot of them we just
assumed to be English or American because they're communicating in English.
But they speak English, like two hundred million of them.
It's one of the official languages of India. So a

(13:56):
lot of them aren't even pretending to be of the
Anglish sphere. Then, even if they are, again, what's the problem.
They're on our side. They're talking sense, at least they're
talking as much sense as we do. They they have
just as many over the top cringe lords as we
have in our in our own homegrown red pill community.

(14:20):
It's it's like the meme, the haha, the jokes on you.
I was just pretending to be retarded. It's ha ha,
the jokes on you. I was just pretending to criticize feminism.
I was just pretending to give a shit about men
for money. Okay, Well that's the that's the damn sight

(14:41):
better than the people who pretend to give a shit
about women for money. They're called feminists. They're doing it.
They're doing it in our education system and our mass media,
and our police forces and our fucking armed forces. Of
this one, they are the ones destroying our civilization. Thank
you very much much for joining us in the fight

(15:02):
against them. Here have some fucking money from my own pocket.
We're already forced to pay feminists with our taxes. We
might as well pay you to offset that shit in
whatever way you can. And if all you're doing is
getting engagement money from Twitter, from the engagement you pull in,

(15:26):
once again, that's a win win. We're getting this service
for free, especially if we're not paying Twitter eight dollars
a month, which I'm not. I'm just saying a lot
of people are overreacting with this as though being on
Twitter and not being American is a gotcha by itself. Yeah, no,

(15:47):
some of us never pretended to be American. We just
believe it or not. We don't hate your country. We're
actually we're quite fond of Americans, and we want you
to put yourselves first. Some of us think every nation
should put themselves first, because there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

(16:08):
Of course, if there are accounts saying shit like, dear
fellow white people, we all need to shut the fuck
up and listen to non white people and they turn
out to be non white's, that's a very different sorry,
that's literally a syop. Like if there are people saying,

(16:29):
how do you do, fellow Americans, that we need to
support Israel and they turn out to be Israeli, by
all means, nail that shit to the wall. That's the
way you should be focusing your eye. Just as an example.
And conversely, if like me, you frequently criticize Jews, and

(16:51):
you've frequently criticized Muslims, yet you get some muling dickhead
nagging at you as though you never criticize the Jews,
you now have an extra avenue to be able to
say nice. Try mohammered, I see you. I'm gonna keep
doing what I'm doing, and you're not going to tilt
the ratio. You're all getting the same amount of bacon

(17:13):
thrown at you. So help meet God. And one more thing.
In closing, this revelation is also an excellent development because
it means young impulsive men on our side are a
lot less likely to get catfished by fat grifters in
the West pretending to be helpless desert girls in Qatar

(17:37):
or whatever. It could spare us a lot of hassle,
might have even saved a few friendships over the years.
But whatever, if you fail the naivety test, you get
what you fucking deserve. I hope one day you can
prove yourself redeemable when you crawl with your tail between

(17:58):
your legs back to those of us who have proved
ourselves to be real people. There will be vanishingly few
of us as time marches on and the Internet becomes
a graveyard of AI zombies.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Best of luck, everyone, Did y'all see that the Homeland
Security account came up as Israel Israel?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I saw that. But then, like the woman who originally
the woman who originally like called it. Nikita Bierre, Yeah,
she said that that is incorrect. She corrected that record
and that it's always been American. Let me see if
I can find.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
The Yeah, and I'm sure were being told that, but
it did originally show.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I know, I heard that. I heard that. I'm not
saying I'm just.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Saying that, I'm saying, yeah, it was. It's possible that
it was started by somebody that that was in Israel
at the time. Yeah, it is actually because.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, so apparently there's a division.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Only in security that actually does things in Israel, and
our cybersecurity guys are involved in that. And I can
just see some dumbass like higher up going, You're you're
like a nerdy, geeky guy, why don't you start the
Twitter account? Yeah, but but it was kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, So Nikita Bierre said that location, she said, this
is fake news. Location is not available on any gray
check account at any point, so I guess there are
gray checks the government, but said furthermore, the DHS has
only shown ips in the United States since account creation.

(19:57):
That's I don't mean know that she that's that's what
she said about it. So maybe she's lying, but she's
the one who originally broke the story as well, or
at least like talked about this, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, she may have been intimidated into taking it back, but.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
It still Yeah, so there was actually a video. So
here's okay, So let me explain what happened. I'm want
to show you guys. So this is an account by
I Hypocrite, and you know, he's all about the Jews,
like he's he loves talking about them, so he was
ready to jump on this, and he said the official
DHS account was revealed to have been created in Israel.
I saw screenshot of this, and I assume it as

(20:37):
a joke, but apparently it's real and confirmed by Grock.
The geolocating features were disabled shortly after going live, and
he has like a video I'm gonna not play any
of the audio of them like clicking on it, so
you can see it right here. And then so we
saw that and then here he said, it's also worth
noting that it was revealed to be operating out of

(20:57):
Israel as well, and then he saw Keita Beer's response
and says, Nikita Beer says it's fake news. I've also
seen a video from someone demonstrating how to fake. It
looks like I got tricked. Sorry everyone, Steve verrkle dot jpeg.
So it' all I'm saying is is that it's looking

(21:18):
like it's fake. So let's not you know, get too excited.
John Doe, if you're watching, don't get too excited because
we don't know this for sure. Okay, just chill out,
and I'd rather like, you know, err on the side
of if the person who was originally completely in support

(21:41):
of all these things being revealed then says, well, no, no,
that's not true. I'm inclined to agree. Now if something changes,
it changes. And look, the Department of Homeland Security probably
has you know, it likely has connections with all kinds
of other countries, so it wouldn't even be that crazy

(22:01):
if it was true.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
It did show. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like,
if they're scrambling to like deny it, it kind of
that actually makes it worse for me because several government
departments have activity in other countries. It's not just that one.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
So I hear you anyway, So, uh, the other the
only thing, the other thing I was going to say
about it is I think it's a good thing to
have this kind of transparency, uh, the only thing that
so loog overall. I think it's good that we can
see this. I actually meant to look to see if
I'm properly represented, like I know my account should be.

(22:43):
I have a blue check. Yeah, Virginia, USA, so yeah,
so my mine is right, So maybe check your see
if there's an error, because I don't know how precise.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Mine doesn't show my state like I I'm give a
blue check, or at least it didn't when I looked before,
but it didn't show my state, but it shows that
I'm from the US. I was very disappointed actually when
that I discovered as I was going through and looking
at you know, some of the people that I interact

(23:11):
with the most, that it's not all Ohio. Everything is
not Ohio. I was. I was misinformed by the meme
lords that it's all Ohio and it always has been,
and apparently there are places that are not Ohio. I'm upset.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Like I said at the top of the show, I'm
pure as the driven snow. I'm the United Kingdom. United
Kingdom have been that way since two thousand and nine,
which I think is before Elon. Maybe I've been here
for more than most people, and I've never been suspended
or fucking expelled despite all the match I've said. I've

(23:56):
been here with the same fucking account for six same.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I've been with that my account. I think I started
my account in two thousand and nine, around the same
time I had my first Reddit account, maybe a little
bit too earlier. But yeah, I've never been like suspended, suspended,

(24:22):
but I've been locked a few times.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, anyway, So yeah, that The only thing I guess
I would have like some concerns with is that, like
I guess I just prefer authenticity over people just trying
to sort of like take advantage of these things, even
because it's it's not they're not just posting like pro

(24:45):
America and like pro men's right stuff. They're like do
They're like playing both sides, so you're getting like, you know,
it's almost like a lot of the fighting online might
just be noise created by engagement farmers. And then there
are people with real accounts in real places that are
also engaging in engagement farming, like Ian Miles Chong, Tim Poole.

