Love is blind, women most affected. | Maintaining Frame 184

Bryrony Claire, like a stomach ulcer, keeps coming back for more. On today's show she will be looking at the "reality TV" show Love is Blind and using this to make a statement about reality. Because this is where we are.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, and we're live. Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey
Badger Radio. My name is Brian here with Elise and
then this is maintaining frame Wait, what's going on here?
Maintaining frame number? What number is this? One is twenty four?
Love is Blind Women Most Affected?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, and yeah, Well, essentially it's about the Love is
Blind reality TV show where I guess couples compete to
get married, to be the first to get married, or
the first for a proposal or something. Unless you can
explain the premise of it, it seems very something I

(00:39):
would never watch honestly outside of the general cultural commentary
that we make. But yeah, so today we're responding to
Byrony Claire. She has thoughts on this phenomenon, the blind Spot,
and she reflects a lot of the same thoughts of

(01:00):
a sick well an increasingly large number of women, shall
we put it that way, uh, in regards to the
relationship between men and women. So it's good to get
it out. Well. She I think she reflects what a
lot of women think about the relationship between men and women. Yeah,
Irony Claire, She's not an insignificant voice. I mean, I'm

(01:23):
an insignificant voice. Irony Claire is a very popular voice,
and others like her, like she Ra, manifest del et cetera.
So it's good to look into and see what the
more normy female opinion is and quail and abject horror
at it. So let's uh, should we just start? Let's

(01:44):
just let her, let her do her things?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Should like yeah or uh? Sure? So let me see
here in just a second.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
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(02:15):
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you want. All right, Brian, shall we watch the first Yeah?
Let us let us see what hers.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
All right? Sure, let me see here. We're looking at
the I'm just scrolling down to find the timecodes in
this massive document you sent me Oh, do you want
me to navigate it if you could tell me the timecode? Yeah,

(02:51):
I can believe the intro just to lay out the.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
All right, just just pleasantly. Everything starts with the intro, right,
because she just sort of lays out her thesis there,
So start there.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Johnny Bravo always said, Hey, they're pretty vill mama. No tattoos.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Okay, you don't put bumper stickers in this car. I'm
just all them nice guys. O.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
God, what well, this is like a singer, like a
stinger type thing for the show. So okay, wait full
context because I guess some of you guys are probably like,
what the hell is this about. There is a reality
TV show called Love Is Blind and it was basically

(03:41):
Brier Declaire got a request from her listeners to give
a reaction to this reality TV show, which is essentially
to say, you know, look at this through your intersectional
lens and give us your thoughts. So you have an
audience people who are obviously into the show. They're like

(04:02):
watching it and they're asking this woman, Brian Declaire to
give her thoughts on the show, like it's almost you
know what I think it is is they're they're asking
permission to like it, like it is it dad, that
we enjoy this because it is this is reality TV,
Like this is written for these kinds of well they're written.
It's written with women in mind. Generally, they like to

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watch the relationship dynamics, the social dynamics, you know, the
hot mess of people that they have on. It's like
pro wrestling, it's and it's just as real.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
But the thing is that I don't think many men
watch pro wrestling and try to divine secrets about anything
from No, that's really uncommon. And this is really bizarre.
We only have one person watching the the live stream. Wow,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, that's that.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, maybe they didn't see it. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's me, Like, I'm the only one watching. Interesting. Let
me just see if this is yeah, let me just
see that this is actually? Oh we back now. Oh,
I think they're they're confused, like something happened to the stream.
Let me just double check what's going on with the car.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
The horizonal on YouTube is broken, but there is a
horizontal plane.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah yeah, it's just nobody on it. Interesting. Okay, well,
well look on the channel.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
See if you see it. Oh wait, I will, I
will send the link the new link through. It looks
like it made a new link.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, so maybe we should just stick with the horizon
or the vertical. What okay? Oh no, I just said
maybe we should just do verticals. But then again, I
guess people.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Would a link to in the in the discord.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So all right, all right, well.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, so this is like a stinger reel that they
use to promote the show. So it usually has like
the most emotional, the most dramatic. Yeah, yeah, the most
dramatic moments of the show.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So this is this is girl crap. Huh I said,
this is girl crack.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
This is yeah, girl crap, girl craft.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Girl crack, girl craft, girl craft.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I mean, what's scarier than this?

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I mean, other than staying informed of all of the
horror is happening in the world and like just looking
outside your window, especially if you live in the US,
what's better than a dumpster fire to make you feel
better about the fact that you're single or super grateful
that you're in an actual healthy relationship because spoiler alert,
we're not really going to see any of that, but.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Just her affectation. I guess this really appeals to women.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh well, let's let's unpack that a little bit. So
she said that this is a good thing because there's
a whole lot of chaos in the world, and of
course especially in the US, even though she doesn't know
that because she lives in Australia, and I would argue
Australia is in worse shape. But whatever, and also something

(07:25):
something you'll be happy or single or you know, even better,
you're not in a terrible relationship. Uh so we're basically
gonna watch other people's pain and enjoy ourselves. I guess, yes, So.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yep, okay, that's what she's setting up. But also this
is cherry picked from a season that's cherry picked. Like
that I in for full comprehensive understanding of this phenomenon,
I actually analyzed another YouTuber who was a therapist not
Byrony Claire, who looked at this show, and she points

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out that the people are selected for being hot messes.
So the men are selected, and specifically, most likely the
men are selected to trigger outrage in the women who
are watching this, because the outrage goes viral. Right, So
these are a select group of men who are not
selected for emotional maturity or stability or anything, right, they aren't.

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And even even those that one man in the show
that probably the showrunners put in because they were like, Okay,
this is the this is the guy that all the
women will root for because he's so nice and responsible, right,
this is his name is Jordan. Even that guy gets
a send up from Brianny Byrony Claire. She doesn't even,

(08:51):
she doesn't even want she even tears that guy down.
Sorry did I just bury the lead? Because it is
completely uncharitable. It's uncharitable on so many levels. The therapist
points out that not only are these people chosen to
be hot messes like Brian is talking about, and this
season in particular is particularly bad for that these people

(09:15):
are edited. These men have been edited down, taken out
of context, and edited down to create the maximum amount
of drama and outrage porn. Okay, so we're we're not
We're looking at cherry picked men who are basically actors,
because this is all fake cherry picked men, cherry picked
moments from those men that are recontextualized to create the

(09:39):
greatest amount of outrage. And then we are responding to
this and saying, see, this is what men are like,
aren't you grateful to be single? Ladies? What?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's right? That is the point.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, well let's get in. I guess we don't need
to do the rest of this.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, I mean, that's the thing. Like Briann Eclair, her
whole vibe is usually to use stuff happening in pop
culture to make an argument about reality, and pop culture
is almost never about reality, but she's so convinced. It's

(10:21):
like the you know, it's like a confirmation bias that
you know, these things must reflect something real because I
feel like they do. And so that's what she goes with.
And so reality TV is not real. I mean, like
I'm not saying it's completely scripted, but from what I understand,
reality TV is, Yes, they find there are interviews involved.

(10:43):
Specific people get selected to be in reality television and
it usually has something to do with how much emotional
content is gonna come out of them, either be based
on their behavior or their habits or their personality or
whatever their beliefs, and they use them to get the

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audience to react a certain way because it drives the
ratings up, but also because it does like they can
like create craft a narrative and then they do all
of their filming and then they have a bunch of
they have a bunch of editing that happens, so you
get all of these highly edited videos. I mean like

(11:28):
even like we've already talked about how and you know,
these sort of shows like Jubilee will have like a
big you know, confrontation and maybe the full encounter, the
full meeting was like two hours long, but they trim
it down to like a half an hour and they
and they just put the juiciest bits in there, and

(11:50):
they have a bunch of cut to reactions and music
and whatever it takes. Right, So the really is that
And so Brian Declaire is getting uh, just like I
don't know, several orders of removal from reality and then
teaks it as though it is reality, and your audience

(12:11):
eats it up because that's what you want to hear.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, and and we and they sink further into the
tar pit.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Honestly, well then they do. I mean, I don't know.
I think the most of most regular people are just
moving on. But mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's a good shack of women now. Yeah, like it's
and it's going to become the majority in like five
years at least the majority signal. Maybe not all the
single ladies are in this tar pit, but it's a
it's a huge shack of them, Brian. It's it is
an issue, I think, and honestly, it's all based on

(12:52):
a complete and utter lie about reality. So they're sinking
into this lie more and more and more, and how
do you get them out of it? The only way
to get him out of it is to challenge the line,
and nobody wants to do it because these women have
incredibly small scale control over people's lives. What do you do?

(13:13):
Can you tell the HR lady No, Actually, patriarchy conjecture
is just cope for your own failures. How quickly you're
going to get end up with a sexual harassment suit
on your ass, right, because it is a sexual harassment
suit even though it's not sexual. If women feel bullied
in the workplace, that's a harassment suit, right. There no

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passo directly to harassment, right, So I mean it's in again.
They're just sinking and they're slowly dragging everyone else with them,
And yeah, I know that's really freaking depressing. But the
first thing to start to solve a problem is to
recognize it and I get that, you what you're talking
about normal women just doing their lives for the most part.

