How Feminism Conned Gen Z Men Into College Debt (And What to Do Instead)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening everybody, and welcome to
Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian. I'm here with
Allison and this is maintaining frame how feminism con Gen
Z men into college debt and what to do instead.
Where we're going to be looking at an article that's
been making the rounds on compactmag dot com and I think, well,
I think it'll let Alison sort of you go from there.

(00:22):
So go ahead, Alison.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
So for a very long time, I've gotten crap for
saying the following two young men do not go into
higher education unless someone is paying you to take that education.
And it's interesting to be vindicated at the end at
the end of this because now we're seeing the actual numbers.

(00:44):
So what's happening is that if you go into higher
education and you incur twenty five thirty thousand dollars a debt,
or even the couple hundred thousand that would require you
that you recry or to get like a PhD or
a master's, you aren't seeing the employment opportunities that used

(01:04):
to come from putting that amount of work into your education.
And this is unique to Generation Millennial and Generation Z men.
They are seeing unemployment rates equal to those men who
haven't gone into higher education, and yet those men who
haven't gone into higher education are getting jobs without the

(01:24):
huge debt load. So it's starting to shape up that
this is a con that this is that Generation Z
and millennial men have been conned by higher education. They've
been pushed into it by you know, the K through twelve.
Everybody's like, what are you going to do when you graduate?
What are you going to take a major in? When
you go to higher education? But nobody told you that

(01:46):
you're going to incur all of this debt. You're going
to go, You're going to put your life on hold
to go into these institutions, and at the end of
the day, you are going to be discriminated against. As
a degree holding men, you are going to be discriminated against.
The unemployment of women who hold degrees is still higher

(02:06):
than women who don't. It is men who hold degrees
who are actively being discriminated against. So they basically took
your money, left you with a bunch of debt, and
at the end of the day, you have no job
to show for it. So that's where we're sitting at,
and it's because of all of the DEI initiatives, all

(02:28):
of the me too pressures, all of the stuff that
feminists brought pushed into academia, media, Hollywood, all of the
varioust artistic industries like animation. Yeah, it's if you've been
feeling like there's you're going up against a brick wall
while dragging a chain of debt like a ball and

(02:52):
chain of debt, you're not wrong. You were set up
for failure. And as always, please my prognostication is it prognostication.
My prescription is get angry and then get practical, because
we're going to talk about how you deal with the
reality as it is, not the reality they're trying to

(03:14):
sell you, but reality as it is. As we have
spoken on this channel lots of times, there is a
huge chasm between what teachers will say, what academics will say,
what the media will say, and what reality actually is
for millennial men, gen z men, and you know, to
a lesser extent, older men, because we're you know, we're

(03:35):
still dealing with discrimination in family courts and in law
and all of that other stuff. So today we're going
into the con that feminism has perpetrated against younger men
in higher education all right, if you will, Yeah, if
you want to send us a message at any time

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throughout the show, you can do so at feedbadger dot
com slash justice tip send some questions because I think
this one will invite a lot of questions. And if you,
I know, our viewership tends to skew more like millennial
and Generation X. If you have younger you young men
that you know and are in position to give any advice,

(04:17):
to listen and absorb what we say because they need
to know this. They need to know they pitfalls and
the problems in navigating getting a job in this day
and age. And at the end or no, I shouldn't
have used the end word. Towards the day you, maul

(04:37):
I will be presenting a flow chart for young men
who are getting into higher education and whether or not
you should you shouldn't, but you know, if you insist
upon it, there are some options that you can take
to minimize the risk to yourself. All right, do you
want to just get started? Then?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yes? And before I do, though, there does seem to
be an issue that I want to raise. The vertical
stream is not starting. I've tried the whole time. It's okay, though,
I'm recording it, so I can just send you the
file and you can turn into shorts after. In the meantime,
I may try to start another vertical stream while we're talking,

(05:14):
just like if I can get it to start up.
But yeah, I'm aware that it's not running. I think
that there was an update in OBS and the software
the specific plug in that allows me to stream vertically,
and I think that happened earlier today and that might
have been the that might be an issue. So we'll
see if I can figure it out, though, yep. In

(05:35):
the meantime, so no, I did not. I did notice
that I am. I am on top of it. But okay,
so we're not going to read through the article because
it's really long, but we do have some of the
like like the general thesis of the article, and I
guess some specific points that are made. So do you

(05:55):
do you have any or should I? Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, honestly, the overall thesis of the article is it's
just an elaboration of everything that we've talked about and
noticed in one place. It covers all the personal experience
of a lot of men in the variety of industries,
from Hollywood to media to academia, and to a lesser extent,

(06:21):
in more high the higher end of research and development
in the business world. So it's the gamut of potential
career opportunities, the kind of career opportunities that used to
be you would want to aim for because they were fulfilling,
and a lot of personal anecdotes about having been frozen

(06:43):
out of getting jobs in these variety of career settings.
So it's creativity, media, and research and development, and it's
a lot. It's substantial, and it's backed up with a
lot of statistics on how much the rate of employment

(07:04):
for men, and in particular white men in these fields,
how much it has gone down over the years. And
I think that's particularly unlightening. It's pretty much embedded very deeply.
You know. I would just start because I think that
at least the first few paragraphs are a good way
to set what's going on. So just just a minute, yeah,

(07:25):
just start, all right?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
So this is the Lost Generation by Jacob Savage on
Compact dot Com. For fifteen years, I've scalped tickets to
pay the bills. But in January twenty sixteen, I almost
managed a real career. I was thirty one. I've been
in Los Angeles for five years writing scripts. There had
been minor successes, a couple of small projects optioned, and

(07:47):
had recently started writing with my best friend. We were
writing constantly, making each other better, building momentum. Success fell
close back then it always did. It looks like they're
just like telling.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Us, you're just grounding it in an actual anecdote, which
which is useful.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I think, yeah, yeah. So we'd written a pilot script
that a veteran showrunner had agreed in a very theoretical,
very Hollywood sort of way to come on to. That
project had fizzled, so we were surprised when an executive
emailed us out of the blue to meet. The showrunner
explained he'd submitted us for an upcoming writers room he

(08:25):
was going to run. The exec had loved our pilot
and wanted to hire us. This was it our moment,
the moment our careers were supposed to take off. We'd
put in our time. I'd been tutoring SATs and reselling
tickets to make ends meet while I wrote, and five
years seemed part for the course based on the slightly
older guys we knew who had made it. But of
course by twenty sixteen, we were already too late.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
The show runner emailed us back apologetically. I had initially
thought I might be able to bring you guys on,
he wrote, but in the end it wasn't possible.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's interesting how all of these like the time really
starts coinciding. You notice that, like it it's.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Twenty seventy sixteen, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
But it was twenty fourteen where this stuff. You get
further into the article where they describe how this stuff's
really started to ramp up, and I just find it
fascinating how that coincides with Gamergate guys were true Gamergate
guys were tracking some real seismic shifts in the culture. Unfortunately,

(09:33):
they just went ahead and did whatever the hell they
were gonna do. So continue, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
The show outer emailed us that art of that. I'm sorry.
We met you with the executive anyway, a gen x
white guy who told us how much he loved our pilot.
But the writer's room was small, he explained, apologetically, and
the higher level writers were all white men. They couldn't
have an all white male room. Maybe if the show
got another season, they'd be able to bring us on.
They never did. The doors seemed to close everywhere and

(10:05):
all at once. In twenty eleven, the year I moved
to Los Angeles, white men were forty eight percent of
lower level TV writers. By twenty twenty four, they only
accounted for about eleven point nine percent. The Atlantic's editorial
staff went from fifty three percent mail and eighty nine
percent white in twenty thirteen to thirty six percent male
and sixty six percent white in twenty twenty four. The

(10:28):
white men fell from thirty nine percent of ten year
track positions in the humanities at Harvard in twenty fourteen
to eighteen percent in twenty twenty three. In retrospect, twenty
fourteen was the hinge, the year DEI became institutionalized across
American life.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
It's almost like it was. And again the gamer Gate people,
they picked up on it. They saw they I don't
know that was when the waters were receding, and they
picked up on that as the tsunami came in, you know,
and it's it's just it's just really interesting to me
how all of these times are lining up, and I'm

(11:07):
wondering if there's something going on in the background that's
pushing this, something that that coincided on twenty fourteen. Maybe
it was like maybe that was the apocalypse that was
promised in twenty twelve, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
A little bit. It was just a late apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
It was a late apocalypse. Yeah, I was just building
up steam and we.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Didn't even think. I think this is actually no, I
think this is actually older than twenty fourteen. I just
think that the Internet allowed it to accelerate. That's what
I think that this because this is I don't know
if they're going to say it in this article. I
have some of the some of the central arguments, but