(25:07):
You know, they they that guy with the that Korean
guy with the really or is he Korean. I think
with the super high i Q, he's always like, I
am the highest IQ in the world, and he makes
pos all the time, starting with I am the highest IQ,
you know, or that girl who's a paleontologist with an OnlyFans,
Like it's just kind of like it just crowds the

(25:29):
feed with garbage, and I guess that's my only issue
And it's kind of just a nitpick more than I think,
because that's like complaining that the sky is blue, you know.
But yeah, otherwise, like I'm glad that we have this transparency.
So all right, the highest IQ Korean grift. Yeah, and
he still says it. He still says it even though

(25:51):
I think he's been debunked.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
But anyway, measuring The tough thing about measuring i Q
is the that when you take an IQ test, there
are factors that don't have anything to do with how
intelligent you are that influence it. Yeah, like my best
score on an IQ test versus my worst score on

(26:16):
an IQ test like makes me wonder. We'll just we'll
just say that my best score on an IQ test
I could have gone to Harvard or Yale and wowed everybody.
My worst score on an IQ test. It could have
been institutionalized for it just but but it was, you know,

(26:37):
I was having an incredibly bad day and couldn't couldn't
focus at all on the test, and therefore it came
out really bad. But I mean, peoples can very, you know,
quite significantly based on things like that, so it is
kind of hard to compare. It doesn't mean that somebody

(27:00):
that's had a high IQ test score doesn't have a
high IQ, but it does make it difficult to compare
your score to other people and say I'm smarter than you. No,
I'm smarter than you because you don't know that. You
don't know how they were doing the day they took
the test.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
But if you score really low on the IQ test,
then they won't convict you for your violent crimes. They'll
just so go, oh, yeah, you're too stupid to face trial,
so go off and live your life on the streets.
When you answer these IQ tests, you can say whatever
the fuck you like, I have no idea how to

(27:36):
rotate a shape in my mind?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
What is.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Stupid way to fucking run things? Don't it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I guess if if I ever get falsely accused of
a violent crime, that's what I'll do. I'll just be
retarded for a day.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah. Uh, all right, So I got some super childs
and I'm gonna move it, move on to the next thing.
So Richard Bierre gives us five dollars, Thank you, Richard,
and he says, imagine what India would look like if
there was as much effort put towards installing toilets and
sewage systems as is put into scamming an online impersonation.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I think it best. By the way, I don't want
to say we. I don't want to say we because
I'm not the British Empire. But the British Empire did
its best to fucking civilize those people, just saying they
kicked us out after a few decades and we're like, no,
fuck you, I'll find fine, do as you will. India

(28:34):
fucking create Pakistan and Bangalesh while you're at it. Jesus
I was.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I was gonna say. I thought there because like you know,
like we we have Indian MRAs that come to icmis
and stuff, and I think that it's it's a I
think it's a cultural thing because they have a cast system,
and I think what we see is usually the people
of the lower caste. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
I don't pretend to be an expert at all. I

(29:02):
do think it's like a stars contrast, you know, knowing them,
seeing them in person, and even having some friends, and
then like the people that are like over there off
the boat, you know, So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
The people that are the people that are trying to
escape any given country are going to be the ones
that are the most downtrodden there. And then the people
that network between other countries for any purpose like business
or activism and stuff like that to take information back

(29:37):
to their country are usually the ones that are hard working,
you know, not necessarily because I don't like to think
of people as good people and bad people, but people
with a better work ethic and a better sense of
responsibility for their communities. And so what we see in

(29:58):
their Men's Rights Movement when we work with MRAs from
other countries are almost always the latter. They're almost always
people that are attempting to do work for their communities
and their nations. So they're almost always people who are

(30:18):
a higher caliber of individual. Whereas when you see the
people that like immigrate illegally or people who try to
make themselves out to be refugees. You get a mixed bag.
Some people are that high caliber that are just unable
to have success in their country, but you also get

(30:41):
the people that have gotten themselves into trouble in their
country and need to get out, and so that's why
you end up with that mess.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, all right, Nova Fan gives us a rumble ran
for a dollar and says, but Brian, the government lied
to me once, and now I need to assume everything
else they say is a lie, including the govern claim
that the Earth is round. Yes, they actually use that
on me. That's what a lot of flat earth is believe.
The government is lying to us about the Earth. So
that's that's how you get there. I guess.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Well, no, they're not lying about it being being round,
but they are lying about several things in regard to
the Earth. No, but they are lying about the reasons
behind climate change, for instance.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, I've never.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I've never. I don't recall the government ever telling me
that the Earth is round. That doesn't seem to be
one of their concerns. It's not. It's not like you said.
They do keep telling me that if we give them money,
they will change the weather.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, yeap, which you know that they they already do
cloud seating, and they're already putting chemicals in the air.
Not not to say that I necessarily know anything about
kim trails or like, there's a lot of other ways
that they're putting chemicals into the air. But even the

(32:04):
stuff that you know we're doing commerce wise, global warming
and global cooling are things that occur naturally over and
over again and have done so throughout the existence of
this planet, sometimes to great extremes and even causing extinction events.

(32:27):
And it's it's kind of silly to look at the
temperatures from a very short stretch of world history and
like the blink of an eye in terms of geological history,
and say that it's definitive proof, undeniable, definitive proof that

(32:48):
stuff coming out of the smokestacks at in factories and
stuff is the cause of this type of change, just.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Saying yeah, oh yeah, next super chow. Meredith g gives
us five dollars and I think she gave to the fundraiser.
Thank you, Meredith, appreciate it, and says HBr News number
five twenty eight, Honey, for the Badger. It seems to
me if someone at X was calling DHS location as Israel,
someone maybe having some fund with the location feature, so

(33:22):
like a prank kind of. I mean, well, I yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Like, there is what l High
Hypocrite has discovered, according to the refutation by the person
Nikita Pierre, is that it can be like artificially crafted,
like you make a video to make it look like

(33:43):
that's there. But it's thoughly mistake was it was in
gray instead of like the way it's supposed to look,
I guess, and the uh then you figured out it
was fake, so that there is a way to do it,
and obviously whoever did it was doing it, you know,
to basically like play a prank, get everybody worked up.
So but anyway, thank you for.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I was kind of hoping it was true just because
it would be hilarious.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, it would be funny. Well I think a lot
of people were laughing.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
But yeah, I'm willing to entertain the possibility that Israel
is fucking us all, and I'm willing to entertain the
possibility is that it isn't. Are you all happy? Are
you all gonna fucking bitch at me for not saying
either of the things I just said, or saying both
of the things that you said.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh yeah, that makes it even worse.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Well, anyway, let us know what you guys think about
this one in the comments. I got to move on
to the next story. Okay, So Natalie Green, who I'm
going to call Hussy smollette, a twenty six year old
Reuters Law School student and former part time staff assistant
to US Representative Jeff ban Drew, which is the Republican

(35:00):
representative of New Jersey, has been charged federally with conspiracy
to convey false statements and hoaxes, as well as making
false statements to law enforcement, following an alleged stage attack
on July twenty third, twenty twenty five. According to the
criminal complaint, Green and an unnamed female co conspirator fabricated

(35:21):
a violent assault at the Egg Harbor Township Nature Reserve
in New Jersey, where the co conspirator called nine one
one around ten thirty pm, claiming three masked men with
guns had ambushed them while walking a trail, threatened to
shoot them, and specifically reference Green's employment with a federal official. Remember,
she is a part time staff assistant former, so just

(35:47):
remember that, Okay, not high in the totem bowl. Not
really high in the totem bowl. Anyway. Police arrived to
find Green in a wooded area off the trail, her
shirt pulled over her head and secure it with a
zip tie, her hands and feet bound with black zip ties,
and dozens of lacerations on her face, neck, upper chest,
and shoulders inflicted with a scalpel like tool. Her body

(36:09):
bore black marker writings including Trump whorror on her stomach
and federal official like her name, I guess is racist
on her back, with Green screaming that one attacker had
a gun. Investigations by local police and the FBI revealed
the incident was a hoax, with phone records showing the
co conspirator searched zip ties near me on July twenty

(36:32):
one and purchased them at a Dollar General store. Matching
black zip ties and duct tape were later found in
Green's Masarati SUV Masarati expensive car by the way. Further
evidence indicated Green, huh, yes.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
She lost your license, now she can't drive.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Further evidence indicated Green had driven to a Pennsylvania body
modification and scarification artist's studio on July twenty first, providing
a custom pattern and paying five hundred dollars in cash
for the deliberate cuts, as confirmed by a receipt signed
waiver and her new Jersey driver's license recovered from the studio.