(14:00):
But again, there's still this huge mass, ever expanding mass.
We have to somehow figure out how to penetrate, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, what I'm hoping for is that the women who
get swept up in this will suffer enough that they
will realize that they have been lied to by women
like Briar Declaire and they will get really angry with her.
And I think that, yeah, I think that that we
may see some of that that might be let's say,

(14:37):
blowback or backlash against women who have convinced other women
to self destruct and blow up their lives for you know,
to basically for clicks or money or just control or
just the delight in the chaos.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Mm hmm. So okay, well, I apologize. I'm under siege
by avoid cat, that's right, who does look a little
bit like a tar pit. But if she she wants
he treats and I have none, I guess I could
get her a shot. Callar, no, let's not go to

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your place. No, No, I I'm the one who has
to suffer, not the cat. I'm just kidding. I would
not do that, especially not to a cat like I
don't even know. I think that would result in the
cat plotting your demise and succeeding in removing you from

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this earth.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
All right, okay, let's all right, let's play some more.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
I haven't made a video on this show before, and
this was the first time watching the US version, and
this scene in particular inspired me to make this video.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
How would you react if at some point your child
told you they were LGBTQ plus.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
No matter what, I'm always gonna love my kids, But like,
I can't tell you, I would be the first person
to be like yay.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
And the conversation is actually far worst than just this
saying this with your full chest in the year of
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Well, you know, America, I guess people have preferences for
their kids.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure rural Australians probably do as well.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Those aren't humans though, yes, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's right, I forgot. Yeah we're not human. Well, I mean, honestly,
if we're not human, why don't they just go make
their own society where they can be with other humans
and leave the rest of us alone?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Because they need they need the normal people to produce
for them, so they can continue to go online and
complain about normal people because they won't do it themselves.
They need the energy of the normal, but they can
like siphon off of.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It, so they need to parasitize use it.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, they can to off of normal people who produce
things like children.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
When you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
The way, I don't know if you know, but you
don't not talking.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
About average people anymore. I don't think you're talking about
average people anymore. But normal people, I don't not sure.
I mean, there's especially normal women are not average anymore.
I don't think. Okay, let's all right.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So we have the So that was basically the the
the clip that said to her, I have to cover
this now. This isn't only going to be about that.
But yeah, so do you have any Do you have
any time codes? You guys?

Speaker 7 (17:31):
I do.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I do have time codes. Let me let me get them. Now,
let me because I got a gigantic document I found them.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I got all right, So let's see one.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I have two sets of time codes. Two sets, so
you got to decide. I got the ones that will
generate the most interest and the ones that are most
relevant to men's issues.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Oh okay, well, what what do you want to start with?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Just okay, negative portrayal. I'm interested in negative portrayal of men.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
All right.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
So the time codes are, yeah, like the whole video,
toxic masculinity and fragile male egos. Time five minutes to
six thirty. There we got just take a look at that.
What she has to say about that?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Here, here we go.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Spackles his real age.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
He's in real estate. It's very financed, bro coded. This
is Mike, very arrogant.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I like, what, why does you have noticed that these
people say stuff like that very such and such bro coded?
Did you notice that this is the new way feminist
attack men is they attach bro to the end of
something that men do and that automatically makes it bad.
Like like, say you're a man and you're into i

(18:56):
don't know, like a low carb palaeo diet. Call you
a paleo bro, and then that's that's the insult. That's
that you've been insulted. Take it if you're like a
dude that's into cars, you know, or go or going
to the gym. What do they call them? They call
them jim bros. You like going to the gym, you're
like being fit. You're Jim Bro now, and that's like,

(19:18):
that's that's the slander you have been slandered. You should
feel shame because I attached bro. It's almost like the
suffex bro itself is an insult, which is.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Short for brother.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah yeah, o yeah. So she said finance bro coded,
which basically means I suspect that he is a bro
that works with money and that makes him bad.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Solly brings up by a hacking un ironically thinking about it,
he probably looks up to Brian Johnson. You know that
guy that injected his son's plasma to try and stay
young forever.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
He asked if she'd.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Be Brian Johnson as weird as shit it and uh,
he's one of these guys that wants to live forever.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
That is that the guy who compared his nighttime timulescence
or timUL nighttime erections with his sons.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think so he's got a he's he's a weird guy,
like he's trying to live forever. He basically like gets
his son to like donate plasma to him, so he's
like literally draining his son's life force and giving it
to himself. This guy's like a litch, like they're like
that that's but or a vampire or something, but not

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at all a normal dude Like this is like the
this guy's super rich and just weird. Like there are
rich people who are trying to live forever. You ever
notice that some of the most evil rich people live
to be one hundred Pretty sure it's the adrena chrome
and the baby like the stem cells or something, but yeah,

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or the.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Blood of virgins. It's like almost like mister Burns was
a cautionary tale. Yeah, considering all the things that he
did that now rich people want to do to the
rest of us. Are well, not all rich people. I'm
sure there's quite a few rich people who just want
to live their lives.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
But you know, yeah, I imagine the majority of them do.
But I think the people who think that they can
transcend mortality, there are few of them. They I mean,
you know that they're rare because they make the news,
so Brian Brian Johnson, Yeah, yeah, basic ever Yeah, anyway,

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John Johnson.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
John John Johnson, John Joe Johnson.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
John Joe Johnson. That sounds like like one of the
agents from the Matrix, mister Johnson. I think there is
actually a guy named Agent Johnson.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Agent Johnson, all I remember is Agent Smith. Okay, okay, right,
Byrony has an issue with this individual. Oh Okay, this
doesn't This doesn't reflect on all men. Maybe this one dude. Yes,
But again, she's going to call it toxic masculinity if
she hasn't already. And once again we have to remind

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everyone to the people that use the term toxic masculinity
recognize no other form of masculinity but toxic.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, she's already. So I think this is an interesting
point because she's she has this guy and he's talking
about biohacking. Okay, again, this is like health stuff. Basically,
she immediately tries to make it sound like eugenics. So
it's all like whatever men try to do to better
themselves or protect their families or provide or whatever, or

(22:48):
just compete in the marketplace of like you know, marriage
and commitment and family, she has to attribute something negative
to it. So she immediately jumps from this guy's into
biohacking too. He is into eugenics too. He's just like
Brian Johnson, the guy who wants to live forever. There's
no evidence of that, but that's all she has to

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do is make a couple of correlations, and the women
in her audience will be like, Yep, that's exactly what
kind of man he is. It's literally the so you're saying,
that's basically what she's doing.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, I would like to make a proposition, completely apropos
of nothing and with no evidence. I believe that Byrony
is actually the countess that used to kill virgin girls
and bathe in their blood.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Why am I forgetting her name? But I know here I.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Am also I am also forgetting her name. I have
no idea why just blanking on her name? But yes,
I have absolutely no evidence of this, but I just
choose to believe it because it's convenient to the narrative
that I am pretending I have right now.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, she was in the Vampire Hunter Deep blood Lust,
I know that. But she's a real historical figure. Yeah,
I'm forgetting her name anyways. Yeah, that's exactly what Bryany is. No,
not Morgan Fay, no legend. It was like uh Mary,

(24:20):
oh no, no, she she.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Did it religiously that it wasn't about y Bathory. Yeah
something not Mary Bathory, but uh Elizabeth Bathrie something like that.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Elizabeth Bathree. No, no, not Mary.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
But that was a Catholic thing. It was religious. She
didn't bathe in the blood for for vampiic reasons. Yeah, no, yeah, Okay,
you're getting your you're getting your mass female murderers mixed up.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah. Yeah. Is it murdering Elizabeth?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I think it was Elizabeth Bathory. It might be Elizabeth
who was as a woman, the countess who bathed.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
The countess for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Okay, yeah, because it's it's countesses who are always the
evil ones, right, Yeah, it's not Duchess's duchess. Duchess is
you know, duchess is either a society lady or some
British woman who rides horses a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
The people chase Okay, my grog is being slow. I
let's just go with Elizabeth Bathory.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, let's move on. We just made this assumption about
but about made probably right because we said it. I
mean we said it to you guys in public, So
there you go.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, exactly. So what more do we need to prove
that she's actually Elizabeth Bathory and bathing in the blood
of virgins? Okay, let's go on.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Let's keep going to Brian Johnson, you know that guy
that injected his son's plans meant to try and stay
young forever.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
He asked if she be angry if he left.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Dirty dishes around the place, and Sparkles was saying that
she's into traditional gender roles. She really likes san idia
of a provider in that sense of security.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Quote unquote the provider, but like the security and the safety.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
He's wrong, Yeah, okay, what's wrong with that? Like that
would they're happy with the arrangement of the way that
they want to arrange their lives. I want to take
care of my woman. And she's like, yeah, oh my god,
that's so horrible.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
That's funny, Like there's an opportunity here because you know, feminists,
they want to dismantle the gender roles right, And we've
been saying since the very beginning that it's interesting that
they never stay explicitly to women that they have to
alter their preferences in order to make this work. Right.
They only push this on men to say that men

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should be giving a power to women, and men should
be willing to be stay at home dads, and that
they should be willing to, you know, be like in
the submissive role or whatever. They're always saying that, and
they don't say anything to women. And what often happens
is is that the few men that are foolish enough
to follow those instructions often end up either never finding

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a woman or the woman resents him over time because
the woman still expects the traditional roles from the men.
And so what we have now is, uh, it's it's well,
I mean, in the in the in the traditional it.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Is only traditional in regards to the man's.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Role, right, Really, traditional women expect traditional from men and
chivalry from men, but also they want liberation and authority
for themselves. So you don't have an egalitarian setup or
a patriarchal setup. You have only a setup that benefits

(27:52):
women in whatever context is desired. And Brianny here has
an opportunity to say, you know, ladies, you should be
willing to take on the role of provider or you know,
do the things that have more often been considered masculine,
because you know, in a real egalitarian society like the

(28:14):
there would be no difference in the roles. But she
doesn't say that. She doesn't say that because that would
upset her audience, because they do want that, and she
wants that even you know.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Well remember Morning Glory milking farm, the woman who was
getting the vapors when the bull man was like, I
put your wallet away, darling. I got this. I'm a
bull who wants to treat his cow, you know, like
and that all the women were like, oh, I wish,
I wish. It was like, yes, he says, I want
to take care of my woman, and she's and Byrony