(11:56):
I feel like that this is obviously a product of feminism,
Like that's that's what this is a product of. Yes,
And I think that in twenty sixteen we got the
first hints of the me too movement. It was it
wasn't called that yet, but this was like building you know.
So it was the gamer Gate, but it was also

(12:18):
me too and like a lot of the on let's say,
the online social media feminist activism. That's that's what I'm
I'm trying to get at. That's what made that's what blew.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Up, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, do the next paragraph?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
All right? In industry after industry gatekeepers promised extra consideration
to anyone who wasn't a white man, and then provided
just that with every announcement of promotions. There was a
desire to put extra emphasis on gender or race, a
former management consultant recalled, and when you don't fall into

(12:52):
these groups, that message gets louder and louder and gains
more and more emphasis. On the one hand, you want
to celebrate people who have in at a disadvantage. On
the other hand, you look and you say, wow, the
world is not rooting for you. In fact, it's deliberately
rooting against you. Yes, and it is like legitimately institutional

(13:13):
systemic discrimination against men in particular, but also white men.
But not just white men. I mean, like they say
it as white men, but at the end of the day,
it's gonna be just men. And a lot of the
people who push this stuff were actually women of color anyway.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, but the thing is, what's interesting about DEI is
it's disproportionately benefiting white women more than anyone interestingly enough,
do you know that as if based on the statistics.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean maybe, but it doesn't matter. Like women in
color started it, they push it, they still stand by
it or brown women and black women, even if it
just so happens that white women better. I don't think
that it's like their intention and they don't care because
as long as men are getting screwed, it doesn't matter.
Like the sisterhood trumps all at the end of the day.

(14:09):
So like I wouldn't I wouldn't be taking any joy
in learning that white women secretly got black women to
turn on their own men. I don't think that's what happened,
but it wouldn't bring me any more joy to learn that.
I think that it's, at the end of the day,
the women and not just because the thing is for me. Anyway,

(14:35):
I get a little annoyed when you see like, let's say,
or argue with saws. I see this all the time,
and like or Antifa, what Antifa was like, you know,
doing all kinds of property damage and rioting and everything.
And then what a lot of the so called anti
woke people would say is they would essentially point to

(14:56):
Antifa and say, look at how white and male they are,
as though the fact that they that they see some
photos of Antifa members and they happen to be white
and male somehow strengthens the argument against Antifa for being
like violent anarchists or whatever that are just trying to
burn everything down, and they think it's funnier because of

(15:18):
because they're fitting into this identity mold that we're supposed
to see, as you know, the like far right oppressive mold.
And I get I get the irony a little bit,
but it annoys me because I know there's a lot
of people in minority groups that are also a part
of this, and for some reason they get a pass.
And I think it's because while you know, there are
people who are fine with being called sexist and yet

(15:41):
not fine with potentially being called racist, even though the
same mentality is coming from this. And the only way
we're gonna beat it, and I mean the only way
we're gonna beat that, is to ignore all of those
narratives of essentially your anistophobe, like the istaphobia thing has
to die, like it has to die forever, and the

(16:02):
only way is for us to look at and say, look,
this is being caused by this group of people, and
I don't care like what their skin color is or whatever.
I'm looking at it as objective as possible. So in
the nineteen seventies, you had like the feminist movement, but
there was also the womanist movement, which was like the

(16:23):
black feminist movement, and it was doing its own damage.
And you know, if somebody were to say, well, you
know the I don't know, like there's a way of
like passing the buck to like white women or white people,
that I take some issue with it because I think
that they should be like black and brown women are
also adults, and they also do dumb shit, and they

(16:46):
also online. So I've been going on X and I've
made this thing that I do now where I just
scroll on X and if I see an anti male post,
and there's a lot of them, there's a lot of
angry feminist women on X. They'll just say some demeaning
shit about men, and I'll go on their profile and

(17:06):
check their location and they're all in India, Africa, East
Asia like that's or like South Asia, India, Africa, and
the Middle East, and I'll just screenshot it and share
it and just reply like that. And they're speaking in like,
you know, they're not speaking like they're foreign. Their profile
pictures and their way of speaking sounds American, so you think, oh,

(17:28):
they're just American women. Dogging on the men to get
other women on board. But a lot of them are
not American and they're not white. So that's it. That's
all I wanted to say about that.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, I mean the issue that I have is, I
think again, like I'm always going to come across come
from this from the perspective that the corruption starts between
men and women. Yeah, and the people who are initially
pushing it wherever it ended up were definitely a bunch

(17:57):
of white liberal feminists, often radical feminist separatists in the
sixties and seventies, and certainly the Declaration of Sentiments was
also was also white liberal women. So I mean, I'm
gonna call them out. Possibly what's happening here is I'm
calling out the group of people I most resemble, and
maybe Brian is calling out you know. I don't mean

(18:19):
that in like an like an identitarian way, but there's
a resistance towards not wanting to be held accountable.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I want to get I don't want to get swept
up in the racial component. I don't think it's important. Yeah,
I mean like that that goes, that goes both ways, though,
Like so yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
When I was watching that Democratic Senator. And I know
some people are saying she's Jewish, but I don't think
that really matters because she's modeling something. She is debasing
herself as a quote unquote white person, but she's doing
it because it justifies debasing boys as men and products

(19:04):
of the patriarchy. So she can say, well, I am
I'm I am taking my burden of guilt. Therefore that
justifies me pushing a burden of guilt on the boys
that I teach and have responsibility for. So it's like
it's like it's a delivery mechanism for that shaming of men.

(19:26):
But we're we are sort of we need to get
that far afield.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I know, I know, I just I'm just saying that.
I mean, I could say something about Jewish feminists that'll
get us probably banned, so I'm not going to. I'll
just leave it there. Let's let's move on.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I think they secularize the Jewish male guilt trip or
guilt complex.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah. I think, Well, when I say Jewish, I don't
mean the religion. It's like there's like the ethnic group
and then there's the religious. It's not as simple as
other religions like Muslims are not a race, despite the
fact that Ben Affleck thinks they are. Christians are not
a race either, despite the fact Hollywood wants us to
think they are. But Jews are different. They have a

(20:12):
different thing that that they're kind of it's kind of
an ethnic group. They're genetically distinct. But also it's a religion,
but a lot of them are secular, so it's not
really a religion. It's it's very confusing, and I think
that's by design. But anyway, so let's let's let's see
the next You want me to read more of the.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Article, Yeah, sure, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Okay, so we get into this twenty sixteen thing. Everything
is a mess for men, it's and that's where it started.
And again I.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Think of missing that that paragraph that you just I
think we stopped in the center finish it off because yea, yeah, thought.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. On the one hand, you want to celebrate people
who have been at a disadvantage. On the other hand,
you look and you say, wow, the world is not
rooting for you. In fact, it's deliberately rooting against you. Yes, yes,
And there's and there's a baitans, which they're too because
like whites. So we have to talk about this since
they are making it about race. To some degree, Whites

(21:08):
are a minority in the world, like globally, a global minority,
and men who are white are are a subset of
that global minority. And yet the narrative that's presented to
them that essentially puts them in a position of carrying
that guilt is the idea that they dominate everything. And

(21:28):
maybe from their perspective it looks that way because you
live in a Western country and you see people that
look like you, so you're more likely to believe that narrative.
But it's just not true.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
So anyway, also they may dominate everything, even even if
they do dominate everything, is it unearned?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm gonna say this, like when you say on celebrate
people who have been at a disadvantage. This is nonsense,
especially when it comes to women. I have looked through
the history of human endeavor, shall we say, and it
follows a specific pattern. Right, men start something, they build

(22:11):
it up until there is a risk benefit ratio that
slants more towards benefit. So they take all the risks,
they take, make all the sacrifices to build this thing up,
and then they onboard women as soon as it is
feasibly possible, right, as soon as the it's logistically possible,

(22:35):
and as soon as women do not have to bear
the risks of engaging in something that is new and different. Right. So,
if you look back through history, a lot of the
stuff that we consider to be just features of modern life,
like policing, like national borders, like trade networks, these are

(23:01):
things that men had to establish a considerable sacrifice for
themselves to basically tame land, to get rid of the marauders,
to make a safe space, to have a community, to
have a nation. Men did that, and these are all
startups throughout history. It was all startups that men engaged

(23:24):
in and cooperated to create. And then women are on
boarded when it's logistically feasible. And that's the history of
the human race. It's very simple, it's very low key,
it's very pragmatic. Why would you do that? Because you
can afford to lose ten percent of your men, Losing

(23:44):
ten percent of your fertile women's a little bit more chancy,
So that's why. And also men have a more interest
and risk taking. They're more able to tolerate risk, they're
more able to tolerate conditions, harsh conditions, they are more
likely to survive and interactions with people who are not
interested in seeing trade routes or national boundaries or being

(24:08):
policed in terms of their behaviors. So there's reasons why
men did it, and then women would be on board
and when feasible. That is the history of the human race.
There is no oppression. There is no oppression of men
by women or worry, there's no oppression of women by men. Sorry,
reverse that, yes, reverse that, there's none. And the fact
that women were excluded from things prior to men making

(24:31):
them safe for women to join is not oppression. So
there was no exclusion of women from these things. And again, yes,
sometimes there was bureaucracy in the way of bringing women in,
but that wasn't like an active inclusion, that's just cultural inertia.
But as soon as that was resolved, they were brought
in every single time, living in a nation state, enjoying

(24:57):
the protection of police, enjoying enjoying currency, enjoying credit, enjoying
bathrooms in public places. Right, all of this stuff started
by men. Women are onboarded as soon as it made sense.
That is the history of the human race. The fact
is that there is no comparison to freezing men out.

