Slender Man Stabber Follow up, Italy Recognizes "Femicide" | HBR News 529

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is HBr News number five twenty nine. Slender Man
Stabber follow up Italy recognizes femicide where we discuss the
news of the week and give it the Badger treatment.
Hello everybody, and welcome back to Honey Badger Radio. I
hope you guys are doing well this week and that

(00:23):
you're laughing at all of this absurdity so that you
are not consumed by it. I'm your host, Brian. I'm
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and doctor Randamercam. We have a great show line up
for you guys this week, so please be sure to
continue the conversations both in the chat as well as
the comments section. On this week's show, we're going to
be doing a little bit of a follow up on
the slender Man stabbing. You guys might remember that, you

(00:45):
might not. It's it was kind of a weird one
so and there's actually some more weirdness that's come out
of that. There was a recent National Guard shooting. Not
the National Guard was shot at, not committing the shoot.
The shooting in our nation's capital DC. Italy made some
changes to its laws to basically like make women the

(01:07):
biggest victims of everything again and more so, stick around,
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right here, I have this article from the Times, which
I think is just the New York Times, but it's
because it's not just New York, it's the world now.
It's Globo Globo homo stuff. They have this article called

(01:29):
men are in Trouble. So you know, we have an
admission that men are in crisis of some of some kind.
There are problems, but whose fault is it? Like? Who's fault? Really? Like?
Not that you know, because some people just want to
get the problems addressed. Some people want to talk about
whose fault it is. So I don't know where they're

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Now let us get into today's stories, all right. So

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this one was brought to me by Mike J. Well.
I mean I picked the story out, but he is
the one who did the write up for it, and
I think it's worth pointing out because he did have
a little bit of an add on to this story
that he says a lot of people did not talk
about in the media. So, first of all, after a
short manhunt, Morgan Geyser has been arrested and her extradition

(03:47):
back to Wisconsin is underway. Geyser, as some may remember,
was one half of two slender Man stabbers who attempted
to kill a fellow female classmate in order to appease
the fictional horror monster man that originated from a creepypasta
on the website Something Awful. Geyser, I think her name

(04:07):
is Guyser g e y s e R. It could
be Gayser, but I'm gonna go with Geyser or Gozer.
They're all bad, really when you think about it, the
more Geezer Gayzer.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's probably pronounced geyser. That's at least that's where there
are geysers here in Ohio. Not obviously not the land type,
but that's actually worked first.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Like a Pokemon. It's not a land type. It's more
like a water type. Okay, Geyser, the more involved, Wait.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Till you hear the name of the other person of interest.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah. Right. Guyser, the more involved of the two girls
in the crime, was given an initial sentence of forty
years in a mental institution, but was granted conditional release
earlier this year and was staying at a group home
while being made to wear a court mandated ankle monitor.
It was during this time at the group home that

(05:06):
Guyser began a friendship with Chad Mecca.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's not a name, the Virgin Jerusalem and the Chad Mecca.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's literally it's literally spelled that way of Chad Chad Mecca,
all right. So anyway, Mecca is nearly twice Guyser's age
at forty three years old, and calls himself Charlie. Let's see,
this is Chad Mecca, right, So yeah, a girlfriend, I

(05:41):
guess it. Calls himself Charlie, identifying as a male to
female transgender. Mecca claims the two of them met at
church and formed a deep bond. What kind of church
was that, I don't know. Guys Are allegedly confided in
Mecca her desire to escape due to her fears of
the group home not allowed Mecca to visit her. Mecca

(06:02):
also believed that the group home was mistreating her. Eventually,
Mecca was denied visitation with Geyser, but he continued meeting
her in secret, climbing to her second story window to
do so. Mecca alleges that Geyser became emotionally distraught after
he was forbidden from visiting her, claiming she said the
following quote, guys are sobbed. She's like, they'll take away

(06:24):
our visitation. Charlie, Please, you're my best friend, and you
know that before you showed up, I was ready to
drink bleach and just all this stuff and think of
it and think of it. She already made it clear
I didn't go whether or not she was still going,
and she was not going back to jail, and I
know what that means. End quote. Shortly after, Mecca helped

(06:48):
Geyser cut her ankle monitor and escape the group home,
she was gone for over twelve hours before the home
notice and alerted the police. They were ultimately found and
arrested a few days later. Roughly one hundred and seventy
miles from the group home, just a few dozen miles
south of Chicago. The two boarded a bus but eventually
continued to flee on foot. Soon after, Geyser injured her

(07:09):
foot and the two attempted to camp out around a
truck stop, but were contacted by the police for loitering
after being evasive and you guys thought loitering as a
silly crime to put to prosecute. After being evasive when
asked for her name, Guyser eventually told the police everything
and both her and Mecca were arrested. Mecca was booked
on criminal trespaths and obstruction, but was released in the morning. Meanwhile,

(07:34):
Geyser has waived her extradition trial and is set to
be returned to Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
It's it's It's like Mohammed in the Mountain, isn't it.
If the Giza won't go to Mecca, then Mecca must
go to the Giza.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
You're gonna say, out of the way because.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I have a lot, Okay, go ahead, but yeah, this
is already a Netflix series in the making. It is
already in the works, you know it is. It's got everything.
A mentally ill, poor little white girl who didn't do nothing,
and a looney truon groomer who didn't do nothing, falling
into a semi demonstratial non binary relationship and going on

(08:18):
the lamb to escape from the evil patriarchy and getting
into some wacky hijinks with it.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
It's a modern day Felman Louise.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, and yet they're going to get into wacky hijaks
where they kill a bunch of evil white cisgendered men.
I mean, they probably didn't in real life, but it's Netflix.
Historical accuracy is not exactly a priority. They'll give us
whatever white liberal college educated women want to see, and

(08:47):
what white liberal college educated women want to see is
white men getting erased and replaced and destroyed. Normally, they
do it by replacing male characters with a pretty young
girls and we've hardened troons. But this time they don't
even have to those are already the main characters. I mean,
obviously they'll have to make Morgan Geezer black. That goes

(09:11):
without saying. And they'll have to make Chad mecher Well
a Muslim. That's a trick they can't possibly miss. It's
staring them right in the face. Do you reckon they'll
get away with that, making making the trun Muslim. It's
making the white, liberal, college educated girls weak at the
knee just thinking about it. But I'm not sure how

(09:32):
the Muslims would react. Is that the kind of representation
they're looking for. It's okay, it's not like he became
a trap to rebel against Islam. We all know Islam
is perfectly tolerant when it comes to these things. It's
not like he has to escape. He's escaping the evil
white patriarchy and he's abducting a young white girl along
the way. Oh yeah, that might, that might, that might

(09:55):
hit a little too close to home. Not because Muslims
do that. They absolutely not, But there's this rumor, this vicious,
unfounded rumor going around that they do do that. Hey,
this is a perfect opportunity to tell a deep, compassionate
story that debunks these harmful stereotypes. Just because he's a

(10:17):
Muslim in this remake doesn't necessarily mean he was grooming
this young lady. And just because he's a trap doesn't
mean he was grooming this young lady. What just highlight
how innocent and wholesome it is for a middle aged
trap to traffic a criminal girl across the country for
no reason other than they're perfectly normal, perfectly platonic relationship.

(10:42):
It's a perfect opportunity to show these evils, dis gendered
white men that this sort of thing doesn't happen all
the time, and when it does, there's always a reasonable
explanation for it. They're just friends, you know, They're just friends,
travel across the country to get away from it all
and occasionally murdering people because you know, you've got to

(11:05):
break a few eggs, like Buddy and Clyde, like as
you said, like the Thelmina Luise, like Lee, Low and Stitch,
but SpongeBob and Patrick, like Burton, Ernie fun, nice, glove, youth, beautiful.
I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh boy, I'm not even sure where to start here.
Like this is this is this is one of those uh,
this keeps on giving, all right, this is going to
turn into a female Christian. And yes, I just denied

(11:47):
Chris Chian's chosen gender because I think he was manipulated
into that by trolls. So let's start with the fact.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
That I'm speaking in a somewhat professional capacity with regard
to group homes because I don't. I don't work in
one all the time that has a large group, but
I work with intellectually disabled adults.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
And while there's a difference, significant difference in fact, between
intellectual disability and mental health conditions and how they manifest,
there's often a lot of overlap in the disabilities world.

(12:34):
Physical disabilities, mental health conditions, and mental difficulties like intellectual disabilities,
often manifest in the same person after birth, injuries occur
and things like that, or due to genetics, or due
to bad upbringing, or a combination thereof, and I think

(13:00):
in this case there might be more than just mental
health condition there. Upbringing is a major part of this.
Main character syndrome is something that I think a rather
large number of young American females and maybe young European

(13:25):
females as well, go through. In fact, I think, and
I've seen it referred to an anime too, but not
as main character syndrome, as like eighth grader syndrome, which
basically you hit an age where you have to make

(13:45):
the decision that playing pretend all the time and pretending
your pretend that you're playing all the time is something
real and tangible and solid that if you do things
in the real world, guided by it, and with the

(14:08):
intent for them to go the way that your fantasy
says they're going to go that somehow they will like
that hits at about twelve to fourteen years in Girls
and Where Boys, you know, they get smacked in the
face with reality. No, you are not conan a barbarian. No,

(14:31):
you are not a real fireman, real police officer, real soldier,
real whatever insert superhero fantasy character, a job that grown
ups do here, and you can't just run around doing
stuff like that. I think my brother was younger than that.