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Inconsistencies emerged in Green's and her co conspirator's accounts during interviews,
including mismatched descriptions of the attackers and the sequence of events.
Arrested on November nineteen, twenty twenty five, Green made her
initial court appearance the next day, pleaded not guilty, and
was released on a two hundred thousand dollars unsecure bond
with conditions. Her attorney, Lewis Barbone, maintains her innocence and

(37:41):
emphasizes her presumption under the law. Vanrew's office confirmed her
employment and ended had ended prior to the charges, and
expressed sadness while offering thoughts and prayers for her well being.
If convicted, Green faces up to ten years in prison.
And I just want to say, before you guys take over,
if if you wanted to like be a victim and

(38:04):
without spending all of that money and you like getting
scarred up and everything, just buy a maga hat and
walk around New Jersey and wait, well, you don't have
to like say about Dayton.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
And I didn't people said that to me about Dayton
because it's you know, it's a it's a city, it's
a blue blah blah blah. And I've been here since
two thousand and six. And I suppose there are parts
of Dayton I could go into, like the inner city,
the poorer neighborhoods in the inner city where like the

(38:40):
only thing they get on TV is PBS and CNN.
But most of the communities that I've gone into and
done business and you know, shopped and whatever, like, no,
you wouldn't Nobody would bother you, nobody would care. They
might not even notice that you were there. But yeah,

(39:03):
and I think most of the time people don't notice
each other in public places in bigger cities. And when
you go into smaller communities, most of the people there
are actually pro Trump. So you got quite a bit
of Like most of the rural areas are read, most

(39:25):
of the small town areas are red, large portions of
the blue cities are red. And if you actually zoom
in on the cities in a in a map that
you know shows who voted what way during that election.
You get very small sections, very small precincts that vote blue.
It's just that they're heavily populated, and it's the people

(39:47):
that can't afford to live anywhere else live in those
those neighborhoods for the most part, or the people who
are so wealthy that other people can't afford to live
in their neighborhood. Those are those are the two. Like
everybody in between is either voting red or they don't
care how you vote. And I don't think for the

(40:11):
most part that there are very many places in the
entire United States that somebody could go to be victimized
for being a Republican or wearing a Trump hat or
anything like that. I mean, people will like maybe steal
your hat, you know, or tell you off, and you
can get a recording if you really want to and

(40:32):
be famous on social media. But what she claims happened
to her, I think you'd have to go to Portland
to have that happen, or you know, one of the
countries that are one of the countries, one of the
counties that is exporting people all over the country to

(40:54):
protest for money in neighborhoods where they don't live, and
destroy the shopping centers that they don't shop at, and
so on. None of that is likely to happen in
a location where she would have been What I really
don't understand is what she thought she was going to accomplish,
because this is not a movement that thrives on that

(41:19):
kind of victimhood, this kind of Nobody would have been
excited about this happening. People would have been upset, But
I don't think it would have changed the way that
people thought about Trump, or how they were going to vote,
or what their other political opinions were, or what they

(41:43):
did at any given moment during any day besides maybe
answer a tweet here and there about it. And I
cannot believe that a woman who looks like that was
starved for attention. So there has to be something really
wrong with this woman, like seriously wrong. And I'm glad

(42:03):
she's not working for a politician anymore because somebody who
would do something like this is dangerous, And the fact
that she's maintaining her innocence, like unless she comes out
with some you know, dark horse evidence that you know,
out of nowhere, it's proved that this really did happen

(42:23):
to her, And I would be really really skeptical if
that was, you know, the case, like this is a
dangerous woman who tells dangerous lies, and I'm glad to
see this is playing out with you know, seriousness and everything.
But I certainly hope that she's ordered into mental health

(42:47):
care and you know, not just whatever punishment she gets,
you know, happens, but she can't get out of it,
she can't get released from it when the time comes.
Less he's completed some sort of mental health treatment on
top of that, because that's normal. People don't do this, right,

(43:09):
healthy mentally healthy people don't do this. And I know
that there are a lot of women who lie about
experiencing a violent crime or you know, being in particular
sexually violated or sexually harassed or followed or any number

(43:30):
of other things for specific reasons, covering for cheating on
their boyfriend, mad at a guy that turned them down,
or cheated on them, or something like that, you know,
seeing if they can get money, because there are some
places where victims do get paid out of a stipend

(43:53):
for victims that have medical care needs and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
But.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Just for the hell of it without any goal to
accomplish that seems like a reasonable goal. Will not very
many women do that. There's always something something vengeful going on,
you know, or something capitalistic, something not not like normal

(44:24):
capitalized capitalizing business, but exploitation of the public sympathy. It's
like people who fundraise for cancer that they don't have.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
It.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Just so, this is disturbing. Not in the same way
as say a violent crime or anything like that, but
it is disturbing. And I do hope that they follow
through on this, and there are heavy penalties that she's
not allowed to stop serving until she gets certified care.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I mean, well I met Mike. I'm sure you wanted
to say something about this.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I apologize, no, go on if you if you if you.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Well, I was just all I'm gonna say is you know,
obviously this is like not good to do, and I
I think it's I think it's not good for anyone
to lie about these things are very serious. It wastes
the money and resources and time of law enforcement investigating
hoaxes like this. It's it doesn't matter who does it.

(45:33):
I don't care what you know, Like whatever, the truth
is enough and we already have it on our side.
This actually does more harm to like, you know, like
the case that I would be making as somebody who
is in favor of like the current administration over the alternative.
So I don't really want that. This makes that harder,

(45:55):
and it also feeds into you know, the opposite, like
they use this stuff. But it's also interesting to point
out number one, it was this is a woman doing it,
a young one who as far as I know, she
was only twenty six, so yeah, very young woman. There
was an opportunity for her to make some you know,
get some attention, and she used it. And yet it

(46:19):
didn't get the same kind of media attention that Jesse
Smallett did. And I mean justse Smulltt's like the best,
like opposite. Now maybe it's because he's a celebrity. I'm
sure that that helps. But he got in front of cameras,
he sat down on sixty minutes or whatever it was,
he was able to make his case. Everyone believed it.
It took like a while for that to be debunked. This,

(46:42):
on the other hand, you know, when it happened, people
were like, nah, that probably didn't That's that's not how
that goes. Because even though there have been assassinations you know,
of a couple of people, not just Charlie Kirk, but
there was that guy in I think it was in
Portland that was part of that like Patriot prayer, I think,

(47:03):
and he was murdered by Antifa or someone who's supposed
to be an Antifa member. And uh so we know
that those things happened, but like not some random part
time you know, staff assistant, which is probably like we're
we're looking at one step above an internship for that position.
Most likely that that's not how that works. So it

(47:24):
was suspicious. I'm glad nobody like really bought into it
and went along with it, because it at least tells
us that some cases of women trying to like make
themselves into a victim of the situation through a hoax
that doesn't always work out. But yeah, it is interesting that,

(47:45):
you know, it didn't get the same kind of let's say,
charity that Jesse Smollett's thing did. But I'm not really
that surprised. So that's that's all I want to say,
So Mike, you can go ahead.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, I missed the good old days when all we
did was cut ourselves without any accomplices, and it wasn't
for political reasons. It was just good old fashioned teenage angst.
And yes, I do speak to this from the first person.

(48:17):
I went through that phase when I was eighteen. It's
something I haven't brought up in public since, like ten
years ago. When I did my Miley Stewart response, I
mentioned it to compare it with the trans issue, how
it has parallels with this new kind of self elected mutilation.

(48:41):
I know we like to paint the nineties as though
it was the best time to live, especially as a teenager,
but it wasn't. Listen and gentlemen, the cracks were already showing.
The nineties was when teenagers really got in to the
habit of taking razor blades to their arms. This was

(49:04):
before EMO was the thing, but it seems obvious that
it was part of the phenomenon that led to EMO
being a thing. Yes, to some degree, it was a
social contagion along the lines of did you know you
could take a razor blade and cut ribbons into your
forearms and even stub cigarettes out on those same forearms,

(49:28):
and it can offer you some kind of release, a
physical release from the emotional pain that you're feeling. Just
to be clear, it doesn't whatsoever. It was only ever
a cry for help, even for those of us who
made every effort to hide it. We did it behind

(49:52):
closed doors, and we kept our sleeves rolled down lest
anyone see it. We did it because we wanted to
cry for help without anyone hearing our cries. It sounds
like it doesn't make sense, but it's It's like writing

(50:12):
gloomy poetry that you don't any that you don't want
anyone to read. Ever, it's like primal scream therapy. It's
not important that people hear it. It's important that you
just scream it, indeed into the void. But screaming doesn't

(50:32):
leave scars. Poetry doesn't leave scars. At all points. You
should ask yourself when has it gone too far? And yeah,
when it leaves permanent scars is when it's gone too far.
And it was bad enough in the nineties, when this

(50:53):
typical and inevitable teenage angst collided headlong with the wholly
unnecessary and avoidable social contagion of self mutilation. If only
we could have predicted how much worse it would get
in the twenty first century. Nowadays, young people aren't just

(51:16):
quietly indulging in masochism for private personal reasons. They're orchestrating
sado masochism for political reasons. I think that's what we're
looking at in stories like this, not justse smilet justice, Smiller.
It didn't actually sustain any real injuries. It was just

(51:38):
a hoax, just a theatrical shower of crocodile tears. But
there are people who are actually willing to sustain scars
for the sake of political struggles, political struggles that are
entirely misguided and misapplied. I think it's driven by a

(52:02):
tragic cry for help, the same tragic cry for help
that corrupted us in the nineties, but it's only exacerbated
and indeed encouraged, drawn out even further by this sick
appropriation by political forces. It was bad enough when it