(25:21):
If you want to look at men and women in
these gestalt entities, let's do it freezing men out of
the things they created and they made available to men
to women. There is no comparison between freezing men out
of the things that they created and then subsequently made
available to women, then women freezing men out of the

(25:44):
things that they created. One is just a process, the
other is active in justice. And men need to get
pissed because this is utterly unfair and there is no comparison.
There's no celebration here. There's absolutely no celebration here because
there was no oppression to begin with. It is actually

(26:05):
a horrible thing that is being done. Men build something,
women come in, and then the men go out because
the women say, oh you, you don't belong here anymore.
That's the injustice. The original men building things and making
them safe for women to come in. That's not an injustice.
That's just pragmatism. All right. I'm just I wanted to

(26:29):
rant it. That freaking thing is its bullshit?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, okay, okay. As the Trump administration takes a chainsaw
to the diversity equity and inclusion apparatus. There's a tendency
to portray DEI as a series of well meaning but
ineffectual HR models. Undoubtedly, there has been ham ficed DEI
programming that is intrusive or even alienating, explained Kegan Chigan

(26:57):
wait Ke and Kianga Yamada Taylor in The New Yorker.
But for the most part, it is a relatively benign
practice meant to increase diversity while also sending a message
that workplaces should be fair and open to everyone. Well,
it says case closed, then we can just we can
all go home. It was it meant well, and that's

(27:17):
all that matters.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Okay, But here's here's the here's the proof in the pudding.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yamada Taylor is a just so you guys know, she's
an academic of African American studies and intersectional feminist. That's
what That's what the the was gonna say. The woman
is of the sixties and seventies brought they brought intersectionality.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
But anyway, yeah, just more excuses to shit on men.
But yeah, okay, the proof is in the pudding. Right
if this was, if they were excluded unfairly in a
system that was supposed to be about merit andnctionally was

(28:00):
really about sexism. Right, why is it that these institutions
are all universally failing? Like, really, you did this, You're
all DEI We're going to bring in all of this
merit that's been excluded. And what is happening? Burning, failing, crashing, disintegrating.

(28:22):
What the replica, the replicated replica, the replicability, replicatability, the replicatability.
I know that's the wrong way to pronounce it, but
let's go with that crisis in academia. Right, when did
that really heat up? Okay? The media is no longer
able to support itself financially. Hollywood is a burning trash

(28:46):
fire of absolute slewish drivel. Right at the animation industry,
which was also taken over in this way, it's crap.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like our cultural all of our cultural outlets, like all
of the arts are absolutely books, animation, comics, film, television,
music plays like it's all done, it's all done. And
they say movies. I didn't say movies. Movies.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Journalism, yeah, journalism's cook.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's absolute crap. And I mean, honestly, I almost think
that we should read through this whole article because it
elaborates everything, everything that we've talked about. And again, what
is the proof in the pudding all of the Are
these industries been improved by these DEI efforts? No, they
are in fact dying. Every institution that adopted this is

(29:44):
worse off. The truth is that these institutions turn their
talent away at the door. Yeah, men and white men,
you are the talent and you always wore.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well at the very least. It excludes like it's it's
leaving out like a tremendous a tremendous amount of potential.
And in fact, I think that one another thing that's
part of this problem is bringing in people who are
less talented but more diverse, or less able but more diverse,
actually hurts the talented people that are already there too,

(30:22):
because they become a part of the They bring down
the quality, they dilute the level of skill. Right, So
if you do have, like you know, women that know
how to do their jobs, that are good at writing
or directing, but they're working with women who don't because
and they're there because diversity, then even the competent women
are gonna become less effective. You know, It's like being

(30:43):
in a team where you're you're Michael Jordan and everybody
else is like the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know, I don't know if that's okay, let'll be qualified.
You're right, because what really happened is that they took
a meritocratic system. Yeah, it had its problems, it had nepotism,
it had its casting couch, which incidentally would help bolster
women's careers over men's. But regardless, you know, it had

(31:09):
its problems, but it was meritocratic, and obviously so since
everything is a flaming ruin now, and they replaced it
with something that basically is nepotistic and politically driven. So
people have to tap dance out the woke dance in
order to even be considered. And when you select for

(31:33):
political adherents and sophistry, you get crap.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well, I mean, DEI is inherently nepotistic because you're basically
showing up and getting like a position based on nothing
to do with your ability, or at least not much.
Just like, hey, I'm do you have any disabled Asian
lesbians in there? Nowell, you're gonna have to hire me
because you have one. And it's it's all, It's like, uh,

(32:02):
it's it's worse than I know the guy and like
my you know, my dad is your boss kind of
a thing. I mean that's bad, but like, yeah, this
is worse because you can get more people that are
less talented. But anyway, yeah, I got I got a
rumble rant and a super chow Oh cool. Oh yeah,
rumble rant from Nova fan twenty one who gives a

(32:23):
dollar and says, feel free to correct me. But I
heard in the nineties and in the two thousands there
was a similar feminist discrimination in the tech world that
made it unfair for men to hold a job in tech.
There probably was. They probably called it something else. I mean,
we we've had de I forever called it affirmative action.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
So yeah, exactly, it's it's always been there, and even
before then, it's it's had a less codified version, which
is simply the heat. It's just a human instinct. Men
men colonize something and they bring women on board. That's
like it's like continuous throughout our our history, the men

(33:04):
doing this, from settling the West to whatever Rome did
in the you know, the first during its founding, you know,
the Savine women and stuff. It's always men going out
hunting the masted on making the the it's safe, and
then women come in and they enjoy the benefits. And

(33:25):
we've just codified that with words like affirmative action and
DEI and then we've we've we've tried to politically justify
it by including minority groups who have been in some
ways disadvantaged, right, but it ultimately the instinct is to
benefit women, and that is who this benefits most, because

(33:47):
when you get rid of men white men, eventually you
get rid of all of the men who are the
white men of their category, like black men who are
the white men of black people, and game who are
the straight, straight white men gay people. Yeah, it's absurd,
but you'd see that's the logic. That's the logic they use.

(34:10):
So once they get rid of all the white men,
they're gonna start winnowing it down further and further, Like
right now you can maybe leverage being Asian or being
black as a man, or being gay as a man
into certain positions. They're gonna get rid of that too.
They're just gonna continue to use this rhetoric to just

(34:31):
outright discriminate against the penis people.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Well that that, yeah, and that's one of the reasons
why they go after white men because there's a lot
of non white men that'll be like, well, it's not
they're not coming after me, you know, or they'll even
feel a sense of like satisfaction like oh yeah, we're
gonna give it to the give it to whitey. And
then when Whitey's gone, they're just gonna go after the
next group. And it's gonna be like, well, what's a
shade you know, darker than the whitey. You know, we'll

(34:57):
go after the Latinos they're basically part white. Let's just
go as the Asians. They're white adjacent, right, And it
counts on people over you know, that are concerned about
the racial component to ignore what's actually happening. And so
that that's why again, you know, all of this this isms,
the isms have to die. You know. Walt Disney made
a cartoon about isms like a long time ago and

(35:20):
how it was used to divide people, and I think
people should watch that cartoon. It came out he was
worried about communists. He wasn't an anti semi he was
anti communist. Yeah, it's not it's not help you guys
confuse the two. But anyway, like, yeah, just saying.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
All right, I was watching the New the New Fallout
and the and the female main character is like, oh,
the Communists did this. I'm like, wow, I've never seen
such an like making the Communists the enemy.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
You can't mess with that. Yeah, like the Chinese. I mean, granted,
I think I don't. I don't know the fall Out
lore that well. I played Fallout three and that was it.
I was thinking about getting in the Fallout four, but
or New Vegas. But but apparently like you're you're like
a vault dweller. Maybe the Vault dwellers are really like

(36:15):
you know, they they only know what the propaganda told
them about the war. And so she is playing that
role which could still subvert like the actual plot at
some point later, because I guess they went to war
with the Chinese and that's how the nuclear thing happened.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Refreshing that it's sort of refreshing for the Commis to
occupy the.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Space, you know, IM with I want to see more
Commi villains. Yeah, I'm kind of burned out on Nazis guys.
I mean they're really well dressed, you know, they know
how to bring bring the outfit together. But I see
them everywhere. It's a little and the word's been overused.
Let's see, you know some Communists maybe some I don't know,
like some huns, like something obscure, like you know, something

(37:00):
we haven't seen before. Some you know, Philistines. How about
the Philistines back? But anyway, all right, I got a
super chow from ZARANX who gives us ten dollars and says,
regarding the focus on Jewish people, I asked some before
my Twitter account was suspended, that's probably what got you
suspended if Charles Fourier was Jewish and presented my case.