(28:49):
is turning that into some horrible thing. And yet if
you really look at this whole the history of this, right,
this is new. The the idea of a homemaker versus
a homesteader, a woman who is productive in the context
of you know, like a small plot of land or

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or a small farm or whatever. That's completely new. That is,
that is something constructed by Hollywood in the fifties. It
took women's role from one of productivity to consumption in
the fifties. That's the first stage of all of this
product from production to consumption. And it's recently I watched
this this little compilation of all of the types of

(29:35):
fruit and berries that used to be used in baking
in the US, all across the US. So you know,
the US is really big lots of different biomes, lots
of different very local fruits and berries, and there it
went through twenty of them that no longer exists on
the table for the US, like gooseberries for simmons and

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other and other things that that Americans would use locally
to create sweets and bake goods. And each one of
those those items, each one of those types of fruit,
and the reason why they were no longer used is
because they were seasonal. They had very specific preparation methods
that were complex and couldn't be industrialized. And what happened

(30:19):
is they took all of the women with all of
that specialized knowledge to create productivity from their local environment,
and they replaced them all with consumptive homemakers who just
bought sugary problem for their families. So you went from
women who would know what to harvest, when to harvest it,

(30:44):
how to prepare it, because a lot of the stuff
is astringent or bitter or toxic if you don't prepare
it right. And they could take all of that and
produce sweet things in a time when sugar was very
expensive or completely non existent. Right. So this was very
special knowledge that women had about their environment and how
to produce using things from their environment. And it disappeared

(31:07):
and was replaced by the homemaker who takes it out
of a box and puts it like slops it into
a tray and puts it in an oven. And that's it.
So we go from that, like a woman who you know,
knows what's in season, knows how to prepare it, knows
how to harvest it, knows how to make sure that
it can last throughout the winter. We went from that

(31:28):
to someone who does three hours a day if that,
and buys everything and has everything automated for her. And
that's why this is completely artificial. This is this is
not traditional. The woman with that kind of local knowledge,
that was traditional. The woman who was productive in the

(31:49):
context of home and hearth, that was traditional, right even
in Proverbs thirty one. A woman who bought and sold
and invested wisely so that she increased the fortunes of
her family, that was tradition. This is a Hollywood construction
from the fifties, and it's only traditional because now we've
got this new thing. At that time, they were changing

(32:11):
women from being local producers right to consumers. And they
were they were changing the mentality of women from I
need to produce these things for my family to I
consume these things, and it's about me and what I
my leisure, what I enjoy, what I look like, that

(32:34):
kind of thing. So they were changing that mentality through
all of this advertising. And then when they had basically
run out of ways to change our women into consumers,
they did. They invented this new form of consumption which
was rights, rights as consumable goods. Right, not rights and

(32:56):
responsibilities to put in service to society, but right as
consumable goods that you are being excluded from because of
men's mendacity. So they went from the consuming housewife to
the consuming boss babe, and yeah, none of that is traditional,

(33:17):
none of it. And he's like, he's this is like again,
this isn't a traditional arrangement of a family. Right. If
it was traditional, she would be saying, well, I'm bringing
in these skills and these resources to our family to
help support the production of a household and children. This
is just a modern woman defined by consumption saying I

(33:38):
want you to underwrite my consumptive lifestyle, and him saying, yeah,
I take an identity from that. I take a positive
identity as a man from that, and neither Byron, You're right,
myrone Claire is not saying to women, step up, get
out of that role, become better or different or more,
or go back and really think about what the true

(34:00):
aditional role for women really was and really go back
to that. She's not saying any of that. She's just
simply continuing with this narrative that women are victims of
all of these iterations of centering the world on their consumption,
on their needs, on what they want. Okay, that was

(34:22):
That was a little long digression. It was a lot
of thoughts I put out there. I apologize. Hopefully you
find them edifying on some level or you get something
out of them.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
So, yeah, it is Elizabeth Bathory, blood Countess or Carmilla
Elizabeth Bathory. I was think it was Carnilla or something.
Was Carmela Elizabeth Bathory, the blood Countess. Okay, so that's who.
That's who made this video. I'm just going to go
with that. Yeah all right. So yeah, so this man says,

(34:57):
the woman says, or I'm sorry that says, I want
to take care of my woman. The woman's like, yes,
I do. So you have a meme where you have
the guy shaking hands, and the man's like, I will
take care of you, and the woman's like, I would
like that, and Briny artistically spreeching in the background, because
that that breaks the gender roles thing that she had,
like her whole concept of breaking generals is shattered. But

(35:19):
she won't actually to do that because.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
It is a traditional gender role in that there is
a role for men in a role for women.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yes, well, the idea is that she would be like,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
You could say that, like if women and slave men,
you could still call that a traditional gender role and
call it men pressing women because it's because it's because
it's a role for men and it's a role for women.
And then Byrony Claire would say that is traditional, therefore
that's patriarchal. Therefore men are being are oppressing women by
being their slaves.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Yeah, this logic is.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Okay, it's okay, all right, okay, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Let's keep going. I love that you said that.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Honestly, I thought that she said that she was rich
and guys were intimidated by her, so you want someone
even richer than you. And then it gets revealed that
Mike is part of a try.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
But wait, wait, whats what? Okay, just a second, who
who was it was? That? Was that Megan or Sparkles
Megan or whatever the name her name is. Who is
the woman that he thought he sparkles? Okay, So this
is really interesting because we're going to get into an

(36:33):
analysis of how Byrony Claire views Jordan, who is not
rich like Mike, or at least not willing to pretend
he's rich like Mike.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
But for whatever reason, the amount of money they're bringing
to a reality TV show about relationships, uh, seems to
matter a lot to Byrony, like especially what the women
are bringing like not like like the the let's put
it like this. She's very concerned with the disparities in

(37:04):
wealth between the men and the women. If the men
have less than the women when they're coming together, even
if the parties don't care about that, even if the
woman who has more is like, no, this is okay.
Bryanny has an issue with this and immediately assumes that
this guy is taking advantage of her in some way.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
You know which Okay, which which guy?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Which guy is this?

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I don't know? I don't know their names.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh goodness, let me let me, let me go in
and uh, yeah, I have all my notes on this
other computer, so I'm gonna have to set it up.
So excuse my excuse my craziness.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
But I think this is my problem.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
But it might be Jordan. These guys look all alike,
even when they're different races, they look all alike. Just
a second, here we go, Here we go, new one.
All right, let me let me open up. I need
like opening things. Oh that I don't have. I was

(38:07):
trying to use that mouse but it wasn't the right mouse. Okay,
all right, Coral I did. I did like analysis through
three different ais. No, I need Coral. Right, Okay, So
this is who is this? This is? This is Mike.
I'm pretty sure what what? Uh? What time code are

(38:30):
we at? Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
This is five minutes and thirty.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Six seconds, So I think this is still Mike.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, it's the same. Yeah, oxic masculinity and insecurity thing.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah exactly, So it's it's still Mike. Let's let's continue,
all right.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
With six pillars and being the trash panda that I am.
I went and scurried around on the internet and found
out that he's part of go Abundance. That is our
real name. To quote the website. It's for a high
performance man who refused the coast. But the thing that
Mike needs a wife because he needs someone to go
grocery shopping for him because he gets so confused.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
This is Sparkles Megan. Okay, this is really interesting, and
you know what, I think, probably we can abandon this
particular set of time codes at this point in time
because we should really look at what Byrony Claire subsequently
says about Jordan. So let me just lay down the
conflict here, and I know this is a lot of drama,

(39:28):
just bear with us. Mike is supposedly a rich dude.
Now there's some question because he has debts to his
suppliers and other stuff, but he presents himself as a
rich dude. Now Byrony is concerned about that because he
talks about wanting to take care of his woman, and
of course that's patriarchal conditioning and other Sparkles Megan, I know,

(39:52):
the name just ridiculous. But whatever Sparkles Megan apparently wanted.
He Barroney here notes that Sparkles Megan wants somebody who's
richer than her, which is interesting because Sparkles Megan is
a very successful business woman of an in and of herself,
which is going to become important when we talk about

(40:13):
Byrony Claire's attitude towards Jordan. Now we can go through
all of binary Claire, binary Byrony Claire's video, Elizabeth Bathory's claim. Yeah,
we could go through the blood Countess's claims, all of them.

(40:34):
But I think that it's I think it's I think
it's going to be more beneficial if we zero in
on Mike Sparkles, Meghan and Jordan and her opinions on
these three people. And again she's saying she's she's casting
shade on Megan wanting a man who makes more than her,
right so, and she's also casting shade on Mike presenting

(40:57):
himself as that kind of man. And now we all
know and are willing to emit on this channel that
women generally want men who earn more than them throughout
the world. And this is a universal I actually asked Groc.
I know if people are like, oh, Groca, no, no,
you shouldn't do that. But if there's any culture in

(41:18):
the world where men are not expected to protect and
provide and get this, even matrilinear or what feminist term
matriarchal cultures still expect men to protect and provide. It
is universal, and Mike is presenting himself as that kind
of man. What a shock in a scenario in which

(41:39):
his ability to attract a woman is how he wins,
and he's presenting himself as the thing that women find attractive.
So anyway, this is just just setting the stage. Mike
is presenting himself as an attractive man, as a protector
and provider. Sparkles Megan is saying, I like that, but also, uh,

(42:00):
Byrony or Bathory Elizabeth Bathory Bathory is saying that she's
calling calling Sparkles out for liking that and wanting a
man that earns more. But let's hear what Byrony has
to say. Is it Byrony.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
The blood Countess, the blood Countess of the blood the
blood count is from now on, it makes it more
fun for me to refer to her instead of Branny,
because Byronnie sounds ridiculous and made up, and that's probably
her real name, and I blame her parents, but I'll
just say blood countess. So yeah, okay, she probably appreciate

(42:40):
that too, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, probably, okay, So I can't show you this because
it's on my other computer. But I'm asking her. I'm
asking Perplexity to explain to me how to summarize how
how byron Any responds to Jordan, who is his man?