(52:22):
was just a social contagent, but now it's spread like
a cancer into a political contagion. In the nineties, it
was just you should sca yourself because you'll feel better,
and that was bad enough. But now it's you should
scar yourself so we can undermine a president we don't like,

(52:43):
or indeed uphold a president and we don't like. Whatever
the fucking is and any other case, yes, that is worse,
indescribably worse. It almost seems redundant now that it's already
escalated even further, now that we've had numerous stories of
young men setting themselves on fire for the sake of

(53:06):
freeing Pallas sign or whatever, not to mention that God
knows how many young people have elected to have to
have their genitals butterflied because they've been convinced that gender
is an otherwise unfixable vector of oppression. But I don't know.
I guess this story hit me harder than those stories

(53:29):
did because I've never set myself on fire, I've never
cut off a body part altogether. And to thank the Stars,
I only got as far as carving and burning simple
geometric shapes into myself, and I stopped when I realized
it wasn't achieving anything to think we now live in

(53:53):
a generation of young people who think it is achieving
anything to do such things. Is it's really quite disturbing.
I would say shame on anyone who's encouraging this, But
shame is not the answer. Shame is the problem. Shame

(54:15):
is the addiction that everyone keeps reverting to because It's
one of those vices that people think is a virtue.
We used to shame people for being different. Nowadays we
still shame people for being different, but we also shame
people for being normal. Nowadays you get shamed no matter

(54:35):
what you do, and yet people still think shame is
the solution. Everyone in the world could cut themselves into
pieces and burn themselves out of shame, and people will
still try to fix it by shaming everyone even more.
I'm honestly impressed that we even made it this far
as a species. What the flying fuck is wrong with everyone?

(54:59):
Jesus ware it's times like this. I wish I could
think of a joke to lighten the mood, but I cannot.
Just imagine usaid something funny. Folks, you can do it.
I believe in you, and I won't shame you for it.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
All right, Well, let us know where you got. Oh sorry,
hann were you gonna say something? I thought I heard
a voice muted? So impossible, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I suppose the one thing I could say is, you know,
if you're female and you're out there and you're listening,
and you're you're thinking, you're just desperate for attention from conservatives,
or uh libertarians or an caps or the men's rights
movement or any anybody that's not woke dipshits. This is

(55:52):
the opposite of the way that you would get like
we share stuff when people do really cool things like
helping some homeless guy clean himself up and get a job,
or teaching a kid how to fold the American flag

(56:13):
because he didn't know what to do with it when
he came into your yard and found it broken, the
pole broken in the flag on the ground, you know,
or or things like that. Do stuff like that, teach
somebody why they should be part of your political faction

(56:34):
instead of being a woke dipshit, and you know, maybe
maybe we'll pay attention to you, but be careful because
if you do too much of that shit, then you
do end up getting victimized like this, they'll shoot you.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, and like you know, with like hoaxes are only
going to get worse because well with a I so
we're just gonna have to be very very like very
adamant and but yeah, just like don't just you know,
the the the old saying believe none of what you

(57:11):
hear in half of what you see. Well, we're gonna
have to like step that up, believe none of what
you hear and none of what you see, because yeah,
it's gonna get harder and harder to tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
So we are living in the era where the running
Man could easily happen.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, like way easier actually than the
running Man did even did it? All right? Anyways, think
about this. Common's gonna move on to the next story,
all right. So on November seventeen, twenty twenty five, Bethany McGhee,
a twenty six year old business research analy young ladies
in these stories today and a lot of like unfortunate incidents,

(57:52):
twenty six year old business research analysts or Caterpillar originally
from Upland, Indiana, was the victim of a horrific unprovoked
on a northbound Chicago Transit Authority Blue Line train near
the Clark Lake station in the loop. I know exactly
where that is, by the way, as a Chicagoan. According
to federal prosecutors and surveillance footage, a fifty year old

(58:13):
Lawrence Reid, a Chicago resident with an extensive criminal history,
including seventy two arrests since age eighteen, So for basically
thirty two years and recent charges for aggravated battery. Approached
McGee from behind as she sat alone at her phone. Reid,
who had filed who had filled a bottle with gasoline

(58:34):
at a nearby gas station just twenty minutes earlier, poured
the accelerant over her head and body. McGee fought him
off and fled toward the front of the train, but
Reid chased her, ignited the bottle, and used the flaming
container to set her a blaze. As flames engulfed her,
McGee desperately rolled on the floor to extinguish them, while
Reid watched. No other passengers intervened until the train stopped.

(58:56):
When she stumbled onto the platform, collapsed, and was aided
by bystanders who helped put out the fire. Evidence recovered
included a partially melted bottle, a lighter, and burned clothing remnants.
Reid fled but was arrested the next morning, wearing the
same clothes from the video and showing fire injuries on
his hand. During transport, he repeatedly yelled phrases like burn

(59:19):
B and burn alive B, which we know what that
stands for. I'm just reading it as it is described
by the report. He faces federal charges of committing a
terrorist attack or other violence against a mass transportation system,
with a judge ordering him detained due to his dan
dur to the community and a history of violating probation

(59:41):
terms while on electronic monitoring for the prior battery charge.
A mental health evaluation was also mandated after his erratic
courtroom behavior. McGhee, who graduated with a Bachelors of Science
from Purdue University's Polytechnic Institute, suffered severe burns over much
of her body and remains a critical condition at Stroger's

(01:00:03):
Hospital Burn Unit, where her family has expressed gratitude for
the medical team's care while requesting privacy. Strojer Hospital is
actually where I got my cancer treatment done too, by
the way. Originally described as an animal lover, churchgoer and
close to her parents Emily, and brothers Mark and John
based on her social media profiles, McGhee has since been

(01:00:25):
identified in online discussions as a supporter of Black Lives Matter,
and with screenshots circulating of her past Facebook posts expressing
solidarity with the movement. This was from twenty twenty. She
was probably eighteen years old when this happened. Just pointing

(01:00:49):
that out for context. So this detail, amplified on platforms
like x and forums, has sparked polarized commentary, with some
users highlighting the irony given brief background, and others decrying
the lack of intervention or broader systemic issues in Chicago's
public transit, safety, and criminal justice policies. Transportation Secretary Sean
Duffy publicly named McGee on social media, criticizing the city's

(01:01:12):
carelessness in handling repeat offenders and calling for stricter measures.
Her family statement emphasize appreciation for public support amid her
ongoing recovery, underscoring the profound impact on her life and
loved ones. And I just want to add a little
bit more to this because I think it's important to
understand a few things. So I didn't just pick this

(01:01:34):
because of the I guess you could say irony of
her being a young woman supporting Black Lives matter when
things were going down in twenty twenty, and then being
a victim of a terrible crime, a violent crime against
her simply because she was in the wrong place at
the wrong time. We don't know what the motive behind

(01:01:56):
Reed's actions are, but it's sort of irrelevant because there's
a couple of things going on here. Number one, Chicago
or Cook County specifically, has they have a problem with
this sort of catch and release policy in terms of
like how they deal with criminals. They had this act

(01:02:17):
called the Safety Act SAFT SAFE dash T which stands
for Safety, Accountability, Fairness and Equity Today Act to sweeping
twenty twenty one criminal justice reform law. So this came
out after the BLM stuff, Okay, a response to it,
likely put in place by Beatlejews, the former mayor before

(01:02:39):
Brandon Johnson, went into effect on September eighteenth, fully in
twenty twenty three, so this is while Brandon Johnson was
in office, who, by the way, ran on defunding the
police and essentially criminal justice reform, which I put in
quotes which really just means, well, this what I'm about
to read. It's most famous and controvert provision is the

(01:03:01):
complete elimination of cash bail across the state, making Illinois
the first state in the nation to do so. Instead
of requiring defendants to post money to get out of
jail while awaiting trial, the law creates a presumption that
almost everyone is eligible for pre trial release unless prosecutors
can prove in a detention hearing that the person poses
a real and present threat to a specific individual or

(01:03:23):
the community, or is a high flight risk. The law
divides offenses into three categories, One non detainable mostly low
level crimes, two detainable only with strong evidence of danger
or wilful flight, and three automatically detainable murder, certain sex
of offenses, et cetera. Judges may impose conditions such as
electronic monitoring which were imposed on reed who ignored them, curfews,

(01:03:47):
no contact orders, or home confinements. So this is like
criminal justice reform ultimately. Now, one other thing I wanted
to say regarding this read person is that this guy
has been arrested I think like seventy two, yes, seventy

(01:04:09):
two times in Cook County, fifteen times convicted, including eight felonies.
His offenses are various assaults, batteries and arson, drug related crimes,
and property damage, and he has like a whole rap
sheet very long, And the truth is is that he