(37:24):
Fourier was against Jewish people, and he preceded Karl Marx.
His sentiments that women should compete with men and that
marriage is a prison for women are exactly the foundation
of what's severely her society today. I don't care for
the Jewish people are responsible. I don't care for the
Jewish people are responsible considering a very real path of
operation women are following and have been since women were

(37:47):
tricked by Rosie the Riveter. It's hard enough contending with
women operating in such a way that they gave up
areas they dominated to fail even when they received the
special treatment they demanded. Throwing in seemingly anti Semitic stuff
is making a different set of demands. Many will love
to give us defeat. But at the end of the day,
and I've said this myself too, let's just say, for

(38:11):
the sake of argument, that the Jews did everything that
people claim that they did. Let's say that they completely
They created porn, They they created booze and drugs, and
and they blamed it all on white people, and they
like you know, sowed propaganda, control the media. All of that.
Let's say, for the sake of argument, all of it
is true. We still, as as you know, individuals, make

(38:32):
choices what we support and believe and not. So like,
even if all of that is true, if women go
along with it, or if men go along with it,
then they are culpable for going along with it. So
we still get to say no, no more, especially if
you like learn like where it comes from or not.
It doesn't matter where it comes from, it matters what
the behavior is. Like this is, these are the ideas,

(38:53):
these are values, you know, avoid these.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I think how it comes down to, how do you
fix it? If there was a corruption in the relationship
between men and women, it doesn't matter who did it,
it's who perpetuates it, who internalizes it, and who makes
it part of their life, and that has to change.
And the thing is that, like I mean, Seneca falls

(39:16):
the Declaration of Sentiments, did the Jews do that too?
You know?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I even if they did, what matters is that everyone
who came after, whether they were Jew or gentile, they
followed suit and they went along with the narrative. So like,
it doesn't matter where the root is. What matters is
what where do we stop it?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Right? Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Like I had a guest. I had a guest on
my show a while back, and they were they were
like game developers, and they were talking about like where
they thought the problems came from. And they said, well,
I don't like all the women blaming. And they were
trying to get me to say it's the Jews, and

(39:58):
I said, well, look, even if it's it's true, women
are going along with it. So like, what are you
going to do. It's like saying, well, Lyndon Johnson is
the reason why we're in bad shape, Well we can't
go dig him up and like wag a finger at
him because he created the welfare state. But we can
tell the people who are currently trying to use the
welfare state to stop using it or to find a
better way. That's what I'm saying, right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
The way of feeling like you're taking responsibility while taking none.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah. And I think people like they want to have
any kind of scapegoat and I think it's just not productive,
Like I think that you know, and again I'm open
to it being true, but I don't think it's productive
to simply scapegoat and not like say, okay, now where
do we go from here?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
You know? Yeah, sure enough. But I'm I'm quite happy
to blame women.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
No, I'm okare of blaming women for things that they do.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yes, I just want to point out that I want
to ask men, who are the people who actually destroy
your lives? Yeah? Is it really the Jews?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
A Jew that you had children with and they took
your children away? Is it a Jew that got promoted
over you in uh in in. I don't know, academia
or media or any are they the ones really?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
You know?

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Is it is it a Jew who falsely accused you?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah? At some point of some kind of at some
point you have to like, you know, the buck stops somewhere.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, the buck stocks somewhere, and it's the place where
nobody wants to go. What a surprise. Okay, let's let's
do a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
All right, all right, so anyway, uh so, but for
the most part, yeah, but benign I pactice. This may
be how boomer and Gen X white men experienced DEI,
but for white male millennials, DEI wasn't a gentle rebalancing.
It was a profound shift in how power and prestige
were distributed. Yeah. Yeah, practically none of the thousands of

(41:54):
articles and think pieces about diversity have considered the issue
by Cohort.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Well, because that's where the rubber met the road, that's
where the policies started to really be instituted. Okay, And ultimately,
this article I think edges towards blaming general gen.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Z and Boomers. Yeah, I think that. I think that
with as a gen x er, I think that we
were as much uh you know, blinded by the the
sort of narratives of at least ginocentrism, right, I mean
definitely ginocentrism and romantic chivalry, because it was it was everywhere,

(42:34):
it was ubiquitous, and that that comes with a in
you know, like a drive or like a push to
prioritize women's safety and comfort over men's.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
So yeah, well, well here's the thing. The Boomer and
gen Z gen gen Z or gen X men, they
were part of building all of these things, okay, and
then they built the risks were taken, the tropes were erected,
like there was all all everything was made safe, and

(43:10):
then women were on boarded in the millennial and gen
Z generation. And that's that's basically what it was. Those
men built all of this and now it was time
to bring on the women and they did and gen
Z and uh millennial men were squeezed out. And it's
not it's like and it's not really those men that

(43:32):
are responsible. It's not Boomer and X gen X men
who are really responsible. It's the march of feminism through
the institutions and the capture of feminism of the academic
engine of understanding society through the relationship between men and women.
That's what was picking at. That was that was the

(43:55):
salt water corroding the the foundation, right, just just just
slowly dripping in and destroying it and making it crumble.
That's where it came from right and again, like Brian
was saying, I don't think boomer, I mean know, I'm
probably boomer. Men thought they were doing the right thing,
and Jen's X just you know, gone along to get

(44:17):
along and uh, you know and that and so yeah,
they could have stopped it. But at that point, and
a lot of during all of this, if they had
tried to stop it, they would have been that guy
during a time when they could have lost a lot.
And what's interesting about this particular article is at some
point the millennial men and the gen Z men, they

(44:39):
don't want to they don't want to make their they
don't want to tie their name to what they're saying
because they don't want to be that guy. Well, it's
exactly the same with previous generations of men, except previous
generations of men had something to lose, Like they had
a job to lose in the creative industries or in
media or in academia. They had something to lose, and

(45:00):
that job was probably supporting a family. You guys don't,
and you're still playing the I don't want to be
that guy game, Like, have some sympathy if you're going
to be someone who says, well, I don't want to
put my face out there because I want to be
that guy. And you don't even have a career in
this industry that you're cowtowing to, and you're sucking up
to by towing the Bardi line. Have some sympathy for

(45:23):
the generations of men before you who had to do
this to keep a job they actually had and that
people relied on them for having. Right, And I know
that I'm being pointed here, but it really bogs me
when men start to do this thing again where they
start to blame other groups of men. It's not other

(45:45):
groups of men. It is the women in feminist academia
that constructed this entire corrosive narrative that ate at the
foundations of all of these institutions. And then it just
blew out and that it was, you know, twenty fourteen
was when it all collapsed or started to collapse, right.
And it's like, and if you are going to be like,

(46:07):
I don't want to be that guy and you don't
even have a career in these industries to save, then again,
what do you think the boomer men and the gen
x men were dealing with? Right? It takes this a
very special person to be like, fuck it, I'm gonna
say whatever I want and so be if that is,
if it lands me any particular where, then I'll just

(46:29):
build from where I land. And most men don't have
that courage. Most people don't have that courage anyway. I
just wanted to point that out there. I know it's
a little bit more condemning, but.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
No, it's fine, it's fine. I mean, I think that
the other thing too, is that the boomermen, but they
were around for the whole like civil rights thing, which
included the feminist movement. It probably co opted by night
and I think they had a lot of guilt. And
I think that the they were the hippies too, so
they were trying to change change everything that you know,

(47:09):
they were convinced because remember, like during the time of
Gen X and the Boomers, there was no alternative forms
of like alternative ways of getting information. You got all
your information from the same place. You got it from
the TV, you got it from you know, the newspaper,
and all of those outlets were already like more or
less on the side of whatever the zeitgeist was, so

(47:31):
you just sort of went along with it. That's why
I say, you know, like gen Xers were definitely you know,
swept up in the romantic chivalry thing because it wasn't
a time of war, the Cold War, but like, you know,
I didn't even know what that was about. I mean
as because I was just distracted, you know. And I
think that one of the reasons why I believe the

(47:54):
Boomers and gen Xers went along with it too, was
because they didn't think that it would become this. They
thought that there would be gratitude, you know, there would
be gratitude and some utopian equality thing like oh, this
is so great. And they didn't think that women were
going to vindictively exclude men as a result, like to

(48:16):
you know, in order to correct to correct history, as
it were, and that I think that it caught a
lot of guys in my generation off guard.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Basically, what women did is you know, those those those
survival horror movies, and and you have your your cadre
that's trying to fight against the zombies and you see
want somebody on the side of the road and there,
and then the cynical dude is like, don't don't stop,
just keep going forget it. Fuck them, and then you

(48:45):
pull over to let the woman in and she shoves
you out of the car and takes over the wheel.
That's what feminists did. And it is about as justified
and moral and righteous as that men pulled over to
let them on and they shoved men out. It is.