(14:52):
I would have been twelve, so he would have been
ten when we got to go see Ronald Reagan speak
at the train depot in Lima and Is because he
was coming through in a train and he spoke from
the train and then he left on the training, never
got off the train, so that's where the speech was

(15:12):
done because that's that's where he wasn't he wasn't going
into the community, which sometimes he did, because there was
a tank plant there. There is I think still a
tank plant there. I think Trump reopened it. But in
any case, you rather wanted to play secret serviceman, and

(15:33):
he really was very adamant that he wanted to bring
his his you know, walkie talkies and his toy guns
and his ten year old kid, you know, and Mom
had to explain to him that you cannot even carry
a pretend gun anywhere near the President of the United
States anywhere that Secret Service can see you, because then
they might have to pay attention to you instead of

(15:55):
somebody who might be dangerous. And this, this is a president,
by the way, that somebody did shoot at, although I
think at that point he hadn't hadn't been shot at yet.
But you know, given and my brother was disappointed. Little
boys like to play their games, They're going to be disappointed.

(16:16):
But he had been raised as a boy to understand
that just because you're disappointed doesn't mean that you have
a right to do the thing you wanted to do
and be accommodated, right. And I was raised the same way,
not because of any boy girl thing, but because that's

(16:37):
just the way my family is. You get over it,
You learn that not everything goes the way you want
it to. Not everything that you think is going to
be fun is something that you get to do, and
not every pretend game that you play is something that
you can just immerse yourself in all the time and

(16:58):
never leave. In my family, I don't think we had
a single kid who had a pretend friend for like
more than five minutes, you know. And not condemning families
that encourage imagination in their kids, but there's a limit
and the development of this type of mental illness, this

(17:21):
main character syndrome, eighth grader syndrome, whatever you want to
call it, these delusional syndromes where the individual thinks something
pretend is real to the degree that they act on it.
The behavior doesn't happen in a vacuum. You know, that

(17:43):
they're at home with mom and dad or just mom,
and I don't remember in this case whether there was
mom and dad or just mom, but they've got people
around them that they have to either hide the behavior
from or that those people have to tolerate the behavior,

(18:03):
and both indicate different problems. If you can behave this
way this much and nobody knows it, that's a problem.
But if you can behave this way this much and
your parents are just like, oh, okay, well that's her imagination,
and you know she's just running with it, big deal,
you know, Okay, Both of those are bad. Right. So

(18:26):
this individual is in this setting and that was a
parental failure. That was the first failure that this girl experienced,
this woman experience, and that was during her childhood.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
So she goes to court, she gets that identified that
this is due to mental health conditions, that she needs
to not just be locked up, but be locked up
somewhere where she has to go through therapy and start
to learn to differentiate between fantasy and reality, start to
treat the symptoms of her mental health condition and cooperate

(18:59):
with that. And when she comes out of there, she's
in what a lot of people think of as a
half way house, but a group home, four people with
her weaknesses. Right. Your job as a worker in a
home like that is to monitor the welfare and the condition,

(19:20):
the mental and physical condition of the individual in the home.
And there are things that we have to know about
our residents. In my end of that, where I'm working
with people whose primary condition is intellectual disability, and they

(19:42):
may have psychological disabilities as secondary conditions, they may have
physical disabilities as secondary conditions, but their primary condition, their
primary reason for being with my companies is intellectual disability. Right.
One of the things that One of the characteristics that
we learn about a person under our care is whether

(20:04):
or not they are a flight risk, a fright. A
flight risk is somebody who might wander off. It doesn't
even mean run away. It just means somebody who might
leave and place themselves in an a loane situation or
a without support situation that they are not supposed to
be in. Some people are in such a condition that

(20:26):
under their care plan they have no alone time aside
from you maybe stepping out of the bathroom, so they
have privacy when they're doing their business and you not
being in the same room with them when they're sleeping.
But aside from that, they are under You know, there
are people that are under complete constant care and if

(20:48):
they were to, for instance, just open the door and
go outside, that might be enough to classify them as
a flight risk if they might do that without asking
or talking to someone and asking, hey, come with me.
So the people that worked with this scal should have
had a similar designation on her like she should have.

(21:13):
Generally speaking, she'd have an individual service plan similar to
an individual education plan in a school system. They write
down what the characteristics of the individual are, what the
needs are, for treatment, what the needs are for support,
say a direct support professional that works with people with

(21:34):
mental health conditions or intellectually disabled adults. What supports that
individual needs in order to be safe, healthy, and have
a day that doesn't go wrong every day, And and
that's it. So, if she's managed to escape this, somebody

(21:56):
probably wasn't doing their job properly. And at the same time,
it's quite likely that if this individual that climbed into
her house to get to her was able to get
access to her repeatedly, somebody wasn't doing their job. I

(22:19):
would know if somebody came in and interacted with one
of my clients, because I would be right there. They'd
have to go right past me to get to them.
And similarly, if I was working with someone like her,
knowing her history, just the history that's been reported in
the news, you know, there's a level of vigilance that

(22:40):
you're supposed to have. Now, why am I talking about
all this because that job is primarily done by women.
And I've noticed, like there's a lot of things that
happen in the news that occur with people with intellectual

(23:02):
disabilities or mental health conditions that my company would go
ballistic if one of us let that happen. We had
one employee not long ago get into trouble, and the
entire company has made like massive changes and there's been

(23:24):
a bunch of improvements, and we've all had to learn
new things and answer for things just like changes and
so on. Not something I can get deeply into, but essentially,
when something even something small, were to happen, but when

(23:45):
something big happens, they want to make sure it never
happens again, because their whole goal in doing a job
like this and having a company that does a job
like this, or being a provider for the state in
a job like this, is to prevent things like this
from happening. And so I hope that there's a similar

(24:11):
reckoning happening in the company that serves the individuals at
this woman's group home. And the other aspect of this
is there is a reason that I'm talking about this is,
like I said, there's a dignificant difference between how boys

(24:32):
are treated when they try to make their real life
all about their fantasies at that age, versus how girls
are treated. And it's boys are it's recognized that boys
should grow up at that point. It isn't always recognized

(24:54):
that girls need to grow up at that point, and
so that kind of behavior is more tolerated. People think
it's cute and it's not, and people people act like
it's harmless, and clearly it's not, considering that she and
the gal she was engaging in the behavior with tried
to kill someone, and that and then the the last

(25:18):
bit of this, obviously is the the trune that that
is pursuing her, the trune that is preying on her,
someone that is clearly not a real trends individual but
a woke, ideal, ideological nutbag who has identified being trands

(25:43):
as something that you can, you know, you can use
as a shield against all forms of criticism. Identified that
because being female gets treated as a shield that you
can use against all forms of criticism until you try
to kill somebody, or until you kidnap and run away

(26:05):
with somebody who has a mental health condition, and therefore
you're suddenly able to be recognized as dangerous because there
were consequences that other people can't ignore. I think that
that kind of behavior that I will disguise myself as

(26:25):
a transwoman so that I can have access to potential
victims that behavior will end the day that it becomes
a non issue to criticize behavior, even if somebody is female,
even if somebody identifies as female, even if somebody is

(26:47):
in a minority group, even if that minority group is tiny,
and even if that minority group has historical victimhood from
having been discriminated against and wrongly treated as pre editors
when they weren't right. We still have to be able
to recognize that it is predatory for someone to do

(27:10):
something like that, no matter who they are, no matter
what demographic they came from, no matter what some other
people in the past did to some other people in
the past, This person standing before you right now did
something harmful to another person. That's the factor that you

(27:31):
should be addressing. And it does not matter who they are,
It does not matter what excuses they make for it.
If they did it on purpose, and they knew, because
when you sneak into somebody's house, that is a clear
indicator that you know what you're doing is wrong. You

(27:52):
don't have to sneak around to do something that is okay.
So they knew that it was unacceptable, they knew that
it was wrong, They knew right he knew that he
was kidnapping a mentally ill woman and running off with her.
That's something that we should be able to criticize without

(28:15):
caring whether he identifies publicly as female, calls himself, trans
dyes his hair green, wears a dress, and plays victim.
When you start criticizing the behavior, I don't care. I
don't care who you are. Don't commit crimes, don't victimize somebody.

(28:36):
And similarly, this girl, I don't care who you are.
Being female doesn't give you the excuse to try to
kill your friend, doesn't give you the excuse to live
in a fantasy world. And parents shouldn't be allowing their
children to go down that rabbit hole. I mean, for

(28:58):
fuck's sake. Slenderman started out as a joke. It was
a gag on the internet. Like it wasn't just a
creepy pasta before it was a creepy pasta, it was.
It was a joke, item made in a photoshop battle.

(29:20):
I don't even know how to stress how insane it
is to create a reality. To turn that into your
own personal psychological tulpa and do what she did. Right,
if your parents are allowing you to do stuff like that,
if you're in your twenties and you think you know
you're you're secretly from another universe or being pursued by

(29:48):
some creepy pasta monster, like if you think the Siren
Thing is after you, or or you know you know
that there's a skin walker outside of your house in
New Jersey. Get help. Your parents are not doing you
any favors by allowing that, and you should stop it.