(01:04:30):
should have been in jail when this happened. He broke
his electronic sort of curfew or his limited movement anyway
to end up in this situation. He obviously needed help
of some other way. But this guy's been in the
system since he was eighteen years old, so it's almost
like some people can't be rehabilitated. And the criminal justice

(01:04:54):
reforms that are being put through are usually headed up
by this lady named Kim Fox who why it's basically
like a feminine way of dealing with crime, which is
to try to reform or rehabilitate or send social workers,
and it just gets people hurt. And this eighteen year
old girl that supported BLM twenty six years old now,

(01:05:17):
but she was see twenty six, it's the twenty twenty five.
In twenty twenty she was no. She was twenty one,
so very pretty young, probably naive, probably felt like virtual
signaling whatever. She was definitely a pro BLM person. I
don't think she is now, But I'm not saying that
because I think it's funny. I just think that we

(01:05:41):
I don't know. It's like there needs to be realism
and there isn't. There's like, I don't know what it is.
It's like a desire to, you know, seem like a
good person, maybe ignore the dangers around you, and then
you put yourself in this situation. And she's not going
to die, so I guess there's that, But she's going

(01:06:03):
to be badly burned, so anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
May she may come back out of the hospital wishing
she had that's going to be really rough because she's
gonna have horrible scars. She's going to have pain for
the rest of her life where those scars are. As
far as this guy, what we know is that he's
been in the criminal justice system since he was eighteen.

(01:06:28):
What we don't know is whether or not he was
in the criminal justice system before he was eighteen, And
based on his trajectory, I'm going to make a supposition,
an educated guess, that his entry into the criminal justice

(01:06:48):
system occurred prior to turning eighteen. And the reason we
don't know is because rightfully, minors criminal records are sealed.
You don't you can't find out that information unless they've
done something that they became famous for doing, and a
lot of kids that go that route end up dead

(01:07:11):
from what they've done. But the thing that bothers me
about discussion of criminal justice reform is that people talk
about it like you can just punish a psychopath or
a sociopath into compliance, And the problem is that most

(01:07:34):
of them like, there's this stereotype right that that social
paths and psychopaths are geniuses that do horrible things and
might might rule the world if if it wasn't for
some you know, benevolent person. Most of them are actually
really really not that bright, borderline intellectually disabled quite frequently fact.

(01:08:01):
And most of them have some sort of history of
having been abused in some way that they have essentially
learned that might make right, and they don't have the
tools that you usually would use to get over that.

(01:08:22):
And except that, you know, you live in a community
with other people, and they have just as much right
to be there as you, and you don't have any
more right to treat them like objects, toys or targets
free or frustration than they do to you. And the
only way to keep the peace is that nobody does that, right,

(01:08:46):
So you end up in a situation where, you know,
if you get somebody like this started in the criminal
justice system, say as a preteen or a teenager, they
go to JUVI and they get beaten up by the
other guys in JUV, they get uh recruited into a

(01:09:07):
gang in JUV, and there's a pretty strong chance that
they get sexually harassed, molested, or other somewhere in between
in their other types of sexual misconduct committed against them
by the female staff at the in fact of sexual

(01:09:33):
misconduct by staff at juvenile facilities involves a woman, it's
like just a woman perpetrator, and then three more percent
a male and a female or two women multiple perpetrators,
and it's the majority of sexual misconduct reported by boys

(01:09:55):
in juvenile detention. So recidivism starts in juvenile detention when
rather than actually trying to figure out why did this
boy commit the crime that landed him here? Is it
because he's developing psychopathy or sociopathy or as some other

(01:10:20):
mental health condition that maybe is treatable, that maybe he
can learn to fit in with society and be a
productive citizen. Or is it because he's been you know,
he's not mentally unwell, but is in some circumstance or
another where this is how he's learned to behave and
trying to figure out how to reform those kids. They're

(01:10:43):
in there getting raped and beaten and recruited into gangs
and essentially roped into recidivism, and as soon as they
turn eighteen, the prison system cares about them even less,
and they'll either be warehoused or they'll be caught and released.

(01:11:06):
But at no point in the prison system does anybody
consider just teaching teaching people at the childhood age when
they first start getting into trouble a better way or
improving their life circumstances like maybe they're in an abusive

(01:11:27):
home and you need to get them out of that home.
When they get released, if they're in a gang in
a poor neighborhood, something like, they get sent back into
the same damn environment. So when they're young, when there's
maybe a chance of ending their career as a criminal

(01:11:49):
and starting them on a career as a regular citizen
that does some sort of job and pays their rent
and interacts peaceful with other people, they don't get the
benefit of the education they need, they don't get the
treatment they need, and they do get treated like just

(01:12:16):
objects in a warehouse. And that's if the prison system
is being nice to them, because there's a lot worse,
and it's you might as well just lock people up
the first time that they get arrested and never let
them back out. If you're going to do that, there's

(01:12:36):
the idea that putting someone in a cell for so
many you know, months, or so many weeks or so
many years, cures them of whatever behavioral tendencies existed in
them that caused them to commit the crime that got
them arrested and put them there. It's it's just bullshit,

(01:13:00):
you know. Go sit over here, Go sit in a cell,
Go hang out with these other criminals. Go spend your
time surrounded by people who did things just as stupid
and wrong as what you did, with very little help
and bettering yourself. You know, maya, maybe you can take
some classes, maybe they have some kind of program that

(01:13:23):
addresses the surface issues you but for the most part,
very little help, no serious effort at rehabilitation. And by
the way, we'll see you in another six months after
you get out, because we know you're gonna do it again.

(01:13:44):
If if we did that with other stupid human behavior,
like hospitals sabotaged patient's ability to live a healthy lifestyle
so that you know, they had a guaranteed repeat customer
coming in, for instance, People get mad when they find

(01:14:06):
out that that's happened, right. People get mad when they
learn that a particular form of treatment is actually causing
health problems instead of curing them. People get mad when
they find out that a particular medicine or other substance
that you're being asked to put into your body is
doing damage instead of healing you. People file lawsuits for

(01:14:32):
malpractice and multiple other things. Right people, People file lawsuits
even when the medical community didn't know that what they
were doing was going to have that effect, even when

(01:14:54):
it was the only thing available. And when something better
comes along, sue the hospital doesn't even have to be
in the wrong. When they are in the wrong, you
get big class action lawsuits. Right, so outrage over it.
When the medical profession does that, it's huge, widespread, pretty

(01:15:19):
much universal. Has resulted in an entire faction of the
legal services and an entire area of law. The prison system.

(01:15:39):
Nobody cares, right, nobody's like, oh gosh, these poor guys
because they're criminals, so everybody hates them. Nobody considers the
idea that creating a population of human beings who are
so dysfunctional that they once they're released from human storage,

(01:16:05):
basically they're they're going to do something that's going to
get them put back in there over and over again.
So the prison can be paid by the stake to
continue to warehouse them. Why why aren't people upset about that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
All right, Mike, do you want to say anything I do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
To put it back to the incident in question. In Europe,
we often criticize Americans for not having more trains and buses.
We know you like your cars, but we're like, maybe you,
maybe you wouldn't have to drive them all the time
if you had other options, climate change or no climate change,

(01:16:57):
Maybe you would benefit from a more developed public transit system.
But the penny is starting to drop now, especially now
that here in Europe, we too are experiencing the results
of having to share these confined public spaces with people
who have been trained and encouraged to kill us, and

(01:17:20):
not just kill us with guns, but kill us with
anything that can be purchased from a gas station or
at your local Walmart. The automatic knee jerk reaction is,
of course, to ban the sale of anything that can
be used to kill someone. We're not allowed guns here
in Europe, or at least in the UK, and we're

(01:17:41):
on the verge of banning kitchen knives that have sharpened tips.
And whoa betide what happens when anyone gets burned alive
with petroleum in this neck of the woods will no
longer be allowed to pump our own gas. I know
that's an americanhy stereotype, but I believe New Jersey is

(01:18:04):
the only state left where you can't do that that
sort of reagion ANYWAYES be grateful Americans that, as reactionary
as your government appears to be, they don't attempt to
solve every problem by punishing law abiding citizens. Maybe they
will eventually figure out the elusive solution to this Rubik's cube.