(43:06):
Give you an idea of Jordan's background. He is a
single father. He has a small apartment. He sleeps on
the couch, a small one room apartment. He sleeps on
the couch so his son can have the bedroom. He's
very frugal, although apparently quite hard working and responsible and mature. Right,
if we want, we can actually see where he's introduced. Sorry, guys,

(43:29):
I probably should have. I don't even think he is,
because he's not. I asked them to. I asked. I
asked Perplexity to our coral to give us all the
times in this video where she's talking about men negatively,
and she doesn't really talk about Jordan negatively except to

(43:50):
cast shade on the potential of between sparkles Megan and
Jordan's relationship. I know, do you have a do you
have a time code that.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Has questioning with regards to Jordan?

Speaker 6 (44:06):
Yes, it looks like you know, go ahead, it looks.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Like there are from what I'm seeing, I don't see
negative things with Jordan. But let's go let's go to
that section, because I'm pretty sure not nobody, none of
the men on the show, and a lot of the
women didn't get out of this thing unharmed. I'll say
so six six fourteen, thirty seventeen, So let's do six fourteen.

(44:42):
So maybe, like right here.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
More scandals have been coming out about Mike that he
hasn't been paying for services, especially from small businesses that
he's used for his own booming business. He runs zen
house homes. Yes, he's one of those dude for us.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Wait a minute, I thought that was the time coade
you sent me. Now I got to look again.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, all right, well you know what.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I'm sorry, fifty four I was in the wrong. It
was it's later. Let's go right here.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Single dad, like he co parents with his ex, so
they've got like fifty to fifty arrangement going on.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
I'm a single dad, so that wow, quite a bit
of time, and that's my number one priority and.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
It could possibly also beat due to his immaturity issues.
He's really open saying it.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, that's okay. So she calls him immature. Apparently she
assumes he has immaturity issues, So that might be why
he's a single dad, I guess, even though I think
there was also like a bit because you know how
feminists they they u sort of like they chip away

(45:50):
at single fatherhood. They had their way of attacking it by,
you know, because they claim that, you know, the motherless
the fatherlessness isis is men's fault because they're not sticking
around and taking care of the kids, right, they're not
sticking around. But when there are single fathers, when you

(46:10):
have the reverse of that, that's also a problem because
single fathers get a lot of credit and kudos just
for being fathers, like it like undeserved, Like society overly
rewards single fatherhood and overly condemn single motherhood like that
kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
So yeah, well, okay, So one of the reasons why
I wanted to actually and I sent you, I think
the time the time codes of when she discusses Jordan's
relationships is and one of the reasons why I want
to discuss this is because I looked throughout all of
this and I looked at the criticism of this show,
including the criticism of that therapist that I mentioned earlier.

(46:49):
This is all cherry picked so we can go through
and we can look at Byrony cherry picking, the cherry
picking and all of the behavior of these men. But
once again, the real problem is not is not the
specific bad behavior of these men, because these men were
chosen to create offense, and then they were they were

(47:12):
selectively edited to refine that offense to be offensive to
the target audience, which is which is single women. Right,
So this was all manufactured. So we can go through
and look at all of the instances where Byrony Claire
calls out male behavior and do what all we can
do is say, this is cherry picked. This doesn't apply

(47:33):
to all men in this case. I don't even think
it's really particularly negative because he's just saying, I want
to take care of a woman. How is that negative? Really,
It's like we went through the sexism text and thinking
of a woman is in every way better than a
man is a benevolent sexism against women. You know, It's like,

(47:55):
this is not this is not negative to women, Byrony.
Just because this man wants to take care of his
woman doesn't make it. But anyway, she's going to select
all of the bits that create the most outrage from
a a selection that's already selected to create the most
outrage and have the most outrageous male behavior to present
to a female audience so they can cluck over it.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
So the a lot of it is also kind of
twisted to look more outrageous than it actually is. But
it's also distorted, you know, beyond apprehension, Like it's unrecognizable
likely from the original context.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
So yes, it's yeah, so we're like you were saying before.
This is multiple layers of redirection of this issue. But
the main issue is that this is being constructed in
the first place, right, It is being cherry picked to
appeal to this audience of women in the tar pit
who want to justify staying in the tar pit because

(48:54):
men are so terrible. It's it's cherry pick to create outrage,
because outrage creates viral clips. Right. So that's that's And
if we look at each of her examples, what do
we do with them? They're all tainted, They're all irrelevant,
you know, and we'd all be repeating this. Well, I

(49:15):
wanted to get into one specific example, which is how
she treats this character Jordan. All right, did you get
the time codes?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah? I have it right here.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
So okay, let's go look at how she talks about Jordan.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Okay, wealth Club.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
If you have so much money, sir, why are you
not playing your employees and service providers?

Speaker 5 (49:37):
I am just saying so many red flags all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
That's Mike, not Jordan's what that the the why aren't
you paying your service providers is in reference to Mike,
which is she had words for him because he was
talking about how he's wealthy and he's going to take
care of her and sparkles. Megan was like, oh, I
like that. I like a man who does. And then

(50:00):
Byron was like, well, you you're rich, but you want
an even richer person. So but now we're going to
see what Byron he does when a man doesn't earn
as much as the woman. So let's go for it.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Okay, Ti, who's a dad guy.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
He's got a five year old son called Luke and
says that women don't want to date him when they
find out that he's got a son, and part of
me is wondering if thinking that they might have to
like do all of the child rearing. When he's introducing
himself as a single dad, like he co parents with
his ex so they've got like fifty to fifty arrangement going.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
So yeah, okay, So now there's a suggestion like this
is the thing, like her interpretations are all about as
uncharitable to the men as she can possibly make them.
So a single dad is trying to in a relationship. Oh,
he's trying to get you to raise his kids. Man

(50:52):
who doesn't have any kids enters a relationship. Oh, he's
just trying to get to your money. Oh, he's just
after one thing. I know that. At one point in
this uh, in this video, because they didn't watch the
whole video, she suggests that the there's a man who
is uh, it's like towards like Slater. In the video,
there's a man who is saying that he thinks another

(51:15):
woman is beautiful, which is obviously he's flattering a girl
on the show. Because that's the point, and that that
Bryanty thinks that the women are all out of the
league of these men, Like these men are not like
they're they're in over their heads. Like these girls are
way out of these men's league. And I'm like, bitch,

(51:36):
all of these people are chosen because they're all pretty
good looking. That's why that's One of the main reasons
why they're on the show is that they're all decent looking, right,
they all fit a kind of within a range of
you know, generally attractive people, young fit, you know, whatever.
And they and they fit a certain like I don't

(51:57):
say archetype, but there is a maybe there's like a
stereo type. Like there's a guy covered in tattoos. There's
a guy who you know, is very straight, straight laced,
and there's a guy who's Christian, and there's a guy
you know who's emotional, and and they have like the range,
and that's literally what the show is. Like the black
guy is really emotional and he cries at one point,
and of course that's a problem for her too, so

(52:19):
you know, and but yeah, like it's just she's extremely
uncharitable and it's on purpose, it's by design, and it's
it's too I think, to blackpill her audience to men.
She's got a man, she's in a relationship, if not married,
I think she's married, at least I think she claimed
to be. She's got a ring, so she's obviously like fine,

(52:43):
but she's black pilling the women in her audience. Because
we're talking about a show where everyone is good looking
and they all are getting into relationships and it's you know,
yes there's drama and it's got train wreck stuff in it.
But if you're like a normal, like a five or
a four, watching this, how much hope does that give you?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
What?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
And that's the same woman who's going to read, you know,
the Minotaur book. Yeah, because like, real men suck. They're
all bastards, they're all garbage. So just something to think about.
I think that she's I think that women like this.
They sabotage other women's chances in the dating market by

(53:25):
telling them constantly that men are crash everywhere all the time.
And I think that a lot of women buy into it.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Well yeah, well because uh if you don't. If you
do that, then you can actually really up your You
can punch way above your weight as a woman. If
you completely sabotage all the other women, then if you're
a woman who is at least the least a bit
interested in commitment, suddenly you can pull your you're a five,
you can pull yourself at eight. You know, you have

(53:57):
huge amounts of debt. You can get a man who's
rich and it'll pay it off.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Like yeah, and if she can women to stay virgins
her whole life. Then she can lure them to her place,
murder them, and bathe them their blood so that she
can live forever. It's also according to plan.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, let's let's hear what she has to say about Jordan.

Speaker 7 (54:23):
All Right, I'm a single dad, so that quite a
bit of time, and that's my number one priority.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
And it could possibly also be due to his immaturity.
Is he's really open saying that he got snipped and
good on him, Like, honestly, that's very progressive.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
That's great, we love that.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
But he's oh, okay, so he got a vasectomy, and
she's all about that. Again, what does this suggest, like
that men should not want children? She thinks that's very progressive,
and that we like that a man who is essentially
like an uh, I don't know, like his his pistol

(54:57):
has no ammo. We're good, We're happy about that. We
were happy about that. That's what she's saying. I don't know, man,
that's as dark to me, that's just dark as shit.
But anyway, it.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Is easily reversible. However, the longer that the snippers in place,
the harder it is to do the reversal. I just
like to make sure that people are well informed. Okay,
it turns out that Luca, his son has type one diabetes,
and Sparkle's dad actually recently passed away in twenty twenty
from type one diabetes as well, and this forms a
big part of their bond.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Ellie, who's all right, I'm pausing it there, just because
we don't want these to be too long. So so
Briary knows that vasectomies are less reversible as time goes on.
She points it out to her audience. But I don't
know if anyone's going to tell this guy about that.