(49:09):
And the fact that anybody thinks that this was something
other than an incredible injustice, especially the way it was framed,
especially the way it was framed, mm hm, get pissed,
and just one other thing, like I I will say
that it is really unfortunate the mess that gen Z

(49:34):
and the millennials have inherited. And this is amorking mess,
you know, And it's unfortunate that the boomers and the
gen Z and the gen X men didn't stop it.
But again, pressures on them, and they should have, but
they didn't have the language to explain what women were

(49:55):
doing and how annihilated it.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Again, they assumed that women were like that it was
gonna be something that would benefit them. It was like
the the It was an act in the hopes that
there was going to be some like loving you know,
return like pay it forward type of thing like That's yeah,
I think they were it was naive, but I think

(50:18):
that's what they thought.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And then and then the woman nation attacked. Yeah, well
caxt paer.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
All right, so that's how Yeah, so when Boomer and
gen X, this isn't a story about all white men.
It's a story about white male millennials in professional America,
about those who stayed and who mostly stayed quiet the
same identity, a decade apartment, entirely different professional fates. If
you were forty and twenty fourteen, born in nineteen seventy four,

(50:54):
beginning your career in the late nineties, you're already established.
If you were thirty and twenty fourteen, you hit the wall.
Because the mandates that diversify didn't fall on older white men,
who in many cases still wield enormous power. They landed
on us. See that there's the bullshit right there. Yeah,
like you are seeding ground by saying that this is

(51:15):
the land acknowledgment thing that I keep seeing, this is
the land acknowledgement. Well, we white guys didn't have a
lot of power, you know. I heard Louis c k
do a bit on it.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, Okay, you built something and you had power over it. Wow,
that's so unjust. Yeah, And honestly, what really killed all
this is the feminists went to war against male mentorship
of other men and that kind of fraternal brotherhood around

(51:48):
these institutions that built these institutions. Okay, and this doesn't help,
Like this is just more of the same that destroyed it.
And nobody wants to say this that men's ability to
cooperate with an external goal is what builds these things.
These are the startups that I keep talking about through
all of human history. Men build these things together because

(52:10):
they have this phenomenal ability to cooperate that that even
exceeds women's ability to cooperate magnitudes. I'm sorry, guys, it's
just true. Women don't cooperate very well. No, they can,
I don't know, consolidate power over men, and they can

(52:31):
distribute stuff, but they don't cooperate very well. Men cooperate
extremely well, and they build stuff like this, and feminism
went to war against male cooperation, called it some kind
of toxic sludge that leaks into society from the toxic
spill that's patriarchy, and they destroyed it. So now there

(52:53):
is no mom It's not just that there's all these
institutional prerogative to prerogatives to bring in on unrepresented minorities
and women. It's also that they actively destroyed male mentorship,
call it old boys club. And what has happened as
a result of this. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

(53:15):
I'm not gonna shut up about this anymore. What has
happened as a result of all of feminism's actions to
destroy mentorship between men, brotherhood between men, old boys network,
whatever else. What has happened to all of our institutions
that have now been governed by feminist initiatives and feminist
beliefs about the relationship between men and women and feminist

(53:38):
beliefs about controlling men. What has happened to them? They
have all gone to shit. The proof is in the pudding,
and I am not freaking shutting up about it.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Okay, yep, all right, So this is a really long article.
I do have some like I don't know about, like
if you want to me, just keep reading the whole thing,
or I have like five central arguments that were made
in this because there's also still the flowchart to look at,

(54:12):
and are the advice that you were going to give.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, sure, let's do that. Then let's go through the flow.
Let's go through the five central arguments.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Okay, so we covered one of the ones I had
was that in twenty fourteen that marked a pivotal institutionalization
of DEI policies that systemically reduced opportunities for white male millennials.
Right then the other part another argument is a DEI
driven hiring and media explicitly prioritized non white male candidates,

(54:43):
often openly excluding white men verbatim. Quote from this article
of verbatim, it was given that we weren't going to
hire the best person. It was jarring how we would
talk about excluding white guys, attributed to a senior hiring
editor at a major outlet. And there's some examples. Twenty

(55:09):
one hires at Conde NAS was only twenty five percent
male and only forty nine percent white. So they're twenty
five percent male, which means they were hiring not just
non white people, but they were also hiring women. California
Times thirty nine percent male, thirty one percent white. Digitay

(55:29):
Publisher Statistics Pro Publica sixty six percent women, fifty eight
percent people of color in twenty twenty one hires NPR
WOW seventy eight percent new hires people of color and women.
It's not broken down by gender, but I'm guessing it's
probably mostly women. The Atlantic Post twenty twenty highers nearly

(55:53):
two thirds women, nearly fifty percent people of color, nearly
two thirds women. This is everywhere. When we talked about
the animation in the street too, there are specific unions
that are formed with the explicit purpose of altering the
hiring practices of companies. So there was like this group,
I can look it up again. It was called Women

(56:14):
in Animation. I brought on Luke while back to talk
about it, and they had a goal. It was like
fifty fifty by twenty thirty or something like that, where
they were going to have fifty percent women in every
position like a showrunners, animators, artists, whatever, by the year
twenty thirty. Maybe it was even sort of than that,
and I think they've long surpassed that, Like I think

(56:36):
it's mostly women now there. And of course, because it's
a union, it can like apply a lot of pressure
to employers to actually do that. So that was that
was another thing. I don't know if you wanted to
say anything about that, And.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah, women in Animation, Yeah, well, okay, well I can
look at the statistics here. I don't know, I think
you just covered media in journalism academia, which is what
we're talking about. This is across the board everywhere. White
men's tenure track positions in the humanities at Harvard felled
from thirty nine percent in twenty fourteen to eighteen percent

(57:11):
in twenty twenty three. And what I want you guys
to notice is that across the board, the big changes
are between how many men versus how many women. White
men were fifty five percent of Harvard's arts and sciences faculty,
but only twenty seven percent of tenure track positions in
two thousand twenty four. You see Berkeley's white male hires

(57:37):
drop from fifty two point seven percent in twenty fifteen
to twenty one point five in twenty twenty three. Now
they're not they're just getting rid of white men, they're
not actually replacing them that much with men of other
other ethnicities. You see Irvine and you see Santa Cruz
had hired very few white men for tenor track positions

(57:59):
four point seven and three percent, respectively. BROWNI You've Reiversity
hired only three white American men out of fifty four
sorry forty five ten year track professors professors since twenty
twenty two, right, so that's six percent. So it's like,
this is this is basically pushing men out of academia right,

(58:22):
just completely. And this is I mean, we could probably
segue into looking at that flow chart and talk about that.
I would recommend reading the article. It is example after
example after example after example of men being frozen out
of these careers. And of course, as we all know,
they're being frozen out and for some reason, all of

(58:45):
these industries and institutions and organizations are cratering, they're becoming
far worse. And let's let's just let's look at the
flow chart and we'll talk through that.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Well, I want to I want to add something else
to which is the effects of this, and I have
another another bit from the article, so the broader exclusion.
So what this is leading to is essentially a tremendous
imbalance in not just like the job opportunities because they're
prioritizing women, uh and people of color, but like women
largely over men, and they're all they're doing in education

(59:21):
as well. What this is doing is it's it's creating,
it's leading to personal stagnation and delayed life milestones for
men and without them pivoting successfully into other fields. The
quote from here says, it's taking a toll on this
Ethan person, who's one of the anecdotes. It's taking a
toll on Ethan's personal life. He's been with his partner

(59:43):
for seven years, but they've spent much of that time
treading water. They want kids, but without the financial security
of a ten year track position, it's daunting. Referring to Ethan,
who's who's in academia, White men in in medicine have
dropped dropped from thirty one percent from thirty one percent
in twenty fourteen to twenty percent in twenty twenty five,

(01:00:07):
so that white men in medical as medical students was
already like below half in twenty fourteen, and it dropped
even lower. Law school metriculence dropped for men from thirty
one percent in twenty sixteen to twenty five percent in
twenty twenty four. The Google workforce white men went from

(01:00:28):
nearly half in twenty fourteen to less than a third
in twenty twenty four. Amazon mid level managers went from
fifty five percent white males to thirty three percent, and
so on. And so the reason why this is a
big problem is because while men's opportunities have stagnated or
dropped or have been basically like blockaded and gate kept