(30:10):
You should put a stop to it. Anybody that's associated
with you that is feeding into it, you should stop
hanging out with those people because you're you're you're being harmed,
and you're harming yourself and you're gonna end up doing
something stupid like this. The final thing that I will
say about this is I just the thing that I

(30:32):
really just cannot get over. It's just the fact that
all of this people talking about this on the internet
are probably going to ignore most of the factors that
I just brought up, and it is going to be

(30:52):
fodder for I mean, this is this is this girl
is going to be treated like a low cow. The
individual who took her is going to be treated like
a lowld cow. And if there's a reckoning in whatever
organization runs the home that she escaped from Nobody will

(31:13):
know about it, and probably other homes and other organizations
won't even have a response. They won't do any self examination,
they won't have any concern that, gosh, could this happen
to us, right, and they won't change anything because if
companies were doing that, the Christian incidents would have led

(31:35):
to some examination that might have prevented this from happening. So,
like sadly, my bottom line on this is, don't let
teenage girls be kids longer than you let teenage boys

(31:56):
be kids, because you end up with adult women who
are kids. They can be dangerous, and don't let somebody's
demographic association with some sort of historical victimhood be a
shield against criticism for behavior that is dangerous, destructive, and
potentially criminal, and you won't have problems like this.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, I can't wait for the Netflix adaptation of this,
starring Cynthia Rivo and Ariana Grande, So I mean that's
probably gonna win all the awards. I got a super
chow from Richard Pierre who gives us five dollars and says,
there was that one after school special Mazes and Monsters

(32:44):
that touched on something like this. It also caused a
panic about role playing games. Was that after School was
like a movie. Yeah, tom ye yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
So I had something to say about that too, all right,
So the Monsters claim to be based on a true story,
it wasn't. And I did a research paper on this
because of my parents' response to that movie. And also
there was a pamphlet.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
It was kind of.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
In the vein of chick publications, but it wasn't in
the style of chick publications that the title of it
was something like parents, don't let your kids play Dungeons
and Dragons or something like that, and it both of
these things failed to differentiate between an individual who sits

(33:42):
in a room with other friends and rolls dice and
uses rule books and plays out a story and then
goes home and is not still stuck in the story
and doesn't obsessively do that when they're supposed to be
doing other things like homework or going to their job

(34:03):
or taking a shower, you know, and people who never
never stop fantasizing. What I learned when I did my
research on this to prove to my parents that it
was not dangerous to me to play this game was

(34:25):
that there have been incidents where bad things have happened,
and people have associated the bad things with dungeons and dragons,
But in every instance there was another factor. One kid
committed suicide. He had surrounded himself with elements of darkness,

(34:49):
like he was all into symbols of Satanism and everything,
and he had made false associations between types of music
and Satanism and the games he was playing in Satanism.
He was using drugs, and he had a mental health
condition that often blurs the lines between fantasy and reality

(35:13):
and in fact can actually make your perceptions difficult for
your brain to analyze. And he committed suicide. And there
were some indications that he thought a monster was after him, right,
but it wasn't a D and D monster, And there
were not actual indications that this was set off by

(35:36):
this game or that the game contributed in any way.
When you know, there were serious indications that the mental
illness did, and that the drugs he was using exacerbated
the problem, and that he didn't get any help from
anybody in pulling himself out of that, were getting treatment

(36:01):
to prevent that, and and so he ended up as
a statistic a lot of suicide in that particular mental
health condition. There were several other cases where things occurred,
crimes occurred, injuries occurred, uh, there were there were there
was violence, and there were failures in failures to launch

(36:24):
and things like that that in each instance, the individual
had a drug problem or a reality bending mental health
condition that wasn't properly being handled and was the individual
was not properly being supervised by their parents, and the

(36:47):
game was marginal in terms of their life, like, it
wasn't the main thing they were doing. It wasn't the
main thing related to the cause of the issue, the
outcome that they had. Each time parents were using let's
blame this game as a means of avoiding finding out, gosh,

(37:11):
where did we fail our kid? And in most of
those cases the individual was male. So all of the
history of Dungeons and Dragons causes people to go crazy
and forget that they're not in the middle of a
fantasy role playing game all the time, and so no,

(37:35):
it's bullshit. Just like television doesn't cause kids to become violent,
violence on television doesn't cause kids to become violent, violence
in video games doesn't cause kids to become violent. Violence
in the home does, but violence on video games and
television does not. Rock and roll music and heavy man

(38:00):
music do not cause kids to become satanic. And a
lot of people that are associating most of this music
with satanism are misinterpreting a lot of stuff in the music,
not just a little bit, but to the degree that
their their interpretation is one hundred and eighty degrees wrong

(38:22):
from the original meaning of the music they're interpreting. So
there's a ton of this, and it's always been this way.
Parents don't like to admit when they've made a mistake.
They didn't do something for their child that they should
have done and the child had a consequence that they

(38:44):
shouldn't have had to face. Or they did something thinking
it was the best thing they could do for their
child and the child had an adverse consequence from the
thing that mom and dad did, So they blame anything
and everything other then I should have gotten my kid help,

(39:04):
or I should not have trusted the doctor that only
gave my child pills and didn't try any type of
behavioral modification therapy. I believe the first thing I heard
and had part of my child's flesh amputated, thinking that
it would prevent something that the child is still vulnerable
to but now thinks he's not and is going to

(39:26):
take higher risks, and you know, and so on, and
as a result, again you end up with situations like
this like we're discussing here, and at no point will
anybody turn around and suggest that perhaps parents should have

(39:47):
been more involved, and maybe they weren't as involved as
they should have been. Maybe they weren't as knowledgeable as
they should have been. You know, maybe they weren't as
hard on the kid they should have been.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
All Right, thank you for those thoughts. I also got
a super child from Meredith G who gives us five
dollars and says HBr News number five twenty nine, Honey,
for the badgress, Thank you, Meredith, really appreciate it. Okay,
let's get into the next story. But let us know
what you guys think about this one in the comments. Yes,

(40:28):
these things get pretty wild, all right, ahem, we got
to talk about this. So on November twenty six, just
blocks from the White House in downtown Washington, d C,
twenty nine year old Afghan national raw and I apologize
if I butchered this pronunciation. Ramanula loachan Wal allegedly carried

(40:51):
out no, he did an ambush style shooting targeting two
uniformed members of the West Virginia National Guard. Wall, who
had driven thousands of miles cross country from his home
in Bellingham, Washington. That's Washington State, so Washington State to Washington, DC,
opened fire around two point fifteen PM, killing twenty year

(41:15):
old Sarah Beckstrom with multiple gunshot wounds and critically injuring
twenty four year old Andrew Woolf, who was shot several times.
One of the guardsmen returned fire, striking Lock Andwall in
the process. The attack unfolded on the eve of Thanksgiving,
prompting an immediate response from the Secret Service, Metropolitan Police,
and FBI, who secured the scene amid heightened security in

(41:38):
the nation's capital. Lock Andwall, a married father of five
who had resettled in the US in twenty twenty one
through Operation Allies Welcome. Yes, that Allies Welcome operation that
basically allowed a bunch of foreign nationals in after serving
over a decade in a CIA back It's Afghan Special

(42:01):
Forces zero Unit hunting Taliban commanders have been apparently or
at least allegedly grappling with severe mental health challenges since arriving.
Despite extensive vetting during his military service and a successful
asylum application granted in twenty twenty five, he struggled with
cultural isolation, poor English skills, PTSD, and manic episodes, often

(42:26):
isolating himself for weeks in dark rooms or embarking on
erratic cross country drives while unable to maintain employment. Case
workers noted his deepening crisis and lack of ongoing refugee support.
Though authorities have not confirmed any specific motive and are
investigating potential radicalization ties, Lackawall remains hospitalized and faces charges

(42:46):
including first degree murder. It's also worth pointing out he
did shout Allahu akbar as he was shooting at the
natural guardsman. It proves nothing, Yeah, purely just look, maybe
I did hear that, Maybe it was something else, but
that's that's what they're saying, The bigots are saying that.
So anyway, so this is a I don't know if

(43:08):
the other guy's recovered yet. He's in a critical condition,
I believe, so I don't know if he's expected to
pull through. But the other one was in fact killed.
So anyway, I leave you the guys.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
The floor or what we've what we've learned from this,
among other things, is that war is not always simply
a case of good versus evil. It's not even a
case of one side versus another. It's it's it's a polygon,
it's a do decahedron, it's a Rubik's cube of sides.
What we have here is a man who fought against

(43:41):
the Taliban, and so it's generally assumed that he's on
our side. But yeah, no, welcome to your rude awakening.
The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
Nor is the enemy of the enemy of your enemy
necessary necessarily your enemy, but they probably are. You should

(44:02):
probably assume by default that any given Afghanistani is probably
your enemy in potential, if nothing else. In fact, you
should probably consider the average world citizen as your enemy,
just to be safe. That doesn't mean you should shoot them.
It just means you probably shouldn't give them a gun
lest they shoot you. Can we perhaps float the notion

(44:27):
that the Taliban is what we call right wing, we
would have to break down what that means. It doesn't
mean white supremacist Christian contrary to Papa belief. Far from
it in the case of the Taliban, But they do
seem to be conservative along their own lines. They're in

(44:48):
favor of modesty even to a fault, and patriotism patriotism
even to a fault, and religious adherents even to a fault.
So someone who fights against the Taliban is not necessarily
on the side of the West. They might just be
on the side of what we call the left wing.
They want immodesty and global equality and religious nullification even

(45:15):
to a fault in the case of all of the above.
So if you take them out of Afghanistan and put
them in the United States, what do you suppose they
would do? They would look around them and think, Okay,
here I am doing what I do. What is the
American equivalent of the Taliban that I was fighting against?

(45:38):
Just now, Aha, I see you too have a right wing.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
You have.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Police forces that are here to conserve some kind of
status quo. Let me just turn on the TV for
a second. Aha. According to CNN and CBS and ABC
and fucking NBC, the ordinary American people in child of
these networks also feel like their authorities are overly conservative

(46:05):
to a fault. As a matter of fact, they feel
oppressed by nationalism and religiosity and modesty. Well, I know
what I must do. They must have brought me here
for a reason, after all, so you see what I mean.
As reductive as this left slash right description may be,
it doesn't matter which afghanis you're bringing into the country.