(01:18:25):
Maybe you should punish the criminals. Seventy two, seventy motherfucking
two arrests, and the motherfucker was still walking free. Is
any one of the Guinness Book of Records writing this
shit down, because there should be an entry for this
kind of shit. I recall there being this three strikes

(01:18:47):
and your out rule. It's one of these dubious factoids
we keep hearing about the American.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Justice system in one state.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Punitarian, punitively authoritarian. According to the propaganda, if you commit
three crimes in America, no matter what those crimes are,
you get prison with a parole. Well, pardon my swollen pancreas,
but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm I'm
sure it's true that the USA imprisons more of its
population than any other country except El Salvador, a very

(01:19:20):
recent change. But one has to wonder what the fuck
all those Americans did wrong when a nick pardon me,
that was close. When a brother can commit seventy two
crimes and still not go to jail until he sets
a bitch on fire in full view of a CCTV camera. Meanwhile,

(01:19:41):
Derek chauvin Rot's in prison fighting for his life every
day because once he kneeled on the shoulder of a
man dying from a fential of a I'm thinking maybe
we're being like to I'm thinking the problem you have
in the States is the same problem we have in Europe,
namely an implicit caste system, where some demographics keep committing

(01:20:06):
crimes because they keep getting away with those crimes, and
some demographics can't say boo to a goose without getting
the fucking book thrown at them. But look at the
prison population. It's disproportionately non white. Yes, that's what happens
when you encourage and incentivize non white people to commit

(01:20:27):
crimes against white people. That's what happens when you convince
non whites that they are oppressed by whites, they act
as though they're oppressed. They act as though they have
every right to shoot and stab and burn alive the
people who are oppressing them. If the justice system was
actually blind and impartial, like it's supposed to be, the

(01:20:51):
ratio would be even more skewed. If you weren't imprisoning
white teenagers for possessing a half inch blim of hash,
but you were in prisoning or the fifty IQ shadow
beasts for seventy two violent felonies, then the prison population
would be even more skewed. It would have the same

(01:21:13):
demographic makeup as all the fucking commercials. It would be
black men and white women as far as the eye
could see. Same in Europe. By the way, I'm not
singling out America here, we have exactly the same problem
over here. It has long since been decided that white
people and men are the untermensch. And yes, black men

(01:21:37):
count as men and white women count as white. So
a lot of them get caught in the crossfire, be
it in the prisons or on the fucking trains. You
all are going to get arrested and stabbed and set
on fire as well. It's a small price to pay
as long as every white man who returns a library
book two seconds late gets through own in solitary confinement

(01:22:01):
for six months. You might ask what the solution to
this problem might be, But what we're dealing with is
a solution, a solution to a problem that never existed,
a final solution. You might say. We're living under a
regime that has declared its final solution, that the cause

(01:22:25):
of all our problems is straight white Christian men. And
this isn't just a conspiracy theory. They are telling us this.
They've been telling us this every opportunity since the Frankfurt
School outlined it almost exactly a century ago. They are
still telling us this. Who is they? Who do you

(01:22:50):
mean by they? You dickhead? You the fucking reply guy
listening to me right now, probably in the fucking special
chat as you conduct your gaslighting backhanded response to what
I'm currently saying. You know what I'm saying. It's what
you believe. You will admit it when it suits you,

(01:23:12):
and you will deny it when it suits you. I
will never get through to you, and I know that
you are not even conscious now. You are human I
you know, I won't rhetorically go as far as some
of us would. I do believe you're human, but I

(01:23:33):
will go so far as to say you're not conscious.
Dear reply guy in the special chat. Just like a
computer infected with a virus is no longer subject to
its factory settings, you are no longer beholden to yours.
So I'm no longer interested in arguing with you. You
are a lost cause, and I am only interested in

(01:23:55):
defeating you. And when you are defeated, when you are
cold and naked and starving, I will not be there.
By the creed and the color and the name won't matter,
I won't be there. I will give you as much
sympathy as you gave Charlie Kirk as he lay dying
in full view of his grieving family. Make of that

(01:24:22):
what you will and what you do, and what world
you have made for yourself. I look forward to it
in this life or the next. Doctor fucking random account,
mounted fucking news, honey, fucking badger, fucking radio.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Yeah, the bit about the number of arrests. I hate
to say this, but in the United States, the highest
number of arrests attributed to a single individual meaning this
individual was arrested that many times, fifteen hundred over fifteen
hundred one guy, mostly for things like being drunk in

(01:25:05):
public and stuff like that. And another issue here in
the US is approximately sixty percent of all criminal offenses
leading to arrest and incarceration here have some sort of
relation to alcohol or as illicit drugs as a causative factor.

(01:25:26):
Either the individual was high, was brain damage from over
use of a substance, you know, or they were drunk,
or they were seeking ways to get a substance they
are not legally allowed to have. And then of course
there's also the crimes committed in the course of selling

(01:25:48):
illegal substances, where the individuals create a territory to defend
and shit like that. A significant amount of crime in
the US would be eliminated if we could get the
drug problem here under control. And also a significant amount

(01:26:09):
could be eliminated if we decriminalized drug use and drug
sales and just started targeting the problem as a mental
health problem instead of a criminal issue. Either way, you know,
you would stop arresting people for having drugs, stop arresting

(01:26:29):
people for seeking drugs. And if somebody commits a crime
because they're too stupid to not commit a crime when
they're high or drunk. You address the addiction, and that
will as long as the individual successfully overcomes the addiction,
that will eliminate the criminal behavior. A huge amount of

(01:26:51):
criminal behavior revolves around those two substances, such as substances
different types of alcohol and different types of drugs, and
it would have to be addiction. It is a mental
health problem, but it would have to be treated differently
than a lot of other mental health problems because a

(01:27:12):
lot of mental health problems they're genetic and the cures
are not necessarily behavioral. There are mental health problems where
the cure is behavioral, like contracting with obsessive compulsive disorder,
for instance, and the disorder doesn't go away, just like
addiction doesn't go away, but the individual develops the tools

(01:27:36):
they need to fight the addiction. And it's rather important
that we switch to this method of dealing with these
issues if we ever want to reduce the size of
the prison population, reduce recidivism, and reduce the likelihood that

(01:27:57):
there are going to be people running around in public
committing horrible crimes like this. Just the it's not that
a for profit model is bad it's that a profit
from return customers model is bad in the prison system,

(01:28:18):
and there needs to be some other way to reward
dealing with these issues, like profit from you know, a
greater reward or whatever, profit from preventing recidivism, from preventing
the individual from being arrested again and again and harming

(01:28:41):
other people and stealing from other people and so on.
You could almost guarantee this individual probably at some point
started out trying something stupid to impress friends or to
get drugs, or while he was using drugs at some point,

(01:29:01):
has probably been in a gang, at some point, has
probably been exploited by somebody smarter than him to commit
crimes for them, and at some point has has been
abused for trying to change. And it just just I

(01:29:24):
feel for this family and I feel for the girl
that this happened to, This happens, maybe not this blatant
all over the country. Every big city has repeat offenders
like this that get let loose and nothing is changing.

(01:29:45):
Like we've been talking about this, not just we at
Honey Badger Radio, but we as a country have been
talking about this for as long, probably longer, much longer
then I've been paying attention to politics. So you know,
since I started at the age of thirteen and nineteen
eighty five, we're we're talking, I've been hearing it for

(01:30:06):
forty years. Things need to change, things need to change,
and nobody's doing it. It's not changing. So it's very discouraging.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Well, if we're if we're talking about read he was
failed like a long time ago. Yeah, and uh yeah,
I mean like the the you know, there's there's so
much we can get into, like the welfare state and
all these other things. And we have done that a
lot on this channel, but like trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Ever been allowed to get this far. But the last
time he got in front of a judge, he shouldn't
have been let off because.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
No, no, that's what I'm saying. It was just so
that so they create the conditions for these people to
exist and they and they're they're suffering, you know, for
a number of reasons, addiction or whatever, and their life
is violent. Their life knows nothing but you know, anger
and pain and disorder, and they bring that to other people.