(01:00:52):
by this wok ideology. Essentially, the women's preferences and what
they want in men hasn't changed. So women are looking
for men that don't exist because the men don't have
the same prospects because the women have been given the
men those prospects. And I would bet you if you
ask women, hey, why can't you find a good man,

(01:01:14):
and you tell them, well, here's all the things that
we put into place to support women, there would probably
be a not insignificant number of women who would say,
why haven't men capitalized on their privilege to get a
better job so that I can find a good man?
Essentially still doubling down on the privilege aspect, which I
think a lot of women are brought into, if not
most of them, now definitely most of them, without considering

(01:01:38):
that all of the advantages that they have been given
has essentially put men in a position where they can't
find someone and women are not going to I'm sorry,
They're not going to become breadwinners for men in most cases.
So this is going to be a problem for forming
families as well, yep, it is not just the affordability thing,
which I know everyone's talking about right now. It's us

(01:02:00):
the fact that men can't find a woman who will
take them as they are because there's you know, like
because they're not making enough and women care about that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah, Well the biggest, one of the biggest uh factors
for a man to become to be married is income,
and one of the biggest factors for a man to
be divorced is a loss of job around the world, So, yeah,
women haven't stepped up and actually changed their attitudes towards
what they want in a partner while squeezing men out

(01:02:35):
of the positions that would have given them access to
what women want in a partner. It's it's remarkable, is it.
And also in shittifying all of the things that switched
over to these DEI initiatives. Yeah, okay, so are you

(01:02:56):
are you completed?

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I'm done? That's that's it, all right, Let's get the
flow chart then.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah, also get the flow chart. So this basically this
flow chart is for young men thinking about college, right,
don't like the very first thing is don't they're gonna
take your money, They're gonna leave you with a debt,
and you're most likely gonna have agree a degree that
you can't get employed with because you are being actively

(01:03:22):
discriminated against as a man with a college degree, specifically
a man with a college degree. And the reason why
you're being discriminated against is because they're trying to give
all of those opportunities to women and minorities. And this
is just this is just reality. This isn't red pill rage,

(01:03:45):
this isn't evil man a sphere. This is literally what
they said they were going to do and they have
done it. And this is the reality that gen Z
and millennial men live with right now. So we might
as well, you know, and yes, get mad because this
is manifestly unfair, but also get pragmatic and look at

(01:04:09):
what you can do to improve your life and make
sure you don't fall into these pitfalls. Right if you're
currently in education, this might be of benefit. Maybe you
can do some lateral moves. If you are thinking about education,
definitely listen to what we're saying, because really, all you're
going to do is hand twenty five to thirty thousand

(01:04:33):
dollars to the nearest feminist professor who is then going
to turn it around and make up more male bashing
crap with it. That's what these institutions are doing. That
is that this is their primary output at this point.
That and will basically taking money from you for degrees

(01:04:54):
that are worthless, especially like in particular if you're a man.
So let's let's let's take a look. Let's take a
look at this. I'm ready, all right, your body is prepared,
is it okay?

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Alright? So thinking about college? I guess I'll get you
to scroll there. All right, So you're young man thinking
about college right before you even consider this, there's another
something to think about, and that is the culture on
college campuses. Right right now, women on college campuses are

(01:05:32):
more dangerous than any other group of women in society.
That is because they have access to kangaroo courts that
seem to regard evidence of innocence to be some kind
of ideological sin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Fortunately, I don't know if he's still operating, but there
used to be someone I forget his name, but he
did a website called Falsely Accused Students are Falsely Accused,
and he would track the lawsuits related to men who
had been falsely accused on college campuses and the egregious
failures of due process. So essentially, on a college campus,

(01:06:14):
the women are the most dangerous they are in society
because they are weaponized by these star courts that will
presume you guilty, right, and they'll even presume you guilty
when her own statements indicate you were the one who
was raped. Remember that case. Yeah, I mounted John Doe

(01:06:39):
while he was unconscious in the coatroom, and afterwards I
was contemplating how I didn't really want it out. You go,
and you got a black mark on your academic record,
Try getting into another school. Right, don't fuck with these girls.
They are landmines. So if you're if you're wanting to

(01:07:01):
deal with that, if you want to deal with that,
then we'll go further. So thinking about college, is an
employer or the military paying one hundred percent of your
tuition and fees. If that's the case, go ahead and go.
You're not taking the risk and somebody is going to
give you a job at the end. I mean maybe

(01:07:23):
maybe not if you're going in the military, maybe you
we'll get a job in the military. But if a
business is paying for you to go, obviously they consider
you an asset and they want to develop you for
a job, Go ahead and go. Someone else is footing
the bill. It's not your risk, and that's probably the
only reason to go. The only reason to go into

(01:07:43):
education if is somebody, if your employer, is paying for it.
But if that's not the case, let's let's go down
a bit and look at the Look at the know
on that decision tree. There you go. We're going to know. So, yes,
you are being paid to learn, perceive, but choose ruthlessly
practical fields to go down no warning. You are about

(01:08:08):
to self fund a risky, politicized product that often fails
to deliver for men. Look at that, think very carefully
about it. Not only are you going to be going
to be going into something that you may not find
any benefit for, but you are going to be funding

(01:08:28):
the people who are constructing this nightmare. All right, So
you still want to do that even after that warning.
Let's continue, all right, And just a note on where
we're going next. The way that I looked at this
is I looked at what the unique value propositions that
men offer society, and so what you have that's uniquely

(01:08:53):
a result of your masculinity or being a man, nobody
else can acknowledge this stuff. Even conservative have a problem
with it because it means that we're not blowing glitter
up the asses of women. But you, as a young man,
do have value propositions, and you should think carefully of
where you apply them for your own benefit. Now, if

(01:09:15):
you're looking at this and you're saying, you know what
quiet quitting is for me, good for you. Quiet quit
disappear out of this society because you don't owe them
a damn fucking thing. You don't owe anyone in this
society a damn fucking thing. And if that quiet quitting
is your thing, do it. Find a simple job, batten

(01:09:36):
down the hatches, get a bachelor apartment, live your life,
enjoy your hobbies. Do it. I am not telling you
to go and be part of the system, but if
you insist on it, right, use your advantages to your
own advantage. I'm gonna tell you what the advantages that

(01:09:58):
men have. You are better at math, full stop. You
are better at geometry full stop. One. In fact, you
are hilariously better than women. I want to can you
pull up the uh that one link that the cognitive Yeah, yeah,

(01:10:21):
it's still divide sexes. It's I'm gonna I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Gonna covered a while back. I remember the topical, right,
So it's the cognitive puzzle. Yeah, so this is puzzle
that just still divides the sexes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Right, Okay, go down and let's let's look at the
cognitive puzzle. This is a puzzle that many women who
go to college fail, something like, yes, that one you
see this? You got two glasses. One, well, you have
two things. A is a glass that is about, you know,

(01:10:59):
maybe two fifth full of water, all right, And B
is they're asking you to indicate with a line where
the water level would be if you tilt the glass.
Women fail this. Women going to college fail this. All right,

(01:11:20):
So take a moment and think about that. You have
vastly superior spatial and mathematical intelligence. Lean into it. If
you know any young men who are in middle school
or higher, tell them to start learning math, eating up
as much math as they can. Lean into that. The

(01:11:40):
other thing you have physically stronger.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
It is a absolute joke. Every time I hear women say,
oh my god, we could go tee to toe, it's
social bullshit. Men are physically stronger, and it's an absolute joke.
The difference, right, you are physically stronger. You are also
more capable of dealing with risk. Now, this would have
been great for men going into creative endeavors and creating

(01:12:04):
all kinds of new things, but of course we can't
do that anymore. All of those things are being taken
over by women so that they can create their damn
fanfic and shitty art. Right, But you are much more
risk taking, okay. You also are much more tolerant of
extremes of weather, mechanically inclined, much better at solving mechanical problems.

(01:12:28):
So at this point in time, all of these things
sort of aim towards the trades and infrastructure jobs, and
those jobs are not going to be They're not going
to be automated and turned into AI anytime soon. Because
I have worked with AI. It is a bullshit art
artist par excellence. You can't vibe code the electrical grid.

(01:12:50):
And if they do, I hope that is the end
of Western I hope that everybody rises up in the
Civil war, because that's going to be such a shit show.
All right, go back to go back to the back
to the flow chart. All right, So what I'm what
I'm counseling you on is to Lean into your strengths
as a man, Learn what they are Forget all of

(01:13:10):
this bullshit about how everybody's equal. But of course women
have all the all the good things and men have
all the bad things. Right, women are girls or sugar spice,
and boys or puppy dog. Lean into what your benefits
as a man, what you value proposition that you have
all right, do you have clear proof of strong quantitative ability?