(55:48):
I mean, he may at some point be like, I
think I want to have kids again, and then he's
going to go into the doctor's office and they're gonna
be like, sorry, it's too late, you're done. And is
Brianni going to be sad for him? No, No, she
doesn't care. So I mean, I think it's it's you know,
it's pretty freaking messed up to just be like, yeah,

(56:12):
I support that without knowing what it means for people.
And I know these are realities TV people. Maybe this
is all fake, I don't know, but it's just you know,
kind of fucked. Okay, so he's going to go into alley. Now,
should I jump ahead to a different time code?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, twenty five minutes, go to twenty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
All right, twenty five minutes.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
There we go, because you know, it's revealed that there's
still this guy on the outside. And this is where
it gets weirdly sexual and talking about a landing strip. Oh,
you have a landing strip, and now that's been the
whole time. Sure, she's trying to use her sexuality to
be able to snare him, right, and.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
She says something very telling, if you look like a
baby's seal, you want me to look like one. I
want to give you what you need.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Like she's trying to mold herself to be whatever man
wants her to be, both of them, the good community
around them.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Oh god, it's okay, But I don't understand how people
make manipulators if they're women out to be the victim,
Like this is what this is. She's making a female
manipulator out to be the victim because she has to
mold herself into what a woman wants. Okay, but what
if a man is molding himself into what a woman wants?

(57:26):
So he can get one over on her. Do you
do you think she he's the victim because he has to.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Mold himself the manipulator and.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Both he's a manipulat and yeah, like it's.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Just the thing is too. I mean, I wouldn't even
go so far as to say it's manipulation because I
think that they're both They both just are horny and
they're in the room with each other and they're just
talking about what they want. And I don't think there's
anything untoward happening. I don't think it's sinister. I just
think they're horny and they need to get bonked unless

(57:58):
they're going to follow through and then and that's fine.
But Bryerny has to make it sound a lot more,
I don't know, scary than it is, like even has
like playful music playing, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, okay, And.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
If anything, the girl is the one that's kind of
I wouldn't say objectifying, but she's the one talking about
the man's like body parts, like his pubic hair, right, yeah,
you have a landing strip.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah, so like whatever, Yeah, okay, let's keep going, all right.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
And therapy rather than a relationship. Mike comes in again,
trying to throw Jordan under the bus and so seeds
of doubt into Sparkle's mind. However, Sparkles feels really good
and happy anytime that she's around Jordan, and that's very good,
Like that's very healthy, rather than feeling like all of
this doubt and fear and like hmm, like I feel
like there's something wrong here, you know, like she was
getting with Mike, and she takes a fact that he

(58:57):
has Luca very seriously as well, like considering him in
the life that they're planning out together, which is very
good obviously, like any step parent should be, like accommodating
and stuff. However, he's also saying that it comes down
to like Luca's mom Skuyler about you know, contact and
all that sort of stuff, because yes, absolutely she also
brings up his physsectomy.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Okay, just pausing there for I want you to know
that it's still about the woman for Byron, Yes, not
the relationship and certainly not the man.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Like it's still just about the woman. So we've seen
from Meghan Sparkle, Meghan's behavior with Patrick. She can be
very manipulative to get what she wants without really feeling
anything for him, right because I guess she thought she
could get a proposal from him and then they win. However,

(59:50):
this works, but now she's looking at this situation and
she's putting Meghan's interests first, despite what Meghan has portrayed
about herself this previous interaction. Wouldn't you put Jordan first
or son? But no, it's it's still about Megan. And
Megan was also a victim of her manipulation because she

(01:00:12):
had to add in order to manipulate Patrick, she had
to pretend to be interested in him and to be
what he wanted. Is that it's a really good It's
a really fantastic tool for never taking accountability as a woman.
Mm hmm. Okay, let's listen to some.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
More, and says, most females don't want to be pumping
themselves with hormones, myself included. Oh did we have some
right wing propaganda sneaking in? And oh, my goodness, everybody's
going off birth control.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
I've already talked about that whole phenomenon too, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, so he okay, So there they have a conversation
about birth control and Brien, he thinks that the idea
that female hormonal birth control affects your hormones is just
poppy cock, even though it's literally in the name of
the type of birth control. And the people who I

(01:01:07):
know that are the most against hormonal birth control are women. Like,
it's not men saying the science says that I control
your bodies by telling you that birth control is bad
for your hormones. No, it's women who say, I refuse
to take this because I know it's gonna fuck with
my hormones's gonna fuck with my brain, it's gonna make

(01:01:28):
me different, It's not gonna it's gonna change who I am.
And I know I've known a lot of women that
wouldn't take birth control because they knew that there were
side effects to their hormones. And Karen has talked about it,
and Aidan Paladin did the whole thing about it, and
you know, Lindsey's talking about when I first started dating her,
She's like, I'm not fucking with my hormones. This was like,

(01:01:50):
you know when we first met, I mean not when
we first met, we were talking about birth control at
the time, but you know, shortly after we started dating,
and so yeah, it's like, but Briarny has to frame
it like it's something men do to women, and women
don't make these choices. They don't even think about these things.
But I think that a woman who takes her fertility

(01:02:13):
seriously is going to think about those things and at
least consider them.

Speaker 7 (01:02:17):
So okay, all right, we discovered that we're each other's
purpose too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Oh, Nick meets up with the woman he loves most.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Kate saying that there's actually people that is torn between now.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
The fact that I can also see that with somebody else,
I'm being pulled in two separate directions.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I love watching her face because same, what the hell
is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
You told me you loved me two days ago?

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
You shame?

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
You are exactly right, Kate. The fact I'm having hesitation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Okay, this is not I need more precise time codes.
But let's move to the next one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Okay, you're on a raality TV show. There's gonna be
some dudes that are trying to like spread their seed.
What are you going to do? Gonna be some women too,
trying to get laid.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
So okay, so, uh, thirty three, go to thirty three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Thirty three minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
So I mean essentially that what we just watched was
Byrony comparing Mike and Jordan and saying that Mike was
creating drama and but this is going to be more
of that. So okay, So once again, the the love
triangle is Mike, Jordan and Sparkles Megan.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Let's go say that patriarchy is bad for everybody. The
thing is that he didn't want to show weakness and vulnerability.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
I go back a little bit. I want to hear
that patriarchy is bad for everybody, because that's it crucial.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I think that she's made the wrong choice. Cry, and
so she's like cry.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
This is to get another example of why we say
that patriarchy is bad for everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
The thing is that he didn't want.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
To patriarchy is bad for everybody. No. Actually, statistically, men
are losing a lot more life in order to maintain
these roles that and sparing women a lot of loss
of life. So I mean, if we come down to
the basic metric of human existence, which is life lost.

(01:04:18):
I actually I actually had a conversation, extended conversation with
Groc about this and I got them. I got Groc
to estimate men lose probably about five years of life
in their role, and that's across everything, the stress, the
dangerous jobs, death in war, death dealing with crime, and

(01:04:39):
in first responder roles, so everything five years and if
the burden of men's role was shifted over onto women,
they would probably lose something like five to eight years.
And the reason why they'd lose more is because it
would take more dead women to do the jobs that
men do. Like there would it would be there would

(01:05:00):
be more. So the jobs that men do probably result
in like I don't know, let's say nine deaths. If
women had to take it over, it'd be thirteen instead,
there would be more dead women. So this is what
men are sparing women. So when these individuals say that
patriarchy hurts men or hurts women more or men too,

(01:05:23):
it's absolutely it preferentially hurts them. It hurts them more.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yak that patriarchy though, well no it is not, Yeah,
because I already said that we're not living under patriarchy
and we're not living under egalitarianism. We're living under a
distorted view of well, basically like the the hybrid model

(01:05:51):
that only benefits women.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
If if you think that women can be benefited in
this way, which I don't, No.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I don't think it does, but I think that's the intention.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah, well, I don't even think it's the intention. I
think it benefits a particular ideology overall. Like the more
I look at this, these single women, when I say
they're in a tar pit, I mean it. They are
the most miserable and they lose They're losing one to
five years of life by pursuing this, this this lifestyle. Right,
They're losing life, they're losing happiness, and it's they're stuck

(01:06:32):
in a tar pit, a self REFERENTI reinforcing tar pit
with other women who they can't even really have any
camaraderie with because they can't trust them, and they're constantly undermining.
When when women undermine each other, they cannot have true
bonds with each other. How can they if if if

(01:06:55):
Sally is busy undermining all of the women around her,
she knows that they're likely doing the same thing to her,
how can you construct any any true fraternity or any
true sorority based on that? You can't. So these women
are living in this perpetually self isolating tar pit, and

(01:07:17):
they're locked into this hell, and they've locked each other
into this hell because they can't handle their own envy.
It's disturb and the only thing that feminism is doing
is just pouring more tar into the tar pit. It's like, yeah,
you could say, well, this is about women's benefit, I

(01:07:38):
don't think it is. It's about benefiting women's self destruction,
right and and honestly, it's like an addict thinking getting
more booze benefits them. These women are in a place
where they think that more self destruction is benefit. Is

(01:07:59):
in powerman, and it's it's really fucked up. And I
don't think anybody's benefiting from this at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Well I will te All I'm saying is it's not patriarchy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
And no, it's not egalitarianism. It's not patriarchy. It is miserarchy.
It is miserable people making each other miserable. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
The other thing too, is that I think this guy
and I don't think he's wrong, but I think this
guy is like I can't cry around this woman, even
if she's telling me it's okay, because she'll probably become disgusted.
So that there. This is another thing that Briar Declaire
won't even entertain, because like the the idea that patriot

(01:08:50):
hurts men too does not ask women if they would
be okay with that, and if it did, women would
likely lie anyway and say, oh yeah, I'm fine. He
can cry around me, that's cool. And then he does
and they get it's added to the ick list.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Why does he have to cry around someone who rejected him?
I think that's what's happening here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Well, yeah, I don't know. And another thing too, is
that this is reality TV. We don't know if any
of this is like editing to look a certain way,
to like be spun a certain way that they added
the music, they cut in certain things. He may not
cry at all because if he did, show but he

(01:09:30):
probably just said, you know something like, I feel terrible.
I feel like I could because I'm losing something like
I guess he's getting dumbed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Right, So yeah, yeah, let's this is Mike. Let's go
to Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
All right, what's the next time?