(46:30):
Their right wing will hate your country because it's not
their country, and their left wing will hate your country
because it's a country. It's just it's in their nature
to bring down the authorities of whatever country they happen
to be occupying. And that I can understand. I get
where they're coming from. I have something of a problem

(46:51):
with authority myself. But the thing about lefties is they
have no concept of left wing authorities. They assume that
whoever's in charge must be right wing, no matter how
left wing they in fact are. So when they turn
on the TV and they listen to these alphabet networks

(47:13):
brazenly inciting violence against the police and the president, they think, oh, man,
look at these brave freedom fighters on the TV pushing
back against the evil Empire. I should join them in
their struggle. It never occurs to them that what they're
watching on that TV is the evil Empire doing whatever

(47:36):
it can to propagandize everyone against the American people and
against their interests. And you can see why it's so confusing.
Surely the people in power, the people in charge of
the media, don't hate their own countrymen. Surely the mass
media wouldn't be biased against the people they're supposed to be.

(47:59):
So that doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't, And
it doesn't happen in the East, or in the Middle East,
or in Africa, at least not until they get hit
by the communism. Most countries, by default and their governments
and their media tend to be preoccupied with the interests

(48:20):
of their own country and their own people. It's mostly
in the West where these communication networks are under the
stranglehold of pathological ecophobes whose motors operanda is to undermine
and demoralize their own country and its people. Yes, folks,

(48:41):
I am once again blaming the media for everything. We're
not quite sure what this fella's motives were, But in
the meantime we can notice the media's response to this tragedy.
They didn't self reflect, they didn't question their own motives.
They didn't think, hmm, maybe this defund the police narrative

(49:04):
of ours isn't helping. Maybe our constant lenience in favor
of foreign criminals might be contributing to the rise in
crimes committed by foreign criminals. No, none of that. It
was just this is Trump's fault. If the evil Orange
Man hadn't put those police officers there in the first place,

(49:27):
they wouldn't have been shot. Yeah, they didn't think for
a moment. If Biden hadn't brought this criminal into the
country in the first place, he wouldn't have shot those
police officers. No, it's not the fault of the foreign criminals.
It's the fault of whoever is trying to protect the
general public from the criminals. Well, what it bis down

(49:51):
to is, it's not the fault of the Democrats ever,
It's the fault of the Republicans forever and always. And
it's because the Republicans are the Party of America first
and the Democrats are the Party of America last. Well,
the Republicans are the party of Israel first and America second.
But that's that's still far too patriotic as far as

(50:15):
the Democrats are concerned. As far as they're concerned, it's
got to be America coming one hundred and ninety third
out of one hundred and ninety three, because that's what
they call progressive. I feel like I say this every week,
but it's true. You could deport all the Afghanis, all
the Somalians, or whatever you could. You could send every

(50:37):
Third worlder back to the Third World and never let
them back in again. But you will still continue to
get overrun with domestically grown, violent psychopaths trying to kill
your country, one citizen at a time because the media
is telling them to. And I don't know how to

(50:59):
fix it. I don't know how to stop the George
Sorosses of the world from twisting everyone's arm. I don't
know how you rid the education system of all these
psychotic communists. All I can say is turn off the TV. People,
tell your friends and family to turn off the TV.

(51:19):
It is a box of black magic that hates you,
and it absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead.
But you can render it powerless if you simply turn
it off and never again tune into those alphabet networks.
You don't have to throw away your TV. Just don't
tune into the stations. Just run your PlayStation through it

(51:43):
and have a good time. You'll find far more salvation
and solidarity if you tune that shit out and let
those UHF waves pass harmlessly through you like neutrinos. By
the way, I am a doctor of randomers on cameras,
and this is expert advice. Do with it as you will.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
So there was one specific thing that I'm gonna latch
onto in this story because it really stuck out to
me like a sore thumb, and it's funny. It sort
of took me back to being a little kid. One
of the books I read when I was in early
elementary school. I want to say, I think it came out.

(52:31):
It might have been later than it might have been
later than that, so I'm thinking maybe I was in
junior high when I read it. But in any case,
this story was called Hello, my Name is Scrambled Eggs.
Probably if you were a kid growing up during Generation
X era, you ran into this book or had this

(52:52):
book recommended to you, And it was about a refugee
kid from Vietnam after the Vietnam War being integrated into
this family, you know, and his community, and the high
jinks that ensued. They sort of used humor to humanize
the situation. How different the culture and circumstances he was

(53:16):
coming from, were from the culture and circumstances he was
going into. And one of the things that stuck with
me about that was the support systems needed for refugees
coming from hillacious situations in foreign countries with dramatically different

(53:37):
cultures from our own to stay here for their own
safety and then trying to assimilate themselves in at least
to the degree that they can be part of their
local communities that they're going to be in here because
they may be here for the rest of their lives.

(53:58):
Things may never settle down in the home country. You
never know, right, So this one part of this paragraph.
He struggled with cultural isolation, poor English skills, PTSD, and
manic episodes, often blaming himself for weeks or blaming himself,
isolating himself for weeks in dark rooms, or embarking on

(54:19):
erratic cross country drives while unable to maintain employment. Caseworkers
noted his deepening crisis and lack of ongoing refugee support. Now,
why after decades of having systems in place to support
refugees from foreign wars, do we suddenly have this lack

(54:44):
of support? What has changed during say, the last ten
years that would cause that, oh, that's right. The United
States has been flooded with illegal immigrants making false claims
of refugee status on top of our actual refugee immigrants

(55:10):
coming in who actually deserve and need our assistance. And
so now all of these systems that are in place
to handle the smaller number of people in the world
who have these issues, who have come from war torn

(55:32):
areas where they are in danger for political reasons. The
people they were fighting against would kill them. Maybe they
would be killed for their religious views, maybe they would
be killed for having helped the United States with something
like there's not a prioritization of their needs. And we

(55:56):
used to have a very narrow like we help people
if we created the situation in their country by going
in and going to war in their country. The refugees
that came here from Vietnam came here with soldiers coming

(56:17):
home as part of an evacuation because of what we
did in their country, and the refugees from Afghanistan that
was the same situation, right, the refugees supposed refugees. The
massive number of people coming up from South America claiming

(56:40):
to be refugees, most of which were not. They didn't
come here necessarily because the United States gave them problems
in their country to flee. They came here to bring
those problems to US, where their nations have been taken

(57:05):
over by communist leaders or socialist leaders as a result
of maybe manipulation by the US government, maybe not, maybe
manipulation in their own country by their own people. And
many of them came here to bring communism, not to

(57:26):
escape it, not to escape a war environment or a
political environment created by US interference in their country, not
to create, and not to fue religious prosecution or persecution,
but as we were told to have a better life.

(57:50):
And of course these systems weren't grown, they weren't increased.
In fact, they were so overwhelmed that they lost three
hundred thousand kids or something some unacceptable number. One is
an unacceptable number. This was like the kind of unacceptable

(58:10):
number that when you hear it, your jaw drops and
you yell, what the fuck by the Biden administration. Just
kids that were just misplaced in the system. We don't
know where they are. We don't and we have found
some of them now that Biden's out of office, but
not all of them, and we'll probably never find all

(58:30):
of them. We might find out the terrible things happen
to some of them, and we won't find the children
because they're gone. And that's the reality of it. So
these systems have been overtaxed, overwhelmed, and underfunded, and now

(58:50):
we're in a situation where they can't differentiate between somebody
they should be paying closer attention to and somebody who's
just having a rough time. They should have paid very
careful attention to this man. This man should have been
brought in for help and for examination for this radicalization

(59:14):
that they're concerned about now. Instead he was left to
do what he ended up doing, and now we're here
talking about the potential causes. The causes are people decided

(59:35):
that the United States should take on all of the
world's problems and then didn't create systems capable of doing that.
And now that those people are out of office, the
current administration is trying to hold the bag and it's

(59:55):
too heavy, and people like this guy are falling falling
through it. This is probably not the last time we're
going to see something like this, and you should be
prepared to recognize that you can't just blame whoever's in
office right now. That this is a multi administration problem.

(01:00:20):
This goes back to Obama and probably before, although Obama
is the one that really started letting letting people in.
And unfortunately, I don't think that what we have in
place now is prepared to prevent future incidents like this

(01:00:43):
just yet. So two young people died, Two young people
that probably signed up for service to pay for college
died because of this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Yeah. I thought, as the National Guard when I was
going to college, they were using it to help pay
for the tuition.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I've had several friends in the National Guard, you know,
during the year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
And they were immigrants too, Yeah guys, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, And they didn't sign up just because they wanted
to be in the military. They signed up because the
ads basically said, primarily, you can get paid while you're
going to school. We will pay for your college tuition
and you get, you know, this much money, and in

(01:01:35):
some instances it can pay if you're going to a
community college, it can pay for your tuition and your
housing and everything. And then you'll come out of it
with skills that will help you get a job in
the future. And you know, so it's heavily marketed like that,
and it has been for decades and it's not false,

(01:01:58):
but it's it's not marketed with the other end of
the story. You know you're going to risk your life
as part of your job when you join any branch
of the military, even the part time branch, yea even

(01:02:19):
and there I think there are full timers in the
National Guard too, but it's still it's still considered like
the easiest, the least risky, and so on, out of
all the branches. It's like the polar opposite of the Marines.
But I think most of us that haven't done any
kind of military service have to acknowledge that they are

(01:02:40):
still soldiers and that they are still risking their lives
and that they are still at risk of being targeted
in incidents like this. But usually you don't expect it
to come from people in your own country that your
government supposedly vetted, you know, for being here. It's supposed

(01:03:03):
to be.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
You know, well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Get activated and you get stationed somewhere, and then you're
at risk after you've had all your your training and
you know everybody that's around you is at the same risk,
and you know in the moment that you're you're at risk.