(01:31:08):
And these people facilitate it by letting them out of
prison every time, or not even convicting them because of
like soft on crime stuff. It's like they create the
problem with the welfare state and then they don't even
offer a solution. They offer a placebo, which is, oh,
you get to feel good about caring about the downtrodden,
but you're making them downtrodden and bitter and damaged and

(01:31:30):
broken and abused. And then they go on to do
that to other people, and you don't actually have any
solutions except like blaming the system, blaming men, blaming patriarchy,
blaming capitalism, blaming the West, blaming white people, you know,
whatever it is. You don't solve any problems because they
don't have any intention of it. And other people, innocent

(01:31:51):
people get hurt in the crossfire of this stuff, not
just the guy himself. And I said this when we
covered the George Floyd thing, when when the body cam
footage came out and it was on Daily Mail. This
was shortly after the incident, and I insisted that Alison
and I cover it, and because I knew it was

(01:32:11):
going to create problems, and it didn't. It basically never
went away, like we're still dealing with the backlash and
the outcome which I said we were going to. I
said that there are parts of Chicago that have not
recovered since the assassination of Martin Luther King Junior. There
were like riots that happened, and there are parts of
that city that have never recovered it. And I said,

(01:32:34):
this is going to be even worse, even though this
guy is a nobody, right, but it was. It was
even worse. I had to leave the city. I had
to basically like I lost friends because they all bought
into the bullshit and I I can't talk to my
family about it too.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
And right when he did what he did that got
the police's attention in the first place, Uh, trying to
pass off a counterfeit bill. He that that was years
after his original first like his criminal history was was

(01:33:13):
it started in the nineties and new drugs and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Well the whole, the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Uh, that's a that's a perfect example of a guy
who never should have been allowed to get to that point. Yeah,
because the last time he was in front of a right,
the last time he was in front of a judge
before that incident, you know, he should have had he
should have a book drawn at him.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
And this first.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Time he was in front of a judge, he should
have been treated in a very different manner. He should
have had somebody trying to change the way he thinks
so that he does not have that rap sheet that
goes all the way back to nineteen ninety seven, which
is what he had. And this is the same thing

(01:34:03):
this girl. You know, obviously the guy is at fault
for what he did, but this girl is her whole
life is going to change if she survives, which there's
a significant chance that she won't. The higher percentage of
your body that's covered and burns, the less chance you
have is surviving. Your skin is one of the it's

(01:34:23):
a vital organ. It is It is the biggest organ
in your body, and when it is damaged, if you
cannot regrow it properly, even with scar tissue, you suffer
a whole bunch of other maladies, including serious infections, and
a lot of burn patients die from sepsis because of that.

(01:34:46):
That what happened to her there, the guy that did
this to her never should have been in this situation
in the first place, and the fact that he was.
You have two sets of people with a gen that
are butting heads. One of them is to let everybody
go set of people, and the other one is you

(01:35:08):
can punish it out of them without trying anything else,
and neither one of them is right. But they're not
going to change. This is not going to change until
regular people start standing up and saying we need real reform,
not this bullshit, like our prison system has been reformed

(01:35:29):
in quotes over and over and over again, this is
the result. They need to do something different.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Yes, anyway, last thing I'll say about this is, interestingly,
Mike brought up Derek Chauvin, who is like, there was
an attempt mate on his life. Well, we don't know
if he's going to get out of prison alive and
if it was that incident that led to this incident.

(01:36:02):
Because the Soft On Crime the Safety Act was put
in a place in twenty twenty one and it was
finalized in twenty twenty three, so shortly after the incident
involving Floyd and Chauvin, they changed policy and law and
they basically created a system that lets potentially violent criminals

(01:36:24):
free and allows them second, third, fourth, fifth, seventeen chances,
you know whatever, because he was arrested seventy two times
but convicted like seventeen times or something like that. And
then it also creates the conditions for people like this
young lady to do this virtue signaling thinking that she's

(01:36:47):
right and then putting herself in this position. So it's
it's just like this is what lies do. And I'm
you know, I'm going to I'm going to like beat
the drum on this, and like I said, you know
that I know this is men's rights channel and what
I what I all base already made it clear that
the the thing about the men's issues is they start,

(01:37:10):
you know, when the child is born, and if we
can't intervene before that, and then there's like negative consequences
like that child turns to crime. H Well that you know,
that's that's not like that's that's the product of a
system that does not acknowledge the humanity of men. And
so we're looking at this the the outcomes of that,

(01:37:31):
and I'm using this as an opportunity to point that
out as well, so that I'm not taking any pleasure
in this. I it is it's ironic and a sad
way because you know it's well, I don't I don't
know what to say about that. It's just it's just
something that should never have happened. But she still she
supported the people who put the policies in place that

(01:37:52):
put her in this position that and I don't know
if he's going to put those put that stuff together.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Women do this all the time time. Oh these people mean,
well you should know. And at the same time you
have another set of women, so women like her will say,
let everybody go. All they did was x y Z,
where X y Z isn't just smoke a joint, it's
shoplifted rogain, you know, or some other like expensive item

(01:38:24):
as part of a shoplifting gang. All they did was
is steal the neighbor's dog because it was a rare
breed and sell it on a black market. You know.
All they did was carjack somebody. And it'll escalate like
that to the point where people are genuinely being directly
victimized by an individual. And you hear, well, all they

(01:38:46):
did was is it really that bad that they lifted
your wallet? Is it really that bad that they stole
your id? Is it really bad? And it's because they
want to have that soft heart. And then at the
other end of it, you have sometimes the same women,
by the way, demanding misogyny laws. Oh don't let a
man say bitch if he says, bitch, you should arrest him.

(01:39:11):
Don't let a man whistle in public. He might be
whistling at a girl. You better arrest him for that too.
So they're demanding that the state arrest men who really
haven't done anything to be afraid of, but let the
men go that have. And they're demanding that the state

(01:39:34):
treat men like threats all the time, not potential threats,
men who have the capacity to be dangerous if they
so choose, but men who at some point are going
to choose to be dangerous. They'll make statements about choosing
the bear because you know, you know the bear's not
going to rape you. No, you don't. By the way,

(01:39:57):
there's you don't know. They they had a wrestling bear
that went to different bars and you could wrestle it
when it was well it'll eat you, it'll eat you,
but you know that the bear will eat you. But
the thing is they had male and female people could

(01:40:20):
come in and wrestle. Right, you had to be partnered
up with another gal if you wanted to wrestle the bear.
You couldn't be on your period. And there were bunches
of girls that were like and in the bar is
going how dare you ask if we're on our periods,
do you understand if it smells that it's either going
to get violent and and think it's blood and try

(01:40:44):
to eat you, or it's going to behave in an
entirely inappropriate manner for an animal to behave toward a human.
Women get upset before they ever consider what it is
being asked to disclose. Why are you being asked to
disclose this? Maybe it's because somebody's trying to protect you, right,

(01:41:04):
And women will go for causes like this because they
think the first layer, but they don't dig underneath that
first layer and think to the second layer, and the
third layer and the fourth layer of If you don't
address the underlying causes of these behaviors, they will continue forever.

(01:41:26):
If you don't do something to help this person change
the way he thinks, he'll never change the way he behaves.
So if you're letting him go every time he does
something bad, he's going to do worse and worse things
until you can't let him go because he's killed someone
and she just happened to be the victim of one

(01:41:50):
of those guys. And at the other end of it,
women also don't think through if you if you think
everything is scary, regardless of whether it's violent or just insulting.
If you think that the state has to protect you

(01:42:13):
from every little thing, you lose all of your rights too,
and eventually the whole thing will explode into violence as
people resist what you've created. And we're sort of in
the middle of both right now. Thanks ladies. Yeh.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
To some degree, like I have no sympathy for the
older women who've been on board with the feminist bullshit
since long before it was imposed on them, But we're
a few generations into it now. And this chick, she
was born into this nonsense and.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
She had to do sorry for her.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
She had more than a fifty chance of just being
brainwashed into it in the first place. And it's like
an animal being led into the coliseum to be shot
through the heart by the by the fucking emperor. And
that's basically what happened. And like, to some degree, I'm like,
I wish someone would have would have intervened and told her,

(01:43:18):
you know, you're being alled to, But the chances were
pretty fucking slim that that would happen, And you know,
the chances were pretty great that someone like her would
have been the kind of person who would have been
burned alive by some brother. It's you know, it's it's
just a matter of statistics. And as you know, as

(01:43:40):
much as I'm like, as much as I blame women
for voting all of this shit in, like I check,
as young as her didn't vote shit into. I mean
I she was barely old enough to have voted for
any of this. And like, as much as I'm like, women,
this is your fault, Like, it's not Hannah's fault, so

(01:44:03):
Alison or or Karen or Lauren's fault like there are
it's just like there are plenty of female athletes who
never wanted that, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
To be competing in in with men.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Yeah, too, have been dominated and beaten the ship out
of by by these male athletes. Like, but we're in
a hell of a tightrope trying to try and trying
to blame women as a whole without blaming the few
uniticottons that didn't fucking want this, you know, Yeah, all
things considered, Let's try and consider all things, you know

(01:44:38):
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I agree, all right, I got to move on to
the next story. But I got some super chats to
read out, So let us know what you guys think
about this one. In the comments, uh, cy cyberserk says,
for two hundred kronas, I think a German science criminologist
is that the word said. Pyromaniacs and ex phibitionists are

(01:45:00):
much more dangerous than usually expected. They need a stronger
adrenaline kick every time. That's interesting. And then he gives
another two hundred cronas and says, a female pyromaniac killed
two women in a parking lot in Zurich, Switzerland over
the period of a couple of years. Profilos were, of
course looking for a male perpetrator. Yeah, that's uh the course.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
With maniacs, there's probably a dopamine connection, right. It's a
similar thing that occurs with addiction. There's often a dopamine connection,
and you if you have an addiction to something that
you are doing to essentially get dopamine hits from your