Speaker 7 (01:09:46):
Code?

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
No? Keep going?

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Oh okay, this was your set up.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Bility, which is the thing that cut him off to
true love. Jordan proposed as a spackle.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Let's go this is great.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
Nick and animate they're both very happy. Well, and I
just wanted to share with you this clip of how
he goes back to the pod.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
You already, I know, wait for me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
You're welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Jordan and Sparkles meat so nervous. I don't know, and
he's instantly showing her pictures of Luca. Megan was so
anxious and nervous because of all of the things that
Mike had been saying as well, like he's just not
a good guy. These two do seem really cute though,
And we've got her plastic surgery reveal, because she'd recently
had her implants taken out, but she's still got her

(01:10:32):
BBL so that's why like her.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
That looks as good as it does.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Okay, all right, let's go to forty four.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
All right, forty four, it's gonna last.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
Then then go at Kim and start living together normally. Well,
Edmond does put himself.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
In a closet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Oh that's me in a closet.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Then Sparkle starts to get all worried about meeting Luca's
mom obviously, like this is a really big responsibility, and
she is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Sparkle's got nervous. I just want you to note this,
so Sparkle Sparkles gets Sparkles gets nervous meeting Luca's mom.
So that meeting the relative, one of the relatives or
the ex wife of Jordan, So she's nervous meeting I
guess you could call it a relative since it's the

(01:11:28):
mother of his child. Let's keep going, baby, want you
to know this baby mama.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Well that's gonna be Yeah, that's always tough.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
But anyway, ability on episode, Joe and Madison and disconnecting
a bit like they're not really seeing eyed eye on
things because he's still struggling to get that connection between
the pod and real life. Still, like I said, I
do believe this is an attraction issue.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Sorry, I'm like too interested in you, excited about you,
That's what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Going right now.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
She can tell like we can that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Oh that's awful. Wow, sorry, I'm so interesting. Well, well
that's your problem. I mean, honestly, isn't that what we
say to men who are more interested in a woman
than a woman is in them. Anyway, she doesn't note that,
because of course why would you, and nobody does really

(01:12:23):
Like I had Grock do a gender swap criticism of
the people on this show, and of course the men
get more of it. And if you gender swap, it
just completely reverses because this is this is about presenting
these examples of outrage in order to support the notion

(01:12:43):
of toxic masculinity and systemic patriarch It isn't. Okay, Let's
keep going, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
And then he's into her and he says that he's
struggling because it's a law, and it's like, yes, and
that doesn't mean that he should be pushing away this
past you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
What? Okay, sorry, I know that we're about to go
into Jordan again, which is what I threatened you all with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
But oh he's got like au and like a little
tiny place. Men men will what is that is there?
Like a big TV in a PlayStation? Men will live
like this and call it normal? How can men live
like this easily? But no, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Yeah, Well, she's basically saying that he shouldn't push her away.
Why does her desire for him obligate him to reciprocate brianny?
Would you say the same if it was a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Man ride a prise on the on the reality show
where people are are? You know, they only meet for
like a short period of time. Sometimes they don't work out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Mm, yeah, okay, let's keep going all right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
Foot on in the lounge that he sleeps on. It
was actually really sweet that he had given up the
only room to his son Luca. But Sparkles already has
a real to set up, like she is locked in.
She wants to make this work. It turns out Allie
and Anton both work night shifts, and they've both been
awake for twenty four hours to be able to get
through this last bit right. Then they start talking about
home responsibilities because he cooked breakfast and so she's like, oh,

(01:14:21):
I should wash up. Then it turns out that when
she was studying full time, she lived at home and
her mom did everything. She didn't do anything, and as
she says.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Cleaning is not going to be like a priority for me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Oh no, what she's going to say?

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I wonder what Byrony's going to say?

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Yeah, I want to know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
I think that when he was on about a traditional relationship,
he was picturing her doing a majority of that stuff.
Let's be honest, And once again the topic of money
comes up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Considering what it's then, Oh, yeah, of course it's his fault.
It's his fault. She doesn't have basic life skills. I
mean she can't. He can't even expect her to do
peate to pull her own freaking weight. All right, let's
uh what what what time code? Are we at?

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Forty five thirty four?

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Forty five thirty four? Uh? Okay, I think we we
only have a little bit more to this time code.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
So let's let's uh all right, finish it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Yep, Pete, it costs a lot of money to be
able to look as good as she does the concept
of a joint account and sept for accounts come up, now, finances,
this is a relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Oh again, No, she she says, it costs a lot
of money for her to look as good as she does.
So this is again suggesting that like no one else
I don't know, Like doesn't it doesn't it cost money
for anybody to work on themselves? And is he was
he not enough for her anyway? Like didn't she choose him?

(01:15:55):
Like I don't, I don't understand, Like because she's pretty
what that means that she just cost more money to
help keep that? And you know he won a traditional
relationship or marriage. She agreed, she's there, so what's the
problem anyway?

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Having this discussion? But he's like, well, why can't we
just rely on a joint account? And she's like, well,
I don't want you to know how much I spend
on botox and stuff. Joint account for joint expenses and
also having your own individual money makes perfect sense that
that's how we function, and we've done that for many years,
like we've been together for like it'll be thirteen years
next year.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Maybe I don't want to tell you how much I
spent on got Chucks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
So Byrony doesn't combine her finances with her partner.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Yeah, that's not a good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Sign for a relationship, by the way, guys, all right,
let's keep going.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
They're talking about it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
However, I don't think that he can afford her, and
I think that this is going to be him judging
her as.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
He can't afford her. Okay, so this is the woman
who's like, oh, I don't like traditional gender roles, which
they aren't traditional, but regardless, we'll go, I don't like
the fifties housewife. He can't afford her. This woman is
an abject hypocrite. He can't afford her. That shouldn't come

(01:17:25):
out of your mouth. You were talking about Hey, maybe
Byrony brirony could encourage women to change how they estimate
a man's worth. Are you flipping kidding. No, she still
buys into it. She's still saturated in it. I wonder
who paid for the house she lives in. And then
she has a go at this guy saying, I want

(01:17:46):
to I want to treat my woman. I want to
take care of my woman. What do you think that?
What do you think the flip side of he can't
afford her is But the problem there is that men
take a pause of identity from supporting a woman. Is
that it? Byronny?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Okay, yeah, this is going to infuriate me. I know what,
Let's keep going.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
This person frustrated with him over the fact that he's
not very ambitious.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
What coping that fell off the trees.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
Calabria meets Edmund's mum and she's very sweet. She's gonna
give me his dines. It's very nice, and she gives up.

Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
Well, I think this is done.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Go to I think this might be done, so we
might go back, but or it might just be like
a montage. So let's go to fifty fifty thirty fifty
minutes in thirty seconds, got it?

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
A couple of beers every single day, and this is
like a little bit worrying like it may not count
as an alcoholic, but it's like, what are your reasons
for doing that?

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Like I need a beer to be able to relax,
because yeah, I'd be worried a couple of beers a day,
you know, Like she's what.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Is what did you don't know what? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
I know, I don't think you did. It's just probably
a little bit of overlap with something else. These these
these timecodes aren't precise.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
Okay, keep going sorts.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
Patrick arrives and fills all the boys in on Casey.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
I was like, oh, well, what do you doing tomorrow?

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
You know, he hasn't seen her at all. She texted
him that she doesn't want to do the show anymore,
and he's like, it's okay, we can just call, like
we can meet up, Like that's fine, and she's like, no,
I don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
To, Like, well, you tell her when we were broken
up or now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
She won't even have a phone call with him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
I asked for the ring back and she basically stopped
talking to me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
She said she was like the ring back and she
was like no.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
But the thing is that, once again, the rings are
provided by the show. They're not paid for by the guy,
so you don't have to return them at all. And actually,
even if you don't go through the wedding, you still
get to keep the ring like that is part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
You act like you're the only one that's her in this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Why are you so obsessed with keeping this ring?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I don't know. She's trying to imply that this guy
is like the bad guy for wanting something that isn't his. Again,
I have to remind you, guys, this is reality TV.
Probably a lie like some of this stuff, or at
least blown overblown or something. You know, maybe he wanted
her to return the ring to the people who from

(01:20:18):
the show. I don't know. I don't know, but this
is a good opportunity for Brian. Need to use this
to impugne all men everywhere, because that's all this even
though we're looking at, uh, you know, a subset of
a subset of a subset, this is all men when
when it's framed by you know, the blood countess, so.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
Oh my gosh, she's the worst.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
Maybe that scummy guy that was telling her to go
on the show, maybe he'll just be like, okay, well
that can counts our engagement ring.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
I don't know, I just I just want her to go,
like do some inner healing. Really, Kate is back? Remember
the love of Next Life?