(01:03:25):
You know as opposed to at that level of risk,
as opposed to having it come out of nowhere like this. Yeah,
the whole thing all around. It's a tragedy, but it
has to be put right at the feet of woke
politicians that acted like the US could just be the
problem solver for the entire world, and that it's it's

(01:03:48):
all good if we just take on it, take everybody
from the entire world into our country and treat them
all as refugees, but don't create a system capable and
we probably can't create a system capable of handling that
level and scope of refugee status.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Yeah, yeah, and uh, well uh and the people who
voted for it, and because they were part of this too,
And I don't know if anyone's gonna have a moment
of clarity with that. It's like the one thing that
we need is a little bit of humility and then
the uh, but no one is anyone gonna well, look,
I'll leave it to you guys, because we're gonna move

(01:04:28):
on to the next story. We still got two more
things to get to. But I just want to throw
in there. This guy serves over a decade in a
CIA backed Afghan special forces zero unit C.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I A I A being the the operative word there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
CIA is definitely the operative acronym.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
And then all of a sudden he was having like
PTSD episodes. Well, Press, I don't know, no, no, but
they're no, they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Did, they did claim the sudden thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Yeah, but they're claiming that he struggled with this stuff.
Oh yeah, but like if we're getting yeah, but who
are we getting this information from? Are we getting it
from the CIA? Because that's the thing, Like the CIA
have investigated themselves and they have found themselves innocent.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
If you're going to target somebody to do something bad
and you're going to exploit them for fodder for you know,
like gun control or some other issue, like maybe you're
sure trying to support.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Border immigration issue here, right, Yeah, So if if you're
going to use somebody for a syop, do you pick
somebody who is mentally healthy, stable, highly intelligent, has.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
No background issues, no stress issues, no anything like that
going on, or do you WHOA, this guy's got PTSD,
he's having manic episodes. You know, he's he's suffering from
extreme stress. He's having difficulty assimilating into the local culture.

(01:06:10):
He's isolating himself in the dark and behaving strangely, he
can't keep a job, like maybe this might be the
perfect guy. Of course those issues might be am I
I don't think those issues are fake. I think those
issues are the reason that he's targeted for a syop,
if he's If this is a siop, which is quite

(01:06:31):
clearly could be anytime the CIA is even remotely involved,
there there's a chance in the in the closer their involvement,
the greater the chance that this is a fucking syop. Right,
so they had direct involvement with this guy, and and
that chance exists. But if you look at all other
news reports about individuals who have been radicalized by FBI

(01:06:57):
agents or CIA agents who were just trying to catch
them in a crime that they were totally gonna do
before they got radicalized by the agents, that that it's
it's always somebody with like schizophrenia or PTSD, bipolar disorder,
antisocial personality disorder. It's never you know, Joshmo, ordinary person

(01:07:21):
mentally healthy, stable, goes to church every Sunday, hangs out
with a peer group that that would notice if something
was off, and so on, and so it has both
parents at home. You know, it's always somebody like this,
So yeah, it's not it's not surprising at all. But again,

(01:07:41):
you know, that's like one branch of the government, and
a lot of these situations you have this one branch
of the government doing you know, they they're not branch,
but department CIA is an agency within a department, and
and that department is doing those things. But the department
that handles support for refugees is a different department, different agency,

(01:08:02):
different people. They still had a chance to spot this
if they weren't overwhelmed by wrongful import of people who
aren't really refugees and labeling them refugees. They still had
a chance to spot this coming and do something about
it if if it wasn't for that overwhelming So, you know,

(01:08:26):
both issues are a problem. You we there has to
be some reigning in of the CIA and the entire
spy end of the Defense Department where they're not attacking
the stability of the United States anymore. That has to
change so that they're not doing that anymore. But at

(01:08:49):
the same time, you know, the issue of overwhelming false
refugee status and overwhelming these other systems, these support systems,
that has to be a too and this situation is
the perfect storm of both of those.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
M All right, well, yeah, let us know what you
guys think about this one of the comments. It's definitely, like,
you know, still fresh in people's minds, and if we
learn anything, we'll probably like follow up with whatever information
we get. But a lot of questions and I guess
we'll see in my thoughts go out to the survivors

(01:09:30):
of the murdered victim, and I hope the other guy recovers.
I don't really know where his status is at right now,
but we'll, yeah, we'll see, so we'll follow up with that.
But anyway, let's move on to the next one. All right,
this we're gonna get a little international. We're gonna talk
about Italy. So on November twenty fifth, coinciding with the

(01:09:52):
International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women. You
think we got it bad in America, Italy, his lower
house of Parliament, the Chamber of Deputies, unanimously approved a
groundbreaking law that formally introduces femicide, defined as the gender
motivated murder of a woman or girl, into the country's

(01:10:14):
criminal code. The legislation supported across the political spectrum, including
by Prime Minister Georgia Miloney's right wing government classifies femicide
as a distinct aggravated form of homicide punishable by life imprisonment,
the maximum penalty under Italian law. This move addresses a

(01:10:36):
persistent crisis, with Italy's National Institute of Statistics reporting one
hundred and six femicides in twenty twenty four alone, nearly
sixty percent committed by intimate partners or ex partners. The
laws passage was spurred by widespread outrage over high profile cases,
notably the twenty twenty three stabbing death of a twenty
two year old university student, Giulia ketchetin Hopefully I'm not

(01:11:01):
butchering that I'm sure I am, by her ex boyfriend,
which ignited nationwide protests and demands for stronger protections against
patriarchal violence. They literally framed it as patriarchal violence. While
hailed as a symbolic step towards eradicating gender based killings,
allowing for better tracking, study, and prosecution of such crimes,

(01:11:24):
Critics from the center left, opposition and women's rights advocates
argue it falls short, so it's not good enough. Apparently,
by focusing primarily on punishment, rather than prevention, education or
addressing socioeconomic factors like cultural isolation and economic inequality that
fuel domestic of views. Why don't we have some more
communism in Italy that'll address the problem, said the leftist women.

(01:11:48):
Despite these concerns, the unanimous vote marked a rare moment
of bipartisan unity in Italy's polarized parliament, with Maloney describing
it as a sign of political cohesion against the barbaric
nature of violence against women. And this picture is of
protesters or activists sort of in Italy celebrating or you

(01:12:09):
know this this I guess the day, the what is it?
The national This is in Italy, the the International Day
International for the Elimination of Violence against Women.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Some of you, some of you might be thinking right
wing government, my ass, this is what Stephan Maulin you
called socialism in panties aka feminism. But this is where
I regret to inform you that this problem transcends such

(01:12:44):
trifling matters as left versus right. A right wing government
is no less susceptible to this bullshit than a left
wing government, or a centrist one, or even a libertarian
or authoritarian one. A libertarian can liberate women while completely
neglecting to liberate men, and authoritarian can persecute men while

(01:13:09):
completely neglecting to persecute women. The entire political spectrum, in
its childish two dimensional rendering, can be and is a
wash with this two tier feminist dogma. That's largely why
I'm so fatigued with the whole thing, and I always

(01:13:31):
have been. While everyone's arguing about left versus right, and
even about liberty versus authority, we all keep getting pushed
down this other dimensional axis that no one is even seeing,
infantalizing women at the expense of men. Yeah, no, that's

(01:13:51):
not left or right or libertarian or authoritarian. Is this
all other axis? And that is what is destroying your civilization.
Whether you are any European country, and whether you are
Russia or China, or Afghanistan or America, but especially if
you are in Europe. I have to wonder if it's

(01:14:13):
a coincidence that femicide became law first in Spain and
then in Italy. It's the same pattern we saw happening
with the political phenomenon we call fascism, that too happened
in Spain and then Italy. It's hard to pin down
what the fuck that shit even means anymore fascism, But

(01:14:36):
we can perhaps build up a picture of it if
we observe what's happening in the modern day. Shall we say,
in a fascist country, the life of someone within the
state is worth more than the life of someone outside
of the state, And in a feminist country, the life
of a woman is worth more than the life of

(01:14:57):
a man. And that is what we're seeing all over
the fucking place. This isn't a recent phenomenon, of course.
Ever since the rise of romantic chivalry, men have been
expected to sacrifice themselves for women, and even before that.
It's it's a rule that tends to push on an
open door, because by and large, men love women kind

(01:15:22):
of too much, if you ask me, way more than
women love men. But the politicization of romantic chivalry is
a relatively recent phenomenon, one that did come to pass
in parallel with communism, the politicization of class envy. It's

(01:15:46):
it's when it's not enough that men voluntarily sacrifice themselves
for women. It's when they are compelled to sacrifice themselves
for women by force, And when even that is not
good enough, we get this shit. When a man kills
a woman, he is treated like a mass murderer. But

(01:16:12):
when a woman kills a man, she is not even
charged with murder. She gets off scot free because of
temporary insanity, because of hormones, because she was afraid, or
because she was understandably unsatisfied with some situation or another,

(01:16:34):
any excuse that can be made, and she doesn't go
to prison anyway, because it's just it's barbaric and in
human to put women in prisons. I mean, all they
did was kill a child. If we imprisoned every woman
who elected to exact the death of a child, we

(01:16:56):
would have to build millions of prisons. So we'll just
have to presume that children are not human beings, and
neither are men. By the way, you can see what
they're doing by citing the statistic that sixty percent of
murdered women are murdered by intimate partners. Men are killed

(01:17:18):
by all kinds of people because men encounter all kinds
of people as they venture into the outside world to
try and hunt and forage to feed their families. Women
don't tend to get killed by randos quite as much
because they don't encounter all that many randos. That's why

(01:17:40):
they are killed so much less frequently, and that's why
what's left over is the only people they do frequently
encounter their intimate partners. And the feminists of the world
look at this and they think, well, this just proves
that the most dangerous person in a woman's life is