(01:13:32):
So when you're deciding to go into go into the
going to advanced education, are you actually in like the
top ten percentile for mathematical ability? Are you actually up there?
And probably also verbal because you're gonna have to be
able to write things and bullshit your way through some

(01:13:53):
humanities courses. If you take an undergraduate and science for example, right,
make sure you're in the top. Otherwise, don't bother. Go
find something else, Go create a either go into the trades,
go into infrastructure jobs, or start a business. Right, go

(01:14:13):
into those things. Those things will make sense, all right,
So do you have a queer proof of strong qualitative ability?
Go down, We're going to know right down the right
over a little bit, Okay, skip university, look at trades, apprenticeships,
high commission sales or starting a business. Sales are good
for men because of the aforementioned risk. You're you're more

(01:14:37):
you're more willing to gamble. Okay, move over a bit
so we can see the other than the yes tree. Okay,
are you willing to do five to ten years of
hard technical work or research? So you're thinking about this, Okay, yes,
I'm in the top ten percent and I'm willing to
do five to ten years of hard work. And here's

(01:14:58):
the thing. Don't go to college because you want a party,
that is, don't do it. Go to college and treat
it like a job if possible. Live off the campus,
do not interact with the women, no offense, like they're
very dangerous at this point. Go there and focus on

(01:15:21):
making this your career. Okay, if you're willing to sacrifice that,
because the thing is, you don't want to stop with
a bachelor's. The bachelors is useless, right, but if you
get to a master's you could end up being employed
in a business sense. So let's see. Yes, Okay, go down,

(01:15:46):
all right, Yes, I should probably control this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
No, got it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Yeah? Okay, Okay, if you cannot handle five to ten
years of concentrated study, that will get you a master's.
Go to shorter and applied paths only two to three
year programs and trades, engineering, tech, business, coding, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Right, go back up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
We got to go back to yes, So, yes, you
can handle that. Can you finish a bachelor's with under
twenty k total debt? Right? You want to minimize your debt?
So do you have family helping you? Do you have scholarships? Well,
good luck with that. Right you're a white man or
even a minority man, good luck getting scholarships. But can
you finish it under twenty thousand in debt? Because you

(01:16:33):
got to think about that. You're gonna have to pay
this back, which means you're going to have to have
a job at the end of it. I mean that
at that point, not having the debt makes a lot
more sense. So let's go down. But let's say no warning,
do not enroll. For most men, high debt plus today's

(01:16:53):
labor market equals a bad deal. So if you're not
having help with your tuition, roll right you probably you
may you may do it anyway, but don't say I
didn't warn you. Can we go over to the right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I think it is the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Other way the other way over here? Yeah, is your
intended major qualitatively requantitatively rigorous, and male tolerant. So what
that means is does it lean into your strengths as
a man mainly? Does it use a lot of math
or geometry or mechanical thinking? Okay? Does it have does

(01:17:37):
it still have over fifty percent mail? Okay? If that's
the case, then go ahead. What some examples of those?
I could probably take a I just have to. I
have a lot of documents and tabs open. Sorry, guys,
it's sometimes it's difficult to navigate through everything. Fair, Yeah, okay,

(01:17:59):
So field and aptitude considerations, okay. Cognitive research shows a
large sex difference in three D spatial visualization ability, often
measured with mental rotation texts. Men dominate the high ability
tail that feeds engineering and hard stem so, of course
engineering and hard stem business too, fields that remain relatively

(01:18:23):
safer and more rewarding for quantitatively strong men's strengths. Engineering,
computer science, cybersecurity, applied a l mL, accounting, finance, operations research,
quantitative econ economics, some applied sciences, and forensics, criminology with
clear industry pipelines. So if you do want to do

(01:18:44):
something that's more sociology adjacent. Criminology is probably a good bet.
Fields that are high risk for men in terms of
return on investment in ideological climate. Most humanities stay the
fuck away from the humanities. English generic studies may stop science,
soft social sciences, sociology, gender studies, social work, education, any

(01:19:06):
major with a majority female cohort and weak labor market,
especially at non elite institutions, So avoid and go towards
certain things. Unfortunately, if you're a guy who would would
have been like, I don't know this, this generation's Mark Twain,

(01:19:27):
you're probably not going to get anywhere in humanities, which
is really unfortunate. But we're dealing with a massive decline here,
so keep yourself safe. All right, let's go to let's
go down the tree, just down what yes, what is

(01:19:48):
your intended ceiling? Okay, so how far do you expect
to go?

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
If you're going to stop after masters, plan bachelor's in
a hard field, terminal mass if needed, exit quickly into
the private industry. You are not likely to get an
academic career, all right. So if you are, if that's fine,
You get your masters in a hard field that emphasizes

(01:20:14):
your strength as a man. And this is why you
do that because women will never really dominate those fields.
And in particular, like and this is outside the academic sphere,
women are never going to dominate line work in Saskatchewan,
for example, because it requires you to go out in

(01:20:36):
negative forty degree wind chill fixing things that could electrocute you. Right,
So there are places that women will never go sort
of focus on them. Also, incidentally, those are the places
that are least likely to be taken over by AI.
So that's the consideration as well as you know, it
sweeps through like a wave of acid in the employment

(01:20:57):
market anyway, So if you're intended calling his PhD academic
academic career go down a bit, let's like, let's take
a look at that. Go over here, Yeah, over warning
only makes sense if you're already on top of your
cohort with elite references. And even then, even then, be
prepared for stone walling, be prepared for a stalled career,

(01:21:21):
Be prepared to work a lot harder than anyone else.
Unless you're in an European college and you go over
to the States, they seem to be doing okay, europe
doesn't seem to have as much of this problem. Okay,
let's move to the to the left or right, which
I don't Okay, Yeah, that's the good. Keep going right here,
ye yep, keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Oh sorry more okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Guess waving at you is not help. Okay. Default verdict,
don't go unless all criteria are met. Okay, So what
are all the criteria? You are ready for a sustained
effort of five to ten years, and you're okay with
not making money as you do that in a in

(01:22:07):
a academic study that naturally excludes women because it uses
skills they don't have. Means a lot of mathematics, a
lot of mechanics, a lot of three D rotation. All right,
are you ready for that? Get out at a master's
get a job in industry. Right, If you want to

(01:22:27):
go for your PhD, your options are more limited because
you are going to be faced. You're going to be
going right into the lines's den the discrimination against people
like you. They aren't going to want to hire you
in academics in academia, and also there is higher levels
of discrimination on the higher level R and D research

(01:22:48):
in corporations as well. So you've got to consider that,
and it's going to you're going to end up with
one hundred thousand plus in debt and nowhere to go
that the high likelihood that that's going to happen. Okay,
don't do a bachelor's, go for your master's, get into business.
That's okay. You can probably manage it if you go
into the hard sciences, if you're ready for five to

(01:23:09):
ten years of work, putting your nose to the grindstone,
not getting into parties, not getting into the campus life,
not getting dragged into the drama, and pretty much ignoring
every woman on campus, which is difficult because you know,
women on campus tend to be what the most attractive
they'll ever be, also the most dangerous, and not just

(01:23:30):
because they're empowered by the kangaroo courts on campus.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
But also they just for what are you, college education?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
So yeah, they're getting a college education, and not just that.
For whatever reason, this coming up cohort of women is
some of the most rapey, piggish women in history. Like
my generation of women actually had more consideration for sexual

(01:23:59):
violence against men then millennial women and Gen Z women
who are incredibly sexually entitled, incredibly violent, and they're just
they're just toxic. They have toxic attitudes towards men, toxic
resentful attitudes towards men. If you want to wade into that,

(01:24:20):
I would recommend you only do so if you have
the murderous charisma of someone like Wade Wilson. Yeah, take
that for what it was, all right, So go down
a bit, Okay, Yeah, operational rules for campus survival. I
am very you know, like you could take this with

(01:24:41):
a grain of salt. Maybe you'll end up with a
bunch of women who are like really cool. And yes,
I know this isn't perfect. There's all kinds of discrimination
now in trades as well, because they're they're desperately trying
to onboard women for whatever. I don't know why we've
decided that this is the way we want to die
as a society, but they're desperately trying to onboard women

(01:25:03):
into situations where they just don't work out. I remember, Jonathan,
my husband has had to have dental surgery quite a bit,
and we have to go to a nearby city and
he and I point this out because it takes a
while for him to finish his appointments, Like his appointments
could be like four hours five hours long. So I'm

(01:25:23):
like walking around this city. It's a small city. It's
like for for an American, you probably would consider it
like a town and just walking with the dog, just
passing time. And I passed this this playground and there's
a three woman team in you know, like in the

(01:25:43):
in the reflective vest kind of thing. So there's some
kind of I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Don't know, city, Oh, you like they work on like
their road workers or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
City operatives, Like they go out and they fix things
or something. Well not that. Yeah, they're they're they're employed
by the city to to clear drains and do landscaping,
not these women, of course, but and do other stuff.
And I just sat down on a bench with the
dog and I watched them, and they wandered through the playground.