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
I think I think we might be just wandering into
the weeds. Let's go to wait wait, wait, no, there
there should it should be Sparkle meets Luca's mom. I
think this is a recap of the So let's just keep.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Going what what? Just keep playing here?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
I just keep playing out to see her.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
I would be medicine in this situation, because I absolutely
would be bringing the person over to be like, hey,
have you met my friend Kate? Like other Wooden Spoon.
What can I say? Brandon really loved Annie, but it's
like she doesn't care at all.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Very clearly everything you thought it was me would be.

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
Mike actually apologizes to Sparkles for making her cry, and
I appreciate this. At least he's done some self reflection.
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
I do want to apologize for like making you cry
that one night.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
He says that he had picked a ring out for
her and it would have been an emerald cut like
she wanted, and blah blah blah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Oh god, this is perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
It's perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:22:04):
Yeah, I'm so glad. He decided not decide into her damns,
because that would have also been like really scummy. Like
even the things that he's bringing up now, it's like
this is really appropriate.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Do you think you made a mistake?

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
No, look dude, yeah, I mean, but like this is
for TV, like you know, just take it with a
grain of salt. Guys. Yeah, I'm talking to my friends
like he's meeting my family, are like, this is the
guy you've married.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
I'm so glad that she's been this honest with him because.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
I think, Okay, so what she's referring to. What she's
referring to is she he had Jordan meet her family,
which I'm guessing is somewhere in these time goes. But
for whatever reason, I couldn't, I couldn't be identified precisely,
So she took him to meet her family. And now
they're saying that he's the one that you marry. Jordan

(01:22:59):
is the one you marry, not Mike. And Jordan again
is the guy without money. Mike is the one who
apparently has at least some money. Yeah, so let's uh,
let's just uh, you're good luck, good luck finding it.
Let's just keep going.

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
Maybe there so pay those people you allegedly haven't paid.
We finally get to see Anna and Patrick. The way
that he comes up to Anna is very aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
To share her.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
She was my numb want to tell she left me.
God damn it, he left me.

Speaker 6 (01:23:27):
I don't know why you do that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
And she's like, let's go and chat. The far better
way to come up against like this on topic. I
do feel really bad for not saying anything before I left.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
That was aggressive. Huh that was aggressive on his part.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Yeah apparently, yeah, well you know again, She she this
is the thing. This is the great thing about getting
takes from the Blood Countess is that she gets to
frame the She basically sets the emotional tone by giving
what she thinks. It's like, she says, this is shocking,

(01:24:04):
this is inappropriate, and she does so with you know,
like her body language and her tone and her the
way that she you know, the words that she uses,
and her audience sees it and they're like, oh, it
is inappropriate, like like they just they just glom onto
it emotionally and they just go along with it. So
she sets the tone, makes a claim, acts the klemped.

(01:24:27):
Then the people who watch her videos they see her
reacting and they're like, oh this, I must react this
way because she's reacting this way. I think that's what
it is, you know what I mean. It's like a
kind of parasocial thing. I mean that's how TV works,
you know, Like if you want people to feel like

(01:24:48):
a certain way, then you just show someone feeling that way,
like you know, cranked up to eleven, and then you
hope the hope is that people who watch it will
get it cranked up to six they just by like
watching it, so it just has the same effect.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Yeah, anyway, okay, so forty six forty four, let's go
to forty six, forty forty four. Yeah, forty six forty four. Okay, yeah,
hopefully that's right here. Okay, Okay, So this is Jordan
meeting Sparkle's parents, all.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Right, moments Jordan and Sparkles meet her family, and it's
a fourth anniversary of her father's passing, so it's like
a very big day.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Jordan is very.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Much a simpler kind of guy, and I think that
we can all pick up that Sparkles has got fancier tape.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
But I do love.

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
Megan, you know, to the moon and back pass, and
I think that this relationship will last because she will
be the main breadwinner and he will feel emasculated by this,
and she will probably struggle with his immaturity about this,
and that's the thing that's going.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
To Okay, oh wa wait wait wait wait wait, wait.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
What I'm thinking?

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Okay, So she's throwing shade on Jordan and Megan, even
though she says they He's more mature than Mike. And
why because Jordan makes lesson She's She's suggesting, because he's
nervous about meeting her family on the fourth anniversary of
her dead father, that he's going to be emasculated by

(01:26:09):
the fact that she earns more. So it's on him, shees.
Of course, Megan sparkles, of course would never emasculate Jordan
from learning less. So this is what's infuriating about this woman.
She is one hundred percent stuck in the idea that
men exist to provide and protect for women. But she

(01:26:32):
absolutely will not acknowledge that the people who have stuck
men there are women. Yep, that women have these expectations. No,
it's on him, He's going to feel emasculated. But also
the fact that Mike feels good about himself for being

(01:26:55):
rich supposedly, or is cocky because he's rich. Supposedly that's
also bad. So men need to what is it, earn
their women? What did she say? She said Jordan won't
be able to earn sparkles, right, she won't be he
won't be able to afford sparkles. Right, he won't be
able to earn Sparkles, and he's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Feel emasculated and he's gonna feel masculin immature. But like,
what does that mean though, because it couldn't her finding
him immature just mean he's not making enough money.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Yeah, that's that's basically what it means. He's not ambitious,
he doesn't make nyos, Okay. But my point is that
she says that Jordan won't be able to afford sparkles. Yeah,
and at the same time, and Jordan is going to
feel masculated. Well, you're just emasculated him, myrony, You're just

(01:27:52):
emasculated him by saying you're just saying that he's not
What is emasculation, It's saying to a man you have
no worth. What do you mean? What do you think
it meant when you said Jordan can't afford sparkles? It
means that you think he has less worth byrony. Byrony,

(01:28:15):
it means that you are emasculating him. You are judging
him on the scale. This is the scale. Top is
man is good provider, bottom is man is not a
good provider, right, and this is this is masculated, and
this is emasculated and you are judging him on that scale. Byrony,
where do you think? Do you think men are complete?

(01:28:38):
They just they just don't notice this. You think your
husband or your boyfriend doesn't notice this byrony, byrony, he
doesn't notice that you judge him based on his finances. Well,
you certainly don't trust him based on your finances. But anyway,
let's uh, let's finish this off. And actually, before we

(01:28:59):
finish it off, just one last thought, sorry, Brian. She
is reading a lot into him, into Jordan being nervous
about meeting Sparkle's family. She is reading a lot. And
what's interesting, she didn't read that whole hell of a
bunch into Sparkles meeting Jordan's family, at least his baby

(01:29:25):
mama and his son. She didn't read all that into that.
Maybe he's just nervous because he wants to give a
good impression on the fourth anniversary of Sparkle's father's death. Like,
maybe he's a little nervous about the impression he's giving this.
This woman is so uncharitable. I mean, a man breathes

(01:29:51):
in front of her and she's like, why did you
steal my oxygen? Why are you stealing women's oxygen? Do
you think you're tired to oxygen? Like, oh, okay, sorry,
go ahead, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
When women feel a negative emotion, it's because of something
men did to them. When men feel a negative emotion,
it's because of some insecurity that men have.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
So it's men's fault both ways.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
I mean yeah, not like a nice couple, it's just
the reality of that. And like all of that messaging
from the patriarchy, and it will eat away at his
male ego.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
That's why I think then we see Nick.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
The radio waves from the patriarchy, patriarchy radio Tower Central
send out the patriarchal waves of insecure masculinity target this man.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Yeah, it's not going to come from his wh is
uh Sparkles, It's not going to come from people like
buyering Byrony, which it just did. You just saw that, right,
you saw what she did it's not going to come
from her. It's gonna come from this mysterious patriarchy. Except
the patriarchy seems to have a voice like, ah, I
just can't believe you don't. Ah, you can't earn her,

(01:31:08):
you haven't earned her. She's the table. What are you
you have? And it has a suspiciously falsetto voice, this patriarchy,
a suspiciously feminine voice. Oh wait, actually you know what.
It's the women around him that are receiving the patriarchal

(01:31:29):
vibes and then shaming him. You see, Byrony just briefly
just tuned into a patriarchal radio wave when she said
that he can't afford her.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Okay, yeah, I keep going, Or is there another time? Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Wait fifty eight, let's go to fifty eight. It's a
final fiping time. Gode fifty eight to fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
Fifty eight fifty Yes, Sparkles and Jordan may get married,
but then I think that they would actually break up
because of the financial issues and him feeling emasculated by
her being in that position of power over him, because
it is recognized that having more money does put you
in a position of power.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
I think that what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Inherently materialistic view, by the way, So basically he admits
that when men have more money than women in relationships,
despite the fact that men like who has more money
doesn't mean anything as much as who money is spent on,
that means that those men have power over women. But

(01:32:42):
when women make more money, the men like that, Like
relationships can't work because men feel emasculated and secure, not
because women are like thinking of themselves I can do better,
which is like more likely the case, but whatever, I mean,
I'm not saying that there can be a relationship where
makes more and she's with a man because she loves