(01:18:01):
her intimate partner. And why would her intimate partner kill her?
What reason could a husband or boyfriend possibly have for
killing his wife or girlfriend other than just because she's
a woman. And I'm like, it's relatively common for men
and women to kill their intimate partners. And given that

(01:18:22):
most people are heterosexual, the vast majority of these murders
are going to be man versus women in one direction
or the other. It's not that men kill women more
than women kill men. It's that men get killed more
by more kinds of people and for more reasons. It's

(01:18:43):
not that men kill women because they're women. It's that
people kill their intimate partners, and women tend to be
the intimate partners of men. Is any of this computing people, No, No,
it is not, and it never will. It doesn't matter
how much free and privilege we give to women. Feminists

(01:19:03):
will always look at whatever is killing women the most,
and they will crack down on whatever that thing is.
We could keep every woman in hospital for their entire lives,
and feminists would go, look, one hundred percent of women
are dying in hospital, it must be the hospitals that

(01:19:25):
are killing them, just because they're women, and they'd still
find a way to blame men for it, even if
the hospitals are staffed entirely by women, which they increasingly
are by the way. We could force women to wear
trash bags and force men to chaper on them everywhere

(01:19:46):
they go, and it will still never occur to people
that maybe we're protecting women too much. They'll keep demanding
that we protect women even more. We could put every
every woman in a bubble, and people will still blame
men rather than blaming the insane feminists who are forcing

(01:20:09):
women to live in a bubble, and that, ladies and gentlemen,
is what we are doing at this point. Metaphorically, of course,
women live in bubbles completely separated from the consequences of
their actions. This drives them insane, but all we can

(01:20:30):
do is blame men for their insanity while we continue
to make the bubbles smaller and smaller. Sick of it,
Absolutely fucking sick of it. Stop it, get some help.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
It's actually insanely dangerous for both sexes. And I, like
I tend to use AI now instead of a calculator
when crunching these types of numbers, because AI adds thoughts to,
you know, ideas that I might consider to the number crunching.

(01:21:07):
And so I did that a while back in a
discussion where somebody you know brought up the statistic on
what percentage of female murder victims are are killed by
an intimate partner. And the first thing that Grock pointed
out to me is that the claim is based not

(01:21:28):
on a statistic that counts intimate partner murders, but on
a statistic that counts family violence that ends with murder.
So if the family member is a sibling, a parent,
the child of the victim, and an aunt or uncle, cousin,

(01:21:54):
you know, niece or nephew that lives in the home
with the individual, which there are countries in which extended
families do still all live together, that's counted as well
as the counting of the intimate partner. And then also statistics,

(01:22:16):
the statistic on which the sixty percent number is based
does not actually differentiate between women killed by a male
intimate partner and women killed by a female intimate partner,
and previous calculations I've had it do. Garuk came back
with the answer that less than one tenth of one

(01:22:37):
percent of the world population is responsible for all violent crimes,
and that includes criminal violence around theft, burglary and things
like that, criminal violence around sexual violence, intimate partner violence,

(01:22:59):
random and attacks, mugging, et cetera. So not just that
one thing, less than one tenth of one percent of
the overall population when you put all of those crimes together,
so it's an even smaller percentage, and that's the adult
population or the population that can be charged as adults,
so people over the age of about fifteen. And when

(01:23:23):
you narrow the scope down to family violence and specifically
to murder perpetrated in the context of family violence, it
becomes significantly smaller because that is actually a minority among
types of violent crime. There are significantly more murders that
occur in the scope of burglary, gang rivalries, people trying

(01:23:49):
to attack somebody because of a conflict and a bar,
things like that, and very few murders are actually committed
because the person is the partner of the perpetrator or
because of some related conflict within the family, and it's

(01:24:10):
an an act of family violence. So we were talking
tiny percentage of the population. Meanwhile, statistically worldwide, men are
eighty percent of homicide victims. Right, So when I had

(01:24:32):
go through and account for all of the factors involved
in determining you know, family that this family violence, since
we couldn't narrow it down to partner violence, the crime
that affects eighty or sixty percent of female homicide victims,

(01:24:58):
forty four percent of the victims of that particular crime,
forty four point four percent of the victims of that
particular type of crime are male. So women are a
slight majority or majority fifty like fifty five point six percent,

(01:25:20):
but not an extreme majority. They're not eighty percent of
family homicide victims or even sixty percent of family homicide victims.
And this is again a tiny percentage of the population
of perpetrators of violent crime. So this is how feminists

(01:25:44):
twist their numbers, right, Like Mike said, you know, it's
they're they're ignoring the majority of categories of homicide and
violence in order to narrow the skill to just this
one because it's the only one left that looks like

(01:26:05):
it affects a significant number of women, But in reality,
it's a minority among homicide victims, and within that minority
of homicide victims, feminists are only a bare majority, not

(01:26:29):
like the only people that are affected. And there are
perpetrators that are female, and some of those female perpetrators
kill female partners or female family members. The other interesting
thing about this, you know, you have this idea that

(01:26:52):
violence against specifically women, like, if a woman is the
target of violence, it must be because she's a woman,
and again might kind of killed. That doesn't necessarily mean
that it does not follow. It's a non sequitor to
just make that assumption. So jumping to a conclusion in

(01:27:13):
the context of these types of murders, Many people who
are murdered by a partner are murdered for insurance money.
Many people who are murdered by a partner are murdered
because there's a conflict over custody of the children in
a divorce. Many people who are murdered by a partner

(01:27:36):
are murdered over other financial issues or in a jealous
rage because there was cheating involved, or because the murderer
wants to cheat with impunity and has gotten caught, or
some other form of accountability has occurred that the murderer

(01:27:57):
is trying to dodge and the murderer gets caught. Generally speaking,
the gender of the victim is the least determining factor,
and the greatest determining factor is some conflict or condition

(01:28:18):
or situation that the murderer thinks they can solve by
eliminating the victim, and that's why they attempt to commit
that murder. It has nothing to do with domination. It
has nothing to do with trying to maintain a patriarchy.

(01:28:38):
It has nothing to do with what sex the victim is.
It has everything to do with the factors that humans
kill each other for in any other instance. And in
with regard to violence against women, violence against women, the
problem is so small in the world that they are

(01:29:03):
scrambling for new types of things to define as violence
against women. And now we are hearing terms like online
gender based violence, in which if I'm in an argument
with Queen Fematopia, Princess Fimotopia, you know, princess but heard

(01:29:30):
of the nation of Fimotopia, has that that that you know,
she has things to say and I have things to say,
and we don't like what each other has to say.
If someone in the conversation with us, anyone in the
conversation with us, calls her a bitch or suggests that

(01:29:53):
she's going to get herself injured by making stupid choices
and making herself vulnerable to press, or any such stupid
idiotic you know, this is not violence, right, but categorization
of violence. This is the things that Anita Sarkisian raised
her almost half a million dollars complaining about. They won't count.

(01:30:20):
If somebody tells me that I should get raped so
that I would know what it was like, which somebody
did during the gamer Gate controversy, say to me, oh,
you should get raped so you would know what it's like,
not notwithstanding the fact that I know what it's like,
or the fact that this individual was a feminist and
therefore believed that she had a one and four chance

(01:30:42):
that she was talking to somebody that had been raped.
But yeah, it's violence. Now. Your words are violence. Now
if you say something rude or mean that references violence,
and the person you're talking to is a woman on
the right side of the political fence, the feminist side

(01:31:03):
of the political fence. If we're on the wrong side
of the political fence, if we're supporters of the consumer
revolt during the gam or Gate controversy, if we are
supporters of any conservative cause, any and cap cause, any
libertarian cause, anything in between, we don't count. And you
can threaten to come to our house and beat our asses,

(01:31:25):
and it's not online gender based violence. But if you
call the women that we're arguing with bitches or idiots
or accidents waiting to happen, that's online gender based violence
now right, that's violence. Words that they can shut off,
words that they don't have to see it. They can

(01:31:46):
mute you, they can close the computer, they can leave
the conversation, they can block you. And if if you
say something that they deem scary enough that they feel
their life is in danger, or even if it just
causes them substantial emotional distress. And you're in the United

(01:32:07):
States and they're in the United States, thing have you
arrested for stalking and harassment using an electronic device? But no,
the you and women right now are trying to get
international law passed that will influence national law in various

(01:32:32):
countries to create new criminal statutes to criminalize so called
online gender based violence. So if you say shut the
fuck up, get back in the kitchen, bitch online as
a joke, a woman could treat that the same as

(01:32:55):
if you said, on Wednesday next, I am going to
come to your house with a big knife, break in
through your back door, and come into your bedroom at
night and kill you. Same difference, right, shut the fuck up, bitch,
get back in the kitchen, or horror, Oh, I'm going
to do this specific crime to you on this specific date,

(01:33:18):
at this specific time, with this specific weapon, in this
specific location. Yeah, they won't differentiate. So obviously there is
not enough real world violence against women for them to
deal with, and they have to make ship up like

(01:33:40):
this as a new type of violence, a brand new
thing for them to deal with, because they are running
out of the problem that they had been capitalizing on.
And at the same time, you know, there's a solution
that I can offer them. In terms of violence against women,

(01:34:03):
statistics show that an intimate partner violence, seventy percent of
it is female perpetrated. When it's one way, when only
one partner is hitting, the other partner is not using
violence to retaliate or defend themselves or anything else. It's
just the one partner that's doing the violent behavior to

(01:34:26):
the other partner. Seventy percent of the time, it's a
woman doing that behavior, right, And when the behavior is
two way, that is associated with more frequent violence, more
frequent perpetration, in other words, from women, but not from men,
which indicates that even when the violence is two way,