(01:26:18):
They inspected a slide. Three three women inspected a slide.
Then they sat down on a bench and a couple
of them were playing on the on the stuff and
and they were just chatting. And I'm like, what the
hell are these women doing? And then I'm like, okay,
well whatever, and I leave. There's I leave and they're

(01:26:38):
still just chatting and chumming away, and I leave and
I swear to God. Between where I park, where the
car was parked, and the dog park, which was my
ultimate aim, there were three other crews of men like
men bowing lawns, cutting bushes, clearing sewers, fixing roads, doing

(01:27:02):
doing real work. I just I was like, what are
the odds? I mean, I just went to that city
one day out of the year for no particular reason,
and this is what I see, Like, how what are
the odds that this isn't constantly happening. So, yes, they're
onboiding women into the trades and all of this stuff,

(01:27:25):
and it's unfortunate, it's unfair, but this minimizes the cost
to any guy personally. All right, So let's look at
the campus life risk management principles from all of the
horror stories that I've heard. If a man goes anyway,
he should treat campus life like a work site, not

(01:27:45):
a social playground. Live off campus where possible commute, attend leave,
keep interactions formal and professional, avoid parties, heavy alcohol, and
private situations that can feed into biased conduct processes. So
you're trying to avoid any situation where be interpreted poorly,
shall we say.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Honestly, there is like I said, these these women, these
young women, very bad sense of boundaries, very violent, very
especially assaultive. And a lot of guys will be like,
oh ah, that's a that's my that that you know,
like that, don't don't, don't threaten me with a good time.
But when I've heard men actually go through these situations,

(01:28:28):
like I'll use a use an anecdotis of a guy
who watched his friend go through this situation. So his
friend got raped, you know, at a college party by
a woman just got on him when he was passed
out drunk, not not unconscious, trunk, like not not blackout, drunk,
unconscious drunk right, his friends pulled her off, and he

(01:28:50):
described how this this man was never the same again,
couldn't trust his his academic performance went to crap, and
he eventually disappeared, and you know where they did. Men
who endure this stuff go to drugs, homelessness institutions, and
eventually death right. So this is serious stuff. And even

(01:29:11):
if you think going into it is it's not going
to affect me, consider that she could then have turned
around and got his life ruined with a sexual assault allegation,
despite the fact that she was the one engaging in
the sexual assault. That's college life, you know, and you

(01:29:32):
can you can maybe get through all of this. You can.
If you're particularly charming. It probably doesn't apply to you,
you know, but you gotta be careful, focus on coursework,
projects and off campus networks for real career value. Treat
it like a job.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
This is also really good to make sure you keep
the grades necessary to be in the top ten. All right,
So this, this is, this is what will make college
a reasonable choice. But ultimately it's not. Ultimately you're handing
money to the people who think you are slime. So

(01:30:11):
just imagine the most disgusting feminist professor and imagine giving
her twenty five to thirty thousand dollars and then spending
the rest a good portion of your life where you
may not get a job paying that off. All right, Okay,
that's that is the Those are those are the proactive
steps to take if you want to get a college degree.

(01:30:34):
I'm curious, what the what the what the chat is
thinking about all that? Uh Pencroll, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Pencroll, Yeah for sure, Yeah, Mike Pencerll Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Yeah, mine.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
No, I mean I think that I think that the
starting your own business thing is a really like worthwhile
option to explore, especially if you're already out of college.
I think that, like you need to the hell with
like these people breaking up male spaces and HR departments
and I'm just going to start my own business like it.
I don't know. I would like find some people maybe

(01:31:17):
even in the discord server or something. If you're not
in there, coordinate with or some friends, some people you
can trust and say, hey, man, you want to start
a business, because like it's the best way, you know.
I mean, where I live, a lot of guys they
have their own little things. You know, they drive a
tow truck, they do some yard you know, like some landscaping, roofing, whatever, plumbing.

(01:31:40):
I bet you can learn all that shit easily. And
just you know, I think that that starting your own
business is based on what I'm getting at. That's that's
where I would look into and partner up with some
other dudes that are all, like, you know, sick of
the same system. You probably can't find some like minded
folks exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Yeah, so there you go. Hopefully that was helpful. I
hope it wasn't too down. But honestly, the numbers are
coming in. I feel vindicated when I was telling young
men fifteen years agoing onwards, don't go into higher education.
They don't want you. They're just going to declare war
on you. And it turns out it was a gigantic

(01:32:24):
con all along. They're going to take your money and
at the end of the day, you're going to get
nothing from it. You are going to be paying the
people who are destroying your life. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah,
I think I'm good. I hope that I protect I
hope some guys take my word for it. And if

(01:32:46):
you are in academia, consider some lateral moves if you
have to. If you are going to end up having
more hard masters, that good on you. You're already probably
in the best path you could take. Okay, all right,
So I think we have enough other super chow right

(01:33:07):
or did you?

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, there was one other. Richard Bierre gave
us five and said, where are the stories about women
clamoring to be pony express writers and railroad breakemen. Also,
proper grammar is misogynistic somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Yeah, that's a lot of others.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
It's not time, it's uh misogynistic obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Everything that allows for advanced society to run is anti woman.
We all just need the vibe code everything everything. There
you go, the supremacy of the vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Vibe supremacy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Yeah, vibe lives matter.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Vibe lives matter.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Somebody said that they were going to be a vibe minor.
You know that could actually be a good source. Oh yeah,
that get you know, figure that out, figure out how
you mind vibes. Make that your saying. Okay, all right,
so I've pretty much said everything I wanted to say. Hopefully,

(01:34:17):
if you know a young man, I know that nobody
wants to actually call stuff out and be honest about
what's happening. But help him out, you know, give him
the realistic assessment of the likelihood of getting a return
on spending you know, several grant or like a couple dozen,

(01:34:39):
like a couple tens of thousands of dollars on a
actual actual like diploma or like a degree. Like give
him a rundown and tell him what he's up against.
Like one of the biggest problems with all of this
is nobody wants to take responsibility for informing everyone else
that they're walking into a freakin snake pit, because it

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Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
All right, I do have another rumble rant, and Richard
Pierre says, is the super Child coming through? Okay, I'll
just read those of course. Yeah, you guys love waiting
till the last minute. Nova fan twenty one earlier sent
a rumble rant and said, we've seen leftists in fighting
Feminists identify gay men as the straight men of the group,
and BLM called straight black men the white men of

(01:36:23):
the group. You love to see it, Yeah, well, because
of eventually, the whole thing is built on creating like
tribal grievances between groups of people so that they can't unify,
and with men in particular, because you know, men are
really good at working together. That's a really good way
to wedge the differences. You separate you know, gay from straight,

(01:36:47):
black from white and brown and different whatever. Just just
do that, and of course you use threat narratives around
women to further and enforce that. And it's pretty active.
But I think, I don't know. I see a lot
of young guys especially, they're really not having it, like
they're really sick of it. So we'll see. I don't know.

(01:37:09):
It's hard to tell how big it is, but honestly
has not come through yet. I don't know if it's
stuck in the tubes or what. Yeah, unless he thinks
I didn't read the one I read, Yeah, I don't
see and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
So I'll we've No, there isn't another one, Richard. He
read the one about the Pony Express riders. Unless you
want to get something in really quick. We've we've completed,
we have done all your tasks, sir, all right, Yeah, well,
I mean we could look at we could look at
the see if there's anything more in the chat that's
worth picking up to give sort of a did you

(01:37:45):
manage to get the the vertical working?

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
No? I couldn't get it working, but it's recording, so
I don't. I don't know. Like some I'll have to
like do a fresh like I might be able to
figure it out, but I'd have to do a fresh
restart of everything right until the show ended and then
and then look into it. It's one of these things
that once you start to know that I got, you
can't do while the stream is live.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
So I am not seeing a super chow on the
on the backhand, Richard, Are you sure it went through?
Because the last one that went through was forty nine
minutes ago, so just double check to make sure it
went through, that you clicked pay or whatever it is.
Let me see what's going on in the chat proper

(01:38:34):
grammar is white coated. Oh so many things are white
coded mm hmm yeah, and then white coded. By white coded,
we mean man coded. Do you remember that list of
all the things that are white supremacy?

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
Uh? Yeah, No, it was the Smithsonian put out that list.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Yeah, and it was basically all anything you could code
as masculine. Yep, it was white coat white supremacy. Okay,
check for Richard's I.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
Think I don't think I went through. We read it, Richard.
If you're talking about the last one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
The first one, we read it, yeah, both of them,
I think I think. Sorry, Richard, I don't see anything
on my end. Maybe maybe the voles are not just stuck,
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