(01:45:45):
own bodies production of dopamine, you do need a bigger
hit every time, basically because you start to build up
a tolerance to it. That's one of the reasons why
drugs that caused you you to overproduce dopamine are so addictive,
and they interfere with your body's ability also uh to

(01:46:08):
produce and and detacked and used dopamine, and as a result,
you end up being you know, twitchy or otherwise looking
like you are fidgety, can't stop moving, and stuff like that.
You get essentially a whole set of behaviors that that

(01:46:33):
that revolve around UH. This the dysfunction caused by your
dopamine imbalance, and it never goes back to normal. Now
there's a significant difference between there's a significant difference between

(01:46:56):
I'm looking at the chat mangk, You're wrong in terms
of addiction versus normal behavior. You do get, you do
get dopamine hits, and you do get you do treat
it like something that you have to have more and

(01:47:16):
more of every time. And in terms of normal behavior,
where it motivates you to do, you know, good things
like cleaning your room or whatever, things that you take
satisfaction with, there is a significant difference. And it isn't
just something that happens with drugs. Drugs do have a

(01:47:40):
higher damage rate than other forms of addiction, but it's
not something that you can discount. I guess that would
be the way to put it. Right, So, yeah, what
this individual, so what what? What he basically said about

(01:48:02):
the these pyromaniacs and such is true, but it's not
the only it's not the only addiction that that happens
with in terms of the women. And they were looking
for men in terms of the women committing the crime,
and they were looking for men that did it. That's
where stereotyping turns out to be wrong most of the time.

(01:48:27):
When a crime like that's committed and and there's destruction
and somebody gets caught, it's it's a guy. But that
doesn't mean that you should never listen to district the
description and look for a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Yeah, all right, well I gotta move on. So I'm
going to move on to the next story, because where
does a long sausage? So we got one more left.
Let us know what you guys think about this in
the comments. All right, So we have another passing And okay,
so you know, I love movies and this is guy's

(01:49:08):
one of those character actors that you see him around,
but he's not like a big, big guy. But I'm
a big fan of Udo Kierr So Udo kier the
prolific German actor renowned for his roles in over two
hundred films spanning cult classics in art house cinema. Died
on Sunday, November twenty third, at age eighty one in
Palm Springs, California, as confirmed by his partner, artist Delbert

(01:49:30):
McBride Byrne born Udo Keerspy in Cologne amid World War
two bombings. Kierre discovered his passion for acting after moving
to London at eighteen and encountering director Reiner Werner Fastbender.
In a twenty twenty four Variety interview, he equipped I
liked the attention, so I became an actor. His early
breakthrough came in Andy Warhol produced horror comedies, playing the

(01:49:54):
Inetley Monstrous Counts in Paul Morrissey's nineteen seventy three Flesh
for frankn Stein in nineteen seventy four Blood for Dracula.
Kier's career flours through extensive collaborations including Fastbenders, the station
Master's Wife Lil Marlene, and the third Generation Gus van
Santz nineteen ninety one, My Own Private Idaho with River

(01:50:16):
Phoenix and Canna Reeves, which secured his US foothold, and
Lars von Trier's OUVR from Europa nineteen ninety one to
Nymphomaniac Volume two twenty thirteen, alongside mainstream turns in Armageddon,
Blade and Ace Ventura Pet Detective. This is what a
lot of people know him is. I never saw Aspandura

(01:50:37):
Pet Detective, but I've seen him in a bunch of
other stuff. He also appeared in Madonna's Sex Book and
videos like Erotica. Kier's recent work included a starring role
in Clever Mendonka's Philhos The Secret Agent twenty twenty five,
which Von Wagner Mora's Best which won him at the

(01:51:00):
Best Actor at Cannes. Settling in Los Angeles and Palm Springs,
where he lived in a converted mid century library, he
became a festival staple, particularly at Palm Springs International Film Festival.
Tributes poured in, with Von Trier calling him a great
artist and a dear friend in Van Zandt remembering his
unique presence that elevated every scene. Ker's death marks the

(01:51:21):
loss of a versatile icon. Who's Deadpaan Menace and Rye
Charm defined generations of boundary pushing cinema. He was also
in Command and Conquer, a video game. I never played it,
but he played one of the characters on that as well,
so he's kind of all over the place. So anyway, yeah,

(01:51:42):
he was in Armageddon in a daze. I often quote
him his character in Blade and yeah, I mean I
look just a little story to end on. I like
Udo Kierre. I was always a big fan. He's right
up there with Jurgen Proc. Now do you guys know
Yurgen Proc? Now he was in like he was in
in the Mouth of Madness and dos Boot he was

(01:52:04):
That's the thing he's mostly known for. So anyway, Uh,
anybody want to say anything about do you guys know
him from any movies?

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
Yes, I feel like I've seen him in everything.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Yeah, he's one of those guys. He's one of those
you've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Him in the first person I thought of when you
said the link of his career was John Wayne. He's
he's like, he's been in everything. He's done every kind
of everything.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
He usually plays vampires and creepy dudes.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
I mean yeah, yeah, usually usually he's the bad guy.
He's a villain or he's a vampire creepy dude. But
but it just seems like one of the most familiar
faces out there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Yeah anyway, So go ahead, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Yeah, Like I said, give you some quotes if if
you've got the time. Quote. The villain is the character
that people remember. End quote. True, not just in movies,
but in real life. More so in real life than
in movies. The most famous person in any war is
the bugger who started it. Food for thought. Quote, I

(01:53:19):
tried all my life to be a normal person. End quote.
Well maybe you should have been a villain a ouda
or quote. When I'm depressed and the weather is bad,
I look up my page on IMDb, and I have
my coffee and feel better. There are even films on there.

(01:53:40):
I don't know about. End quote. The same here. I
occasionally go to my entry on IMDb to see if
anyone's added anything, and I've beam with pride that they
have not. Quote. I have few friends. I can count
them on one hand. I go by myself to the

(01:54:00):
cleaners and the supermarket, and I live alone with my dogs.
That's him talking, not me, by the way. And yeah, based,
but I guess I would say that quote normally. I
like my privacy in the high desert. All right, Well,
extra Based, you've outdone me, mister kier The hermit powers

(01:54:24):
are strong with this one quote. There's actors and actresses
who I call trailers stars because their importance is expressed
by how big their trailers are. And then there are
real actors who are real good people. End quote. True facts, sir.
That's the difference between an actor and a star. Actors

(01:54:47):
can transform into other people's stars. Just turn up as
themselves and read the lines and try not to trip
over the furniture. Speaking of which, quote, audition is the
worst thing. It's like cleaning furniture in a department store.
End quote. I don't quite know what he means by that,

(01:55:09):
because probably because I don't do auditions, the whole process
seems so destroying to me. So I'll take his word
for it that it's sole destroying in the same way
as cleaning furniture is in the department store. Quote. I
like to work with directors who write their own stories.

(01:55:29):
End quote. Same. Moreover, I prefer it when that writer
director is me. Quote. My agent is a vampire, my
lawyer is a vampire. They're all vampires, but they don't
suck your blood. They take your money. Vampires are everywhere.

(01:55:51):
It just depends what they're running after. Loll your boy.
Your boy is painting quite the picture of what act
of why acting is not the glamorous bed of roses
is made out to me. Don't do it, kids, Write
your own material and get to work. We don't need

(01:56:12):
these fucking vampires anymore. Quote I don't wear gloves when
I work in the garden. End quote. I don't know
the context of that quote. He he was, he was
gardening was one of his hobbies. He was a very

(01:56:32):
avid gardener. So I like to think that that's a
metaphor for something, but not knowing what that's something is,
I would also like to think that he's literally talking
about gardening. There therein is the essence of a profound
quote as a gentleman, when it when it works every
every every every year, each way. I I didn't know

(01:56:55):
anything about this chapter, to be honest, I couldn't have
put his name to his face until he died just now.
But you know, I always enjoy looking into people's quotes
because it's nice to see how much you have in
common with those with those who are considered great men.
It's also interesting to see how much you don't have
in common, and maybe even to make fun of them
for some of the silliest quotes they made. But it's

(01:57:18):
not cricket to be making fun of the dead, at
least not quite as soon as that, So I'll save
it for another day. Rick you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Care, yeah, German reasonably.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Good luck to you after that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
All right, So that was a long, long show, but
it's okay. We're gonna do the Patron Show now. Oh shit,
where is my article? And we're gonna look at let
me just I gotta get ready here somehow I close
that window on accidents. But we're going to be going
to the Patron Show to find out how Bill Ackman

(01:57:58):
is gonna save dating. So this is from Business Insider
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Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
It's a good time. Everyone gets to gets to be
heard and I get a break from talking. So thanks
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