(01:34:51):
which can range from about half the time to about
two thirds of the time depending on which study you
look at, even when it's two way, it's mostly female
perpetrated or female initiated, and most of the time after
the woman has initiated violence, if the man is violent

(01:35:12):
at all, he is violent in self defense. So in
that situation, when a woman gets hurt, it is because
the violence that the man has engaged in is done
under circumstances that remove his control or reduce his control
over the level of force he is using and the

(01:35:35):
rapidness with which he is using that force. Things like
you push a guy into a corner and start wailing
on him, and he pushes back to get you away
from him. He may push harder than he intended to,
and even if he's just trying to push you away
and run away from you so that he doesn't have
to fight back against you. He may injure you in

(01:35:57):
the process, if you're female, even if you're another dude.
It's just the dudes know this, and they pick their
fights more carefully because of it. So if you really
want to eliminate a significant portion of violence against women,
you can start by teaching women not to hit first.
Don't back a guy into a corner and start wailing

(01:36:19):
on him. Don't punch him in the chest when you're
mad at him. Don't yell and yell and yell and
then eventually start pushing and shoving and hitting after you've
worn him down to his last nerve and he can't
control himself anymore. Don't do those things. Instead, have reasonable,

(01:36:39):
rational conversations. Don't deliberately push a guy's buttons and then
complain when the button is the on button for his
fight or flight syndrome or a system. And maybe if
women learned that, they would not initiate the violence that
comes back on them and the remainder, which is about

(01:37:02):
thirteen percent of the total incidents of domestic violence where
the perpetrator is just the man and about you know,
a minority less than half of the rest of domestic
violence where it's the male initiating. It will be a
lot easier to address and deal with that if you

(01:37:28):
didn't get distracted by trying to treat all of the
other types of violence that are initiated by women as
if they were the fault of the male that she
is targeting. Of course, feminists won't go for that. In fact,
they will call misogyny and pull out that old, worn out, ripped, shredded,

(01:37:53):
stained and faded misogyny card male victim card. Right, Oh
my gosh, you just want to make it okay for
men to beat women. No, I want to make it
not okay for women to beat men. I want it

(01:38:14):
to be just as verboten for women to initiate violence
against a man, because I think that there would be
less violence overall if that were true. If both sexes
faced taboos that would make you embarrassed to strike your partner,

(01:38:36):
if both sexes would face public humiliation and legal consequences
for engaging in violence against family members, that would significantly
reduce the amount of violence overall. That's all I'm saying.

(01:38:57):
Has nothing to do with wanting men to beat women
has nothing to do with not caring about the percentage
the number of murder victims who happen to be female
victims killed by an intimate partner or other family member,

(01:39:18):
and everything to do with pragmatic recognition of what can
we do to reduce violence? What is the nature of
the problem, what are the characteristics of the problem, what
are the contributing factors to the problem, and how can
we reduce the incidents of the problem. And until that

(01:39:40):
type of approach is taken, there is no initiative that's
ever going to happen that's going to accurately and effectively
address the problem, no matter how much somebody proclaims to
care about it, no matter how much somebody claims to

(01:40:00):
love women and want to help them. The only thing
these people are doing is gathering lots of money and
then wasting a portion of it on false solutions and
splitting the rest up among themselves. That's it. So I

(01:40:20):
have very little sympathy for these feminist protesters. I think
that they are clowns who aren't doing jack shit for women.
They hate men. They don't care that there are women
who are suffering, or that there are men who are
being abused and ignored or falsely accused. What they care

(01:40:43):
about is how to line their own damn pockets and
how to use this idea to give their governments greater
control over the men in their countries. That's it. Fuck
those guys. They can go fuck themselves, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
I hear that, huh?

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
So go ahead, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
I'm sorry, I'll just saying amen, But then I thought
I should correct myself and say.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
A women, no, Amen is the correct term, and it
shouldn't be changed. But it's a good joke, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
So let's you guys think about this one. In the comments,
I got a super chow and a rumble rant. I'm
gonna read out really quick, and they're gonna get to
the last story. Albatross gives us five dollars and says
a lot of what you said about female violence stats
can also be said about the trans community. It's more
likely to be purported by other transpot bad breakups, jaded lovers,

(01:41:38):
et cetera. Than actual bigots. Well, it's interesting that the
law is being spoken about as though it is like
a patriarchal problem, but they don't really. The law doesn't
get into specifics about who is, you know, uh, the
perpetrators of the violence. So I don't know how many
lesbians they have in uh an Italy, but it's probably

(01:42:01):
like going, it's probably a big number. They don't want
to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Well, there's some fingles that needs to be considered here,
all right. Pretty much every country in the world that
has any laws governing family violence has a law that
penalizes for perpetration of violence against an intimate or partner,
married partner or not that generally, historically has only targeted

(01:42:32):
male perpetrators of violence against female partners, regardless of the
level of violence female partners might engage in. Society has
always cared all around the world whether or not men
hit their intimate partners, their female intimate partners, but usually
has ignored or laughed at men who have been victims

(01:42:55):
of violence by their intimate partners. Just a point that
needs to be acknowledged in that we're not even doing
anything different now, I mean we.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Are, yeah, but the world is not. Yeah uh and
uh yeah, that's true. So we also got a rumble
rant from nova fan who says feminists, let's make it
a crime for men to offend women what men would
rather socialize with a chatbot instead of being a subservient
to feminism. We must arrest men for negligence. Thank you

(01:43:30):
for that, all right, So let us know what you
guys think about this one of the comments. We're gonna
move on to the last one and uh okay. So
on November twentieth, the Ohio state overwhelmingly passed Senate Bill
one seventy four by a bipartisan vote. So, speaking of
bipartisan votes, but this is like a W vote as

(01:43:52):
opposed to an L vote which happened in Italy of
twenty nine to two, marking a major overhaul of the
state's child custody laws. Sponsored by Democrat Senator Paula Hicks
Hudson of Toledo and Republican Senator Teresa Gavarni of Bowling Green,
the four hundred and twenty two page legislation eliminates outdated
concepts like shared parenting, soul custody, and split custody, replacing

(01:44:16):
them with flexible Parenting plan framework that allocates specific responsibilities
such as education decisions, healthcare, and residency to a designated
parent based solely on the child's best interest the child.
Senator approach aims to modernize family court processes, promote meaningful
involvement from both parents when appropriate, and adopt adapt to

(01:44:37):
diverse family dynamics, including those involving domestic violence or unique circumstances.
The bill now advances to the Ohio House for consideration,
where it could become law if approved and signed by governor.
The passage drew widespread praise from judicial groups like the
Ohio Judicial Conference, the Ohio State Bar Association, and domestic

(01:44:57):
violence advocates such as the Ohio Domestic Violence Network, who
hailed it as a long overdue reform that prioritizes children's
well being and reduces adversarial winner takes all battles and
custody disputes. However, it sparked controversy among some parental rights
organizations and family law critics, who argue the changes could
empower courts, successively prolonged litigation, inflate legal costs for families,

(01:45:22):
and erode parents' fundamental rights by deviating from presumptions of
equal shared parenting supported by politic public opinion. Opponents, including
those testifying and committee hearings, express concerns that the bill
might exacerbate mental health issues. For children or divorce by
incentivizing conflict over cooperative arrangements, though supporters counter that its

(01:45:44):
tailored plans better protect vulnerable kids without rigid defaults.

Speaker 6 (01:45:49):
I yeah, it is a mixed bag, and what I've
been able to gather just from just from looking.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
At it, and I am not going to claim to
have gone through the entire thing, but I've read some
summary and some of the parts of it verbatim and
so on. It's what it's done that's bad is it's
removed the automatic presumption that time with dad is as

(01:46:24):
important as time with mom. Equally shared parenting. The basis
for equally shared parenting is the recognition of the fact
that and children have involved fathers have all kinds of
benefits that they get from from their father's involvement in
their lives, and it's not always understood exactly how that happens,

(01:46:49):
what specific like mechanism is involved, and it can be
anything from big deals to the kids seeing the dad
get up and go to work every day, to little
things like one moment in time when dad and son
or daughter are just playing pitch and catch with a

(01:47:10):
baseball or softball at the backyard and the child gets
frustrated because they have more difficulty catching the ball than
Dad does. And Dad coaches the child on how to
deal with that frustration in a sportsmanlike manner as opposed
to in a childish, wimpy, whiney manor, or an aggressive,

(01:47:32):
angry manner or acquitters manor, and it builds character in
the child in ways that can affect the child's future
stick touitiveness and approach to things like difficult homework assignments
in later schooling, or difficult test taking, difficult assignments on

(01:47:54):
the job when they go to work, difficult relationships with
people that they have to have some degree of association with,
say on the job or as neighbors, and stuff like that.
So a lot of times it gets devalued. Well, all
the all he did was go play baseball with the child.
That's not parenting. Actually, yes, that that is absolutely parenting. Similarly,

(01:48:20):
you know Dad, Dad might sit there and watch TV
with the kids sometimes, but maybe Dad says, we're not
gonna watch I don't know what was on when when
we were kids, that was Ship Captain Planet, we are
going to watch Hogan's Heroes. And because that was on

(01:48:43):
reruns of that we're on when I was a kid,
and and uh, that was that was kind of like
my dad. My dad didn't do the namby Pamby. Uh,
we're going to teach you a lesson with this TV show.
TV shows we've watched stuff like that, like Hogan's Heroes

(01:49:04):
or mash Or or w KRP in Cincinnati. Like I
watched grown up shows when I was a little kid,
I learned to understand grown up humor. Uh. And I
also learned to understand grown up ways of responding to
conflicts and issues. And those TV shows did display real

(01:49:26):
world behaviors and how people experienced wrong consequences are right
right consequences? You know, rewards for different ways of handling things.
And you know, I learned through humor about things like
using my ingenuity to solve problems that seemed impossible to

(01:49:49):
handle and not always expecting everything to go the way
I wanted it to. And sometimes terrible things happen and
there's not jack shit you could do about it. You
have to just tread water until things get better. And
you know that's not non parenting, that's parenting a guy's way.