(01:33:03):
him and it doesn't really matter. But most of the
time that's not how it goes. It's just the truth
is women want security, they expect it from men, and
if a man makes less, they feel less secure, even
if the woman has more.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Yeah, and also Byrony totally buys into judging men on
this metric. Otherwise she would never framed it as he
can't afford her, all right, He never never framed it
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Yep, Okay, it's a job.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Yeah, it is a job.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
I mean, he's obviously able to sustain himself and his son,
so anyway, So they keep.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Going, yeah, sure, let's finish off, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
That position of power over him, because it is recognized
that having more money does put you in a position pala.
I think that anim will figure out that Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Not if not if the government takes the money from
you and gives it to someone else. Okay, So that's
basically her her her, her overall statement. Okay, I'll just
read this out. Byrony predicts that Sparkle and Jordan may
get married but could break up due to financial issues.
In Jordan's insecurities, which incidentally he never mentions, and her

(01:34:27):
entire source of is maybe some some things the ways
he's looked during the thing, and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
His awkward at times.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
He has been awkward at times, I think specifically when
she was talking about how much it costs to look
like her, and he also was nervous meeting her family.
That's what Byrony is basing this entire analysis on his insecurities.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
They're just simply implied.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
There's something implied. This is part of her overall show recap. Okay.
Barroney presents Jordan and Sparkle as one of the healthier
and more empathetic couples on the show, highlighting Jordan's maturity empathy,
especially regarding his son Luca. She contrasts Jordan's behavior positively
against more manipulative male contestants like Mike. However, she also
expresses concern about their relationship's long term viability, particularly due

(01:35:23):
to financial disparities in Jordan's potential feelings of emasculation as
conjectured by Byrony. But let's face it, she'd say that
about any man with this scenario, that it would be
his feelings of emasculation that would undermine the relationship, not
her leaving because she thinks he should bring something more

(01:35:43):
to the table. Throughout these discussions, Byrony uses various Okay,
that's irrelevant. Okay, So that's her conclusion. And I just
wanted to compare that with Mike, because Mike is apparently
more wealthy. But he's no good because he's immature or something,
or he'snipulative, or he was he was cocky about his

(01:36:04):
wealth or whatever else. I mean, he's a fine. But again,
all of this reflects on all men, not just Cherry.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
None of the men on the show were good enough
for the blood count, none of them. They all like
even the one that she found the most sympathetic. She
criticized for being immature and like unable to handle a
woman that has more and his girl bossing harder or whatever.
I don't even think Annie is a girl boss. I
think that she's just like you. Inherited a lot of

(01:36:37):
money from family. She literally.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Jordan was with Sparkles. Nick.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
I'm sorry, Yeah, Sparkles is what I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Not sorry, it's entrepreneur is Megan. She just calls herself
Sparkles is a nickname.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Yea, she is released nickname.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
She really punching above her her weight with him in
terms of his looks.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Well, I don't know if you can say that. That
sounds like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
No, seriously, you have to subtract the makeup. Yeah, she's
she's definitely mid and he's probably a good two points
higher than her in reality, because you know, yeah, not
just look at what she looks like. Here you gotta
subtrap the makeup and even here she's she looks like

(01:37:34):
there's about at least a one point disparity on the
looks match scale. And uh yeah, so she's punching well
above her weight in terms of her looks. There. Well,
you know you gotta you gotta compromise somewhere Byrony. He's
obviously bringing something to the table. It may not be money,

(01:37:58):
but anyway, So I mean, it's just like this is
so infuriatingly shallow. Again, it's all constructed Byrony of course
looks at this and says, this is reflection of reality,
which is really the big problem. And none of the
men are good enough. And this guy, there's nothing freaking
wrong with him. She had to invent something wrong with him.

(01:38:21):
I can only imagine what she must be like in
a relationship, right, do you have an insecurity? You looked
at me strange. I thought I chained you down to
the floor so you couldn't look at me, but you did.
I got to tighten the chains, put some spikes in

(01:38:43):
through your feet, like, oh, could you like just imagine
what it must be like with you with this. The
thing is that she has the audacity to lecture people
about their relationship when she is an entire Chinese parade
of red flag.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
Like the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Complete lack of all the sorry, the continuous reading bad
faith into everything. Yeah, so what if Mike was manipulative?
He's on a manipulative show. I'm trying to win in
this manipulative circumstance where they commodified the process of human

(01:39:27):
courtship and performing families a sacred thing and that's been commodified.
It's all grotesque and she's like picking, she's like picking
through the shit patty for the particularly disgusting nuggets. Well,

(01:39:47):
it's all grotesque because you are taking something that is
sacred and you're shoving it into the public eye as entertainment. Yep, okay,
all right, so Porto Jordan Polo is weird and yes,

(01:40:10):
two points higher. Yeah, okay, I don't know what else
to say about this. Like I again, we could have
gone through the most of it or a good portion
of it, but I felt like zeroing in on the money.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
I think that makes I think this is like an
hour long video about a reality TV show.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Yeah there already there are people who do.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Much better jobs of this than Priority because they don't
apply the intersectional lens to it and just ship on
the men. Usually it's like making fun of the absolute
train wreck. People like just their behavior and it has
nothing to do with their sex or their beliefs or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
So but this, this show has actually I did an
analysis and this show has changed over the years and
the criticism of the people on it has changed. So
initially it was more balanced, then it became in the
mid seasons it started to move towards like mean girl
behavior because there was a lot of clique and gossiping

(01:41:16):
and bullying and stuff like that going on on the
woman's side. And then in the later seasons, which might
correspond with me too, they started to bring in this
analysis of the toxic male behavior and connect it with
like systems of systeming, system naticness.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
I don't think women understand the word system to be honest,
but regardless, this is what they did. So they brought
in more of that, and so this byrony is sort
of feeding on that. It's on the general cultural consensus
that men are the problem. In this show that specifically
finds problematic men, edits them to make them even more

(01:41:55):
problematic and dramatic in their problems and presents them out
of context to create outrage. So women have gone to
the dessert tray, like the dessert cart, and they have
found dessert women most affected. They have gone to the

(01:42:21):
thing that specifically manufactures bad male behavior, that packages manufactures
it and presents it to women and they have found
this thing. Aren't men ashamed? You should be ashamed, guys.

(01:42:41):
Women have found mad male behavior at the factory that
produces and packages it for their consumption. Don't you feel ashamed?

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
Yeah? Do you feel ashamed, Brian all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
But do you feel sufficient amounts of it? Do do
you feel ashamed that women have found bad male behavior
in this piece of media specifically designed to find it,
showcase it, and deliver it up to them?

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Is that a rhetorical question? I mean, I don't know
they're looking, they're looking for it, So yeah, I'm not
I'm not ashamed, but I'm also not surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Yeah, I'm just like yeah, and this is just gonna
keep going. They're just going to keep doing this. Like
all this proves is that Byrony is addicted to demonizing men.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
You know. And again we could go look at the
examples that these specifically created, packaged and delivered examples of
bad male behavior that she is pointing to in a
medium that is specific doing this to a doing this
for a female audience, to specifically create outrage. And she's
looking at this product that she is consuming and saying,

(01:44:10):
look at how this proves that men are bad. Right,
She's she's gone to the men or bad factory and
found that men are bad, and she's and and this
is just gonna like. There's a market for this. There
is media constructing this, and there is a tarpet of

(01:44:30):
women consuming it. And that's the takeaway. M all right, okay,
so okay, So I will if you want to, if
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(01:44:53):
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(01:45:16):
push back against this. Somebody has to say this is insanity. Right,
going to the man bad factory and finding men bad
men and then saying look how bad men are is insanity.
This is insanity. Must just like set aside the fact
that it's misinery. This is insane. This is eating your

(01:45:41):
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(01:46:03):
feed the Badger dot com slash support ship. I used
the O word and h yeah, do we get any
super cells? It's been quiet. I think everybody got screwed
around with the multiple published public published.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Yeah, they migrated to the right place though we did. Yeah,
we do have people here, although not the usual. Just
like there's no great indoors, there's no ritual great indoors.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Might be might be going to bed at this hour.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Yeah, I guess it's late for him. But yeah, I
mean I see people on there, and like our vertical
got two hundred and sixty nine views. Okay, that's that's
pretty I mean the people didn't really stick around, but
they popped in said a few things. Hello Martin whatever
your name is from Czechoslovakia. Martin, Yeah, it says I check,

(01:46:57):
So I don't know. I mean, hello, looks. Yeah, so hello,
it's probably really late where you are too, all right,
but anyway, so what what are we doing now we've done?

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Or I I can't, I can't even not anymore. Let's
just let's call it a day. Byrony does that to.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
Me, she's draining. She drains the soul like a blood countess.
I'm gonna call her that from now on, and we're
gonna be responding to Briarty Claire. I'm gonna make it
fun for myself, so officially, now Briarny Claire is actually
Carmela the blood Countess, so anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Or Elizabeth Bathory thing Carmela Elizabeth Bathory, the blood Countess Bathory, Brianny.

Speaker 1 (01:47:48):
They basically sound the same. I'm guessing that's what it is.
So anyway, uh yeah, so we're gonna wrap it up
a what.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Oh Richard's here? Okay, actually this was a request.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
By Richard, so lurking. Oh it was shock.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Shock, she's been on a Byerny. Click. Actually, you know what, Richard,
if you want to do another request, find another crazy dumbass.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
It's all cancer to me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
So yeah, well, I mean one's worst is Sheira manifestel
Byrony Quick.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
I think Brianny tries to Like, I think Brianny tries
the hardest, like in terms of like formatting, because like
Shira barely speaks and manifestell like that she's just like
some She's like a horror monster from like it's like

(01:48:49):
one of those stalkers you know that you can't kill
and you're just at to avoid it leaves. It's like
something out of amnesia that yeah, like a jah one
of the like a Japanese ghost. Instead of instead of croaking,
she's like going on and on with vocal fry, which

(01:49:10):
is like its own kind of croak.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
You know. But oh man, god anyway, Yeah, so like.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
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