(01:50:14):
So when the court says, well, it's in the best
interest of the child. If they're going to school for
mom's house every morning, what they may be doing is
taking away the child's opportunity to see maybe how Dad
streamlines the morning routine differently than how Mom streamlines the

(01:50:35):
morning routine and figure out what elements of ingenuity and
prioritization of things each parent is right about or better at,
or is more right for them in terms of and
they miss out on that. The other thing is it

(01:50:58):
gives women the bad thing as it gives women a
tool they could turn around and pretend that the child
is experiencing mental health crisis over having to go back
and forth between mom and dad's house and try to
use that to take the child away from dad. I
didn't see This doesn't mean it's not there, But I

(01:51:19):
didn't see anything in the law addressing attempts at parental
alienation of the other parent as a form of contempt
or any other type of criminal behavior. There didn't seem
to be any consequences if parents tried to limit the
child's time with the other parent or use the courts

(01:51:41):
to limit and lost like making allegations and stuff like that.
And there wasn't anything. I didn't see anything in it.
And like I said, I didn't go through the entire
thing yet, but so far I haven't seen anything in
it that mandates prosecution for process crimes when the process

(01:52:06):
crime is being done specifically to prevent the other side
from having a something to latch onto to to try
to further their goals in a custody battle. So you know,
dad's fighting for for equal custody rights or you know,
any any degree of custody rights, and moms fighting to

(01:52:29):
make sure he doesn't get those custody rights. And she
doesn't share information or she that she's legally obligated to share,
or she lies, she commits perjury in court files, a
false complaint with with police, makes the child lie something
along those lines. Those are all criminal actions that should
be it should be mandatory that those get prosecuted when

(01:52:53):
when she's trying to use them to influence the outcome
of the case. And I didn't see any custody law
needs to have that mandated. Because women use organizations like
the Women's Domestic Violence Shelters and stuff that supported this legislation.

(01:53:16):
They use those organizations to strong arm right now the
courts when they commit those types of crimes. In the
course of trying to influence in the outcome of a
custody battle to keep them from doing anything to hold
the woman accountable legally for committing those crimes. And it works.

(01:53:40):
Like in the seven Years in Hell story, the woman
in that story, the vexatious litigant in that story, committed
process crimes, targeting the victim and targeting his wife, his
second wife, and even targeting other family members, his siblings,

(01:54:01):
some of her family members in order to influence the
outcome of that case. In other cases, and at no
point was she held accountable. The courts didn't prosecute her
for that. No, you know, perjury charges, no charges for
lying to police during an investigation or filing false complaints. Nothing,

(01:54:23):
because artimis house here in Dayton pushed the court to
not do that with the argument that it would be
encouraging violence against women if they didn't allow her to lie. Basically, So, yeah,

(01:54:45):
this is going to be something that the men's rights
move is going to have to push back against. It's
going to be important for people in Ohio to write
to your legislators and send them information from the Father
Involvement Research Shoot. It's fi ra A I think it's association.

(01:55:13):
I'm gonna look really quick what that stands for. Father
involvement research Alliance, not association it is. It's Canadian, but
they have quite a bit of research showing the benefits
of father involvement. That it needs to be driven home

(01:55:35):
to Ohio legislators that both parents are important to a child,
that both parents need to be present and mature in
a child's life. You can't just have the mother take
the child away from the father and say it's in
the child's best interest to not have to go back

(01:55:55):
and forth. It's in the child's best interest that both
parents work together as a team to raise the child
to the best of their ability as a family unit.
And the next best thing is that both parents have
equal opportunity to contribute positively to the child's development. And

(01:56:21):
if you take away the presumption of equally shared parenting rights,
you destroy that presumption of equal opportunity and you're actually
not acting in the best interest of the child, You're
acting in the best interest of women's groups. So that's

(01:56:45):
what they need to know, that's what they need to hear,
that's the letters they need to receive, the calls they
need to get the emails they need to get tweets,
tweet at them, and focus in this instance on Republicans
because Democrats don't give a fuck. I hate to say that,
but it's true. Republicans at least care about facts when

(01:57:12):
it comes to this. They're not gynocentric enough to ignore
the fact that kids need their dads. Their crime is
blaming fathers in this situation. But it's unfair to blame
fathers if the courts are presuming the woman to be
the primary caregiver and the more necessary parent, and presuming

(01:57:36):
it to be in the best interest to the child
that the child spends most of their time with the
mother and the father's time with the child is not
that important. You can't blame the fathers for that because
the mechanisms that you put into place don't allow them
access after that. So it's important that Republicans here that

(01:58:01):
the government should not be interfering in the father's parent
child relationship and then blaming dads and shaming them for
the results of that. So that's your homework. Guys. If
you live in Ohio, and if you live outside of Ohio,

(01:58:24):
you can write to our politicians and just make fun
of our state. For passing this stupid law.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
All right, Mike, do you have any thoughts or do
you think canna?

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
I don't know what the fuck is going on here,
but it all sounds pretty suss. It all sounds open
to interpretation. And whenever anything in family courts is open
to interpretation, it means mother, good, father, bad, especially when
it all comes down to the decision of the judge,

(01:58:57):
who is almost always a feminine simp. I'm looking at
this from the UK, where trial by jury is about
to become a thing of the past thanks to Saint
David Lammy, a functional retard, and no one's talking about
what this means four family cats. What it means is

(01:59:21):
women can get away with absolutely but fuck anything, be
it civil or criminal, because it all comes down to
the whims of the judge, and our judges are died
in the world. Simps to a man, and I do
mean to a man. So permit me to consider Ohio

(01:59:43):
based on what happens in the UK, because this will
happen to you too. The feminist vanguard in any given
US state has invariably already happened in some European state,
probably the UK, like so does it native parent, right,
That just means mother, doesn't it based solely on the

(02:00:07):
child's best interests. That just means give the child to
the mother. That's what it has always meant. Diverse family dynamics. Okay,
the clue there is diverse. That means, I mean diversity
means no men allowed. That's that's what it always meant.

(02:00:29):
Domestic violence or unique circumstances, that just means the mother
feels afraid, so we should give her whatever she wants. Like,
I'm not trying to blackpill anyone. I'm just saying this
sounds like more of the same. It sounds like more
wishy washy. Legally, is that any judge can interpret any

(02:00:52):
way they like, and that means they will adjudicate in
favor of the mother every single time.

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
You are right.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
I I just want to hear words to the effect
of the mother no longer gets to do whatever the
fuck she likes all the time. I just want to
hear words of that effect, because that is the fucking problem.
I'm sick of everyone arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

(02:01:21):
Fucking steer the ship away from the iceberg. Please, well,
I mean we already hit the iceberg long ago. And
the ship is basically underwater at this point, I guess
what I want is some assurance that some men are
allowed on the fucking lifeboats, given that the ship has

(02:01:42):
already hit the fucking iceberg, not that the crew have
been given license to use their own judgment as to
who gets the lifeboats, when that crew has already been
trained to give the lifeboats to the women and the children.
Is this change going to result in some men getting

(02:02:03):
to escape in the lifeboats because of the merits they
have as parents. Have the people in charge of the
lifeboats been sufficiently deprogrammed so as to finally be able
to say, I don't give a shit that you're a woman,
you're fucking insane, and you beat your children. I don't
care if you call me a misogynist. I don't care

(02:02:27):
if you run to the press to browbeat me into
giving women everything and men nothing. I'm not going to
cave in to your psychotic demands. Get to fuck tell
me this is what you're going to do. Stop mincing
your words and just tell me you're going to undo

(02:02:49):
what has been done. Until that happens, I'm going to
assume you'll just keep doing what you've always been doing.
Give it to me star, that's right. Don't give it
to me gay. I'm sick and tired of you giving
it to me. Gay. Give it to me straight. I've
been fucked too many times and my ass.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
I can't blame me for that. To explain what's going
on with the law, based on the Titanic terms that
you mentioned right picture, there are fifty Titanics, fifty separate
Titanics that are all loosely bound to each other through
an agreement that I have all hit the iceberg because

(02:03:38):
of that loose binding and some other factors, and about
half of them, it's trending upwards. Have determined that the
lifeboats have fifty percent male access in terms of like
the lifeboats being being custody of their children, but Ohio

(02:04:05):
hadn't done that. People have been writing to Ohio legislators
to ask Ohio to do that, and their response is
to say, we are changing from the judge being guided
by the best interests of the children in the lifeboats
as to which parent belongs in the lifeboat with the

(02:04:28):
child and having to choose between one or the other,
to judges getting to choose based on the best interest
of the child as to whether or not one or
both parents go in the lifeboat. So does that really
sound dramatically different, because it doesn't to me.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Sorry I was muted right then. Yeah, that's good. Thanks
guys for your thoughts on that. Quite the sausage, all right,
So let us know what you guys think about this
one in the comments. Yeah, I mean, I would have
taken a story out, but they were just they were

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all pretty good. So it's like, just let them all in.
But let us know you guys think about all of
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you guys for coming. We're gonna go now and look
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show just because I got to get up early tomorrow.
So yeah, we look at this article. Men are in trouble,

(02:05:39):
but whose fault is it? And uh, you know, in
light of all of the stuff we cover, usually the
after show is kind of like, let's just say it's
interestingly relevant to what's like what we're referring to because
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the news, and then you look at like the way
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